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January 31

name the novel (children/young adult book)

name the novel (children/young adult book)

I read this great novel a couple of years back, and I want to read it again but I can't seem to remember its title, so please help me

It's a story about a young man named David (I think... i'm not too sure). It's set in modern times (as in the 21st century). david has recently moved to the city, and he is looking for a place to stay. He finds a great place, an inn owned by a single mother and a daughter (aged roughly 8-12). the mother is an artist, and she makes ceramic dragons in her own studio upstairs at the inn. the mother and the daughter make one for David as a welcoming gift. What he doesn't know (and this is the basic groundwork of the story) is that the tiny dragons are alive and sometimes come to life. He once tried to go into the studio but is shocked and burnt when he tries to turn the doorknob, as if it was heated from the inside. ...... hmmm I can't remember the rest, but david decides to write a short story as a thankyou gift to the young girl (daughter). It's about a squirrel who ventures to the city. My memory's quite blurry, but i think that the squirrel story actually comes true and one of the squirrels gets hurt and they call the wildlife care center. the female wildlife carer is named sophie (i think...), and david and sophie begin dating. Also, sometimes the mother tells a special bedtime story to her daughter about a dragon and a girl named (guineviere ?? im not sure) Later on, David begins to realize that his ceramic dragon may be alive. sometimes when david is writing and cannot think of anything, when he pictures the dragon in his mind, the dragon sometimes gives him a hint or a keyword to help him. But after a while, he begins to dislike the dragon: and the dragon, needing his master's love to survive, begins to die...

That's pretty much everything I could remember about the book. Could anyone help me remember the title of the book? Anything would be appreciated. Thanks. Johnnyboi7 (talk) 08:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

It appears to be The Fire Within (novel). Karenjc 12:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Electonicish Song

A song that sounds electronicish in canada that plays at boston pizza (in fortmcmurray) has the lyrics that goes something like

"I'm falling in love with you
I'm falling in love with you
Another night"

that's all I'm almost 100% sure of; I could be "Another night out" (regarding the last line). If it is any help, one of the songs that I asked when I mentioned it played around 4:00 pm and was electronic, that song was "The Fear" by Lily Allen.96.53.149.117 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 09:47, 31 January 2009 (UTC).

An Icelandic movie

I'm looking for an Icelandic movie, The movie is about an Japanese man that goes to Iceland in an vacation, He meet's an woman who gives him an Citroen DS, and the car get's stolen by Hitch Hikers, he gets lost and I don't remember any more,

All help will greatly appriacited 85.220.107.229 (talk) 12:02, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Is it Cold Fever (1994) (see IMDB here)? Karenjc 12:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Thank you very much 85.220.107.229 (talk) 12:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Name the series

It must have been made within the last 30 years. It was about a wizard with a silver pendulum and children. I believe the wizard lived in a secret room behind a fireplace in large house or castle. I can't really remember any details but I'm pretty sure it was British production (poss. BBC or ITV?). I'd appreciate any tips or help! Thanks. --217.227.86.219 (talk) 13:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Catweazle? Though I don't remember a pendulum, and it's a little more than 30 years old. Karenjc 17:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

• That would be The Magician's House; it's a BBC production. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The Dark Knight

In 'The Dark Knight', when the Joker is in the interrogation room with Batman, he says 'You let five people die. Then you let Dent take your place. Even to a guy like me that's cold.". I cannot for the life of me work out who these five people are; could anyone shed any light on the matter? Thanks. 92.5.29.100 (talk) 19:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Those would be the people Joker killed, as he promised he would, unless Batman revealed his identity. Namely, Commissioner Loeb, Judge Surrillo, Patrick Harvey and Richard Dent. I'm working partly from memory and partly from the internet here, so I'm not sure about the fifth -- my first thought was "it's Gordon", because at one point Gordon plays dead, but Gordon is actually present in the interrogation scene before he hands the Joker over to Batman, so it can't be him. The Joker might be referring to Dent or Rachel, because he knows one of them will be dead. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 17:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The fifth guy might be the guy dressed as Batman in the video that the Joker sent out into the media where he announced that he would kill people every day until Batman revealed himself (you know, "Are you the real Batman?"-scene). He later hung upside down outside the mayor's window. Belisarius (talk) 17:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, right, I forgot all about him! That's the guy. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 21:01, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Law & Order: Criminal Intent

I have just started watching the old seasons and the old episodes of this show. For the first 4 or 5 seasons, it seems like the show had a great formula ... with the pairing of partners Goren and Eames. To me, it seemed that this was a very successful formula and that the show's viewing audience loved it. Then, all of the sudden -- out of the blue -- (in season 4 or 5 or so) ... they start featuring a second team of partners (Chris Noth and Annabelle Sciorra) ... such that episodes alternated between Goren/Eames and Noth/Sciorra. The effect being that the number of Goren/Eames episodes were cut in half, as they did not appear at all in the "alternate" weeks/episodes. So, I am just curious ... why on earth did the TV producers (or whoever) change what was such a successful formula? It makes no sense and I wonder if I am missing something. To be honest, whenever I tune into an episode, and I see that it is not a Goren/Eames episode, I feel let down and disappointed. I am sure I am not the only one who felt this way. Does anyone know what happened? Any insights? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:35, 31 January 2009 (UTC))

Other shows have rotating main characters, who seem to mysteriously disappear for a month at a time, then turn up again and carry on as if they'd never been away. The Bill is like this: Jack Meadows, Dale Smith, Gina Gold, Sam Nixon, Grace Dasari, Mickey Webb, John Heaton, Neil Manson and others all take their turns in disappearing from episodes, and then reappearing in later ones. -- JackofOz (talk) 01:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I can think of three reasons:

1) They think viewers might be getting bored with the old cast, so they bring in new people, hoping they will go over big. Unfortunately, many shows jump the shark when they do this, such as when Oliver was added to the Brady Bunch or Scrappy Doo to Scooby Doo.

2) The original actors have scheduling issues with other jobs or their families, and can't work full-time any more. So, it's either provide them a way to work part-time, or let them go altogether.

3) They are trying to develop a spin-off, and want to build a following for the characters on this show before they send them out on their own (Law and Order: Meter Maids Gone Wild ?). StuRat (talk) 02:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

I can't find anything to verify it, but from what I remember, Vincent D'Onofrio was having health problems at one point, and he needed to take a break from the show for a while. AnyPerson (talk) 04:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, our article on D'Onofrio does mention that he was hospitalized for exhaustion while making the show. It includes a reference, though I didn't check it to see if it's still good. Dismas|^(talk) 05:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

OK ... thanks for all of the input ... much appreciated ... (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:33, 4 February 2009 (UTC))

February 1

NFL scheduling formula 1970-1975

Between the time of realignment, and the 1976 expansion, the NFL played a 14-game season, with 5 teams in one division and 4 in the others within the conferences. (3 divisions in each conference.)

I know the scheduling format post 1976, but I'm trying to find what they used before. It seems like it would have been very hard to do, though perhaps someone can figure it out here. Or, better yet, someone has a link stating what it was. I especially wonder how they decided on it when realignment occurred, though I guess they could have just done if in 1970 by 1969 standings.

Thanks.209.244.187.155 (talk) 00:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

www.pro-football-reference.com lists how the teams fared, and it looks like they played one team in each of the divisions in the other conference, 2 against eahc of their division foes, of course; hmmm, well, if this is for a fantasy league or something, I'd suggest you either just use the week to week schedules, inserting each person's team for a real team, or add or subtract two teams to make it loads easier. :-)Somebody or his brother (talk) 20:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks; yeah, noting the week to week results of each team and getting a schedule out of that shouldn't be too hard; the teams don't play *that* many gemas.209.244.30.221 (talk) 19:53, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Who's gonna win the Super Bowl tomorrow?

I figured you guys had some inside information, since you're running a multi-billion dollar enterprise and all.--Baseball and and and Popcorn Fanatic (talk) 02:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

What makes you think we have any better insight into future events than anyone else? We don't. Sorry. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Wait, let me look into my crystal ball...I see something shadowy...I think it'll be a football team! LOL. :-) We don't know any more than anyone else, I'm afraid. Hermione1980 02:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

If Liverpool manage to beat Chelsea in the hours preceding (not likely because of Rafa starting Lucas!) Arizona will win (just because they're both red), and if on that Sunderland beat Newcastle before that, it's even more sure, as a red and white team. It's all related. If the soon to start ODI between Australia and New Zealand will have an impact is hard to say, but I think if Australia wins, that's a good sign for Pittsburgh, no matter what happens in the following football matches. You heard it here first! — CHANDLER^#10 — 04:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone really doubt that Pittsburgh will win? Adam Bishop (talk) 16:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps time to doubt now, if my prediction is correct. New Zealand won, Newcastle and Sunderland drew while Liverpool won... I think it's Arizona's day! :P — CHANDLER^#10 — 18:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The team with the most points. I am also certain that neither team will score below zero in points. Not even the 2008 Detroit Lions could manage that.Somebody or his brother (talk) 20:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I know the answer to this one. DJ Clayworth (talk) 20:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I know! It's one of my first! Genius101^Guestbook 22:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

I was so sure I would be right, but I was within 30 seconds of being wrong. But still right! Adam Bishop (talk) 19:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

BBFC Classification exemption of Help!

I got the film Help! for Christmas, and the box indicates that it is exempt from classification. Does anybody know why this might be? Dendodge Talk^Contribs 14:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

BBFC ratings weren't introduced until 1984, according to the article, which is 19 years after Help was released. Adam Bishop (talk) 16:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Not true at all. That would imply that no film or television programme released before 1984 would require a classification from the BBFC. That is patently not the case, as can be seen from the DVDs of many old films. Midnight Cowboy, for example, was released 15 years before 1984, and yet the DVD has an 18 certificate.

More likely, Help is classed as "music" by the BBFC. As the BBFC's own website says, "works which, taken as a whole, are concerned with sport, religion or music" are usually exempt. [1] Malcolm XIV (talk) 18:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Old Black & White Movie

What I remember:

-A beautiful lady marries a man.
-They live in a mansion she inherited from a lady she once knew.

-The lights in her room keep flickering; there are strange sounds from the attic.
-Paintings in the house move around. He accuses her of moving them.

-He tells her she's crazy.
-She starts to believe him.
-It turns out she's not crazy. Her husband is systematically driving her insane.

-He is a criminal, driving her crazy so she will not figure out what he's up to.
-He's looking for jewels in the attic
-A detective shows up and saves the day.

Anyone know the title? Thanks so much in advance. 128.239.177.28 (talk) 18:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Flickering

Sounds like either Gaslight (1940 film) or Gaslight (1944 film). DuncanHill (talk) 18:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! It's the one with Ingrid Bergman. 128.239.177.28 (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Flickering

Bugger off, you filthy swine. Bugger off!

A few years ago a barman at a pub here in the UK would, at kicking-out time, switch on all the lights, prop open the doors and play, very loudly, a song that started and finished "Bugger off!” It also included “you filthy swine”.

It was played half tongue-in-cheek to encourage people to go home. I think it was sung by an Irish person or group, and the barman was Irish (Dublin, I think).

Does anyone know the song, and where I can get hold of it? I have Googled extensively but can't find it.--78.144.254.132 (talk) 18:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Searching for 'Bugger Off' on YouTube returns quite a few results of one song covered by multiple artists. Listened to a few, and it seems like one of the covers might be what you're looking for. --Onorem♠Dil 19:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Ummmm...yes. That's exactly it. Thanks Onorem! You know, I hadn't thought of searching YouTube directly. Thanks again.--78.144.254.132 (talk) 19:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Can the rest of us be told please? DuncanHill (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Here's one: nl.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtLbwjKhOg.--94.196.242.48 (talk) 03:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

First PG-13 rated film

Which was the first film to be rated PG-13 in the United States? David Pro (talk) 20:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The Flamingo Kid -- kainaw™ 20:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

That is, if you mean in order of the rating being assigned. If you mean in order of release, it's Red Dawn. --Anonymous, 00:36 UTC, February 2, 2009.

Where exactly would one find such information ... as the order in which the films were rated, released, etc. ...? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC))

You could check PG-13, which contains both movies mentioned here and more. -- kainaw™ 01:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. But, I meant where would one find that info, generally speaking? Not necessarily with these specific films mentioned. In other words ... is there some site where they list the ratings as the MPAA issues them, etc.? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC))

February 2

Steve Vai's religion

What is Steve Vai's religion, faith or lack thereof? NeonMerlin 01:33, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Not sure - his website bio says "SPIRIT & CHARITY -Throughout his career, Vai's creative impulses have been inspired by a deeply-held spiritual commitment to improving the world through his music and actions. "The most important thing in my life is trying to achieve some sort of spiritual balance because everything flows from that," explains Vai. "When I'm looking back on my life when I'm 70, I want to be proud of the contributions I've made to society, not just in terms of music, but socially too. That's what drives me these days." - there's no mention of any formal faith, so speculation would suggest a "spiritual but not religious" kind of thing. Exxolon (talk) 07:39, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy nowadays

What is Happy the dog doing these days since 7th Heaven has ended in 2007? Anyone know?72.229.135.200 (talk) 19:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

No clue, but according to a site I cannot link to because for some unknown reason it's blacklisted, but which is the first Google hit with this search, Happy was born on July 14, 1995, which would make her a good 13 years old now. For a dog, that's getting to be a pretty respectable age; from what I understand, that's pretty much when the average West Highland White Terrier tends to die of old age... So if she's still alive, she's probably down in Florida, complaining and playing bingo with all those oldsters. -- Captain Disdain (talk)

What is this melody?

A melody has been rattling around in my head for some time. I'm sure it's associated with American football, but that's all I know. It goes something like this (forgive my unorthodox notation):

              B
     A                A
                             G
 
E         E                        E

                                         C


                                                                   D
                                                            C             C
                                                      B                          B
                                               A                                                A
                                                                                        G

If anyone could tell me what this is called, my brain would be grateful. Lantzy ^talk 21:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Is that the theme from Monday Night Football. I tried to work it out on my guitar, and it came close to that. I don't know what rhythm you are going for, but that seems close. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that's it. All the You Tube videos I can find for Monday Night Football have a completely different theme. Lantzy ^talk 15:21, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if it will help, but it's worth nothing that MNF has two songs closely associated with it: Hank Williams Jr's "All My Rowdy Friends" (aka "Are You Ready for Some Football?") and "Heavy Action," an orchestral piece.Tomdobb (talk) 18:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

It's certainly neither of those. I guess it will remain a mystery. Lantzy ^talk 19:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

You will need to provide better notation. Your notation produces music that is nearly identical to the intro to the Hank Williams Jr song. -- kainaw™ 19:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It may very well also be some of the work of Sam Spence, who scored most of the classic NFL Films of the 1970's and 1980's. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:01, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for putting me onto Sam Spence. It's called Roundup and is a Spence composition. Lantzy ^talk 18:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

February 3

Sierra On-Line

Leisure Suit Larry is a continuing series even today. There were plans for a King's Quest 9 and a Space Quest 7, but both were cancelled. Were there ever plans for a Police Quest 5 or a Quest for Glory 6? JCI (talk) 01:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, technically, Police Quest 5 already exists, although it has very little in the way of connection to the original series: the SWAT games were originally billed as Police Quest: SWAT, and I believe the first game of that series was also sometimes marketed as Police Quest 5. Still, that game was a completely different type of a game and had little connection with the originals. It was made without Jim Walls, the designer of the original series, who was replaced by Daryl F. Gates, of all people. (How much actual game design he did is anyone's guess -- mine would be "not a hell of a lot" -- but certainly he had the expertise in the subject matter.) I don't think there were any serious plans for a proper sequel to the original series.

As for Quest for Glory 6, again, I'm afraid the answer is no. Storywise, the five games form a fairly solid plot that reaches a conclusion, and the series wasn't much of a success towards its end -- it was a pretty bad time for traditional adventure games. There is, however, a fan-based attempt at such a game, Hero6, which started out as an unofficial sequel but which has now apparently become an unrelated project, at least in terms of content (which, considering the copyright implications, is probably a good move on the developers' part). The odds on that project actually ever turning into a game don't seem very good, though; all told, they've been at it for about decade now, and at a glance, all they have is some three and a half-year-old concept art and a few bland screenshots of 2D scenery, so I wouldn't hold my breath -- that's a long, long way to an actual game.

Oh, but perhaps this'd better answer your question: in a chat transcript posted at their forum, published in 2005, the other designer of the series, Lori Cole responds to a question about whether there was ever any serious talk about further sequels after the fifth game with "I really want to create the Quest for Glory World as a Multiplayer environment," which doesn't really answer the question at all, but I think we can infer that there were no such plans. And should this not be obvious, you definitely shouldn't take the answer to mean that they're actually planning a multiplayer title. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 01:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Which 80's rap song is this?

I have had this song in my head for over 20 years. I don't know what is. It is a hip hop rap song. I think it is British.
The lyrics I remember include lines such as:
"I've got thousands of rhymes inside my mind, I hit the button on rico [?], they're easy to find, at the show my band pulls out the PA, all the rappers s**t their pants cos it's judgement day"
"we get paid in pounds not in dollars"
Any ideas? Ta, WS.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.233.123 (talk) 11:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Is this it [2]? Appears to be by Derek B. Lanfear's Bane | t 11:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, my apologies, I thought I had done a google search on the phrases. Me dumb. Great quick response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.101.233.123 (talk) 12:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome and no worries. As for speed, no more than coincidence. Lanfear's Bane | t 12:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Spanish song

I'm looking for an spanish song sung by a female singer, The lyrics are like this: ala vista, viendos viendos, dos ... can't remember any more sorry :( Tailsfan213 (talk) 15:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

COME on please answer me!! Tailsfan213 (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

If you're assuming that someone knows the answer, read the question, and then decided to not answer you just to ruin your day, you're probably wrong. Perhaps you could provide a little more information, like when you think the song might've come out, what genre the song is in, etc. I'm fairly sure that the lyrics you quote aren't very exact, either. None of this guarantees an answer, mind you, but it might help. Or it might not. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 08:29, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It might have been recorded in early 90s to early 2000s 217.28.177.57 (talk) 12:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

*Viendos is not a word in Spanish. You may have meant viendo, ?bien dos (which doesn't make much meaningful [semantic] sense), or viéndonos. With that ambiguity and only three other words you provided, it will be very close to impossible to identify the song. Try to play the song in your head a few times and see of any more of the lyrics come to mind.--el Aprel (^facta-_facienda) 01:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

If humans have very different taste in things, why this super extreme amount people listen to the same artist?

Has any philosopher, or another person, tried to find a answer, to this question? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.151.237 (talk) 19:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I assume you're asking... If we all have different tastes, then why do so many people sometimes enjoy the same thing? I guess it's because that thing (or artist) has qualities that many people can appreciate. Most people enjoy music in some form, so it's only natural that many people will enjoy the same type of music.91.111.67.60 (talk) 20:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Even the most popular musicians/movies/TV shows/whatever are only enjoyed by a small fraction of the total population. According to our article on the best selling albums in the world, Michael Jackson's Thriller has sold 100-109 million albums that doesn't even add up to half the US population and is a tiny percentage of the world population. Tomdobb (talk) 20:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but not everybody buys albums (even of the artists they like), and not every listener buy a cd, if my brother or my father, buy a cd there is no reason to me to buy the same cd. And when I said the same thing, i was talking about top 300 (or 400) most listened artists, since there are many many many artists in the world. I mean it would be impossible that the list of artists that most fit in the taste of most of the listeners, would fit in a only 400 artists list. If you get the numbers of artists listed in discogs and look what % those artists, 400 would be. That would be a very small % of artists (and discogs even dont list very well artists of some styles, there many metal artists left). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.151.237 (talk) 20:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

You could examine tastes in popular music before radio and advertising told people they should all like the same things. The 1920s by Kathleen Morgan Drowne and Patrick Huber. Greenwood Press, 2004. Pepso2 (talk) 21:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

The simple answer: Humans do not have hugely varied taste. Yes when you get to extremely specific things such as an individual singers/bands you might get seemingly infinite variety of what people like, but ultimately you can group musical-styles into probably a couple of hundred genres (see categories:music_genres). Across a population in the billions that's not enormous. Also given that any person is highly unlikely to only like 1 genre then you have huge scope for significant numbers of people enjoying the same tastes. I would expect that most people from the same Culture would be able to find common-ground musically in some genres, even if they have hugely different tastes. (For instance I like classical music but I also like punk, and I like some pop and some hip-hop - it wouldn't be hard to find someone that liked at least 1 of the genres I like, even if they cannot stand some of the others). 194.221.133.226 (talk) 09:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Why pontificate about something that, without some kind of scientific, controlled experiment, is unknowable? It is a good question, that is originally posed, but I think everything said in response to it should be prefaced by saying that this is just banter, or mere conjecture. Bus stop (talk) 14:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I was talking about people liking the same genre and not the same artists. I mean with so many people liking tha same artists, its like someone called almost everyone in the world to a room and showed to them 366434 paintings, and then asked to each one, what where the best paintings, and the top40 best pictures 80%-85% of those persons would fall in a only 400 painting list. That is strange and its something similar to that, that is happening with music.201.79.151.237 (talk) 16:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It is strange. I agree. It seems to me there is a "herd mentality" at work. I can only hazard a guess that there is some underlying operating principle that causes people to tend to agree with people who have already expressed a preference for some aesthetic ideal. Bus stop (talk) 17:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

• People want to belong to a group. A lot of them are afraid to be different, so they buy the same music as their 'friends' to belong without actually having the same taste. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

This is not the reason, since its 80-85% of the world listners. 80-85% are afraid of being different?? Also there is a lot of artists, that would not be so different from the most listened artists, so they would be able to listen to them and not feel different, also the would be able to listen then and listen the most listened one too.201.79.140.173 (talk) 23:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

People are more exposed to those 400 or so popular artists than any other type of music. They judge each type of music and decide which they like best from those they've heard. Casual music fans (which I believe is the majority of the population) aren't going to dig deeper into more obscure genres, they just stick to what they like, and share it with they're friends, exposing more people to that genre. I don't think its a herd mentality, I think its marketing. -- Mad031683 (talk) 23:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I have a theory that explains very well those questions, and many others related to music. Its a theory that no one think about, but if you read my ideas you will think "How I never thought about it before?". I had those ideas last year. The explanation is big (but simple) because there are many things on it.

How so many people have the same taste?
They don't have, the problem is that most of the listeners dont search new artists by themselves looking in places outside the tv, radio and mtv, so when some of the those guys find a band that they never head about, there is 99% that they found this bands on those places, or by talking with someone that found the a new band on those places. Radio, tv and MTV just show few artists (either in % of total musician of in numbers) and sub-genres, the amount of artists that those people know will be very low.
A person can only listen to a artist that exist, since there is a super huge amount of artists that they dont know and will never know since they will not get exposure in radio, tv and mtv (the only places that they look to search new bands), its like that those artists never existed. So, those bands dont "exist", making people not able to listen them, and having to choose what artist they think that are the best from the list of bands that exist (the tiny tiny TV list).
There are many people that would prefer other artists, other than coldplay, radiohead, elvis presley, madonna, black sabbath, avril lavigne, paramore, bob marley, the beatles... if they knew them. But this dont matter since they will never know those artists. I mean, how we can now that some of those persons would not like Funeral doom metal, math rock or digital hardcore if they listened?

Another question: But and the Herd Mentality? And the trends? Arent those listeners afraid of being different?
No, the problem is that the amount of artists that have exposure compared to the amount of those kind of users is very low (because of the reasons that I said before). This mean that every band that appears on the media will have few competitors since they will only have to battle for a space in people tastes with the other bands that had appeared on media. Since the amount of listeners of this kind is huge, even if only a very small % of those listeners start to like them, they will have a huge amount of listeners. And is not so difficult to them get many listeners, because as I said there is not so much competitors. Also every new band in the media will fit in the taste that some of those listeners had but never listened someone near that. So, every artist that the media choose to give exposure will get the certain amount (a huge amount) of listeners needed to appear that he only got those listerners because of herd mentalitty.

Those ideas explain things like why people think that the rock is dead or that there is no songs like the old songs, and maybe even some others questions, but those things where not the original question. Exdeathbr (talk) 00:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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There may be a small number of artists that nearly everyone likes, but there are a large number of artists that are liked only by those with suitably compatible tastes. So there's not necessarily any paradox here. Michael Hardy (talk) 00:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

February 4

any NFL players that are just 5'10?

hey are there any current NFL players that are under 6 foot tall? 5'10 or 5'11? Any QBs? What's the shortest current quarterback, and shortest ever?Troyster87 (talk) 08:44, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Shortest ever may be Doug Flutie who is 5'10". Dismas|^(talk) 08:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

If you want to believe this ad for growth supplements, Joe Theisman is barely 6' and Sonny Jurgensen is "even shorter than that". According to our own article on Eddie LeBaron, he is 5'7" and is the shortest quarterback to ever be in the ProBowl, although that statement doesn't have a source. Also, he hasn't played since the 60s, so he's not current... Google has a number of other hits for "shortest quarterback". Dismas|^(talk) 10:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Drew Brees and Troy Smith are both listed as 6 feet even, but I doubt that's actually the case. Tomdobb (talk) 13:21, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Steve Smith (Carolina Panthers), a frequent all-pro and probably one of the better wide-outs in the league is listed at 5' 9". As with nearly every pro athlete, he's probably shorter than this. If you watch Panthers games, he is about a full head shorter than most of his teammates. The top of his helmet comes up to the chin of several of his offensive linemen. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 13:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Smith's teammate DeAngelo Williams is also listed at 5'9"... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 13:35, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Hall of Famer Darrell Green was only 5'9", but is still considered one of the best defensive backs to ever play the game. He retired in 2002. --Xuxl (talk) 17:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe Darren Sproles is who you're looking for. The article goes as far as to claim he is currently shortest in the NFL at 5'6./Coffeeshivers (talk) 20:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Sinorice Moss is under 6 feet.--Iamawesome800 Talk to Me 02:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

The Simpsons episode

In which episode of The Simpsons appeared 'N Sync? David Pro (talk) 13:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

New Kids on the Blecch. Algebraist 13:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Is Michèle Rosier (French film maker) the same person as Michèle Rosier (fashion designer?)

Is Michèle Rosier, the fashion designer, journalist, founder in 1963 of the fashion brand V de V, and daughter of the journalists Pierre Lazareff (1907-1972) and Hélène Gordon-Lazareff(1909-1988), definitely the same person as the French film director and screenwriter with the same name b. 1930?

If she IS the same person, then I need to give her a separate entry of her own. If they are definitely two separate people, then I can probably leave my Michele as part of the V de V (fashion brand) entry. Thanking you very much in advance. Mabalu (talk) 13:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Don't you have that last paragraph backwards ? StuRat (talk) 13:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, probably. It IS a rather dreadfully put together paragraph... sorry about that. Anyway, I'd appreciate knowing whether the two Rosiers are one and the the same, or two different people with one name in common. Mabalu (talk) 13:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

I can't find much information about Rosiers, but it seems the two are the same person. A press release for Ah! La Libido[3] and allocine.com say (in the exact same words) that she was a journalist and clothes designer before becoming a film director. --Maltelauridsbrigge (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you star!! That's good enough for me, they MUST be the same person then. Thank you so much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mabalu (talk • contribs) 17:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

A song in a YouTube Video

What is the name of the song and artist from 2:53 to 3:12 in this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=063PEhIEnoI Tailsfan213 (talk) 14:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It's "Adelante" by Sash!. Fribbler (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Band name?

I forgot the name of a Irish, Welsh or Scotch band of around 4-5 grown men and a 15-year-old who auditioned to get in. The tend to sing slow a capella songs. I visited the article page here on Wikipedia, but I have nothing to jog my mind to whittle down the pages to search. Has anyone got an idea? - Mgm|^(talk) 20:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Is it Celtic Thunder? --LarryMac | Talk 20:08, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

• Yes, it is. Thanks for the speedy response. I'll put that in my reading pile so I won't lose the link again. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Woo hoo! I didn't have a clue, but I searched "celtic a cappella 15 audition" and one of the snippets on the second page of results led me to the name.  :-) --LarryMac | Talk 20:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Looking for a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers episode

In which Mighty Morphin Power Rangers episode made their first appearance the Z-Putty Patrollers? David Pro (talk) 23:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

The mutiny. Epidoes 1,2,3 of the second season —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.31.162.61 (talk) 01:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

February 5

A movie genre on exploration of Africa

There used to be a genre of movies, which still re-ran on TV as late as the 1960s, about Europeans exploring Africa in the time when people in Europe were ignorant of people in much of Africa and vice versa (so maybe they were set in the 19th century, I think?). Plots may have centered on the not-always-friendly relations between Europeans and "natives". I suspect if such a movie were shown on TV in the present day, its unflattering portrayal of Africans would be widely remarked upon.

Is there some name for that genre? Are there accounts of it in Wikipedia articles? Michael Hardy (talk) 02:29, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Try White_hunter#White_hunters_and_pop_culture. AnyPerson (talk) 02:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Family Feud TV Show

On the Family Feud TV show , they refer to " and the Survey Says". I would like to know how is that survey established. That is , is the audience of 100 people given the question and then put in their own answer,and then the answers are tallied, OR is the audience given a number of choices ( e.g. 20 ) from which they can choose their answer. In advance thank you for your reply. P.S. I did try to look for a email contact for Family Feud to ask this question, but found none... so I am ( like many folk) looking to Wikipedia to help me... thanks again Best regards Ralph Bianco —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.218.161 (talk) 03:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Here's a Wall Street Journal article that explains present-day Family Feud surveys are conducted via phone. The article explains the survey method is surprisingly thorough, faulting only its small sample size of 100 respondents. Although it doesn't specifically say if respondents are given multiple-choice questions, it seems unlikely: it could bias the answers and would take longer to read the enough choices over the phone to generate useful results for the game.

If you want to contact someone for a more definitive answer, Family Feud is produced by FremantleMedia North America. I found various addresses on FremantleMedia's website: their main London address on the Contact page, two US addresses by clicking on this map, and a "other enquiries" e-mail address at the bottom of this FAQ. --Bavi H (talk) 07:10, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

The biggest shortcoming on The Feud seems to be in how they group survey answers together. Say they ask them to "Name something you wear". They could lump all clothes together in one category, which might also include hats, footwear, scarves and coats, or they might not. They might also toss all cosmetics into the same category. It seems to pay for contestants to be vague. If, for example, they have "shoes" listed as an item, and you say "boots", which isn't listed, they may not give it to you. If you said "footwear", however, then they would give it to you. StuRat (talk) 21:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

On the other hand (foot?), if you say footwear to a different question, then they may ask for a more specific answer. I can't think of an example now but I have seen them require more specificity before. Dismas|^(talk) 17:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

An example would be if "shoes" and "boots" were listed as separate answers. Then they would ask for a more specific answer, just to know which one to give you. StuRat (talk) 18:10, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Old commerical with man in car singing wrong lyrics to "Pour some sugar on me"

There was an old commerical with a couple in the car. The man was singing along with the song "Pour some sugar on me" and butchering the lyrics. His wife was looking at him in amazement. Next scene is an elderly librarian reading the correct lyrics on the phone....What was this commercial about and when was it on the air? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.61.131.190 (talk) 06:07, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

My google-fu is powerful tonight. See [4]. It was a T-Mobile commercial, and the misheard line was "Pour some shook up ramen". It aired in 2003 or so. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:22, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

By the way, YouTube does have a copy. Search for "Def Leppard T-Mobile Commercial". Dismas|^(talk) 17:31, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

What was that old movie?

What was that old movie about a woman who started a café and had a spoiled daughter? Black and white, maybe 1930s or up until 1950s. The title was something like Sblabla Sblabla. Shown on TCM the other night (Europe). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.138.205.183 (talk) 20:50, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Based on your IP geolocating to Sweden, I found this schedule, from which Mildred Pierce would be my best guess. --LarryMac | Talk 21:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd second that. The daughter was not just spoiled, but the greatest bitch in the history of the world. -- JackofOz (talk) 21:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

A manueress? ;) Julia Rossi (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Who's that bassist?

I'm sitting here enjoying Frank Sinatra's A Swingin' Affair!, and I find myself wondering who the personnel in Nelson Riddle's orchestra would have been. In particular -- who is that wonderful bassist on Lonesome Road? I'll take my answer off the air, thank you. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 21:42, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I got lost in a twisty little maze of search results, all different, but I saw Joe Comfort listed as a bass player in Nelson Riddle's orchestra for several recordings. Our article on Mr. Comfort doesn't help, but that's my guess anyway. (and I'm off to check the AllMusic entries ...)--LarryMac | Talk 21:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah ha! This makes it pretty clear that it would have been odd if it were not Joe Comfort: [5]. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 22:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

February 6

Now that Brandon Lee is Six Feet Under...

In the DVD commentary for the opening title sequence of Six Feet Under, they made an interesting comment that "filming a real crow for commercial purposes is illegal in the United States". Why is that ? All I can think of is that the movie The Crow somehow has a copyright on all usage of crows on film. However, that seems to be way too broad of a copyright to be granted, IMHO. StuRat (talk) 04:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

From googling around all I can suggest is this - Crows are migratory birds and are thus subject to the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918, in this you may not "pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill [...] possess, offer for sale, sell [...] purchase, import [...] any migratory bird, any part, nest, or eggs of any such bird". If you want to film a crow for a wildlife documentary, you just get a permit to film in the area and record a crow doing what a crow does. If you want to film a crow for commercial purposes, you generally want it to do a specific thing multiple times so that you can get the shot you want. To get a crow to do what you want without catching it (illegal) and training it or getting one that someone owns (illegal) is not very viable under this treaty. I am not a lawyer etc Nanonic (talk) 05:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Can this be right? It seems ridiculous. What about Hitchcock's The Birds? Or indeed the Brandon Lee film?91.111.67.60 (talk) 15:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I found it difficult to believe myself, since crows are dead common in the US, are pests for farmers, and hardly seem deserving of such a protected status. Still, the title sequence did use another type of bird painted black, and it doesn't quite look like the common crow, so it seems like they are telling the truth. StuRat (talk) 17:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Here is a link from the Federal Wildlife Service : [6] and more can be found about halfway down the page here: [7] cheers, 10draftsdeep (talk) 17:32, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thanks. So Nanonic was right. What a mind-numbingly stupid law (it's inclusion of crows in the treaty, at any rate), especially this part: "Interestingly enough, there is a hunting season for crows in many states (an exception to the treaty). You can kill them, but you can't use them in commercial movies." StuRat (talk) 18:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Resolved

Jennifer Hudson's rendition, as well as others

I feel the Jennifer Hudson rendition of The Star-Spangled Banner should be released as a CD single, with a portion the proceeds going towards the charity she established. Is there a copy of the Brian McKnight/David Sanborn rendition, as well as the Marvin Gaye rendition of the song available anywhere?72.229.135.200 (talk) 08:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

TV Weathermen

What computer software do TV weathermen use for their maps and forecasts? If you know, are their any websites that are open to the public for download?74.202.252.56 (talk) 14:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)nicholassayshi

Let's try to narrow this down some: are you wanting meteorological software to create the forecast? That's a highly competitive field and not simply available for download. Are you wanting software to handle the blue-screen projection? Our digital compositing article has a partial list. Are you wanting software to handle the graphics and animation? There's probably some overlap with the compositing software, but it could be as simple as Adobe Flash or the like. Note that there's almost certainly an all-in-one solution out there, but such a product is likely to be quite expensive (it is marketed to professional broadcasters, after all). — Lomn 15:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Incidentally, your local weatherman isn't likely to come up with a forecast himself, but just copies it from somebody else, such as NOAA. StuRat (talk) 16:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Then why do all of the different weatherpersons in a single area come up with different forecasts? AnyPerson (talk) 23:55, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

NOAA publishes data from multiple computer models; and some weathermen may weight the data they get from those models differently. NOAA does publish forcasts, but they also make their raw data availible for meteorologists to use themselves; and as such different meteorologists may arrive at different conclusions. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:30, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Also, WeatherStar is a system that generates forecast info on local TV and cable systems. You may be interested in an emulator for home use, although it is currently unavailable. --Mdwyer (talk) 20:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

On Line Radio

Dear Sirs, I’m writing in the hope that you can assist or direct me in my Endeavour to launch an On-line radio station.

I would be grateful for any information surrounding the legalities of such a venture, and direction towards the rules and regulations concerning the same.

Respectfully Yours, Tom Drury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.120.244.136 (talk) 16:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

The big legal issue will be getting permission to play copyrighted songs, which will only be granted in exchange for royalties, in most cases. There may also be a concern that people would use your site to make illegal copies of songs. Personally, I don't see much future for online radio. People aren't likely to be willing to pay for such a service, as free radio is available both online and over the air. That leaves you with just ad revenue. However, people aren't likely to keep an ad banner displayed while they listen to the radio. So, knowing this, advertisers probably won't even pay enough to cover the royalties you would need to pay out. The only online radio I see as paying for itself is that which is bundled with an ISP, which can use part of their monthly service fees to subsidize the radio programs. Perhaps another business model is possible, where you only play songs artists agree to allow you to play for free (in order to get free publicity for themselves). You could provide a link to the artists' web sites in lieu of payment. StuRat (talk) 16:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Movie Text

I have an odd question. On movie posters and such they have really small text at the bottom with stars, director, production company, blah blah blah. Does anyone know what that font is and (if not a standard Microsoft Font) where one could find it for download? Thanks!76.120.187.80 (talk) 19:16, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't know which one they actually use. But a free font whose purpose is just as you describe is here. Fribbler (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you wonderful Fribbler! That's exactly what I was looking for!76.120.187.80 (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

maze game, optical illusion, flash games...have you been tricked by them?

I got tricked with an optocal illusion on YouTube. Have any of you gotten scared? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.58.23.100 (talk) 23:48, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

This is the Reference Desk, not a discussion forum. Yes, undoubtedly many people have been spooked by something that purports to be an optical illusion and turns out to contain a sudden scare, but if you want a lively discussion about the topic, you're probably better off in some forum better suited for that purpose. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 00:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

February 7

Choosing a wine

What wines pair well with Blind Guardian? NeonMerlin 03:22, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

• A cheap Riesling with Red Bull back. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 16:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

  When you say Red Bull, do you mean the energy drink or the malt liquor from Pabst? NeonMerlin 20:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

  Whichever is most disgusting with a cheap Riesling. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 23:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

  That's very hard to call. Algebraist 00:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Movie Posters

Why is the text at the bottom (that shows the title, stars, and director) so tall, narrow, and hard to read? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.208.176 (talk) 09:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I have never seen it authoritatively stated anywhere, but there is an obvious explanation. The relevant unions secured an agreement at some time as to the minimum size of lettering to be used for credits on posters; but then someone designing a poster and annoyed at the amount of credit information they had to put on it realized that the agreement only specified the height and not the width of the letters. And everyone else copied that. (But if this is correct, the obvious question is why the unions haven't negotiated a limit on the width of the letters too, and as to that, I have no idea.) --Anonymous, 11:18 UTC, February 7, 2009.

My friend who works in cinema poster design tells me it's a standard font called either 'Bee' or 'Bee FC'. Although I can find nothing about it online, all I can find is this. I guess there's a few versions.91.111.67.60 (talk) 20:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Similarly, there's this question (posted on Friday) that was by a different IP. Cycle~ (talk) 00:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

• Fixed your link --Anon, 06:59, Feb. 8, 2009.

And there was one back in 2006 - Wikipedia:Reference desk archive/Humanities/January 2006#Film credits on posters. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Paul Blart: Mall Cop

Is there any way to know when this film will be released on DVD? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC))

Netflix doesn't list a date for it yet. I'd guess that they won't decide on a release date until they've analyzed how it did in theaters. 23:16, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Ice hockey

In ice hockey, is it allowed for a goalie to score a goal by throwing the puck from his glove into the opposing net? Also, is scoring own-goals punishable during the course of the match by the officials if deliberate (besides angry teammates)? Kurtelacić (talk) 20:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

According to the IIHF rules for ice hockey, "No goal shall be allowed... if an attacking player deliberately kicks, throws, bats with the hands or otherwise directs the puck by any means other than his stick into the goal net." (Article 471) So that's a big no to the goalie throing the puck into the net.

As to own goals, the rules state that a goal will be allowed "if the puck has been put into the goal net in any way by a player of the defending team." (Article 470) So the penalty for an own goal is that your team has a goal scored against it. (I think any additional sanction would just be adding insult to injury.) - Eron^Talk 05:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

February 8

Yoghurt ad

There was a yoghurt ad years ago in the UK where spoons came through the letter box and opened the fridge to get at the yoghurts inside. There was a famous classical piece playing in the background that sounds a bit like bitter sweet symphony by the verve. What is the name of the classical piece? 90.210.55.111 (talk) 00:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

As Bitter Sweet Symphony says, the song contains a sample from an orchestral version of a song by the Rolling Stones, "The Last Time". Maybe that is the piece of music you are looking for? --Richardrj ^{talk email} 08:13, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Has "shuffle tv" ever been tried?

With the shuffle radio craze going with good reaction , makes me wonder if tv's ever done the same. Random tv show episodes, from all years and genres played 24/hrs a day in no particular order. For the real tv lover. So you enjoyed the Bionic Woman? Good, hope you enjoy Howdy Doody, Painting with Julia, and MASH just as well. We'd like to hype what were showing next,- but we dont know what it is! They would have a copy of every tv show ever broadcast!

Haven't heardofthis here in America, but something tells me over in Europe they've tried it. I'll bet the jolly old brits once gave it a whirl. And subjected thier citizens kneecap to retina with non stop Benny Hill, Fawlty Towers, Monty Pyton and Footballer's Wives episodes. --TinyTonyyy (talk) 02:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

No we've never had it in the UK. Sounds like a nightmare for the paperwork people. And by the way, nobody in England watches Benny Hill anymore. It is (strangely) something that is enjoyed by others. Apparently Australians watch it.91.111.108.123 (talk) 09:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Why does Israel national team plays in Europe

If Israel is in Asia? --201.254.78.136 (talk) 03:03, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Politics. An article on Israel national football team tells the story. That is, assuming you are talking about the football (US: soccer) team. --Dr Dima (talk) 03:49, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

List of Best in Show winners of the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show

If you look at the names of the winners, they are usually preceded by the abbreviation "Ch." ... what does that mean? And why do some of the winners (a very small number, perhaps 2 or 3) not have the "Ch." abbreviation before their name? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:28, 8 February 2009 (UTC))

I've seen "Ch." meaning "Champion" on a cat pedigree, so presumably the dog show meaning is the same. --Anonymous, 07:00 UTC, February 8, 2009.