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April 21

Template link colors

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Can someone change these template link colors so that they are readable.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:39, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

forgot template: {{Coinage (United States coin)}}--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

 Done If you wish to change the link colors (currently #fff or white), just change the html notation inside the <span style="color:#fff"> in the respective links. For example, if you want to change the link color of [[Dime (United States coin)|<span style="color:#fff">Dime (10¢)</span>]] to orange just change #fff to #f80.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 01:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

N Not working correctly. When I am on a page with the template the white row header text is not turning black.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's the price you have to pay for custom link colors. Besides, if it turns black it will again become invisible against the dark blue background. See Wikipedia:Link color for more info.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 07:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, some of the links are redirects (like US$ in the title bar) that wouldn't turn black anyway. This is part of the reason why the Navbox documentation recommends you don't make custom styles. If you absolutely have to, use lighter background colors so you can use the default link colors. — Bility (talk) 07:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I fixed the redirects and removed |titlestyle = background:#003366;color:#ffcc00; |groupstyle = background:#003366;color:#ffcc00; , but it did not work and made the wikilink colors almost illegible.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Just needed to remove the spans coloring the links as well. — Bility (talk) 16:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thx.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:48, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Customizing the link colors in that manner won't work for those of use who have custom link colors. There are a lot of folks using User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:33, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Mulberry Tea

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How do I get Mulberry Tea to go under the letter M in the list of Teas by letter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattun0211 (talk • contribs) 02:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Which article are you trying to add Mulberry Tea to? I see no List of Teas at Wikipedia... --Jayron32 03:07, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I guess you are thinking of a category and not a list. See Help:Category#Sort order. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I think the answer you are looking for is to remove the |* from [[Category:Tea|*]] in Mulberry tea. —teb728 t c 07:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed it. Like the others said above you can either use [[Category:Tea]] (since it would have sorted itself alphabetically by default) or [[Category:Tea|Mulberry tea]], either way it shouldn't be [[Category:Tea|*]] which is used only for items that should not be alphabetized along with the others (like the main article for Tea). --Obsidi♠n^Soul 07:42, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Main Page not updating

Hi there, I don't know why my main page does'nt update each time I click my link back to wikipedia. I t has events dating back over a month ago. It used to chage every day but now it does not so I can't automatically see the news of the day. Am I doing something wrong?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.215.24.24 (talk) 12:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Bypass your cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:21, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Categories loop

Is it acceptible for Category A to be a subcategory for Category B and vice versa? See United States Mint and Directors of the United States Mint. Really makes it look wierd when you expand things in the categories.Naraht (talk) 16:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Fixed; looks like somebody misunderstood the impact of adding a category link to a category.

btw I don't know if in general this creates a loop problem; this particular case was illogical. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:53, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Feedback requested

I'm currently drafting a new user warning template on my sandbox. It's basically a good faith notice for people who are likely to have violated WP:SOCK out of ignorance, not malice, so newcomers who resort to sock puppetry without knowing how much it is opposed have a chance to stop before being dragged into the investigation process which isn't newbie-friendly at all. I'd appreciate it if you'd help me by improving the wording/content, adding some template magic and, of course, by providing comments on the overall feasibility of such template. All help is welcome. Zakhalesh (talk) 17:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

The idea is very good, indeed. Well, I'm not sure how it should be improved now, looks good already. It doesn't need to be very long, it just should include the main points and links community standards, WP:SOCK and stuff, which it already seems to do. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 17:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Feel free to edit it though, especially to add functionality present in other uw-templates. Zakhalesh (talk) 18:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

IM HERE!! Feedback ^☎ 18:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Good Heavens, I thought you'd never come! Zakhalesh (talk) 18:46, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Lawl. And yeah, a very good idea Zakhalesh. I had a recent experience with a new user who was tarred and feathered for mistakenly creating a new account instead of going to WP:CHU after being told that she needed to change her username for COI reasons (it was eventually sorted out). Sockpuppets are ruthlessly hunted down, despite not being stressed enough as forbidden to new users.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 05:43, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I know I'm prone to excessive self-criticism but I never expected someone to call this idea "very good". Thanks! Zakhalesh (talk) 06:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all the comments! There's now another discussion on WT:UTM#AGF-Sock, hopefully leading to this template being made official. Zakhalesh (talk) 06:47, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Issues When it's Your Own Content on Another Website

Hi there,

I am a first time contributor and have been assigned as part of my job to create a Wikipedia page for whom I'm working for, Mary Evelyn Tucker and John Grim. They both are referenced in several Wikipedia pages but do not have a page that is solely theirs. They each have a biography in which they've written that appears on their website, and I have been advised to copy and paste it for their Wikipedia page as the primary content.

The article has since been flagged and deleted because the 'robots' found the exact written content on their website. With the authors permission and consent to create a Wikipedia page for them, how do I - acting as the author of their page- get around the copyright issue? Do I, or do they, have to create an entirely new biography solely for Wikipedia to avoid the copyright issues even thought they are the owners and creators of the content that was found on an external webpage?

Please advise how to move forward in order to get a Wikipedia page up as soon as possible for them both.

Thank you in advance for your response and attention to this matter.

Sincerely, WM — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pnorthcutt (talk • contribs) 20:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Even if your employers released their autobiographies under a compatible license, we likely wouldn't be able to use them due to conflict of interest concerns and because they are self-published and primary sources. You personally have a conflict of interest (with this website) regardless of whether you copy or write an original biography for your employers. — Bility (talk) 20:16, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit conflict]Instructions on what to in these circumstance have already been provided on your talk page, if your bosses are willing to release their copyrights; but the text as written is not very encyclopedic and may not be suitable for use here anyway. I will also point out that you've also been cautioned that in a circumstance such as this where a severe conflict of interest appears, you are very strongly advised not to create articles such as these. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:18, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Two things, entirely unrelated, but which will answer both the question you have now, and one you are bound to have concerning problems that are sure to come your way.

1. See WP:IOWN for information on donating previously published materials to Wikipedia; it is possible but it requires the owners of the copyright contacting the appropriate people at Wikipedia to expressly re-release the text under a new license.
2. Completely unrelated to the question, but sure to run you into serious trouble, is that Wikipedia does not work like social networking sites (like Facebook and Myspace and Linkedin) nor, indeed, much like any other site in the world. First of all, Wikipedia articles are supposed to be written from a certain perspective, known as the "neutral point of view", see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. Text written by someone, for publishing on their own website, is plainly not neutral, and so is likely wholly inappropriate for content of a Wikipedia article. Secondly, Wikipedia is not a complete free-for-all regarding the subjects which are appropriate for articles. Wikipedia requires all articles to be verifiable, see Wikipedia:Verifiability, and people are not necessarily reliable sources for information about themselves (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources), so Wikipedia requires that all information should be referencable to an independent reliable source, and text written by the subject themselves, for publishing on their own website, is simply not independent. If very little information has been independently published about the subject, then the subject simply doesn't merit a Wikipedia article. Thirdly, once published, an article does not belong to the person who writes it, or to the subject. See Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. So, unlike your own website, which you have the right to maintain whatever text you want, at Wikipedia someone can come along and alter the text after you, and so long as their contributions meet all of Wikipedia's core policies, you can't stop them. Lets say a newspaper has published some unflattering information about your clients. You can't keep someone else from citing those newspaper articles and publishing it in the article. Finally, being paid money by the clients in question, you have a conflict-of-interest, in that your interest, which is to promote your clients, is in conflict with Wikipedia's interest, which is to write an encyclopedia. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest

So, yes, feel free to go through the proper procedure to donate pre-published text to Wikipedia. You are perfectly fine in trying to do so. Expect that to be your smallest problem, however, in getting the information you want to be published here. --Jayron32 20:27, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I am afraid you have been given a job which it is probably literally impossible for you to perform, because the very fact that it is your job makes it almost impossible for you to carry it out within Wikipedia's rules. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 23:46, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Dear sir.

Dear sir.

I am a new user of your this amazing web site my name is Faisal Jan I am living in Pakistan in which Karachi city I want to say to you I see this web site is different languages but my native language is URDU because I am Pakistani and I want to say to you kindly do a more facility for reading your web news for Pakistani peoples in URDU language. Thanking you You’re truly Faisal jan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shah32 (talk • contribs) 22:06, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, there is a Wikipedia in Urdu, if that's what you mean. DARTH SIDIOUS 2 ^(Contact) 22:13, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

If, however, you wanted a translation of pages on the English Wikipedia, I'm afraid that this is not possible. -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 23:04, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually you could get a crude machine translation from Google translate. And if an article in English Wikipedia has اردو in the sidebar, you could click on it to get a corresponding article in Urdu Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 23:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Clickable Facebook icons on your pages, so my Facebook friends can click on the heading and read the Wikipedia page.

Hey folks, it will only give you more income if Wikipedia users can share a page with friends. Lots of other websites allow users to share by clicking the Facebook icon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.139.68.41 (talk) 22:20, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Sharebox is a script that reorders your toolbox. It adds new buttons that make it easier to mail, print or share an article on Facebook or another linksharing service. You must have an account to add Sharebox to the sidebar. See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for more information. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:26, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

"CSPWC's Royal Collection Project" deleted.

Re: CSPWC's Royal Collection Project For those who made helpful edits, thank you very much.

I tried logging on to Wikipedia yesterday, several times. Each time a page informed me they were having hardware issues, thus I could not go forward with any additional changes.

The entry was deleted. Today I added more references and links (but could only link back to my "user page", thus did not help I think). I am hoping to resolve the issues.

The Canadian society of painters in watercolour approved the text and it was also cleared by the staff of the Royal Library at Windsor Castle as being factual in tone and content and that is why they cross referenced the information to their inventory numbers.

Still new to Wikipedia, so help in getting this page up again is much appreciated. Artisforme (talk) 22:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Someone userfied CSPWC's Royal Collection Project to User:Artisforme/CSPWC's Royal Collection Project because they thought it was not ready for article space. —teb728 t c 23:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC) I wonder if the information might be better merged as a section of Canadian Society of Painters in Water Colour. —teb728 t c 23:36, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

To be sure you understand, although the article may be about the Canadian Society of Painters in Water Colour, it is not subject to their approval or that of the staff of the Royal Library at Windsor Castle. —teb728 t c 23:44, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, the OP may want to read Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. Once it has been submitted to Wikipedia, it will be edited in very unapproved ways, and the Society has absolutely no control over that. Indeed, given that the Society (and likely Artisforme from the description of the relationship) has a clear conflict of interest (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest), they shouldn't be creating text or editing text about it at all... --Jayron32 23:53, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Adding a Canadian Poet to the list.

Hi, I've been trying to add a local poet from my town of Port Elgin, Ontario Canada but it keeps removing it. Jennifer Frankum and her 3 poety books are popular in the Grey Bruce area yet every time I add her name and info to the list of Canadian Writers its deleted 20 minutes later. I was wondering how I would be able to add her name and poety books to the list without them being removed moments later.

Thanks, Mekieo Sahowna Mekieo Sahowna (talk) 23:57, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I see you are referring to the List of Canadian writers. All the writers on this list have wikipedia articles, and as Jennifer Frankum does not have an article on wikipedia your additions were removed. If you click on "view history" next to the edit button you can see that this was done by two different editors for this reason. Therefore, your solution would lie in creating an article about her! For help in doing so please see Wikipedia:Your first article. Bear in mind that this is an encyclopedia and we therefore cannnot have articles about everything and everyone, and only topics considered notable are included. Please read WP:GNG for our general notability guidelines and WP:AUTHOR for some more specific criteria for authors; if either of these are met, then we can probably have an article about Jennifer Frankum. Has there been coverage about her in books or newspapers? Searching Google News and Google Books can usually be quite helpful. doomgaze (talk) 00:17, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

April 22

Template coding

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 – – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 04:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I have two questions.

1. In the template {{gl-DONE}}, what does the line {{ #if: {{{unfree|}}} | * '''[[Wikipedia:Fair use|Fair use file]]:''' [[:File:{{{unfree}}}]]|}} mean? This template is used over at the Graphic Lab Photography Workshop, but I've never seen any "fair use" comment appear.
2. I absolutely cannot find any documentation on writing templates here. I'm not a programmer, but I thought it'd be fun to try to figure out how to tweak a template's code in my sandbox. Isn't "#if:" called a meta-something? Where is there documentation that explains the basics of writing templates on Wikipedia? Finally, I would eventually like to request an advanced programmer to make the template test do exactly what I want. Where would I put in that sort of request?

Thanks – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 02:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah, the first question is answered easily: it's a parameter, but unused. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 02:20, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Help:Template has information to get started as well as links to more complicated stuff. #if is a parser function from the ParserFunctions extension. I'll make your template however you want so you can see what it looks like, just tell me what you're looking for on my talk page. — Bility (talk) 02:44, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 04:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Cedella

How can I add a cedella (French) to the word Francois? Jacobisq (talk) 03:55, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

You can access numerous characters like this by going to the drop down menu below the save page button when you are in edit mode; ç is in the Latin menu. If you had typed Francois into the search field it would have taken you right to François. And of course we have an article on the cedilla, where the ç is displayed. You can also use the html code ç to produce the character. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

And just in case you're on a Mac, the shortcut key for ç is option-c. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 04:32, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and it's spelled cedilla, btw. : ) – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 04:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks - have sorted article text. How can I best add a cedilla to article title, Francois Perrier (psychoanalyst)? Jacobisq (talk) 04:07, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Done. The "Move" button is a drop-down to the right of the "Watch" button. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:14, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Public domain unfree image icon?

Do we have a public domain icon that could be used in place of an unfree image? For example, in order to get an unfree image to appear in the gallery at the Photography workshop Top 4, I had to add a PD image—in this case, a black X SVG file. Would there be a more appropriate image that I could use instead? – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 05:16, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

You could make one and upload it... --Jayron32 05:24, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I suppose, but I'm not familiar with Inkscape and I don't have Illustrator or any other vector program. After I posted this question, though, I did head over to the Illustration request area. I figure before I make a request for someone (probably a better artist than I, anyway), I would just see what people here have to say. But yes, a suggestion I will follow through on if I find nothing else! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 05:26, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

There are these, I guess:

And stuff here: Commons:Category:Copyright tag related images and logos --Obsidi♠n^Soul 06:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's perfect, thank you! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 06:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. It's an svg file, btw, and under GNU General Public License. No need to request a larger version from the graphic lab. It will scale perfectly to any size you want.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 06:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I need to clarify, I think : ) The image in question is non-free and must only be listed as a link (Black Mask3501.jpg). But in order for the {{gl-PENDING}} template to even appear in the gallery, there must be some image to show, hence my question for looking for a copyright/non-free symbol. So the © image is to show that the actual image that needs work done cannot be legally shown outside of any fair-use jurisdiction. So it's not the © that needs work done on it, it's the linked image directly above the instructions. Anyway, I hope I made this a little more clear in the instructions on the Top 4 page. – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 07:06, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Yep, got that now. Sorry for the confusion, heh. Sadly, I am not very good at InkScape, so can't help with that one image. :[ --Obsidi♠n^Soul 12:06, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

edit vs. move page

I have a page draft on my userpage User:Spu2011 that I'd like to move as a major edit to the Familial DNA section of the DNA Profiling page. I'm confused though- if this is an edit will the move accomplish what I want as I'm not creating a new page for familial DNA alone. I believe I should not just wipe the current section out and cut-and-paste in. Thanks. Spu2011 (talk) 14:37, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

You cannot "move" your draft into the existing article section - Wikipedia moves don't work like that. You will have to merge/edit your draft content into the existing section. – ukexpat (talk) 14:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict)First of all, what sources did you use for that prose? As it stands now, it would be counted as original research and wouldn't stand a chance of surviving. You need to include references in what you wrote in order for it to comply with the guidelines for inclusion.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 14:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Also, those sources would need to be reliable and independent. -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 22:09, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

getting to user page

This is my first time creating an article. I have set up a user name/user page but when I click on my name at the top of wikipedia page it takes me to a page that says NetAssistant at freeze.com. I'm assuming that my user page cannot be found. I have read all of the guidelines, etc. and I am ready to begin, I just can't get to my user page. Help! GBGina browning (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you created the draft yet? At the moment, your contributions only show your edit to this page. If not, click on this link -- User:Gina browning/Sandbox -- and edit away. – ukexpat (talk) 16:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I also put a link to it on your user page. – ukexpat (talk) 16:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

A quick check with Google tells me that NetAssistant is a spyware/adware program. It may be mangling your Wikipedia pages for you before you see them. You'd better get hold of some anti-virus software, or ask at the Computing reference desk for help. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:42, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

manuals

i am trying to work on rebuilding a chainsaw classic 200 homelite where can i find manuals showing all about saws —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.49.7.173 (talk) 16:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 – ukexpat (talk) 17:01, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Afd Soxman

Can someone help me with this AFD? I think I missed a step somewhere. Thank you in advance.--Endlessdan (talk) 16:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

You missed the step of transcluding the Afd on the log page. I fixed it for you. FYI Twinkle is a useful tool that semi-automates the process. – ukexpat (talk) 17:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I also notified the article's creator by substituting the {{AfD-notice}} template. – ukexpat (talk) 17:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again. --Endlessdan (talk) 17:27, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

edits dont show up

so how to add a section like the one I am currently editing without editing the larger level section and pasting in == something new ===? Seems like collisions might occur when editing the larger entry in order to add a sub entry.

So yesterday I edited a political page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Frist that at one time had been protected but doesn't appear to be now. My edits do not show up on any computer that I have not previously logged into wikipedia. If I log in and log out the edits remain visible, but when I move to a new computer I can't see my edits. I assume this is some sort of approval process? The edits do show up in edit mode even if I am not logged in. Not sure how I can tell if the page is protected or if my edits are pending approval?

Thanks! DavesPlanet (talk) 17:46, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Odd, it works fine for me. I presume you are talking about this section? doomgaze (talk) 17:52, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

yup, that's the one, if I move to a computer or browser that I have never previously logged into then that section is not available. Interesting... DavesPlanet (talk) 17:54, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

not a caching problem, and I've just moved to yet another computer that I've never logged into wikipedia from and my edit is without a doubt not there. If I log in then log out the edit remains visible, if I delete every wikipedia cookie that exists in my machine the edit will remain visible. It is only invisible on machines that wikipedia has never identified with my (like the one I am currently editing this on). 74.122.138.2 (talk) 18:12, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

well, that is interesting, I followed your link to the section without logging in and it now displays and I am not able to make it disappear again on this latest machine. I'm betting if you find a machine or browser that has never logged into wikipedia you will not see the section by default but will see it once you click directly to it. 74.122.138.2 (talk) 18:15, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Are all the computers you are trying it on using the same internet connection? Possibly with a shared cache along the pipeline (in the form of a caching router, or a firewall, or ISP caching server)?

Also, BTW - you can add a new section at the end of an article, by manually adding '&section=new' on the end of the edit url, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sausage&action=edit&section=new (please don't save that though; I had to mention a 'real' article).

That isn't very useful, as you'd usually want to add a section in the middle. The only 'solution' I know of, for that - when I deal with a busy page - is to firstly create a level 2 section == New Bit == and then, within that, create level 3 headings === Subsection one === and === Subsection two === etc - thus, each of the L3 'subsections' gets its own edit link, and multiple people can work away.  Chzz  ►  23:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

What the hell you are Mr. Wikipedia

When ever some one writes about some Muslim, especialy from Pakistan why you people have lot of objections on it, recently I was viewing a wiki page about Mr. Moin Akhtar (Moin_Akhter) the great artist of sub-continent(Pakistan & India), and their you people have lot of objections at the top of page like "this article may be written from a fan's point of view, rather than a neutral point of view", when this is a open portal where a lot of information about many personalities from all around the world is already published, then why you people have problem with Pakistanis, do you mean that we Pakistanis should not use Wikipedia?????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.36.109.221 (talk) 19:41, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Articles which are not written from a neutral point of view must be rewritten to be more neutral and encyclopedic, regardless of the subject's country of origin or religion. Anything that is promotional is removed, doesn't matter if it's about a cause, a product, a company, a celebrity, a politician, an event, etc. Everything has to be completely neutral. This is simply one of Wikipedia:Core content policies and is applied to all articles without bias. It's the rules we all have to follow.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 12:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia has its own set of rules and standards, which are applied to all articles regardless of whom or what the article was about. All articles must have a neutral point of view and must not contain any opinions like stating someone as the greatest in certain aspects. E Wing (talk) 19:51, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

You should notice two things. First, the article, which is rather lengthy, has only two references. That's not that many and should be improved to verify the information in the article. Second, the category All articles with a promotional tone includes over 12,000 more articles and not all of them deal with Pakistan and India. Dismas|^(talk) 20:12, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

The lengthy unreferenced text has been removed as it was a copyvio. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

How to resolve image collision?

Resolved

The image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fallon.jpg was originally created in 2006 in an article about sailboat racing. A file with the same name was added in December 2010 to illustrate an article on horse racing, but since it overwrote the original image, the sailing article appears to have been vandalized. I have no clue how to disentangle the two articles. Is there a way to rename just the latest version of the image so that the earlier version is uncovered for the original article? Tartoni (talk) 23:00, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Fallon.jpg

Fallon.jpg

Fallon-yacht-racing.jpg

Done - thanks to help from Stwalkerster (talk · contribs). The boat is now File:Fallon-yacht-racing.jpg, and the horse remains under File:Fallon.jpg. The article Team racing has been fixed as well [1]. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  23:20, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

April 23

What do I need to do to get a pic that is compliant

Hello, I just created an article for the Hugh Lawson White Mansion. I am somewhat familiar with the occupants of this historic home. (Knew them years ago...but to the extent where, if I e-mailed them, I believe they would be agreeable to supplying a picture for the article.) So, assuming she writes back, and I can get her to e-mail me a picture she took from her phone of whatever, what exactly do I need to do to make sure the copyright stuff is all good? Quinn ^{❀ BEAUTIFUL DAY} 01:02, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Probably the best is, if someone from the organization (using their email account) could email the form in WP:CONSENT - assuming they'll agree to the release there. Once you know they've sent such an email, you could upload it yourself at commons, and put {{otrs pending}} in the 'permission' box (which is noted on the form when uploading) - then you can use it immediately.

Later, the permission will be checked and linked in to the file - assuming the permission is correctly sent.  Chzz  ►  01:06, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

You might find this essay to be helpful. Dismas|^(talk) 01:07, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Rate this page

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I just saw "rate this page" at the end of New Chronology (Fomenko). I haven't seen that before. Why isn't it on all articles? Is there a way to add it? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

More information can be found on the links at Category:Article Feedback Pilot. GB fan (talk) 02:37, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

There is documentation at mw:Article feedback and mw:Article feedback/Public Policy Pilot. Intelligentsium 02:38, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 02:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

We have an Article Feedback Tool that is in a pilot deployment as of September 22, 2010. Only a few articles have the feedback tool— they are in the hidden Category:Article Feedback Pilot. You can ask more questions at the discussion page for the Article Feedback Tool workgroup. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:12, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 17:35, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Preview function

Early on, while I was editing my article in the "Sandbox", I could click on the "Preview" button and see how my formatting would appear in the final published Wikipedia article. Now nothing happens. It simply shows me the text I typed. How do I get it to show me the Preview? CartoonEtc (talk) 04:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Looking at this version from the Sandbox history, I see that you deleted only part of the sandbox heading text. You left behind the marker for the start of an HTML comment. This would have made your text disappear from the "Preview". -- John of Reading (talk) 07:08, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Submit for Review

I have navigated through the entire Article Wizard and I do not see any way to submit my article for review and/or approval by the Wikipedia editorial staff. Am I overlooking something really obvious? Thanks! CartoonEtc (talk) 04:47, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. There is no Wikipedia editorial staff. You are Wikipedia editorial staff. So am I. More experienced editors than you will take a look at the article you have drafted, however, if you ask for help at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. --Jayron32 04:49, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Very helpful. Thanks! CartoonEtc (talk) 05:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

If you have already written a draft in your userspace, simply edit the page and put {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} at the top of the draft. Save it. If successful it should show a big yellow box saying 'Review Pending' with further instructions. This will submit your article to the Articles for Creation review where more experienced editors can look over your draft and pinpoint problems. Your submission will be declined if it fails to meet all policies, otherwise it will be moved by the reviewer to mainspace. It is very important to listen to the recommendations of the reviewers. If a reviewer declines the submission due to some fixable issues, you may fix them then resubmit in the same way.--Obsidi♠n^Soul 11:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikibreak

I'm going on a WikiBreak for a few days soon, and I can't get Internet access where I'm going. I'm worried about what my Watchlist will look like without me looking through the changes. Rcsprinter (talk)10:53, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

It makes no difference if you look at your watchlist or not, it will still cover the same time period that you have set on you page (1/2/6/12 hours, 1, 3 or 7 days). If you only have a short period set you may want to temporary set it for example to 7 days to see anything of interest then set it back to your prefered time when you get back. MilborneOne (talk) 11:19, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

No, no, I mean all the pages will be edited and I won't be there to check them. Rcsprinter (talk) 12:01, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

You have a number of options,(1) dont go on holiday, (2) buy a gizmo that gives you internet access via wireless or a sattelite, (3) just leave it to others to keep an eye on everything, most articles have more than one person watching them, you can still review the changes when you get back. MilborneOne (talk) 12:15, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Are there any articles where you are particularly concerned about potential vandalism, POV-pushing or similar? I would be happy to keep an eye on them. doomgaze (talk) 12:20, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia nor the articles on your watchlist will fall apart without you. Your comments make it sound like you are addicted to Wikipedia, maybe you need some help. 67.162.249.232 (talk) 12:39, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I just set my watchlist for 7 days. Even though someone edited an article I am watching, chances are vandalism is already taken care of by someone else; which saves me a lot of work. I have 913 articles on my watchlist. So far, even though I have been away for as long as 7 days, nothing drastic has happened in years. I also am keeping track of my 200 DYK articles (which are fairly important to me) - I see none for you. Take a break - everything will be alright. Here is another secret - don't tell anybody you are going on a Wikibreak and they will always think you are watching, so probably will not try to do any shenanigans. Keep in mind all public libraries have computers, McDonalds and most hotels/motels have WiFi. If none of this helps - see Dr. Phil.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

913 pages?? Maybe you need to see Dr. Phil. :-) I just went on vacation (not "on holiday" - see WP:BRITISHQUAINT) for a week and didn't access the Internet. Sure enough, Wikipedia fell apart while I was gone. Fortunately, giving my incredible powers (see WP:OMNIPOTENT), I was able to resurrect it AND cast a spell on everyone so no one even noticed the temporary implosion.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:53, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

913? That's it? Mines at 4457, and I cull it down to under 1000 like once a year. I tried to look at it and ended up crashing my browser. Maybe its time to pare it down a bit, n'est ce pas? --Jayron32 03:13, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Isn't there the possibility to set up a RSS web feed and track it with any only feed reader services? I mean everybody can set up a feed reader (such mediawiki gives already the possibility to, look in the preferences) and post the url in the (online) feed reader our choice tracking this for some days... mabdul 02:10, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Conversion template

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I am looking for the "template" that will convert square meters to square feet.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:06, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

{{convert}} ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:11, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Stumped! I see square feet to square meters, however do NOT see square meters to square feet. Can you provide exact template? Example: what is 8.5 square meters as square feet? --Doug Coldwell ^talk 13:31, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

If you look in the full list of supported coversions, sq feet and sq meters are there. GB fan (talk) 13:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

8.5 square metres (91 sq ft) {{convert|8.5|m2|sqft}} GB fan (talk) 13:58, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.--Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:06, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

How can I delete my account?

Hello,

how can i delete my account? my login is BenjaminBelgium

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by BenjaminBelgium (talk • contribs) 14:31, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Accounts can't be deleted; the Wikipedia software continues to attribute every edit to a user, even after that user has stopped using Wikipedia. If you want to stop using Wikipedia, you don't need to delete your account; just log off. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:37, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Right to vanish. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Mobile site

How can I make the mobile page be the default when I come to wikipedia from google? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djstl1926 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Your phone or other mobile device should automatically be redirected to the mobile site. Are you saying that this is not happening? Dismas|^(talk) 23:17, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

If you go to Wikipedia:Enable mobile version on your mobile device and click on the link there, you will re-enable the mobile version. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 23:23, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Updating templates in archives

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 – – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 00:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm curious about updating some templates in archives (in this instance only). {{gl-DONE}} and {{gl-PENDING}} were both superseded by {{Gl request}} and I tagged the two older templates with {{tdeprecated}}. But the gl-DONE/PENDING templates were only used in the Graphics Lab Top 4 and eventually saved to the archives (click for an example). The archives only date back to 2010. The important part of the archives, I assume, is to keep a record of the images altered and who altered them. I could easily update the templates in the archives. The only discernible change would be a one-pixel change in thickness to the colored outlines. My intent would be to put the two deprecated templates up for TfD. Would this be considered inappropriate? – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 22:16, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Put the templates up for TfD and explain why they should be deleted and how they would be replaced. If there is no objection after a few days, then start replacing them. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 23:26, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Ah okay, put them up for TfD first. Will do, thanks! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 00:03, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Gembrook

I would like to add a website reference to the "gembrook" page. The website is www.gembrook.com.au How do I do this please? 124.168.106.35 (talk) 23:50, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:External links. --Jayron32 23:57, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

April 24

How to join or list qualifications

Dear Sirs:

I went to your pages and tried to join up. Here is what I encountered:

Wikipedia:WikiProject Rational Skepticism

Please list your interests and specialities. If a member becomes inactive, either on the project for an extended period of time, or on Wikipedia, move them to the "Inactive members" subsection.

Then it says: "Areas of interest/expertise..." which is a link which takes me to the page:

Wikipedia:WikiProject Rational Skepticism/Participants

This page has the item:

Please list your interests and specialities. If a member becomes inactive, either on the project for an extended period of time, or on Wikipedia, move them to the "Inactive members" subsection.

BUT THERE IS NO AREA WHERE I CAN LIST ANYTHING. I CANNOT JOIN. I CANNOT LIST MY INTERESTS.

WOULD YOU **PLEASE* MAKE THIS PAGE INTELLIGIBLE SO I CAN JOIN OR AT LEAST LIST MY QUALIFICATIONS. I AM A RETIRED M.D. AND CAN CONTRIBUTE TO SOME AREAS OR RATIONAL SKEPTICISM BUT AT THIS POINT I AM COMPLETELY FRUSTRATED BY YOUR UNHELPFUL PROCEDURES.

THANK YOU,

JOHN N------ M.D. n---------@comcast.net 4-23-11 Nearenough (talk) 03:16, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

The page you were on was Wikipedia:WikiProject Rational Skepticism/Participants. What you are supposed to do is click [edit] at the end of the Active participants section header there, add

#[[User:Nearenough|Nearenough]] - Interests: <list your interests>

at the end of the list, and click Save. —teb728 t c 03:37, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I know some things can be confusing to beginners. Most pages assume editors know they have to click "edit", so this information is only mentioned on some pages targeted at beginners, for example Help:Editing. Many people would quickly get annoyed if basic things like this was repeated everywhere. By the way, it's optional to list your name in such places to "join up". You are allowed to edit articles without doing it, and most editors don't do it or only do it after many article edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:07, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

font too large

How can i get the font smaller? its too big for me to read comfortably, therefore i never use it. help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.92.137.111 (talk) 03:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

You didn't mention your browser but try to hold down Ctrl and press the '-' key or scroll down on your mouse wheel. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:39, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Gah, PrimeHunter is FAR too quick and helpful :-)

The font size is set in your web browser.

If you are using internet explorer, you may be able to click 'View' (in the menu at the top), then 'Zoom' then 100% (or whatever you like).

In Firefox (current versions) you can click 'View' and 'Zoom' and 'Reset' (or 'Zoom in', 'Zoom out')

In summary: the issue is likely to be with your computer / browser setup, and not a Wikipedia issue, as such. But if you give us more information (about what system you are using), we may still be able to help. Best wishes,  Chzz  ►  03:40, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

P.S. If you create an account for wikipedia and log in, you can set all kinds of user preferences, including the appearance of pages.  Chzz  ►  03:44, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

wikipedia you are not free, here in Brazil, their moderators are dictators

My article is not yet complete and the moderators are trying to delete it. Extremely disappointed I am with Wikipedia. My article http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Meyer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebuba (talk • contribs) 05:18, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Nothing the people at the English Wikipedia can do about it. Corvus cornix_talk 05:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)