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Contents block

Yeah - I'd just gone back through the edits that led to the previous blocks and had belatedly come to the same conclusion as you. My finger hovered on the "block" button then I found you'd beaten me to it. Maybe I AGFed a bit too much. Why do these people bother? Cheers, Tonywalton Talk 23:13, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

I hesitated a bit too, but with such a long history of the same type of disruption, and the continuation even after a six month block, something has to be done. They can always request an unblock and I'd be willing to discuss with them. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:17, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

problem solved

Edgar, I talk to the vandals (problem child) and they dont like other people talking about they town, I reassure them we will not do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cord61 (talkcontribs) 19:39, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Vandalizing Russian IP vandals.

Hello. Long time, no write. It has been since the Indonesian vandal has seemingly been dormant for over a month now as there is no vandal activity on his "favorite" articles. (And if he did during the past month, we may not be aware of it and strike on the more obscure ones.)

Unlike him though, the Russian misinformation IP anime vandal (who uses the 92.100.x.x and 91.122.x.x ranges) has never let up. I've listed the addresses he used on a sandbox in my user space. Recently, he has resorted to a third range, which so far has been relatively small compared to the other two ranges. They're all from the so far and I found the addresses through TheFarix's reverts of the guy's vandalism:

I would rather wait for a fifth address, but it seems that under these addresses, he is up to his old tricks for the past four or five days or so. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 16:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, I blocked the range for a few weeks. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


[1]. Drmies (talk) 20:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:35, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, it seems I kept you busy this afternoon. But I'll stop now. All the best, Drmies (talk) 21:16, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

User account confusion and page deletion


As a new Wikipedia user I created a username a few weeks back entitled 'cranfieldhealth' to enable me to build a page on 'Cranfield Health' one of the five schools of Cranfield University. I started to build the page in what I thought was the 'sandbox area'. Following the first building session I received a notification advising that I needed to change the username as it cannot be the same as the company name. I put in a request to do change it to 'Helencdixon'. Today I logged in using the username but believe my draft page on Cranfield Health has been deleted with a 'G11' reason.

I was hoping you'd be so kind as to restore the page so I can complete it and make it live. References are still to be added and the intention is not for the page to primarily be a promotional mechanism. Other schools and other Universities have very similar pages so I would be very dissapointed if Cranfield Health cannot communicate their expertise in the health and bioscience arenas. I now understand that the pages need to written in a 'neutral' way and would also make sure the pages abides by this rule.

Thank you for your help in advance.

Helen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helencdixon (talkcontribs) 12:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, I have restored the draft and placed it at User:Helencdixon/Cranfieldhealth. When you have edited it so that it is more in lines with Wikipedia guidelines, just copy or move it to any appropriate title such as Cranfield Health. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


Hi Edgar, good job for the chemistry articles! Would you mind taking a look at the very first article I just have created on Cerimetry? It is still a temporary subpage (not published yet); I've just created the page today. Your contribution would be appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance, Burgundy111 —Preceding undated comment added 23:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC).

It's a bit outside my area of chemistry, but it looks good to me. I made some formatting changes and it should be fine to move it to the article space whenever you like. Nice job. -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot indeed for the time and effort. Burgundy111 (talk) 00:31, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: KnowIG

Thanks for your response about my post about this problem user at ANI. While this person is knowledgeable about tennis their complete inability to work with others is a detriment to the project. I am sorry that you had to put up with an attack on Commons - as you say you are not the first to have to put up with that. I'm to the point that I would support a ban if it ever gets brought up somewhere. Cheers and have a good weekend. MarnetteD | Talk 00:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

The attacks don't bother me personally (I found them a bit humorous, actually). Please let me know if you encounter any more IPs or socks used by this editor and we'll deal with them as needed. -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Will do. I figured you had probably seen worse in your time as both an editor and an admin. Having observed this editor over the last few months their maturity level seems to be regressing in direct proportion to the number of talk page edits they make :) MarnetteD | Talk 00:30, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
  • re: the part. I know I'm picking nits here. I know it was a good block. I know it was a good decline. I know there was a previous decline. But are we really encouraged to decline an unblock if we're the ones that blocked in the first place? ... and as I said, yep .. I know how trivial this seems. :) Cheers and Best... — Ched :  ?  12:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I let another administrator handle the first unblock request. After that was declined, what followed was clearly just disruption. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Just to let you know he returned today as (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log). This is back to the usual 2.1 range that we are used to seeing. Cheers MarnetteD | Talk 00:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Block evasion

The IP you blocked yesterday User talk: appears to be back using (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Mo ainm~Talk 00:25, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

I have now blocked the IP. -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:38, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism report

@ Robert Lipsyte found 2 serial vandal/disruptive editors.,, I left both of them warnings. Tapered (talk) 06:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on those two IPs. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:00, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


I will copy your comments to talk:triglycine sulfate and reply to you last comment there. Petergans (talk) 09:51, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:00, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


OK but I have already templated/warned them :/ --Tyw7  (☎ Contact me! • Contributions)    Do a good turn daily 13:57, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

No worries. It's really not a big deal either way. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:58, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism Report

I feel Jhoney123 should have a temporary ban for his contributions on Jon Bodo. --Bellsprout723d (talk) 15:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

The page has been deleted and Jhoney123 (talk · contribs) has been warned. I don't think anything else needs to be done at this point unless the problem continues. I'll keep an eye on the user. In the future, you're more likely to get a quick response if you make these types of reports at WP:AIV. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you.--Bellsprout723d (talk) 15:10, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Indonesian vandal back.

Hi. It seems that Mr. Indonesian misinformation vandal is back again, and for the third ever time, he is using (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Please act ASAP because he's active right now. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 12:36, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, I blocked the IP for six months. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC)


Please delete, WWE Over the Limit 2011 by Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Over the Limit (2011) and Over The Limit (2011). Thanks (talk) 22:37, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

I deleted it under criteria G4 because of this discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Over the Limit (2011). As you note, it is also still in the article incubator. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:34, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

removal of useful information

Hello Edgar, On 12th April I took time to correct information within the entry for SQDG. In response, you removed the box that I had corrected. Now there is no picture of the structure, no atomic formula and calculated mass. This is clearly a step backwards. I understand the point about a class of compounds but suggest this be handled by showing the structure and atomic formula for a common example. SQDG from spinach has predominantly 16:0 and 18:3 fatty acids. With respect, Julian

Julian Whitelegge Professor, The Pasarow Mass Spectrometry Laboratory The NPI-Semel Institute, David Geffen School of Medicine, UCLA Tel. 310 794 5156

Whitelegge (talk) 17:04, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I removed the {{chembox}} from Sulfoquinovosyl diacylglycerol because I do not think that the information was relevant. It contained only data for a specific chemical compound, but the article is about a class of chemical compounds. There is consensus among Wikipedia chemists not to include a chembox for classes of compounds. I agree with you that a sample chemical structure for a common member of this class would be a good idea. The image that was previously in the article, file:SQDG chemical structure.png, I think is a poor example. Both acyl groups are derived from a 17-carbon fatty acid which I don't think will be common at all. I'll create a new image and add it to the article. Would the SQDG containing one 16:0 fatty acid and one 18:3 fatty acid be the best example, or is there something more appropriate? -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:23, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I created an image for sulfoquinovosyl dipalmitoylglycerol, the most common SQDG based on a Chem Abstracts search, and I added it to the article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC) block

The above ip belongs to that of an educational institution (Stellenbosch University, South Africa) and has been blocked due to a number of acts of vandalism or other undesirable conduct originating from it. Unfortunately this prevents most or all US internet users from editing Wikipedia articles. While I am not disputing the validity of the block it does however have monumental consequences for the US academic input to Wikipedia.

Users behind the US proxy (at time of typing) can not dispute the block, create a legitimate account or contact you on this talk page. Only by accessing an account creation process that is not readily apparent can one circumvent the block.

I wish to bring this to your attention for deliberation.

Regards ZAR Diago (talk) 17:53, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Because of the level of vandalism from that IP address, anonymous editing was blocked. As you note, registered users have not been prevented from editing. I have now altered the block settings to allow account registration. This should help. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. Users from behind the proxy now appear able to register for accounts. - ZAR Diago (talk) 16:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks...

...for the revert on my user pages and subsequent block. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 15:05, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:06, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Greetings and...

Greetings Edgar181. I've just seen that you've deleted the webcam (or-whatever-it's-called) link from 2011 Spanish protests. I was a bit doubtful as to whether to do so myself, but not remembering the Wikipolicy in question, decided to AGF and leave it. As the same link appears over at the original Wikipedia in Spanish (added more or less at the same time), I'd appreciate it if you could clear this one up for me. And while I've got your undivided attent., wouldn't it be better to change the title to something like Protests in Spain (2011). I suppose it would mean changing the titles to other, similar articles, but I reckon it's a more precise title. Thanks for being out there. Cheers! --Technopat (talk) 22:16, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I removed the external link primarily because of the apparent conflict of interest. (The link was added by a user with a name that matches the website address.) If there is any uncertainty about the appropriateness of the link, just can ask on the talk page for others' opinions, and follow the consensus there. As for the title, I'm not sure which would be better - I wouldn't have an objection to either of the titles "2011 Spanish protests" or "Protests in Spain (2011)". -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:45, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. --Technopat (talk) 17:01, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


Hi, would it be possible to block User: AMBLE PROJECTS from editing his own talk page. He is using that space to advertise. Karl 334 TALK to ME 17:34, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, done. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


Hi, could you check out my request for blocking of an abusive IP. That is basically threatning me. See here for threats. Im just so tired of these abusive IPs. Thanks--BabbaQ (talk) 15:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the other administrator at AIV that the edits from this IP are not vandalism. However, some of their language borders on personal attacks (though I wouldn't call it threatening). My advice is to ignore the comments on your talk page, or just remove them. Another editor left a warning on the IP talk page, but this point, I don't think there is justification for blocking. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:37, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
OK. But I will continue reporting the IP if personal attacks continue. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:39, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
By the way, I might be wrong but is it OK for an IP to remove comments on its talk page without archiving them. And now I mean good faith comments, just because they (the IP) dont like them. Not the kind of comments the IP sent me. Because the IP in question just removed a warning/comment that I sent him/her. cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, it is generally considered OK to remove valid warnings from one's talk page. It is viewed as evidence that the message was seen and read. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:44, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
OK then I know from now on. Anyway the IP needs to show more respect from now on. Lets hope for the best. And thanks for helping me. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Something you should also bear in mind in your future interactions with IPs is the use of an IP is not always a sign you are dealing with a novice editor - I think, that via IP and when I used a User name, I must be somewhere in the region of 20,000 edits. -- (talk) 16:39, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Just leave it. You have been told to not make personal attack. Move on. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:35, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi (again!)

Hi, sorry to have to bother you again, but I feel this remark is offensive by user Niteshift against me. Offensive language etc. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion, that's not very offensive. Again, my advice is to just ignore it, or remove it from your talk page. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:30, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

About 1-Chloro-1,1-difluoroethane - thank you!

Hi Edgar181. Thanks so much for fixing up the article. I found it as an amorphous lump of text. I do admit I sometimes jump into new articles I have no expertise in, with results sometimes good, sometimes not so good. Was I on the right track with this one? Your feedback will be greatly appreciated! --Shirt58 (talk) 12:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you did a great job cleaning it up. Thanks. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Informative Company Pages - No advertising

Hi Edgar - Quick question for you based on your expertise. I wanted to get your advice on how to make something that was education about a smaller company since larger companies like GE have pages.

Don't want to be advertising centric. Appreciate your help - just trying to be proactive here.

Neil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neilcosta (talkcontribs) 13:15, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia has notability guidelines for including pages about companies. If you think the small company meets the criteria outlined at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), and you think you can write a neutral (non-promotional) article in your own words, then please feel free to create the article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:19, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I completely understand - Thanks for the guidance - I will check it out. Neilcosta (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)Neilcosta


I note that you blocked User:729gabbyandalex for 24 hours. This is just to let you know that 729gabbyandalex is a disruptive sockpuppet that has been vandalising since December 2010. The editor has been discussed at ANI, the editor's IP range has been range-blocked a couple of times and an edit filter was finally created to catch some of the vandalism after 1300+ edits. More information can be found at User:AussieLegend/Project 04#The Verizon vandal. An indef block is warranted. I reported this one at WP:AIV but the report was removed because you had already blocked it for a day. --AussieLegend (talk) 17:27, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know about the long term abuse. I have reblocked the account indefinitely. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Mobile Marketing Group Page Deletion


You have deleted the page for Mobile Marketing Group and actually asked for a speedy deletion.

The information on this page was a direct copy of the information from the Direct Marketing Association DMA, The Government Body for Direct Marketing in the United Kingdom, I draw your attention to the following URL .

Please re-instate this page.

I kindly ask for you to correctly review pages before you delete them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pressmmgrp (talkcontribs) 21:17, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Because it was a direct copy of a press release, that was the reason for the speedy deletion. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:07, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for User:'t create an account

An editor has asked for a deletion review of User:'t create an account. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. (talk) 21:31, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

The article hasn't been deleted. It was moved to User:Frankie/Don't create an account by Frankie. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:52, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Edgar can you unblock for 15 mins - I'm teaching a class. Block it again if its unmanageable Can you send a message if you can. Victuallers (talk) 10:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC) (admin)

Sure, if I'm around. Can you be more specific about when? -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Range reblock request.

Hello. Sorry to disturb you, but can you reblock the range? The known Russian IP-hopping anime vandal came back today using the address (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). Same MO of putting unsourced info on anime-related articles and especially making it appear that the Philippine animated show Super Inggo at ang Super Tropa had gone worldwide when in fact, it is confirmed to be shown only in a few countries. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I blocked the range for several months. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:21, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Please block "User:"

I see from their block log that you and another editor have blocked this person before now. I have reviewed said individual's edit history to some depth and have yet to find any useful edits (I reverted one he made just today on James and the Giant Peach). You blocked him for 48 hours last time... May I humbly suggest a longer block?

Thanks for your consideration!

Your anonymous colleague, (talk) 18:34, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Wow! That was fast. Thank you! :-) (talk) 18:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

That IP address does have a long history of persistent unconstructive edits, so I have blocked it for a few months. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
You are absolutely welcome! You can bet if I see similar issues elsewhere I will keep you in mind. If that is okay with you, that is. (talk) 18:48, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine with me. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Bafilomycin A1.png

The structure drawing (Bafilomycin A1.png) is probably not correct. One methyl group near the methyl enol ether is moved over. The structure is different from all of the other structures that I've seen including the ones on the wiki page that are displayed in jmol. If I could figure out how to change it, I would, but this is my first venture into editing wikipedia.

I appreciate your work in this area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Methano (talkcontribs) 14:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. I have uploaded a new file, File:Bafilomycin A1.svg to replace it. Thanks for catching the error and letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed Image Deletion

A deletion discussion has just been created at Category talk:Unclassified Chemical Structures, which may involve one or more orphaned chemical structures, that has you user name in the upload history. Please feel free to add your comments.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:52, 10 June 2011 (UTC)


Do you know the answer to this question. If a guitar string vibrates at 3 beats/second when struck with a 250 Hz tuning fork and 7 beats/second when struck with a 245Hz tuning fork, what is the frequency of the guitar string? Can you explain how you found the answer? Thanks--S.G.J. Forestell 20:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SamForestell (talkcontribs)

Sorry, I don't know the answer. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:38, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind, I changed to a school block. -- DQ (t) (e) 12:14, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't mind at all. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Block notification for User:Lovestruckdating

Good afternoon. I think you may have forgotten to leave a note on User talk:Lovestruckdating letting the user know that his/her account was blocked because the account itself appears to promote a website. I added a note there myself, as the user might have otherwise thought that (s)he was blocked for creating an article about his/her website. Apologies if you have in fact contacted the user about this, via another medium. Regards, Tommyjb Talk! (13:57, 14 June 2011)

Yeah, I missed that one. Thanks for catching it. But in any case, since I used {{softerblock}} as the block reason, the user will see that message if they try to edit, even if there is nothing on their talk page. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion

you deleted the page funzo t-shirts, after reading your reason for deletion, I request to add {{db-web}} to the page. I am trying to create a page like the page for snorg tees.

This page should not be speedy deleted because... --Funzotshirts (talk) 20:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Page: funzo t-shirts

You said the reason for deletion was A7 - Please add the db-web code to the page. I'm trying to create a page something like the snorg tees page.

I deleted Funzo t-shirts because it did not make any assertion of notability, and therefore met the criteria for speedy deletion (WP:CSD#A7). If you think the company meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for inclusion (see WP:CORP) and you think you can write a neutrally-worded article about it, you are free to recreate the article with sufficient content to demonstrate that it meet the notability criteria. Also, since Wikipedia does not allow usernames that match the name of a business so you might want to consider signing up with a different username. Finally, you may want to have a look at the conflict of interest guidelines, which may apply here. I hope this helps. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


This was a page I posted (you deleted) that is a work in progress at this time. It was to be updated with more information. Your reasons were it was direct advertising to the company (by the way I have no affiliation to) however Groupon is a simliar site and is allowed on Wikipedia. Please advise what is needed to make this article wikipedia worthy. Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seankellington (talkcontribs) 20:49, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

The problem was the wording of the content of the article. In both tone and wording it came across as purely and blatantly promotional. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and articles need to be written from a neutral point of view. Also, you may want to have a look at Wikipedia's notability criteria for inclusion: Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


Hi Good Afternoon,

You have deleted Kopeius from Wiki and said it is due to copy write infringement, however i am actually the artist manager for Kopeius and have written the bio myself.

The pages that are linked to Kopeius have also had the same bio, hence why it is similar.

Please can you revert the deletion so it will remain live and advise all administrators the same?

I have never used Wiki before but it is something i am going to need to do, however i am lost with how complex it all is just to add an Artist/Performer.

Please help

Louise Parnell Director Output Live Limited — Preceding unsigned comment added by Outputlive (talkcontribs) 12:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia simply does not permit copying material directly from other websites without explicit permission. If you are the website owner, you can follow the directions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Also, you might find it helpful to have a look at Wikipedia's notability criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (music), and the guidelines pertaining to conflicts of interest, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. I hope this helps. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:00, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

"upcoming film"

Please stop moving these pages without discussion on talk pages - this kind of wholesale change to established convention would need consensus. "(2012 film)" is appropriate with the release date set, and has been for a while. It can always be moved if the date changes. However, that doesn't stop you seeking a change of consensus in the appropriate place... --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:04, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

OK, I won't move any more. When I added Category:2012 films to these articles, I got push back from multiple editors that this category wasn't appropriate per WP:CRYSTAL because release dates can change. So I thought I would test the waters (WP:BRD) by moving a few. Are there differing conventions for titles vs categories? We can title them as 2012 films, but not categorize them as such? -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:12, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
You raised a good point, I suggest bringing it up at the project's page.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 15:17, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah - I see your point too. Sorry if I jumped on you, but there have been multiple discussions on how to name some of these (especially The Hobbit) so would need consensus to change the current practice. This being said, I'm not necessarily against the change. --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
No need to apologize, I don't feel "jumped on" at all. I've started a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film#Upcoming_films. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Block of User:

Given they've edit warred on WP:RfPP and made personal attacks I think they should be blocked for longer than 24 hours. I think a week or so would probably be better. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:58, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Considering that this person has switched IPs already today, it is likely that they will move on to a new IP address soon anyway and blocking for longer than 24 hours won't help. I will keep an eye on this IP and reblock for longer if the problem persists when the block expires. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


Would you mind if I reblocked Cedrico013 (talk · contribs) indefinitely? Materialscientist (talk) 12:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

That's fine. I'm probably in a too generous mood today. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:57, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Speaking English clearly to me is somewhat easier than writing it. Thanks for the correctios.T.vanschaik (talk) 14:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. Thanks for all your contributions to chemistry articles. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:51, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Deleted HP technology Services page


In an effort to rewrite the entry for HP Technology Servicesentry so it has enough content to warrant its own page and also meet Wikipedia's requirements for third-pary references, I created a new page then linked to it from another related page HP Enterprise Business. The notice I see when I click on the link to HP Technology Services from HP Enterprise Business says that you had deleted the pasge for insubstantial content and that I need to contact you before trying to create the page again. Please advise how I should proceed. Layers72 (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

When I deleted that article it was only a repeat of the title - it was a truly empty article, so there is nothing you need from me before creating it. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:59, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


Could you add a better illustration of the synthesis mechanism to Aspirin#Synthesis. Smallman12q (talk) 00:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure, but can you be a little more specific about what improvements you have in mind? The two diagrams currently in that section look reasonable to me. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:50, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
You're right. The diagrams look fine...not sure what I was thinking=P...Smallman12q (talk) 12:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Lymecycline structure

Good day,

I'm a chemistry student,when i read the molecular formula of lymecycline and counted the number per atoms present in your illustration i found that the number of atoms differ from the actual molecular formula. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asolomonkp (talkcontribs) 13:04, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Based on the links to various databases in the infobox, the problem was an incorrect molecular formula, not an incorrect illustration. I have now fixed the data. Thanks for catching the problem and letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Block of User talk:

Just FYI, you'd blocked the above user Wednesday for a run of vandalism. The block expired, and he's up to his vandalism tricks again ... [2]  ῲ Ravenswing ῴ  23:51, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I have blocked that IP address again. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:21, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


Hello. I noticed you deleted an addition to the Popular Culture section on Scopolamine regarding a mention in the film Robocop 2. What criteria did you use to decide to delete that particular reference? In defence of including the reference: the film was seen by in excess of a million people, so the mention in the film is quite probably the most likely channel for people to even hear the word Scopolamine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

The simple fact that "scopolamine gets a mention" in a movie is not sufficient relevance for it to be included in an encyclopedia article. If scopolomine were important to the plot of a popular movie, it might be worth including, but a mere passing reference is just mere trivia and inappropriate to include. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Block on user LEXIDO

Hi Edgar, I think you blocked my user account LEXIDO due to a possible violation from a post to the Nietzsche Home page. This was my very first post to Wikipedia and despite my best intentions it appears that I have made a dreadful error - many apologies for that. One question - I made my post in good faith. After you blocked me I could find no way to communicate with you. Can you please advise how I can respond to your block using my account LEXIDO. I would like to respond to you using that account.

Many thanks,

Steven Quayle — Preceding unsigned comment added by QCASTLE (talkcontribs) 22:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about the confusion. I have no problem with the edit that you made to Friedrich Nietzsche. Wikipedia simply does not permit usernames that match the name of a website. As the block message says, you are free to sign up with a new account with a different username (as you've already done). Or, if you prefer, you can abandon this new account and follow the directions at Wikipedia:Changing username to have the other account renamed. I have unblocked the LEXIDO account so you should be able to make a username change request if that's what you want to do. I hope this helps. -- Ed (Edgar181) 01:26, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Zeatin picture

Hi, you have uploaded picture of zeatin with higher resolution, but without hydroxyl group :) (talk) 20:24, 15 July 2011 (UTC) HlTo

You're right. It's all fixed now. Thanks for catching the error and letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Changing {{Italic}} to {{Italic title}}

Hi, I just wanted to say that I'm changing all {{Italic}} to {{Italic title}} since I'm creating a new template named italic, and I found one instance one of your archived talk pages, if you would want to change to the correct template. —Kri (talk) 13:31, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I switched it. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:34, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


Nuvola apps edu languages.svg
Hello, Edgar181. You have new messages at Category talk:Unclassified Chemical Structures.
Message added 20:54, 16 July 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Seems that I missed 6 bad SVGs when I went through them, Leyo has given links to the six, could you run though them with the script. Thanks.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 20:54, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. I can do it on Monday. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:15, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 Done -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:17, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Altering my brief quote in yellow/ black text at Vitamin D talk

Please don't do that unless there is official Wikipedia guidance or a technical issue (in which case please cite ). The rationale for using yellow and black text is that they are the color of danger and I happen to think that it's vitally necessary to highlight that particular quote in a way that conveys that it is an official warning of a hazard to health. Overagainst (talk) 13:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines specifically states to "avoid excessive emphasis." I can't think of a more excessive violation of that than highlighting your own comments with bolded yellow on black text. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:42, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, no more 'letters of fire', the plethora of lurid usernames misled me about what was permissible. Still, it was a quote I over-emphasized, not my words (or username) Overagainst (talk) 18:20, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
I understand what you mean about usernames. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:04, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


CLENBUTEROL is a beta2-agonist, or more correctly a beta2-adrenergic receptor agonist, similar to the asthma medication salbutamol used in humans and like all beta2-agonist it is by definition a sympathomimetic, To state it "is also a sympathomimetic IN the peripheral nervous system" is awkward, to say the least. I removed it. The article needs cleaning up and side effects and risks need to be expanded. Horses have died of overdoses with Clenbuterol so the use in humans is dangerous of this for human use illegal drug. In the US several asthmatics die every year on over- or misuse of dangerous beta2-agonists necessary to control their asthma and milder than Clenbuterol. The latter is NOT released for human use in the US, therefore no detailed instructions on human use should appear. I am a physician and am very concerned that wikipedia gives these instructions. Please flag Clenbuterol for editing, references from the FDA and DOJ are needed, etc. Access to editing should be limited to reliable editors. I am sure what I strike out will reappear, i.e. instructions on use and try to leave some references.

Thank you. imyoung — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imyoung (talkcontribs) 00:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the explanation - and I agree that the article definitely needs better referencing. I just didn't know what your intentions were by striking out text. I have simply removed the statement now. -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:41, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

need your assistance

Dear Edgar 181,

I was just wondering why have You deleted article about "Ansher Fund Management"?! The article was clear and very informing. I am sure there was nothing that could be considered as a voilation of someones rights, or anything like that. I know that You are advanced user of Wiki and have done a lot of contribution. So, could You please share your experience about artile posting, dos and don'ts?

Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khurshida Komilova (talkcontribs) 05:33, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I deleted Ansher Fund Management because it was empty. You created the article, then promptly blanked it. It therefore met criteria for deletion (WP:CSD#G7). Did you not intend to blank it? -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:11, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Hạ Long Bay

The result of some strange glitch. Can you fix it.-Cntras (talk) 11:49, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I deleted it. I'll let the owner of the bot that created it know about the glitch. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Where's it at now? Lovely article. I was just about do a little gnomish work on it.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Hạ Long Bay. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
It's all good. -Cntras (talk) 12:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Thầnk yỗủ! Heck darn it, I'm having so much fun with edit_bar.special_characters.Latin_extended.Vietnamese I can't find the signature and timestamp button. Oh, there it is. --Shirt58 (talk) 12:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 :) -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:26, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:NOTDAB, WP:SIA, Begar, India

Maybe you were not aware of WP:NOTDAB / WP:SIA. Please see that Begar, India is part of Category:Set indices on populated places in India.

Could you reverse the deletion of Begar, India?

Bogdan Nagachop (talk) 18:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Whether it is disambig page or set index page (a trivial distinction, in my opinion), it was just a page with no content except red links. But now that the linked pages have been created, the page is no longer useless, so I have undeleted it. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:28, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


Do you think it would be appropriate to create a redirect page that redirects from PBRT to the article for LuxRender? Dedwarmo (talk) 01:29, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

It seems reasonable to me. Or, if you think PBRT is notable on its own, you might want to just start a new article on it. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:33, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

User:Redbaron Films Inc.

This account's only activity has been to create hoax articles advertising themselves and a supposed backer nobody ever heard of. I felt that a spamusername block, rather than the softerblock, was in order on this one. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, that's fine with me. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:54, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The Deletion of the Free Jinger page

Dear Edgar, I'm a frequent participant at the message board, and I would like to ask that you reactivate the page. Though there can be a great deal of a much needed comic relief there, the site also discusses relevant issues concerning not only the Duggar family but the aberrant and cultic theology that gave way to the lifestyle in the first place. This subject has been addressed at length in Kathryn Joyce's Quiverfull book (published 2009) and the subjects expounded upon in the Biblical Patriarchy and Vision Forum threads here on Wikipedia. And actually, I would like to see the Criticism section of the Vision Forum page significantly expanded, just as soon as I get caught up on summer activities.

If we who participate there make a commitment to continue to develop the page, can it be reopened? I would be happy to discuss what kind of content you would like to see added to the page or deleted from it in order to make it appropriate and acceptable. Is there a way that I could correspond with you privately about the matter?

Respectfully, A fellow and proud Pennsylvania native, married to a PhD Chemist.  :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elizabeth Elliot (talkcontribs) 22:51, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia has notability criteria for the inclusion of articles about websites. Details can be found at Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Notability (web). As it stood, there was no suggestion that the article met those criteria. For now I have moved the article to User:Elizabeth Elliot/Free Jinger where you can work on this draft to improve the sourcing such as showing evidence of national media attention, for example. Currently the article only included as a reference one article by a local TV station,, which does not appear to even mention Free Jinger. If you improve the article to the point where you think it meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, you can then move the article back to the title Free Jinger. If you want to contact me privately you can email me at I hope this helps. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:42, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

AIV thanks

Thank you for your quick intervention. Odd, because the user doesn't seem previously to have been all bad, but appears to have gone nuts on this general topic very suddenly. Oh well. Thanks again DBaK (talk) 12:48, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

A compromised account, perhaps? -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
I did wonder. But there have been silly comments before, too, as well as some apparently serious stuff (I think). I guess we might hear the "it was my little brother/classmate/etc" thing ... it's difficult to know. All I am sure is that I am grateful to you for blocking the account immediately so as to minimize damage - sorting out the user himself is something I am happy to leave to admins! Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:56, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
It probably wasn't best to use "vandalism only" as the reason for the block, because there does seem to be some good edits from this account. I'll just watch the talk page and see what happens. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:57, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Oops sorry if I ticked the wrong box - I wasn't sure how to categorize it and I wanted an admin to look at it soon, as I was worried I couldn't keep pace with the vandalism if he kept going! Cheers DBaK (talk) 13:21, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
No, not you. When I blocked the user, I chose "vandalism only" as the reason. You reported it fine. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Aaaah good, thanks - I am always skating along the edge of my own competence in these matters so I assumed I'd screwed up! Cheers DBaK (talk) 13:32, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Sulfone edit clash

Hello, sorry, but while I was adding refs to the sulfone article, you did some cleaning up. I tried to preserve your changes, but would you mind checking to see that what I left is satisfactory to you? Thanks. JonRichfield (talk) 14:14, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

No problem. That happens sometimes. Thanks for your nice improvements to the article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
My blushes, my pleasure! JonRichfield (talk) 17:34, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

new page deleted

Hello, I created a page that was deleted : 13:04, 25 July 2011 Edgar181 (talk | contribs) deleted "Dance genealogy" ‎ (A3: Article has no meaningful, substantive content) (This page contained a few lines and mostly a link to a jpg flowchart that I created.) I would like to create a page containing this well documented and interesting flowchart I created explaining the history of Dance. I made this flowchart both in pdf and in jpg format. However as a new member I think I'm not allowed to upload a picture (jpg), and I don't know if there is a way to upload a pdf. That's the reason why in the first place I created a page with a link to the jpg. I would really like to contribute this document on Wikipedia, since I believe it can be of great help for people who are interested in an efficient and concise flowchart of dance history. Please tell me if there is a way I can do that : the best would be of course to upload the jpg file on a new page. Thank you for your help and attention. My username is Bboymor-EBboymor-E (talk) 18:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I deleted the article because it was essentially empty - just a request to follow a link to an image at another website. Permission to upload an image to Wikipedia is given after an account is 4 days old and has made a small number of edits (10 if I remember correctly). Alternately, you can use Wikipedia:Files for upload to request that someone else upload an image for you. Also, it would be better to add content to the article History of dance rather that starting a new article on the same subject. I hope this helps. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:03, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Ok, could you please tell me if edits in wikipedia in other languages are taken into account too in the minimum 10 number of edits required. (For example edits made in ? Bboymor-EBboymor-E (talk) 06:39, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

No, I don't think they are. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Promin structure fixed

Hi Edgar,

I fixed the Promin structure in Avogadro and re-rendered it. I think that addresses your concerns adequately. Please take a look and let me know whether anything still looks obviously wrong. Avogadro does a force-field optimization of molecular structure, so for a small molecule like this it should be about adequate. --Slashme (talk) 20:20, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks great. Thanks for the quick fix. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png The Barnstar of Diligence
Thanks for pointing out the errors in the Promin 3D structure so quickly after I uploaded it! That saved me some embarrassment, considering that I've submitted the article for DYK, and also prompted me to find out how to use Avogadro to make much nicer molecule pics! Slashme (talk) 14:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Indonesian vandal again...

Hello. Long time no write again.

I know it's way too late now (this is over 11 days after the fact), but Indonesian anime/NBC misinformation vandal used (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) for an nth time. Can this be blocked again despite the gap? Thanks. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 09:49, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

PS: Based on the timestamps, he struck while I was at work that day. I only discovered his MO again today when I checked the page history of the Sanrio article. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 09:54, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, I blocked the IP. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:14, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Block evasion IP

I have temporarily blocked the IP. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:50, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Unless there are deleted contribs, the last edit from (talk · contribs) (07:03, 31 July 2011)[3] was before the block (10:22, 31 July 2011) [4]  Chzz  ►  16:52, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Would you please unblock, or explain why not. If no answer, I'll assume you are not online, and will unblock.--SPhilbrickT 17:32, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
I unblocked. If anyone thinks my unblock was wrong, feel free to reblock, or let me know, and I'll reblock.--SPhilbrickT 17:41, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. I replied at ANI. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:41, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm hyper-sensitive about reversing the action of another admin; I haven't been bitten, but I'd like not to, so I'm happy to see that it was just a mistaken read of time stamps.--SPhilbrickT 19:50, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Block request

Hello. This is not related to the Indonesian vandal, but can you block (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? This vandal's MO is putting ridiculous Dragon Ball and weapon-based info on Sanrio-related articles. He comes in sporadically, but seems to have done so long-term since last April. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 14:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I blocked the IP address. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:01, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Protected page

Ed, Yesterday (August 1st) at 12:36 you protected the page Trevor Hemmings, there is a profanity on line 1 in the brackets. As you protected the page I am unable to edit the page to remove this profanity, could you please oblige.Paul1909 (talk) 14:06, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

It looks like User:Topher385 has already removed it. If you encounter this type of problem again, you can place the template {{Edit semi-protected}} on the talk page of the article and explain the problem, and someone should help out more quickly. Thanks for helping to spot the vandalism. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:11, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Judas12345 Block

Although I understand why you blocked the user based on WP:BLP however the user made three edits, was warned for all three, and stopped editing at that time. Your block (coming as it did ~9 hours later) seems punitive rather then preventative. I'm not saying that Judas would have come back today and decided to actually constructively contribute... but it's possible. Crazynas t 22:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we should have any tolerance for individuals who are only here to attack people. It is not unusual for administrators to block such editors on sight, and that's what I regularly do. It's not punitive, but rather prudent action to prevent further violations of Wikipedia's BLP policy. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I suppose, and this really has nothing to do with you specifically but, I'm trying to figure out in my own mind where BLP and not biting meet, and where the happy medium is. I wonder what the false positive rate is on blocking users that made apparently unconstructive edits but would have returned to the project as a positive contributors. Although it was a different time, my own start to Wikipedia was a bit rocky and if I had been labeled I might not have stayed around. (Note that this isn't, at this point a request to unblock the user or commenting on anything specific on that block, but an attempt to clarify/understand and put my two cents in).
Crazynas t 18:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
At the risk of sounding like a lawyer, I would note that BITE is a behavior guideline while BLP is a policy. BLP is in fact one of the policies that the Wikimedia Foundation takes most seriously. See for example Resolution:Biographies_of_living_people. Therefore whenever BITE and BLP are at odds, BLP should take precedence. From a purely ethical standpoint, I believe that because Wikipedia has such a prominent online role and consequently has the power to do real harm to individuals when negative material is present, Wikipedia has an obligation to minimize that potential harm. Being firm (even bitey) in dealing with individuals who violate our BLP policy is entirely consistent with that view. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:41, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Trump vandalism

Hi, I found your id associated w/ the recent deletion log for Donald Trump; I assume you were an involved Admin who dealt w/ recent vandalism?

I have a related question, perhaps you can help me... Several months ago Bearian took off protection level from Trump (out of spite no doubt – he's a liberal who detests Trump, which isn't a personal attack I'm sure he would agree if it is not plain to see. Since then there have been hundreds of IP valdalisms to the article. And not even one valid contribution (if I'm off, then it's not by much, maybe only one edit was not reverted due to vandalism).

Bearian's action to de-protect was after failed attempt to have the article deleted, calling it "hopeless mess". His request was rejected ala SNOWBALL. His justification to de-protect was stated as allowing more input to clean up the article by attracting "more objective" editors.

I hope my question is obvious. Since nothing positive was achieve by his act to de-protect, and there isn't any reasonable expectation for something positive (if history is any gauge at all), then why hasn't his act be reversed by a conscientious Admin?

A separate issue (but one I'm not asking you), is why isn't Bearian's act seen as vandalism itself? (I think there is every reason to conclude that it was done out of spite. For example, he doesn't bother to doubt his decision based on the results, and revert the de-protect himself.)

I would like to get some understanding of this, right now it makes no reasonable sense to me. Can you help me? Thank you. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 14:33, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I think you are being too harsh on Bearian and making unfounded accusations. I would encourage you to read the guideline at Wikipedia:Assume good faith and tone down your accusative attitude. The article had been semi-protected for three years, and was apparently forgotten about by User:Acalamari who had protected it (see User_talk:Acalamari#Change_protection_level_for_.22Donald_Trump.22). That's a very long time for an article to be protected and articles tend to stagnate somewhat when they are protected like that. I think it was perfectly reasonable for Bearian to remove the protection at that time to allow more potentional improvements to the article. Having said that, and looking back at the article's history, it seems to me that edits from anonymous and unconfirmed editors have been almost universally unconstructive and commonly in violation of our BLP policy when the article has been unprotected. Therefore, I agree with you that it would be a good idea to reinstate the semi-protection, so I have now done so. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for helping me understand the protection history, and for action taken! Ok, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 21:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Why you deleted a page

Hi There, my name is Zina Nelku and I'm trying to create a bio page for a notable professor, scientist, doctor and researcher Dr. Abdallah Daar. His bio is also on the McLaughlin-Rotman Centre for Global Health and he has received numerous awards and recognition in the Global Health field:

I'm open to suggestions on how I can improve this bio so that it can be published on Wiki, as I think it would be a valuable bio to have on your website. Would referencing his CV help?

This is the page that was deleted:

Many thanks, Zina — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:11, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I deleted Abdallah_daar because it was taken word-for-word from a copyrighted website. Wikipedia simply cannot accept such material (see WP:COPYVIO). If you think that Abdallah Daar meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines (WP:BIO), please feel free to recreate the article using text written in your own words. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:42, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

additional question

I work with Dr. Daar and so I could remove the (c) off the bottom of the website, would that help? Or is there a disclaimer we could add to his page to give wikipedia permission to use content on this page? I really don't want to re-write it, because it's accurate and perfectly written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:58, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Try having a look at this page: Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. The section titled "Granting us permission to copy material already online" seems to answer your question. I hope this helps. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:02, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

u deleted kalika mandir named page

hello chemist do not again delete that page

Articles with no meaningful content are detrimental to Wikipedia and routinely deleted under speedy deletion criteria (see WP:CSD#A3). -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:48, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much

Thanks for responding so helpfully to my request for your help with recent vandalism to my homepage. It is really appreciated. Thank you again. Elland1 (talk) 17:53, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:03, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Article: Jatindra Kumar Nayak

I started the article Jatindra Kumar Nayak. Even if I had given proof of notability, reference and ext. link User Eduemoni added the Speedy Deletion tag. You joined and deleted the tag for obvious reasons (Edgar181 (talk | contribs) (speedy deletion declined - cited translation/academic works are indications of notability).

Now after that I find another tag has been added for Speedy Deletion by RHaworth (Latest revision as of 19:58, 7 August 2011 (edit) (undo) RHaworth (talk | contribs)

What is the purpose of this latest Deletion tag?

Is there anything I can do to save the article.

The subject is of course notable, with Translation awards (two) at National level and a host of translated books to his credit.

Please guide.

Wikipedia requires that biographies of living people contain a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article. The article has been tagged according to Wikipedia:Proposed deletion of biographies of living people. You simply need to supply a suitable reference within ten days; otherwise the article will be deleted. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:41, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Requests

Edgar181 - Thank you so much for rescuing the deletion request, by Alan Liefting. He has nominated 15 pages in the last 2 hours for deletion that I have contributed to and are on my watch list. I am looking for assistance in making the pages better, to rescue them. Geek2003 (talk) 14:55, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't think I can help much. I don't know much of anything about these types of products, so I don't think I could do much to improve them. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion requests

Hi there, I saw that you speedy deleted File:Tuiflynordic.gif. I have replaced other logos in .SVG format that are still awaiting speedy deletion. Would you be able to delete these for me?

Transavia logo.png File:Jetairfly.png File:Corsairfly.png

Thank you Thesimsmania (talk) 15:22, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

OK,  Done -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:33, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you Thesimsmania (talk) 21:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

caldachaeol user:bgabler

dear edgar, i uploaded a picture name: caldachaeol.png. I think this is clearer, and the configuration ist korrekt. I don't know, who to substitute the old against my picture. Mybe you can do it, if you agree with me. Thank you, regards (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:39, 9 August 2011 (UTC).

Can you please be more specific about what you think is wrong with File:Caldarchaeol.png? There is no file named File:caldachaeol.png for me to compare with. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:53, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Dear Edgar, as you may be know, the C40-Caldarchaeol has a C2-Symmetry. Honestly I am to lazy to prove, all configurations of the carbon atoms in your picture according to the CIP-Rules. There are one up to four cyclopentane rings in the lipid. The number of cyclopentane rings depends on the temperature, the organism growing.

Publication: If you will tell me your email address, I send you the paper from the link and my picture. Best Regard Bert Gabler Bgabler (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC).

I have checked all the stereocenters in my image and they are correct. But I don't understand the point you are trying to make about other lipids. If other lipids have different chemical structures containing cyclopentane rings, what does that have to do with the image for caldarchaeol? (I like the modular approach to the syntheses in your paper - that's a good way of accessing multiple stereoisomers.) -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:10, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Brownie transparent.png Hello Edgar181! I hope you enjoy this yummy treat as a friendly greeting from a fellow Wikipedian, SwisterTwister talk 21:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Face-smile.svg Thank you. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:49, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the deletions

Export hell seidel steiner.png A nice cold beer to wash down the brownie and say thanks for those userdels.

If you are a against alcohol don't worry - pretend it is alcohol free :¬D
Chaosdruid (talk) 13:26, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. (Especially in exchange for beer.) -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:28, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Camphorsulfonic acid

Hey Ed

Could you take a look at this article, see if the latest addition is appropriate, and perhaps rephrase it? Thanks. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 17:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

The recent addition was too detailed, in my opinion, but not entirely inappropriate. I toned it down and generalized it a bit. Let me know what you think. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:10, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. I think it's great. I didn't have the perspective to phrase it succinctly. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 22:46, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Bioinformatics page: Evolutionary and Neural computing

Dear Edgar,

I had incorporated the the terms evolutionary computing and neural computing (and some other relevant edits) on the "Bioinformatics" page of Wikipedia. I would agree that some of my edits that you had either deleted or modified, are not popularly known, even by people who have made a career in this field. In my next edit I would probably move the less known facts to a new section in the bottom of the page under some kind of "Advanced topics" section.

But, neural and evolutionary computing are being continually and rapidly improved by the incorporation of the newly discovered facts of genetic and genomic evolution, and results from omics and system approaches to cognitive and neuroscience. Innumerable research papers are being published in computer science journals whihc either in part or in full develop new algorithms/methods by incorporating new research results from biology (molecular evoltuion and neuroscience).

So, I would be reintroducing the neural and evolutionary computing terms next to DNA computing. Do let me know if you dont think that this would be appropriate.

Unfortunately, wordlwide there is a lot of misconception about what bioinformatics actually is. This is primarily because those who are seniors in this field have only worked on an aspect or two of bioinformatics. Now, as a few people who have their entire education in bioinformatics are getting into the field, hopefully the general defintion and parameters of the field will be more accurately represented on world-forums.

Thank you for your attention. SM

- Shangaheen Madhyam, PhD — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

In general, the purpose of Wikipedia is to cover material that is notable. If something is new in a certain field and unknown, Wikipedia isn't the place for promoting it. Wikipedia should wait for it to become known and part of the field first. But that's not really why I reverted your edit. I was mainly concerned that the changes you were making the the article were non-constructive; for example, changing a link from data mining to two separate links to data and mining is not helpful at all and actually damages the value of linking. Furthermore, providing a links to non-specific targets, such as to the main page of Nature as a reference is completely useless - there is no relevant information at the targeted page. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:31, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Dear Edgar,

Yes, I agree with you on what you say regarding my edits on linking and providing non-specific references. Well, I had my reasons for that. But, now that you have said it, yes, I feel I can improve upon my edits. I agree, to some extent with your first point too, but not with respect to neural and evoltuionary computing. This is because, unlike some of the other fields e.g. pyschosocial computing and parallel and distributed amorphous computing, it is routine for computer scientists, for the last 10 years or more, to incorporate facts discovered in experimental neuroscience and molecular evolution, in the design of genetic algorithms and artififical neural networks. You need not take my word for it, you may wish to verify the authencity of this statement from any senior computer scientist. After reading your message I feel I should change "discover" to "improve and discover". Thank you very much for your suggestions.

-SM — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:37, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Cult Beauty

Hello, Edgar181 … You deleted Cult Beauty (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), but it's back again, and another WP:CSD was removed by another WP:SPA (probably a WP:SOCK) … your intervention would be appreciated. Happy Editing! — (talk · contribs) 15:54, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

P.S. - Check What links here and it looks like four SPA/SOCKs have been working on it. :-) — (talk) 16:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
I deleted the original version of article under criteria WP:CSD#G7 because the original creator blanked the article. The current version probably doesn't meet criteria for speedy deletion (there is some claim to notability in the awards section, and the promotional tone could be fixed by simple editing). If it were nominated for deletion at AFD, I'm not sure which way it would go. As for the possible socking, it appears to me that they are separate people because they don't seem to be working together. Perhaps the blog owner asked readers to create a Wikipedia page on her behalf or something like that. Maybe this is something worth bringing to wider attention at ANI. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
For the record: Sophie3567 (talk · contribs), Aidan3009 (talk · contribs), Jteas (talk · contribs), Phoebef (talk · contribs), Cult Beauty, User:Aidan3009/Cult Beauty, User:Phoebef/Cult Beauty, CultBeauty. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:29, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Looks like Some Other Editor has tagged it as {{Db-spam}}. — (talk) 18:10, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Also JosieCr (talk · contribs), -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:56, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Abdallah daar

We've received OTRS permission; please see here. – Adrignola talk 14:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I replied there. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:42, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

unblock on hold at User talk:Jacobbotjacob

This was quite a while ago, but they have come back and asked to be unblocked. You softblocked them for claiming to be a bot. By my read of the username policy the name is not actually a violation, we normally only block if the name ends in "bot" but for some reason this fellow decided to pretend to be a bot as well, and I would assume that is what made you decide to go ahead and block. I think we can take it as read that they won't do that again, and they have agreed to change their name if that is still an issue. I've placed the request on hold pending comment from you. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:02, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it was the edit summary in which he was claiming to be a bot that led me to soft block the account. I have no objection to unblocking. -- Ed (Edgar181) 02:09, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Block Request

Hello. Edgar181 could you do me a favor and block (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? He keeps on putting up ridiculous information about Mohun Bagan A.C. and Simon Storey who plays for Mohun Bagan A.C. like for example (Storey used to play for "Loser"bourn Victory when really played for Melbourne Victory and he said that Mohun Bagan have a history of losing every single match they play which is hugely not the case. Thank You. Arsenalkid700 (talk) | Contributions 13:56, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply - I've been traveling. It looks like this person has stopped and a block is no longer needed. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:19, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Semi-protect request

Hi there. I've contacted you and asked for help on protecting articles in the past. I've noticed there seems to be a lot of activity on the Bradley Steven Perry bio page. I just rewrote his page yesterday and today I've noticed he appears to be one of the young Disney Channel stars whose page seems to attract a lot of young vandals. I realize the young Disney stars are best known by a young audience, and most of their pages do attract vandalism from youngsters, but, for whatever reason, Perry's page seems to attract more than his fair share of vulgar/libelous edits as can be seen by the edit history for his page which shows a relatively high number of edits relative to the amount of progress his bio page made before I rewrote it yesterday. I was hoping you would consider a semi-protect lock on the page to give the vigilant editors watching it a break and possibly allow them to use their time more productively. Thanks. --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 01:20, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Considering the vandalism to a BLP such as this, semi-protection looks reasonable to me. I have protected it for 3 months. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks once again for your help. I know most young Disney and Nickelodeon stars seem to attract vandalism (more than adult stars, on average), but I've noticed some child/teen stars seem to attract an exceptionally high number of useless and/or offensive edits (I have no idea why). I wasn't watching his page until a couple of days ago when I looked him up and decided the page needed a rewrite, and then within 24 hours I saw his page had already had three undesirable edits, which prompted me to check and find that the page had had over 1,000 edits in the last 17 months (and yet his page was STILL a stub when I rewrote it). Understandably, most young Disney Channel viewers are not familiar with Wikipedia's standards & guidelines, and rarely do they add much useful information, so I'm confident that the semi-protect lock will not be detrimental to his page, but will enable the trustworthy editors watching his page to focus on more constructive pursuits. Thanks again --- Crakkerjakk (talk) 12:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)


As far as I remember, palladium is famous for its bulk absorption of hydrogen, thus are you sure about this? Materialscientist (talk) 12:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Hydrogen is bound to the surface of the palladium, and is not "inside" the solid. The reference used to support the statement in the article specifically refers to "adsorption on palladium". -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:43, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Have a look through that pdf ref. - it is a dummy which has nothing to do with the statement it stands at (catalyst article). The review at the end of the para is more relevant. Surely, hydrogen is also adsorbed on the surface, but look through the "Characteristics" section. Thus I would revert back and remove that reference. Materialscientist (talk) 12:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you are referring to - I don't see a "Characteristics" section in the 2004 Chem. Rev. paper (am I looking at the wrong one?) In any case, please feel free to revert me as you see fit. I think maybe it is more a matter of perspective: a pile of palladium powder will absorb hydrogen when H2 adsorbs onto the surface of individual Pd particles. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:58, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Ah sorry, these Characteristics. I think that statement of 900 times absorption was copied down for hydrogen storage application sake. Materialscientist (talk) 13:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, I see. Reading some of the references in that section, I see claims that the solid metal does in fact absorb the hydrogen, not just adsorbing it to the surface (Theodore Gray says, "H2 molecules can fit into the gaps between the Pd atoms in its crystal structure, causing slight expansion of the metal when this occurs".) So it looks like absorption is the right term. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:11, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar of Diligence Hires.png The Barnstar of Diligence
For adding the infobox and categories to Raphanin. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:42, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm glad to help. -- Ed (Edgar181) 16:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


Edgar181, I have added Ivanovics' (1947) doubts about the practical uses of raphanin. I also added to the external links a site describing Yang's 2005 patent application for detoxifying sulpher (?). He describes the raphanin connection. I am an amateur with no training in Biochemistry, etc. What do you know about the the toxicity of raphanin and the relevance of Yang's patent? Over sixty years have passed since Ivanovics' discovery and doubts. What has happened since? DonaldRichardSands (talk) 17:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Based on my experience, I think it is extremely unlikely that raphinin itself will ever become a drug of have other practical use. A number of similar compounds have been studied in this class of chemicals known as isothiocyanates, but they are seen more as starting points for further research rather than promising medical treatments themselves. I'll take a closer look tomorrow and see what I can turn up in terms of modern research. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:46, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Changing username

Dear Edgar, Thank you for complying to my request of deletion. I'm very new at this, so I'm sorry for the inconvenience. However, I want to start another User Page by the same name, except "Han Luis Cera" instead of "HanLuisCera", and it won't let me because they're too similar, as if the HanLuisCera Page wasn't completely out of the system. I tried changing the User Name before I requested deletion but this is what I read that I should do. Would you please tell me what to do in this case? Thank you very much for your time. Han Luis Cera — Preceding unsigned comment added by HanLuisCera (talkcontribs) 08:23, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple is the page you want. -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:56, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


Hi Ed, I've amended the post you requested to be deleted. Would it be possible to give me advice on how to write this page? The discovery of the Blastomere Like stem Cells is fairly new and I feel should be mentioned in Wikipedia, I have numerous journals about this new type of adult stem cells dicovered by Young et al who have approved Oristem to harvest the stem cell for banking research purposes. These stem cells circulate in blood and are the most naive stem cells to date after the embryonic ones.They have created a bespoke pain free product that I can't help but feel needs to be made aware of. It will be such a shame not to let people know about this service. Let me know what you think. These BLSC were discovered a while before Kucia et al's VSEL and the advantage is that they can be collected from blood. Let me know what you think. You can check this site for a bit more info (Moraga) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tayamoz (talkcontribs) 13:03, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I deleted Oristem because it was written in such a promotional tone that it appeared to be blatant advertisement. If you wish to write about this product, and you think it meets Wikipedia's notability requirements for inclusion (see WP:N) you can rewrite the article in a neutral tone supported by references that are independent of the company that sells the product. I see you have created numerous copies of this article at Talk:Oristem, User:Tayamoz, User talk:Tayamoz, and User:Tayamoz/sandbox all of which seem to have the same problems with promotional tone. I would suggest that you remove all but one of them (User:Tayamoz/sandbox is the best location) and work on that version. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ed,

Thanks a lot for the info, I'm basically new to this and really appreciate your advice. So, you are suggesting that I work on the version (User:Tayamoz/sandbox)? As for the references point you made, I had been looking around wikipedia and found a page about cryo save which does not have references from any other independent company apart from the company's website. Shouldn't the same rule apply here? Thanks for your help.

Yes, I'm suggesting that you work with one copy at User:Tayamoz/sandbox. And I agree that the article Cryo-Save needs independent references too. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:39, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok thanks I'll do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tayamoz (talkcontribs) 23:01, 31 August 2011 (UTC)