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May 16

Green ribbon

I see that in Wikipedia the green lapel ribbon is used to denote mental health issues. It is also used to denote Lyme Disease. As a person whose Lyme Disease is in remission, I am aware of the use of a green ribbon to denote the disease. Can you please add this fact to Wikipedia under what a green ribbon means.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:c660:1200:150c:d0d1:3c5c:b952 (talk • contribs) 16 May 2021 03:07 (UTC)

You will first need to supply a reliable source for that assertion.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:03, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

To expand on Shantavira's reply: everything in Wikipedia needs to be sourced to a reliable published source, because otherwise a reader has no way of verifying it. Your personal knowledge (or mine) is not acceptable. If you can find a source (such as a major newspaper, or a book from a reputable publisher), please make a suggestion on the talk page of the particular article, citing the source. --ColinFine (talk) 20:47, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

User box templates?

I've looked in the galleries and haven't been able to find any userbox templates for

• Enjoys fiction by Lois McMaster Bujold
• Enjoys music by Antonín Dvořák
• Enjoys time travel fiction
• Supports the fair use and first sale rights subverted by the DMCA (ptui!)

Has anybody created templates for these? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 03:26, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@Chatul: If they're not in the userboxen lists, probably not. Confidently not for Bujold because I skimmed the Template namespace links and User namespace links (userboxen are generally hosted in one or the other) and found nothing. For more popular articles that's probably too difficult. In any case, it's likely quicker to pick a userbox style you like, copy the code into a user subpage (or template space if you think others will find it useful) and change the text/image to what you want. If you struggle with this, ping me with the best you can do and I'll try to touch it up. — Bilorv (talk) 14:01, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@Bilorv: I started with User:Chatul/Userboxen/Smetana and wanted to replace the image with

[[Image:Vysehrad as seen over the Vltava from Cisarska louka 732.jpg|thumb|right|Vyšehrad above the Vltava River]] to get

Vyšehrad above the Vltava River

However, I can't figure out how to rescale it or find a wikilink for a rescaled version. I also can't find the documentation for the syntax of the link, specifically the thumb and right between the link and its name; all that I could find in Help:wikilink was the single piped parameter for the name.

I've got quite a few userboxen on my user page, and wonder whether there is a way to group them into collapsible subsets.

I'm also trying to find a userbox endorsing Elizabeth Warren.

Thanks. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 17:15, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@Chatul: [[Image:Vysehrad as seen over the Vltava from Cisarska louka 732.jpg|70px]], as in the userbox you linked, works (and you can adjust "70", the number of pixels per row and column, as you require). As for the grouping, there's a collapsible option suggested at Wikipedia:Userboxes#Grouping userboxes. — Bilorv (talk) 17:55, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

The {{userboxgroup}} template did the trick. Thanks. 20:39, 16 May 2021 (UTC)Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk)

Meet Ajetomobi oluwatobiloba joshua

Meet oluwatobiloba Joshua the male fashion model causing reactions with beautiful pictures of him

Do you have a question? Theroadislong (talk) 13:52, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Add an other language version of an article.

Good morning, good evening.

I was thinking that I can put the article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orenia in French but I don't really know how to do it...

If can someone help me about how can I editing this article I would be grateful!

Have a good Sunday everyone ! Thank you Oren M — Preceding unsigned comment added by EauReine (talk • contribs) 15:07, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

EauReine, there is advice at Wikipedia:Translate us, in particular, policies at Fr Wikipedia may be different and that you need reasonable fluency in the target language. TSventon (talk) 15:22, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Recent edit

Regarding my recent edit to the JW Player page - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=JW_Player&oldid=1023280905 I feel my edit was justified to balance the comment I added to. The edit I made was correct and not fabricated. Regards Tim Higgins — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.226.170 (talk) 18:04, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

The comment you made was editorialising and did not provide any extra information. It was telling readers what to think. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:20, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Using image as userpage background

Hi
I've previously seen people use images as the background of their user pages on English Wikipedia. When you hover your cursor over these images, they appear to not link to anything and are therefore non-interactive. I've also seen users superimpose text, tables and infoboxes over these background images. Does anyone know how I would be able to do such a thing for my own userpage? HeyitsBen ^talk 18:37, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

HeyitsBen, can you point to an example? LittlePuppers (talk) 01:26, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@HeyitsBen and LittlePuppers: Because it is not possible to insert images into the background-image property (the server will remove it while parsing because URLS are regarded as unsafe) I suspect this has been done using a complex css construct. But I would need to take a looo at the individual case, too. Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:21, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

External link clarification

Regarding external links: I read WP:ELNO but there are a couple of cases that are not clear to me. (1) Is it OK to link to lyrics websites in articles about a song? (2) ELNO says don't link to mirrors or forks of Wikipedia, but we have Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks/ABC and other pages like it which provide such links. Is that OK? RudolfRed (talk) 18:52, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

WP:ELNO applies only in the main space. Ruslik_Zero 20:26, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 20:46, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

But, RudolfRed, if the lyrics website is violating copyright, then you may not link to it. I suspect that many of them do so, though I don't know for sure. --ColinFine (talk) 20:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

We shouldn't be linking to copyright violations in any namespace, ELNO be damned. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 04:15, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Does CHAOS (operating system) really have a promotional tone to it?

I scanned over the article and nothing sounded promotional to me. I'm still new so I'm not sure if there's something I'm missing or if the tag should just be removed. If there is something I would really appreciate it if someone could show me what it is! PeanutButterPopcorn (talk) 23:53, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@PeanutButterPopcorn: The headings are very suspect; you would be hard-pressed to find them on other articles. The way the article is structured (especially with headings like Security assessed by and Security provided by) looks to promote certain entities. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:04, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I removed the sections consisting only of references. They can always be brought back if there is something to actually write in them. JIP | Talk 01:05, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

May 17

My own photo has been "speedily removed" from my wiki page

How do I post my own photo to my own wiki page? How do I "Verify" my own photo taken by a family member? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Count Erich Manfred von Siebenburg (talk • contribs) 00:00, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Whoever holds the copyright to the image (which, in this case, is most likely that family member) needs to go through the procedure at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. This is a requirement; we do not allow fair-use images of living people. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 04:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Count Erich Manfred von Siebenburg, here's the easiest way: Assuming the image hasn't been published before (social media, imdb, whatever), have the photographer upload it with the process that starts here. That is a link to Commons, a sister-site to WP where we keep free images. If this is about Stephen M. Ryder, that article is likely to be deleted per WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. You need to cite references, and good ones. WP is very strict about copyright, so copypasting text from other websites is not allowed. See also WP:COI. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Public defamation

Hello,

Recently we have had a lot of silly edits to our companies description. Most likely school students who think it's funny to change the description of our school and edit the name of our Principal. We have updated this a few times and they keep changing it.

I am wondering if there is any way we can stop this from happening...?

Best regards John Unwin Business Manager

You need to register an account, disclose your relationship, and edit only through that disclosed account. And that's before factoring in that you haven't said what the article is. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 04:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

This must be about Heritage College Sydney. It may warrant semi-protection, regardless of the status of the OP. Maproom (talk) 07:04, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Citation #5 at Dan Torten Fixing style/layout errors

 Courtesy link: Dan Torten

I found a working link at the wayback machine but when I change it, references 1 and 2 magically break:

Cite warning: <ref> tag with name <URL_HERE> cannot be previewed because it is defined outside the current section or not defined in this article at all.

DarklitShadow (talk) 05:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@DarklitShadow: Nothing to worry about. It basically means that ref number 2 is not defined in the section you are currently editing, meaning the software doesn't know what it should display there. See named references for more information about reusing refs in different sections. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:20, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@DarklitShadow: I fixed the reference by editing the whole article which avoids the error message explained above. TSventon (talk) 07:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

William Bentvena

In the section on William Bentvena's murder, the article states "At the time of his murder in 1970, Bentvena was 49 years old and was a respected and feared made man in Gotti's crew and in the Gambino crime family.[2]" From what I understand, John Gotti wasn't inducted into the Gambino Crime Family until 1977--7 years after William Bentvena was killed. John Gotti was not an official member of the Gambino Family in 1970 and so he would not have been in charge of a crew and William Bentvena would not be working under Gotti. Gotti would have been a mere associate of the family when Bentvena was alive and Bentvena would have outranked him.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Odyswood (talk • contribs) 17 May 2021 05:36 (UTC)

The best place to discuss this is Talk:William Bentvena, where you're more likely to find editors who understand the issues. Maproom (talk) 07:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

The way it is phrased in the article ("a respected and feared made man in Gotti's crew and in the Gambino crime family"), as well as from the snippet I could read from the book that referenced it, it implies that Gotti's crew weren't part of the Gambino organization. I'm no expert on this. Is there any reason for Gotti not to have his own independent little gang at this time? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Auto-correction tool

I am trying to make a simple tool that will help to automatically replace a user’s wrong using characters with the correct one in Mon Wiktionary in MediaWiki:Common.css. It doesn’t work. Anyone can help me for that? --Htawmonzel (talk) 09:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Htawmonzel: You cannot place rich html using CSS, you need to use JavaScript (so wikt:mnw:MediaWiki:Common.js) for that. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank @Victor Schmidt: I can't make it works. It might be incorrect script. If you know please help. --Htawmonzel (talk) 11:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Posting

There is something that I want to post that doesn't fit in any of the categories. Where do I post it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.128.236 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, what do you mean by "post"? Can you provide some more details about what you are trying to do, so that we can help you do it? --Jayron32 13:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I mean what I am doing right now. (Just wanted to say that I come from the LifeWiki ( userpage). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.128.236 (talk) 14:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia. We are not associated with LifeWiki. There are thousands of wikis. They just use the same software as us. If you want to post about Wikipedia then please say what the post is about so we can say where it belongs. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

It is that why does Wikipedia show the IP addresses of people who haven't registered after they edit something?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.128.236 (talk • contribs)

Because it is a unique identifier. There has been much back and forth discussion over the years about whether we should even allow unregistered users. There is a project in the works to try to anonymize IP users, though we're unsure when it will be finished. If you do not wish your IP to be public, you should register an account. AdmiralEek ^{Thar she edits!} 15:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

sister sledge

I Kathy Sledge am The United States trademark owner of the mark "Sister Sledge" as a Member manager of "Sister Sledge" LLC I also control the international trademark. Presently Wikipedia contains information that is false and "Self serving" to an editor. Grossly claiming false information concerning membership which We have corrected on more that one occasion only to be re-editing with un verified information. We are informing you of this in order to have its current unauthorized editor banned from making further false claims. I (we) can support this information by providing official trademark ownership certificates as well as corporate by laws.

Please advise

Kathy Sledge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sledge scamlikely (talk • contribs) 16:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sledge scamlikely: What exactly is your concern with the page? What sentences do you take issue with? AdmiralEek ^{Thar she edits!} 16:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Sledge scamlikely, the proper place to discuss your concerns is Talk:Sister Sledge. Please familiarize yourself with the guidelines about editing with a WP:COI and also read WP:OWNERSHIP. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:41, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I see there's been some to-ing and fro-ing in Sister Sledge about who is, or has been, a member of the group. But none of the disputants have provided references to reliable published sources. Wikipedia prefers to settle such disputes by use of evidence, rather than by legal action. Maproom (talk) 06:58, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Which template would I use to cite a city report?

I'm trying to cite a city council report PDF in this draft. I don't think I did right because it leads to a 404 webpage instead of the PDF I read. Does anyone know how to fix this? Clovermoss (talk) 17:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Clovermoss: I think I fixed it; though please check, to make sure it goes to the page you intended to reference. Eagleash (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Eagleash: I just checked and it's fixed. Thank you for figuring out what went wrong. Clovermoss (talk) 18:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Connect edits to existing pages

Hi. I won't keep you for too long, but the thing is that I've been looking up old tv shows and series for kids and young adults. I've personally had shows which names I couldn't remember prying on my mind. And sadly, the pages Wikipedia had to offer were rather short, so I decided to do something about that. I'm clearly not the only one trying to find old shows and series nowadays.

So I'm pretty much ready to start editing the list, but there's one problem. See, I'm actually Swedish, and a lot of shows were imported, so while I couldn't find too many pages in Swedish I found a lot in English and a few other languages. So now I'm just wondering how to connect my edits (which will be in Swedish) to their respective, English, pages. And you know here on Wikipedia, if something is marked blue, it's clickable. If it's marked red, it's still clickable, but it doesn't lead you anywhere. And I would of course want my edits to be blue marked. I hope this can be done, somehow.

Any serious help will be greatly appreciated, so thanks in advance!

Note: this question has already been answered at the WP:Teahouse. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Patton a word

Can I put a new word on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.250.210.1 (talk) 18:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

In the general run of things, no. See WP:NEO. Eagleash (talk) 18:55, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

submission approval

hi wikipedia team,

happy monday, i wanted to check in to see if progress has been made in my wikipedia submission from February. let me know if i can do anything to expedite approval. thank you!

This regards Draft:Alix Peabody. In short: its not suitable for inclusion as it is basically an advertisement. It is not written in the neutral and encyclopedic tone of an encyclopedia. It is written more like a puff piece meant to make the subject seem more important. Our articles stick to the facts, not emotions. AdmiralEek ^{Thar she edits!} 19:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I have declined the submission and left a few notes. LittlePuppers (talk) 13:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Mildred Mottahedeh

Mildred Mottahedeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have tried to edit my late aunt’s biography several times to change incorrect information. Someone continues to revert it back and tell me that I am misinformed and have no proof of my allegations. Well,the proof is in the bibliography. My aunt, a major reproducer of Chinese porcelain was sometimes a reproduction of herself!

How can Wikipedia be trusted, if someone with incorrect information is allowed to continually edit?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AuntRuthWurtzel (talk • contribs) 20:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@AuntRuthWurtzel: Your changes were reverted as no Independent, reliable sources were provided. Wikipedia reports on what has been written in the sources; personal knowledge is original research and cannot be verified. This has been explained at your talk page. Please review all the information provided there. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

biography

hello please help me edit a Biography that has libelous poorly sourced information .— Preceding unsigned comment added by StateStreet6 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 17 May 2021 21:05 (UTC)

• Note: Likely relates to Robert Teitel. Eagleash (talk) 21:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

StateStreet6 (ec) I assume this is related to Robert Teitel. If there is libelous content about you on Wikipedia, please follow the instructions at WP:LIBEL. 331dot (talk) 21:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I removed the content as it was (as is the rest of the article) unsourced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:15, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Non-Census sources in the US Census population infobox

(Very good discussion moved to User talk:Prussian Fool to preserve it.) -Arch dude (talk) 14:50, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Arcane template question about sfn's within notetag text

Hi, in articles with large numbers of citations, I use sfn's and template notetag to remove the inline <ref> clutter in the interests of making it less confusing for new contributors to make additions. However in the case of notetagged material, if it has an sfn within it, I cannot place the note at the end of the article and refer to it by name, or I will get redtext warnings that the sfn referents were not resolved. An example may make this more clear. For example, in the Trumpism article, notetag Jones2012 works just fine because it has no sfns. But notetag|name=Goldberg1 text does not if it is moved to the notes section as with the Jones note. If you try this and preview the result, you will see the error red text I am talking about. I have tried Ref=sfnref to address what I anticipate is a template processing order of dereferencing issue, but to no avail. Putting <ref>'s in the notetag works, but this solution junks up the footnote section with voluminous material that belongs in the bibliography section. Any suggestions? I can live with the inline notetag clutter as you see in the example article but I suspect others may have found a solution to this annoying situation. If there is no immediate answer, please ping me even if your suggested solution occurs to you years from now. J JMesserly (talk) 22:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@J JMesserly: I can't think of a solution right now, but you'll get better answers if you ask this where the sfn nerds hang out: Template talk:Sfn. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

J JMesserly, this seems to be the same issue that prevents references from citing references. The workaround is using {{#tag:ref}} as described at Help:Reftags#Defining a reftag function and mw:Help:Cite#Substitution and embedded parser functions. The examples given there are simple; I don't know how complicated it would be to do what you need. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@J JMesserly: I think you've run into a long-standing bug in the software, phab:T22707. Although you can use <ref>...</ref> tags and {{sfn}} footnotes inside {{notetag}} notes, it all falls apart if you try to define the notetag footnotes inside the {{notefoot}}. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Publishing my biography

Hello, i am a signer and i would like to publish my article, can you help me with that?

here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eliasgaouro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliasgaouro (talk • contribs) }

@Eliasgaouro: I am really rather enjoying listening to your music as I write this, and I have held back from immediately deleting your userpage for a moment, despite it being totally in contravention of our policies. See WP:USERPAGE to appreciate that a userpage is purely there for you to tell people about your interests in editing Wikipedia, and should not resemble a Wikipedia article. Based on the sources given, you do not come across as a Notable Person. I am confident another administrator will soon drop by and delete that page, per WP:PROMOTION and WP:NOTWEBHOST. Sorry about that, but this is an encyclopaedia of notable things, not a place for everyone on the planet to promote themselves. (Still loving your music, though!) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:53, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

PS: What has being a signer got to do with anything? Nick Moyes (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I believe that should be singer not signer. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:30, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

May 18

St Monica's College Page

Hi all,

Just wanting to know how to make a page unable to be edited or protected. I from the Promotional team from the College who has updated the Wikipedia page. However, I have seen that people can still edit and change the updated version.

Is there anything I can do to ensure that my page remains protected?

Many thanks,

St Monica's College Promotions Team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PromotionsandEvents (talk • contribs)

@PromotionsandEvents: Pages are protected for reasons like vandalism, not for preventing others from editing them due to some arbitrary criteria. Ironically, you would be considered one of the people who shouldn't directly edit the article. I suggest you abandon this account as your username violates the username policy and declare your paid relationship with St Monica's College on an account that adheres to said username policy; you may use {{paid}} to do so. Any changes you want to make should go through the edit request process. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:49, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

I should also point out that articles don't belong to anybody. Wikipedia is a collaborative project that relies on consensus when content disputes occur. You have also been asked not to post promotional material on here, which goes against Wikipedia policy. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:52, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, PromotionsandEvents. It might help if you understand that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. Incidentally, I think your user name falls foul of our user name policy in that it suggests that the account is shared by different people. Please change it. --ColinFine (talk) 12:53, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: User has been renamed to JordanfromSMC and has agreed to use the edit request system. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:45, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Olivia Rodrigo -- adding main image

Hello, I am looking at Olivia Rodrigo's page, and I think it's a good time to add a picture of her in her summary... I'm not sure how to do that... I found this one (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTYxODRmNzItMGFkNS00Mzk4LTk0NTMtYjdiYjgwYWNhODQ2XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNTg1MDY4NjQ@._V1_.jpg) so I'm wondering if I could be aided with this... thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kr!shna s!s! (talk • contribs)

I'm afraid you can't add that particular image. Wikipedia has much stricter standards regarding copyright than, for example, social media. Images must be released under a free license or you must have a valid fair use rationale. For images of living people it is assumed that as long as they are alive it is possible to get a free image at some point, so chances are slim that there is a rationale that would be accepted. Beeblebrox (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Kr!shna s!s!: By default, the answer is no, as images are presumed to have a copyright on them, which Wikipedia can't use (unless the image manages to meet all of the fair use criteria). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Someone has uploaded an improperly licensed image of Olivia Rodrigo to Wikimedia Commons, where it is tagged for deletion. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

There's also now a copyvio image on en.wiki, which I've also nominated for deletion. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Table help

I just made a fix to Gregson Maluma the close a table, which got the article references to be outside the table as they should be. But the header of the table itself is still messed-up. MB 03:41, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@MB: I fixed it, after finding another article with a similar table. The formatting seems needlessly complex... -- John of Reading (talk) 07:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Reliable Source??

Good Day and Hello, I find myself at a conundrum, and hence I once again turn to 'here' for guidance. Whilst browsing WP:CBM I happened upon this page St._Xavier's_High_School,_Fort#Notable_alumni which had this TAG:Template:Alumni. My question is: Is the School's Official Website a 'RELIABLE SOURCE' for whether the person mentioned was an Alumni or not?? And If it is, after citing the School Website as source, can I substitute the Template:Alumni with Template:Alumni editnotice ??
Thank you, Brgds, STC1 (talk) 04:39, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Writing an article

How do I write and post a article on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:4000:12CC:C116:6927:97C7:D3B4:5DA5 (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Creating an article is one of the hardest tasks on wikipedia. You should gain experience editing regular articles before you create any new ones. That being said, info can be found at WP:YFA. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:46, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

The very first step is to make sure the subject of your article is notable by our definition (WP:N). If the subject is not notable, your article will be deleted and your effort will be wasted. -Arch dude (talk) 15:51, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

How do I change "intermediate revisions not shown" when looking at diffs?

When I click "cur" on a page's history, it used to show me all of the changes between that version of the article and the current one. Now, however, if the same user has been making multiple edits to the page, I get to see only the changes from that one edit and a little message in the middle of the screen that reads "(4 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown)" or equivalent. This must be a setting somewhere, but I can't seem to find how to change it. I now have to look at every diff one by one, which is very inconvenient. How do I change this setting? Thanks for your help. Ganesha811 (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ganesha811: There is no setting for this. I must tell you that the message is a bit misleading. Whenever you ask the software to render a diff between twoo revisions, the software simply renders a difference between the two revisions without looking at the intermediate edits. Means, You will see all changes made by the individual edits merged into a single diff. To bettr explain that, lets assume that this is the History of Some Example article:

1. revision #123, By Example User
2. revision #234, By Example User
3. revision #345, By Example User

When you would ask the software to render the diff between revisions 123 and 345, you will see all the changes, including those that were actually made in revision #234. The notice is simply there so you know somebody changed something in between. Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:20, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Victor Schmidt, thanks for the explanation, that's very helpful! Ganesha811 (talk) 17:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

OBSCENE PHOTO added, needs to be removed right away

Hello. The entry for Gertrude Käsebier has replaced her photo with an obscene one. Please fix it right away. thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:8420:BB0F:A91A:C742:E57D:2539 (talk) 17:38, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

 Already done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Doubt

How do I post my personal article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shevon j18 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

• Note: Similar question raised at the OP's talk. I have responded there and left welcome links etc. Eagleash (talk) 18:25, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Question about sockpuppetry

Hello, I have a particularly dumb question (Especially for someone with 119 edits in the mainspace). If I make an alternative account, just to keep it in case i forget the password to this one, will that count as sockpuppetry? Necctaylor (chat) 20:10, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Generally not, but you'd better to declare that the second account is also your's. Ruslik_Zero 20:30, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Why not just wait? If you do forget your password, then you can set up a new account. There's no time limit for opening accounts. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Racial demographics of the Arbitration Committee

The article on the Lincoln Project has little to no information about Rick Wilson's history of racism. Moreover, the edits mentioning these facts have been consistently ignored. I would like to know if ALL members of the Arbitration Committee identify as white, and why the Arbitration Committee persistently defends a racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archon0112 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@Archon0112: The Arbitration Committee is tasked with resolving editor conduct disputes, and the committee members are not responsible for the Rick Wilson article nor the Lincoln Project article. You'll need to provide high-quality, reliable sources to back up any information that you want to add, and if your edits are reverted, you should open a discussion on the article's talk page to gain a consensus for the change — see WP:BRD for more information. Also, The Lincoln Project is about the organization and not focused primarily on Wilson, and we need to consider due and undue weight of information in articles. DanCherek (talk) 20:55, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Care to mulligan on your chosen topic? —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:05, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

What are you getting at with this response? It reads like you're implying that this user might be subject to sanctions for asking about this, which is certainly false and inappropriate. -Elmer Clark (talk) 05:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm guessing this is in reference to some article like this one. It's true that that article was semiprotected, but that process has nothing to do with the Arbitration Committee - any user can request that an article be semiprotected, and once consensus is built, any of our 1000+ administrators can pull the trigger. If you believe that the Confederate flag cooler Tweet incident mentioned at Rick Wilson (political consultant) is significant enough to the overall story of the Lincoln Project that it should be mentioned on its page as well, feel free to start a discussion at Talk:The Lincoln Project - it doesn't seem that anyone has ever even brought up the subject on that talk page, and that should always be your first recourse if you think an edit has been unjustly reverted or an article's coverage is slanted. -Elmer Clark (talk) 05:17, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

May 19

Question regarding retroactively adding edit summaries.

Hi there, I recently added {{Clear}} to Family Guy (season 17) where I accidentally clicked "Publish changes" before writing an edit summary. Help:Edit summary says that the times where I don't put edit summaries are tracked, and even though this probably won't affect me since I'm definitely not becoming an admin any time soon, I'd prefer having a clean record (even though it doesn't/hasn't show(ed) up on [1]), so I was wondering if there was a way to add one retroactively by, for example, reverting the edit and then doing it again with an edit summary or something. Thanks in advance! davidxu160801 (talk) 01:20, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Davidxu160801: No, there's no way to retroactively add an edit summary. Don't worry about it though, no one will mind as long as you continue to regularly use edit summaries. If you make a substantial change to a page and forget to include one, you can follow up with a dummy edit to explain your change. DanCherek (talk) 01:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Davidxu160801: In your preferences you might like to tick the option "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary". -- John of Reading (talk) 06:48, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

A Very Large Blanking, which shouldn't have been −12,228‎ KB

Good Day, I came across this Large Blanking and I believe the deleted sections though unnecessarily large, don't deserve to be deleted, rather truncated. and cited. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Story_of_an_Hour&action=history, thank you. STC1 (talk) 02:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Agreed - I have reverted the blanking and instead added Template:Overly detailed. -Elmer Clark (talk) 05:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Elmer Clark: thank you. STC1 (talk) 07:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

STC1 you could have reverted this yourself see Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. The IP editor has drawn attention to an issue with the article, so you could also remove some of the excess detail. TSventon (talk) 11:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@TSventon: I wasn't sure, hence the Help Desk. STC1 (talk) 12:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@SierraTangoCharlie1: I understood you wanted advice so I wanted to give you some more background if you see something similar in future. TSventon (talk) 13:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@TSventon: Yes, I now Know. Thank you. :) STC1 (talk) 13:23, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Sources

Let's say if a company says on their own web page "We were founded in 1920", are we allowed to cite that? Or is that source a COI? Thank you! --Abillionradios (talk) 02:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Abillionradios. For the sake of discussion, let's assume that the company is notable and has a good reputation, based on significant coverage in reliable sources, and those sources go back decades. Then, the company itself is is an acceptable source for its founding date. On the other hand, let's assume that the company is described in reliable sources as a "start-up" and has a reputation for not telling the truth to customers and investors. In that case, an independent, reliable source would be required. It is a matter of editorial judgment. Good judgment. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:44, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Adamant Editor won't allow Edits.

Good Day, I would like to bring to your attention this Wikipage: I.C. Colony. The Page has ZERO citation / references, The entire write up reeks of WP:PROMO / WP:SOAP. The Editors refuse to allow any changes to the page(all edits are reverted), even Templates like Template:Citation Needed & Template:POV statement are deleted. This is not what wikipedia is about. The Article is tagged TEMPLATE:Unreferenced which means any uncited claim can and should be challenged / removed. But, sadly that's not what is being allowed to happen. STC1 (talk) 06:47, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I have a feeling that user (Shaquille.oatmeal3333 (talk · contribs)) might need to be blocked for his intransigence here, considering his initial reaction to criticism was to blank it. This should be escalated to WP:ANI, I think. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 12:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Jéské Couriano: I was surprised too, at the blatant lack of any procedure followed. I shall do the needful and escalate this. Appreciate the guidance. STC1 (talk) 13:02, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@SierraTangoCharlie1, Jéské Couriano, and Shaquille.oatmeal3333: I think we should at least try to get a response from the editor in question first - it doesn't look like there has been any attempt at communication beyond edit summaries. He should have been pinged by now, so I would wait for further action before going to ANI (but I won't prevent you from doing so). LittlePuppers (talk) 13:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

See the diff I linked above, LittlePuppers. A user brought up the article's issues and called him by name, and he reverted it off. That's not a good-faith misunderstanding. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 13:32, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Jéské Couriano, Shaquille.oatmeal3333, and LittlePuppers: I'm all for a discussion. I had left messages on the I.C. Colony Chat Page. From my watchlist, I can see that Shaquille.oatmeal3333 tried to delete the contents of the chat page and was reverted by other editors. The person doesn't seem to want to engage in communication, but only engages reverting other Edits. If the statements made on the page are backed up by WP:Reliable references, who am I to object?STC1 (talk) 13:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

SierraTangoCharlie1, somehow I missed the talk page blank when I looked through the user's edits. Consider my concerns resolved. LittlePuppers (talk) 13:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

how we can change this draft page on pubblic page ?

Please help us, thanks Draft:Iaia De Rose— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpsrl (talk • contribs) 19 May 2021 09:11 (UTC)

@Gpsrl: If you consider that the draft is ready for consideration as an article, you can click the blue 'submit' button in the grey draft notice. However, please clarify what you mean by 'we' and 'us'. Accounts do not allow use by more than one person (or any corporate or promotional use). (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Swansea City AFC Logo

Hello there,

I am Jordan, Graphic Designer of Swansea City AFC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_City_A.F.C.

I'm writing in request to change the logo of the club on the official Wiki page as it is now 10 years out of date. I've attached a link to the PNG of the new updated logo to add instead when possible, please: https://swanseacity.sharefile.com/d-s672dfeb0eed14b8583f1c55ee69aa38b

Thank you.

Kind Regards, Jordan Morcom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordanmorcomswanseacity (talk • contribs) 09:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Jordanmorcomswanseacity! I put a comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#New_logo,_anyone?, hopefully someone will bite. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Jordanmorcomswanseacity and Gråbergs Gråa Sång:  Done. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 13:09, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

How best to add/edit for Wikipedia an article already drafted with the help of a former Swedish civil engineer and typed in MS Word?

I added an article about my father 'Raymond Ray-Jones' to Wikipedia some years ago and now want to add another 'SfB: the first special classification for the building industry' which is already typed using MS Word. I am the author.Alan (talk) 14:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)--Alan (talk) 14:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Of course it will need to be modified in accordance with Wikipedia conventions and I'm sure it is not perfect, but having read a lot of Wikipedia 'How-to' pages, I am still not sure how best to go ahead. Can I upload it to editorial main-space and then work on it, or get permission to edit and use an editing wizard, or should I upload it for far more experienced editors to have a look at it first?

Thank you for your help with this query. Alan Ray-Jones, former Architect & RIBA member, UK Alan (talk) 14:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)