Q1: Why does this article have The in the title? Most articles don't.
A1: The name The Holocaust is common usage. Article titles follow subjects, not other articles. See also previous discussions on the question, linked in the move banner below.
Q2: The Holocaust was not only about Jews; the total death toll was more like 11+ million.
A2: As it says in the lead sentence which defines the scope of the article, the Holocaust "was the genocide of European Jews during World War II". As explained elsewhere in the lead and body, "separate Nazi persecutions killed a similar or larger number of non-Jewish civilians and POWs". As also explained in the lead and the body, "the term Holocaust is sometimes used to refer to the persecution of these other groups"; such uses of the term Holocaust constitute "significant minority views" as explained in Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy. In accordance with WP:NPOV policy, Wikipedia states the mainstream view in its own voice, while also explaining significant minority views.
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This sentence in the lead seems poorly worded and is hard to understand:
"Other Jews continued to be employed in forced labor camps where many died from starvation, abuse or exhaustion or used as test subjects in deadly medical experiments."
If I am understanding the intent of this sentence correctly, perhaps a better wording would be:
"Other Jews continued to be employed in forced labor camps where many died from starvation, abuse, exhaustion, or being used as test subjects in deadly medical experiments." Arcturus95 (talk) 08:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done I think it's reasonable to believe this is what the sentence meant. Thanks to you! NotAGenious (talk) 09:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Change "genocide" to "subjugation". Referencing the information on Wikipedia concerning the "American Bison" specifically the "subjugation of Native Americans". Reasons: The SAME and worse happened to Native Americans including pedophilia, pederasty, forced disappearances, microbiological terrorism, human experimentation, human trafficking, sexual trafficking, slander, deprivation in the forms of starvation and dehydration, murder, undeclared warfare, attacks on noncombatants, disinformation campaigns, blatant abduction, infiltration, and fraud. 173.80.7.142 (talk) 01:09, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A bit more detail
Just saying that it wasn’t just Jews who were persecuted it was also disabled people, communists, and many others 2A00:23C5:1771:3501:FD4C:24DD:7CF2:F6BB (talk) 18:14, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See the FAQ at the top of this page. Acroterion(talk) 18:50, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is contradicting itself on this actually. The article unabiguously defines the Holocaust as the genocide of Jewish people by Nazi Germany, but the term is not only used within those parameters, and the page had many references to it which seem to have been scrubbed. More importantly, the article itself does not agree with this definition at the very top where it states: "For all peoples persecuted during this era, see Holocaust victims." Additionally, the Holocaust (disambiguation) page defines it this way: "a genocide during World War II in which Nazi Germany, aided by its collaborators, systematically murdered approximately 6 million European Jews and 5 million other persecuted groups such as ethnic Poles, the Romani, homosexuals and people with disabilities." Even if the consensus is to explicitly only define the Holocaust in the way most of the article does, there should be a link at the top to an article that describes the broader genocide perpetuated by the Nazis, which is not easy to find from this page. Carthradge (talk) 01:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect numbers and definition
The holocaust was not only the mass murder of jews, but also Roma, Gays, Transgender, communists, and Slavs, and the number is around 17 million, this article is factually incorrect as per wikipedia itself
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Done I think it's reasonable to believe this is what the sentence meant. Thanks to you! NotAGenious (talk) 09:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
