Talk:Noah's Ark

Historicity

Some scholars have expressed skepticism that the story took place as described in the Bible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.147.106 (talk) 10:02, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

The article already states "There is no scientific evidence for a global flood, and despite many expeditions, no evidence of the ark has been found," with several references following that statement. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:58, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Ron wyatt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:301:7704:2D30:B8ED:78CB:2A4D:D4FF (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

You mean Ron Wyatt, read his article. Doug Weller talk 20:07, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

The USA in the lead

Apparently 60% of less than 5% of the world's population believe in the Ark story (i.e. less than 3%). And that "fact" takes up around a quarter of the lead. No other country is mentioned. That's pure US centrism. It should be removed. HiLo48 (talk) 08:19, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Agree. HiLo48, don't know if you've seen Moses#Legacy? One step further, I think. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:26, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

No. Hadn't seen that before. Extraordinary. American exceptionalism clearly lives on. One of its unwritten features seems to be that religious obsessed Americans don't even look at Talk pages. HiLo48 (talk) 22:11, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

May 11

HOW DO I GET MY PERSONAL PROFILE TO BE LISTED ON WIKIPEDIA

Hi!

I am interested in uploading my personal profile on Wikipedia. Please advise me on how I can get started in achieving such objective? Thank you. Raphosystemtronix (talk) 03:18, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

You don't. This is an encylopedia, not social media. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 03:19, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Raphosystemtronix Wikipedia has a policy that only topics which are wikinotable are included and autobiography is frowned on for reasons described at that link. Notable people who have articles must meet the criteria at WP:NBIO or the article about them may be nominated for deletion. We also have very strict sourcing requirements for biographies of living people. On the other hand, every Wikipedia editor with an account can use their UserPage to tell others here a bit about their intentions and interests. See WP:UPYES. Your userpage could be created if you clicked on the currently red link to your username. More important, though, is to make some contributions to existing articles. Mike Turnbull (talk) 08:25, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Contribution are deleted without history record

Hi everyone,

I want to asked if someone experent too that he \ she wrote a contribution to wiki and it was deleted without any history record?

Like a big bag with wiki contribution. I don't want to said that a manger nor someone strong use is ability but would like to know if someone has the power to delete a contribution with no record?

It had happen to me several time with contribution that have done to the Hebrew wiki. Special wikibook.

Unlike it, when I wrote something at Hebrew wikipedia, that I think at most wiki, might be delete - I do have history record...

Many thanks and apologize if I wouldn't respond,

יוני2023 (talk) 06:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

First of all, this is the English Wikipedia, we don't have any answers about how things work on the Hebrew Wikipedia, but if I understand you correctly it sounds like an edit may have been revision deleted or perhaps supressed. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 07:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Assuming this is about hewiki, where the OP is indefinitely blocked, they appear to have two revision-deleted edits in January and an unknown number of edits to their deleted userpage he:משתמש:יוני2023 (with 5 deleted edits total). I suspect its the latter, because deleted contributions like these don't realy show up anywhere accessible to non-admins (you can get the count of these from xtools, and make a few guesses based upon the page creations reported, but thats about it) Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Possible to edit our published edits?

Isn't there a way to edit an edit we published, especially a new one? Augnablik (talk) 06:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

You can edit the text that you added or edited, in the same way that you made the origimal edit. You can't edit the edit summary . If you feel that the edit summary you left was inadquate, you can make a "null edit" to the article (e.g. add a space somewhefre that it'll have no effect), and leave an edit summary for that, explaining what you've done. Maproom (talk) 07:03, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

So, in other words, I can’t go to my User Contributions and click on the one I want to change — right, @Maproom? Augnablik (talk) 07:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Augnablik Only in the sense that your contributions list will remind you what you did and provide a link to the page/section where you made an edit that might need your attention. Any individual edit summary you see can't be altered. See WP:EDITSUMMARY. Note that one way forward can be to undo your own edit, so in effect you can start again. Mike Turnbull (talk) 08:16, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

I can undo an edit? That’s good news! Wish I’d known before I followed up on @Maproom‘s suggestion of a null edit, which I did — asking whichever senior editor ended up handling my null edit not to do what I’d requested and just let me undo the edit.

Now I ’m wishing for a way to nullify my null edit. Augnablik (talk) 09:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

You can undo an edit (up to a point), you can not undo a WP:ES. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:11, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

😱 Augnablik (talk) 14:37, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Incidentally I am amused at how many edits I see that do nothing but add or remove invisible spaces! —Tamfang (talk) 18:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

ANeed help

I have noticed that one of your article has missed the name of the musician who played with Michael Wadada. Is by any chance you can add the name on that list? Glenbuckarts (talk) 07:09, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

For subjects that do not have a Wikipedia article, those articles will eventually get written some day if they meet the Wikipedia notability guidelines, which are a minimum requirement for the article to exist (otherwise it may get deleted). Also just to let you know, Wikipedia is a volunteer project, and it is written by millions of different people out there ("anyone"), and not just a certain team or small group of people. It's in the name, wiki. You can edit and write articles yourself too! Though I'd read Help:Introduction first to get the hang of things here. — AP 499D25 (talk) 08:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

We have no article on Michael Wadada (presumably yourself), which is why that 'wikilink' appears red, but we have 10 articles that mention you/him. Which one are you referring to?

If we knew, we could look at that article's references, and determine whether one of them justifies adding the 'missing' name, which you have not told us either. Collectively, we volunteer editors are quite good at what we do, but we are not mind readers. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.175.176 (talk) 09:02, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

188.220.175.176 changed the displayed name in the signature to Michael Wadada.[1] Never do that. I'm changing it back to Glenbuckarts. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Script that mass-retargets redirects?

I am looking for a script or gadget or whatever tool that can change the target of a whole bunch of redirects en-masse. Does there exist such a thing?

Today I just finally completed the merging of six major list articles, into one list article. Doing so has garnered hundreds upon hundreds of double-redirects that need to be fixed. And honestly, man, it is going to be so tiresome going through and retargeting each and every one manually. I already spent heaps of effort doing the merging as well as the re-adapting of the table layouts to increase the efficiency of data presentation, keep the page size reasonable, etc.

I know I can just wait and let a bot fix all the double-redirects. But the issue is, if the page were to be split up into differently titled new separate pages (which I've got a discussion open on at the moment), I would now have to go and retarget all those hundreds of different redirects manually, the bot wouldn't automatically edit them as the target page is still valid and not a redirect. So I'm looking for some viable solution here, e.g. some semi-automated mass editing tool similar to Cat-a-lot. — AP 499D25 (talk) 07:35, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

AP 499D25, you could try WP:AWBREQ. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@Qwerfjkl Cool, I may try that!

I have also come up with another method, which is that when the bots do eventually fix all the double redirects automatically, if I split the page the pages like I said above, and change the target of the "parent" of the double redirects, then I go to the bot's contributions, and use my mass-rollback script to revert all those redirect fixes, thus making them double redirects again. After that, when the bot re-runs the double redirect automatic fixes again, all those redirects will be pointing to the desired, split-up page.

Would this work? Is it a good idea? I'll make sure to use a carefully worded edit summary in my reverts of course. — AP 499D25 (talk) 12:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

AP 499D25, that would probably work, it just might get a bit messy. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Twinkle COI-warning?

I don't use twinkle to warn people a lot. I can't find a "Hello, it seems you may have a COI..." warning, is there none? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:40, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, there is. It's {{uw-coi}}. It's down in the list of single warnings below the Level 4 stuff. Joyous! Noise! 13:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Huh. Thanks! How did I miss that? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Special:Export (Wikimedia Foundation 500, Internal Server Error)

For the past 48 hours, whenever I've attempted to use the Export tool, I've got this error.

I've cleared my cache, tried a different device etc. but I'm unable to access it. I've tried searching about but I can't find anyone else having this issue.

Any ideas?

~~~~ Josh (talk) 14:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Jcshy: Did you try to include templates? See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#special:export and phab:T364554. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:42, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

You’re a lifesaver, I have so that answers my question. I’ve been trying to find answers all weekend, I think I’ll save the technical village pump for the future! Josh (talk) 02:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Looks like vandalism or a hoax.

On the article Atlantis Squarepantis, on the plot, the description that I claim vandalism or a hoax is “when he discovers that some Canadians have pushed Encino during the 10 Second Tidy” and Betamax is a “CD player” instead. Can you revert the edit? Who is the user behind this? Can you block the user? —2.100.180.63 (talk) 19:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

IP editor,thank you for reporting, this was fixed at 21:14 on 11 May 2024. The problem edit is here, however the IP editor has not edited since January, so there is no point in blocking them. TSventon (talk) 12:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Uploading a privately taken photo

I am trying to upload into an article a privately taken photograph of the subject but have been unable to do satisfy Wikipedia of its ownership. How can I accomplish this or is it even possible?

Ausmithimpa (talk) 22:34, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

If you personally took the image, you can upload it to Commons(commons.wikimedia.org). New accounts cannot upload images to this Wikipedia directly. If you didn't personally take it, it would be easier if the photographer uploaded it; otherwise it's a bit harder as you would need to show that the image was released for anyone to use for any purpose with attribution. 331dot (talk) 22:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ausmithimpa: what you saw was an automated filter that blocks new users from uploading low-resolution images. You can upload the image directly here: c:Special:UploadWizard. MKFI (talk) 14:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I’ll give that a shot. 73.19.118.252 (talk) 18:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

May 12

Is a picture of breast milk considered adult content?

See title 2607:FEA8:28E1:8800:21B8:717C:4077:C8CC (talk) 00:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Considered adult content for what purpose? Breast milk has several. Depending on context, a picture of breast milk can certainly be seen as unnecessary. WP includes several pictures that can be considered "adult content". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I would suggest reading WP:CENSOR, I think that should awnser whatever your implicit question is. -- D'n'B-t -- 06:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't at all see how an image of a cup of a substance identified as breast milk is "adult content"(perhaps the OP could explain), and even if it were, Wikipedia is not censored. As to whether an image is necessary, that's another issue that depends on context. It's certainly reasonable on the breast milk article. 331dot (talk) 12:42, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

IP user, there are ways to avoid seeing images that may offend you; you can install software/adjust your settings on your end to block them, or you can take steps when using Wikipedia(though those require an account, see WP:NOSEE). 331dot (talk) 12:45, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

And the content of this hypothetical cup can certainly be argued not to be "adult content". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Force collapse navboxes

Is there a script or piece of CSS that will force collapse navboxes on pages I view? So many break page formatting on narrow screens due to the over use of nowrap. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 11:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I suspoect you'd have more luck asking this particular question over at WP:VPT. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 18:25, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

That was my first thought, but I second guessed myself. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 18:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Karelian National Movement

This page spreads false information about me and my organization. After I corrected the information myself, I was prohibited from editing this page. I have two questions: 1. Is Wikipedia responsible for spreading false information? 2. How to correct false information? MiteriPanfilov (talk) 15:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@MiteriPanfilov There is general advice at WP:ASFAQ. I haven't investigated your particular situation. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Please investigate this issue.

I'll give just one example

https://www.severreal.org/a/mozhet-li-kareliya-otdelitsya-ot-rossii-/32235862.html

This is the link on the basis of which the Karta with the article specified in the article is assigned to my organization

Stop the occupation of Karelia

Although the same link indicates the name of the organization Karelian National Movement and Oleinik speaks about this in an interview,

But not Kuznetsov Dmitry!!!

Please remove false information from the page!!! MiteriPanfilov (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

This is a help desk, offering general advice. We don't 'investigate' article content here. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Which court can I go to? I wrote several messages but no one answered me how to correct the false information!! MiteriPanfilov (talk) 16:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

There are no 'courts' on Wikipedia. You have been told to read WP:ASFAQ. On your talk page, you have been given further advice on how to handle this. I strongly suggest you take the time to read the advice you have been given, and then discuss the matter on the article talk page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 16:18, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Editors may want to see the discussion at WP:ANI#user:stop the occupation of karelia and user:MiteriPanfilov unusual edits. Deor (talk) 22:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Question on notability (crossposted from here, just in case)

When did gender/sexuality suddenly become such a notable trait to the point where being a certain gender/sexuality makes you more notable than someone of a different gender/sexuality? Especially if it's not the typical male/female thing you usually get. Like, maybe I don't get it 'cause I'm a straight white dude who's never been attacked for something like that but like big whoop? Why should anyone, regardless of where you stand on the issue, care THAT much over who someone decides to fuck? Like it just seems to me both sides, gender nonconforming types and the intolerant people railing against them need to take a step back and wonder if this is REALLY something to get THAT worked up over. Live your life, fuck whomever you wanna fuck and don't make it other people's problems, simple.

PS SO glad my favorite jerk from my favorite show out now has an article. Americanfreedom (talk) 20:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Your user page says you're taking a long break from Wikipedia, for your sanity. That sounds a good idea. --1.33.56.248 (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

@Americanfreedom Did you have a question about editing Wikipedia....? Qcne (talk) 21:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Middleton family

I may have accidently ruined the top of the page - the line in red. Is it necessary? Please check. 115.70.23.77 (talk) 22:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi!

Sorry for the delay for getting you a response!

Your edits unlinked some words to articles, it has been fixed already :).

Cheers, Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 16:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Video games with the same title, branding, etc.

There are a lot of video games (particularly from the 90s and 2000s) where two video games exist with the same title, branding, cover art, and everything-- but with different developers, on different platforms. A notable example is Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent, a less notable one being Need for Speed: Undercover.

However, there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what should be done when these games are extremely different from one another. This happens most frequently with handheld games, where the versions across systems share practically nothing beyond top-level genre and theme. If a game exists on Game Boy Advance or Nintendo DS as well as home consoles, those two games likely have next to nothing in common.

I'd like to ask for guidance as to when a game should be separated into its own article, and when it should be included as a sub-section within a top-level article. While this may seem like it has a blanket answer, I do not believe it does, and I ask that you read my examples for my explanation of why. I'd appreciate rationale so I can apply these to future articles and edits. If I should not be separating these games into their own articles, I would like advice on how to better organize information about them in existing ones, as existing articles do this in many different ways and almost always end up mixing the information in with the main article body, leaving it hard to research specifically these other versions.

Here are four examples:

Road Rash (Game Boy Color) came out in 2000 and uses the branding and theme of Road Rash (1994 video game) but the content is most similar to Road Rash II. The confusing part here is that it came out in 2000, shares a name with the 1994 game as well as Road Rash (1991 video game) but uses the content of neither. At present, the GBC version is described inline on the Road Rash II page, but little information is given and there is no reference to its relationship with the 1994 game. The 1994 game's article is already covering five other versions that share little with the GBC version, and I am concerned that introducing the GBC version into the mix would make for an overly long article that veers a bit off topic, while creating a nightmare in the Reception section. I believe Road Rash (GBC, 2000) should have its own article.

Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed is a 2000 racing game for PlayStation and Windows. The PS1 and PC versions are wholly different videogames that share a concept and soundtrack but little else. There is also a 2004 Game Boy Advance game by the same name, which is a translation of the PC version to the handheld. It is currently only mentioned in the article's infobox. I believe these three versions of the game should share an article.

However, in stark contrast to Porsche Unleashed, later Need for Speed games exist across multiple handhelds with completely different developers. Need for Speed: ProStreet was available on home consoles as well as Nintendo DS and PlayStation Portable. The home console versions were developed by EA Black Box, while the DS and PSP games were each handed off to separate B-Teams that made completely different games. I am torn on whether these justify their own articles, but they do not make sense structurally within the existing article.

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear is a multiplatform tactical shooter. There are significant differences between the PlayStation version and the others, but they are minor enough for WIkipedia's purposes that the PS1 version can coexist with the Dreamcast, PC and Mac ones. However, there is also a Game Boy Advance port. It is not mentioned in the body of the article at all and is a top-down game with wholly different content. It is a completely different game from the others, and I feel it warrants its own article. Similar conundrums exist for the Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell games on GBA, which are side-scrolling action games.

Please let me know how I should proceed. I am going to begin working on a draft of the Game Boy Color version of Road Rash.

Kaceydotme (talk) 23:48, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Video games is a better place to ask about this: the editors there can give more specialized advice. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 04:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

May 13

Request for Assistance with Account Deletion

Hello, I’m trying to delete my Wikipedia account but haven’t been able to find the necessary steps on the Help pages. Could someone please assist me with this? I’ve checked the Username policy and Help pages, but I couldn’t find any information on account deletion. Any guidance on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Knowledgeseeker1937 (talk) 00:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

There is no means of deleting an account, as legally all edits must be attributable to someone. You may just stop using and abandon your account. A vanishing may also be an option, see WP:VANISH. 331dot (talk) 00:06, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Please don't attempt the option of WP:VANISH, Knowledgeseeker1937. Your contributions to Wikipedia have been so (very, very) minor that making their author vanish would not be worth the time of the person who'd do this. If you'd like to contribute under a different username, feel free to do so. -- Hoary (talk) 01:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Are you recommending sockpuppetry? —Tamfang (talk) 18:19, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

No, Tamfang, I am not. Please see WP:Clean start. -- Hoary (talk) 22:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

You can simply rename your account to a random string of letters and numbers and ask for your talk page to be deleted, and remove all mentions of your username from talk pages throughout Wikipedia. Félix An (talk) 07:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

No, please do not tamper with messages already posted. And don't simply ask other people to do anything, for the reason I've already given. -- Hoary (talk) 07:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

My Page - Karamjeet K Dhillon

Hi a company has been working on my wiki page for best part of a year. I know the page exists because I asked an independent person to verify credentials and they couldn't get into it because it had password protection. How do I get a status update of a page? Or credentials so I can launch my own page. The company keep telling me that you are taking your time and recently needed to verify one more link and that you are ready to publish. A year seems a long time 142.114.138.115 (talk) 08:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm hoping that this company isn't scamming you(see WP:SCAM).

I cannot find a draft or article by the title "Karamjeet K Dhillon"(with or without the K). Can you link to it?

The company editors working for you need to have disclosed their paid status, that's a Terms of Use requirement(see WP:PAID). 331dot (talk) 08:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

@331dot: A draft named Draft:Karamjeet K Dhillon was deleted in January. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. That draft was created by a sock puppet of a known paid editing ring that fails to disclose their status. IP user, I'm afraid that you've been scammed. 331dot (talk) 08:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

As an adminstrator, I can view the deleted Draft:Karamjeet K Dhillon. It was a total piece of crap that had no hope of being accepted into this encyclopedia. To be frank, if you paid for this, you got conned. Demand your money back immediately or kiss your money goodbye. A large majority of paid Wikipedia services are liars and thieves. It is up to you to carry out due diligence. Cullen328 (talk) 09:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

There's no such thing as password protecting an article on Wikipedia so I think that your "independent person" might not have been honest with you either. -- D'n'B-t -- 18:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm almost wondering if we need a template to use here like the ones we use during fundraising season, as this seems to be a recurring subject here. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 19:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

How to reopen closed AfD

This might be the wrong place to go to ask an adminstrative help question. I closed an AfD as keep and have been asked to reopen it. In 16 years as an admin, I've never previously been convinced to reopen one. However, almost all of the commenters on the AfD (which I closed on May 7) have turned out to be socks. It seems appropriate to reopen the AfD as requested. What is the proper procedure for that? I have hunted. Apparently I'm blind because I can't find it. I do not want to blunder in and guess what's the right way. Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 18:28, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

You can just revert your closure, strike comments of socks and relist it for further 7 days. Ruslik_Zero 19:15, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure it's as simple as that before mucking about. Much appreciated. Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 20:44, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

How to add suggested languages

When I go to the top of the page and try to go to the same page on another Wikipedia, the only "suggested langauges" I get are Croatian and Italian. How do I add or remove those languages? I don't understand how to use the "add languages" button. When an article has pages in Bosnian or Serbian or Slovenian or even German or French I have to scroll all the way down the list to see them. Nobody I know even speaks Italian! Can I switch to the old language list? It was a lot more obvious and quicker. 89.172.73.191 (talk) 19:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

IP editor, if you want to restore the old appearance of Wikipedia as an IP editor, see Wikipedia:Vector 2022#Without an account. TSventon (talk) 19:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, this new design is so broken 89.172.73.191 (talk) 19:38, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

May 14

Help to resolve a dispute

There is a dispute at Transgender flag. My first thought was to seek an administrator but have since explored the dispute resolution mechanisms.

The minimal discussion on the talk page hasn't been productive because one editor isn't receptive. I have been unable to post a "Request dispute resolution" for some technical reason.

I need help. I ca supply background on request. Humpster (talk) 03:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I think just report the user to WP:AN/I or WP:AN/3 they are warring and are not here to build an encyclopedia but to push their agenda. NZFC^(talk) 04:03, 21 June 2018 (UTC)