Talk:Joe Biden

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01. In the lead section, mention that Biden is the oldest president. (RfC February 2021)

02. There is no consensus on including a subsection about gaffes. (RfC March 2021)

03. The infobox is shortened. (RfC February 2021)

04. The lead image is the official 2021 White House portrait. (January 2021, April 2021)

05. The lead image's caption is Official portrait, 2021. (April 2021)

06. In the lead sentence, use who is as opposed to serving as when referring to Biden as the president. (RfC July 2021)

07. In the lead sentence, use 46th and current as opposed to just 46th when referring to Biden as the president. (RfC July 2021)

08. In the lead section, do not mention Biden's building of a port to facilitate American aid to Palestinians. (RfC June 2024)

BIF in 4th lead paragraph

4th lead paragraph (which covers Biden's presidency) should mention passage of the BIF, his second major legislative achievement (after the American Rescue Plan). 142.126.87.150 (talk) 19:46, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

I agree, it is one of the major legislative acts of his presidency thus far. I think a good way to integrate this with the paragraph may be to mention the ARP and BIF together as part of Biden's Build Back Better Plan (link to article). This way when/if the Build Back Better Act passes it can be included as well. Basil the Bat Lord (talk) 00:33, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

It’s fine for now. When/if the BBB passes, we can rephrase the opening to how his first presidential year centered around passing his build back better agenda/domestic agenda, which included the ARP, BIF and BBB acts. Then segway into how he also issued a series of EOs and keep the rest as is. Davefelmer (talk) 23:01, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Not sure why we can't just update it now to mention BIF, and again if/when BBB is signed into law? It may well be weeks or months before BBB clears the Senate, and there's no reason not to mentioned BIF until then... 142.126.87.150 (talk) 08:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Sorry IP, but the current version has a strong consensus. Chopping and changing it to include everything he does in the lead does not. Davefelmer (talk) 17:42, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Has it passed the US Senate? GoodDay (talk) 09:00, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Biden proposed the Build Back Better Plan, from which Congress passed the $1 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which Biden signed into law in November 2021. - added. starship.paint (exalt) 02:23, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Consistency in presidential descriptions?

Not sure if this is the right place for this, kinda new as a Wikipedia contributor. I was thinking it would be a good idea to get some consistency in the descriptions/intros for politicians and how their offices are described

For example here is how Biden and Obama's tenure in the Senate are described.

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. (born November 20, 1942) is an American politician who is the 46th and current president of the United States. A member of the Democratic Party, he served as the 47th vice president from 2009 to 2017 under Barack Obama and represented Delaware in the United States Senate from 1973 to 2009.

Barack Hussein Obama II (born August 4, 1961) is an American politician, author, and retired attorney who served as the 44th president of the United States from 2009 to 2017. A member of the Democratic Party, Obama was the first African-American president of the United States. He previously served as a U.S. senator from Illinois from 2005 to 2008 and as an Illinois state senator from 1997 to 2004.

And here is how Kennedy's is described

John Fitzgerald Kennedy (May 29, 1917 – November 22, 1963), often referred to by his initials JFK, was an American politician who served as the 35th president of the United States from 1961 until his assassination near the end of his third year in office. Kennedy served at the height of the Cold War, and the majority of his work as president concerned relations with the Soviet Union and Cuba. A Democrat, Kennedy represented Massachusetts in both houses of the U.S. Congress prior to his presidency.

Anyone else agree there should be some consistency? Please feel free to move this to the appropriate discussion area as well CoryJosh (talk) 23:52, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't see why. Anyway, one was a U.S. senator, one was a U.S. and state senator, one was a U.S. senator and congressman,. JFK and obama were both serving senators when they became president, while biden was a former VP which is a higher position. There have not been many senators or former senators who became president anyway. TFD (talk) 02:49, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 November 2021

The full stops of U.S. should be removed as per as MOS:US. Richard Michael William (talk) 08:20, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: this page uses U.S., either is fine according to MOS:US as long as consistency is kept.  melecie  t - 08:23, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Controversy

WP:DENY SPECIFICO talk 23:16, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Biden called a woman "damn liar", a "lying dog-faced pony soldier" and "full of s---" back in 2020. [1] [2] --Kotys ek Beos (talk) 18:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC) This article is not for documenting every controversial comment that President Biden makes. 331dot (talk) 18:25, 30 November 2021 (UTC) This isn't the Donald Trump article. GoodDay (talk) 18:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Nor would something like this go on Donald Trump's article, unless it resulted in some actual consequences that we need to note. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2021 (UTC) You got it on spot, if this was Donald Trump, the rhetoric would be different.--Kotys ek Beos (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2021 (UTC) And?Slatersteven (talk) 18:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC) See WP:CONTROVERSYSECTION. Adding controversy for the sake of adding controversy violates WP:NPOV. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC) This is the start only. Of course we are not gonna create a Controversy section and leave it empty. The second thing is: Biden's incoherent and mumbling speeches that have been delivered recently [3] [4]. --Kotys ek Beos (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Hunter Biden Ukraine corruption scandal [5]. Joe Biden's career is full of controversy and yet not a controversy section on his Wikipedia article. --Kotys ek Beos (talk) 18:38, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Kotys ek Beos (ec) You are close to being blocked as WP:NOTHERE. Biden is well known to have a speech impediment, which is not controversial except when used as a cudgel by political opponents. This article is not about Hunter Biden, and Hunter Biden is not president. 331dot (talk) 18:39, 30 November 2021 (UTC) If you would have read the source, you would know that Joe Biden had a big role in the Ukraine scandal, allegedly abusing his vice president powers in order to facilitate his son's businesses in Ukraine. But it's useless to insist now after I read this talk page archive and users are bringing the discussion over same problems over and over again and the discussion is quickly archived. If there is a non leftist unbiased administrator here, then let me know. Until then I don't believe the discussions here are honest. Best regards! --Kotys ek Beos (talk) 23:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC) Kotys ek Beos, I've read that source, and I can tell you that it is garbage. For instance, it says that Joe Biden has acknowledged on camera that in spring 2016, when he was vice president and spearheading the Obama administration's Ukraine policy, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire top prosecutor Viktor Shokin. Yet it completely fails to mention that Viktor Shokin, was ousted for the opposite reason Trump and his allies claim ... It wasn't because Shokin was investigating a natural gas company tied to Biden's son; it was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians, according to a Ukrainian official and four former American officials who specialized in Ukraine and Europe. (source). Then it goes on to include the baseless claims such as Critics alleged Hunter Biden might have been selling access to his father, who had pushed Ukraine to increase its natural gas production. without providing anything resembling evidence of Hunter selling access. It is not worth my time to go through this Fox News piece any further. The bias on Hunter Biden comes from the right, not "leftists". – Muboshgu (talk) 23:09, 1 December 2021 (UTC) See the talk page archive, this has been discussed many times, and the same arguments apply.Slatersteven (talk) 18:41, 30 November 2021 (UTC) There is a whole article about Tara Reade's debunked allegation against him, Joe Biden sexual assault allegation. 331dot (talk) 18:42, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Indeed, it certainly killed the Me Too movement. -- GoodDay (talk) 18:47, 30 November 2021 (UTC) What has this to do with anything?Slatersteven (talk) 18:54, 30 November 2021 (UTC) GoodDay, it's not "believe all women", it's "believe women". See Category:False allegations of sex crimes – Muboshgu (talk) 20:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC) Fox News? Really? Kleinpecan (talk) 18:43, 30 November 2021 (UTC) I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to directly quote these statements, but it might could have a brief mention in the reputation section. Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 06:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC) I agree with not quoting the exact words since I don't agree with using curse words on Wikipedia, not even when quoting, but I've seen curses being used in articles here. I don't get why users are against controversy section. I suspect they think that controversy section would stain Joe Biden's image, but that's not how things works. Being a politician means automatically being controversial, since not everybody can agree with you when you say lots of things and opinions. The definition of "controversial" is giving rise or likely to give rise to controversy or public disagreement (Oxford dictionary) and "controversy" means prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion (idem). I know Ukraine scandal has been discussed, I don't intend to go through same discussions. All I want to say is that the discussions were about how true the allegations were, but I ain't claiming they were true. All i wanted to do was to prove the existence of the allegations and the fact that they are controversial (who doesn't know about them?). Here at Wikipedia we don't act as prosecutors or judges, but our mission is to inform correctly and precisely. My proposal was (if I didn't made myself clear) to include in controversy section these allegations and to clearly affirm they are allegations.--Kotys ek Beos (talk) 22:21, 2 December 2021 (UTC) Have you reviewed WP:CONTROVERSYSECTION as suggested? 331dot (talk) 22:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC) You might want to review WP:FALSEBALANCE too. Just because there are criticisms does not mean that we should give them weight. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:57, 2 December 2021 (UTC) Allegations unpublished by RS ought to not be here, no? Also, it does seem like OP wants to push an obvious narrative counterproductive to the idea of Wikipedia. (talk) 03:49, 6 December 2021 (UTC) This whole article reads as if it has been sanitized by President Biden's people to remove any reference to his numerous gaffes, his racist and otherwise controversial statements, and the scandal involving Hunter Biden. All of these things merit inclusion in the article, as they are part of what defines who Biden is. To leave them out means the article does not represent a neutral point of view, but rather a very biased point of view. And if no controversy is to be included, the same standard should be used for the article about former President Trump. BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 19:34, 7 December 2021 (UTC) Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden (so no it does hot define who HE is). And this article follows the pattern of every other presidential article. By the way, we do include controversies, which would you like to add we do not have already?Slatersteven (talk) 19:41, 7 December 2021 (UTC) BarbecuePorkRinds (ec) This article is not about Hunter Biden, the Hunter Biden article is about Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden is not President of the United States. Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory is its own article. That there is not a "controversy" section (which is according to policy, as described above) does not mean that negative information is prohibited. If you have independent reliable sources with information missing from this article or related articles, please offer it. If you believe some aspect of the article about twice impeached, under investigation for countless crimes, former President Trump violates policy, please bring it up there. Consider that you probably aren't the first to think as you do.. I set aside my personal biases here every day, please do the same. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 19:50, 7 December 2021 (UTC) BarbecuePorkRinds I agree with you 100%, sir. And although they might say "Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden" therefore there would be no connection between the scandal and Joe Biden, let's not forget why Biden is involved in this scandal is because of alleged abuse of power as a vice president at the time. The controversy about Biden should be analyzed from this POV of the allegations that Biden abused his powers as vice president to help his son, Hunter Biden, in what he did in Ukraine. How is it not about Joe Biden when it's about something that is alleged Biden did? --Kotys ek Beos (talk) 17:33, 10 December 2021 (UTC) Hunter Biden is the son of the President, so when he is involved in a scandal with Ukraine and the Russians, that does reflect on Joe Biden. The not withstanding, over the course of his political career Joe Biden has made a number of racist, sexist, insensitive, and just plain foolish statements. These are all a part of who he is, yet none are mentioned here. One famous example was in 2020 during the election when he was being interviewed by an African American radio host, and he stated “You got more questions? Well I’m telling you, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.” That certainly should merit inclusion in this article. Or his statement that "poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids". Or when he said that Barack Obama was "the first sort of mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean”. Or when he called a woman at the Iowa caucus "a lying dog-faced pony soldier.” Or his statement that “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent." I could go on, but these statements and more, which demonstrate Biden's character, should be included in this article. BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 15:08, 8 December 2021 (UTC) We do mention he is gaff prone.Slatersteven (talk) 15:12, 8 December 2021 (UTC) True. But these statements go well beyond "gaffes" or slips of the tongue. These are racist and other statements that go to Biden's character. Not only does the article cite no examples of Biden's numerous controversial statements, but goes further by glossing over the statements as mere "gaffes". BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 16:16, 8 December 2021 (UTC) Do they, according to who?Slatersteven (talk) 16:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC) Biden is well known to have a stutter; he is concentrating on getting his words out, and not necessarily on what the words are. They are indeed slips of the tongue, but it doesn't matter what I think. As I've said, please offer independent reliable sources that discuss controversial statements made(and that do not just document them) and how they impugn Biden's character that is not just your opinion. Hunter Biden is not president and his father is not responsible for his actions. Any suggestions for changes to that article can be discussed there. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC) (BPR) Do we anything about Trump's children's scandals in his bio article, or Obama's daughters in his, or Bush's daughters in his, etc etc? GoodDay (talk) 19:07, 8 December 2021 (UTC) I can believe President Biden had a stutter, and he concentrates on getting his words out. That does not make his racist or other controversial statement mere "slips of the tongue". He clearly believes these statements, as he is concentrating and intent on getting them out despite his stutter. And of course statements like this impugn the character of anyone who makes them - that is not an opinion, that is simply a fact. BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 22:01, 8 December 2021 (UTC) What you personally believe has no real relevance to this conversation. Additionally, there is no such thing as "fact" when coming up with what impinges someone's character as the general opinion on someone's character is just that, an opinion. For some people, something might impinge that character, and that very same thing may hold no import to someone else. The only thing relevant to this conversation and to this article is what is found in reliable sources, which you have been asked to provide. Your personal opinion, or what you personally deem to be "facts," will not result in one letter being changed in this article. Find and present reliable sources, or there really isn't anything to discuss. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 22:07, 8 December 2021 (UTC) I don't think you're going to get a consensus for what you want added to this article. Open up an RFC if you like, but I'm guessing the result will be a big no. GoodDay (talk) 22:14, 8 December 2021 (UTC) What does consensus have do do with it? The majority of editors on Wikipedia are liberal, so there is no way there could be consensus about anything detrimental in an article about a Democrat. But if the suggested edits are documented in a reliable source, and are something important like repeated racist statements, they should be allowed into the article whether the majority of editors are fans of Biden or not. BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 22:22, 8 December 2021 (UTC) Best to be practical about this. You're not going to get what you want added to this article, without a consensus from the other editors. Your only other avenue (if you don't go the RFC route) would be WP:ANI, where you'd have to claim (and prove it) that your attempts to bring NPoV to this article, is being wrongfully stopped. FWIW - I'm neutral about whether or not your proposed changes should be added to this article. GoodDay (talk) 23:21, 8 December 2021 (UTC) NOw other stuff will get invoked. Many of us have made similar arguments on Trump's page about the same things. It did not matter how many RS said he was mentally unstable, we have policies like wp:blp which means we cannot have tittle-tattle or hearsay in his article. That is without the fact you are still yet to show that any of your requested suggestions represent major controversies.Slatersteven (talk) 10:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC) This has nothing to do with whether I am a fan of Biden or not. There are most likely plenty of websites that exist to document every time Biden litters or jaywalks or says something that is not PC and say it's evidence that he is a terrible person. This isn't one of them. If you just want to tell the world how terrible you think Biden is,(as there is no objective authority to make that determination) you should go to one of those websites or do it from your social media accounts. This website operates by consensus preferably based in Wikipedia guidelines. That means you have to work with people who may have differing views from yourself to reach an agreement as to what the article should say. Several policies have been described to you that purport to support the way the article is currently. If those policies are not being followed, please tell how. If other articles are not following those policies, please bring that up on the talk pages of those articles. 331dot (talk) 11:02, 9 December 2021 (UTC) I have no problem with bad information about Biden being in this article, if it's done according to policy(we don't do controversy sections but that doesn't preclude negative information). 331dot (talk) 11:05, 9 December 2021 (UTC) His statements do not have to be in a special "Controversy" section. They should be included in the "Reputation" section which states that he makes "gaffes" (while I disagree that these statements are mere "gaffes", I can give on that point). All of the statements I mentioned above are well documented on cites considered reliable sources by Wikipedia. BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 13:11, 9 December 2021 (UTC) We need more than the mere documentation of these statements; we need significant coverage of them that is not just some conservative talking head giving conservative talking points or their personal opinion. Please offer any such sources that you have, and please consider that you probably aren't the first person to attempt such an enterprise. 331dot (talk) 13:18, 9 December 2021 (UTC) I don't have a personal opinion on whether we should cover his offensive or potentially offensive remarks. But BarbecuePorkRinds, if you are going to search for sources, also consult Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. Dimadick (talk) 13:46, 9 December 2021 (UTC) I don't need to search hard for sources - it was widely reported. And Fox News definitely covered the statements extensively. And I can hear the protests and groaning now, but Fox News is a Wikipedia reliable source. But other news sources reported the statements as well. It's not like the statements are secret or anything.BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:28, 9 December 2021 (UTC) I should also note that the Wikipedia article on Donald Trump has an entire section dedicated to his supposed racist statements, and he didn't say anything as blatant as many of the statements made by President Biden. Wikipedia should not have a double standard with one set of criteria for conservative politicians and another for liberal politicians. BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 14:35, 9 December 2021 (UTC) The reporting of Trump goes back years, it was not only after he became president, and also it's more than just Fox (for which there is no consensus over its status as an RS for politics). Moreover, we need analysis by experts (as we do with Trump) and not just media reporting that he =used (or is using) racist language to drum up support.Slatersteven (talk) 14:38, 9 December 2021 (UTC) I'm still seeing no consensus here, for what you want to add to the article. This discussion is becoming a time sink. You've two choices, begin an RFC or open up an WP:ANI report. GoodDay (talk) 15:12, 9 December 2021 (UTC) So including all kinds of statements in the Trump article that could be interpreted as racist or sexist is fine, and characterizing Trump as a racist is fine, but no mention of ANY blatantly racist or sexist statement whatsover by Biden can be mentioned in his article. Got it. Several people warned me that if I wanted to edit Wikipedia political articles that I would be beating my head against the wall because Wikipedia editors and administrators are overwhelmingly liberal and refuse to allow even the least bit of criticism of any liberal politician to appear in an article, no matter how well documented. I was also told that if I persisted I would simply be blocked, while blatantly biased liberal editors can operate with complete freedom and impunity. I honestly didn't believe that it could be this bad, but now I know. BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 16:43, 9 December 2021 (UTC) As you have been told either launch an RFC or take us to ANI. And we do allow criticism here "Some of his gaffes have been characterized as racially insensitive", which is what RS say. Do you have any RS that outright say he is a racist?Slatersteven (talk) 16:47, 9 December 2021 (UTC) BarbecuePorkRinds If you just want to read what you want to hear, you might try Conservapedia. I'm sorry you can't set aside your political biases while you are here, I do my best to. If you have reliable sources that characterize Biden as a racist based on what experts say(again, not just documenting what he says or the opinions of conservative talking heads), please offer them, but you don't seem interested in collaboration. Good day. 331dot (talk) 16:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC) Trump has a long-documented history of racism, starting with his housing projects in the 70s. 331dot (talk) 16:52, 9 December 2021 (UTC) Biden similarly has a long-documented history of racist and sexist statements. I have already pointed out several. This isn't a secret - the statements are well-documented. Are you trying to argue 1) that Biden did not make the statements or 2) that they somehow weren't racist? BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 22:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC) Or I suppose there is a third possibility - That Biden did make the statements as documented, that they were racist or sexist, but the editors here cannot put aside their biases and agree to allow any examples of Biden's racist statements to be included in the article. Is that the case? BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 22:19, 13 December 2021 (UTC) BarbecuePorkRinds, where has a single RS referred to the statements as "racist" or "sexist"? He's said what he's said, but it's not up to any of us to interpret it. That's WP:SYNTHESIS. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:21, 13 December 2021 (UTC) Open an RFC or discontinue the discussion, which is bordering on WP:FORUM. -- GoodDay (talk) 22:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC) BarbecuePorkRinds, you aren't listening to us. We've told you what we are looking for and we are still waiting for you to offer it. Pot, meet kettle. 331dot (talk) 22:28, 13 December 2021 (UTC) IMHO, if an RFC isn't opened up on this topic? Then the entire 2-week old discussion should be hatted. GoodDay (talk) 22:42, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

What is an RFC, and how is it opened? BarbecuePorkRinds (talk) 22:01, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

RFC is jargon for Request for Comment; click that link for more information, especially if you don't intend to offer sources as requested. 331dot (talk) 22:03, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Omicron surge

It's worth it to mention Biden's response to the current Omicron surge. He argued that the federal government cannot intervene in Omicron. Instead, he argued intervention happens at a state level. This is despite cases rising in all states, causing outrage. 2600:1700:FC10:48C0:4858:9F69:7869:1B3 (talk) 18:36, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

"In response to the surge of the COVID-19 Omicron variant in December, Biden advocated a state-level response over a federal response. Soon after, the CDC revised their guidelines recommending quarantine for five days rather than ten. By the end of December, the United States reported an all-time high of new COVID cases."

His comment was misconstrued as federal abandonment of states. soibangla (talk) 19:26, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

There's a bit of WP:SYNTHESIS going on here by ordering these statements in a way that one seems to lead to the other, implying one is the result of the other. The updated CDC guideline, for example, didn't start the Omicron surge being experienced at the end of December as the CDC guidance shortening the quarantine period was itself also done at the end of December, after we were already well into the Omicron surge. Additionally, that surge is being seen all over the world, and not just in countries where the US CDC has authority (i.e. the US). This isn't to say that reliably sourced criticism of Biden's response cannot be included, but it must be done in such a way as to not imply the type of cause/effect relationship that the proposed text suggests. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 20:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I agree the description is misleading. But the CNBC article said Biden "campaigned on the federal government’s ability to curb the pandemic." He is now backtracking. TFD (talk) 20:49, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Biden is not backtracking. That CNBC article then says Those comments represent one of the most explicit acknowledgements to date from the Biden administration that it will need help from state and local governments in its efforts to curb the spread of Covid-19. as well as The president on Monday reiterated some of the promises he made last week, including the federal government’s purchase of 500 million rapid coronavirus tests. It's not "backtracking", it's acknowledging that states have a role to play too. After all, he's just announced a new $137 million contract from the DoD. I agree with OuroborosCobra that the proposed addition is too much SYNTH. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

How about: "The Biden administration responded to the global spread of the COVID-19 Omicron variant in December 2021 by advocating for a state-level response over a federal level response. Throughout the surge, the Biden administration has been criticized for a lack of COVID tests, exacerbating the spread of the Omicron variant. When questioned about the apparent shortage of tests, Jen Psaki replied, “Should we just send one to every American? Then what happens if every American has one test? How much does that cost and what happens after that?”, causing backlash. The Biden administration responded by promising an increased supply of at-home tests later in 2022.

In the midst of an all-time high of new COVID cases, the CDC revised their guidelines, recommending five days of quarantine rather than ten without requiring a negative COVID test. This move was criticized by health experts who worry that without rapid testing, COVID-positive people may unknowingly spread COVID in workplaces under the recommended CDC guidelines. Others criticize the CDC for implementing this change following lobbying by the airline industry, leading to social media backlash against the federal government." –2600:1700:FC10:48C0:4858:9F69:7869:1B3 (talk) 21:47, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

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