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Blue edit history

Why is their blue shade over some edits for some pages edit history? Thanks! DonkeyPunchResin (talk) 20:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC) DonkeyPunchResin (talk) 20:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

@DonkeyPunchResin: welcome to the Teahouse. I think what you're referring to is the edit history of articles with "pending changes" protection. When a user who can't edit such an article directly makes an edit, it has to be accepted by an editor who has that particular right. Edits that were accepted get a pale blue tint in the edit history. --bonadea contributions talk 21:26, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

This is one example of an article with pending changes protection. Is that what you meant? Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 21:27, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Yep that’s it. So all edits in blue are pending?DonkeyPunchResin (talk) 21:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

I’m confused as to why random edits here and there on this article are are not blue https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demagogue&action=history or does the blue not change even after the edit is accepted?DonkeyPunchResin (talk) 21:36, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

The blue edits are accepted, not pending. I mistyped in my first reply, sorry if you saw that before I corrected myself. --bonadea contributions talk 23:36, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!DonkeyPunchResin (talk) 04:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

How old?

How old can you use wikipedia WikiTime45 (talk) 23:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

WikiTime45 Does Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors help? Or are you asking if there is an upper age limit? David notMD (talk) 01:47, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Technically, you can be at any age. However, you need to be mature on Wikipedia, if you are immature or act rudely towards others you may get banned or blocked on certain pages. Hope this helps! :) Toad62 (talk) 19:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Using edit, how do I remove/change a photo in a Wikipedia article?

I was looking at an article the other day, and the photo was wrong, the wrong person was shown. How do I remove the photo and replace it with something more accurate? Thanks Muso2020 (talk) 12:07, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Muso2020, I see you posted at the article's talkpage, that is the right place to ask, give it a couple of days and see if there's any discussion. Per [1] it looks like it could be him, but who knows. See Help:Pictures. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:50, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Muso2020, that's a great-looking photo that you uploaded (commons:file:Angus-Julia-Stone.jpg), but you can’t copy material from other web sites unless it’s clearly licensed in a way that we can use it. Thanks for trying to help, I trust that you mean well.

If you are the photographer or know them, then tell us here, or on Commons, and someone should be able to advise the process you need to go through to license the image. If not, it's been automatically flagged for review and will probably be deleted soon.

commons:Category:Angus & Julia Stone doesn’t have many shots of them both together, so if you do find something we can use we'd love to have it!

(Also, for future reference, changing the main photo for an article isn’t considered a minor edit, so best to leave that box unticked.)

Best wishes, Pelagic ( messages ) – (21:06 Tue 13, AEST) 11:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

P.S. I've reverted the article and left a note on Muso's talk page. Pelagic ( messages ) – (21:31 Tue 13, AEST) 11:31, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikimedia close to bankruptcy ?

Hello,

I'm fed up! Fed up with all these headbands that I assimilate to advertising, and whose campaigns are lasting more and more. Fed up with this WikiMedia organization that is unable (or unwilling) to answer a simple question: History since 2010 of the foundation's membership.

I was answered by sending me a link with 40 documents of 20 pages or more each. Yet the question was simple and the answer a little less transparent.

But where does all that money you receive from people like Bill Gates and other sponsors go? For which balance sheet, which new features created? We don't know. A little more transparency?

The mantra of these seekers: Wikipedia needs you to stay free! Well, spend less and better, like the time I started contributing.

Excuse these outrageous remarks, but there is a lot of people who are fed up with campaigns that last more than a week. I'm willing to suffer (that's the best word I've found to describe my bristles) one day, but no more.

And it's a Wikipedia user who has been registered for a long time, who knows what he owes you, who has contributed a little, who tells you so..., and who won't repeat his donations of 30€ / year, at least not until his questions have been answered.

Thank you for reading me to the end, and for answering me at least once, with the information I ask for. Thank you Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version from french) French user : Pablo31100

SO, my question is quite simple : Could-you give me History since 2010 of the foundation's staff, (and their costs) ? 78.119.195.39 (talk) 17:15, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This is a place to ask questions about using Wikipedia. If you have questions about the Foundation's finances or practices, you will need to communicate with them using this contact information. 331dot (talk) 17:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

You might be looking for https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/financial-reports/. Ed talk! 17:48, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Also, the WMF is quite transparent already regarding where their money goes, you just have to know where to look. Ed talk! 17:50, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks EdPablo31100 (talk) 16:20, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikidata statement reference

I'm working on a band article in my sandbox. I began it in 2018, and have recently been able to resume work on it. URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:K3n51mm/sandbox

I've done much more indepth research this time, and as I work through learning about and fixing things like template usage, external links and references, my question has to do with adding an 'official website' statement to the Wikidata on this band so I can use the official website template.

In my first draft, I used hard external link syntax, which I now understand is not the preferred method. Hence my attempt to update the Wikidata, since I found the existing 'Q' entry for the band.

This band has a Spanish language Wikipedia page that is outdated and incomplete, created by fans in Mexico back in 2013 or so. My goal is to create an updated standards-compliant English version from which a translation can be made in the future if requested.

So, I added a statement with the P856 property 'official website'. However, the data entity is not being retrieved when I use the official website template syntax. The error being returned can be seen by viewing the page at the URL included above.

Any guidance is appreciated. K3n51mm (talk) 01:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@K3n51mm: {{Official website}} won't work in your userspace because that page is not tied to the Wikidata item at Wikidata:Q6396598 (and should not be as it isn't an article). The link should work when the draft gets moved into the mainspace. Alternatively, the template will accept a manually-entered URL if the error message is bothering you too much. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!)

[Edit conflict] That's an impressive-looking draft. But as for Wikidata, you've got the wrong end of the stick. In your Wikipedia article, you don't link to Wikidata. Instead, once your draft has become an article, you link to it from Wikidata. I infer that you have no experience of Wikidata. Either familiarizing oneself with it is quite a task or I am thick; however, linking from an entry there to a Wikipedia entry is a procedure that's easy both to understand and to carry out. (However, Ganbaruby's response is so utterly different from mine that I fear I may have misunderstood you.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Hoary: I think K3 is talking about the red error message at the external links section. Nevertheless, what you said is true. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 02:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Oh, the "official website" stuff. I thought it was the matter of links among the Spanish-, English- and any-other-language Wikipedia pages about this band. -- Hoary (talk) 02:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Ganbaruby has the right idea; I was hoping it was something like that. I'll just use a menually-entered URL to keep the red text out of the way for now. Thanks all for the input. K3n51mm (talk) 12:57, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Image Question

Hi there are photos of a politician whos photo is missing from the lists of the former western Australia's premiers the only photo I have found are pictures of him long after his premiership ended that are on the abc (an Australian public broadcaster) I also can't find a citation from who actually took the photo is there a section of Wikipedia that explains what is an acceptable source and what is an acceptable citation Hopetounblunder (talk) 03:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind I think I solved it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hopetounblunder (talk • contribs) 05:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I don't think you did, Hopetounblunder. File:Brian burke.jpg claims on its description page to be licensed under CC-BY-SA 4.0, but the copyright statement it links to does not contain such a statement: it gives permission for reuse excepting commercial use, which makes it unacceptable for Wikimedia projects, and it will shortly get deleted. See Image use policy --ColinFine (talk) 09:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I am so sorry I misunderstood the document thank you for correcting me I was just looking for something — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hopetounblunder (talk • contribs) 09:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC) sorry if you don't care but I decided too check the source of the previous pictures because that seems to make sense — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hopetounblunder (talk • contribs) 10:48, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

AirBnb

Is Airbnb a reliable source? Editingwork8 (talk) 04:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Editingwork8. Do you mean this Airbnb? If that's the same AirBnb you're referring to, then I'm not sure not how a "vacation rental online marketplace" would meet WP:RS in general, but it might be in some cases depending upon the context. What article and what type of information do you want cite this as a source for? -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:31, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@ Marchjuly For referencing a location — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 04:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I don't understand why you would need to cite a company like Airbnb for something like that since there would seem to be better more reliable ways to do such a thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:07, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@ Marchjuly That's why I'm asking for suggestions I guess — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 06:59, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Editingwork8: Almost surely no. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@ Sdkb Okay, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 04:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Given that they have been shown to advertise properites that don't exist, I would say not. They are a marketplace with property information provided by random sellers, not a property directory.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@ Shantavira Thanks for guiding

@Editingwork8: To reference a location, citing Google or Bing Maps, or any other maps would suffice. GeraldWL 13:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Gerald I've tried it Wikipedia isn't accepting Google maps. Thanks for suggesting me!

How is it that Rachel Vanderthorne is listed in multiple articles and in general history and Wikipedia will not reference any data of these news articles and historical data?

Why does Wikipedia fail to include any historical data of Rachel Vanderthorne while nearly 2 decades of information is available on different sites and Google? This includes State of Oregon, Lincoln County and Clackamas County court records. These are not false documents and are recorded by legal means. What is missing to make this information available as it is on Google? Who is making these decisions and what are they based on? How can the corrections to Wikipedia be made so it is actually factual and complete to date information. At present, it is not.Rachel Vanderthorne (talk) Rachel Vanderthorne (talk) 05:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Rachel Vanderthorne. Wikipedia is not a social media website like Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. It is not a tool for self-promotion. Please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Any autobiographical content will be subject to intense scrutiny, and editors who self-promote may be blocked. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Rachel Vanderthorne. Just going by your username, I curious as to why you're referring to yourself in the third-person in your original post above. If you're Rachel Vanderthorne, then you should read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest to get some understanding as to why it's generally not a good idea to try and create or add content about yourself to Wikipedia. If you're not Rachel Vanderthorne, then you probably should take a look at Wikipedia:Username Policy#Real names because you shouldn't be using a username implying you're someone you're trying to create or add content about to Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Rachel Vanderthorne. In reply to your question of what notability decisions are based on, see WP:NBIO—particularly WP:NPOL in your case. Being mentioned in court records or on Google does not make one notable. —teb728 t c 09:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Nor does running for an elected office. David notMD (talk) 18:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Review my article

Hello! I am hoping to find someone(s) willing to look over my very first Wikipedia article. I am reviewing one of my very favorite singers who has never gotten the recognition she deserved. It's Draft:Josie James.

Thanks!! Earlgrey20 (talk) 05:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Earlgrey20, may I ask what your relationship is with the subject? Are you being paid to write this draft, or is it part of your job, or are you doing it as a favour to a friend or family, or is it something else? Please review WP:COI and make necessary disclosures whatever they may be. Failure to do so makes other editors disinclined to help you, if nothing else. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 06:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link Draft:Josie James TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 06:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello! Good question! I could see why it gives off that impression, but she was one of my grandfather's favorite artists, and I have developed a fascination with her over time, collecting articles. My grandfather has been helping me as well. How do I make the page look less like I am a friend?? :( Because I was already aware that it might look like I have a COI, as I am familiar with the rules, but I figured I would be safe since there is not a COI. I have tried to model the article after James' coworker, Lynn Davis (singer), which seems like an extremely biased account and I didn't want to do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlgrey20 (talk • contribs) 00:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Earlgrey20, I'm not an experienced article reviewer, so take everything I say with a grain of salt (or maybe a big handful). The draft doesn’t seem promotional to me and is quite well-developed. I've left some suggestions for tweaks at Draft talk:Josie James. When you feel ready, there is a template you can add to the page to mark it for an AFC reviewer to look at, but be aware that can take a while. Thanks for your work on the article, I hope you've enjoyed the process so far. — Pelagic ( messages ) – (23:14 Tue 13, AEST) 13:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Please help

Hi, I was not satified with the previous responses where two users tried to help me with suggestions on creating a second page. I wasn't able to find the said article in WP: Article and according to the second user, I do not wish to replace the previous article. I would be really glad if someone could be more clear or explain the process in a step-by-step way. Pasting the responses below, so that the new responses are elaborate. Regards.

How do I create second article? Hi, I wish to create another article, but I am not sure if I use the sandbox it won't delete the previous page created by me. Kindly suggest.Thanks 51moont (talk) 14:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@51moont:Hello! You can always create another article without deleting what's in your sandbox. Type in WP:FIRST in the search bar, and an article will explain how to do it all. Le Panini (talk) 14:48, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Also, for reference, click on your username (which is currently red) and it will allow you to create a user page, for a bio and a personal talk page.

If you go to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:51moont/sandbox&redirect=no you can blank the page, or edit it to replace with new content. David Biddulph (talk) 15:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC) 51moont (talk) 10:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@51moont: I'm confused. What do you mean by a "second page"? What does this page do? Do you mean a subpage? ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 11:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

No, sorry I was unclear, I meant second article/new article. I have created one. I want to create another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51moont (talk • contribs) 11:52, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

51moont, what is the name of the article you would like to create? Zindor (talk) 12:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

51moont, after an article has been published, it can not be harmed by editing the page that it was moved from. So, you can write your new article on your sandbox that you used for your first article. I have just edited your sandbox to show just that. You can remove what I wrote and start writing your new article there, at User:51moont/sandbox. Or you could create new pages in your userspace such as User:51moont/sandbox2, User:51moont/sandbox3, and so on., or create drafts such as Draft:51Moont's second article. So, to elaborate, you can just click any one of the red or blue links in my comment (except the first one which is your username) and start writing your new article on the page that opens. Good luck! Usedtobecool ☎️ 12:46, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Problem with invitation template

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Teahouse § Problem with invitation template

 – Seems more relevant to hold discussion there. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:16, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

will to create wikipedia for artists

 Annanya Joshi (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what is your question? Mr. Heart ^(talk) 13:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Probably something similar to the long history of people here asking whether they could make a wiki for an artist for promotion. Just saying. GeraldWL 14:00, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Let me try to answer this question based on what's given. To create an article, read up on how to create one by clicking on this hyperlink > Help:Your first article. Another way is by making a draft in your sandbox, by clicking "sandbox" in the top right corner, and we'll help you post it for review once you get to that point. As Gerald Waldo said above, however, articles for self-promotion that don't meet the notability requirements will not get approved. It's difficult writing an article. Good luck! Le Panini (talk) 14:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hold your horses, folks! That might be totally the wrong interpretation. Just in case this editor (Annanya Joshi) is planning to make a bequest in their will of some of their assets to the Wikimedia Foundation in order to support artist-related activities (like this galleries, libraries and museums project) then their solicitor would need to ensure the will contains an appropriate clause. Details of making Legacy Gifts can be found on this Wikimedia Foundation page. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:26, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Untitled

Hi there everyone

I have submitted an article for the first time and it was declined.

I have been reading and trying to figure out how do I disclose myself as a paid editor? if my employer is the person who I am writing about is below the correct way to insert onto my article?

{{Connected contributor (paid)}} Zodwam (talk) 14:55, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Zodwam: Not exactly. You still have to replace "insert name" witht he actual information. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:06, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Zodwam: I've never had to do it, but if I were employed by a PR firm to create and/or edit a page about the famous and highly notable Acme Welding Corporation, I would expect to place the following on that article's talk page:

{{Connected contributor (paid)|User1=Nick Moyes|U1-employer=Smith Public Relations|U1-client=Acme Welding Company|U1-otherlinks=}}

(Should you view this in editing mode, you will see extraneous markup like 'code' and 'nowiki' in chevron brackets - you must remove these so that the proper template is displayed.) It only works on talk pages; you would use a different template on your own userpage. Does that help? Nick Moyes (talk) 15:16, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Someone is threatening me of blocking my account.

Hello. As you can see from my take page, someone is threatening me that I have done vandalism. Rather, this is not the case and I believe that they are suspects of vandalism. Please help me. Islam=peace and love (talk) 15:20, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Islam=peace and love: has reached out to me on my talk page, as I was the one who sent him a warning. I have provided a response, please take a look on my talk page. Transcendental36 (talk) 15:30, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Article Creation

Hello, I just created my first article here, how long will it take to be approved or how can I fast track it?. Thank you Davdotfam (talk) 15:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Davdotfam If you are referring to Draft:Oluwafemi Ogunsanya, you have submitted it for review. As noted in the submission notice, "This may take 2 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,629 pending submissions waiting for review"; this is because reviews are done by volunteers who do what they can when they can. Reviews are done in no particular order; it could be in five minutes, or six weeks from now, there is no way to know and no way to "fast track" it, you will need to be patient. For what reason do you need it "fast tracked"? 331dot (talk) 15:25, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Lucky day! it's done. Also removed copyright violations from the only article Davdotfam has edited, and requested WP:REVDEL. Added user talk page templates for WP:UPE and WP:COPYVIO. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 15:57, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

More like unlucky day - tagged with Speedy deletion and Rejected (rather than Declined). David notMD (talk) 16:35, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Usedtobecool & David notMD, why did I find this exchange very amusing? Also, yes! the tale signs of UPE are all present. Celestina007 (talk) 17:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007 Not the first time that a Teahouse query has resulted in unintended consequences, nor the last. David notMD (talk) 17:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

David notMD, indeed! There's another from me a few sections up (or in the closest archive), the one that was collapsed after the draft was deleted and the sock that created it indeffed. I think the lesson is "Don't mistake our politeness for naivety." Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 15:58, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Nosecone6133 asks

Should the https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page be added to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wikis. It's a major website. Nosecone6133 (talk) 16:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Nosecone6133, and welcome! The inclusion criteria for that list is that the wiki should have a Wikipedia article about it first (WP:WTAF). Please review the notability guidelines at WP:N (special guidelines for websites at WP:NWEBSITE as well), and then if you can find reliable sources to demonstrate that the wiki meets those guidelines, you may create an article (see Your first article) about it. When such an article exists, only then is it appropriate to add its entry to that list. Answers respectfully, Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:49, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Fancy Signatures

How do I decorate my signature? What I mean is that, some people who sign with the four tildes (Le Panini (talk) 17:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)) have their name colored or in a colored box or in a fancy font. How do I do that, without having to copy and paste all the stuff? Is it with signatures in preferences? Le Panini (talk) 17:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Le Panini, go to preferences and scroll down to signatures. You can then customize it with colors, highlighting, font, etc. Before doing so please read WP:CUSTOMSIG to familiarize yourself with the relevant guidelines surrounding signatures (to make sure they are not too intrusive, too ornate, etc.). Then edit your signature in the place listed above, and test it out in your sandbox until you are happy with it! Giraffer ^munch 17:11, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Le Panini, yes, you put in the code that you want used for your signature when you sign with tildes. See WP:CUSTOMSIG; WP:SIGTUT for more practical knowledge. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: (ec) Yes, but it's mostly done with HTML. If you're familiar with that, you'll easily see how to do it by looking at other people's posts' source code in source editor. If you're not familiar with HTML, you're likely to break your signature, so please don't. WP:CUSTOMSIG may have some use. I'm sorry there is no "easy" way to do this. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:17, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Giraffer Okay, almost done with mine. Can I put my signature into a different font? I really like work sans. Le Panini (talk) 17:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Fonts can be achieved in text using <font face="Work Sans"> Text Goes here </font> without the nowiki tags. Example:

 Le Panini (talk) 

Did that help? -GoatLordServant (Talk) 18:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Well yes, but actually no. Work Sans in google docs looks totally different than what's displayed here. Is it not in the Wikipedia database, so it defaulted to this font instead? Is there a list of fonts on Wikipedia that are viable? Le Panini (talk) 18:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

There will be somewhere, i know there's a list of the hexcodes for colors that can be displayed on Wikipedia. Zindor (talk) 18:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I already know the hexcode page, I'm wondering if there is one for fonts. Le Panini (talk) 18:35, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Le Panini, check out the 'available fonts' section at Wikipedia:Typography. Zindor (talk) 18:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I think FreeSans is closest to what I wanted. I tried to put this into my code, but it defaulted to the other font. How can I implement this font? Here's my code:

[[User:Le Panini|<span style="font-family: FreeSans ;color: #ff4500">Le Panini</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Le Panini|<span style="color: blue">''^{(Talk to}_me?)''</span>]]</small>

Which turns to:

< style="font-family:FreeSans;color:#ff4500">Le Panini ^{(Talk to}_me?)

Perhaps it's something to do with the global CSS. The page at Wikipedia:Typography has the styling within a table, so maybe there's a class and related styling being defined there behind the scenes. I'll check back on this later. Regards, Zindor (talk) 19:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I'll just keep it as this for now. Thanks for the help! Le Panini ^{(Talk to}_me?) 19:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

What to do if sources don't work

Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia, and I love the idea of Wikipedia, but I hate it when something doesn't work, and I noticed on one of the Wikipedia articles I was reading, at least two of the sources took you nowhere, and I wanted to help fix this, but I have no idea where to start, can anyone help? Devin Curley (talk) 17:05, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Devin Curley. Please take a look at Preventing and repairing dead links for advice. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Devin Curley: (ec) WP:LINKROT is a common problem. Websites re-organize, change hands, or go away completely, and there is no automated way in which links/references to them get updated (not just on Wikipedia, but any web page). WP:ERB explains the basics of citing references and WP:LINKROT explains how to try to fix them. BTW, if you post the details of which articles and which references are problematic, we can offer a more specific solution. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:23, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

You can search for the dead URL in the Internet Archive Pelagic ( messages ) – (23:26 Tue 13, AEST) 13:26, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Which is of course mentioned in Cullen's advice, I'm just suggesting IA as one of the first resources to try. Pelagic ( messages ) – (23:28 Tue 13, AEST) 13:28, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Question 2 from me

Why we can't link blogger website in Wikipedia? Wpedia User (talk) 17:25, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Short answer, they aren't a verifiable, trustworthy source. Wikipedia strives to be as reliable as possible, so it requires trustworthy, third party sources for citation. A blog is just an opinion, in shortening the short answer. Le Panini (talk) 17:31, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

under certain rare circumstances, you can. See WP:SPS. Jaredroach (talk) 21:34, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Wpedia User: WP:RS explains what a reliable source is and why we require them. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Viewing the history of wikipedia pages I've gone to

When I use the Wikipedia mobile app I can easily view my history. I find that very useful at times. When I'm on wikipedia website using my laptop browser I don't see a way to do that. Is there a way to do that in Chrome for Windows 10 that I'm not se kt10056 Kt10056 (talk) 18:32, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

if you go your history and search en.wikipedia.org it should work Firestar9990 (talk) 19:17, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Kt10056: I use Chrome for Windows 10. Whilst there's no method I'm aware of within Wikipedia to show me which pages I have recently viewed, I can click the three vertical dots on the top right of the Chrome browser which opens up its menu and go to History (Shortcut: Ctrl+H). As Firestar tried to explain, you can filter the names of pages visited in the History search window. Thus chrome://history/?q=Wikipedia filters out  non-wikipedia pages. But if I happen to remember a critical word within a page title I know I've visited, I can type that in Chrome's History search box, and stand a good chance of funding it. Results display in chronological order - most recent first. If you do find articles you might be interested in revisiting later, you can always add them to your WATCHLIST, if logged in. That tools list of watched pages can then serve as a reminder of pages you might want to look at again. Regards Nick Moyes (talk) 20:09, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Review

'Articles for Creation' process flow chart for Reviewers (click to enlarge)

I would like to know how the review process work ? Skoobydoo95 (talk) 18:47, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Skoobydoo95. It's hard to answer simply because there are various types of 'Reviewing' that go on here. See Wikipedia:Reviewing, but the most common ones are new article reviewing - you can read more about the process at WP:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Reviewing_instructions, or click the workflow image I've included with this response. Then, once an article get through that process it goes through a second 'New Page Review' process before we allow Google to index it. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol for more details. If you're wondering why Draft:Dada Shyam was rejected at first review - the answer lies in the rejection notice at the top of that page. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:46, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Tired?

I was just wondering this because I saw that User:David notMD had to answer quite a few questions, but do the hosts (especially the ones who are most active, like David or User:Nick Moyes) start to feel any fatigue from answering so many questions? Like, does answering so many questions kind of burn you guys out? TheKingCartii (talk) 19:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm not gonna answer that because... zz zzzz zzzzzz zzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Nick Moyes (talk) 19:38, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm in the same time zone as Nick and my head is slowly falling into my cup of tea. Zindor (talk) 19:46, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Great question. You have the urge to go and do stuff on Wikipedia, and then you go and do it for a LONG time. Then after you've been doing it for hours you suddenly get tired, but keep editing anyways. Le Panini ^{(Talk to}_me?) 20:42, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Mostly, I alternate from my day jobs (semi-retired expert science consultant, newspaper columnist) to pushing Wikipedia articles to Good Article status. Thus, dropping in on Teahouse is a break from intense concentration, sort of like doing a few games of solitaire. David notMD (talk) 00:57, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Deprecated three incoming wikilink or article deletion policy?

Did there used to be a policy that an article had to have three incoming wikilinks or it would be deleted? I remember such a policy from perhaps a decade ago, but cannot find any mention of it now. Jaredroach (talk) 21:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC) Jaredroach (talk) 21:31, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

That's not the policy now, don't know if or when it changed. You can read about how to fix orphans at WP:ORPHAN. RudolfRed (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

@Jaredroach: fixing ping RudolfRed (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Nationality query

I am currently working on Stefania Berlinerblau's bio. So, she was born in Russia and immigrated to the United States. But she is also Jewish. How do I best describe her: Russian-American or Jewish-American? Thanks! Darwin Naz (talk) 23:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Darwin Naz. If Berlinerblau became an American citizen, then her nationality is American. Her ethnicity is a different matter. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Cullen³²⁸. The information goes in the first sentence of the lede. So she should just be called American? Darwin Naz (talk) 23:19, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Darwin Naz, the first sentence should include citizenship and reason for notability. That would include the ethnicity only if the ethnicity was central to notability, for example, as a rabbi or as an activist for African-American rights. She was a physician, which is not ethnic. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Cullen328 The ethnicity is part of her notability. Sources have described her as a Russian revolutionary and also the first Jewish woman to practice surgery in the US. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:36, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Darwin Naz, you asked for an opinion and I gave you mine. I do not think that her ethnicity belongs in the first sentence although it should obviously be discussed elsewhere in the article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok, Cullen328. Thanks for your input. Darwin Naz (talk) 20:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Codrus

For the page on Poseidon, can someone more technologically savvy than me add Codrus to the list of offspring? My source is the biographical note on Plato in Great Books of the Western World.--Mr. 123453334 (talk) 00:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

On looking up the actual Diogenes Laertius quote it should actually be Melanthus (different from Melantho which is already there).--Mr. 123453334 (talk) 01:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse! The article says that the father of Melanthus is Andropompus. Codrus is the son of Melanthus. So I don't think either should be added. Mr. Heart ^(talk) 02:41, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, sorry about that. The biography note was a bit vague and on reading the Laertius quote, he says they are "descendants" of Poseidon. Thanks for answering though.--Mr. 123453334 (talk) 03:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I would like to translate an article from English to another language (my first language). May I ask for help to avoid usual pitfalls (e.g. can I use the references from English et cetera)

I would like to translate the below mentioned article from English to German (my first language). Michael_Morton_(criminal_justice) While I have lived in the past 15 years in the U.S. I still speak German every day with my spouse who is German as well.

May I ask for help or a short mentioning of usual pitfalls (e.g. a question would be if I can use the references from the English language wikipedia article et cetera). What are the most important things to not get rejected, what should I look out for? Should I contact somebody from the German wikipedia beforehand? Is it just: DO IT, transmit it - done?

Thank you Steffencs (talk) 04:41, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Steffencs: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to expand it. See the guidance at WP:TRANSLATEUS. Note that each language Wikipedia has its own rules for articles, so what is acceptable on one may not be on the other. You will want to ask the the help desk for the Wikipedia you are planning to add the article to for guidance for this part and also if english references are OK, as references in native language may be preferred if they are available. RudolfRed (talk) 04:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Image permission

I would like to request permission to use an image of Hackney Road, Bethnal Green It was the corner of the street, now demolished I once lived in., and would like it to be included in my book that is subject to publication. My book is basically social history of the East End. All profits from the book are being donated to the British Heart Foundation & for Cancer Research.

I look forward to your reply.

Thank yu 2A02:C7D:780C:A600:FC17:ABF8:231C:CE1 (talk) 06:13, 13 October 2020 (UTC)Derek Houghton2A02:C7D:780C:A600:FC17:ABF8:231C:CE1 (talk) 06:13, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

You actually do not need to seek permission - the image is in the public domain. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh....} 06:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Need some editing.

Look at the Indian historical masters, for your kind information ,I want to tell you that Sushrut made many medicines and also wrote cures for many disease even before birth of Greek philosophers, this is just one example, Indian contributions are unsung,just look at history. Monnagaur99299 (talk) Monnagaur99299 (talk) 06:48, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Monnagaur99299: This page is for asking questions about the process of editing Wikipedia. Do you have such a question? If you choose to edit the corresponding Wikipedia articles, be sure to provide a reliable source. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 06:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Monnagaur99299: The article on Hippocrates says he is the "father of medicine" because reliable sources say he was: that is the standard for inclusion in Wikipedia. Your unsourced edit to the article was reverted because it was not constructive. Wikipedia has an article on Sushruta, which says he was one of several people regarded as the "father of surgery." —teb728 t c 08:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Read the question

Hi there,

Are users like myself with no special privileges allowed to give warnings to people who vandalise?

Thanks, Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

For some reason, a new section wasn't created when I asked my question. Read it above. Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:15, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hockeycatcat You don't need to have special privileges to issue a warning. 331dot (talk) 08:20, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

331dot Alright, cheers for that, mate. Hockeycatcat (talk) 08:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Why is wikipedia armenian?

Can someone from the team explain wtf are you protecting and supporting agressor and terrorsit people of armenia? Why are you sharing wrong information and articles about there fauls history and activitites? Why are you missleading people and young generations? You should be ashamed of your self!!! Whaiting for your reply... 81.21.86.39 (talk) 10:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm confused on your question. Are you saying there is misleading information in the Armenia article? If so, what issues are there specifically, so if you're right we can take steps to fix it. Le Panini (^{Talk to}_me?) 12:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a neutral point of view policy to represent fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic. However, if you find specific information which is factually inaccurate, then please do tell us or discuss on the talk page of the article in question so this can be fixed.Polyamorph (talk) 12:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I guess that this relates to Nagorno-Karabakh conflict --ColinFine (talk) 16:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Moving (to rename) a page

Hi I would like to rename the draft for an article I've been writing. Another editor suggested I use the "Move" command which apparently is to be found in the top right corner of my screen under the "More" menu but I can neither find the "More" menu or the "Move" command anywhere on my screen. Can someone help? Thanks. AlbusHaversham

AlbusHaversham (talk) 12:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi AlbusHaversham. I don’t think your account is old enough to be able to WP:MOVE pages yet; I believe only WP:AUTOCONFIRMED accounts can do that. So, you can either wait a bit more or post the names of the Draft you want to move and the title you want to move it to here so that another editor can do it for you. — Marchjuly (talk) 12:18, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks I have a draft article called Draft:Feline urethral obstruction. It is still a work-in-progress (I need to add references to it for example) so it has not been submitted yet. But in the meantime, I would like to rename the article to Draft:Feline urethral obstruction (blocked cat) whilst I work on it. Can an editor with appropriate permissions do this for me please?

Thanks.

AlbusHaversham (talk) 12:32, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@AlbusHaversham: I don't think a move here is necessary. On Wikipedia, words in parenthesis are known as disambiguation to distinguish between words that have multiple meanings. As neither Feline urethral obstruction or Blocked cat have articles written, you should choose the most commonly recognizable name as the article title, and have both words in the first sentence (as you've done). ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Once the article is in mainspace a WP:REDIRECT can take care of the alternative title. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: @Dodger67: The issue here is which audience you are talking about. A technical audience familiar with cats will know the topic to be feline urethral obstruction but a lay audience would never use or even know this is the "proper" term and if looking for the topic will look up blocked cat. Since both terms are used and Wikipedia caters for both audiences, I think both should be in the title. Or are you saying brackets can only be use for disambiguation and nothing else? Or in this case is the redirect the right option?

AlbusHaversham (talk) 14:56, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

An article should only have one title. Pick what you judge to be the WP:COMMONNAME as title, then start with something like "Feline urethral obstruction or blocked cat is..." and make the other one a redirect. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:41, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@AlbusHaversham: Yes, parenthesis in Wikipedia titles is almost always used for disambiguation. The reason you have to choose one is that people will search for "feline urethral obstruction" or "blocked cat" but never "Feline urethral obstruction (blocked cat)". Please don't make "feline urethral obstruction" and "blocked cat" both redirect to "Feline urethral obstruction (blocked cat)". ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 15:51, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you all for your help. I am new here so I am not sure of some of the rules so this is very useful. The background is my own cat died of a blockage. When he was sick I was desperate to get some understanding of it but I couldn't locate a credible source and under CoVid it was very hard to access vets easily. This has motivated me to improve Wikipedia's pages on cat health as they really are pretty basic or non-existent so other pet owners are well-informed and don't make the same mistakes as me. It is a niche interest admittedly but it has big repercussions if you are in this kind of emergency. I will keep the page as Feline Urethral Obstruction and then have a redirect from Blocked Cat.

AlbusHaversham (talk) 16:19, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi again AlbusHaversham. I think everyone who posted above would truly think that you’re intentions are the best after reading your last post; however, I also think that many if not all my feel (even a little) that there might be a chance that Wikipedia may not be a good fit for what you seem to be interested in doing.

Wikipedia has quite a few articles about health related matters (mostly human related but possibly pet related as well), but Wikipedia articles aren’t intended to be online directories or online MD type of pages where concerned persons can find out the latest information on such matters. In general, Wikipedia articles should reflect only what reliable (mainly secondary) sources should say about such a thing in a neutral point of view, but this is even more the case when it comes to health related subjects and such articles tend to be highly scrutinized by other editors to ensure they’re in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines. The same also applies to the sources cited in such articles. I’d imagine the scrutiny is just as great for pet health related articles. Wikipedia, therefore, might not be the best way for you to accomplish what you might be trying to achieve.

You won’t have any real editorial control over any such article, and even something a basic as the tittle of the article could be changed at anytime if there’s a Wikipedia policy based reason to do so. You won’t be able to lock others out of editing the article per se and anyone will be able to edit it. When there are disagreements, things are going to be expected to be resolved through Wikipedia:Dispute resolution.

It might turn out over time that a fairly good Wikipedia article ends up being written, but this could also be something that’s different from how you think things should be. I’m not trying to discourage you from trying to create this article, but just let you know about an aspect of Wikipedia editing that you might not be aware of.

Any article you try to create is going to need to be based on what reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia have said on the matter. Every claim or statement is going to need to be supported by a citation to such sources. Everything that is known to be true is going to need to be verifiable. Personal interpretations and research aren’t going to be allowed. Moreover, the sourcing, etc. is going to need to be strong enough and sufficiently show the subject matter meets Wikipedia:Notability for any such article to survive a deletion challenge. The purpose of such an article isn’t really, in my opinion, to make it and Wikipedia a credible source of information on the subject, but just to summarize perhaps what credible sources of information have said about the subject in a manner that complies with Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines. — Marchjuly (talk) 21:15, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

That said, based on [2] there's probably good sources to base an article on. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Is it illegal to add informative links on wikipedia?

I don't know why the admins always remove my external link which I add on any specific page which is totally relevant to the topic of that page. Is it called spamming to add informative and relevant links to Wikipedia? If yes, then the whole Wikipedia is a spam. They always say that I am advertising with the links...Did I run ads on your page without your permission? Okay, I got you...you don't want that a couple of users are derived from wikipedia to any other site...GREAT! You guys should remove the option of external links then. Keep up the good work of removing relevant and informative links from wiki pages. Yogesh1497 (talk) 12:25, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

There's always a reason for something being removed. What is the link that was removed? We could tell you what the reason is instead of jumping to conclusions. Le Panini (^{Talk to}_me?) 12:51, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Courtesy link: GEMS Education. Yogesh1497, the external link you provided is not relevant to the topic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but GEMS Education is a system of schools; 9 GEMS is a educational philosophy used by GIIS. GIIS does not seem to be part of GEMS education as it's not listed on its website. Even if relevant, we want to keep external link sections to a minimum, and often an official website is enough. You may want to review our external links guideline and see if your link still qualifies. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 12:55, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

The user would probably find that Global Indian International School is the article they are looking for adding information to. But given the article starts with a warning about it being an "Advertisement" this may mean that there is a concerted effort to add more relatively unimportant self promoting content. Koncorde (talk) 13:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

There have been comments that the article Global Indian International School is promotional at least as far back as 2012. -- Hoary (talk) 13:34, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Okay, what about the editing done by me on this page List of schools in Japan? Is GIIS not an international school that you don't want to be in the list of International schools (not certified by Japanese Government) & what about the external link added by me on Elementary schools in Japan. Most of the pages have a couple of external links which looks like advertisement why don't you remove them all? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_school#External_links External links Don't you guys think the external link included here [| International School Information] is advertising? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yogesh1497 (talk • contribs) 15:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC) --Yogesh1497 (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

What about your editing, you ask, Yogesh1497. Well, since you ask, it suggests to me that your objective here is advertising. Why don't we/I remove everything that looks like advertising? Because there are only so many hours in the day (and of course there are more enjoyable ways of spending them than removing advertisements). -- Hoary (talk) 22:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Sad to hear that there are Wikipedia moderators like Hoary who give more importance to enjoying their time rather than removing all spam links from pages. I can smell corruption on this digital platform already...LOL! Keep up the good work and enjoy your hours.--Yogesh1497 (talk) 10:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh in wikipedia - list of sanctuaries lack Telineelapuram and Telukunchi Bird Sanctuaries

Sir Andhra Pradesh article in Wikipedia, list of sanctuaries lack Telineelapuram and Telukunchi Bird Sanctuaries. May I edit and include it or I request the editors to go through and include. thanks Dr. M. Rama Murty --Bmantha (talk) 12:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC) Bmantha (talk) 12:49, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

The term "anyone can edit" means, well, anyone can edit! If you find something that's factual and has the proper citation, you can always click [edit source] and put it in yourself. Le Panini (^{Talk to}_me?) 12:57, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Bmantha: Sure! If you find something to be changed, be bold and change it! You are extended confirmed, so you should be able to edit Andhra Pradesh. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 12:59, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

request for permission to create article on List of butterflies in Andhra Pradesh in Wiki article 'List of butterflies of India' per state lists.

Sir, I would like to contribute the list of butterflies of Andhra Pradesh in Wiki article List of butterflies of India. When I selected the Andhra Pradesh under per state lists, page does not exist. I put a message to Kateshortforbob in his talk page, no response till now. It seems Kateshortforbob might have deleted the page due to some problem (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://bcshyd.com/articles/butterfly-checklists/40-andhra-pradesh/55-andhra-pradesh-checklist). I am also a new to this wikiworld and slowly learning how to create and edit articles. I am also new to the terminology also but confident and gradually learning. please guide me in this regard whether I can start a page on the List of butterflies of Andhra Pradesh under already existing article List of butterflies of India. thanking you, Dr. M. Rama Murty --Bmantha (talk) 13:01, 13 October 2020 (UTC) Bmantha (talk) 13:01, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bmantha: It seems like Kateshortforbob has not been editing very actively recently and may not answer soon. The deletion happened in 2010 and I'd say it's safe to give it another go. I'd suggest you to go through the articles for creation process and follow the tips at WP:YFA. Remember, the verifiability policy still applies to lists, so be sure to provide reliable sources backing up your claims. We have a manual of style for lists, so I also advise you to give that a read to understand how to do formatting. Good luck! ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Bmantha: If you plan to create a 'List of' page, based upon a published and sound butterfly checklist or similar academic publication, I'd say that would be a worthy project, especially if you make it a sortable table, where you can arrange entries alphabetically either by Common or Scientific Name, as well as by Conservation Status, and have the unsorted base table in systematic order. Anything else that simply comprises a random and tiny selection of species you happen to come across would just become a vanity project and an utter waste of time, serving more to mislead than it informs. I would not recommend such an undertaking to a complete novice unless they had the staying power to see it through to completion, and the biological skills to base it upon the best sources. I would also suggest creating it in an Excel spreadsheet before attempting converting into a table or list here. If you are not able to base it on a proper, academic source, then do make sure you make it clear that any such page is just a random agglomeration of species names, and should not be interpreted by users as anything more than that. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 13:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Article tagged for speedy deletion

Regina Hing Yue Tsang has been created recently. It has sufficient references. Can someone help remove the speedy deletion tag? SWP13 (talk) 15:32, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, Hkmdb and IMDb are not reliable sources as they are user edited, images are not usually acceptable sources either I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 15:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@SWP13: Do note that it's perfectly acceptable to cite Chinese sources as well, as long as it meets WP:RS. Just remember to specify the language of the source in the reference; if you're using a citation template, you can do so with the language parameter, like so: |language = Chinese. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 15:56, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Question 3 from me

How to enable and use twinkle gadget and how to use it? I have heard about it but haven't used it yet. Wpedia User (talk) 16:05, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Wpedia User, Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! Go to Preferences > Gadgets > Browsing > Click "Twinkle" > Save changes! I can help you with Twinkle, I just need to know what specifically you want to do with it. Happy editing! Mr. Heart ^(talk) 16:10, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

No feedback from talk page

Good afternoon all,

I've been having an issue lately with a few pages I'd like to edit. I know that WP encourages being bold with edits, but I have come across a few pages that I want to change but they aren't topics that I usually work with. My real issue is I have tried commenting on both the page's talk page AND the main project page and I've gotten no replies (or one reply saying we need other people to reply).

So I guess my question is, where do I go next to ask for consensus if the talk page and project page yield nothing?

For example, here is my comment on Roald Dahl's talk page:

• I am wondering why the “reputed antisemitism” section is placed in the Post War Life section of the article. Would it not make more sense to have a “controversy” section OR to have the antisemitism part in the “Legacy” section, since most of the discussion of his Anti-Semitic comments has occurred after his death? I don’t want to debate about whether or not he was anti-Semitic, just asking about formatting. Feel free to link me to whichever wikipedia policy is being followed for this if I am simply unaware of the rule here.

I only received one reply, although I checked and there are 300+ people watching the page. I then commented on the children's literature project's article discussion page and did not receive a reply at all. I honestly don't feel confident enough to make an edit without further advice from others. I've had a similar issue with a food related page, a cartoon related page, etc.

So where do I go to next to receive advice? It seems wrong to take every specific edit question to the teahouse (although you guys are always very nice and helpful!). Apathyash (talk) 16:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Apathyash: You made your case and asked for feedback, so if there's no opposition to your proposal, then the next step is to boldly make the edits you proposed! A lot of people watch articles but don't pay attention to talk pages, so making the edit brings it to the attention of more people who can give you feedback. Consensus can be built through editing too, so if people want to make further improvements they can. Wikis work best through editing, and it's why WP:Be bold is one of our oldest policies. — Wug·a·po·des​ 06:28, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Signpost

Can two people write signpost draft? Tbiw (talk) 16:42, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Tbiw! Anyone can write and submit a draft to The Signpost. See the about page for information on contributing and the submissions desk where you can submit a draft. There can definitely be co-authors. However, there is no guarantee that the piece will be published just because you've written it. You may want to reach out to Smallbones, the Editor-in-Chief with a proposal. Best, Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 16:56, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Tbiw:. Thanks for the question. My first response to getting this question at the Teahouse was to see how long you've been editing. It would be difficult to report on Wikipedia IMHO, if you'd only been editing for a month or so - but there may be some exceptions to that general rule based on your other experience and what you want to write about. It looks like you've been editing for almost a year so I don't see any problem. If two people want to work together that's fine too - if you work well together! I'd need to know which of the two to communicate with about any needed changes. If you have further questions, please email me HERE or via the "email user" link on my user page. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 00:14, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Sidebar?

I am working on a page in my sandbox just to figure out formatting before attempting to publish anything. Everything seems really simple, except I can't seem to figure out what I can only call the "sidebar." It's the space to the right of most pages in a vertical rectangular box, usually with a logo at the top (if a company page), and then quick information like "founded" - "website" - "number of employees" etc. There's usually an image at the top as well. I figured this would be under the "insert" drop down, but I'm not seeing anything that looks to be the right thing. But it has to be pretty simply since nearly every page has one. Help when you can. Thanks! Jthorp72 (talk) 19:29, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Jon, we call them infoboxes (help page, manual of style, search) and there is a vast range of them to cater for different subject areas. Each has its own template.

Once you've worked out which to use, you could create one from scratch in in the Visual Editor via Insert – Template. But due to the large number of fields, you’ll probably find it vastly easier to use source editing mode and copy the code from a similar article or from the template's documentation.

I don’t see anything in your sandbox, do you have an alternate account?

— Pelagic ( messages ) – (06:09 Wed 14, AEST) 20:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi,Pelagic, I do have it in my sandbox currently - and only have one account - but I'm assuming I need to hit "publish" before anyone else can see it? Or is there another way to save it? I'm not ready to try to truly publish this page as I want to review it thoroughly before trying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jthorp72 (talk • contribs) 20:26, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Jthorp72: The "Publish changes" button actually just saves your changes to your sandbox (which anyone can see if he or she knows where to look). Actually moving your sandbox to the main article space ("truly publishing" it) involves a different process. Deor (talk) 21:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Pelagic: Ok - I've hit publish so this is at least saved and viewable internally. Still working on uploading logos, images and putting the right documentation to indicate my affiliation with this company. Not completely clear on that process yet, but working through the help materials.

Atlantic hurricane season

Added heading Pelagic ( messages ) – (06:11 Wed 14, AEST) 20:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I Need help on the timeline of the 2020 Atlantic Hurricane Season. I Added Omar (August) and 8 Days Of September! TD 15 (Omar) August, September And So Far October? Hurricanestudier123 (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Increasing

Hi Teahouse! I'm new here using Wikipedia and i'd like to ask "How can i make my Articles become better and famous? Helder9090 (talk) 20:14, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Helder9090! I give you Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything. See also Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Using the "status" parameter in an infobox

I'm currently in a discussion with another editor about the use of the "status" parameter in infoboxes, particularly as it pertains to government officials in an acting capacity. I typically just do a line break with the acting in parenthesis, as is common practice and that's how I had changed that editor's formatting, to conform with like-minded infoboxes. He now says I should self-revert because as it pertains to that article, it should remain and it doesn't pertain to how other articles are formatted, as per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS I can't find anything that relates specifically to the use of the status parameter and so I came here to find out where to find guidance on how to format an infobox and particularly when to use the "status" parameter. Thanks! Snickers2686 (talk) 21:07, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Snickers2686. Many infobox templates have a corresponding documentation page where you can find information on how the template should be used; so, perhaps try checking there. Sometimes, you may also find relevant discussion on a template's talk page or its talk page's archives; so, that can be a good place to check as well. Other than that, you or the other person may need to start a discussion about this on either the article's talk page (if you're just interested in how this should be done for that one particular article) or the template's talk page (if you're more broadly interested in how it should be done for all articles where the template is used). Unless there's a technical reason why one way should be preferred over the other, this probably should be treated as a content dispute where both you and the other editor try to resolve things per Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and avoid anything resembling edit warring.

As for "OTHERSTUFFEXISTS" or WP:OTHERCONTENT, that is a relevant point to bring up; at the same time, there's also some value in being consistent when using things like infobox templates. Which should be valued more is probably something that's best resolved through discussion. FWIW, {{Infobox officeholder}} looks like it's being used in lots and lots of articles; so, even a very small change is likely to have a huge ripple effect. I would be very WP:CAUTIOUS and try to get as many editors involved from relevant WikiProjects before tyring to tweak or otherwise change that template. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:54, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

8x8

 69.72.125.98 (talk) 21:13, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

64. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:37, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång, honestly I don’t think we should be answering questions that are obvious trolling. Removing the entry entirely would be a better route to follow as we wouldn’t want to be feeding the trolls. Celestina007 (talk) 22:29, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007 That works too, though from where I'm sitting this isn't obvious trolling, it could be an incomplete question or something like that about 8x8. At this level, I consider it harmless, and my reply Teahouse-friendly. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Draft:United Kingdom internal market

I am creating an article Draft:United Kingdom internal market, but I am waiting for the Internal Market Bill has passed before publishing it and need a second opinion to ensure my article meets Wikipedia’s WP:NPOV & WP:SIGCOV.

I would also like someone external to help edit the page, as having input from a variety of editors other than me will help to improve and expand the article and fill in areas that I may have missed. ChefBear01 (talk))

ChefBear01, I'd ask Britishfinance to take a look, but they seem to have disappeared for now. You can try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Economics. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:06, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Uploading/Using a Company Logo

I'm working to create a Wikipedia article about a client. They provided me with their logo to use. The logo is trademarked, and they provided it to me to use for this purpose, so I'm not sure if this is a free use or non-free use. Would I just use the Wikipedia Commons upload form to make this image available for the company page or is there another process that needs to be used? Otherwise, they provided me with some non-copyright images to use for other page photos. I imagine these can just be uploaded using the commons process?

FYI - I did add the disclosure to my profile page about this being a paid effort. Though as a marketing agency we are doing this gratis for the client (to gain experience), I'm paid by the agency, so I believe that disclosure is still warranted.

Thanks! Jthorp72 (talk) 21:37, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Jthorp72. Thank you for being open about your status as a paid editor. I would urge you to replace "establish a company page for a client" by "create a Wikipedia article about my client" in your thinking: a Wikipedia article is not for the benefit of its subject, and as it in no way represents them, "setting up" or "establishing" is not an appropriate phrase. As for the logo: permission is irrelevant, unless your client is willing to license the logo in such a way that anybody may reuse or alter it for any purpose, commercial or otherwise, (which is unlikely). Logos are normally treated as non-free and uploaded directly to Wikipedia (Commons does not accept non-free content). One of the non-free content criteria is that such content may be used only in articles, not in drafts, so please wait until your draft has been accepted as an article before you upload it. --ColinFine (talk) 21:47, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Also, Wikipedia articles are warts-and-all, so if something happens that negatively reflects on the subject and it hits the news media, you will not be able to demand it be removed. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Hasteur Hasteur Ha-- oh....} 23:38, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Pronunciation

I suggest that every article includes the IPA pronunciation of the person or place the article is about. Seamus Moores (talk) 00:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Seamus Moores. That sounds like a suggestion that goes beyond the scope of what's comnonly handled here at the Teahouse. You might want to try posting about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) to see what others think. It's also quite possible that someone else came up with the same idea before; so, maybe first checking Wikipedia:Perennial proposals would be a good idea as well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Regarding Citations

Hi Community, It's nice to be part of this beautiful place. I want to know if I have citations which are like physical documents. How do I incorporate them to Wikipedia? Fibrointech (talk) 01:35, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Fibrointech. All citations are expected to be to reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia. Part of this definition is that a reliable source needs to be published and accessible so as to allow proper verfication and assessment. Sources aren't required to be available online and can still be cited as explained in WP:SAYWHERE as long as they're considered reliable. In other words, there's no need to upload a copy of a document to Wikipedia and in fact doing so might actually create more problems than it solves. In addition, documents (personal or otherwise) are generally considered to be WP:PRIMARY (or WP:BLPPRIMARY) types of sources, and there are lots of restrictions placed on how they can be used even when they are deemed to be reliable. For the most part, Wikipedia tends to prefer WP:SECONDARY reliable sources whenever such are available. Bascially, I've just given you a very general answer because your question lacked specifics. If you can provide more information about what kind of document you want to cite and for what type of information you want to cite it for (even the name of the article you want to cite it in), then perhaps another Teahouse host will be able to give you a more specific answer. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Fibrointech, you can cite physical documents as long as they have been "published" according to our definition. Documents that are in a publicly accessible archive usually meet that definition. To actually cite them, you can use one of our citation templates. For things like books or magazines, you can use {{Cite book}} or {{Cite magazine}} just without the website related stuff. If the document is in an archive, you can use the {{Cite archive}} template. When filling out the citation, you should provide as much information as you have, but at least enough that someone else could find it themselves. Let me know here or on my talk page if you need help with citing a specific document. — Wug·a·po·des​ 06:02, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Award significance

Hello all. I recently submitted an article at articles for creation but it was declined due to notability concerns. I also wrote a message on the draft's talk page saying I believed that the draft passed WP:ANYBIO because the person had won a Daytime Emmy Award which, I believe, satisfies criteria 1: The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times. The reviewer either ignored the message, didn't see or didn't think the award was significant enough. He didn't seem to talk about my message in his comment and only seemed focused on WP:NACTOR. Is a Daytime Emmy Award not well-known or significant? If it isn't, could you please point me to an award that is? Thanks. Pamzeis (talk) 02:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Pamzeis, perhaps the reviewer didn't see your message. Did you try reaching out to Robert McClenon? It's Draft:Isaac Kragten, right? Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:37, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Why did you change womxn back to women

The event's name is Womxn's March on Seattle, not Women's March on Seattle. It was not vandalism. 24.198.164.225 (talk) 03:05, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Not sure what you are referring to. As your link shows, the article is titled with Womxn not Women. RudolfRed (talk) 03:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

I see now you are referring to an edit to Womyn which was incorrectly reverted and is now fixed. RudolfRed (talk) 03:44, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Occupation error

If an occupation has an incorrectly form of demonym, whats the way to change that? Pimentagbuenogross (talk) 04:56, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Pimentagbuenogross, can you be more specific? What article are you talking about? Calliopejen1 (talk) 05:50, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Pimentagpuenogross, welcome to the Teahouse. It's hard to give you any answer without specifics, but I'm guessing that your question relates to some sort of conflict between ethnic groups. Wikipedia does its best to stay neutral in such cases, but takes such things as names from the bulk of the reliable sources which cover the conflict: this often leads people who support one side or the other to claim that Wikipedia is biased against their side. Please look at the talk page of the article in question to see whether this matter has already been discussed (you may need to search the archives of the talk page), and read those discussions. If it has not been discussed, or you think there is more information that is relevant to the discussion, then please open a new discussion on the talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 09:36, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Photo Competition Submission Question

Hello and thank you for taking the time to read my question.

Perhaps I'm uploading photos improperly to the commons.

I have been submitting photos for the October, photo competition. Sometimes I use the "Open Street Maps" (https://wlm-maps.toolforge.org/#19/49.29116/-122.84386) tool in order to upload the photos. After uploading the photos I see my contributions (https://guc.toolforge.org/?by=date&user=JJGTCA), on this page. From what I understand the green, monument tag on the "Open Street Maps" is supposed to turn red, after a photo is submitted. It seems like non of the monument photos that I have taken and submitted have turned the tags from red to green.

For example, - On this list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_historic_places_in_the_Greater_Vancouver_Regional_District) monument 2586 appears to not have a picture. This absence is confirmed on the "Open Street Maps" (https://wlm-maps.toolforge.org/#19/49.29116/-122.84386). - But I have uploaded a picture (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GRO2_JJGTCA.jpg) of monument 2586.

Is it possible that I'm not uploading files properly, or I'm being impatient?

Thank you for your consideration.

JJGTCA JJGTCA (talk) 05:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi JJGTCA. Wikipedia and Commons are sister projects, but they each have their own policies and guidelines as well as their own community of editors; so, if you cannot find the answer to your question in c:Commons:Photo challenge (I think that's what you're asking about), then perhaps you should try asking at c:Commons:Help desk. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:31, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Huffpost, a reliable source?

Please let me know if I can add references from this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 06:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Editingwork8: there does not appear to be a current consensus for or against HuffPost. Therefore, individual discussions are likely needed. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 08:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@ Victor Schmidt mobil Okay, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Editingwork8, you can look at WP:HUFFPO, which says essentially the same thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@ Gråbergs Gråa Sång Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editingwork8 (talk • contribs) 08:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Problematic groups given status of religion on wikipedia?

Was trying to edit Jammu, so tought of having a discussion first at talk page. The foundational teachings via translations of Old testament, New testament and Quran are problematic since they inform GOD forgives. This raises a big problem.

The act of forgiving ignorant people do as they don't realize which choice is perfect. Thereby in ignorance they choose a choice that is wrong. To forgive at first a person has to be wrongfully angry or resentful about someone. Without which a morally valid reason to forgive does not arise. It is the ignorant who wrong, and they eventually find a morally valid reason to forgive.

GOD is perfect. Without doing a wrong, the need to forgive does not arise. So, how will GOD who's perfect, all knowing (even knows past, present and future), and pious be able to forgive without at first doing a wrong? The situation for GOD to be able to forgive while being perfect, all knowing, and pious is perhaps impossible, since at that time he wouldn't wrong?

While such is the case, how can old testament, new testament, or Quran be a valid teaching by GOD? Without they being valid teaching, how do they be considered as a religion itself?

If not a religion, isn't it a moral duty of every human on earth to remove these teachings? Highlighting certain topics on the page Jammu is Undue?

If correct, how appropriately highlight the same at Jammu talk and clean the page? Gub Sub Dub (talk) 09:03, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Jammu is about a city, not sure how the above applies. WP:RNPOV and WP:RSPSCRIPTURE may be of some help concerning how WP approaches the topic of faith/religion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

​Our article on Jammu contains no discussion of theology, so I can't say I see what you're referring to. In general though, we just summarize what reliable scholarly theological sources say. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:18, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Audio

Which type of device should i use to record audiofor pronunciation Alvin kipchumba (talk) 09:01, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

​You can for example use your phone, the quality of mobile phone recordings is usually good enough. The audio doesn't need to be perfect to be helpful to readers. The only thing you need to have in mind is that you need to convert your file to an .OGG file since Commons doesn't allow regular users to upload MP3s. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:54, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

How can I convert it to an .OGGAlvin kipchumba (talk) 10:06, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Self publish

If one who is notable, but does not have many articles on websites or newspapers what he/she can do? can they self-publish their articles? and If yes what type of self-publish article is considered as reliable sources? Please explain it briefly. Wpedia User (talk) 10:06, 14 October 2020 (UTC)