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I am Zeytoon from Afghanistan but I live in Italy, I am using shared IP in here and 1 year I was working on Wikipedia and made more than 100 articles and edited more than 1000 articles, but I don't know why I got a sock puppetry alert and all of contributions deleted because if cross-wiki spam.

I am native Persian and I speak, Pashto, English, Arabic, Spanish, Italian and French.

I have made this account about 1 or two months ago, but I have not changed my IP.

How is it possible to work on Wikipedia and recreate the last subjects I have been created and work on better Wikipedia about personalities, Poets, Singer,... which are eligible for Wikipedia.

Thanks for your precious time for reading this and I am waiting for the answer. Grapexels79 (talk) 16:33, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Zeytoon, and welcome to the Teahouse. Once you have created an are using your account, your IP address becomes invisible to almost all other editors. This account has edited only in en-wiki and in Wikidata, and I don't see any sock-puppet notifications on either.

To know how to create an article in English Wikipedia, please start by reading your first article. ColinFine (talk) 17:32, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@Grapexels79 and ColinFine: And for those few who CAN view your IP, they won't unless you're very suspicious. QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 18:31, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, I am familiar with Wikipedia, Even I have a course about Wikipedia in Udemy. Grapexels79 (talk) 18:31, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@Grapexels79 I see no evidence of the account you are currently using ever having edited other language Wikipedias. In fact it has made very few edits. So, re-reading your question, it appreciate that you're saying all you editing was done whilst not logged in; i.e. as an IP user.

If you can tell us the titles of a few articles you created on English Wikipedia, I, or other administrators here can look to see the reason for their deletion. If, for example, you edited as an IP user, then it's possible that someone before you was allocated that IP address and used it to edit Wikipedia. If they were then blocked, it's possible that those edits you legitimately made from the same IP address after it had been re-allocated to you might have looked like WP:SOCKPUPPETRY, or a check user linked to Ip address to the same person. In that instance, all articles and many edits created by a sock puppet account are liable to be deleted.

You might not wish to publicly tell us what your your IP address was, but I'm not sure there is much more explanation we can offer unless you feed us something to work from, such as deleted article titles with unambiguous spellings that we can search for. I hope this helps, and I can understand your frustration.

(If you are wary of making public your IP address, you can, if you wish, email me directly and let me know your IP address, and I will take a look at its contributions. I would not reply by email, but would do so on your user talkpage.) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:17, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reply, the edits that I have done was in another acc which blocked and all reverted and the articles have been deleted. Grapexels79 (talk) 15:35, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

@Grapexels79, you were blocked on a previous account? Then you are evading a block and should be blocked on this account as well. You are not allowed to simply create a new account in order to edit again, you must successfully appeal the block on your original account. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 13:59, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

1 year ago it was happened, not in these months Grapexels79 (talk) 18:07, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Grapexels79 Has the block now expired? If 'yes', you should use that account again ( or at least declare your links to a past blocked account). If 'no', you are in breach of our rules and have no right to edit here until you block has expired, or you have appealed for an WP:UNBLOCK. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:18, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Is this a worthy source?

Hello, I am working on making a new page for The APT foundation in New Haven Connecticut. My first draft did not include proper sources. I found an audit of the organization that includes descriptions of their practices.

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DOC/Pdf/PREA/2021_2022AuditsHalfway/2022-APT-Foundation-New-Haven-Substance-Abuse-Facility-PREA-Audit-Final-Report.pdf

Does this source meet wikipedia's guidelines? Ksundy414 (talk) 19:48, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Ksundy414. That is a standardized government document, and is therefore a primary source. It appears likely that every similar facility in that state has a similar report. Accordingly, it is routine. Although primary sources can have limited usage, notibility is established through secondary sources, specifically, significant coverage in reliable sources that are entirely independent of the topic. What makes this particular treatment center different from other treatment centers? Wikipedia is not a directory of every treatment center on Earth, only the notable ones. Cullen328 (talk) 20:02, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Great, this was a very helpful response, thank you. Ksundy414 (talk) 19:34, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Since it’s from an official government entity, it should be considered reliable for Wikipedia purposes. Mrffcknt (talk) 04:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

But, to be clear, it might be reliable as to facts, but it cannot contribute to demonstrating Notability, without which no article is possible. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.140.169 (talk) 17:50, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I do not see a "Thank" link on article history pages - why?

Screenshot of 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup history page

This must be something I'm doing (or not doing) because the ability to thank other editors is alive and well. But I cannot see a "Thank" link for edits made by other registered users on an article's page history. Why might that be?

For clarity, I understand that to receive notification that another editor thanked me, I must have such a notification enabled in on my preferences page, which I do, but I'm talking about my being able to thank another Wikipedian. Thanks! Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 20:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@Markworthen That's a curious issue. I've currently got two accounts running (my admin account, plus a 'new user' account I have specifically for for making screenshots for training purposes). I've looked at the revision history of 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup in both of them, and the 'thank' link is visible against every entry on each account. I'm not aware that it can be turned off by a user, so I'm wondering if you've only just started experiencing this whilst logged on today. Or has it been ongoing for a while? If the former, maybe try logging off and logging on again in case something didn't quite load up for this particular session. Failing that, this might be a question best left to the real experts over at WP:VPT. NM Demo 2 (talk) 20:58, 8 August 2023 (UTC) (oops, now re-signing this from the correct account!) Nick Moyes (talk) 21:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

That worked! (Logging off and back in.) Many thanks ~ Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) [he/him] 23:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Markworthen Yay! Sometimes the simplest things are the best. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:10, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding account deletion

If I don't spend that much time on Wikipedia, will my account be terminated? Enterthemood (talk) 13:41, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

no cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 13:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

hi Enterthemood and welcome to the Teahouse! in fact, accounts cannot be deleted ever due to various technical and legal reasons. if one wants to delete an account, they'd have to go through Vanishing process to rename their username to gibberish, and even that isn't perfect. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 13:47, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

courtesy ping: Enterthemood 💜  melecie  talk - 13:47, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

And nor will your user page or talk page be deleted or cleared. The only thing that gets deleted through inactivity is drafts that haven't been touched in six months. ColinFine (talk) 14:33, 9 August , 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! That was some great help. And also, I'll remember now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enterthemood (talk • contribs) 21:54, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Disambiguation page for Life Centre

Should a disambiguation page be created for the term 'Life Centre'?. I ask as I was struggling to find the article associated specific location of Plymouth life centre as upon searching 'Life Centre' on wikipedia, a stub article with no references comes up first. This seems unhelpful as I feel we should at least have some sort of distinguish tag to show other articles with similar names.

Potential articles which could be disambiguated:

Places

Life Center Academy

Plymouth Life Centre

Mobile Life Centre

Christian Life Center Academy

Southern Life Centre

Sutton Life Centre

Other uses

Life-centered pregnancy counselling

Christian Life Centre

TenToe (talk) 21:16, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

@TenToe: I say go for it, create the disambiguation page. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:35, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok thanks! TenToe (talk) 21:41, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Life Centre (Disambiguation) TenToe (talk) 22:00, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

TenToe, as there was no reason for capitalizing "Disambiguation", I moved this to Life Centre (disambiguation). Whereupon I fully woke up, and realized that as there was no article "Life Centre" there was no need for "(disambiguation)", and therefore moved it to Life Centre. (Memo to self: First wake, then edit.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:55, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Not a problem. Thanks very much for that realization and improvement :) TenToe (talk) 11:20, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

as long as you don't wake, then bake, then edit... --Jayron32 13:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

updating a title in a draft

Hello - I just created my first draft in wikipedia, but I added the word DRAFT to the title and cannot seem to remove it (I have read about moving a page to rename but I don't have that option, maybe because I am a new user). Any help to update my draft article would be appreciated. Thank you! Draft:DRAFT Amra Sabic-El-Rayess Interfaith Lab (talk) 21:34, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

@Interfaith Lab: The title is now Draft:Amra Sabic-El-Rayess.

Is your username an organization name? Organizations aren't permitted to have Wikipedia accounts, only individual people can. Please go to WP:CHU and request a name change if it's an org name.

In addition to removing all the inline external links and cutting down the CV information (Wikipedia isn't a CV), you're also going to need to explain how this person meets WP:NPROF. It's highly unlikely that an associate professor would qualify for having a Wikipedia article. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:41, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your assistance and feedback. I am working on changing my name and we are carefully re-reviewing the guidelines. 2601:84:C801:AC40:E58B:67B3:5C11:A654 (talk) 13:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse and to Wikipedia. I always advise new editors not to even try creating an article until they have a few weeks or months of experience improving some of our six million articles and learning how Wikipedia works. It is like buying a violin and having one lesson and then booking a hall to give a public recital: you're going to get disappointed and frustrated.

When you are ready to try, please start by studying Your first article ColinFine (talk) 14:42, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Interfaith Lab: Who is this "we" you are referring to? Is your account being used by more than one person? ~Anachronist (talk) 01:39, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Thin font

Wikipedia's new font is almost unreadable (but THIS font that I'm entering is nice and black). Why? I need a magnifying glass to read the instructions here. This is NOT a good change, guys. 72.35.131.167 (talk) 06:18, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Try pressing CTRL+0 to reset the font size. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Seeking Guidance for Creating a New Page for Our Organization

Dear Team,

I am excited to share that I am embarking on the journey of creating a new Wikipedia page for our organization. As this is my first time attempting this task, I kindly request your guidance and support to ensure a successful and informative page. I have taken the first step towards creating a Wikipedia account on behalf of our organization. Now, I'm looking to create a draft and eventually a new page to enhance our online presence. I kindly request your guidance to help me navigate through this process successfully. Here's where I would greatly appreciate your assistance: · Creating a Wikipedia Draft: · Could you please provide step-by-step instructions on how to create a draft for our organization's Wikipedia page? · What are the key elements that should be included in the draft? · How can I ensure that the draft adheres to Wikipedia's guidelines and standards? Transitioning to a New Page: · Once the draft is complete, what is the process for transitioning it into a new page? · Are there any specific formatting guidelines or tips that I should be aware of when creating the new page? · How can I make the page engaging and informative while maintaining accuracy and neutrality?

I would appreciate a written guide that outlines the steps and best practices for creating both the draft and the new page. Your support in this matter means a lot to me.

Best regards, Trina Chakraborty LDGurgaon (talk) 06:57, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, LDGurgaon. Please be aware that writing a new page to enhance our online presence is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. We have no interest in "enhancing" your "online presence", so please drop that line of argument. You are obviously a paid editor. Your next edit should be to make the Paid contributions disclosure. This is mandatory and non-negotiable. Then, read the notability guideline for businesses and Your first article. Then, read about the Articles for creation process, which is required for editors like you with a Conflict of interest. Please be aware that marketing, advertising, promotion and public relations activities are forbidden on Wikipedia. Your contributions must comply with the neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. Cullen328 (talk) 07:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lakshya Digital where this was previously deleted as not notable. Theroadislong (talk) 07:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

To repeat the old joke "If I were you, I wouldn't' start from here". Embarking on the journey of creating a new Wikipedia page for our organization is embarking on a journey in a different country from Wikipedia. The only goal of a journey in Wikipedia is to improve Wikipedia - to make it a more complete and accurate summary of what has been published in reliable sources, independent of the subject. (There are of course subsidiary personal goals, such as contributing to a valuable resource, meeting like-minded editors and so on. But enhancing the on-line presence of anybody or anything is absolutely not a suitable goal for editing Wikipedia.) ColinFine (talk) 14:49, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello LDGurgaon. It may be helpful to read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If a draft article is accepted, that article won’t belong to you to or the organization. It could be edited by anyone who found a reliable reference about the organization – even if the edit includes information that you would prefer to leave out of the article. Your organization may want to consider starting a website, or posting on a social media platform that does not have strict notability guidelines. Best wishes on your efforts. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:40, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Contradictory statements in article

I asked yesterday at the Teahouse how to put an image into the following Wikipedia article: Dadvan Yousuf

When I started reading the article after, I noticed that there is a lot of misinformation and contradiction in this article.

Can someone who is more expert take a look? To me, it reads like an ex-girlfriend wrote the article lol 195.132.212.135 (talk) 09:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, Welcome to the Teahouse!

I agree the article is a little un-encyclopaedic and promotional in tone: I might have time to clean it up later today. Could you point out the bits which are misinformation or contradictory? Everything seems fairly well sourced. Qcne (talk) 09:25, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I've cleaned up some of the language. How does it read now? Qcne (talk) 09:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

First of all, very cool that you responded so quickly, thanks for the support.

I did some research on the person and can tell you that a lot of information in the article is misrepresented and not correct in content.

For example, the text claims that the Swiss Financial Market Authority would investigate a foundation for money laundering, but financial market authorities are not responsible for such things but supervisory law.

As far as I have researched, the Financial Market Authority has completed its enforcement proceedings but the article says it is on going.

And then at the bottom there is a fat text about possible debts which is based on only 1 source - is this at all Wikipedia compliant ? or rather Ex girlfriend style 🤣 195.132.212.135 (talk) 09:59, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Another thing is: very often articles are taken and added as a source that have nothing to do with the text content in this article itself, just to put the person in a bad light and make it look like those are facts. 195.132.212.135 (talk) 10:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

A single source can be used for a statement, as long as the source is reliable. But obviously a source has to be relevant- article content should just be paraphrasing what the source states, so if the source contradicts the statement then either the statement needs to be removed, amended, or a better sourced found! It sounds like you might be better placed to improve this article, so why don't you Wikipedia:Be bold and make some changes yourself? Just remember to source everything correctly (see Wikipedia:Sources for lots more information). Qcne (talk) 11:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Qcnei can not change anything because the page is semi protected and i dont have the know how to make changes. 195.132.212.135 (talk) 11:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Alright, I'll try have a deeper look sometime later this week. Do you have any good sources from your own research you could provide? Makes sense not to re-do any work you've already done! Qcne (talk) 12:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Greetings everyone,

I received a message in my talk area from the individual who initiated this section. There appears to be a clear disturbance and the use of fake accounts in this particular article. About a year ago, I made a brief modification to this article. Living in Switzerland, I learned about the person's journey through the media. This individual is known for generating controversy.

To user @Qcne, I am willing to thoroughly review the entire content, conduct research, make necessary adjustments, expansions, and optimizations. I kindly request that you closely monitor my edits and make any necessary alterations, corrections, or deletions. My intention is to ensure that the entire article maintains a proper and appropriate tone. VioKleraBam (talk) 13:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @VioKleraBam. That sounds positive! I'll keep the article in my watch history. Qcne (talk) 13:30, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Qcne Sounds good - il start working on it! VioKleraBam (talk) 13:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

The editor who created the previous section about images is Lupin6PainTendo a brand new account and the creator of this section is an IP (who claims they were the editor from the previous section) using similar similar language to the socks, why do I get the feeling that these are more socks? Lavalizard101 (talk) 13:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't really understand what's going on, but I'll note that @VioKleraBam has been blocked as a sockpuppet. CodeTalker (talk) 19:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @CodeTalker, I think we've identified a bunch of socks including the IP editor at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kanimultan.

I've gone ahead and cleaned up the article Dadvan Yousuf as best I can- would appreciate some more eyes on it though! Qcne (talk) 19:16, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Visual editor

Recently I started an account to edit but I seem to find the Visual Editing: is just me? DontMindMe42069 (talk) 09:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @DontMindMe42069, Welcome to the Teahouse! I split this into a new section as you seemed to have replied under the Contradictory statements in article section above.

Not sure what you are asking- would you mind rephrasing? Can you not find the Visual Editor? When you edit an article, click the little Pencil icon to switch between the Source and Visual editor. Note that the Visual Editor is not yet available in talk or discussion namespaces. Qcne (talk) 09:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I was trying to ask a question but i seemed to reply to another by accident! I solved the problem now. Sorry for wasting time DontMindMe42069 (talk) 09:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

No worries :) Qcne (talk) 09:28, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

World war

What date does the war (world )declared that it has ended — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2880:30FF:74:0:0:FACE:B00C (talk) 10:58, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. Check our articles World War I and World War II. Qcne (talk) 11:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Why was my article deleted about Meer Akhtar Hussain and can anyone help me to rectify my mistakes

Why was my article deleted about Meer Akhtar Hussain and can anyone help me to rectify my mistakes Amreshkr20 (talk) 11:07, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello and welcome. You have a draft Draft:Meer Akhtar Hussain which was declined, not deleted. The reviewer left the reason for their decline at the top. Do you have questions about it? 331dot (talk) 11:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

yes i am not getting it why is it declied Meer is a well known person in Indian National Congress and whatever information provided is correct Amreshkr20 (talk) 11:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

You only have two sources, neither of which seem to have significant coverage of this man. He seems to be an ordinary party official and would not meet the specific Wikipedia definition of a notable politician, which generally requires that one hold a public office(like being in a provincial or national legislature, or president) or have at least won election to a public office- he has run for a municipal board, but not won. The draft says "he is responsible for managing important processes" in the Indian Youth Congress but does not say what those processes were or what makes them important or influential due to his influence. (which would need to be found in an independent reliable source) The personal life section is unsourced- if you only know this through personal knowledge, it needs to be removed. 331dot (talk) 11:17, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I have corrected few things can you please check as i mentioned that he won and also explained about his work as a RO. he is also zonal coordinator of RGPRS which is been directly appointed by K.C Venugopal (Incharge Organisation) and is considered to be a very important position in party Amreshkr20 (talk) 11:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

For any chance at a successful article you would probably need to show that he meets the broader definition of a notable person. 331dot (talk) 11:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I can post his appointment letters will it work Amreshkr20 (talk) 11:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

if he's well-known, reliable sources (as in ones independent from him, and that don't lie about what he does) should reflect that

if there are none in the article, there's a chance that you haven't looked around enough, or that he's not actually notable enough (or at least not yet)

keep in mind that self-published sources, like social media posts or youtube reaction videos, are not considered reliable because anyone can say anything in them, like me saying that meer is "australian, actually"

if they're completely unsourced, they're likely to be considered original research, which is pretty much invariably not good when it comes to politicians cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 11:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I can post appointment letters as a source will it work? Amreshkr20 (talk) 11:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Private documents are not acceptable as sources, and are a primary source, which does not establish notability. There needs to be news coverage or books about this man that discuss what they see as important about him. 331dot (talk) 11:54, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

You wrote "he is responsible for managing important processes like scrunity of all the new members of INC and conducting Internal party Electons". That's something that anyone in his position would do. Does he have a particular influence that other did not? Introduce new policies or procedures that are unique and emulated by.others? 331dot (talk) 11:56, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

He is considered as a key figure of Assam congress and is appointed as a zonal coordinator which is a very immportant post in the party i have also added reference of this Amreshkr20 (talk) 12:07, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

if he is, sources should establish that

if they don't, he's probably not notable by wikipedia's standards

for articles you intend on getting out, especially biographies about politicians, every statement needs a source cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 12:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Your article still has only two sources: the first is a one-sentence twitter post that just states that Hussain has been appointed to a post, and the second is an article about an unrelated subject that merely mentions Hussain's name. You need much better sources, that actually discuss Hussain in some depth. The work he has done and how "well known" he is are irrelevant. Please read WP:RS and WP:N to understand the type of sources that are necessary to demonstrate that the subject is notable. CodeTalker (talk) 19:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding wikipedia title

Can i use a title like Brand Name( Furniture Brand) Surajbht (talk) 11:18, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Surajbht Assuming that the brand you are writing about is notable, the article should be just titled Brand Name, unless there is already an article by that name, in which case the name would be Brand Name (furniture). —C.Fred (talk) 11:21, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Is there any criteria for a notable business? Surajbht (talk) 11:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

that would be at Notability for organizations, although there has to be reliable sources that are independent from the subject that say such first (it can't just be the company saying they are X). happy editing!

unrelated: No Name (brand), is that you? 💜  melecie  talk - 11:31, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

If i provide a sandbox link to you, can you proof read it and let me know the mistakes Surajbht (talk) 11:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Currently, you have no article-like content in your Sandbox. A recommended path for creating a draft is described at WP:YFA. Submitting the draft puts it in the (large) list of drafts waiting for an experienced reviewer. David notMD (talk) 11:47, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

It appears that you moved your draft into the encyclopedia yourself, and then it was deleted. Writing a new article is the most difficult task to perform here, and it's highly advised that you first submit a draft for review via WP:AFC. I'm wondering if you work for this company? 331dot (talk) 11:48, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Now i have created a sandbox, can you check? Surajbht (talk) 12:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Surajbht. Unfortunately the article in it's present state is completely inappropriate for Wikipedia and will never be accepted. You have zero sources.

Companies must pass the aforementioned Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) criteria. Qcne (talk) 12:17, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Per your Talk page, attempts to create an article about ISHO had been Speedy deleted three times, and the topic protected, so that any new attempt requires permission of the Administrator Liz who put a protection block on it in July. David notMD (talk) 14:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

how to talk Administrator Liz for permission Surajbht (talk) 15:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

You can leave a message on her Talk Page. Qcne (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

can i create a new page with different title Surajbht (talk) 15:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Not if the company does not pass the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) criteria, no. If you do try and create more unsourced pages then you will be blocked from editing.

Do you have a connection to this company? Are you employed by them? Qcne (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

no Surajbht (talk) 16:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

If by "can i create a new page with different title?" you meant an entirely different topic with no connection to ISHO, "Yes, you can." David notMD (talk) 17:43, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

File:Margaret, Maid of Norway in the Lerwick Town Hall (cropped).jpg

This file is completely broken according to license and summary. Can you fix it? #bodyContent aFlag Creator { background-color: #ffa500; color: #ggggggg; font-weight: monoscope; } 12:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Is your signature perhaps broken, Flag Creator? Anyway, you can (on Commons, not Wikipedia) fix the copyleft information by using information you'll find at File:Stained Glass Windows, Lerwick Town Hall - geograph.org.uk - 2068918.jpg. -- Hoary (talk) 12:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes my signature is also broken because I have no idea what was wrong #bodyContent aFlag Creator { background-color: #ffa500; color: #ggggggg; font-weight: monoscope; } 13:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

help me make an article

i spent some time making an article on a subject that dosen't really have a description, so i did a general explanation. i skimped over some things, and didn't go that in depth. i wanted to use that as a place holder for the real article, but that didn't work. can someone give me advice on how to make a more... in depth article? if you can, please tell me. thank you to everyone on wikipedia :D Sr Pancake. (talk) 13:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Assuming you are talking about Draft:Weirdcore, it should have at least three independent, reliable sources per general notability guidelines. The only citation you have right now is unreliable because it is user generated content (and also doesn't have a url attached). I will try to clean up some parts of it to comply with the Manual of Style but you might want to consider either switching to the Visual Editor or learning the coding system by looking at other articles. ✶Mitch199811✶ 13:24, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Sr Pancake.. Welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse!

In addition to @Mitch199811's advice about sources I would have a read of Help:Your first article which gives some excellent guidance. Writing a new Wikipedia page is one of the most complex tasks on Wikipedia, so you may feel a bit daunted as there are a lot of policies and guidelines to comply with.

As for your draft Draft:Weirdcore, I wonder if maybe it isn't substantial enough to have it's own article at this present time. Perhaps it could be added to Internet culture or Internet meme? As long as it is fully sourced, though, of course. Qcne (talk) 13:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Adding navigation templates en masse

I've just created Template:language verbs to help organize the dozens of articles about verbs of the world's languages. Is there an easier way (e.g. employing a bot) to add the template to the articles than to add them manually one-by-one? Thanks! Jonashtand (talk) 13:58, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Johnashtand, and welcome to the Teahouse.

(disclaimer: I have never used either of the following, but I have seen them recommended for this kind of question.)

1. Possibly this is something that AWB could do.

2. Failing that, see if there is a bot which could do it. See Bot requests ColinFine (talk) 14:57, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Randy Kryn regularly does en masse 'navbox-add-on' edit runs like this manually (same navbox across many pages in rapid succession one-by-one, a WP:MEATBOT of sorts), he might be willing to assist. 2601:204:C901:B740:ACFF:15E6:AFFA:1646 (talk) 19:50, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. The only tool I use is Hotcat (which I think of as more of a search engine), but adding them manually is just a matter of cut-and-paste (either the navbox code itself or the edit summary). Randy Kryn (talk) 22:30, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

 Done Randy Kryn (talk) 23:13, 10 August 2023 (UTC) p.s. but let's not make a habit of it

Randy Kryn Thank you so much! How long did it take? Jonashtand (talk) 05:45, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Jonashtand, you're welcome. Maybe just over half-an-hour. It's not a topic I'm interested in so assisted because this is the Teahouse where we're supposed to be helpful (which is why I don't drink tea!). Good to meet you, and thanks for your work here. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:18, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Prison Justice Day Info

There is a small misrepresentation of the 'Facts' in the description of what occurred during the creation of 'Prison Justice Day' in 1975, in Millhaven Maximum Security Prison. This is the real story: ALL prisoners joined the work strike initially. Eventually (a couple of weeks later) a large Committee of 26 men were chosen from around the Institution to represent the Inmate body. From that group, 5 men were chosen to actually attend a meeting with Warden Nikolas Karos and his staff, and to then represent the prion population. During that meeting, the concessions were reached that had been mandated upon by the 26 man group. The Warden and his staff finally agreed to these concessions in a heated meeting. Thus it was agreed to end the strike. Subsequently a rogue group of inmates changed their minds and refused to end the strike - even though they had agreed to the terms initially, and had sent the 5 men with said instructions. Since the mandate of the '26' had been achieved, and word given to 'end the strike', and to see if these concessions would actually be followed by the prison staff, one of the '5' decided to keep his word and go back to work. 16 other men followed that lead, and several days later the entire prison did so as well. A man named Alfie Kaltenbach was prime amongst the instigators to refuse to resolve the situation - even though they had given their word to do so. They simply wanted chaos to ensue, and refuse any negotiations. These are the true facts from one of the 5 man group to attend that meeting. 216.232.254.54 (talk) 15:29, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi IP editor, Welcome to the Teahouse!

Unfortunately, Wikipedia relies on published sources to verify statements, please see: Wikipedia:Verifiability. If you have some reliable, independent sources that back up these claims please do list them here, or on the article Talk Page, or make the edits yourself.

We can't take word of mouth or personal experience, as that would be what we class as Wikipedia:Original research and is not allowed on Wikipedia. Qcne (talk) 15:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello! Wikipedia is a tertiary source, which means we base our content on published secondary sources like newspapers. This unfortunately means that we cannot accept original research, which would include your testimony. My suggestion would be to reach out to journalists or historians to have them write to correct the historical record. Once they have done so, we will be able to correct the article here, but we have to wait for that. Once there are secondary sources, I'd recommend posting to the article talk page to request the change. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Prisoners' Justice Day. The talk page is at Talk:Prisoners' Justice Day.- 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

How do anons have the ability to revert edits?

I'm curious as to how an anon can revert edits? Without registering as I can't see one when I am an anon sometime? DragonofBatley (talk) 15:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

DragonofBatley When people who do not have Wikipedia accounts edit articles or comment at Teahouse or article or editor Talk pages, they are identified by IP addresses. David notMD (talk) 15:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

i get that but how do anons have the ability to revert edits? DragonofBatley (talk) 15:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

If by "anons" you mean people without an account, they have the same rights to add, delete and revert as accounts (unless an article is protected). David notMD (talk) 15:48, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @DragonofBatley, Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, so our culture is to be as permissive as possible with editing rights, which includes the ability to revert. If someone makes a bad revert, others can always come along to correct it later. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:49, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@DragonofBatley, IP editors can just use the Undo button. Do you not see that button when you're not logged in? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:57, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

You might be interested to read Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Prohibit_anonymous_users_from_editing. Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:55, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@DragonofBatley: You are using the mobile version. It's easy for anons to revert in the desktop version. See Help:Reverting. You can switch on "Desktop" at the bottom of mobile pages. Most editors use the desktop version. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:32, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks all for your replies, learnt something new today thanks 👍 DragonofBatley (talk) 18:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Bulk changing text

In light of Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Abbreviations#RFC on the use of acronym "XSXS" to stand for "Xbox Series X/S" across a wide range of articles in tables and templates I'd like to look at bulk changing the text, possibly to "Xbox Series X/S". What would be a good way to do that with semi-automation where I just have to review each edit and certify it is good? I have read WP:ASSISTED and understand that since this will affect a large number of pages I may need to get approval at WP:BRFA. —DIYeditor (talk) 15:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@DIYeditor, do you know how many pages will be affected? If it's less than (very roughly) a thousand or so, then using WP:AWB with find-and-replace is probably your best bet. If it's more than that, you might look into creating an AWB bot that can run in the background so that you won't have to click save a million times. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:57, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Sdkb Last I heard it was over a thousand pages, maybe several thousand. Is there a quick way I can see how many instances of "XSXS" occur?

I also would like to manually review each to make sure it is actually a gaming-related page, although I suppose that could be automated completely as well. —DIYeditor (talk) 17:31, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@DIYeditor, a search for it currently returns under 300 results. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Is TMZ reliable

TMZ say Johnny Hardwick has died but it is the only source (i can find) which says this. Does this constitute an edit on Wikipedia?

https://www.tmz.com/2023/08/10/king-of-the-hill-dale-johnny-hardwick-voice-actor-dead-dies/#:~:text=8%2F10%2F2023%208%3A,no%20foul%20play%20is%20suspected. TenToe (talk) 15:59, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@TenToe, per WP:TMZ, I would say you need to find a much better source. TMZ does not seem to be sufficient in this situation. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Ok in that case, should the edits other people have made be undone? TenToe (talk) 16:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@TenToe, I recommend starting a discussion on the talk page and pinging the other editors involved (except the IPs, obviously). 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Titles

How do make titles for your Wikipedia page? Girly Fungi (talk) 16:07, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Girly Fungi, welcome to the Teahouse. Can you explain your question a bit more? Wikipedia pages get titles more or less automatically. Are you asking how to change a title? How to style a title (with italics, for example)? And are you talking about user pages, such as your user page at User:Girly Fungi, or articles, or something else? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I want to know how to change my Wikipedia user page. Girly Fungi (talk) 18:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Girly Fungi, the only way to change the title of your user page is to ask for your account to be renamed (see WP:CHU for instructions). User pages reflect the username of the account. They are not articles, if that's what you're thinking, nor a place to draft articles. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 20:25, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

But how do I change my name? And who do I have to ask? So If I change my name to the topic I'm working on, that's what the name will be called? Girly Fungi (talk) 20:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Girly Fungi, the instructions are at WP:CHU, as I linked above. But your username has no relation to the name of articles you create. When you create a draft (per the instructions at Help:YFA) you give the draft a name. Any name you choose. Draft:Kayla Miller, for instance, since that's who you seem to be interested in. If the draft eventually becomes an article, that is the name it will have - Kayla Miller. The name of your account is an entirely separate thing. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:23, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

If you follow the procedure outlined at Wikipedia:Your First Article you will be asked to enter the article title at the appropriate point. However, I strongly suggest you become more acquainted with Wikipedia editing before doing so. Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I can understand what I'm doing now that I checked the link you left. Girly Fungi (talk) 18:00, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Rendering issue in the article for the Stomach. Where to report?

In the "Other Animals" section in Stomach, there is diagram who's labels overlap with the 'Tools' section if you have it pinned as a sidebar. (I believe this is the default?) Where should I report this issue? I didn't want to put it in Stomach's talk page as it seems like an issue with the new Vector theme. Gallium314 (talk) 16:58, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Gallium314. I suggest Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Cullen328 (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Gallium314 The image was allocated a fixed width of 650 pixels. I've changed this to a percentage, which should render better on the page. I'm not keen on the large key text and still small image, but it's better than before, and I'm afraid I don't have the time to investigate how better to present this data. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:37, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

How to publish an article

Hello,

I am Trudy Hall. I'd like to add a page with a biography of myself so that I may find work more easily. Is there someone I can partner with to do so? Thank you. Aquasloane (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm sorry but that is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Please see WP:AUTO for more information. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Aquasloane, welcome to the Teahouse. The first and most important question here is: are you notable? Wikipedia has a very specific definition of that term. Our criteria for artists is laid out at WP:ARTIST. If you think you meet one or more of those criteria, and if you have reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage of you on which to base an article (see WP:42), then an article on you may be possible. If not, it's best to abandon the attempt right now. You may also want to read WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 17:18, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

It sounds like what you want to do would be better accomplished with a personal website or social media accounts. 331dot (talk) 17:21, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Aquasloane. You may want to read Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. If you had a wikipedia article published about yourself, that article wouldn't belong to you, and anyone with a reliable source could add information – even on topics of your life you would prefer not to have publicized. It would be better to start your own website, or a blog, so you can control the content being published. Karenthewriter (talk) 17:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

How to install/activate an edit notice?

I came across the article List of Major League Baseball career home run leaders and found the edit notice Template:Editnotices/Page/List of Major League Baseball career home run leaders when attempting to edit, but couldn’t find it in the source code. (I added the template to the sandbox to test and found it renders as a template that displays in reading mode, but not as an edit notice). I find it to be a very useful edit notice for sports stats articles and so I’d like to install/activate it onto other similar pages, how can I go about doing this? 2601:204:C901:B740:9146:F54E:CBFD:868E (talk) 17:44, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Editnotice has information on this feature. I am not sure why it didn't work in your sandbox, but only certain groups such as admins can add the notices to articles. RudolfRed (talk) 18:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

It didn't work in the sandbox because an edit notice is a separate page, not a template posted in the text of the page it refers to. For example, the edit notice for this page is Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia:Teahouse; it is not something posted in the text of this page itself. JBW (talk) 19:19, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Create a company page

How i can create a company page for WhyDonate 137.59.68.24 (talk) 18:29, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse IP user. Please read the decline notice on the draft you submitted and follow the instructions. You failed to include any references whatsoever, so we have no evidence to show that it meets our Notability Criteria for Businesses. If you can't demonstrate that, then there's no chance of getting an article on Wikipedia.

Are you being paid to do this work? The style of your writing (full of hyperbole and typical marketing speak) suggests strongly that you either work for the organisation, or are being paid to write an article for them. If so you have a clear Conflict of Interest and should register for a free Wikipedia account and declare your connection to the business on your userpage. If being paid, please follow WP:PAID for our obligatory declaration requirements. Editors failing to declare paid editing may be blocked. I hope you find this guidance helpful. Nick Moyes (talk) 18:42, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Question about censorship

Moved to Talk:Dnepropetrovsk maniacs § Censorship of the image

Hello!

I recently uploaded a new version of File:Sayenko suprunyuck.jpg (WARNING: GRAPHIC), which was previously censored, but I found and uploaded a new uncensored version because we are not censored.

However, a while after, User:Ianmacm reverted the upload with no explanation.

In my opinion, the file in perfectly in scope and complies with WP:NFCC.

I also recently suggested to move it away from the lead section per WP:SHOCK on their talk page.

Is there something I'm missing here? Is the any rule against this?

Cheers, --QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 19:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

As I said just now at User talk:Ianmacm, the purpose of this image is to show what Sayenko and Suprunyuk look like, not to show what a dead cat looks like. It isn't even the same image with the pixellation removed, it is a completely different image with the uncensored dead cat right in the middle. I am well aware of WP:NOTCENSORED but this has not improved the article at all.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:38, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Multiple Independent Sources are . . . ?

I just requested undeletion of my draft for a page on the "Ensoniq SDP-1", a musical keyboard sold by Ensoniq during the 1980s. It wasn't allowed out of draft status because I didn't have "multiple published sources that are in-depth, reliable, secondary, and independent." I appreciate the need for this, but I'm a little bit perplexed as to how to move forward. I mean, I am sitting next to an SDP-1 right now; it was a real product manufactured by the company and sold in some reasonably commercial quantity. The reason I wrote the Wikipedia article in the first place is because there is almost no online information about it anywhere. I have only been able to find passing references and expired auction/sales descriptions. Do I need to take photos of the owner's manual and post them somewhere? Or is that still not independent, or not secondary? Do I need to go to my local library and start trying to locate reviews of this product in print magazines? Or should I conclude from the lack of available references that I probably have the last one still functioning in the world and nobody else cares, so I shouldn't waste space in Wikipedia even documenting it? That's not intended as a snarky comment; I know Wikipedia isn't supposed to contain everything in the world. I know there was a review in Keyboard magazine, because that's what made me buy it in the first place. Snarke (talk) 20:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Snarke, welcome to the Teahouse!

Sorry to say but if you can't find any reliable secondary references then the keyboard probably does not qualify for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate database of information: the only purpose of an article is to summarise what independent, reliable, third party sources say about a topic. No sources? No article.

We do have an Ensoniq article but I note a load of the product articles linked from it also are not great when it comes to sources. The notability guidelines have tightened up since Wikipedia started so it's likely they were either created when the guidelines were more lax, or no one has gotten around to tidying them up. I don't think they'd pass as an article if they were made these days.

Maybe you could work on a project of merging all of Ensoniq's products into the main article, and concising them down to the facts and any significant coverage found? Qcne (talk) 20:57, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I will also note though, that I hate to see well researched information lost especially for products made pre-internet, so perhaps you could Wikipedia:REFUND your draft in order to grab a copy of its contents, then upload it to an off-Wikipedia website? Perhaps there are keyboard-related Wikias that you could add it to, where it wouldn't need to pass our notification thresholds. Qcne (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Bringing summaries of the products into the main article seems reasonable. I did, after posting my comment above, find a couple of reviews that had escaped me the first time I researched this. I'll probably try resubmitting it using those references, and if it's rejected a 2nd time, I can move that information to my own web site and link to it from the main article. Snarke (talk) 22:13, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Snarke: You might try looking for someone with access to LexisNexis or some other database that might include musical instrument reviews. I have access to newspapers.com but I didn't expect to find anything, and indeed, all I found were classified ads mentioning "Ensoniq SDP-1". ~Anachronist (talk) 22:42, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I discovered "muzines.co.uk" has OCR'ed and indexed a number of music journals from the era, and three of them had reviewed the SDP-1. I also found somebody who'd indexed all of Keyboard magazine's reviews, so I could at least document that reference, although without being able to read it, I can't cite it. And yet another somebody has converted the original manual to PDF, so I can even link to that. I've now got five sources, all unrelated. That seemed good enough to me to warrant re-submitting it. Hopefully I'm not wasting anybody's time. :) Snarke (talk) 00:46, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Submitting Content

I submitted an article roughly 8 months ago. It did not pass review for a number of reasons including the lack of citations or footnotes. I have redrafted the article in its entirety with the inclusion of footnotes. How do I now submit the mew article with the footnotes included in the manner of footnotes (as they appear in my revised article)? Artecollectic (talk) 21:28, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Artecollectic, welcome to the Teahouse. Are you referring to User:Artecollectic/sandbox? You have already submitted it for review. Unfortunately you've used no inline citations at all, and since this is a biography of a living person, where such citations are even more important, I'm afraid your draft will simply be declined again. Have you reviewed Help:Referencing for beginners? 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:36, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I see it was declined just as I posted the reply above. And tagged as a copyright violation. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Artecollectic, please read Help:Referencing for beginners. It explains how to cites sources. Maproom (talk) 21:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Artecollectic I have deleted and revdel-ed the copyright violation you pasted into this surprisingly waffly draft article. It is, to be totally frank with you, just full of what my museum colleagues used to term "art bollocks". This is an encyclopaedia, not an art gallery full of arty-farty waffle-words.

My recommendation to you is to find some reliably published sources and write content based upon those sources. The following example of hyperbolic content means your article stands absolutely zero % chance of ever becoming an article: "Alexander’s hunger for finding a way to first learn and then express his creative spirit was so big and demanding that being at St. Martin’s was simply not enough. " I suggest you delete everything and start again by finding proper sources which independently talk about this person and use inline citations (as recommended above) to support every single statement about this living person. Our criteria for notable artists can also be found at WP:NARTIST. If you know this person in any way, you have a conflict of interest, and must follow guidance given at WP:COI. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:06, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Aside from the major eructations ably described by Nick Moyes above, consider the minor ones. I quote:

• "the renowned art writer and critic, Edward Lucie-Smith,"
• "the renowned landscape architect, Dame Sylvia Crowe,"
• "the renowned scientist and holographer, Dr. Hariharan,"

Suggestions:

• "the art writer and critic Edward Lucie-Smith"
• "the landscape architect Sylvia Crowe"

(Hariharan's renown hasn't reached me.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:20, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

OP has been indef-blocked for copyvio. ~Anachronist (talk) 14:39, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

How to Know Notable Sources

I noticed some sources are termed not from credible platform. Is there a link I can use as refrence to know exactly the major sources/ reference Wikipedia accept? 105.112.189.111 (talk) 21:49, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Welcome, IP editor. I suspect that Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources would be helpful for you to check out. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:54, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Just to clarify something that Nick Moyes stated which is somewhat misleading, Wikipedia does not maintain a list of acceptable (or unacceptable) sources. When a specific source has been discussed in Wikipedia discussion forums several times, it may be added to the list Nick showed you, but please note that most sources have never been discussed on Wikipedia in any extensive sense, so most sources aren't going to appear on that page. The correct page Nick Moyes should have referred you to is Wikipedia:Reliable sources, which gives editors a framework for evaluating potential sources for their appropriate for use in Wikipedia. It is entirely impractical, given the likely billions of books, videos, audio files, websites, magazines, journals, news papers, and other odds and ends, that exist in the world, that anyone will have gone through and checked all of them, approving or disapproving of each. Instead, it is expected that any Wikipedia editor is competent enough to apply the principles explained at Wikipedia:Reliable sources to any source you come across. In simplest terms, read the rules at Wikipedia:Reliable sources, apply those rules in good faith, and decide whether any particular source you are looking at is good or not. If you have a source you are unsure about, OR if you and someone else disagree on how to assess the reliability of a particular source, Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard is a good place to get some attention to your issue. --Jayron32 16:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

That's fair clarification, Jayron. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:50, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Regarding creating an article

I want to make my own article on Wikipedia, but I don't know were to look. Could you please help me? Enterthemood (talk) 22:05, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Enterthemood. What is the topic you want to create an article about in this encyclopaedia, and what properly published sources would you base it upon? You cannot just write content based upon what you happen to know without basing it on verifiable sources. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:10, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

I want to make my own article on Wikipedia, but I don't know were to look. Could you please help me? Enterthemood (talk) 22:48, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Enterthemood You asked this identical question less than an hour ago. I'm not wasting my time repeating myself. Please respond to my questions three threads above this one. Then we can assist you. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:25, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

General advice is put in weeks to months improving existing articles before attempting to create an article. Also, no one 'owns' articles; once created, everyone else can edit the article. If you still intend to create an article, see WP:YFA for how to create and submit a draft. David notMD (talk) 11:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

DYK Page - Edit v. Edit Source

Does the DYK page has “edit” (visual) besides “edit source”?  Template talk:Did you know How do I reply to comments for those DKY nomination articles under review? I clicked “reply” to a reviewer's comment, but the message said I have to edit the entire page which appears to have “edit source” mode only. Thank you. Path2space (talk) 22:20, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Path2space Just as here at the Teahouse, most (if not all) Talk Pages require you to use WP:Source Editor when replying. It's not too difficult to master (it's far less so than the complex DYK instructions!!!) so what is the particular issue you are concerned about? Nick Moyes (talk) 23:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Nick, thanks for responding. Good to know I need to master the editing by source. I will look up WP: Source Editor. Thank you. Path2space (talk) 17:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Meaning of "P" in medical papers

A medical paper will often conclude that their study has "p < 0.05". I assume it's "probability" and the likely hood of a erroneous result. I was attempting to find an article on this, but was unsuccessful. Any hints? Perhaps P (disambiguation) should have an entry? I did find this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5665734/ - What the P values really tell us. Thank you Adakiko (talk) 22:24, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Adakiko: I think you are looking for P-value, which is on the disambiguation page. RudolfRed (talk) 22:27, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: Thanks! I was looking in the science subsection. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 22:43, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Insects nutrition

Since most of the world eat insects and other arthropods I want to suggest a section for nutrition for any of the arthropods (from insects like grasshoppers, etc to cheliserata like scorpions, and also, crabs). Also we can add nutritions for marine animals like octopuses, etc. Aminabzz (talk) 22:59, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

@Aminabzz Welcome to the Teahouse. No, I don't think this would be appropriate unless the species concerned is evidently already a major food source (based upon Reliable Sources), and there being serious published sources talking about the nutritional value and widespread use as a food source of any given taxon. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:20, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Aminabzz See as example Octopus as food. David notMD (talk) 11:45, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Question about copyright of NFTs

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I noticed that the lead section of BAYC uses a non-free image, however, according to a Yuga Labs spokesperson:

Yuga Labs has released IP license and commercial rights to holders of the BAYC, CryptoPunks and Meebits NFT collections. Yuga maintains the underlying copyright for the artwork.

So theoretically, somebody could release their Ape under a free license (or at least copyrighted free use) if they contacted VRT (if I'm understanding this correctly).

I don't have any NFTs or know anybody who does, and I also got banned from Reddit for reasons not relevant to this discussion, so can anybody please reach out to users on r/BoredApeYachtClub, because I think that's the best chance to reach out to BAYC owners.

Or if you are a Wikipedian with a BAYC NFT, maybe you can release it yourself. QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 00:43, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@QuickQuokka, WP:MCQ might be a better place to bring complex copyright questions (and/or you could make a post on the talk page of the article). 199.208.172.35 (talk) 13:51, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

The artwork is what we're talking about here, so if Yuga maintains the copyright for the artwork, then no, a BAYC holder couldn't do any copyright release for it. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 13:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Writ Keeper: I do believe that the aforementioned spokesperson was talking about the artwork, and how the NFT holders hold the commercial and IP rights to the associated artwork. --QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 15:52, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

In the quote you copied, it says: Yuga maintains the underlying copyright for the artwork. To use an image under a free license, the image has to be released under a free license. The IP and commercial rights don't matter. What matters is the image's copyright, and if that's held by Yuga, then an individual BAYC holder cannot release it under a compatible license, since they're not the copyright holder. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:50, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Writ Keeper: Oh, that makes sense. I'm sorry for misunderstanding that quote. I am now closing this section --QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 18:01, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

References

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Where to go for more task editing decisions

Hi, I would like to see if I could in order to task editing like and I’m not sure how to go about seeing if there is a way to do anything like this? Drishithan (talk) 00:51, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Drishithan: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Could you please be more clear with your request? I don't quite understand your question. QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 01:14, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Drishithan: Your question is unclear. If you're looking for ideas on tasks to work on, check out Wikipedia:Task_Center RudolfRed (talk) 03:12, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I’m just trying to see where I can even go to see if there is something more than what certain articles on Wikipedia with any sourcing to YouTube or a comparable platform where there might be different opinions as to find out? If there isn’t, then I would need someone to tell me where I could go to see if there is something more than what different sources have (in terms of social media reliability) with regards to diversifying even as far as search functions without. Drishithan (talk) 04:49, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Feedback on edits

Hello! I've been working on Portrait of Madame X, since the talk page indicated the need for some further contextualization. IMO the page overall still needs a lot of work, but I heavily reworked the "Reception" section and added an "Analysis" section to address the issues from the talk page. I also made some edits to "Aftermath." Since I'm new to editing Wikipedia, I'd love it if some more experienced editors could take a look and let me know what they think.

Also, is this the best place to post something like this? Or are there specific pages for article/edit feedback?

Thanks so much!!

Remainsuncertain (talk) 01:53, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Remainsuncertain, are you familiar with the different ways to cite multiple pages? I see the article uses shortened citations like "Davis, pp. 14–5." which is fine but without including a publication date it's not clear whether this points to "Strapless: John Singer Sargent and the Fall of Madame X" or "Sargent's Women". Also, some of the citations seem to be to whole books, which is difficult to verify with no page number. Rjjiii (talk) 05:31, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Remainsuncertain, Rjjiii says what I too was thinking. There are indeed different ways to cite a certain page of a book, and a certain page-span of the same book, and another page of the same book, et cetera. I recommend the combination of named references and Template:Rp, the combination being explained in Template:Rp/doc. -- Hoary (talk) 08:00, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Remainsuncertain As to your more general question, most articles have Wikipedia Projects associated with them (see their Talk Pages). You can seek feedback from other editors interested in those Projects. So in this case you might post at WT:WikiProject Visual arts, which is active (some Projects are not). The article itself currently has 91 page watchers, so you'll probably get feedback if you do something others think is wrong! Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:24, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Aaron Anthony Johnson (Jamaican Wrestler)

Good Day Teahouse, I am working on creating an article for Aaron Anthony Johnson (Jamaican Wrestler), the link to the first Draft:Aaron Anthony Johnson is here. I utilized the following references.

https://uww.org/athletes/johnson-aaron-anthony

https://cumberlandspatriots.com/sports/wrestling/roster/aaron-johnson/15201

https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latest-news/jamaica-wins-historic-bronze-medal-in-wrestling-at-cac-games/

My initial draft was rejected, I am seeking some assistance on how to mark correction to resubmit. Diwresadem (talk) 06:08, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic.. Your first link merely mentions his name. The second is merely a match roster. The third is the sort of reference we are looking for. You now need to find at least two more quality sources that provide significant coverage of this person, and summarize what they say. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shantavira (talk • contribs) 09:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect information

Dear Sir/Madam, Please I need your help about how can I make a delete some fake or incorrect information in your website. Thank you for your cooperation. Soncevo vreme (talk) 11:16, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Soncevo vreme Please see Help:Getting started, or tell us which article you are referring to and the nature of the problem.Shantavira|^{feed me} 11:37, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Soncevo vreme: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Wikipedia is an open encyclopedia, so if you see any factual inaccuracies, you can remove them yourself by clicking the "Edit" button on the top right, and changing it.

Please beware that you need to explain why you removed it in the edit summary, and you must comply with Wikipedia policies and guidelines.

But could you still please direct me to the affected article and the incorrect information?

do anything with the little information you gave me.

Also, QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 18:12, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Upper Norwood Library Hub - creation of article

Hi there! I am trying to make a page for the Upper Norwood Library hub, in order to differentiate it from the library service itself, as the charity has an interesting and important history to local residents (including myself!). The notes left on my draft suggest that the article I've written reads more like an advertisement than an independent article - please could you advise how to fix that? The issue I'm coming across is that most sources about the Hub's history are from local newspapers as it is a very small charity, so most of them are in support of it rather than entirely neutral.

Thanks! Emblundello (talk) 11:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

It's a localism.

Not necessarily encyclopedic. UncNny (talk) 11:25, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

As in the topic itself or the sources? Emblundello (talk) 11:57, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

The topic. UncNny (talk) 12:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

It would make more sense to add this as a new section to Upper Norwood Library. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:35, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Emblundello I agree with @Shantavira. (And I say that as someone originating from the Croydon area). Local newspapers are not sufficiently significant as sources to render a topic notable by Wikipedia's standards, and the differentiation between the two topics is minimal. Adding this information as an extra paragraph into an existing article makes far more sense. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:15, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Updating an image as an un-confirmed user

I noticed the wiki page for Holt Castle only has a quite outdated picture of the ruins, from before the renovations were made. I happened to be there recently and would like to replace the image with a more accurate one however I've not made enough edits to be classed as a "confirmed user", a requirement to do so. Is there perhaps an easier way to become confirmed? Or a way to submit the change to a qualified user? Gavin Platt (talk) 15:15, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Gavin Platt Hello and welcome. You are looking for Files For Upload. 331dot (talk) 15:18, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh perfect, thank you very much! Gavin Platt (talk) 16:16, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

If you took the image yourself, you should upload it to Commons; Files For Upload discusses this too. 331dot (talk) 15:19, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Is my article currently under review?

I accidentally posted an incomplete article for review on August 9. It was rightly declined. The next day I submitted the complete article, with substantial references throughout. However, when I did a Wikipedia search for the drft article's title today, I found a page with the following: "

August 10, 2023[edit source]

Removed[edit source]

• Draft:Mark Orwoll (talk) removed.

I'm not sure if my article is pending review or if, as the above notice states, it was "removed" for some reason. Can someone help me understand the status of that article? Happy to make corrections, additions, or whatever formatting necessary. Thank you! Pville123 (talk) 18:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Pville123: Yes it is submitted, see the note at the top of Draft:Mark_Orwoll. RudolfRed (talk) 19:04, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Pville123, major sections of your draft are unreferenced, violating the core content policy Verifiability. The majority of your references were written by Orwoll himself, making them worthless for establishing his notability. Providing references to fully independent reliable sources that devote significant coverage to Orwall is required. Cullen328 (talk) 19:13, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Cullen328 It seems quite probable that this is an attempt at an autobiography. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:45, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Given their userpage which I just noticed, yes, that seems likely, Nick Moyes. So, Pville123, please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. Cullen328 (talk) 19:55, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Administrator request

Hi. Could an admin please move my draft of Art Rooney Jr. over the current redirect Art Rooney Jr.? Thanks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:44, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11 As the target page is just a redirect, I think you can do the move yourself. See WP:MOVE. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: When I try I get a message of The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:51, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: You published it in Wikipedia-space, I need it to be moved to mainspace. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:59, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11 Yes, I have just moved it back! Sorry, the problem is, I think, that the target has history (actually just 2 edits). It looks as though the easiest way is to list it at WP:RM. Mike Turnbull (talk) 22:02, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull: Administrators have the power to move drafts over redirects (I've come here before for this exact task, see Jenise Spiteri), which is why I made this section titled "Administrator request." BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:03, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I didn't realize there was a section there for uncontroversial requests. I'll follow your advice and list it there. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:06, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11 It should have been possible, per WP:Moving a page#How to move a page but for that pesky second edit to the redirect. I'm one of those people who likes to try myself: even if I occasionally do it wrong! Mike Turnbull (talk) 22:08, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull So I will not be able to move my new draft over this [1] redirect myself then? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:58, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång Yes, that's my understanding. You have to find a friendly admin or use WP:RM#T (which seems fairly easy). Mike Turnbull (talk) 08:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

template warning: where is the best place to ask for help?

Hi! I'm seeking help on how to improve an article with a template warning, and ideally get it removed. I did what I could to clean up the article but could use more help from the editing community to ensure it is edited appropriately to meet BLP standards and correct the issues on the template.

Where is the best place to ask for and get help with this?

The page is bioartist / BBC 100 women Amy Karle. It was originally created during a Women in Red wiki-a-thon in 2021.

Thank you~~ ArtistWatch MuseumSurvey (talk) 21:07, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi ArtistWatch MuseumSurvey. Anyone can remove a maintenance template when they feel the reason why the template was added has been sufficiently addressed. There's a link in the template that provides more information on this. However, just as the adding of the template was mainly based on someone's personal (subjective?) assessment of relevant Wikipedia policies or guidelines, your removal of such template is also based on your assessment that the "problem" has been sufficiently addressed. So, if you do decide to remove the template, you should make sure you leave an edit summary clearly explaining why. Often, it also helps to follow up your edit with an article talk page post going into further detail why you removed the template. If someone subsequently decides to re-add it, you can then use the article talk page to engage this person or others to see what additional concerns they might have and figure out collaboratively how to resolve them. The thing you want to do here is avoid edit warring over the template since that will likely end badly for everyone involved. If you feel that removing the template is too WP:BOLD of a step for you to take at this point, you can be WP:CAUTIOUS and propose its removal first. You can check the page's history to see who added the template, and simply WP:PING them in your article talk page post to see what they might have to say about your attempts to clean things up. If they agree that the issue has been resolved, then removing the template should be non-contentious; if not, then perhaps the two of you together can figure out how to resolve things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for this info User:Marchjuly! I feel ok with making updates recommended in the template, but not to remove the template myself. I asked for editing help to improve the article on the talk page and requested that if the updates are sufficient to please remove the template. I hope some editors will be able to help. 23:56, 11 August 2023 (UTC) ArtistWatch MuseumSurvey (talk) 23:56, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

• If you look on the talk page, the editor who added the template commented there just today. Probably the thing to do is to engage with them there and see if they think the issue is resolved. (At a glance I think there are probably still some issues.) Stuff like she creates work that looks forward to a future where technology can support and enhance the human condition reads as puffery to me. And it's cited to her bio from a festival where she had an exhibition - you have to be careful when using those as sources because they're often written in a promotional tone (either by the subject themselves, or by the festival organizers, who have an incentive to promote their speakers.) They're usable as sources but I wouldn't quote one verbatim for the subject's description in the article voice like that. --Aquillion (talk) 22:03, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

  Hi User:Aquillion thank you for getting back to me on this! I removed that line and some other puffy areas. I think there are still some issues as well, but can't spot them so easily. If you have time, would you please suggest any other areas to resolve the template issue or edit directly if you are so inclined? Thank you! ArtistWatch MuseumSurvey (talk) 00:15, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I did a bit of trimming of this overly wordy and over-referenced article. David notMD (talk) 09:13, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

New articles I create are not being reviewed

Hello. A few of the new articles I have created have not been reviewed. The page Alfred Meusel has been created for months now and no review. Also newer created pages of Ludwig Turek and Stefan Morawski have yet to be reviewed. The wait for new pages to be reviewed did not take this long usually. Rahammz (talk) 22:38, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Rahammz. The New Pages Feed is experiencing a backlog right now. NPP is a volunteer service so they aren't required to review every single article or redirect that comes through. I'm sure the reviews will come if you're patient :). Asparagusus (interaction) 23:02, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

I just marked them "patrolled" but someone needs to assess them on the talk page. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:57, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Edward Hayter draft

Hello, i would have to have some help in my draft , if i could reach out to medias to get him on articles written about him and only him could he be notable? It keeps getting declined and i dont know how to improve it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Edward_Hayter Veganpurplefox (talk) 00:51, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@Veganpurplefox, pursuing media coverage is the right approach, but keep in mind that it has to be independent coverage. So if you just get a "journalist" to republish a press release, it won't count. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 05:58, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm writing to news like the guardian, the independent, BBC... also looking to find the ones who wrote articles about my other favs actors to reach more of them to hopefully someone write articles about him. I want them to cover everything so I could have enough content for wiki Veganpurplefox (talk) 11:34, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Adding Wikilink

In Nathaniel Gordon, in the bottom paragraph under the heading "Slave trading," why can't I put a Wikilink to USS Marion? Maurice Magnus (talk) 02:21, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

In that paragraph, the text "USS Marion" has paired single quotes around the word "Marion" to italicize it. Since the article title doesn't have those quotes, you can't just put brackets around the text. You can do it with a pipe, like this: [[USS Marion|USS ''Marion'']]. CodeTalker (talk) 02:43, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you; I made the edit. But I'm puzzled because the article on the USS Marion does italicize "Marion," yet, in "edit source," the first half of USS Marion does not italicize it. Maurice Magnus (talk) 02:53, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

The italics in the USS Marion article title come from some magic in the {{Infobox ship begin}} template that is used in that article. See Template:Infobox_ship_begin/Usage_guide#Title_styling. CodeTalker (talk) 03:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I am not a new editor (I've done more than 10,000), yet I realize that I will never even approach learning all these amazing secrets. Maurice Magnus (talk) 03:09, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

talk

Politics related topics 2402:4000:B281:17CC:65CF:49E0:DFE4:55D9 (talk) 09:50, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Are you looking for Index of politics articles or Category:Politics? Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:11, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Maintenance/cleanups/improvements/tools

Hi! In order not to bore you with too many details about my history I'll just give you a TL;DR: I used to be an occasional editor about a decade ago but had a long hiatus and forgot my original username and now I'm back.

I'm mainly interested in maintenance and cleanup work and I was wondering what new tools are out there to make this task easier or what pages to follow. I also don't want to jump in too quickly but would be interested in pages where discussions take place. As for vandalism this will seem as an amateur question but have things changed since 2010? I imagine there's tools out there and improved AbuseFilters that make it much easier to revert.

If anyone could direct me to some of these tools and/or pages that'd be great! Darron4 (talk) 10:29, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

P.S.: I've read a bit about page curation and wanted to clarify whether it's only for users who have been registered for 90 days and have 500 edits or whether less experienced users are also allowed to help out (albeit without the "page curation tool") Darron4 (talk) 10:39, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Darron4, and welcome back! This isn't quite maintenance, but the first thing I'd note as a chance is that verification standards have increased: new content is expected to be cited and new articles must meet notability standards in a way that wasn't as true (or as enforced) a decade ago.

Overall, I'd go to WP:TASK as a launching spot, as it'll list a bunch of pages for specific tasks you can navigate to, which will then have info about specific tools/instructions.

Page curation through WP:NPP is a more difficult task since it requires a good understanding of current notability standards, which is why it's a restricted permission. I'd spend some time at WP:AFD and such first to familiarize yourself. You have a leg up compared to most given your past experience, even if distant, but 500/30 is a very bare minimum for that permission, so if you request it too soon it might not be granted the first time.

Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 13:59, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the advice Sdkb! Darron4 (talk) 15:49, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

translating an existing article from Ukrainian to English?

Greetings: I am an academically trained musicologist, now retired. I am interested in the Ukrainian composer Григорій Ісакович Компанієць (Grigorii Isaakovich Kompaneets). One of his choral works was published in the US, and performed regularly by the Westminster Choir College Chorus for many years. Yet there are no reliable English-language sources that are readily accessible. I would like to begin an English-language page on him (or encourage another experienced contributor to do so). For this, it would be useful to use the existing page in Ukrainian, at least as a template. I would appreciate suggestions about how to proceed. Schiller67 (talk) 11:41, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@Schiller67 That's fine: please read WP:TRANSLATE for some instructions. While English sources are preferred, other languages are OK. You will need to show how the composer meets our notability guidelines, which are quite strict. You need these types of sources. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:05, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Make sure you also read WP:HOWTRANS, especially the part on attribution, which is very important! -- asilvering (talk) 20:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Looking for feedback

Hi! I am looking for a feedback about a draft of my first article. I have edited quite a bit before without creating an account. Would any one be willing to provide some guidance or tips/suggestions please? Thank you KrisJohanssen (talk) 11:42, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I assume you are speaking about Draft:Bhargav Sri Prakash. The best way to get feedback is to submit it for a review. 331dot (talk) 11:45, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@KrisJohanssen I ran citation bot to fix some of the bare URL but they still need work: see WP:CITE and {{cite web}}. In places you have WP:CITEKILL and you should cut things down to those that back up the content while meeting all of these criteria. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:01, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

You are also overlinking. You don't need to link every single instance of "vaccine" (only the first), but you do need to explain what is meant by a digital vaccine. Also you should never begin a section with a pronoun. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:05, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Bhargav Sri Prakash says a lot about "digital vaccines", without ever explaining what they are. This tends to give the impression that he's a quack. Indeed, when I look elsewhere to learn about digital vaccines, I find that they aren't vaccines at all. Maproom (talk) 12:15, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Mass-deletion discussion?

I'm a new page patroller, and I recently came across a massive glut of new articles from the beginning of August – essentially all the same – which I believe are non-notable. Namely, the articles from Norse group that start with 'S/[year]' were created by one user in an extremely short timespan, all ostensibly created via template with minimal changes between them. There are so many of these that it's not worth my time or anyone else's to hold individual deletion discussions for all of them, so I was wondering if it's possible to have a centralized discussion for deleting or keeping all of them. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 12:09, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @TheTechnician27! It's definitely possible (and encouraged). See WP:BUNDLE. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:26, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I warn you that if any of the items in the list seem at all different from each other (a bit longer, even one or two additional sources, anything), you might want to avoid bundling those ones together. A lot of the time, a bundled AfD stalemates as people argue over individual items. If they really are all the same, bundle the lot. If they're only mostly the same, my advice is to bundle the lowest-hanging fruit only, and see where it goes from there. (Don't be sneaky about this - write it into the AfD so people know what's going on and know what criteria you used to identify the most obvious deletion candidates.) -- asilvering (talk) 20:55, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Is it a spam comment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mentor_Graphics

There is a comment mentioned under title "Forever living products international." Is this relevant for this chat? Wikieditor 2027 (talk) 14:53, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

It's been removed as spam. – dudhhr ^talk _contribs (he/they) 14:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

That spammer made only one edit 14 months ago, and hasn't been heard from again. Cullen328 (talk) 05:13, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

ISSNs in citations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ISSN includes "An ISSN is particularly helpful in the following circumstances" which include "In a citation to an article that is not available online except behind a WP:PAYWALL" and "In a citation to an article that is not available online in full text". How are they helpful in those circumstances? When I've seen paywalled articles cited I've sought/created archived versions. Should I also add ISSNs? To date I've only noticed an ISSN in the citation of one Wall Street Journal article. Mcljlm (talk) 16:20, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Mcljlm! You might have more luck asking this in a place like WT:CS1. Personally, my experience is that, because ISSNs are for publications rather than for individual articles, they're much less helpful than e.g. DOIs, and they're often overused because VisualEditor's citation tool seems to like them. Basically, all you really want to have is at least one identifier in each citation. That could be a URL, or a DOI, or an OCLC, or an ISSN, but just plain text is non-preferable. And all of this only matters if you're trying to get an article's references to a featured-quality level. Hope that helps! Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:12, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I've posted my questions in WT:CS1. Mcljlm (talk) 18:45, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Why do Wikipedia project pages not have page previews?

It is my understanding that upon hovering over a link to an article, by default an excerpt of the first paragraph along with an image from the article will appear. However, for Wikipedia project pages, these do not appear. Also, "MOS:" links always show an error for me, because they redirect to project pages(?) It seems that previews are disabled for project pages. Is there any way to turn them on? LOOKSQUARE (👤️·🗨️) talk 19:40, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@LOOKSQUARE, hmm, I'm not sure about that. The documentation page is at mw:Page Previews. You could try asking at the talk page there. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:37, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

No, the page previews work only in the mainspace. However you can disable them alltogether and try the Navigation popups gadget instead. Ruslik_Zero 20:43, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I stopped using page previews years ago, and rely solely on Navigation Popups for previewing pages across (I believe)all spaces, and for quickly getting information on users' contributions and userpages, etc. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

As I understand it, Navigation popups was a community-built gadget that predated the foundation-built Page Previews. I've never tried it, since I find that Page previews works fine, and I try to keep my interface relatively close to the interface that readers see so that I don't inadvertently make changes that favor editors. If there are elements of Navigation popups that would benefit readers or casual editors, I'd suggest pushing for those to be added to Page Previews so that they can benefit everyone. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:56, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Is it OK to comment on an edit warring report?

Another user was reported at WP:AN3 for edit warring and I wanted to know whether it was OK for me to comment there. I believe that the accusation against this editor is wrong and done in bad faith; my intent is to defend the accused user and refute some of the claims against them. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:08, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

@CurryTime7-24: Yes, if you have relevant information to add to a report, to provide an administrator with additional information to help make a decision on what action to take, then you can certainly comment on it. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:52, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

You're more than welcome to comment.

(also used 134.192.8.17, 169.156.16.220, and 167.102.146.19) 50.169.82.253 (talk) 01:51, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Assumed years

In cataloguing a book/article square brackets are placed around a year when it doesn't appear but is certain/almost certain. Doing that here results in "{{cite book}}: Check date values in: |year= (help)". Is it possible to have years between square brackets? Mcljlm (talk) 23:51, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

The documentation for the date parameter of the {{cite book}} template says

For approximate year, precede with "c.", like this: date=c. 1900.

Would that work for what you want to do? CodeTalker (talk) 03:11, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

If that's the closest it will have to do but it's not ideal. Mcljlm (talk) 04:53, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

How to correct nationality pulled from a database?

 Lion13 (talk) 23:56, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

The article Igor L. Markov shows an Authority Control box at the bottom, which indicates Czech Republic as nationality. However the article strongly suggests Ukraine. There is no obvious way to fix this.

Hmmm.... The bizzare thing is that even the authority control says Kyiv (Ukraine) but the source is the Czech National Authority Database and somehow this is being displayed as the person having a Czech nationality. I wonder if that's true for other non-Czech people who happen to be in that database. I don't know how to fix this either. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:51, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

@Lion13@Anachronist the authority control pulls info from Wikidata, so you'd need to go there to correct anything. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 04:05, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

How to make times in edit summaries display in 12-hour time

I'm used to reading things in 12-hour time, and I just found out how to change timestamps to my local timezone, but is there a way that I can convert it to say "AM" or "PM"? LOOKSQUARE (👤️·🗨️) talk 00:34, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

I thought this might be in user preferences, but I don't see a setting for 12 vs 24 hour time. There is a setting for your local timezone, however, under "appearance".

Other than people in the United States who have never been in the military, the rest of the world understands 24 hour time quite well. As a US person myself, I personally don't see the need for AM/PM and I dropped using it 40 years ago. ~Anachronist (talk) 00:41, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

(i'm canadian :Þ) LOOKSQUARE (👤️·🗨️) talk 00:59, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Even better. Both formats are in common use in Canada (more so than the US) according to File:12 24 Hours World Map.svg.

That said, I do find it curious that there isn't a user setting for this. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:05, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

If you really want a quick and non-technical solution, subtract the hour by two and (most of the time) ignore the tens digit. For 22:00 and 23:00 Ive just kinda memorized as I cant really think of a fast way other then just subtracting by twelve (but that's icky and too much for my brain). ✶Mitch199811✶ 03:38, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Wikiethics

Hi, I've been on Wikipedia for quite a few months already. This may be a bit off topic for me to be asking this at the Teahouse, but I want to know how I can improve:

1. How much Wikipedia time is too much Wikipedia time? How does one balance life with Wikipedia?
2. How does one not get demotivated? Surely there must be some point in time when an editor gets bored.
3. Why do people put so much of their time improving the encyclopedia (no offense, y'all are great at what you do)?

Thanks, Tarantula^TM (speak with me) (my legacy) 05:13, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Categories and Templates

I just edited a page for Freddi Fish and Luther's Maze Madness and want to know how to add a category section and the template showing the other Humongous Entertainment games on that page. Can someone help me out? 2603:6010:8B45:FA00:D908:8865:6E43:7FDA (talk) 05:18, 13 August 2023 (UTC)