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RETIRED, Extremely Dangerous

"What I do have is a very particular set of skills, skills I have acquired over a very long career." as of July 2014

Preparing for departure

This is setting context for all notes that might appear in the interim. (Le Prof)

Scabeba posting

Please do not edit my edits on the buddy rich page...I am his daughter and know a lot more about him than you. Leave it alone!!!

Posting traced to Scabeba, and cordial reply left; attribution of edits to me was mistaken. (Le Prof)

Thanks for your note

I appreciate your kindness and wish you well on your retirement. I highly recommend it! I retired last October and have resisted making "plans" because I just want to let this next chapter open on its own. My husband and son are both physicists working on the ATLAS experiment at CERN that announced the Higgs Boson last July. Like you, they both have sought opportunities to explain scientific subjects to the general public, but it's a steep climb. Best, Grand'mere Eugene — Preceding undated comment added 04:17, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank You :)

Thank you for all your advice. I will be sure to follow up on EVERYTHING. It's a great start for me to finally get some usable guidance.Lgkkitkat (talk) 08:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for

Le Prof, Thank you for the compliments on my userpage art and hometown! Here's hoping that you're having a better day today and thank you for the kind words! ^{Market St.⧏} _{⧐ Diamond Way} 09:48, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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that with a little looking, even close to you (@Doc James), you'd see we are on the same side of the secondary referencing principle. See here, in your Talk, for our shared conviction on secondary sources… [1]. And here for guidance given new editors on the same, [2] and [3] and affirmation for how I do it (see also Barnstar above it); And then for the articles I am working on, see [4] (this section only, vis-a-vis referencing), and [5] (note no refs. in lede, because all material mirrored and ref'd in main body), and for an article in process (6 of 13 secondary, remaining primaries take from secondaries, and no bare URLs, etc., [6]. And see here for an invited analysis of referencing at an article: [7], at request of another editor, followed by 30 day wait since not my area of expertise, then by posting of tags. I could go on forever. This is not something we disagree about. I am sad we had to have this falling out over this apparent issue. Le PRof Leprof 7272 (talk) 03:42, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Glad to hear that we agree on the importance of secondary sources. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 22:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Substituted alcohols

I just started Substituted alcohols but It needs improvement from a chemist (see Talk:Substituted_alcohols). I also started Alcohol (drugs) recently, and Alternative psychoactive alcohol use long time ago. --David Hedlund (talk) 02:30, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

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has not received any new messages from you, can you please quote the text for me as I cannot find anything from you by searching for "28 June" and "19 June". --David Hedlund (talk) 11:37, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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Cochrane

Hey Leprof, could you please fill out this form so I can process your request for Cochrane access? Nikkimaria (talk) 17:54, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Ping. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:52, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Apology

You stepped into a mine field. I blew up. I'm sorry. This was an extraordinarily difficult interaction and the person involved exhibited some of the worst behavior I have encountered as an editor. We spent thousands of words debating a single sentence in which Bob was clearly defying consensus by every means in his disposal without any regard for the rules whatsoever. I'm not capable of discussing this issue rationally, so it will be a lot easier for me if we don't rehash that episode. If you can accept that I'll appreciate it. Formerly 98 (talk)

Response made at editor's talk page. All good. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 21:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Paracetamol and asthma

Hi Le Prof, I agree with your assessment that the important thing regarding the paracetamol article is getting the content accurate [8]. Considering request to stay off the editor in question’s talk page [9], I’ll discuss content related concerns here. [Content already appearing here, [10].], deleted. Le Prof.] On the behavioral issues raised, I disagree with many of the statements made regarding me personally, but one good thing about WP is everything is documented. Here are all the relevant discussions, if you are at all interested in any of that: [11], [12], [13]. To tell you the truth, the edits on the paracetamol article were actually my first edits ever on WP, and I was surprised by what I encountered from the editor in question and a few others. His statement that I was blocked is accurate. I was reverted then later blocked by an involved admin and stated reason was “copyright violation”, but then I was still reverted when significantly reworded to remove any hint of copyright violation, so this was confusing for a new editor. I was disappointed by the editor in question’s lack of response to your statement regarding refraining from threatening discipline action/sanctions during important debates. I was driven away from that debate and the article by his threat, and I was almost driven away from WP entirely by earlier fiasco. I’m still interested in improving the paracetamol article, but honestly, I’m concerned regarding associated threats and concerned that attempts to improve article would result in a non-productive time sink, and unfortunately my time on WP is limited. Thanks again for addressing this concern with the editor who made the threat. Regards.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 01:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Discussion redirected to article talk pages, and personal response made at this editor's Talk page. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:37, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Alcohol and health

Hello, Leprof! I'm trying to remember: were you one of the people who dealt with the alcohol related articles created by David Hedlund? I can't remember who all contributed to fixing the "Alcohol (drug)" and similar articles, and I can't go back and look because the page has been deleted so its talk page is gone. But if you are interested in dealing with those poorly-written anti-alcohol articles of his, I just discovered another one: Alcohol and health. It was called to my attention by a new addition someone added (which is also problematic). But then I noticed the section "Pregnancy and alcohol" which is horrible: it cites a single study instead of a review article, and mis-states the results of the one study it cites. Then I looked at the general tenor of the article, noticed its strong anti-alcohol bias and partial incoherence, and smelled David Hedlund. Sure enough, turns out he contributed most of the content. If this area interests you, I'd appreciate it if you would take a look and maybe discuss on the article's talk page. My question: Can the article be fixed, or would it be better to simply merge any salvageable content to some other article? Also, who else should I contact about this? Thanks for any thoughts. --MelanieN (talk) 15:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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Bruce Rauner

I want to apolgize for the edit tonight. I have not been on here editing for a few months and its 1 in the morning so half awake, but i did it because i was worried and from my view that it was becoming bias and vandlism, (again maybe because im half awake) I revert it to that version so that it would be a clean start if u can understand. Anyway, it was all in good faith and in no way did i meen for all this to happened. I sincarally apolgize for all the trouble that was cause tonight. and i ask for forgiveness. Nhajivandi (talk) 06:49, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Western culture

Thank you for your edit at Western culture. Generally, it's best to follow WP:NOCITE when dealing with unsourced material that you believe is doubtful, especially in an article that is largely unsourced. Actually, I'm surprised that the information was controversial at all, but I guess everyone has an opinion. I put a {{cn}} tag on the claim about equality of women as happening during the Medieval period -- I'm pretty sure that's not true; that movement didn't really get going until the 19th century. Anyway, good luck with your sourcing project on the article. Sparkie82 (t•c) 18:39, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Reply from Georginho

Hello Le Prof, please see a reply to your message in my talk page. Thanks. Georginho (talk) 20:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Reply from George_M._Church

Hello Le Prof, please see my reply to your message in my Talk:George_M._Church talk page. I'd greatly appreciate your help in fixing this. George Church (talk) 09:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your edits and requests for dates and secondary sources. I've suggested a few on the talk page. George Church (talk) 19:24, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

George, this is a good venue to place brief notes, to keep it out of the general bulk of commentary at the article talk page. As for edit suggestions, keep appending them there, with citations as simple content bullets (without templates or other html markup)—in the two "existing" or "new" categories. I will then keep facilitating their review and addition. Please, though,have patience: the rush to work in response to your initial effort was intentional, in good faith, and its pace cannot be maintained. Further work will come as life permits. Cheers. Leprof 7272 (talk) 18:26, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

You have a great deal of integrity

...unlike certain other people. I didn't realize until now, how bad it was. --FeralOink (talk) 18:13, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Thank you very much. I will soon move this to a selected accolades area on my User page. Thankfully, those most important in this NPOV and COI situation have been amenable to reason, and we are making good progress. Leprof 7272 (talk) 06:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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I'm gathering together evidence against against DePiep if he gets taken to ANI as it seems there are some WP:CIR and WP:THERAPY problems here. I'm hopefully someone with a hat there can tell him to start being more mindful of keeping a civil tongue and assuming good faith. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 19 Adar 5775 14:22, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I can also be short/curt in dialog. My bottom line is that the discourse be reasonable, aimed at expertise, and largely impersonal. See also the following: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry#I_would_ask_general_attention and Talk:Oxygen#Discharge_tube_prose_edited_strongly. Cheers.

No worries, if I may though, it's best to try and keep your cool in situations like this and allow the other person to dig their hole if you feel they are refusing to be reasonable. I'm not sure you could bring a claim of ownership against them, but civility wise, DePiep is in deep. I don't know about alchemist, though I'm unfortunately having a lot of trouble understanding everything he's written (and I can understand some pretty bad English). Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 19 Adar 5775 15:22, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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...because sometimes one kitty is just not enough! :) --BoboMeowCat (talk) 13:46, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

You are so very kind, and Madam LeProf is endeared to you for the gesture. Smiles. Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:37, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for your citations! Now create an account or the kitten gets it! PureRED (talk) 14:17, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

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I patrolled your page. I went through the enormously-backlogged list of newly-created pages and confirmed that your page was okay: not spam, not an attack page, not a copyright violation, not any of the other reasons for which I would delete someone's page without asking. Then I clicked "patrolled" to remove it from the list of "pages that have not yet been patrolled", and moved on to the next entry. That's all. DS (talk) 21:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply, responded at your Talk page, and all is (as said there), understood. Cheers. Leprof 7272 (talk) 23:58, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

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Nothing more to be said. Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:15, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

I (finally) just read your reply concerning the B.bergdorfi(sp?) article. Your message really gave me pause, and I appreciate your patience in pointing out my errors. Feel free to critique any of my other edits, it will only make the encyclopedia better. Best Regards,

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I appreciate your support and editing help on PBC Foundation and your kind comments. Did you intend the last post on Talk:PBC Foundation to be there? I have lttle time or enthusiasm at present but will see if I can manage further comments. Now -- would you like to help me in part of my day job and write a biomedical grant -- that is probably just as frustrating! Jrfw51 (talk) 12:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again for your edits and advice. A battle lost. Once the professional "dogs" get their teeth into you and your less-than-perfect creation, there is no hope for a part-timer like me and a charity for a disease I expect they have never heard of. I will look out in the upcoming months for further evidence of the greater-than-other notability they demanded and may revisit the entry then. Do you have any enthusiasm to suggest a full overhaul of other health charity pages to bring them up to the standard we had created? Jrfw51 (talk) 12:25, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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Chirality (chemistry)

Are you going to be writing the "Methods and practices" section in this article? H Padleckas (talk) 13:57, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

And it would be good idea to write drafts of the other sections that you found lacking. You are an ideal author. Feel free to cut a lot of the material. --Smokefoot (talk) 22:22, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

@H Padleckas:@Smokefoot: Alas, I am not the best to write fully, and alone on these basic articles. I will always contribute to outlines, and write on bullet points in outlines, in the areas where I have expert knowledge and experience. But the person for this is a secondary school instructor, or a small team of college educators (e.g., one organic, one inorganic, one analytical, etc.). The key point of my earlier edits, was that simplistic, most basic textbook-derived statements, when filtered by the inexperienced, often come out simply wrong (example being focusing on axial chirality with spiro compounds, when Eliel et al. list at least three kinds observed).

Moreover, I am more and more parting company at articles where tags are not accepted. The policies and guidelines allow them, yet I am routinely reverted and accused of bombing, when placing an article tag, and then noting which are the offending sections with section tags/and or marking sentences needing checking. Now, I am fully aware that this disturbs the appearance of articles. But so what, if the article is badly in need of attention? We here are far too devoted to appearance, and deny the utility—as is used in professional document preparation—of allowing working documents to have placeholders indicating where attention and work are needed. And I have no further time, case by case, to argue this point.

Bottom line, based on my own research and experience, tags are honest, they are useful to readers (as I have queried), and they streamline followup work of all editors, down the road as time permits. The only down side is they make articles look awful. Well, I am more than willing to engage individual questioned edits, to remove and change as others suggest. But the carte blanche reversion represent a fundamental difference in values, and respect for our readership. (After learning about tags, one class was overwhelmed at the value they add in knowing whether to trust material, and asked me why they do not appear in all cases where there are problems. What was I to say?)

Bottom line, I will give little more time of my life to fighting devotion to clean looking articles that have major, major problems. Cheers, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:27, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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The tags at intrinsic factor accomplished what they intended to; they called attention of experienced, expert editors to the article, and led to change. [Often, the extent to which at-odds differ, is that some editors seem to believe that once they have visited an article, sufficient expertise has been brought to bear—and that no other experts need look. I see this as simple, personal hubris. In no sane universe is a job done with a single editor's attention (nor should one win the highest prizes of at ones' entry into an endeavour, so much for the sane universe theory).] Moreover, my affixing tags is never the sole task I involve myself in, at an article. I always put in considerable time, on the content of the article, often hours. It is simply my conviction, not universally shared by others, that it is near to criminal to leave problematic articles appearing superficially fine. This is a dishonesty expressed toward our readers, especially the youngest, and those least experienced in differentiating content of quality from that which lacks it. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 16:45, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

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See status of Partition coefficient. Leprof 7272 (talk) 21:21, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Article versus section and inline tags

There is no prohibition to having both section tags as well as article tags (and inline tags, for that matter). Each serves a different purpose (noting that the following description is not necessarily complete):

• Article tags, to call general attention to the article's need for editor effort, and to warn readers, especially young student readers, that there are issues with the article that they are about to read (as an educator, a purpose I find critically important to the encyclopedia's improvement and proper perception);
• Section tags, to point editors to the principle places in the article needing editor effort, that would allow removal of the article tag. Article tags can remain, if there are a plethora of inline tags, distributed broadly through the article, and not concentrated in one section. In such a case, a section tag is unnecessary. But if such needs are concentrated in one a section, a section's tagging hones other editors in on that section's need for attention (and, avoiding repetition of editorial review, thus saving editor time). Section tags also, if combined with other broad issues with a section, can signal a bold editor to move the section to Talk, and remove it from the main article space (i.e., section tags regarding sourcing—my main contribution—can have an important additive effect in conjunction with other tags, that can lead to outcomes in future editing that are positive for the encyclopedia). As well, a section tag can make clear to a reader linking directly in to a section that the section has quality issues, see prose above under article tags;
• Inline citation tags, to serve two clear purposes, one akin to those mentioned above, and one distinct: as above, to call reader and editor attention to a specific sentence needing attention. In addition, however, inline citation tags, in conjunction with appearing inline citations, can be the result of a careful line by line analysis of the text of a paragraph against appearing sources, and thus differentiate the text into two formal subsets—those sentences with content that has been sourced and verified, and those sentences still needing attention (i.e., that is, sentences not supported by the end-of-parageraph or other citation, and therefore still in violation of WP:VERIFY).

Hence, as I have elsewhere argued at greater length—where I have analogized the discernment just stated to the different types of notes used in multi-author documents in review, in corporate document-control settings—all three tags are, for different reasons, distinctly informative and reasonably non-redundant (depending on how they are applied), and properly applied, make the degree to which attention is needed at an article clear, and further clarify where attention is and is not needed. The proper combined use of tags, therefore, allows both clearest, most direct communication with our readers, as well as prioritization of limited editor time to do further work on the articles in question.

Otherwise, any specific discussion of what I have done, at a specific article, is encouraged, as is follow-on combining of tags—the latter generally being appreciated if I have not done it already. If I have not done it, it is often because the tag content sometimes is critical to reader perception or editor follow-up. Sometimes non-combined tags, though less sightly, constitute the better tool to move an article toward quality. (And as I have repeatedly said, appearance is not my concern; rather, encyclopedic quality, and a properly informed readership, are.) Cheers. Leprof 7272 (talk) 21:26, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

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Seen. But irrelevant to cladograms, and to the issues raised. But thanks, it was a fun diversion. Cheers. Le Prof 50.179.252.14 (talk) 21:04, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

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The following addition to my Talk page was just found, as it was added, not as a separate section, but as an addendum to an unrelated section, above. It is moved here, in part to keep the whole of this matter in a single place, but also to help explain why the initial communication of the matter was missed by yours truly [signed Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:10, 20 May 2016 (UTC)]:

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC) @NinjaRobotPirate:, @Liz:, @KrakatoaKatie: — I cannot find the ANI to which you refer. Could you please re-insert it here? Katie, my edits are never flyby, and always involve hours of work, and are aimed at warning readers about serious problems that remain at articles. They are generally placed only after I have spent long periods reviewing, repairing, and enhancing available sources. If you wish to peremptorily ban, and if it is in your power, I cannot stop you. But I am doing a service here, prompted (not by editors), but by student readers and users of the encyclopedia—one of whom recently said to me, "I have never found anything lacking in a Wikipedia article," so clever and careful we are about hiding the true status of things here. Rsvp here? cheers. Leprof 7272 (talk) 23:56, 11 May 2016 (UTC) Hi, Leprof. Please respond at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Leprof 7272. This is kind of important. An administrator has indicated that she is considering blocking you for disruption. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2016 (UTC) Leprof 7272, I'd like to echo NinjaRobotPirate's words and urge you to come to ANI and explain your unique approach to tagging articles, sections and sentences in articles (WP:TAGBOMBING). A number of editors have issues with your conduct and without a BRIEF explanation on your part, your behavior will be judged to be disruptive. Liz Read! Talk! 20:08, 26 April 2016 (UTC) And I'm one of them. You're making the articles completely unreadable and it has to stop. If you add another tag to another article without explaining yourself at ANI, I'll block you myself and it won't be for 24 hours. Katietalk 14:45, 27 April 2016 (UTC) You can find the archived discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive922#Leprof 7272. Liz Read! Talk! 00:01, 12 May 2016 (UTC) Although there was no archive box surrounding it, responding in the middle of an ANI archive as you did here is bad form, because editors are no longer watching the discussion and it gives you the last word by default and for the record, so to speak. Liz, should we unarchive that section and bring it back with his response included? I'd like to keep the discussion in one place. Katietalk 00:52, 12 May 2016 (UTC) Thank you, I clearly did not know this. Leprof 7272 (talk) 02:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC) KrakatoaKatie, I see two options here: a) we can unarchive this ANI discussion and allow Leprof 7272 to respond (and allow other editors to respond as well) or b) Leprof7272 can stop adding comments to an archived page and we can let this discussion remain, unresolved, in the archive. Leprof7272, if I were you, I'd carefully read over the complaints the editors who posted had about your editing behavior and change it to avoid these problems. Take this seriously as I know you've had complaints filed against you at ANI before and this one could have easily resulted in a sanction. This choice would require you to accept the discussion "as is" without trying to add in your comments and, remember, you can not alter content that has been placed in any archived page, it will be viewed as disruptive editing. Liz Read! Talk! 10:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC) @Liz:, @KrakatoaKatie:, I'm going to block this editor if he edits/reverts the archive one more time. Leprof, de-archiving is an option; what you're doing right now is highly disruptive if only because you give the other commenters no chance to respond. That I have to explain this is somewhat baffling. Anyway, you've been warned--here and on the page of your IP. BTW, don't edit when logged out please. Drmies (talk) 02:11, 12 May 2016 (UTC) @Liz:, @KrakatoaKatie: Please, explain to me what I am to do here. I am being threatened at my Talk page, with sanctions for not having responded to an ANI that is now archived. Where am I to respond to this? Thankfully, at this edit history, there is this record, so you can see my responses. What is the next step? Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 02:33, 12 May 2016 (UTC) Le Prof. First, you cannot vanish for such a long time that an ANI thread gets archived, and then come back here and freak out and demand attention to What You Want Right Now. Second, people made very clear offers above to unarchive the thread so that you could respond. So if that is what you really want, write here and ask for the thread to be unarchived if you want. You would be way, way smarter to a) hold your breath and just read the ANI thread; b) absorb what people said; c) stop doing what people were complaining about, and d) thank who ever you pray to you that you dodged a bullet. (it was archived without action) If you insist on having the thread re-opened and "defending" yourself there, the likely outcome will be a good long block. So think carefully about asking it to be opened again. But again, if you want to argue, ask here for it to be unarchived. Jytdog (talk) 03:36, 12 May 2016 (UTC) @KrakatoaKatie: please unarchive the ANI thread, I think there are at least seven editors, including myself, who have all experienced the same thing with Leprof 7272. The fact that Leprof waited so long that the thread auto-archived shouldn't stop them being open to appropriate punishment (if deemed necessary). XyZAn (talk) 16:15, 12 May 2016 (UTC) I would say that is pretty unhelpful XyZan. ANI is for "incidents" and there are no longer active ones as far as I know; it is unlikely you will be able to generate any interest in doing anything at this point. Please reconsider.Jytdog (talk) 17:14, 12 May 2016 (UTC) I agree with Jytdog. At this point the matter is stale. If the disruption resumes, however, start a new thread there and link to the archived thread. But only if the tagbombing starts up again or there's a different issue. Katietalk 17:46, 12 May 2016 (UTC) Points duly noted - @Jytdog:, @KrakatoaKatie:. I'd rather hope that Leprof just modifies their behaviour, somewhat, than raise another ANI. XyZAn (talk) 18:10, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

To continue this is in a constructive way, @NinjaRobotPirate:, @Liz:, @KrakatoaKatie: @Jytdog: here are examples of recent editorial visits:

• Hay. No changes made. Article found in reasonable shape, and any attention to small discrepancies would have been flyby. [As PubServ, I support some individuals at rural high schools, as I was raised with this background.]
• Conditioner (farming). Editing from 50.129.227.141. edit summary, Talk, diff.
• To be added.
• To be added.

[I will add others as I have time, feel free to stop back periodically.]

Please feel free to pick one, and give specific feedback to indicate what I have done—per specific policies, please—that is prohibited (versus not to another's tastes), and more importantly, to address specifically, how the edits were not consistent in moving the article, and the encyclopedia, in the direction of becoming a more reputable venue for real learning. Reading my earlier posts at Katie's Talk page might also be of interest, as they address the differences between the utility of inline, versus section, versus article tags. Cheers. Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:06, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Please be very careful in the future to hear what was said at the ANI and tag lightly. What you were doing in the past following the principles above, was not OK. As I noted below, if you hadn't wandered off during the ANI and had tried to defend what you do while the ANI was still open, it would have resulted in a block. For sure. Please re-think how you tag, really hearing what was said at ANI. Jytdog (talk) 21:33, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Jytdog, I've read (after moving here), and your analysis is appreciated, and points are taken. But as I once had to sign on a major pharma quarterly performance review, "Signed to acknowledge receipt, but without assent." Please read on, briefly…

I am looking for (i) philosophical feedback, grounded in specific WP policies, at the mini-essay above, so I can take this up (with a clear understanding of the best defense of common practice based in WP policies and guidelines) at a much higher level, and (ii) practical guidance, with regard to real, current editing examples, here. Anything to take issue with, above, from WP policies, or anything here, specifically, about the Conditioner (farming) (or other examples that will follow)? Cheers. Le Prof 50.129.227.141 (talk) 02:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Le prof. I saw you pinged me here. I don't see any policy violations at Conditioner (farming). If it were me, I would not have included {{expert needed}}, as it seems potentially redundant to {{Unsourced}}. I understand why you added it, though. I looked at Katie's user talk page, and I didn't see any comments from you. I think you might have meant User talk:Drmies/Archive 100#Drmies, please note… But if I can help you, I will try. We have worked well together in the past, and I wouldn't want to see you get blocked. You might consider the Tea House if you have questions about Wikipedia and want constructive, friendly feedback. I contribute there sometimes. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:35, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: No hurry on this, but I indeed misdirected you. Here are links to relevant mini-essay-type entries I have made, which explain my view (which, after the first will rapidly become redundant, alongside my user page): look here, and here and here (a summary I wrote today, and earlier notes at a Talk page). But seriously, no hurry, take care of your important matters first. Le Prof 50.129.227.141 (talk) 03:45, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks here, for feedback, Ninja, and the honesty, and will answer more fully, elsewhere. (Ellipsis marks a matter that I will speak to you directly about.) Warmest regards. Le Prof 50.129.227.141 (talk) 02:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Please be more selective in your use of attention banners. In Conditioner (farming), you have added both {{unreferenced}} and {{expert needed}} tags, the later with the reason that there are not any sources. Hence the {{expert needed}} is redundant and therefore I have removed it. Adding an {{expert needed}} tag does not directly alert the relevant wiki project, but invites editors to do so. So why don't you instead add a brief message to WT:AG linking back to Talk:Conditioner_(farming)#Expert attention needed? Boghog (talk) 07:01, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

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