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What links are good and what links are not good on the Wiki Leads article? Should I remove Facebook? I do have copies of the books so I can quote from them directly. Thanks, Sarah WNorman (talk) 17:53, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, referencing Facebook should be avoided (that is to say, should not happen), The books are OK, but I do not believe "Private communication." is an appropriate source: there is no way for me, or anyone else, to verify what it supports in the text. OSborn arfcontribs. 17:58, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

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I've reverted myself and put the content back in- I don't suppose I can blame this on my browser messing up? ;) Sorry OSborn arfcontribs. 21:15, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wiki Leads (2nd nomination)

Hi. :) The article was already deleted under WP:CSD#G5. Would you mind if I G7 the AfD, so that if this ever does get an article it will be less confusing nominating it again? :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead with the G7. OSborn arfcontribs. 15:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Done. I'm asking if salting is a good idea; I have no clue who this person is, but it may be helpful in detecting if s/he comes back.:/ --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:25, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Anton Amade de Varkony

Hi Thank you a lot for your contribution to Anton Amade de Varkony. Could you please check what I did and confirm whether it is alright or I should do something more? Best, Grunf (talk) 22:36, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Everything looks good, I changed the heading on "Notes" to be "References" though. OSborn arfcontribs. 23:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anthony Helguera

Doesn't seem to be listed in the AfD log.[1] -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 10:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Whoops, thanks for pointing that out, I've listed it now and added a note to the AfD page. Looks like Twinkle is acting funny with AfDs. OSborn arfcontribs. 13:54, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

regarding deletions from In-Home Tutoring and Home Schooling pages

Hi! I am responding to the message you left for me on my talk page. First, thank you for informing me about Wiki's copy right policy, I'm new and wasn't aware (although that is no excuse). I am the sole author of the tables that I was posting, and have, per Wiki policy, added the necessary copyright language to the home websites so the tables may be posted on Wikipedia. See <a href="">here</a> and <a href="">here</a>. These tables are original content and I feel contribute much to the pages they were originally posted on, as they cleanly and concisely summarize important information. Please let me know if I am in the clear to re-post them. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by JasonHoldEm1234 (talkcontribs) 04:07, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for releasing those works under free licenses and allowing them to be incorporated into Wikipedia. Personally, I am still against adding the content due to two concerns: the first is that you have a conflict of interest here, the websites this content is being sourced (and thus linked to), appear to be your own commercial ventures. (And are those websites considered reliable sources?) The second is about how useful the content is in its current form. I feel that if you worked in this sort of thing in properly cited prose, as opposed to a table, which does break up the flow of the page they would work better.

The real place to discuss this, however, is on the talk pages of the articles you're considering adding this content to. I would recommend asking on, say Talk:Homeschooling, and seeing what other editors say, before adding your content back. OSborn arfcontribs. 04:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I'll discuss this on the talk portion of the applicable pages. I will bring to their attention the inherent conflict of interest, my credentials as an author of this material, and let them decide as to it's usefulness for the applicable pages.JasonHoldEm1234 (talk) 23:46, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


Hi, thank you for your comment on my page. I try to make only minor edits where I believe something is factually incorrect or re-uploading images that were previously uploaded but deleted because I am the actual copyright holder. I have as best a possible tried avoid COI and have no intention of using Wikipedia for advertising, but only for maintaining the truth. My comment on Talk:GRIN Campaign was posted more because I believe the first comment was written immaturely from someone with a personal connection to the members of the campaign, I'm trying to stop rumor and teenage behavior from distorting facts and fundamentally the truth. Thank you for advice and I shall avoid editing the topic in the future. RockClaudiaGB (talk) 17:13, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

March 2011

Hi OSborn, thank you for your talk message! I was wondering if you could look at this page <> in my sandbox and help make some suggestions. Then I was thinking to move it into place. I see now that I should have done this first before I added it to the list! Thx Les733 (talk) 17:36, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

It looks pretty good, only a few points: the first is that personally I would write some of it a bit differently, avoiding the word "their", stuff like that. The other is that some of the references look a little weak- it's not clear how reliable, say, is. (Also a technical note- you're listing the date of publication as the "Retrieved" date- that's the date that you, or some other editor, looked at the page.) I would take a look at those issues before you move the article into place. If you have any questions about that feel free to ask. OSborn arfcontribs. 19:36, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi OSborn. Thank you for your suggestions. This is really helpful. I'll work on it a bit more and get back to you with questions. Also, I was wondering, where do you find how you can 'archive' your talk pages. I'd like to work on Wikipedia a bit more this summer. Thx for your help. Les733 (talk) 18:36, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Responded over at your talk. OSborn arfcontribs. 20:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks so much for all your help and post. Ok, going to move my article into place, and we'll see what happens. Thanks again. Les733 (talk) 05:01, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

regarding deletion template on wiki article "PLANTA Project"

Hello, you suggested on my talk page and in the template on the wiki article that the article should get additional reliable references. Since then, the article has be improved, several reliable references of wellknown pm experts have been added. No further person wrote in the deletion discussion that the article should be deleted. So, don't you think we could accept it now as a valuable source of information? If you think, that there is still something missing in the article, please let me know on my talk page. Thank you Projektleiter (talk) 07:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the Notability problem with the page Apollo (software)

(Posting both here and in Apollo (software)'s discussion page -- sorry about the cross-posting, wasn't sure where the right spot was!)

Hey Osborn, I just noticed the Notability tag in the Apollo page. I was wondering if this list of reviews from these (definitely notable) sites, including Bright_Hub, are enough to make the article "notable":

In the software world, especially in Project Management, Apollo is definitely notable. Applicom, its maker, definitely isn't! Apollo is in the same field as 5pm, [Assembla]], Basecamp (software), Bontq, BrightWork (software), Central Desktop, Celebron, Clarizen.

Thank you! Tony Mobily (talk) 02:29, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

responded at Talk:Apollo (software). OSborn arfcontribs. 05:33, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Regarding deletion review of The Library Corporation (TLC)

Hello Osborn. Thank you for your review of The Library Corporation (TLC) page. I will address your points of contention at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Library Corporation (TLC). I am hoping we can reach an amicable resolution.

Aside from that, I am curious about your rationale for deleting four external links from The Library Corporation (TLC) page. These were links to TLC's Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, and YouTube pages. With the dominance of social media in today's society, I disagree that these are unnecessary links. Also, it is easy to find precedent for social media links on other Wikipedia pages, including Ford, Delta Air Lines, and Shenandoah Valley Music Festival. I have not undone your edits because I do not want my objection to be perceived as an editing war, but I would like justification and proper citation for your decision. Please post your response at Talk:The Library Corporation (TLC).

Thank you. Jessdfacts (talk) 14:25, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi, social media websites are on the list of external links to avoid - other pages including them are doing the wrong thing. OSborn arfcontribs. 17:53, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
This is my first Wikipedia article and I was not aware of that policy. Thanks for the clarification. Jessdfacts (talk) 20:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

August 2011 Wikification Drive

Deceased hosters

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moved here

thanks! OSborn arfcontribs. 18:59, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

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How can one ensure that the page is neutral? Can you please provide some tips? Thanks! ValStepanova (talk) 15:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC)Val Stepanova

Hi, as you have conflict of interest, you should avoid editing the page you could ask another, uninvolved editor to work on the page, but I would recommend against editing the page yourself. This is part of Wikipedia's policy of neutrality. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. OSborn arfcontribs. 20:02, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Do help me understand why there is a conflict of interest. Is it because I am the main editor of the page or is there another reason? Do let me know. ValStepanova (talk) 09:54, 12 October 2011 (UTC)Val Stepanova

It is because you have monetary connection to the subject of the article, a quick web search shows that you are evidently the marketing manager for, and Wikipedia is not for advertising. OSborn arfcontribs. 15:22, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

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Mexifornia clothing

Back in February, you PRODded this and I deleted it. Undeletion has been requested, or rather demanded at my talk page, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it and now notify you in case you wish to take it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:06, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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Edits Removed

Hi.I saw you removed my edits on the Going Commando article. Can you tell me why? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billyheidt (talkcontribs) 23:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I reverted your edits to Going commando because they appeared to only be advertising a brand of underwear. (Using the terms popularity as a coatrack) OSborn arfcontribs. 23:28, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


Hi. I saw you removed my edits in Can you tell me why? I've just added a new project in the list. Gimenewtron (talk) 20:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I reverted these edits because you listed the project as an external link, rather than as an internal "bluelink" (a link to an existing Wikipedia page.) When you edit that page, there's a message at the top that reads in part:
"Only place entries here that are links to actual Wikipedia articles about notable project management software."
Notable is a key word here, the concept of "notability" is how Wikipedia editors decide what subjects should and should not be added to Wikipedia. OSborn arfcontribs. 21:27, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Friend Bet

Thanks for fixing the title. It wasn't formatting right when I attempted to do so, for some reason. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

By default in MediaWiki, all article names have a capitalized first letter. To work around this, a template {{lowercase}} exists which can be placed in an article to force the first letter lowercase, so in the future if the article has a lower case first letter looking for that template is a good bet to find the answer. OSborn arfcontribs. 04:15, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. I didn't add this template, but it formatted with a lower case first letter anyway. Strange. Northamerica1000(talk) 04:20, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
The template was in the article before you moved it, so it kept the lower case letter when it moved. OSborn arfcontribs. 04:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, good to know for future reference. Happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 04:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

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New Pages update

Hey OSborn/Archive 2 :). A quick update on how things are going with the New Page Triage/New Pages Feed project. As the enwiki page notes, the project is divided into two chunks: the "list view" (essentially an updated version of Special:NewPages) and the "article view", a view you'll be presented with when you open up individual articles that contains a toolbar with lots of options to interact with the page - patrolling it, adding maintenance tags, nominating it for deletion, so on.

On the list view front, we're pretty much done! We tried deploying it to enwiki, in line with our Engagement Strategy on Wednesday, but ran into bugs and had to reschedule - the same happened on Thursday :(. We've queued a new deployment for Monday PST, and hopefully that one will go better. If it does, the software will be ready to play around with and test by the following week! :).

On the article view front, the developers are doing some fantastic work designing the toolbar, which we're calling the "curation bar"; you can see a mockup here. A stripped-down version of this should be ready to deploy fairly soon after the list view is; I'm afraid I don't have precise dates yet. When I have more info, or can unleash everyone to test the list view, I'll let you know :). As always, any questions to the talkpage for the project or mine. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 23:40, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

War on Women

I see you participated in last month's AfD for "War on Women"; that article was reinstated yesterday.--24dot (talk) 17:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Quick Note, War on Women has been renominated for Deletion-- (talk) 19:22, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/War_on_Women_(2nd_nomination)-- (talk) 12:29, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I've been following that AfD for some time now; thanks for letting me know. OSborn arfcontribs. 18:07, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

New Page Triage prototype released

Hey OSborn! We've finally finished the NPT prototype and deployed it on enwiki. We'll be holding an office hours session on the 16th at 21:00 in #wikimedia-office to show it off, get feedback and plot future developments - hope to see you there! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 03:49, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

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