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Not mentioned in the target article, did not find any reliable sources using the term. [[User:मल्ल|मल्ल]] ([[User talk:मल्ल|talk]]) 20:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:'''Delete.''' The Z, according to edit history and hinted at by the non-neutral tag, is meant to signify "Zoophilia". This was apparently made as a redirect with the excuse that the redirect [[LGBTP]] (similarly lumping pedophilia in with the LGBT) existed at the time. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2024_June_5#LGBTP That redirect just got deleted,] and unlike that one-- where the needle swung between outright deletion and retargeting-- there's no handy redirect target like [[LGBT grooming conspiracy theory]] or [[Anti-LGBT rhetoric#Conflation with pedophilia]] that it could hypothetically be retargeted to. [[User:Lunamann|𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱]] ([[User talk:Lunamann|talk]]) 20:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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====Emigration from North Korea==== |
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Revision as of 20:47, 17 June 2024
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 17, 2024.
LGBTZ
Not mentioned in the target article, did not find any reliable sources using the term. मल्ल (talk) 20:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The Z, according to edit history and hinted at by the non-neutral tag, is meant to signify "Zoophilia". This was apparently made as a redirect with the excuse that the redirect LGBTP (similarly lumping pedophilia in with the LGBT) existed at the time. That redirect just got deleted, and unlike that one-- where the needle swung between outright deletion and retargeting-- there's no handy redirect target like LGBT grooming conspiracy theory or Anti-LGBT rhetoric#Conflation with pedophilia that it could hypothetically be retargeted to. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Emigration from North Korea
- Emigration from North Korea → North Korean defectors (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This may refer to multiple topics. I propose to retarget it to Category:North Korean diaspora. GZWDer (talk) 12:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. The pages included in the category more throughly covers the topic. Ca talk to me! 12:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget, but to Korean diaspora, instead, to avoid creating an unnecessary WP:CNR. - Eureka Lott 10:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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Historic church
- Historic church → Historic church of Cúcuta (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Anyone using this term is likely looking for the general topic of historic church buildings rather than this specific church. Historic building is itself a redirect to List of heritage registers. I'm ambivalent regarding whether this redirect should also point there or just be deleted. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:25, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Don't keep as is This is a {{R from move}}, the target article was created at this title and stayed there for 7 weeks but that was back in 2006. While it will surprised nobody to learn that "historic church" appears in many, many articles it surprised me to learn that the redirect and its target are the only times it appears in the title of pages in the article namespace. I'm honestly torn between retargetting to the list of heritage registers (on the grounds that it's better to keep the revision history where we can, and that is a better target than the current one) or deleted (on the basis that it's too generic a title to be a good disambig and the heritage registers list is two steps removed from the search term so not the most helpful). I don't support keeping it as it is, but that's about the only thing I'm sure of. Thryduulf (talk) 23:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment -- History of the church exists (as a redirect to History of the Church). Historical church does not exist. Church history and Church History both exist, but as separate pages! — Godsy (TALKCONT) 19:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Thryduulf that this is too vague to be kept as is. Delete or retarget to List of oldest church buildings, which is the target of Oldest church. Jay 💬 14:42, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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The Hollies' Greatest Hits (1968 West German album)
- The Hollies' Greatest Hits (1968 West German album) → The Hollies (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I can't find anything in Enwiki about a 1968 album, here, or at The Hollies discography (which in any case would be a better target). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Hollies' Greatest, a 1968 Greatest Hits album by The Hollies that was released in Germany. Thryduulf (talk) 09:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Thryduulf - looks like that's the intended article BugGhost🪲👻 09:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Hollies' Greatest is a British album released by Parlophone. Per the edit history, the West German album was released by Hansa Records. The track listings are also different, which all but confirms these are different pressings. -- Tavix (talk) 16:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- I can't find any non–user generated sources, but I'm fairly certain that the West German album and Hollies' Greatest are in fact separate (they seem to have separate covers for one), so that is not a good retargeting option. Retargeting to the discography would be a good option if it was on there, but it's not, and I know too little about the area to properly search for sources to add it to the discography. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:48, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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GWR network
- GWR network → Great Western Railway (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Where could this possibly lead to? The original GWR (current target), the modern one, GWR (disambiguation), Great Western Railway (disambiguation). Who knows... Otherwise, it can be deleted since its too ambiguaious JuniperChill (talk) 12:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is a plausible search term that could refer to the network of multiple of the railway companies listed at Great Western Railway (disambiguation), possibly (but I don't know how likely) the network of flights operated by Aura Airlines and possibly the radio network of GWR Group. Either retargeting to the existing Great Western Railway (disambiguation) with a hatnote to one or both the other two, or a separate disambig page are the best for readers here. Thryduulf (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we should include Aura Airlines as while that is the ICAO airline code, I don't think anyone refers it to that (and also a relatively obscure airline), just as the code for Greater Anglia is officially (de jure) LE, but it's most commonly (de facto) shortened to GA instead. Maybe retarget to GWR instead? Since idk what should happen, we should wait for other users to see. JuniperChill (talk) 13:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are only two entries on the GWR page that could plausibly have networks and which do not appear on Great Western Railway (disambiguation) (the airline and the media group), but there are multiple railways that have networks which are listed on the longer-titled dab page but not at GWR. So if a separate dab page is not the chosen outcome, Great Western Railway (disambiguation) is, in my opinion, a better target than GWR. Obviously there is no need to take action before other people have had a chance to express their opinions. Thryduulf (talk) 13:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I (the nom) would Retarget to Great Western Railway (disambiguation) then. With a hatnote saying:
{{redirect|GWR network|the airline with the ICAO code|Aura Airlines|the radio network|GWR Group}}
JuniperChill (talk) 19:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are only two entries on the GWR page that could plausibly have networks and which do not appear on Great Western Railway (disambiguation) (the airline and the media group), but there are multiple railways that have networks which are listed on the longer-titled dab page but not at GWR. So if a separate dab page is not the chosen outcome, Great Western Railway (disambiguation) is, in my opinion, a better target than GWR. Obviously there is no need to take action before other people have had a chance to express their opinions. Thryduulf (talk) 13:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think we should include Aura Airlines as while that is the ICAO airline code, I don't think anyone refers it to that (and also a relatively obscure airline), just as the code for Greater Anglia is officially (de jure) LE, but it's most commonly (de facto) shortened to GA instead. Maybe retarget to GWR instead? Since idk what should happen, we should wait for other users to see. JuniperChill (talk) 13:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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- I mean we don't, but don't we *do* have See Also sections? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sure thing @Jay / @Lunamann if consensus is to retarget to Great Western Railway (disambiguation0. JuniperChill (talk) 19:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I mean we don't, but don't we *do* have See Also sections? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- @JuniperChill: We don't put hatnotes in disambiguation pages. Jay 💬 15:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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Elephant population
- Elephant population → Elephant#Status (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Procedural nomination for speedy deletion candidate, as requested at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 May 17. jp×g🗯️ 03:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Simple search term leads to a section that has detailed information about the search term. This is textbook redirect usage. Ca talk to me! 09:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Ca. Someone searching for "Elephant population" which is unquestionably something people will search Wikipedia for, will find the information at the target. Thryduulf (talk) 12:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- List of elephant species by population is a possible retarget. —Cryptic 14:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- I've added a see-also link to that page at the current target as it's relevant wherever this targets. I'm happy with either target. Thryduulf (talk) 19:05, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as a very reasonable search term. Either the current target or List of elephant species by population is acceptable. Frank Anchor 22:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of elephant species by population, as redirects to more specific pages are usually preferable to redirects to sections of more general pages. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:11, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or Retarget, Lean Keep - List of elephant species by population is in the section hatnote, which is why I'd lean towards just keeping it... but that link does provide more information than the section, so I can see the argument for just skipping straight to the point. Either way is fine by me, to be honest, and my preference for keep is VERY slight. Fieari (talk) 04:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: If it goes to the list, someone will see "populations of Proboscidean species" and could get very confused, whereas the prose and elephant pictures under the Status section are clearly relevant. Also I would add "R with possibilities" as I could see the section expanding and describing the individual populations with prose - the "notes" column in the list article is quite detailed. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 20:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've changed Proboscidean to elephant, which matches the title. -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of elephant species by population, as per Chaotic Enby. If a user is searching for elephant population, give 'em elephant population BugGhost🪲👻 17:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to List of elephant species by population per Bugghost. -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Long term, retargeting to List of elephant species by population is probably more helpful. There's currently little body text, but there probably should be more, and the only reason I see to prefer Elephant#Status at this moment is that it provides more information. The fix to that is adding information to the list article; I'd do it myself if I had any understanding of the subject, and I may tackle it anyway if nobody else does (no promises, though). Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:11, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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Tom (programming language)
- Tom (programming language) → Tom#Acronyms (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- TOM (programming language) → Tom#Acronyms (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- TOM (programming language) (disambiguation) → Tom#Acronyms (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- TOM computer language → Tom#Acronyms (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- TOM programming language → Tom#Acronyms (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Tom and List of programming languages only lists one programming language called Tom or TOM – Tom (pattern matching language) – so I suggest retarget, delete, delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget 1 and 2.
Delete 2Delete 3: per WhatamIdoing. Cos (X + Z) 20:22, 5 June 2024 (UTC) Support per nom. Daask (talk) 21:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)- Retarget 1 and 2. TOM was originally an acronym meaning To One Matching, so "TOM" was the original capitalization and should not be deleted.[1] WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- 1) Retarget, 2) Retarget, 3) Delete per WhatamIdoing. Good catch. Daask (talk) 23:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment TOM (programming language) should not be deleted. It contains the early history of the proposed target. I have added {{Copied}} to both talk pages to indicate that. I have also added the ur-redirects TOM computer language and TOM programming language to this nomination. Their fate should be considered, too—Ketil Trout (<><!) 17:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- My !vote would be to delete TOM (programming language) (disambiguation) and retarget the other four to the proposed target.—Ketil Trout (<><!) 17:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete TOM (programming language) (disambiguation). Also, move Tom (pattern matching language) to Tom (programming language), and target the other redirects there. Steel1943 (talk) 17:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete TOM (programming language) (disambiguation) and TOM computer language, Move Tom (pattern matching language) to Tom (programming language), Redirect the rest to Tom (programming language) and create TOM (computer language). I know that this is somewhat of a clusterfuck of actions, but
- Delete redirects due to TOM (programming language) (disambiguation) having consensus against redirects with parenthetical disambiguation and (disambiguation) and TOM computer language per WP:CONSISTENT with redirs such as C (computer language) and per WP:PANDORA.
- Move per Steel1943.
- Redirect the rest per above.
- Create TOM (computer language) per my reasoning for deleting TOM computer language.
- mwwv converse∫edits 16:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- WP:PANDORA should not be used; see user:Lunamann/Please, put Pandora back in the boxThat said, support these actions; save for the citing of WP:PANDORA, all of this seems correct to me. (WP:CONSISTENT can support the deletion of TOM computer language on its own.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I want to note that the last discussion on double disambiguation that I know of (Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 14#INTDABLINK of redirects from incomplete disambiguation) ended in no consensus, so unless things have changed without my knowledge and none of those redirects have been deleted since, there is not a consensus against double disambiguation. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 20:10, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
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International Networking Working Group
- International Networking Working Group → International Network Working Group (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This article, which I created, uses an incorrect title. I moved it to the correct title but the redirect is not a name ever used in sources for this topic, so it's not a plausible alternative name that could justify a redirect. No articles link here. Propose deleting it to avoid confusion or it becoming a Wikipedia reflection on the Internet Whizz40 (talk) 18:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
'Umar ibn Sahlan as-Sawi
- 'Umar ibn Sahlan as-Sawi → Zayn al-Din Omar Savaji (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I am not good at Islamic naming or there about but I can find any clue with this particular redirect. It is also a near close and unlikely when searched on web browsers. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- This might be the same person. An expert in Persian might help with https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/ابن_سهلان_ساوجی Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Here's the internal link version of that external link, fa:ابن_سهلان_ساوجی, since we can do that. Steel1943 (talk) 13:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- A good place to check for these kinds of things is OCLC. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 20:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC).
- Delete as confusing, since there's no evident connection between the redirect and its target, and we don't even know if both are the same person. CycloneYoris talk! 20:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I do not know any Arabic nor Arabic naming conventions, but the two names might refer to the same person. Encyclopædia Iranica lists him as EBN SAHLĀN SĀVAJĪ, Qāżī ZAYN-AL-DĪN ʿOMAR. The two names identify the same father and have similar first names (Omar and ʿUmar). Ca talk to me! 07:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- It isn't Arabic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- My mistake, I got tripped up by the Arabic script, which apparently Persian uses. Ca talk to me! 13:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- It isn't Arabic. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 21:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Battles of Bohorodychne and Krasnopillia
- Battles of Bohorodychne and Krasnopillia → Battle of Donbas (2022) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Editor-coined term for a since-merged series of events. Not in usage anywhere outside of Wikipedia mirrors. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 21:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Support This is not a named event nor are the events that the former article referred to independently notable. No good reason to keep this. Cinderella157 (talk) 10:23, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note that this has prior article history and is a {{R from merge}}. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep to preserve history, as content from the page continues to exist at the current target. signed, Rosguill talk 19:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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User:Arado Ar 196/Userbox/Userbox Yuri fanatic
- User:Arado Ar 196/Userbox/Userbox Yuri fanatic → Template:Userbox Yuri fanatic (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Same as Gay Communist Anime Userbox redirect Ahri Boy (talk) 17:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
User:Arado Ar 196/Userbox/Global Gay Communist Anime
- User:Arado Ar 196/Userbox/Global Gay Communist Anime → Template:User Global Gay Communist Anime (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unused user subpage Ahri Boy (talk) 17:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Magburn
- Magburn → List of generation IV Pokémon#Magmortar (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
fan speculation for its english name, on the same vein as laxbe which i nominated a little under (or was it over?) a month ago. unlike laxbe, i found a few results, but they pretty solidly established this as a fan name that was dropped in favor of its admittedly inferior official name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep if a reference to this as a fan-name is added. If it has a few results it seems to be a decently plausible search target, however niche. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
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Science Update
- Science Update → American Association for the Advancement of Science (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target subject unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 05:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Seems to be related to a website called Science Update. Their about page states that they are an "re-incarnation" of an AAAS-produced radio show of the same name. Ca talk to me! 09:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Few minutes of searching around on old newspapers in newspapers.com did not give anything substantial, though I did find a Boston Globe Issue. With the Common Sense Media source, a mention might be able to be added. Ca talk to me! 13:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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P♯
Previous target P Sharp was PRODded. No mention of anything related to P♯ in the current target. Either delete or retarget to ♯P. Nickps (talk) 13:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The redirect should have been {{Db-redirnone}}-ed after its original target was deleted ... if it weren't for a bot retargeting the redirect after the deleted article was converted to a redirect prior to being restored and deleted anyways. Steel1943 (talk) 20:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, do not retarget to ♯P. For what it's worth, I do not believe this is a likely or helpful misspelling of "♯P", given that the nominated redirect has already been proven to mean something specific, given the nominated redirect had a valid target with a title match previously. Steel1943 (talk) 12:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Retarget to #P as, at the very least, a plausible typo. Frank Anchor 10:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Changed to neutral based on analysis by Nickps below showing much more difference between P# and #P that I had previously thought. Frank Anchor 20:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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- I'm changing my !vote to delete per Steel. P♯ and ♯P are different things and P♯ and P♯ have some uses in math as well. Any potential for confusion is not worth it. Nickps (talk) 13:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
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Glory Hallelujah
- Glory Hallelujah → England Keep My Bones (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Fairly common phrase (I thought of Battle Hymn of the Republic); redirect to this relatively obscure song would likely be surprising. May merit a disambig page instead. Rusalkii (talk) 00:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per nom. There appear to be several songs with this title in addition to those songs which simply include the phrase in their lyrics. Several uses of this phrase on enwiki. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 15:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Battle Hymn of the Republic (most likely the primary topic), or disambiguate if there are other well-known songs I'm missing. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Battle Hymn of the Republic as WP:PTOPIC. Many things may use the phrase, but few have the notability or association that this one does. Fieari (talk) 04:39, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Retarget as per Fieari and Chaotic Enby. BugGhost🪲👻 16:33, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per WP:DABMENTION. Searches show that there are a bunch of other songs with this title. See Danny Brooks, Hi-Fi Revival, Darrel Petties, Rico Rodriguez discography, Polly Scattergood, West Coast vs. Wessex, and possibly others. - Eureka Lott 18:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate per the above. Cremastra (talk) 12:46, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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Druisk
This redirect is simply incorrect. It stems from a misinterpretation of a redirect in a paper encyclopedia printed over 100 years ago. Druysk is an agrotown in Vitebsk Oblast, Belarus, near Braslaw. It is situated over 200 km away from Kaunas, Lithuania. The mixup arose because the Jewish Encyclopedia (1906) contains the following entry:
- DRUISK. See Kovno.
However, this just refers to the fact that Druysk belonged to the Kovno Governorate of the Russian Empire, an administrative division which covered a fairly large area, including Braslaw and its environs. For confirmation of this fact, one may consult this 1864 map of Kovno Governorate. Druysk (Друйскъ) is in fact the easternmost labelled locality on the whole map, found within the yellow-green (i.e., primarily Orthodox) region centered around Braslaw (Браславъ).
The Jewish Encyclopedia does this with other localities as well. For example, the entries for Dusyaty (Dusetos; Russian: Дусяты Dusyaty) and Eiragoly (Ariogala; Yiddish: אייראַגאָלע Eyragole) also redirect the reader to Kovno, and the entry for Eishishki (Eišiškės) points to Wilna.
What's even more confusing is the online version of the Jewish Encyclopedia hosted on StudyLight.org, cited in the previous RfD discussion, which includes full entries for these redirect entries that just transclude the content of the redirect target, without any indication that this is what's happening. Thus, the entry for Druisk is identical to the entry for Kovno, except for the header; the same applies to Eishishki and Wilna, and so forth.
Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, I would like to solidify the argument for deletion by showing that other written sources that talk about “Druisk” are in fact referring to the city in present-day Belarus and not using it as a synonym for Kaunas.
- Cholawsky, Shalom (1998). The Jews of Bielorussia During World War II. Routledge. ISBN 9057021935.
- "Druisk" is mentioned alongside other towns in Belarus (e.g. Braslav, Glebokie, Dolhinov) and eastern Lithuania near the Belarusian border (e.g. Swienciany, Podbrodzh). None of these locations are near Kaunas.
- Petronis, Vytautas (2007). Constructing Lithuania: Ethnic Mapping in Tsarist Russia, Ca. 1800-1914. Stockholm University. ISBN 978-91-89315-78-5.
- “Druisk” is described as being on the Dvina River, in the Vitebsk province. Mostly accurate, but the author (or I) might be slightly confused. Druysk is not directly on the Dvina, which actually forms the border between the nearby towns of Druya, Belarus and Piedruja, Latvia. The Dvina is approximately 10 km from Druysk. In fact, the place-names Druya, Druysk, and Piedruja all refer to the Druya/Druyka tributary of the Dvina. In any case, nothing to do with the city of Kaunas.
- Lokotko, Aleksandr; et al. (2013). Tourist Mosaic of Belarus. Belaruskaya navuka. ISBN 978-5-457-63663-7.
By the way, in the course of researching this, I also noticed that Eiragoly → Eiguliai is probably another incorrect redirect. As mentioned above, this refers to Ariogala (here's a source to support the identification), not the Eiguliai neighborhood of Kaunas whose name is pretty different anyway. I hypothesize that the author of this redirect also created it based on the Jewish Encyclopedia, but in that case tried to make sense of it by finding a part of Kaunas with a somewhat similar name.
98.170.164.88 (talk) 07:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also notified of this discussion at the redirect creator's talk page.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 14:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Discrimination in Nova Scotia
- Discrimination in Nova Scotia → Medical professional misconduct scandals in Nova Scotia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect from the general to the specific, the redirect is a much wider topic than the target. Fram (talk) 14:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, was just about to nominate them for deletion myself. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- If I made a mistake then feel free to delete, I'm not contesting the redirect deletion. --MrHaligonian (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, nothing to do with medical misconduct scandals implied from title BugGhost🪲👻 16:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Bullying in Nova Scotia
- Bullying in Nova Scotia → Medical professional misconduct scandals in Nova Scotia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect from the general to the specific, the redirect is a much wider topic than the target. Fram (talk) 14:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- If I made a mistake then feel free to delete, I'm not contesting the redirect deletion. --MrHaligonian (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Harassment in Nova Scotia
- Harassment in Nova Scotia → Medical professional misconduct scandals in Nova Scotia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect from the general to the specific, the redirect is a much wider topic than the target. Fram (talk) 14:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- If I made a mistake then feel free to delete, I'm not contesting the redirect deletion. --MrHaligonian (talk) 14:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
S.K. Umesh (Retired SP)
- S.K. Umesh (Retired SP) → SK Umesh (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Retired SP" is not a reasonable unnecessary disambiguator. —Alalch E. 10:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
English Constitution Party
- English Constitution Party → 2022 Southend West by-election#Results (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Target has no information about this organisation Kevin McE (talk) 07:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. It has the information that it has stood in at least one UK Parliamentary election. JASpencer (talk) 07:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- And the link can only be found in other places where it has stood/is standing in an election. One learns absolutely nothing about the party, its history, its policies or its leadership by following the link: it is an apparent link to details that are not provided. JASpencer is the user who created the redirect. Kevin McE (talk) 07:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - per WP:RETURNTORED -
If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.
BugGhost🪲👻 13:19, 17 June 2024 (UTC) - Delete per BugGhost, better to keep it as a red link for an article to be written in the future. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
google.bb
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- Google.co.bb → Google Search (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Tagged by CaribDigita in May but not correctly nominated. According to him, Can be deleted, site not online.
. --MikutoH talk! 00:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Were these ever domains used by Google? If so, keep, if not, delete. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete No mention of those links in Google/DDG, and bb isn't even a valid top-level domain. Ca talk to me! 04:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment .bb is the real ccTLD for Barbados, so if these domains have existed (they don't now anyway), they must have been Google's mirrors for that country. google.ca (for Canada), google.de (for Germany) and many other parallel sites exist and follow the same pattern. Glades12 (talk) 06:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 100 metres
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- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 800 metres → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 1500 metres → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 10,000 metres → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 3000 metres steeplechase → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 800 metres → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 1500 metres → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 5000 metres → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 10,000 metres → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 3000 metres steeplechase → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 4 × 100 metres relay → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's marathon → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's 110 metres hurdles → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's high jump → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's pole vault → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's long jump → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's shot put → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's discus throw → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's hammer throw → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Men's decathlon → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Men's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's marathon → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 100 metres hurdles → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 400 metres hurdles → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's 20 kilometres walk → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's high jump → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's pole vault → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's long jump → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's triple jump → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's shot put → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's discus throw → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics – Women's hammer throw → Athletics at the 2024 Summer Olympics#Women's events (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
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Delete to encourage article creation, similar to all other individual event redirects created by a now-blocked user Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 00:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, valid article topic. Star Mississippi 01:48, 17 June 2024 (UTC)