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May 19

Request for Undeletion of Biographies: Professor Matjaž Klemenčič and Professor Mitja Žagar

Dear Users,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly request the undeletion of two biographies that I recently added to Wikipedia. The biographies in question are about distinguished Slovene researchers, Professor Matjaž Klemenčič and Professor Mitja Žagar. Unfortunately, the content was deleted, and I would like to address any concerns and have it restored. I want to assure you that I adhered to all Wikipedia rules and regulations while creating these biographies. I made every effort to ensure that the content complied with the community's content policies, such as providing reliable sources, maintaining a neutral point of view, and avoiding any promotional or biased language.

Both Professor Matjaž Klemenčič and Professor Mitja Žagar have made significant contributions to their respective fields, and their achievements are widely recognized. Including their biographies on Wikipedia would provide valuable information to readers interested in their work and accomplishments.

I kindly request that you reconsider the deletion and restore the biographies. If there are any specific concerns or issues with the content, I am more than willing to address them promptly. I am committed to ensuring that the biographies meet the high standards set by Wikipedia. Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to your favorable response. If you require any additional information or clarification, please let me know. I genuinely believe that these biographies deserve a place on Wikipedia, and I appreciate your consideration. Doncsecz^talk 05:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@Doncsecz~enwiki Hi there!

Others will be able to help you better than I can, but I wanted to point out that those articles weren't "deleted"; they were just moved to the draftspace. Now, if they go six months without any revisions being done to them, then yes they would get outright deleted (at that point you would ask for their undeletion). From a glance, Klemencic has only 2 external links, and Zagar only 3. So you need more sources than that (along with footnotes/inline citations). I hope this answers at least some of your concerns.

(By the way, I recommend checking those articles out on other Wikipedia sites if they have them, as they could have more sources there. I know this because the Russian Wikipedia can have a lot more sources for certain articles than the English one, for example). Losipov (talk) 06:04, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Both of these lacked reliable secondary sourcing. I can't comment on how notable these people are, but the article always needs sourcing. It cannot be written like a LinkedIn profile.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:12, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@Doncsecz~enwiki: Here on the English Wikipedia, the move to draft space is a good sign. It means the initial reviewing editor did not choose to delete the article or nominate it for deletion, because the editor felt that there is hope that the article can be improved. The absolutely critical issue for you is to add references that demonstrate that these subjects meet our notability requirements: see WP:NACADEMIC. -Arch dude (talk) 19:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@Arch dude: Yes. Those articles about the reality celebs and porn actors are more important. Doncsecz^talk 11:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

@Doncsecz~enwiki: ... and some of the athletes and coaches at a major university are more notable than the tenured professors, which is IMO even worse than the celebs including porn stars. But "importance" is subjective, so we use "notability" instead, and we try hard to use an objective measure of notability: the subject must have attracted sufficient notice in the general press. This is the policy the English Wikipedia has been using for two decades. You will not change this policy by commenting here on the help desk. -Arch dude (talk) 14:41, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

How to work with tables

Hi guys, so I am really confused. After uploading a lot of images to put then Jordan dinar the table broke when I put them in. Could someone check my Sandbox (too broken to add to main page yet) and help me? I need to add a cell between 5 and 10 piasters and the images arent working right. Ty Chacabangaso (talk) 11:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Note: A LOT of the images are named wrongly I have no clue what happened when I made them I am trying to figure out how to move them now I'm really sorry, Chacabangaso (talk) 11:31, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@Chacabangaso:. I converted the image to links because non-free content isn't allowed to be used in user sandboxes. Please don't add any more images to your user sandbox. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:53, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Hatnote for article that is available on another language wikipedia

I'm wondering what to do regarding a hatnote where the "you could have also meant" is not available on the English wikipedia but only on the German one. The concrete example is Peter Bogner. The English wikipedia is about a German-American businessman. However the German wikipedia talks about a different Peter Bogner who is an art historian. This could be confusing. How to best resolve this?

I could only find guidance that one should not hatnote link to a redlink. But in this case, it could make sense to link to the German language article instead. AncientWalrus (talk) 12:50, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@AncientWalrus: Use the {{Interlanguage link}} template. My only concern with that the articles have the same title, so the template may not work correctly to identify that the artist is a red link here and a blue link there. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 12:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Try {{ill|Peter Bogner (art historian)|de|Peter Bogner}} -> Peter Bogner (art historian) Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:06, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work? Or am I doing something wrong?

This page is about Peter Bogner (businessman). For other people with the same name, see [[:Peter Bogner (art historian) [de]]].

See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AncientWalrus/sandbox&oldid=1155735570 AncientWalrus (talk) 13:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Weird. I've added a line to your sandbox with it done as text and that works. Feel free to use, modify or delete as you wish. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 13:41, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, that worked. How did you create that literal version? AncientWalrus (talk) 14:44, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Technical issues aside, is this really a good idea? I'm inclined to say not - the set of people looking for the art historian who find the businessman and can speak German seems small. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

I've translated the German article to English wikipedia (Peter Bogner (art historian)) so this should be resolved now AncientWalrus (talk) 15:26, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Why?

Why do some (very few; or so I hope) Americans believe pizza is of American origin? Who can explain this unjustifiable and nefarious thought to me? 151.68.96.238 (talk) 22:07, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

This is a place to ask questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia. Meters (talk) 22:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

You're right, Meters. But I'll suggest a reason anyway: I think it may be because Americans did invent the abomination that is deep-dish pizza. Bishonen | tålk 22:21, 19 May 2023 (UTC).

Ayy, don't diss deep-dish pizzas agains, capisce? LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 22:42, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Too bad that we do not have "Reference desk: Italian-American food". Cullen328 (talk) 23:09, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Be the change you want to see in the world. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 23:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

151.68.96.238, Meters, Bishonen, LilianaUwU, Cullen328 Funny, I watched a program about that, just yesterday--the rivalry between Pizza Hut and Domino's that brought pizza to the general American culture. If Adam Richman had things right, it's because the pizza concocted first by two young guys in Kansas who knew nothing about pizza bore almost no resemblance to the traditional Italian dish--and that's what Americans came to know as pizza. And no, it apparently (again, assuming Richman had things right) WASN'T the "deep dish." It seems that in the northeast U.S. cities, where there were substantial populations of Italian immigrants who DID know Italian pizza, they couldn't make any headway until they designed a pizza with a thicker crust than they had been doing. Uporządnicki (talk) 19:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

AzseicsoK, I have not seen the documentary you mentioned but I believe that the assertion that Pizza Hut and Domino's brought pizza to the general American culture is incorrect. I was born in Detroit where Domino's began, and that chain had negligible influence when I moved to California in 1972. But there were hundreds of locally owned pizzerias all over the Detroit area. Same for the San Francisco Bay Area. When I arrived in 1972, I quickly discovered Tomasso's which had been in business since 1935. Every neighborhood had a few family owned pizzerias, even Chinatown. Pretty much every town of an significant size had at least one independent pizzeria, long before the big chains came to town. Cullen328 (talk) 19:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

It was an episode of The Food that Built America. And I have sort of wondered if that series tends to oversimplify, and to consider the drama as much as historical accuracy. It does seem that every modern food trend here is the result of bitter rivalry between two arch-competitors--without which, America would never have heard of that particular food. They did acknowledge pizzerias. Interesting, though, about the Domino's. 1972 was when I started college in Durham, NC, I'd never heard of Domino's but in Durham (and Chapel Hill), there was PTA--Pizza Transit Authority. Probably, most of their business was to college students. Of course, I'd had pizza before, but I don't recall if I'd seen delivery pizza before PTA. Of course, Durham and Chapel Hill both have Domino's now. Apparently, there's still a PTA Pizza & Hoagie in Wake Forest, NC. Uporządnicki (talk) 20:56, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Americans who truly appreciate excellent pizza tend to avoid mass production chains like these two. Cullen328 (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

change page name

hi how do ı change the name of the page ı just published Jojososyal (talk) 22:18, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

That advertisement was deleted, and your spamming account has been blocked. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

A friend just sent me an ad from a spam operation using our name on their website and in their URL

Okay, not technically our name, but "Wiki Encyclopedia".

What's the best board to notify folks? --Orange Mike | Talk 23:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Notify people of what, Orangemike? If it's "a spam operation using our name on their website and in their URL", then as you say the name is not "wikipedia", and both "wiki" and "encyclopedia" are English words. -- Hoary (talk) 00:51, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

They are advertising their spamming services, and offering various subscriptions to keep an article about their customer in Wikipedia in a way the customer likes. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

There are rather a lot of such companies. I'm pretty sure I have seen a list of them (in the "Wikipedia" namespace), but unfortunately its title eludes me. If somebody can think of the title, then you could add this outfit to it. -- Hoary (talk) 03:34, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

not exactly what you're describing, but WP:PAIDLIST lettherebedarklight晚安 04:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, WP:PAIDLIST is exactly what I was thinking of. -- Hoary (talk) 05:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Mentioning it at COIN and Jimbotalk can't hurt. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:47, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I assume "Jimbotalk" is a joke. For those who missed recent events, Jimmy Wales (main Wikipedia cofounder) publicly accused an admin of paid editing based on one company’s advertisement (when it has been well-known that such companies lie about having admin "on their side" to get clients); he ended up abandoning his tools over the fuss this created. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

No, it's not a joke, and in fact User talk:Jimbo Wales#Another bunch of paid spammers heard from is a good place to alert a very wide range of contributors, including people associated with the WMF. Jimbo's clumsy approach in that incident was regrettable but a lot more useful people watch his talk than many other places at Wikipedia. Johnuniq (talk) 10:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

May 20

Pet care?

Over at the Betta article, an external link was added to a care guide. Aside from it probably being spam, I thought I'd ask: is it appropriate to have care guides linked from a Wikipedia article (that isn't about pet care, but is about an animal commonly kept as a pet)? I would think no, but wanted, to use a cliche, consensus. IAmNitpicking (talk) 01:32, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Inappropriate: see WP:NOTHOWTO. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I've removed the external link from the article as well as a similar one from Rainbow shark. In addition to NOTHOWTO, there's also WP:NOBLOG, which pretty much says that random blogs from non-notable people should not be external links. SkyWarrior 02:20, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you (and @AndyTheGrump). IAmNitpicking (talk) 01:13, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

i didnt exsacly violate the community guidelines!

please give me back i didnt read the community guidelines KodBake (talk) 10:05, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

You are not currently WP:BLOCKED from editing and I can't see any article contributions either. More detail needed.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:13, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Maybe you violated them inexactly. Give what back to you? Or give you back to what? -- Hoary (talk) 10:15, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I presume you are talking about your experience at Slovenian Wikipedia. You need to ask there, not here. English Wikipedia is a separate project, and probably nobody reading this has any knowledge or influence at sl Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 15:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Aversion security

Hi would it be possible for me to become a part of Wikipedia community and have a sort of membership that would be used for aversion purpose. I believe that my younger version is actually detrimental to Wikipedia’s economic credit. Anidubey 91 (talk) 11:31, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

hi @Anidubey 91 and welcome to the Help Desk! you are already a member of Wikipedia! what do you mean by "aversion purpose" and "my younger version"? do you mean that in the past, you did things that you regret that you want to have a clean start from? 💜  melecie  talk - 11:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Looking at the thread above, I am now wondering whether these are spam or sock edits.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Logspeed CZ Arena

Good morning, could someone correct the title of the "Logspeed CZ Arena" page? The word "Arena" needs the acute accent ("é"). JackkBrown (talk) 13:17, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

This would be accomplished (perhaps by yourself) according to WP:Move, but retaining a redirect from the non-é title would be essential because many searchers cannot conveniently input accented characters.

However, the principle of WP:Article titles#Common name must be considered. This is the English Wikipedia – in English-language sources, is the name written most commonly with or without the accent? Article titles should not be made technically correct if this reduces the practical utility of the encyclopaedia. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 13:37, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

There is no source in the article - English or Czech - which gives the name. In fact the only source in the article (which I have just rescued from the Wayback machine) is a press release about a previous renaming of the stadium. I have tagged it with several tags, including probable non-notability. JackkBrown, I suspect that you have already spent more time on this article that it is worth, and I have gone and wasted even more. ColinFine (talk) 15:50, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Joseph Ferris Perry House article

I submitted recently an article to be reviewed and published. How long does it take to do that? My login is bermudezsolutions.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Regards.

Daniel. Bermudezsolutions (talk) 16:49, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

 Note: OP has been softblocked for contravening the username policy. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:15, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Joseph Ferris Perry House has not in fact been submitted. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:45, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

You have not submitted the draft for review. If you do so in its present state, I am confident that it will be declined, because it does not have any independent sources about the house. Please find at least three sources that meet the golden rule, or the draft has little chance of being accepted. ColinFine (talk) 18:47, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Certainly, the draft needs work, such as removing trivia like "Radiators are in good working order." More references would be great. There is biographical information about Joseph Ferris Perry here. That being said, I think that there is a strong presumption that locations on the National Register of Historic Places are notable. Resources are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. Cullen328 (talk) 18:59, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

It's a copy of Draft:Joseph F. Perry House. Same author? Cabayi (talk) 09:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

it was a misunderstanding, I apologize

I thought I violated the community guidelines but I didn't! I apologize KodBake (talk) 19:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

As I said above, on English Wikipedia you have done nothing at all except apologise three times. The place where you have had material speedily deleted is on Slovenian Wikipedia, which is completely separate from English Wikipedia: that is where you should direct your apology. ColinFine (talk) 21:37, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

hyperlink

How do I create hyperlinks Macalexx (talk) 22:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

@Macalexx: See Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:44, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

AAN doesn't work

I don't get {{aan}}'s navigation on User talk:Aaron Liu/Notifications 2, with or without the underscore in the prefix parameter. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I have added   for the space per Template:Automatic archive navigator#Optional parameters.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 00:03, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Oh my good lord I must have confused URL and HTML encoding. Thanks! Aaron Liu (talk) 00:05, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

May 21

Pescara

Would anyone have an idea how to change the order of the monuments in the first caption? I thought... there is an image in the middle, and therefore it's not correct to use the order "clockwise from top". Page: Pescara. JackkBrown (talk) 01:46, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: You can't change the photo layout unless you create a new montage like File:Pescara_Montage_2018.png. You can edit the info box to use better wording for the caption, if you like. RudolfRed (talk) 04:02, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: change the caption:

top: Port of Pescara and Gran Sasso d'Italia; centre: Palazzo Imperato, Fountain La Nave, Church of the Sacred Heart; bottom: Palazzo di Città, Aurum Museum

I'm not a fan of fixed montages like this as they cause difficulties like the one you're experiencing. There are other tools which could be used, such as {{multiple image}}. Bazza (talk) 09:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: that's what I meant... JackkBrown (talk) 10:31, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: thanks a lot! JackkBrown (talk) 13:18, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

I’ve been accused of abusing multiple accounts, yet I only have one account, so what recourse do I have?

I’ve been accused of Sockpuppetry, yet nothing I’ve ever done is a in any way connected to abusing multiple accounts. This is a completely bogus charge, and I feel that I’ve been defamed. Gomerhodge9 (talk) 03:41, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

hi @Gomerhodge9 and welcome to the Help Desk! you do not seem to have been accused of sockpuppetry (and this seems to be your very first edit), however analyzing the edit filter logs you have tripped, you seem to have tripped a private LTA flag. is that what you meant? 💜  melecie  talk - 03:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

I’m not well-versed in the lingo, but I suppose that could be the case. I’ve only ever done minor edits in completely good faith. Is it possible someone else has somehow hacked me (or something else to that effect)? Gomerhodge9 (talk) 04:04, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Gomerhodge9 Your edit history only has the two posts you posted here. Where did you make these minor edits? 331dot (talk) 06:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Links with unicode fails

The link you get from this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Västerbotten_cheese fails, the ”V” page is shown instead Replacing the ”ä” with ”a” works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasterbotten_cheese

I conclude there are a bug in the URL generation from the title. 94.254.99.106 (talk) 09:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, my fault. The page I added it to deleted the ”ä”. Wikipedia works fine! 94.254.99.106 (talk) 09:35, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Creating Serebii.net

Hi! The page Serebii.net seems to have been created and deleted several times from 2006–2007, and was indefinitely protected from being recreated in 2012. However, I see no reason why it can't be recreated today as a redirect. In fact, it currently exists under a different name: Serebii (Website) redirects to Pokémon#Fan community.

As such, I would like to request that it be recreated. I'm not an administrator and as such can't do it myself, and am also not sure where to go to officially request these types of things. I know Wikipedia:Requested articles exists, but that seems to be for requesting other editors to write standalone pages. I only want to unprotect this page and make it into a redirect.

Thank you! Loytra (talk) 09:33, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

hi @Loytra and welcome to the Help Desk! you may create a draft at Draft:Serebii.net, which is not protected, and pass it through the usual Articles for creation process. Since this seems to be your first proper article (I apologize if I'm wrong), you might wanna read Your first article and Notability (as well as Reliable sources if you haven't yet, and if you had a review is still nice). happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 10:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@loytra: the above answer is wrong. request the redirect creation at the wikipedia:administrators' noticeboard. lettherebedarklight晚安 10:52, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

I completely thought they were referring to making a new article, that's what HD/TH tunnel vision does to you. remind me to read sometimes. apologies for the answer!

actually, won't Requests for reduction in protection level work as well? happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 11:07, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Gianni Morandi

Good morning, I would like to enrich the page dedicated to Gianni Morandi. If I copy the corresponding text from Wikipedia in Italian language, translate it and paste it here, is that allowed? JackkBrown (talk) 11:56, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: Yes and no. A detailed answer can be found at Help:Translation. While content can be translated from another language, you must attribute where you got it from (usually via edit summary) and check to see that it complies with policies on this Wikipedia project, particularly verifiability.

Also please don't machine translate. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:51, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

programming element. valid?

There are lot of articles with {{#ifeq: {{NAMESPACE}} | బొమ్మ | | }} on te wiki. బొమ్మ means image. Preview does not show anything. Is it okay to remove it? As of now i am commenting it out. రుద్రుడు చెచ్క్వికి (talk) 14:01, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

for example: https://te.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E0%B0%95%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%AF%E0%B1%82_%E0%B0%A1%E0%B1%87%E0%B0%9F%E0%B0%BE_%E0%B0%A8%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%B0%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%AE%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%A3%E0%B0%82&oldid=3883088 రుద్రుడు చెచ్క్వికి (talk) 14:23, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@రుద్రుడు చెచ్క్వికి: This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. You appear to be asking about some other Wikipedia. You will need to ask on their help desk, since different Wikipedias can have different policies and conventions. On the English Wikipedia, a construct like this would allow you to code a non-free image in a Draft article that will not appear until the draft is moved into the main namespace, or perhaps added to an article before moving it from mainspace back into draft space. This could be useful because non-free images are not permitted except in main space due to our extremely conservative interpretation of copyright law. -Arch dude (talk) 14:27, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@రుద్రుడు చెచ్క్వికి: I don't know Telugu but examined the background. The code originally [2] said {{ #ifeq: {{NAMESPACE}} | బొమ్మ | [[వర్గం:తొలగించవలసిన బొమ్మలు]] | [[వర్గం:తొలగించవలసిన వ్యాసములు]]}}. It means: If the namespace is called బొమ్మ (image) then add te:వర్గం:తొలగించవలసిన బొమ్మలు which is apparently a Telugu category for images nominated for deletion. If the namespace is not బొమ్మ then add te:వర్గం:తొలగించవలసిన వ్యాసములు which is another category for pages nominated for deletion. The Telugu Wikipedia currently has no namespace called బొమ్మ (image) so the condition would be false no matter where the code is. However, long ago Wikipedia changed the "Image" namespace to be called "File" (దస్త్రం in Telugu) because it can contain other types of files than images. If the code had said దస్త్రం (file) then it would have tested whether the proposed deletion was of a file and originally used it to decide which category to add. The current version of the code has removed the categories so it does nothing. I don't know the Telugu deletion processes or language so I'm not sure whether something should be done other than removing the currently broken code. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

File:0x10c_logo.png is probably in the Public Domain

I've already said this on WP:MCQ , so I'll just copy-paste the same thing here so I can get a faster answer:

The tag on File:0x10c_logo.png says that it's protected by copyright but I think that it's in the Public Domain. After reading commons:COM:TOO Sweden (the country the logo originated from) and commons:COM:TOO US , I'm pretty sure the logo does not meet the threshold of originality in both countries. Is it okay if I change the tag to Template:pd-textlogo ? Zbelios (talk) 14:33, 21 May 2023 (UTC

I am not an expert in such matters, but speaking as a disinterested passer-by, it looks pretty original to me – my former profession included elements of typography and graphics, and I don't recall ever seeing that particular 3-D lettering style, so it's not just using a common typeface. My rule-of-thumb for non-originality would be "can you describe the logo in a few words that would enable someone to duplicate it accurately?" Perhaps there are better ones. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 15:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

" '0x10c' written with simple gray letters, extending into the background. "

Looks pretty simple to be copyrighted to me. Zbelios (talk) 15:45, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

2017 Wikitext Editor

Hello. Somehow I have activated the 2017 Wikitext Editor on my account and I have no idea how to fix it. Cherrell410 (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Cherrell410 See this link for what it is/was and how to turn it off. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:13, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Sarve

I am having an issue with the reference this page uses. If you click the link it says access restricted and the ref tag shows {EHAK|7438} as the ref. What is this? 2600:8801:CA05:EF00:D41E:2828:7AA7:A58D (talk) 18:59, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP editor. It appears that the citation is now a dead link to an Estonian website and I can't find it at the Wayback machine. Some information on the village of Sarve is now at an Estonian statistics website with this search in English but I'm not sure what would be the best content to link to. Perhaps you would like to take a look and amend the article accordingly. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:46, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Can I make a page on "Tripper (Chess)" over redirect to Fairy chess pieces?

Alright, so, first things first, the Greek Wikipedia has an article on this piece, whereas the English Wikipedia has a redirect to the page on fairy pieces. Am I allowed to replace the redirect with a new article on this piece?

Signed, [[User:The Master of Hedgehogs|The Master of Hedgehogs]] (talk) 19:51, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello. The (first part of the) answer to all questions about "Can I make an article about XXX?" is "Can you find several reliable sources, wholly independent of the subject, each of which contains significant coverage of the subject?".

If the answer is "No", then you cannot make an acceptable article about the subject.

The Greek article el:Ταξιδευτής (σκάκι) contains only two citations, both to Chessvariants.org. I'm not sure whether Wikipedia would regard that as a reliable source (The Chess Variant Pages quotes a description of it as "run by hobbyists for hobbyists"), but in any case the pages in question say "This page is written by the game's inventor, Ralph Betza", which means that it is assuredly not an independent source. So what you should not do is translate the Greek article, without finding more sources.

It seems likely that the David Pritchard book would be acceptable as a source (it is published by a reputable publisher, though whether his role as the president of the BCVS would make it non-independent is not clear to me). But you would certainly need more sources, and preferably from writers unconnected with the society. ColinFine (talk) 21:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

P.S. The diagram on the Greek Wikipedia article shows a ship/boat Signed, [[User:The Master of Hedgehogs|The Master of Hedgehogs]] (talk) 19:51, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

New template category not populating?

I recently created a new template, Template:27TeamBracket-3way (for a three-round knockout tournament with three competitors per match; see Celebrity Jeopardy! (2022 TV series) for an example) as well as a parent category, Category:27-Team bracket templates, which I added the new template to via its documentation, the same way that similar templates like Template:9TeamBracket-3way was added to a similar category. I'm aware there's sometimes a caching delay with categories, but it's been several days and it hasn't shown up, and the category has been tagged for speedy deletion as empty. What step have I missed? — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 20:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't think you've missed anything (i.e what you did should have worked), but you can force the caching issue to go away by WP:NULLEDITing the template. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Ah, that worked, thanks! — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 20:20, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

How to locate WP initiaties?

Greetings,
How do I locate past and present WP initiatives? Today, I am specifically interested in an initiative from a few months ago called (I think) "She Said" or something similar.
Thank you for your help, Wordreader (talk) 21:31, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Wordreader: You can search the project namespace with wp: in front of a search. wp:"she said" doesn't give relevant results but wp:shesaid finds a tab at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Loves Women linking to meta:Wiki Loves Women/SheSaid. Some initiatives are at Meta which is not searched by our search box but you can start a search at meta: where meta:SheSaid redirects to meta:Wiki Loves Women/SheSaid. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

May 22

How do I delete my account?

How do I delete my account? Elipencils1990 (talk) 00:25, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

hi @Elipencils1990 and welcome to Wikipedia! unfortunately due to technical and legal (basically, the attribution to your edits cannot be removed) reasons, deletion of accounts is not really possible. you may just abandon the account you're using instead. happy reading! 💜  melecie  talk - 00:29, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

A courtesy vanishing may be possible. 331dot (talk) 00:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Glen Affric

Ref number 25 is all wrong I think - please leave in quote if you fix this up. Thank you in advance. 115.70.23.77 (talk) 01:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't see an obvious (to me) error. Please explain what is wrong and what you have done to try and fix it. RudolfRed (talk) 01:58, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

(1) For some reason, you've got © Future US, Inc. Full 7th Floor, 130 West 42nd Street, New York, NY 10036 within the value for "journal=". Simply delete it. (2) We read: Since 2008 this land has been held by David Matthews, whose eldest son James Matthews is married to Pippa Middleton, sister to Catherine, Princess of Wales. Does "held" mean "owned"; and if not, what does it mean? When we mention somebody, why also mention his son, who the son is married to, and who the sister of the wife is? -- Hoary (talk) 03:31, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

how to color a table in wikipedia

how to color a table in wikipedia BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE (talk) 03:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

hi @BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE! you may color a cell in a table using CSS by adding style="background: #ff0000" | [table contents] as the contents of a cell. see Tables for more. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 03:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

already figured it out. thanks though BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE (talk) 03:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@BreadGuy1922AUTOMOBILE: Be aware, if you colour backgrounds, that you also need to consider WP:ACCESSIBILITY for the foreground colour. See MOS:CONTRAST, and this tool for checking. Your sandbox (currently) looks ok. Bazza (talk) 08:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia Knowledge Block

Trull Service is one of the notable mineral management companies which was founded in 1910 by B.W. Trull. Trull relocated to Midfield, Texas near the Texas Gulf Coast, and quickly began acquiring land while developing his business through agricultural and oil and gas endeavors.

Suggest some ideas of creating Wikipedia knowledge block for this service. Trullservice9 (talk) 09:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@trullservice9: what? we don't have knowledge blocks. are you talking about an article? lettherebedarklight晚安 09:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Trullservice9: Before you edit any further, please

1. Read the policy about paid contributions and do the appropriate (mandatory) disclosure, assuming you are an employee / contractor for Trull Service
2. Because usernames implying shared use are not allowed, go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest and ask for a change of username to something specific to the person rather than the company. (For instance, "JohnDoeAtTrullService" is fine.)

Once that’s done, please read about Wikipedia’s specific notion of "notability". It does not mean "worthy of being noted", it means "already noted". That is proven by sources that are (1) independent of the subject, (2) reliable, and (3) deal with the subject at length. In 99% of cases, that would be in-depth newspaper articles.

In a cursory web search, I found nothing proving that Trull Service is notable under Wikipedia’s definition of the term. However, it is very possible that non-online sources exist, or paywalled sources, or industry-specific sources that do not come up high in online searches, etc. Do you have anything? Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 10:07, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

If you are talking about the block of information which Google often shows, that is Google's affair, not Wikipedia's. It often draws information from Wikipedia (which it is entitled to do), and many people mistakenly think it all comes from Wikipedia.

If there were a Wikipedia article on Trull Service, it is likely that Google would display a block including infornation from there. But Wikipedia has no control over how Google uses its information. As others have explained, there can be a Wikipedia article on the company only if it meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 10:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Furthermore, creating a complete new article on Wikipedia is genuinely one of the most difficult things you can do here: try reading Wikipedia:Your first article. The learning curve - including mastering the jargon - is very steep indeed. P.S. If you have anything to do with the company's website, https://trullservice.com/, I suggest you get them to fire the graphic designer and change the layout: black text over a dark green image on the home page is totally illegible, and the https://trullservice.com/mineral-management-company-in-texas/ page looks as if it has been severely ████████ redacted. MinorProphet (talk) 11:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Which template to use: Strong or Em

MOS:BOLD says this:

For semantical emphasis (to denote importance, seriousness, or urgency), you can also use the HTML element <strong>...</strong>, or the template {{strong}}. This is desirable because the words can stand out for text to speech and other software, important due to accessibility issues.

It then contradicts this in the When not to use boldface section:

Avoid using boldface for emphasis in article text. Instead, use HTML's <em>...</em> element or the {{em|...}} template (which usually render as italic).

So which one should be used? Aaron Liu (talk) 11:38, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I would suggest that apart from distinguishing the subject title of an article or associated words eg the Wikipedia Help Desk, there is very rarely any need for bold in standard article text, and almost never for emphasis. The {{em}} should be sparingly used, but even then the MOS recommends re-writing if possible to avoid the need for emphasis at all. Otherwise use ''plain italics'', and things like {{lang}} can be used for foreign languages. Do you have a specific example? MinorProphet (talk) 12:06, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

<em>...</em> and <strong>...</strong> have semantic meaning: stress and importance respectively; see The em element and The strong element. MediaWiki uses <strong>...</strong> for various error messages. I don't know if MediaWiki uses <em>...</em>.

Article text in Wikipedia's voice should not need either of these tags.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

How do I crop a photo in an infobox picture?

Do I need to go to the Wikimedia Commons page and make a new, cropped, version? Or is there a way to use the existing photo and add some parameters to center-crop it? Wes sideman (talk) 13:54, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Wes sideman There is a good cropping tool on Commons but the alternatives are described at H:PIC, especially Help:Pictures#Tip. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:06, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Wes sideman, there's no need to create and upload a cropped version, you can just use a "detail", a cropped version, of an image at Commons. For how, see User:Maproom/cropping. An advantage is that it's then very easy to adjust the cropping if you've want to change it. Maproom (talk) 16:09, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Maproom, @Wes sideman. There is another consideration when cropping using the {{CSS image crop}} method within an infobox. If you do so rather than use a true crop (via Commons) then the page preview that appears for example with the navigation tool is the full uncropped image. You can see this by previewing the link Maproom provided. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:37, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

myself

Can I add myself to Wikipedia? I am the first American woman ever to win child custody in an Egyptian court. 2600:1700:EB40:6A80:5D8:5019:B315:7A5C (talk) 14:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

No, you can't; all you have to do is ask that the article be written. If I may ask, who are you specifically? Dancing Dollar ^{(let's talk)} 14:20, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

It is not absolutely forbidden for people to write about themselves, but it is highly discouraged. She may proceed as I describe below if she chooses. 331dot (talk) 14:21, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

(ec) Wikipedia is not a place for people to write about themselves(please see the autobiography policy)- it is a place to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. If independent sources write about you and the significance of you winning custody in Egypt, an article may be possible, but it would be best if independent editors wholly unconnected with you wrote it. It is usually difficult for people to write about themselves as Wikipedia requires, but if you truly feel you can do so, please see Articles for Creation regarding creating and submitting a draft. 331dot (talk) 14:20, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

You should also be aware of the very good reasons to not want an article about yourself. 331dot (talk) 14:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I second the above advice. Congratulations, American woman, but you may end up with more enemies than friends. If anything goes wrong in, say ten years time, and it gets into the papers, and there is a Wikipedia article about you, you may rue the day when you wished for fame. Stay proud and anonymous. MinorProphet (talk) 15:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, if my notability was something along those lines, I think I'd prefer to keep that notability under the radar. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:46, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Where to find articles missing in English

Hi there,

I had a question regarding translations and what articles are missing from the English Wikipedia. Is there a place where it shows what articles are on other Wikis but not here? For example, for the Russian Wikipedia, would there potentially be a list of articles there that are not here? I'm not talking about something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles_needing_translation_from_Russian_Wikipedia

That is simply a list of articles that have an expansion tag at the top; those articles exist already. I'm looking for those that don't exist here at all but do on other language Wikis. Thanks in advance for the help! Losipov (talk) 18:23, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Losipov, WP:WikiProject Intertranswiki is the place where such efforts are coordinated, and they have lists of various articles which they've deemed need translation. You could start at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/Russian/Biography, then move on to buildings, culture, etc. via the links at the top, looking for something which interests you. (Not all of the categories have a "Missing articles" section, but some do.) 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:45, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

If you are interested in writing articles about women, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red has redlists at WP:WIR/REDLIST. TSventon (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Mansfield bus station

Hi, Could someone please fix the cite issue at Mansfield bus station please because I cannot figure out for the life of me what the actual issue is, I know it's going to be something stupidly simple because it always is, Many thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Davey2010: Done it. (Used visual editor's cite in automatic mode.) And fixed infobox-disabled at the same time. Bazza (talk) 20:19, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks @Bazza 7 your help is greatly appreciated, Many thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 20:21, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Igbo Jews

The information needs to be updated for the recognition of the Igbo Jews. They have been recognized by the Sepharad Bet din Obadyah Alliance In Florida. Once Approved by One Bet din it goes for all bet din. "On the 14th day of January 2022 [12 Shebat 5782], the Jewish Rabbinate of the Obadyah Alliance [Dayan Jacob de Oliveira, Dayan Eliezer Tabor, Dayan Yehonatan Elazar-DeMota, Rabbi Hananiah Cohen, and Rabbi Haim Ovadia] ruled that the Igbos of Nigeria are descendants of ancient Israelites. Please do your research and update this information. Igbo1961 (talk) 21:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Noted. Remember that Wikipedia is a volunteer community, so it could take anywhere from hours to decades before sourced information is added to Igbo Jews. And that is assuming it is notable enough to mention in the article. Do not edit the article directly, as you have a WP:COI (from your username). Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 21:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Richard Fletcher Conductor Page

First question: I would like to add a photo to my wiki page. Could someone tell me how to do that?

Second question: I would like to add the additional information that appears on the right side when you look up a name. It usually has the name, information, and sometimes several photos. How do I add this? Rfprizm (talk) 21:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)