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A final (?) chore
[edit]The article's in pretty good shape, as far as this ignoramus can see. At least one tiresome stylistic chore needs to be done, however. Consider this pair of notes (after markup stripping):
- Yukon Quest International. "Yukon Quest Race History", Yukonquest.com. Accessed February 22, 2009.
- Saari, Matias. "Founders recall origins of the Yukon Quest", Fairbanks Daily News-Miner. February 6, 2008. Accessed February 22, 2009.
And more precisely, compare these parts of them
- "Yukon Quest Race History"
- "Founders recall origins of the Yukon Quest"
Every style guide I've ever seen, and my own taste, strongly says that one should ignore the tastes in cApitAliZAtion of individual sources, and instead standardize on either the "up"
- "Yukon Quest Race History"
- "Founders Recall Origins of the Yukon Quest"
style or the "down"
- "Yukon Quest race history"
- "Founders recall origins of the Yukon Quest"
style. ("Up": capitalize wherever doing so isn't ridiculous. "Down": capitalize only where you'd have to if this weren't a title.)
I'm not going to do the job of standardizing, because I'm a lazy fellow, and because I don't know which you'd prefer, JKBrooks85, for your article. If you don't know either, then I'd recommend "down": (i) it looks less pompous, and (ii) there are fewer stylistic/syntactic decisions to be made.
The next question is of how far you go with this. Is it OK to standardize one way (down) for article titles and the other way (up) for book titles and the like? Some people would say no, but I don't think that even the most obsessive of FAC people normally go to such extremes.
Anyway, it's certainly worth spending ten minutes or more deciding on what should be done before implementing it. Worst is to decide on one "solution" and then realize why it's a crock and have to redo most of it. -- Hoary (talk) 08:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to "down" as well, but the tricky thing comes when you've got something like No. 118: "Fairbanks woman claims Red Lantern as Yukon Quest draws to a close" ... should "red lantern" be capped because you're referring to the award rather than just a generic lantern? I'll go through and lowercase some of the more obvious ones (Mission Statement and Philosophy, forex), but if you think I'm missing something, don't hesitate to throw me a note. JKBrooks85 (talk) 12:00, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, capped, because it's the award. ¶ I think the article's pretty good now. If you agree, how about throwing it to
the wolvesthe friendly folk who spend their time at FAC? -- Hoary (talk) 04:39, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, capped, because it's the award. ¶ I think the article's pretty good now. If you agree, how about throwing it to
"more of a Bush experience"
[edit]The article said:
- "We wanted more of a Bush experience, a race that would put a little woodsmanship into it", Shank said at the race's 25th anniversary.<ref name="founding"/>
My own first reaction: Thanks, but eight years of the more recent Bush was quite enough of an experience for me.
Sure enough, the cited source does have Shank saying:
- "We wanted more of a Bush experience, a race that would put a little woodsmanship into it"
The capital is mightily distracting here. I see no good reason for it. Since Shank said this rather than wrote it, surely it is unimportant even if intended by the writer of the article. (My own guess is that it was a mistake somehow deriving from the frequency of newspaper references to Prez Bush, so capitalized.)
In view of this, I decapitalized "Bush". -- Hoary (talk) 02:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- In the newspaper's style, Bush is capitalized in reference to Bush Alaska; i.e. those areas of Alaska off the road system. JKBrooks85 (talk) 04:44, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Ah. I don't know why this would be capitalized, but if (as suggested by its WP article) it commonly is capitalized then do feel free to revert from "bush" to "Bush". -- Hoary (talk) 05:09, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'll also wikilink it in order to prevent the confusion that got us here. JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Honestly, I was going to bring this up in FAC, but considered it so trivial that it wasn't worth mentioning. I should have just wikilinked it and stopped this before it began... MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 07:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Didn't know how to add a section, but there's something that needs to be addressed: Braelynn's comment in the introductory paragraph: (It is the most popular dog sledding race in the world by Braelynne) It adds some information that could be considered important, but it's a mess style-wise. First, it cites no sources, and, given that it's pretty much an opinion, is therefore suspect. A cursory examintation of Googled sources turns up no supporting reference, and it's something which would be hard to measure in any case. B) Braelynn's signature at the end should be removed. 3, It's just stuck on the end of the introductory paragraph in parentheses (exactly as quoted above,) with no period at the end and without even a space between it and the preceding parenthesis. iiii) The referent is unclear. It probably refers to the Yukon Quest itself, but it directly follows a sentence which refers to both the Yukon Quest 300 and the older Yukon quest 250, so, given the placement, it could be any of the three. If it can be shown to have merit, I would put it up front, in the introductory sentence. It seems like the "most popular dogsled race" tag may be a valid point, worthy of inclusion in the article, but unless some supporting documentation can be found, it might be better to delete the comment entirely.
Is there a reason there is no List of YQ winners?
[edit]While looking for a place to put Matt Hall, I noticed that we have no List of Yukon Quest Champions. Anyone know why?L3X1 My Complaint Desk 21:43, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
New map - new tech - GPS tracker
[edit]First timer following a dog sled race & virtually from my desk .. ie the GPS tracker, pictures, video via sites.
SpotLive does the Iditarod too. And checkout Google StreetView man along the route.
See working links in picture location. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:YukonQuestMap.jpeg GPS tracker mixEdit Greg0658 (talk) 19:52, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
2023 separation of races
[edit]This needs updating per this and this and multiple other stories about the dispute that profoundly changed the event for 2023. Valereee (talk) 15:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
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