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REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDP_growth#Theories_of_economic_growth Please "undo" your revert and restore my entry. Not a fact ... just a theory published by the Boeing Aircraft Corp. What is the strength, R2, t-values, etc. ? ... regarding:

Economic growth in North America

In North America, strong increases in productivity and continuing population growth drive GDP growth. The GDP growth rate is forecast at 2.9 percent annually over the next 20 years.

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Thanks, James Copeland, P.E. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Copeland.James.H (talk • contribs) 00:40, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

I've noticed that you're working on economics articles. You should come hang out at the Economics Wikiproject. Feel free to message me if you have any questions. LK (talk) 06:49, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Line shaft

You lost me on your 1.15 am edit. Whats the link to Hydraulic and Pneumatic?--ClemRutter (talk) 10:29, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense now. Nice piece of work.--ClemRutter (talk) 21:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Electrification

I had a look at the work in progress- and see a little local difficulty. As far as I can ascertain in a GB context, the word electrification is limited to the phrase 'Electrification of the railways' and in the 1950 'Electrification' was a big issue, with the Electrification of the West Coast Main Line#Modernisation by British Rail. It affected the schools, where there were assemblies on how dangerous it would be to try and touch one of the cables. Bridges had to be raised to allow for gauge clearance.

I have done a quick google on History electricity Manchester and found this Wolverhampton article which is fascinating to read Electricity in the Midlands -nowhere is the process providing electricity referred to as 'electrification'! Doesn't prove anything but it is worth noting that the North Am usage seems broader, and that should be noted with possibly a {{See also}} template. I won't touch the text while you are working on it. --ClemRutter (talk) 01:05, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

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Sources for Ayres–Warr model

When you say that the IMF "adopted [Ayers & Warr's] methodology" in the WEO 2012, I assume you are referring to WEO Scenario 3, in which the contribution of oil to output is considerably increased compared to their benchmark scenario. I wouldn't describe this as "adopted their methodology"; it is only an alternative scenario considered next to the main scenario. In relation to the question whether we have sufficient sourcing for the article Ayres-Warr model, this source qualifies as independent. I'm less certain whether it qualifies as reliable, but let's assume the IMF staff who worked on these scenarios are experts in the field. Then, still, I don't see significant coverage. The actual reference to the Ayres–Warr model does not go further than stating that they (and others!) "have argued that [the IMF benchmark scenario model] understates the importance of energy, including oil, for economic activity" and "have found output contributions of energy that range from 30 percent to more than 60 percent". The coverage in independent reliable sources should be such that one should be able to base the article on the content of that coverage; I don't see that here.  --Lambiam 01:50, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

If the article survives I'll address this issue. No point at this time.Phmoreno (talk) 02:52, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Hello Lambiam, there is a discussion here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Useful_work_growth_theory see summary of scope - if you are satisfied with coverage, you might vote ( if not too ... ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SergeyKurdakov (talk • contribs) 10:51, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Energy and energy conversion theories

Thanks for fixing up this section, I think it looks very good now. --OpenFuture (talk) 08:00, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Economies of scale

This footnote you added on 21 January 2013 contains an imcomplete citation of "Landes 1969". Could you please complete it? --bender235 (talk) 07:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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It is really censorship by a person with a bias against this theme. Actually that is worse than vandalism.Phmoreno (talk) 17:21, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

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Please take a step back and be careful not to exceed 3 reverts. SPECIFICO talk 21:10, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm disappointed to see that you're continuing to edit that article prior to keeping your promise to read the Barro book. Nothing good is going to come of this. It's better to take an extra week or two and get it right than to continue the same contentious changes which remain unresolved on the article and talk pages. SPECIFICO talk 02:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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Hot blast

I have to quibble with at least one of your recent changes; maybe it hangs on the meaning of "good quality iron", but it seems rather misleading to imply that hot blast enabled the use of coke as a fuel when Darby was smelting with coke a full century before Neilson developed the hot blast. Choess (talk) 15:42, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Have you ever read Gordon's "American Iron"? Fascinating book on the changes in American ironmaking practice pre-20th century and the frankly rather unscientific way in which the technology developed. Choess (talk) 21:29, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Cogeneration#Too_much_emphasis_on_trigeneration pls fix it, the best option is to separate the articles. Mion (talk) 00:50, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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At [1], you asked for recommendations from other editors to improve the article Technology, in part because "At least Productivity improving technologies (historical) discusses modern technology and shows how it affects our everyday lives" [2]. I responded to your request for a plan by suggesting that you "remove the (in my view, very misguided) mash-up of economic history and productivity from your creation at Productivity_improving_technologies_(historical) and use the remaining bits that deal only with modern technology itself to create a new Modern technology article that deals solely with modern technology." [3], and you called that plan "constructive" [4] and wrote "Your suggestion is good." [5]. However, instead of beginning to implement that plan, it seems like you've renamed Productivity_improving_technologies_(historical) as Productivity (economic history) [6]. Now, instead of having an article here that "discusses modern technology and shows how it affects our everyday lives" without a single coherent topic in violation of WP:SYNTH and WP:NOTESSAY, you seem to be doing the same thing without even having the word technology in the essay's title. None of this matters to me very much, but I am curious about it. At the moment, I'm just wondering what became of our previous plan. Did you change your mind? Eventually (probably soon), either me or someone else will bring your essay, regardless of its title, (and perhaps the others spun off from Productivity#Productivity_articles_with_a_special_focus) to WP:AfD for deletion. I just don't know if I'll be doing you, and more importantly, the encyclopedia, a favor by doing it sooner or later. Please let me know your thoughts about this. Flying Jazz (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Flying Jazz: This is a matter of priorities because I will be unavailable for the next three weeks. The first priority is to address comments regarding the Productivity article, which I am trying to do. That requires the least amount of time and can get accomplished sooner. And time is needed for more time for comments at Talk:Technology. I have not decided to write a modern technology article or to reorganize any other articles at this time. That depends on the outcome of Porductivity.Phmoreno (talk) 15:30, 6 June 2015 (UTC

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You and I apparently produce substandard content, according to a brilliant and collegial editor. I'm thinking of starting a club. Perhaps with intense reeducation and proper guidance we can meet that noble editor's unusual standard. Capitalismojo (talk) 15:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

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Apologies, I could have explained that better. I meant that having an external link "see this diagram" in the middle of a paragraph is useless to anyone reading the article offline, or in a printed paper form (cf. WP:CLICKHERE). It makes more sense as a reference, but perhaps a redrawn version of it could be added to the article, if it's particularly useful? Wikipedia:Graphics Lab might be able to help. --McGeddon (talk) 13:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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Please leave it open longer. I plan to address most of these issues but I have real world obligations outside Wikipedia. De-listing as GA will require some other reviewer to go through the whole process again.Phmoreno (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Still no progress on the article, so I have delisted. When the issues have been addressed the article can be nominated again. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:49, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

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Chicken typo

Cost of chicken in time worked

In the title in the accompanying plot "File:Cost of chicken in time worked.jpg", "by" should be "buy": "By" is preposition meaning "near" or "next to". This context suggests you want "buy", which means "purchase": "Hours of work to by a 3 pound chicken" may have some funny poetic meaning that escapes me, but I believe you meant, "Hours of work to buy a 3 pound chicken".

Beyond this, someplace I read that images submitted to Wikimedia Commons should generally avoid text to make it easier for others to use the image in articles of different languages. In certain contexts like bar charts or system diagrams, it may be best to ignore this rule, because it may decrease the readability too much to label individual bars or diagram features with numbers that are then defined in the description. If you look at my uploads, you'll see that I've done it both ways.

For your amusement, I just added a Spanish translation to the "Summary" for "File:Cost of chicken in time worked.jpg". This allows you to see how that works, if you have time and interest for that.

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Economic Growth

What does that mean? I tried to click on that link it didn't work, if there was no link intended why was the link there in the first place? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guardian101 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

@Guardian101: There is no link, unless you are talking about the reference, where using reference type Harvnb the link is optional. Regardless, just because you can't find a link does not permit you to remove the material.Phmoreno (talk) 01:47, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Don't you need a link or evidence to support information that you're adding to Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guardian101 (talk • contribs) 01:27, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

@Guardian101: Only a citation is required. Most references are not available online. This particular citation, Bjork 1999, is from a book.Phmoreno (talk) 01:34, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you that sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.

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References on article talk pages

Hi Phmoreno. When you add references to talk pages, you have to add {{reflist-talk}} or {{Sources-talk}} at the end of your post, otherwise the reflist floats to the bottom on the page interfering with other posts. Alternative, you can simply use URL links to the sources enclosed in square brackets.- MrX 18:28, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

January 2018

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, as you did at Talk:Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, you may be blocked from editing. Multiple editors have asked you not to use article talk pages as a forum. You don't seem to want to take that advice so now I'm formally warning you to stop disrupting Wikipedia and stop enabling trolls. - MrX 21:36, 5 January 2018 (UTC)