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December 1

Sacred-game trainer

Where can i download a very useful & working trainer for Sacred game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashprabha007 (talk • contribs) 02:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I can't access the site from my current location due to a restrictive proxy, but I'd wager Cheat Happens would have what you are looking for, and the game is old enough that it shouldn't require a subscription to download the trainer. Gunrun (talk) 09:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Also GameCopyWorld] is pretty safe and reliable. —Akrabbim^talk 12:46, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Song called slow down

(Moved from article talk space) I think its a country song, but its called "SLOW DOWN". The song goes from a slow beat to a quick beat. Some of the lyrics in it are "ALL WORK AND NO PLAY", "NEED TO SMELL THE ROSES BEFORE I WAKE UP SIX FEET DEEP". Anybody know? TheEgg44 (talk) 10:49, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

"Slow Down" by Kevin Fowler. —Akrabbim^talk 12:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

looking for an song...

It was produced in 2001/2002 , and the lyrics are:" I'm looking through those ...... ? oooohh " , these are the only vocals in the song, and this is trance / techno song , and also largely instrumental. Probably an remix but im not sure. 217.171.212.143 (talk) 13:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

What is this joke

Recently read this joke somewhere. But failed to catch it's meaning. Read it. Can someone please tell me what the hell it means :

A championship competition is held to see who has the largest prick in the world. The theater is filled with people and the gays are screaming with excitement. Up in front sit the judges. First a Russian comes on stage. He is enormous and the applause is loud. The judges measure him and there is more applause. Next a black man comes on stage. He is huge and loud applause sounds through the theater. Then an Italian and a Japanese come forward. Both are measured and receive standing ovations. The excitement of the crowd is mounting when a dwarf suddenly appears on stage. Everyone whistles and yells for him to leave. But the dwarf raises one arm in the air and asks for silence. Then when all is quiet, he opens his fly and takes out a turtle, shouting, "Just a minute folks... this is just a crab!"

 Jon Ascton  (talk) 16:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I am still looking for a satisfatory answer to my this question

By crab he means that is merely one of his crab lice.Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:56, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

In other words, if he's got a louse the size of a turtle growing in his pubic hair, his schwantz must be proportionally larger as well. Its just a bad "big dick" joke. --Jayron32 20:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Even more significantly, is this the first joke in which a Japanese person has a large penis? Adam Bishop (talk) 21:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

. --Jayron32 21:44, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

My grandma told better dick jokes than this one. —Kevin Myers 06:50, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Where did you get this joke?174.3.102.6 (talk) 23:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Somewhere where gay people are referred to as "the gays". I don't know where that would be in this century. 86.166.148.95 (talk) 21:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Really? How would you have refereed to the homosexuals portion in a large crowd of males? APL (talk) 16:57, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

If I needed to, and I seriously doubt I would, I would refer to them as gay men. In this case, the audience is not specified as 'male', so I see no reason to assume the crowd is not diverse in terms of gender. Still, if I needed to specify that it was only the gay people who were screaming (why this should be, I don't know), I would call them 'gay people'. 86.166.148.95 (talk) 21:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be some confusion between crabs and turtles. Crabs are decapod crustaceans of the infraorder Brachyura. Turtles are reptiles of the order Testudines (the crown group of the superorder Chelonia). Bus stop (talk) 17:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

No, I think it was a turtle. Read it again and suspend your disbelief about the sizes of ... things. (I can't believe I'm in this thread, when I've sworn on the graves of all my ancestors that I will never be party to explaining a joke. But there you go.) -- JackofOz (talk) 20:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

OT, but I find the funniest part of the joke the gays screaming.174.3.102.6 (talk) 03:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

'Mimicry' as an entertainment form

In my part of the world a sort of stage show performed either by a single performer or a team is called mimicry. An instance of it is seen here. Skip the beginning to go right into the performance. It is very popular and a major item on local television. I see Mimic (entertainment) but don't think it is anything like the form I mentioned. Is there a stage performance similar to this anywhere in the world?--117.204.92.11 (talk) 17:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you thinking of Impressionist (entertainment)? —Akrabbim^talk 17:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Ska (Possibly Bad Manners) song

In football, when a team scores, they sometimes play a ska-ish song. I'm thinking it's possibly by the Bad Manners but could someone give me the name of the song? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.0.245.212 (talk) 19:02, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

You're gonna have to be a great deal more specific than that! UK? Association Football? What grounds in particular? Having said that, the one that comes to mind is Tom Hark by The Piranhas. --TammyMoet (talk) 19:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

The IP address locates to London, so it's likely to be football rather than, say, the armoured sissies' game. One ska-type song that is apparently played at certain football grounds is the Harry J Allstars' "Liquidator". Malcolm XIV (talk) 19:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

That likely developed out of its use in the film Fever Pitch (unless it was used in the film because it's used at football matches, of course). Grutness...wha? 22:13, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

It seems much more likely that the use in the film refers to the existing use at matches. A read of the articles adds to my feeling. 86.166.148.95 (talk) 21:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Or of course Papas got a brand new Pigbag by Pigbag which no-one remembers the name to. Nanonic (talk) 23:09, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Pierre Trudeau Middle Finger

I watched a 1 hour documentary on the flq. This was 2001 or something. I think it's a CBC documentary. Pierre Trudeau sticks his middle finger. I can't find the footage anywhere. Does anyone have the link or the documentary?174.3.102.6 (talk) 23:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, I can't find the specific video, but it certainly is a famous incident, so much so that Trudeau salute redirects to Finger (gesture). That article cites the specific time and location of the original Trudeau Salute, so it will give you a start on when and where to look. --Jayron32 00:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2

Looking for the name of a drummer

He's a session drummer with a very distinctive look. He's either pacific islander (Hawaiian or Samoan, etc.) or hispanic, with a shaved head, and usually a medium length, shaggy, "soul patch" style beard. He's a BIG dude, like 300 pounds or so. I've seen him at least twice on TV, both times on VH1 Classic: Once was backing Eric Clapton during Hard Rock Calling 2008, and once backing Paul McCartney on some recent tour. Besides drumming, he also sings harmony vocals. I keep seeing him all over the place, he's sort of like a 21st century Leland Sklar in that way; a guy with a very distinctive look who shows up as a backing musician all over the place. Any one know any famous Samoan drummers who work with British musicians from the 60's? --Jayron32 00:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Abe Laboriel, Jr.? Nanonic (talk) 00:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Dammit - beat me to it. Grutness...wha? 00:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

ANd that's him. Thanks a bunch! --Jayron32 00:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah ha! I knew he had something to do with Paul McCartney! And I didn't even read the entire question! Moptopstyle1 08:42, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

update on Maura Tierney

How is Maura Tierney doing with her breast cancer treatments? Has there been any updates so far?24.90.204.234 (talk) 00:34, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It says here that on "Monday", which would mean November 23, her representative "said... there was no update on the actress' brave battle with the disease." --Anonymous, corrected 15:49 UTC, December 5, 2009.

silly song -- what is it?

I have part of a song stuck in my head and cannot figure out where it came from. It sounds a bit like the theme to Josie and the Pussycats but it's about "(someone) and the warblers". It may have accompanying animation. I think they also sing it in German. Help! -- KathrynLybarger (talk) 03:26, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

schnappi? Bus stop (talk) 03:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

No but that's very cute. :) Thanks! -- KathrynLybarger (talk) 04:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I figured it out! It was a short on Cartoon Network called "Heidi and the Yodelers". Halfway through they start singing in Swiss. I didn't have any of the details right! -- Kathryn —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.140.138.201 (talk) 07:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Not all details wrong if the Swiss you mention was Swiss German. Rmhermen (talk) 16:00, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Statistics on how many people have been exposed to particular works

I'm looking for surveys and studies on what proportion of a given population have been exposed to certain famous works of fiction (of any medium). For example, I'd be very interested to know if there was a survey done which asked people whether they'd ever watched, say, The Godfather, Gone With the Wind, Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Titanic and so forth — something that would tell me that, for example, 50% have seen X, but only 20% have seen Y. Or, I'd like to know what proportion of people have ever read To Kill a Mockingbird, Finnegans Wake, Brave New World, The Great Gatsby, Moby Dick, The Lord of the Rings, or Harry Potter. Or, what proportion of people have watched a play by Shakespeare. Or, what percentage of people have watched more than one episode of The Simpsons, Star Trek, or Survivor.

I don't have any specific medium or survey population in mind — really, I'm just looking for broad overviews of the whole topic, but I don't know whether and where statistics have actually been collected. I'm mainly trying to get a general sense of how far different well-known works have actually penetrated into the public consciousness. Some works may be famous, but that doesn't mean that the average person will actually have been exposed to them — I'm looking for anything that would give me a general, big-picture sense of what works of fiction people are likely to have seen, and what they are likely not to have seen. -- 203.97.105.173 (talk) 04:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Be very careful of statistics about things like this. For example: It has been claimed that more people have seen Jesus (1979 film) than any other film in history, and that it has been viewed almost 5.6 billion times (including repeat viewings) - but the basis of this claim has been strongly criticised. Not to mention that neither I nor anyone I know has ever heard of it till now, which, for a supposedly massively-watched film, must mean something even if it is OR. -- JackofOz (talk) 07:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes it means something. It means that most of the film's viewings took place outside the affluent Western world. Hardly anyone in North America and Western Europe has seen it, but you can find millions of people in Africa and South America where it's the only movie they have ever seen. There are probably hundreds of movies that you and your friends have never heard of that are more popular than your favourite movies - most of them Bollywood movies. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I think it is still claimed that, when adjusted for inflation, Gone With the Wind is the all-time biggest money-maker. Whether that means the most viewings, might be debatable. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

According to the American Literacy Council, [1] 90% of the U.S. population from 1700 to 1930 could read and write, but now that figure has dropped to 30%. Thus, millions have never read the books you mention. Pepso2 (talk) 08:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Those figures sound highly dubious. The CIA World Factbook says the literacy rate was 99% [2] in 2003. Note that the American Literacy Council count non-English-speaking modern immigrants as illiterate (reading Spanish doesn't count as reading, who knew?), and yet they claim 90% (English?) literacy in an era when many people spoke French, or Cajun, or German, or Dutch, or Finnish or various other Languages of the United States. See also Roosevelt's comments in 1907. AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 09:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Agree, unless they changed the definition of literacy somewhere along the line. Googlemeister (talk) 17:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the answers. 203.97.105.173 (talk) 03:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Identify a piece of classical music

Could someone help me identify this piece of classical music (played by a string orchestra). I have no sound file, only my own attempt to write down the notes from memory. Hopefully they are accurate enough to identify the piece, which I think is relatively well-known.

e'₂ g#'₂ b'₁ g#'₈ a'₈ b'₄ g#'₈ a'₈ b'₄ e″₄ b'₄ b'₈ a'₈ g#'₄ f#'₈ e'₈ a'₈ b'₈ c#″₈ a'₈ g#'₈ a'₈ b'₈ g#'₈ f#'₄

Thanks in advance! decltype (talk) 13:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Found it! The keyword is BWV 1042, apparently. decltype (talk) 15:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

James Bond music on BBC UK tv Top Gear programme

What is the name of the 'James Bond' music played at the beginning of the flight of the orange balloon in Top Gear series 14 episode 3, and currently visible online through iPlayer? 89.242.106.49 (talk) 16:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

You need this detailed forum that lists all the music of top gear and says it is Capsual in Space by John Barry from You Only Live Twice meltBanana 17:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Fifteen different bits of music for one short clip - that's a lot. Those forumists must have got a lot of time on their hands to catalogue it all. 89.242.106.49 (talk) 20:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Any other UK tv channels available online apart from the BBC?

I am in the UK. Thanks. 89.242.106.49 (talk) 16:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

ITV: [3], Channel 4: [4], Channel 5: [5]. Fribbler (talk) 16:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

All of the freeview channels are available online live at tvcatchup.com (if you hold a current tv licence), sky users can use skyplayer. Nanonic (talk) 17:18, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't know if you count British Eurosport: [6] --TammyMoet (talk) 11:44, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

This site may also help[7] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pleasantman (talk • contribs) 12:28, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

December 3

I need help with the Left 4 Dead 2 baseball bat code

I'll tell my story first and then I'll ask some questions in numbered order and if you know all the answers or just a few of them or just one of them, please put a number before you answer so I'll know which question your answering and also be kind enough to explain your answer if it is an answer that needs to be explained, well, I'm gonna get Left 4 Dead 2 for Christmas and I plan to also get the baseball bat code from ebay for Christmas, but I don't have xbox live or high speed internet but I think you can join xbox live and not be hooked up to the computer cause all I'm gonna do is just put the code in to get the baseball bat and that's it cause I won't be able to play online or get DLC and the Left 4 Dead 2 game that I got has a free 48 hour trial so I plan to use that.

1.Can I join xbox live without being hooked up to the computer?

2.(if yes to #1)Can I get the baseball bat when I put the code in or do I need to be hooked up to high speed internet?

3.I read somewhere online where this kid got Left 4 Dead 2 and he had the code to get the baseball bat but everytime he tried to download it on his xbox 360 it would say it failed to download or something like that so he went over to one of his friends house and downloaded it from there but when he got back home and tried to load the code, it would say cannot find code, then he found out that the code was attached to his friends xbox 360 so my question is, will the code stick with the xbox 360 that I downloaded it on to or will it be downloaded on to my hard drive cause I plan to get the Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 xbox 360 within the next few months?

4.(if the answer to #3 is hard drive)Can I tranfer the code along with all my memory on my 20 GB hard drive to the 250 GB hard drive?

5.If you have used the baseball bat on Left 4 Dead 2, is it worth it to go through all this trouble just to get the baseball bat or do you think I should wait for another few months until I do get high speed internet and xbox live cause if your playing online with someone who has the baseball bat, him and all his friends that are playing together have access to the baseball bat too?

6.if you answered #5 saying that it's too much trouble, this question is like an alternate #4 question, can I tranfer all my memory and achievement points without losing anything?

7.my friend told me that when I do start an online xbox live account that I will lose all my memory and/or achievement points? If so tell me how I won't lose it or recover it if it gets lost or deleted.

8.to put in the code and get the baseball bat, all I have to do is enter the code at redeem code but does that require me to have xbox live or have high speed internet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.15.129 (talk) 01:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

1. You don't need to be "hooked up to the computer" (what computer?), but your Xbox does need to have an Internet connection to join Xbox Live. For most users this means you have a high-speed Internet connection via a cable modem or DSL modem, which is connected via an Ethernet cable to a router, which is connected via an Ethernet cable to your Xbox.

2. It is possible that Valve Software set it up this way, yes — call them on the phone and ask?

3. Too many details, important missing details, and too vague a question. (If you could link to the online claims then it would be easier to read.) If you are saying you don't have high-speed Internet at your house and you want to log on to Xbox Live from a friend's house and download something, then if you bring your Xbox itself (with hard disk attached) to your friend's house, log in from there, and download your DLC from there, yes, that will work - your Xbox and Microsoft don't care where you log in from. Your first act at your friend's house will probably to activate an Xbox Live account — find out how to get the 30 day free trial first.

Hey, that's the way he wrote basically, all I did was just read the way he wrote it and I don't remember the link to the site, I think it was gamespot forums, but even still, I don't know for sure if it was gamespot

4. Check this article - does it answer your question?

technically yes, but that's talking about a 120 GB hard drive, would it work for something like the 250 GB hard drive cause that's twice the space. Which one would work better, a transfer kit or if I got 2 xbox 360's, hooked them up together and switch the memory and achievement points from xbox 360 to another, I think it's called a system link, or would it only switch the memory over and not the achievement points cause I want both of them switched over

"System Link" is when you hook up several 360s to play against each other, playing games that have implemented System Link play, on an Ethernet network without having logged into Xbox Live - see this link for the how-to. It's not relevant to transferring one hard disk to another. That won't work. The transfer kit is what you need. Tempshill (talk) 05:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

7. Interesting. I think what he is worried about is that if you create a local, non-Xbox Live account on your 360 with the name "Chuckles", say, and then play for months, and then you decide to join Xbox Live, then you will not be allowed to have the name "Chuckles", because somebody out there already has that name. (You can name a non-Xbox Live profile whatever you want, including a profile that does currently exist out there on Live. You can create the account "Bill Gates" if you want.) I doubt that you will be forced to create a new profile from scratch when you try to join Live; most likely you will be told the name is a duplicate and you have to rename your account — but that wouldn't delete all your Achievements and Gamerscore. Tempshill (talk) 20:52, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

thanks, that answers question #7

Identifying a Strauss piece from a concert

Hello, RD'ers. I was skipping through television channels last night, and came upon a concert being broadcast on a PBS station. There was a fascinating piece of music being played, but since I missed the beginning of the piece, I didn't hear or see the title. (At the end, they just went into the next piece with a new title graphic.) Anyway, I looked up the name of the broadcast — It was called "Salute to Vienna," recorded in 1999, featuring the works of Johann Strauss Sr. and Johann Strauss Jr. — but the listing didn't identify the individual pieces performed. The piece in question featured one performer occassionally playing twittering bird sounds on a very tiny instrument, almost like a whistle, and another musician making cuckoo sounds on an instrument he held in two hands. Does anyone know the name of this piece? And what were those two unusual instruments? Thank you kindly? — Michael J 14:08, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Did that program feature André Rieu by any chance? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:29, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm thinking of this [8] which is a piece called Im Krapfenwald'l (in Krapfen's woods). ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:45, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

In the small forest of doughnuts? AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 12:58, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't recall seeing André Rieu there. I've seen him before, and it was a little more sedate than one of his presentations (but not too much more). — Michael J 20:37, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Im Krapfenwald'l appears to be it, thank you. That video wasn't the performance I saw, but that's definitely the piece I heard. (The one I saw had two different musicians doing the twittering and the cuckoo.) Thanks again. — Michael J 20:48, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

The instruments used were specialist whistles - a bird whistle and a cuckoo whistle. Our article Whistle briefly describes the mechanism by which the former works (it's filled with water), and there's a page here with more information and a close-up image of a bird whistle. Cuckoo whistles are made by several companies, including the famous Acme company [9]. Although often seen as toys, specialist whistles do feature in a number of serious musical compositions, and György Ligeti's Le Grand Macabre specifies a whole bunch of different ones including steamboat whistle, swanee whistle and quacking duck call, which must be great fun. Karenjc 11:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

The "cuckoo whistle" in the broadcast that I saw wasn't really a whistle at all. It was a device held in the hands that was rocked back and forth to make the sound of a cuckoo. — Michael J 20:24, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Wizard Music Video - I wish it could be Christmas everyday

has anybody else noticed the bass player in this video ? am I mistaken in thinking that it is in fact a very young Lemmy from Motorhead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.162.206.228 (talk) 19:11, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

For reference, here's the video of which you speak. See [10]. For the record, the bass player in this video is Rick Price, who I will admit does bear a passing resemblance to Lemmy Kilmister. The song in question, I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday by Wizzard, was recorded in 1973, and at that time Lemmy was playing bass for the band Hawkwind. I don't think Lemmy ever played with Wizzard. --Jayron32 20:08, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

And here is a still image of Rick Price, just to see him better. As I said, he DOES bear a passing resemblance to Lemmy, but only in that "Long Haired White Bass Player With Beard" sort of way. For comparison, here's Lemmy circa 1973: [11] Lemmy is the last male on the right, next to the chick in the facepaint. --Jayron32 20:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

December 4

Songwriting royalties

Are songwriting royalties divided equally among everyone with a writing credit for the song? Or does each writer get a certain percent based on what parts they wrote? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.238.116 (talk) 00:07, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• From what I can find, the songwriters can divide the royalties among themselves in any split they can agree on, and the applicable performing rights society will distribute the royalties according to the percentage listing on the song's registration filed with the society. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
  • That's exactly right. When performing rights associations are notified of new songs by songwriters, one of the things which is sent is a percentage allocation to each writer. In my case, for an example, some of the songs I receive royalties for from APRA I get 50% and another writer also gets 50%, in others I get 25% and another writer gets 75%. In some, I get 62.5%, three other writers receive 12.5% each (in the latter case, it is because the entire band - four of us - wrote the music, but I wrote the lyrics). Writers are free to decide on a split entirely among themselves. Grutness...wha? 06:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
    • As an example, the band Rush splits ALL band proceeds exactly into thirds; each band member gets the same amount of money for everything, even though Neal Peart writes most of the lyrics AND the drum parts, while the other two members write the guitar, bass and keyboard parts. I have seen interviews where they attribute this long-standing practice to the personal harmony that has kept them together for nearly 40 years. On the other hand, the Rolling Stones divide up revenues very differently, and it has often caused tension in the band. Mick Taylor, a former guitarist, sued the band frequently after he left for songwriting credit he thought he should have received but did not. On the other side, Ronnie Wood was not made a full member of the band for YEARS after he had been playing with them; I believe it was not until the 1990's that he was given full membership. Ian Stewart likewise had his "full member" status revoked despite being a founder of the band, as well as a contributor on most of their albums and concert tours. --Jayron32 06:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
      • They just can't get no satisfaction, can they? (Though they try, and they try, and they try, and they try...) Clarityfiend (talk) 06:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Violin Song Request

What is a good song for third positon for violin?69.227.69.48 (talk) 00:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Since you haven't had an answer yet, I'll have a go at helping. I take it that you've just started using third position? Are you looking for something that will help you practise third position, or are you looking for something to perform that will show you can use third position?

If you're looking for something to practise third position, it's probably best if you buy a book of studies for third position. This will have lots of studies (little pieces of music) written specially to help you practise using, and moving in and out of, third position. For example, this or this sort of book. Your local sheet-music shop should have at least one of this sort of book, or help you find one.

If you're looking for a piece of music to play in third position, there are thousands. Almost any piece can be played with third position, and most middle to advanced pieces expect that you can slip into it when needed. It is the most useful of the positions, after first. If you give a bit more information about the sort of piece you're looking for, and what you want to do with it, I might be able to help. 86.166.148.95 (talk) 22:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

What Movie was that ?

Many years ago, I recall watching a movie, the plot of which seemed to resemble Apollo 13, with the astronauts trapped orbiting the Earth, and engineers trying to bring them home. One of the astronauts was from San Diego, and in the movie, the whole city shone lights up to space, so he could see a light emanating from the California coast, is that at all possible, given that John Glenn and others said they saw oil fires in the desert from space, one of which was later put out by Red Adair, and they also saw Bedouin campfires at night, and what is the name of the film ? Thanks. The Russian. --C.B.Lilly 09:12, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

The Right Stuff (film)? --Jayron32 13:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Marooned (1969). Pepso2 (talk) 13:16, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Males Wearing Bandanas Around Their Heads

Is it a single sided or is double sided bandana (if it is a bandana) that males wear around their heads? What is the color?

Traditionally, is it a single sided or is double sided bandana (if it is a bandana) that males wear around their heads? What is the color?174.3.102.6 (talk) 19:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Is there a photo online that would serve as an example? Bandanas can be worn a few different ways. Also, color may be an indication of street gang membership but without knowing the context of what you're referring to, all we can do is guess. Dismas|^(talk) 23:57, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

[12] Looking at these pics, I noticed an open center paisley bandana. Is that the orignial style?174.3.102.6 (talk) 02:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Original style of what? Of bandanas in general? According to that article, 'bandana' is a Hindi word and paisley is of Indian and Persian origin. So it's possible that bandanas were originally decorated in a paisley pattern. Or you may be interested in do-rag. While not bandanas, males often do wear do-rags on their heads. Dismas|^(talk) 02:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Original style of the bandana "look".174.3.102.6 (talk) 04:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Justin Lukach from Departures wears a black (as far as I can see) bandana. I am not certain if it is single sided or double sided. Does anyone know? (Or know how to figure out?)174.3.102.6 (talk) 08:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea who he is or what Departures is but from a quick Google image search, it seems to be a standard bandana like any that you'd find in a camping supply store or maybe some clothing shops. Dismas|^(talk) 09:16, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

And the banada is not an open center paisley design.174.3.102.6 (talk) 09:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

T V SHOW-----WONDERLAND

What is the name of the theme music currently used on Direct tv's presentation of Peter Berg's "WONDERLAND"....& where can I find it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hal62134 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

December 5

Shortened episodes of Top Gear

Can anyone tell me why episodes of the BBC television show Top Gear are shortened by about 10 minutes for iTunes and Netflix? Some episodes seem to have the news segment or the "Star in a Reasonably Priced Car" segment removed. (I'm in the US) Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 00:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

It's shortened for Dave because they have to cram adverts into the hour, too. Are the Netflix and iTunes episodes from the BBC themselves, or from Dave? (No doubt I've just shown my complete ignorance of both iTunes, which I thought was a media player, and Netflix, which I've never heard of!) Vimescarrot (talk) 01:30, 5 December 2009 (UTC) Helpful fact: Dave episodes might be under the UKTV banner

iTunes also has a store component where you can rent or buy movies/tv shows/music/podcasts. And Netflix is a delivery service that sends out DVDs of shows and movies. When you've watched them, you send them back. It's basically a rental service through the mail and quite popular over here in the US. That aside, the episodes are not from Dave as far as I know, and I do know what Dave is. The end credits and such don't say anything other than BBC etc. Though, now that you mention it, I haven't paid particular attention to see if they say "BBC America", as opposed to just plain "BBC". BBC America is the network that carries it over here. That might explain it since they would show commercials as well. Dismas|^(talk) 01:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Assassin's Creed 2 Black Edition

I was looking online and I was thinking of getting assassin's creed 2 black edition and it's region free, but then I saw where it said Australian version, will there be any difference between the Australian version and the American version, anything at all like the story, combat, weapons, characters, anything at all cause I just want to make sure and I already know the difference between all the editions like the white, black, and the master assassin's edition. I just need to know if there is a difference between the Australian version and the American version and for that matter what does region free exactly mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.15.129 (talk) 06:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Due to recent laws passed in Australia, a special version of Assassin's Creed 2 will be released in that country with all violence removed. Instead of fighting enemies, you will hand them walkie-talkies and walk away. Seriously, though, this post seems to indicate that there will be no differences, but it's possible that there are many, but no one has spotted any yet. Also, the wiki indicates that all versions of the game will be available in Australia. Taggart.BBS (talk) 15:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

2012 movie

How many times does someone say "you have to see this" or similar in the movie 2012? I'm sure it's a lot, but I don't know how to go about finding a number. Tips? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:05, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Count. But why do you care, it's just about the most banal piece of leftist agitprop in history, further burdened by weak special effects.--Leon (talk) 12:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Leftist? Please do not set incorrect political labels on crappy movies, that does not belong on the ref desk./Coffeeshivers (talk) 13:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. But I contend that it is.--Leon (talk) 13:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Why on earth would you consider that a movie about the end of the world is leftist? DJ Clayworth (talk) 21:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps he objects to the heroic portrayal of an unnamed black president who is in office from '08 to '12?

See Hostile media effect. APL (talk) 23:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Climate change is a myth created by leftists, obviously (even though the movie goes for the rightist excuse of sunspots). Adam Bishop (talk) 14:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

In short, just count. You haven't defined "or similar", so I'm compelled to say you need to count yourself.--Leon (talk) 13:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Wait for subtitles for the movie to come out. Use some sort of count function in your word processing program. Those won't include "or similar", though.

Thanks for the replies. The thing is I'm not so keen on doling out another 8 euros to see it in a cinema (although I did enjoy the special effects). Online scripts, or anything else? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 17:37, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Movie/Television show Identification

It's science fiction. At the start of the show, there was some crisis happening, and then there's a group of Star Trek-ish crew (not like conventional astronauts, I mean.) that go on a ship that was just outside the atmosphere. They then go through a huge circle shaped gate that functions like a warp drive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.12.254 (talk) 14:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Stargate. --TammyMoet (talk) 15:41, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I've watched the 1994 movie, but that's not it. (The gate-thing was in space.) It's not one of the newer 2008 movies, because I watched it in the late 90s to early 2000s. I should clarify, I think it was a movie rather than a television show. (Which rather rules out SG-1 too.)218.186.12.254 (talk) 15:58, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to guess Wing_Commander_(film), but I've never seen it, and am unsure whether or not they had jumpgates. Taggart.BBS (talk) 16:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Stargate SG-1 did have a couple of massive stargates in space, which could easily transport huge ships. Stargate Atlantis made copious use of stargates orbiting planets. I know you said it was a film but ... well, just in case. Stargate's supergate, Atlantis spacegate. Shoot - sorry, didn't realise you said late 90s early 2000s. I'd guess that's too early for Atlantis (2004). The SG-1 supergate didn't appear until after Atlantis started airing. Vimescarrot (talk) 17:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

The gate in SG-1 seems to look right but the timeframe doesn't fit.

There is more than one version of Stargate,perhaps Stargate-Atlantis?..hotclaws 21:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

December 6

Reverse

Here, you can see that the mangos are facing (oriented) in one direction (in the center). Although the mangos alternate (in this center), predominantly, the mangos fall in one direction. Where can I find (single sided) paisley banadans that are oriented the other way (the counter part, or reverse, as some would call it)?174.3.102.6 (talk) 01:05, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

What is this movie

I saw this movie about 1-2 years ago, and I remember I really enjoyed it, but I cannot remember the title! Can someone help me?

It's about an American Missionary going to a country like Brazil or something, and there's one scene where the villages of the place he's at tells him not to sleep with his feet uncovered or us the rats would chew his feet. And so he fell asleep with his feet uncovered and his feet were chewed up. The next day the missionary told the villagers that God would heal his feet, and so the next day or two he was able to walk.

Anyone know what movie that is? Thanks. 05:48, 6 December 2009 (UTC)Moptopstyle1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

I don't remember the plots of it very much, as its been YEARS since I last saw it, but the most prominent movie about missionaries in Brazil was the film At Play in the Fields of the Lord. I do remember liking it a lot, but I don't remember that specific scene. --Jayron32 03:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Hm, that's not it, but thank you.

There was also another scene, if it helps, where he goes to the Village's Post Office to pick a telegram, and the Missionary was narrating what the Telegram a. And he said "STOP" a few times. And, ha! I forget what the telegram read. Another scene is where 3 of the Brazilian girls sold themselves or something to some men on a ship? I think so... So if that helps. Moptopstyle1 05:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

Anyone Know House of Heroes?

So, do you know about them? And please don't tell me that is not a question for Wikipedia.. The REAL discussion page hasn't been touched since 1990. (well, it seems like) So, this is kind of becoming a discussion page right? I think so. Moptopstyle1 08:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

What you think isn't all that relevant. What the consensus is, is relevant. This page is not a discussion page, as it explains in the header. And the talk page for House of Heroes was last edited the day before you edited it which was not in 1990. Dismas|^(talk) 08:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't talking about the House of Heroes talk page, I was talking about the actual Discussion Pages that leads back to articles. I don't like how it's set up. The reference desk is much simpler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs) 22:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I, for one, still have no idea what you're talking about. The RFC page that you linked to was last updated yesterday by the bot that is in charge up updating it. And no discussions are supposed to take place there. It's a listing of pages with discussions on them. Dismas|^(talk) 04:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

You can go ahead and delete this question. Moptopstyle1 05:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

Animated series like Ben 10

My young son is a big Ben 10 fan, however he has now watched all the DVDs of the original series and Ben 10: Alien Force. Can anyone recommend any other animated series in the same vein that might appeal to him? Many thanks. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 10:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, there's "Danny Phantom", and I think they still play that on Nicktoons, and that show is about a teenager who is actually part-ghost. There's "My Life As A Teenage Robot" which is about a robot teenager. (ha, ha)

A lot of the Nicktoons are pretty good. "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" is pretty good for kids.

Or, better yet, check out Common Sense Media and this page will give you a list of Children's Cartoons that will tell you what age group that cartoon is appropriate for. I love that site. Moptopstyle1 22:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

New York and college football

Why is the state of New York so bad at college football? This result is surprising considering that New York has at least two strong reasons to be good at college football:

First, American football is certainly a very popular sport in New York. Consider that it has not one but two decently-strong professional teams: the New York Giants and the New York Jets.

Second, New York has the third-highest population of any state in the United States, so there should be a large pool of high school players from which New York colleges can recruit. Consider that almost all the other high-population states have historically elite or near-elite college football programs (this list is descending by population):

1. California - USC Trojans
2. Texas - Texas Longhorns
3. New York - glaring lack!
4. Florida - Florida Gators, Florida State Seminoles, Miami Hurricanes
5. Illinois - okay, this is the other exception besides New York, but even the Fighting Illini and the Northwestern Wildcats are better than anything New York has
6. Pennsylvania - Penn State Nittany Lions
7. Ohio - Ohio State Buckeyes
8. Michigan - Michigan Wolverines
9. Georgia - Georgia Bulldogs

Who does New York have? The Syracuse Orange? The Army Black Knights? The Buffalo Bulls? Even if we include New Jersey (as right next door to NYC and where the Giants and Jets are actually based), we only get the Rutgers Scarlet Knights. Putting it charitably, these are not exactly elite football programs. So why is New York so bad at college football, considering that they should have popularity and population advantages over most other states?

—Lowellian (reply) 16:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

It's very hard to maintain strong programs. Look at teams like Michigan and Notre Dame. They used to be among the elite, but they don't scare anybody now. That's true of teams like Army also, which used to have one of the strongest programs in the nation. Fordham used to be good too. These things ebb and flow. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I know it's hard, and things ebb and flow. You're not answering the question, though. I'm asking why New York specifically does not have an elite program, when all the other high-population states do. New York does not put teams into the Top 10 or even Top 25 the way the other high-population states do. You can't say that Army or Fordham (the latter merely Division I-AA), over the past thirty years, has been anything like the teams I've listed from other high-population states. You mentioned Michigan and Notre Dame -- they may be be having down years right now, but both were in BCS bowls just three or so years ago. You can't say that about any team from New York. New York definitely underperforms relative to its population, and I'm asking why. —Lowellian (reply) 18:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Note: I can account for Army's weakness -- being a military academy makes for stringent admission standards which make it difficult to recruit an elite football team. But the question is why New York doesn't have elite state university system football programs like other high-population states do. —Lowellian (reply) 18:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I know it is the wrong answer, but the reason could have been that somebody had a thought about what the main purpose of having a state university ought to be./Coffeeshivers (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I believe there are two contributing factors: First, there is not a large public state college in one location in New York equivalent to the University of Texas, University of Florida, University of Michigan, University of Georgia, etc. etc.; SUNY is spread out over many small campuses without a central collection of alumni and support. The aforementioned state schools all have graduate schools of law, medicine and business that generally create a pool of well heeled alumni to support the expensive nature of a big time college program. Second, and this is more observation than provable fact, is cultural. New York high school athletes are spread across numerous minor sports (swimming, wrestling, lacrosse, etc.) and not concentrated in football. There is no "Friday Night Lights" equivalent in New York to compare with places like Texas and the Southeastern states where football is a semi-religious experience. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtrp050 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Columbia University used to have a major football program, but it has collapsed recently, along with most of the Ivy League. Woogee (talk) 00:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

That just backs up my original point, though. Like the rest of the Ivy League, the Columbia Lions are Division I-AA, and thus certainly cannot be considered to be an elite college football program in the modern (post-WWII) era. —Lowellian (reply) 02:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

New York University (NYU) disbanded its football team in the '40s for economical reasons (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,885939,00.html). An attempted revival in the '60s was unsuccessful (http://www.nyu.edu/library/bobst/research/arch/175/pages/footb.htm) --Nricardo (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I'd argue that weather plays a role. A kid in Florida, Texas, or California can do sports outside year round. The same can't be said for New York. Look at the major football powerhouses, and in high school they're all southern states. In college they're usually southern states, although there are exceptions. On the other hand, many superb basketball schools at both levels are found in the northeast. Basketball, surprise surprise, can be played inside just as well as outside. 218.25.32.210 (talk) 02:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

The thing is, I have a hard time buying the "cold weather" argument against New York because Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are all cold weather states, too, which isn't stopping them from fielding elite college football teams. —Lowellian (reply) 02:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Division I college football long abandoned the northeastern U.S., despite being essentially formed there. Today, there are only 5 Football Bowl Subdivision schools in New York and New England, and none are anything close to a national power, this is despite that area being the most densely populated area in the U.S. In football's early years, it was played almost exclusively by schools that would later form the Ivy League, mostly private, privileged northeastern schools. Large public institutions never really took hold of football in the Northeast. The first public schools to really embrace football were those of the Western Conference (later the Big Ten) and the Southern Conference (today the SEC and the ACC.) The smaller, private schools found themselves unable to compete with the larger public schools in terms of attracting the best football talent, so most of them became irrelevent by the middle of the 20th century. Since New England and New York lacks many of these larger, public schools, they lack the impetus to develop large football programs. The SUNY system, for example, lacks a "large flagship" school like say the University of Michigan or University of Texas, so there isn't a way to "concentrate" the football talent like in those schools. The University at Buffalo is the only Football Bowl Subdivision team in the SUNY system, and its perrenially bad. In the rest of the Northeast, none of the state-supported schools is generally large enough either. By contrast, places that don't have powerful football traditions have strong college basketball traditions. Since you only need 12 people to field a competitive Division I basketball team, as opposed to the 85 on a football bowl subdivision team, smaller private schools can compete on a more even footing than their larger bretheren. It is rare to find a school which is both a basketball and football power. If you had to press me as to why New York specifically lacked a football power, I would say that it's the organization of the SUNY system which lacks the sort of "flagship" school that other states of a similar size have. --Jayron32 02:44, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I remember reading a piece by the late Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan who suggested that if there isn't much else to do, you devote your energy to rooting for, and supporting, the State University's football team. Where there are more entertainment venues, both indoors and out, there is less thrust to build major college football programs, most of which are actually profession teams with unpaid labor. New Yorkers apparantly support pros teams who call themselves pros. Such was Moynihan's thesis. B00P (talk) 03:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Which reminds me of the canard "The best pro football in Michigan is played in Ann Arbor"... But it does not explain how Pennsylvania can support the Steelers & Eagles AND the Nittany Lions, or how Texas ends up with the Cowboys AND the Long Horns. Its an interesting idea, that the prevalence of pro teams ends up hurting nearby college programs, except it doesn't really hold up. Heck, Florida has 3 pro football teams, and still has 3 top-tier college programs. --Jayron32 03:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Music Program Query

I need help with something!

I am a very creative guy, I've created more than 10 techno songs on my computer using program "Techno E-jay"... I subscribe myself as Survived Miscarriage, but that is not important now...

Techno E-jay is not really a program with lots of options. The main question is:

"What is the name of a program that allows you to create psychodelic and techno music that has lots of options to work with?"

The subquestion is: "Where can I find the full version of the program?" - you know that you can only download a demo from the internet.

Please, answer if you know the asnwer :)

Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miscarriage (talk • contribs) 21:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Try one of the following:

• Cubase
• Fruity Loops
• Orion Platinum
• Reason

—Lowellian (reply) 21:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Rock of Ages Musical

Wikipedia article lists the musical score for Rock of Ages and omits "Keep on Lovin You" written by Kevin Cronin. The song is listed in the musical credits in the Broadway Playbill. Do you know if it is performed in the show and, if so, at what point in the show?

John Lennon

Was John Lennon ever charged for assaulting that Radio Personality guy at Paul's birthday party back in 65 or 66? What had happened is that, the Radio Personality made a comment on John Lennon's vacation with Brian Epstein and commented "Did you enjoy your honeymoon?" (and Epstein was known for being gay, and the Radio Personality known for his humor) So, did the man drop charges on Lennon? I read Lennon actually broke some of the man's ribs. Yikes. Moptopstyle1 22:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

An alternative way to say "Give Peace a Chance". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh! Ha ha! Nice one! But he kind of changed as he got older! With the whole "Lost Weekend" with May Pang! Ha, ha. Yeah, I do like him more as a musician. And I forgot to add (sorry about that)

HE WAS DRUNK WHEN HE ASSAULTED THE MAN. Sorry for not clarifying that. Moptopstyle1 05:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

Sitars Anyone?

It there a website that has a toll free number where you can order Sitars? You know those Indian Guitar things? That George Harrison played? Ha, ha. Thanks. Moptopstyle1 05:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

December 7

Veronica Lake

As Joseph Pulitzer stated, the three most important things in reportage are "accuracy, accuracy, and accuracy." The same is, of course, true for Wikipedia articles. Being sure of one's sources is critical, and the internet has rather low reliability. This was driven home for me when doing research to expand an article which I wrote and maintain, and I came across a number of sites that were verbatim copies of what I had written. Although my article was well-researched and correct, the ease with which misinformation can be spread on the net is frightening. The point of this prologue is that I implore that anyone who answers my question will supply a valid source for the information.

I refer to the article on Veronica Lake.

• The infobox at top right states that she was born in Seattle.
• The section "Early life and career" claims that she was born in Brooklyn.

Okay, so where was she born? B00P (talk) 03:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Ain't Seattle a suboib of Brooklyn? I've corrected it (IMDb and other unreliable sources say the latter), but am still searching for a good source. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

fringe (TV series), season 1, episode 18 (midnight) - soundtrack

hi! i would like to listen to one of the songs in the club scene (@53th minute including commercials), after walter says "prepare the table, agent farnsworth" (or similar) and the syphilis-guy says "thank u" (the song says "about u" quite often, i think...) (the fbi gurl asks "have u found something?" (or similar) and peter says "not yet - i got her" (or similar))... who can say the name of the song? and its artist...? thx. bye. --Homer Landskirty (talk) 03:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Guitar Center People!

Does Guitar Center just MATCH the lowest price advertised, or will they actually LOWER it? I'm looking at this Gretsch 5120, and on most sites it goes for $699, and that price is also on Guitarcenter.com So, is that the only price they'll stay at, or will it go even cheaper to be the "Guaranteed Lowest Price" ? 05:47, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Moptopstyle1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

And also, I CAN'T SIGN TALK PAGES! For real! I Click the "Moptopstyle1 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)" things, and it doesn't work! Sorry, it just won't except it? Any other ideas for me to sign? Watch it won't take it! Moptopstyle1 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC) I signed it and it won't work! Moptopstyle1 05:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

Never mind about the signing my talk pages. Jayron32 figured it out for me. But does anyone know the answer to the Guitar Center question? Moptopstyle1 (talk) 06:03, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Song from I.O.U.S.A.

Hello friends, There is an instrumental song in the documentary called I.O.U.S.A.. If you watch the 30 -minutes, Byte-Sized version here, it begins at 8:46 and lasts for around one minutes. I've searched extensively, but to no avail. Any help would be much appreciated.````