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Proposed deletion of Rigard van Klooster

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European Track Championships

Hey, those earlier championships were under-23 and junior ones. Since 2010 there are the elite ones and those articles are about them. You can create those articles for the junior and u-23 winners if you want. 2010 European Track Championships (under-23 & junior) and so on are the ones you are looking for. Kante4 (talk) 16:52, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey, before 2010 at the European "junior" track championships, there was held one elite event: the Omnium for women's. As example I take the year 2008. See the website of the UCI (UCI website: 2008 omnium session for Women's), and cyclingarchives (cyclingarchives: omnium for Women's). Because of that you won't find the 2008 omnium results on the uec-federation.eu between the U23 events (2008 U23 events)Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 17:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

The uec said that 2010 was the first "official" EC held and also "In 2010 the ECU instigated a huge overhall of how cyclists qualify for the Olympic Games. As a result, the European Championships became an event for the elite level of European cyclists." Kante4 (talk) 18:15, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes it was the first official European Elite Track Championships. But not the first official European Track Championship. The 2008 European Track Championships (for U23 and juniors) was also official, and sanctioned by the uec. Where you found that the uec said that 2010 was the first offical EC?

Need to look for the quite or whatever. Honestly, i don't care really enough about that. I just thought that 2010 being the first elite one should enough to just have those winners on those articles. Makes the most sense, 3 editions = 3 winners... Kante4 (talk) 18:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I splitted the omnium events in 3. In omnium endurance, omnium sprint and (the new) omnium Olympic. The old omnium's are called omnium endurance and omnium sprint. What do you think of it?Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 19:05, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Good job. Kante4 (talk) 19:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

RE: van Kerkhof

Unfortunately, none of them is reliable, because they are blogs. I'm not denying they may be a couple, but considering what happened with Jodie Foster last month, we need a reference in which she says "I'm [sexuality]". Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 01:22, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Years in road cycling infobox

Hi Sander. About the infobox you created, I can't seem to get my head around why on the women's pages, the first two lines (below the image) are not the same size (the line for the women is bigger), and on the men's pages the two lines are the same size. It's not really important, but I think it would be better if it was the same. So, if you can have a look and "fix" that, it would be good

Anyway, thanks for the infobox, it's a good addition A Dog With No Name (talk) 08:46, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, A Dog With No Name! At first, thank you for checking and improving the changes I made to the pages! I appreciate that! Nice that you like the infobox, it's the first infobox I made :). I just checked the 'problem' with the infobox and I see what happens. When you go the a men's page the men's line becomes bold and vice versa. The word women has two more letters than men so when it becomes bold it looks much bigger. I made both lines bold so now the sizes won't change anymore.

Just to let you know, within the pages of years in road cycling I changed a lot of things. However, don't be scared to revert or change the adjustments (but I think you are not).

Thank you! Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 09:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Ah, the word is longer, I hadn't though of that! Thanks for "fixing" it. Yep, no problem, glad to help you out on the years in road cycling articles, and you've already considerably improved them (especially the women ones) :). I would contribute more, but at the moment I don't have much time... A Dog With No Name (talk) 18:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Image in templates?

Hello Sander.

Thanks for adding the images in the field hockey team rosters articles. Have you contemplated putting them in the templates instead? They could be relevant in any article transcluding the templates. Each template is trancluded at least from two articles: the centralized team roster article, and the article on the "country at the games" article.

See for instance Volleyball at the 2008 Summer Olympics – Men's team rosters.

Regards.

HandsomeFella (talk) 14:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi HandsomeFella,

Nice! I didn't think about that. I've done it! Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Shoshone Continuation High School

I've removed the deletion template from this article, as you did not identify your reasons for wanting the article deleted. Have a look at WP:AFDHOWTO for the complete steps (including rationale) for nominating an article for AFD - or, if you prefer, give me the rationale and I'll complete the process for you. Whatever works. Thanks, UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 16:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi, UltraExactZZ, I placed it again with the rationale this time.Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 11:37, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that looks fine - though some editors might object to using the issues template as the rationale, I think it covers the bases pretty well. Have you given any thought to a redirect to the school district or to Death Valley Academy? UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 12:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Guess that redlink answers that. UltraExactZZ ^Said ~ Did 12:06, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Cycling at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Women's road time trial for deletion

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dyk nomination help

Hi, thanks for your comment about the picture at Template:Did you know nominations/Ffordd Pen Llech. I like the idea of squaring it off from the bottom, are you able to tell me how to do it? The file is currently hosted at en.wikipedia and I imported it under a ccbysa2.0 licence from geograph. Equally if you would like to just do it you have my full support. Thanks. Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 22:04, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, below the image there is a link with "upload a new version of this file". I just cropped the image (in paint), and uploaded it. Just take a look here. If you want to have it different you can just do it yourself! Thanks for coming by, Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 08:54, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Six Days of Amsterdam

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DYK for Six Days of Amsterdam

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Your GA nomination of 2008 UCI Track Cycling World Championships – Women's scratch

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1906 Intercalated Games

Nice work on all things related to these games. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:36, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 2013 Specialized–lululemon season

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DYK for Floortje Mackaij

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World Championship Track Cycling 1958-2009 reference

for UCI Track Cycling World Championships pages.

this address seems to be dead http://www.bikecult.com/bikecultbook/sports_trackWorlds2.html

this address might be better http://www.bikecult.com/bikecultbook/sports_trackWorlds.html

thanks--Gav111 (talk) 21:47, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Gav111, thank you for this, I wasn't aware of it! Also thanks for fixing all the created pages. For the next pages I'll use the correct link. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 08:24, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately I've deleted the word amateur out of most of the links for amateur sprint, amateur points race and amateur individual pursuit for UCI Track Cycling World Championships 1965 to 1991, which means amateur races link to professional results for those 3 races. So I've made a bit of a mess. Sorry about that. --Gav111 (talk) 10:42, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Gav111, it doesn't matter that much. On the French page are the professional and amatueur results listed on 1 page. So I solved it temporary this way, see: UCI Track Cycling World Championships – Men's sprint. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 10:48, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks very much for solving the problem.

I think the bike cult link looks better with the website listed after it. But its a minor thing. My first comment about this was poorly thought out. My apologies Gav111 (talk) 17:31, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Gav111, I now use for the reference: <ref>{{cite web|title=Track Cycling World Championships 2014 to 1893|url=http://www.bikecult.com/bikecultbook/sports_trackWorlds.html |publisher=bikecult.com|accessdate=21 November 2014}}</ref>. Thanks for the comments, Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 08:46, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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FINA

Hey, thanks. ;) Also for adding the schedule. Kante4 (talk) 16:11, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Aleksey Markov listed at Redirects for discussion

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re: Deleting uknown results

Hi. I've removed them as they fail WP:V. The country data seems to be pulled from the same source to fill those articles. Maybe move the info to the talkpage, as updated results from the early Olympics are found from time to time. The difference between the Shooting at the 1920 Summer Olympics – Men's 50 metre small-bore rifle article and the other one is that the scores are unknown, not the competitors. Sports Ref confirms the unknown scores and verifies who competed (in that event) too. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 12:24, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, thanks for your fast response. Yes it's clear to me. However, after a small research I think I understand why these persons were listed on the page. The Men's team free rifle event uses the scores of the Men's 300 metre free rifle, three positions event (summing the scores of 5 people from each nation). Because these events were contested concurrently the people and nations that are listed in the Men's team free rifle event must have competed automatically in the Men's 300 metre free rifle, three positions. I'll add this note later on the wiki page. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 13:18, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I've also sent an email to sports-reference.com about this. I'll drop a message when they've replied. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 13:48, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. SR are pretty good at getting back to people. I've emailed them a few times in the past and they've always been helpful. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 19:49, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Result formatting

Hi Sander,

Just wonder if you have anything to contribute to the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling#Results formatting consensus discussion. You generate a large number of articles, so I'd like to know your thoughts regarding the victory formatting sections of team articles. We've currently got 16 of the 17 world tour team articles in one format, and another editor insists on changing one (EF Education–EasyPost) to a different one. Thanks. XyZAn (talk) 19:48, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi XyZAn, oww I see it's becoming quite a fight there! I gave my opinion and will mix me in the discussion. Thanks for letting me know. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 11:55, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Much appreciated Sander, I'm trying to avoid any arguments and just generate reasonable discussion. How many view points do we need for a consensus decision?XyZAn (talk) 11:58, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Je suis Charlie demonstrations

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Hi OwenBlacker, thank you for leaving a message. Good job to ask people about uploading images! Yes I'm from the Netherlands. At this moment I don't know someone who went to one of the demonstrations. There were also demonstrations in multiple other cities in the Netherlands. If I get some images, I'll upload them. I know how to do, I uploaded >500 images already :). Thanks! Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 09:40, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you :o) — OwenBlacker (Talk) 13:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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Your thoughts..

Hi Sander,

I'd appreciate your input and thoughts here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling#UCI Point system/rankings change (if you have the time)

Cheers, XyZAn (talk) 21:35, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Eeekster, thanks for letting me know! I fully completed the details about the file, including why this file is not replaceable, and added the disputed template. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 23:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

New articles

Hi Sander, great work on the new articles for the World champs, can't believe how much you've done so quickly! Any chance you can go through the talk pages for the pages and tag them with

and do it for ones you're about to make - then I'll go through and tag the quality/importance. Thanks XyZAn (talk) 18:48, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi XyZAn, thanks, yes it's going really well with the country pages and all the femmale cyclist who competed. Of course I can tag all the pages. I think all the pages in the catgories Category:Nations at the 2012 UCI Road World Championships, Category:Nations at the 2013 UCI Road World Championships and Category:Nations at the 2014 UCI Road World Championships are tagged with the cycling tag. I do it it's just by copy and pasting so, tagging for quality and importance is no extra time. I tagged them with stub quality (not much prose, only tables) and low importance. If you want to tag them differently (list, or start class) just say it, and I'll do it :). Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 19:52, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem Sander, your assessment of quality/importance is what I would have done, I'm just trying to reduce the number on unassessed articles on the project. XyZAn (talk) 21:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Cyclist up for deletion

Hi Sander. Appreicate your thoughts on this AfD. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:19, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

With plessure :) Thanks for asking! Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 11:21, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll let the AfD run its course, then I think it's time WP:NCYC got updated. I'll make some proposals on WT:CYC about a week from now. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 13:00, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Just passing through, but I agree with Lugnuts, we need a separate notability guide for women's cycling vs mens cycling - essentially a female rider should become notable if they fulfil one of the following or a combination of;

a) they ride for a UCI womens team

b) they ride for a non-uci womens team but have won a UCI ranked race

c) they have ridden in the world championships or olympic games

XyZAn (talk) 18:56, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Those are exactly the sort of things I had I mind, XyZAn. I'll have something ready for WT:CYC in a few days for further input, and hopefully a consensus can be reached without too many issues! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 19:14, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

That will be great! I totally agree XyZAn and Lugnuts. And maybe with the representation/results of cyclists at championships and Games we can have the same rules for all cycling disciplines (track cycling, cyclo cross etc.)? Maybe we can further think about:

c2) Riders who represented their nation at other larger Games, like the Commonwealth games and European Games. See Category:Cycling at multi-sport events.

d) junior medalists at the World Championships

e) junior? and under-23 medalists at the European Road Championships, European Cyclo-cross Championships, UEC European Track Championships (under-23 & junior)

e2) all participants at the European Track Championships?

f) Medalists at national championships

Great work, Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 20:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah something like that, ideally you need to have mens separate from women separate from junior/U23 with over-riding rules ie:-

Male or female cyclist is notable if;

Have competed at world championship/ olympic games or,

Have won a medal at Continental games (euro/africa/oceania etc)/ other major international games (Commonwealths, Asian, etc) or,

Have won at least one event in one national championship

Male;

Have won a UCI ranked race or,

Have ridden in at least one GT or,

Ride for a WT Team

Female;

Ride for a UCI Womens team or,

Have won a UCI ranked race

U23 & juniors;

Have ridden in world championships or,

Have medalled continental championships or,

Have won a UCI ranked race or,

Have won an event in their national championships

XyZAn (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Great! I think I would argue (bold text is added, deleted text striked through)

Male or female cyclist is notable if;

Have competed at world championship/ olympic games / paralympic games or,

Have won a medal Top 10 at Continental games championships (euro/africa/oceania/ etc)/ other major international games (Commonwealths, Asian, Universiade, etc), or,

Have won a medal in at least one event in one national championship or,

Have won a medal at smaller international games/championships (world university cycling championships/Pan Arab Games/Southeast Asian Games etc) or

Is the current/former national record holder in a cycling discipline

Male;

Have won a UCI ranked race or,

Have ridden in at least one GT or,

Ride for a WT Team

Female;

Ride for a UCI Womens team or,

Have won a UCI ranked race

U23 & juniors;

Have riddenTop 10 in world championships or Youth Olympics‎ or,

Have medalled continental championships or,

Have won a UCI ranked race or,

Have won as an U23 rider an event in their national championships (note: there are far too many junior categories)

Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 22:02, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

UCI

Hey, thanks and i will do that. Kante4 (talk) 15:23, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Awesome work at the main and subarticles. Now that i'm home i see that. ;) Kante4 (talk) 16:29, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Kante4, thanks! I'm only struggling how to make the results sections on the the country pages. As you update the results with the speed of light, do you know how you can make the results sections for track cycling on nation pages? As for instance done at Great Britain at the 2012 Summer Olympics#Track. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 16:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I would just copy/paste it and change names/links. Kante4 (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Sander. For info, at the 2015 UCI Track Cycling World Championships looks like Uzbekistan had a rider, per the men's omnium. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 20:27, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, thanks for letting me know! I'll make the nation page tomorrow and will add all the results in on the nation pages next week. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 20:30, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Ct template

I don't know how I've missed this one, but can you explain to me why have you changed the workings of the Template:Ct when no discussion has took place here. Changes of this scale can't be done without an overall consensus. I don't think it should have been done and recommended you revert all the changes. Perhaps bring this discussion up again. BaldBoris 02:24, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Boris, Yes I'll do that and reply next week. Sorry have not much time this weekend! Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 22:47, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi BaldBoris, I requested it on the talk page of the Wiki Cycling project in July 2014. On 22 July 2014 I requested the change and made the changed in August 2014. You can see it Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling/Archive 11#Change request 'ct' template. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 09:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

This is also done (without a template) on the French wiki, see for instance fr:Circuit Het Nieuwsblad 2015 Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 22:33, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I just wonder why you've changed something that has worked fine for years? No one replied to you proposition, which didn't give you the green light to go ahead with it. For me it's obvious that it doesn't work. The user clicks the link Team Sky, expecting Team Sky, but is taken to 2010 Team Sky season. How can this be an improvement? It's messed up so many pages. On Bradley Wiggins I've linked the first mention of teams, now that means nothing as it goes to the season instead. This issue must be the same on 1000s of pages. Users want to go to the team's main page, not sub pages which mostly have a list of results. Also I've had to fix Template:UCI ProTeams as the links no longer went to the teams' main page. BaldBoris 00:53, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi BaldBoris, the template with a year indication says something about the team in that season. By clicking on the link you want to know more, most of the time about the team in that year., With going to the season page you find direct all that information from that year, or it's easy to go the general team page. On Wikipedia many links goes to the page that is the most dirct page for that link. If you click on the page 2015 in men's road cycling at the Tour Down Under link, you go to sub page 2015 Tour Down Under and not to Tour Down Under. If you click on a country link at a page about the 2012 Olympics, it's not linked to the COUNTRY at the Olympics page but to the subpage COUNTRY at the 2012 Summer Olympics page. I don't see the problem in Template:UCI WorldTeams. I see the problem you're mentioning is in the infobox of rider with the team listing, for that I can make a parameter such as seasonpage=no. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 09:01, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

I copied the discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling#CT template linking to season pages. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 09:07, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

ISU

Hey, for your interest 2015 World Allround Speed Skating Championships was created by me earlier. Somehow the link to the countries using "WWSC" does not link to the country pages... Kante4 (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

• oww, I did not create them yet. I will do it. I will see if I have time tomorrow, otherwise Monday. The links will benome redirects to the page NATION at the 2015 speed skating world championships#world allround speed skating championships. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 23:19, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

No hurry, was just not sure why they weren't working. I figured out that it would become redirects but wasn't sure how to edit the template so i did not wanted to mess it up. ;) Kante4 (talk) 23:31, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I wont hurry talk ;). However, I started creating the redirects. I will update the pages next week! Thanks for creating and updating all the results pages!! Good night for now :) Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 23:57, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Ok good work and thanks. Dito. Kante4 (talk) 00:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Women's cycling

Hi Sander. Following on from the results template discussion, I notice that this page is largely incomplete. I'm happy to help fill in the teams, but I also notice that the links citing the teams seem to be dead. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 14:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, yes I see. Yesterday I created Template:Cyclist data 2015 with data (nation and team) of all women who are currently in the UCI women's ranking (so however not all cyclist, but I reckon most of the UCI women's teams riders). I think I must be able to get these riders in a table to have a good start. The official list of riders can be found on UCI website, but of course also on Procyclingstats or cyclngarchives. But let's see what I can get first easily from the data template :). Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 14:25, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

::Here is a (incomplete!) list of riders User:Sander.v.Ginkel/sandbox/2015women. I can sort them differently or put them in other kind of tables. So I can make a table for every team. However the tables won't be complete and date of birth are not listed. What do you think? Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 14:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

I found a complete list of all UCI registered riders on the UCI website. I filtered out the men's and team managers etc. and got so all UCI Women's teams riders, see User:Sander.v.Ginkel/sandbox/2015women. Only one thing, the date of birth is not listed. It is in the license number, but I don't know how to get it out of it. I'll try to write a script so we can use the Template:birth date and age2. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 15:28, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Find on the page User:Sander.v.Ginkel/sandbox/2015women the code for the templates. Three things needs to be done

• The DLT in template=DLT2015riders}} has to be replaced by the 3 letter code behind '{{Cycling squad start}}' (and that becomes the name of the template).
• Halfway the list of cyclist of each team '{{Cycling squad mid}}' should be placed.
• Creating the templates, and placing it on List of 2015 UCI Women's Teams and riders, team pages etc.

Feel free to do it :), otherwise I'll do it another time (won't be this week). Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 16:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, I completed the List of 2015 UCI Women's Teams and riders page. I even found some pictures :) Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 22:53, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Nice work, as always, Sander. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 11:00, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Vlaanderen-Capri Sonne-T-Interim

FYI... you did a redirect to itself. Bgwhite (talk) 06:37, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

• Whoops, that's an error. Thanks for reporting! Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 08:48, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Something to cast your eyes across

Hi Sander. Appreciate your comments on this if you have time. I think this one is sorted. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 20:49, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Of course! Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 22:57, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Maybe a stupid question(!), but what's the difference between UCI Professional Continental and UCI World Tour cyclists? I assume the former is a level below the World Tour? Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:48, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, I'm also not that much into men's road cycling. But what I know: the highest level racing competition is the UCI World Tour and below that are the UCI Continental Circuits. The highest levels teams are the UCI WorldTeams (or before 2015 UCI ProTeams) and below that are the UCI Professional Continental and Continental teams. In the UCI World Tour competes riders from the UCI WorldTeams, but UCI Continental Teams could be invited. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 09:13, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hey, on Phone right now. Just quick. I blank it because it takes useless space in my opinion and country links, birth places should not be in the intro. Any more questions will be answered tomorrow as i am not home. Thanks for creating. ;-) Kante4 (talk) 19:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

IAAF

Great work in creating lots of missing biographies. Looks like we had the same idea! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 12:38, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I think I'm done for the 2015 edition. I was working on each event on the days of the individual finals. Feel free to finish off any outstanding red links. I've got the 2013 on my to-do list, so if you want to start with 2011 and we'll both get them done. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 12:41, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

OK Lugnuts, thanks for your quick response. I'll do so! Later on I'll go back to 2011 :). Also planning to create the diverss and water polo players at the former world aquatic championships. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 12:47, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Etimoni Timuani

Hi. Are you sure the footballer and the athlete are not the same person? The birth dates are quite similar 14.8.1991 vs 14.10.1991 and I suppose one could be a typo. There is an image of the footballer in Etimoni Timuani (footballer) as well as here, while there are some of the athlete at iaaf and pacific games. I think they are similar, but not able to decide conclusively. What do you think? --Wikijens (talk) 09:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

• Good point Wikijens. And I think you're right. I will take a look at it and merge the articles! Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 10:07, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject templates

Hi, please don't guess the names of WikiProject templates - I've just had to fix twelve of your edits which were all redlinks. To avoid these problems, please preview your edits before saving. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:46, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Redrose64, Yes I see. The problem is that most of the countries have their own WikiProject, and so I wrote the wikiprojects with the nation name.. II don't think it is wrong to have it like I did, but a redirect should be made to the appropriate WikiProject. I think that would make it also easier for future Talk pages. Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 07:13, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

A redirect wouldn't work. This is because redirects pass everything through unchanged, they cannot add or modify parameters, so it wouldn't set the specific task force/work group parameter. Consider for example this edit, where I altered {{WikiProject Anguilla|class=stub|importance=low}} to {{WikiProject Caribbean|Anguilla=yes|class=stub|importance=|Anguilla-importance=low}} - this causes the WikiProject Caribbean template to display "This article is supported by the Anguilla work group", and also populates Category:Stub-Class Anguilla articles, Category:Low-importance Anguilla articles, and Category:Anguilla articles. If instead I had created a redirect at Template:WikiProject Anguilla consisting of #REDIRECT [[Template:WikiProject Caribbean]], the "Anguilla work group" message would not be shown, and those three categories would not have been populated.

If you don't know the correct WikiProject template to use for a particular country, have a look at the talk page for the country itself - for example, at Talk:Anguilla I find {{WikiProject Caribbean|class=b|importance=Top|Anguilla=yes|Anguilla-importance=Top}} so you could copy that, amending the parameter values as appropriate. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:03, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I see Redrose64! i'll take care of it. Thank you for letting me know! Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 09:25, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Glad to see you back (?)

Hi Sander, not sure if you took a bit of break but I was glad to see you back creating articles!! XyZAn (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi XyZAn, after going through my talk page I see I never responded to you... Whoops.. Sorry for that. I now the message and thought I responded but I haven't. Yes I was away for a while (finishing PhD and some other things) but yes I'm fully back since :) . Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 06:25, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

re:2015 cycling biographies

Hi Sander - thanks for the heads-up. I'll be back in cycling mode shortly, now that the World Championships are nearly here! Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 13:23, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Great work (as always) with the world champ articles. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 08:02, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Lugnuts. You with creating all the cyclist pages. I saw you did already almost all of the riders of the UCI Women's Teams and the riders of the TTT within minutes :). Sander.v.Ginkel ^{(Je suis Charlie)} 08:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

No problem! :D Let me know when the start list for the women's road race is out, and I'll go through that too, although I suspect most of it will be blue. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 11:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Lugnuts, nice! But I also think most of the riders will already be 'blue'. The startlist can be found here, but don't have time to make the table now. I was also preparing for the remaining riders of the team time trial and the UCI teams to make a page. However because I have not the time to create them now, feel free to do so! I did already some work (see below) :)

Twenty16 presented by Sho-Air (Template:T162015riders)

• Leah Thomas 1, 2 File:Richmond 2015 UCI (20924948314).jpg
• Allison Arensman (19 March 1994)
• Jessica Cerra (1 May 1982)
• Amber Gaffney (27 Decenber 1982)

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• Julie Emmerman (09 April 1976) 1, 2 File:Richmond 2015 UCI (21547898925).jpg

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• Joanne Hogan / Jo Hogan: (9 June 1982) 1, 2

Vaiano Fondriest (Template:VAI2015riders)

• Allison Elizabeth Linnell / Allison Linnell (2 May 1992) 1, 2 Official website

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Hi! You add to the Category:European Games competitors for Turkey to some articles, which are already under the Category:European Games bronze medalists for Turkey, which in turn part of the former parent category. Your rationale would be valid only if the sportsperson would have taken part at another issue of the European Games without winning a medal. However, this is not case yet. The added category is definitely redundant. Or, can you point a WP rule to me so that I know better. Thanks. --CeeGee 08:23, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi CeeGee, I see your point. And in fact it is redundant. However, this is the way how Games competitors are catagorized. For instance all the competitors in Category:Commonwealth Games medallists for Wales‎ are also in Category:Commonwealth Games competitors for Wales (also for all the other nations). This is also for all the other continental Games: for instance all competitors in Category:Pan American Games medalists for Canada‎ are also in Category:Pan American Games competitors for Canada. So if you're looking for an competitor from a certain country, you don't have to search also in the Gold, Silver and Bronze categories to know if he has participated. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 08:35, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

OK! Someone starts an ununderstandable way, and many follow. --CeeGee 09:11, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Niceguyedc, Thanks for your message. I'll take a look at it a bit later (am now in a plane ;) )Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 13:25, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Niceguyedc, I see the problem, but I don't know how that is possible. I created the document page of the template so it's a bit more clear what the template does. Sander.v.Ginkel ^(Talk) 19:49, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

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