User talk:ThatPeskyCommoner

Granny Pesky's animal sanctuary and Mandatory Truce Zone

I still haven't been able to work out whether the Wikipedia Script was written as a surrealist modern tragedy, a cautionary tale, or a sitcom; nor whether my own part is that weird genius in the basement, the disposable security officer who gets killed within seconds of beaming down, Falstaff, or just yer bog-standard cameo appearance or comic relief ... Perhaps, when all's said and done, I'll turn out to have been Gaspode, after all ...

And here's an interesting thing: if a group of researchers had been tasked to create a working / hobby environment specifically designed to attract high-functioning autistics, it's hard to see how they could have come up with anything better than Wikipedia! If anyone's curiosity is piqued by this idea, do this test! "normal" people score generally under 20, people with high-level math functions often score in the 20-30 range ... and remember, the autism spectrum isn't a threshold, it's a continuum. As with many things, high-functioning autism is best not thought of as a "disorder", it's more of a difference in thought-methods.

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Out with the tide

"People can't die, along the coast," said Mr. Peggotty, "except when the tide's pretty nigh out. They can't be born, unless it's pretty nigh in - not properly born, till flood. He's a going out with the tide. It's ebb at half-arter three, slack water half an hour. If he lives till it turns, he'll hold his own till past the flood, and go out with the next tide."

Charles Dickens, David Copperfield

My mother left us this morning, going out with the tide. We're glad she's no longer suffering; she went very peacefully and just looks asleep. Pesky (talk) 05:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad you were together, so many go out alone Penyulap

My condolences, Pesky. Doc talk 05:59, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

She's at rest now, and you know that you did all you could for her and much more than many people would have done. So glad it was peaceful at the end. PamD 07:36, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

So sad to hear that, Pesky love. At least she's at peace now and won't suffer. Big hugs, and my thoughts are with you and the family. ^OohBunnies! Leave a message 09:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Condolences here too, —MistyMorn (talk) 10:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thinking of you. xox Nortonius (talk) 10:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

To lose the most important person in one's life is the hardest of knocks ... certainly was for me. Thank you for the splendid quotation. Kindest regards, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 11:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Pesky so sorry to hear, my condolences to you and yours on your terrible loss. Zad68 12:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh Pesky, I'm so sorry. I know - and she knows/knew - that you made her every bit as happy as you could while she was here. My condolences to your family, and big hugs to you. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 14:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

My thoughts are with you and your family, Pesky. Worm^TT · (talk) 14:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I don't recall that we've ever crossed paths, but even so, I'm sorry for your loss. I wish you and your family the best in this awful situation. :( Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 14:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

That's really sad to hear, Pesky. Hope you are okay, as well as your family and the menagerie of wonderful creatures you have around you. Stay strong, we love you and are thinking of you. —Tom Morris (talk) 14:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to hear this Pesky, but I'm happy it was a gentle passing. Sending e hugs.(olive (talk) 14:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC))

Please accept my condolences as well. Intothatdarkness (talk) 15:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

• With you and your OH :(. Sad to see your mother go; she was a lovely woman when I met her, with a wicked sense of humour. Keep thinking about that rather than any other aspect - in my experience it helps :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 15:37, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thinking of you, with a hug, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

My condolences to you and your family, Pesky.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 17:35, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

• Near Christmas, I too lost my mother. While I can not fully understand your individual loss, I understand all too well the pain, and I would offer you my deepest condolences. I wish you strength and peace during this difficult time. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 22:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Bless you Pesky, you had a rough road there. She is at peace now. Montanabw^(talk) 23:38, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks so much, guys. It is very strange not having her around; I've been so used to keeping one ear open for her all the time, it's weird not having to any more. Very hard to put my current feelings into words; it's more a sort of detached / dissociated quiet emptiness than grief as most people would probably understand it. My family were very touched by all your messages, too. Pesky (talk) 04:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

My prayers go out for you and your family Pesky. I hope you are able to get through these troubling times. If you ever want to chat with someone, I'm almost always on IRC. Ryan Vesey Review me! 05:29, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

My condolences and prayers to you and your family; I'm so sorry for your loss... Dreadstar ☥ 05:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers. God bless. AndrewN ^talk 05:49, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Very sorry to hear about your loss. Mark Arsten (talk) 07:13, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I just came to offer my condolences to you and your family. You will surely be in my prayers, as well. I wish you strength in these difficult times. ^Avic_ennasis @ 07:46, 3 Sivan 5772 / 07:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Allow me to add my voice to the others above. My deepest condolences on your loss. I've never lost someone close to me so I can't know exactly how you feel, but I can guess that this must be a really tough time for you. Just remember that we are all here for you if you need us. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 09:50, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Terribly sorry. Nobody Ent 10:13, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Cursor blinking, don't know what to write. Wish I could find Wendy Carlos's version of "Sinfonia to Cantata No. 29" on YouTube for you. xxx --Shirt58 (talk) 12:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

May I add my condolences too. Sadly, the loss of our parents is something most of us have to face eventually but knowing that doesn't make it any easier. I was thinking of you as I was walking the dog this morning, watching the damsel flies and thinking about the circle of life. Life's a lot shorter for them, at least we get years rather than weeks. Richerman (talk) 12:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss as well. May your friends and family help you through this difficult time. I'll leave with this. Best Wishes. --  IShadowed  ✰  14:35, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

It gets easier every day, dear Pesky. The sense of loss doesn't go away, but it will get easier. This helped me a lot-when you're ready and if interested [1].(olive (talk) 14:12, 24 May 2012 (UTC))

An alternate version of PJ Harvey's 50ft Queenie here --Shirt58 (talk) 15:11, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

• I'm late to offer my thoughts here, Pesky, but please accept my sincere condolences for your loss here. I am certain that your assistance, comfort and kindness made her transition to the other side far smoother and peaceful. My thoughts are with you, your other half, and your family. x — foxj 15:35, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

• I'm also late (and like Lady says down below I don't think you and I have ever interacted), but hearing about your mother made me think "who will hug the huggers"? Well, apparently a whole bunch of people, but I want to also wish my best to you and yours. God bless, Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 23:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Condolences, Pesky. Have a hug from this tree. Pine^✉ 07:14, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

• Is there any remover of difficulties save God? Say, Praise be God!. All are his/her servants and abide by God's bidding. ```Buster Seven Talk 20:56, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

The bucket

Normally there seems no end to how happy or sad we can feel about something, for me, especially how long I can go on laughing and smiling about something, or so it seems, but there is a wall, there is a limit where something is still funny or sad or makes you angry but you can't laugh cry or yell anymore. Like driving off the road onto the grass, you keep on going and you notice the road gradually disappeared from under you, but you're still going the same speed and why is that, shouldn't you have stopped or slowed down or something ? And now you're way off the road and it's all different and weird and you hurtle onwards wondering what is going on.

God gave us just a bucket for our tears and that's all, it fills up slow and we can pour them our when we need to but it gets to the end and the tears run dry and we stop crying. The hurt doesn't stop, it keeps straight on the same way and we keep straight on going through the motions with an empty face and no tears and the exact same broken heart.

Just the way that we are made, except I think for that guy who had the hiccups for 25 years straight and is like 'kill me, [hic] kill me [hic] kill me'. In time, the central axis of your emotions just seems to slowly move back across to where it was, but that takes years. Always you will feel the sadness and joy, but the gravity of the situation gets further away. Time. Time is what it takes, and time is inevitable, Penyulap

I'd love to be able to cry; I'm sure it would be good for me. My sister can cry without any problem, but it's one of those things that I find almost impossible to do. I find my best "therapy" is just being busy. I really am glad that she's not suffering any more now. The past eighteen months, since my father died, must have been awful for her. They'd been together for 56 years; neither of them ever had another love, they were just meant for each other, and best friends as well as husband and wife. I like to think that, wherever they are now, they're both back in their prime, as it were. I'm sure there's some kind of a spirit which is no part of the body. And, like they say, if animals don't go to Heaven, then I want to go where they go ;P So would my parents. Pesky (talk) 20:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Don't know what to write

I (and my family) are absolutely overwhelmed by the messages of love, sympathy, affection and everything here. It's amazing. Thank you all so much.

Here are a couple of songs which Mummy always loved; we'll be including them in her funeral music.

• Libera: I am the day

• Hayley Westenra: Prayer

I hope you guys love these as much as she did, and we do. Pesky (talk) 08:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Prayer is not the one I thought of initially, which was 'The prayer', as known by many from the perfomance of Josh Groban and Charlotte Church. It's one of my all time favourites, and full of hope and happiness, but also yearning too.

Prayer, by Hayley Westenra is so soft, and so gentle, with a stillness and serenity more appropriate

Hush, lay down your troubled mind
The day has vanished and left us behind
And the wind - whispering soft lullabies
Will soothe - so close your eyes

Let your arms enfold us
Through the dark of night
Will your angels hold us
Till we see the light

Sleep, angels will watch over you
And soon beautiful dreams will come true
Can you feel spirits embracing your soul
So dream while secrets of darkness unfold

Let your arms enfold us
Through the dark of night
Will your angels hold us
Till we see the light

Your mom had such good taste, I'm a cd owning fan of Haley too, Pokarekare Ana, Benedictus, the home she made was second to none ! The refuge that that these songs provide me from the troubles of the world are unparalleled. To take apart and build at the same time, the peace, the beauty and serenity of the music is something I take great comfort from when nothing else can. A beautiful comforting set of arms when there is nobody else there for me. Penyulap

• Pesky, I'm so sorry for your loss. In my religion, it is held that to say someone's name regularly in the days after their death makes them live again - come forth by day, into the light. I guess even if you don't believe in eternal realms, to say their name and watch where their shadow fell keeps them with you. In days to come I hope you have comfort in remembering your Mum's whole life, not just these hard last times. Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh, I have so many wonderful memories of her! And of my father, too. I think of all my "lost" relatives often; we've always been a close family, and it really is, in many ways, as though they've never really left. I had a long chat with one of her old theatrical friends yesterday evening; one of those odd things – she said that she'd been thinking constantly of her over the past week or so, even though she had no idea that Mummy was so close to the end, and though they didn't talk often in recent years. We're never short of memory-jogging things; my father was a very keen photographer, and we have hundreds (possibly thousands) of family photographs as a result. Pesky (talk) 04:15, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about your mother. As we both suffer thru some "afflictions", I have a feeling you mother played and even more important role in your life than most people. You have been a wonderful mother figure around here, you certainly received your training from a pro. You must have made her proud. Bgwhite (talk) 06:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

She was a wonderful mother, grandmother, and great-grandmother. Past price; full of love and caring, and fun and wit, and an extraordinarily talented person. Pesky (talk) 20:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Judging by the way you describe your mom, she lives on in you Pesky. Gandydancer (talk) 10:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Awww, thanks! [Pesky blushes] Pesky (talk) 08:08, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I was following the shenanigans on ANI last night and saw your post. Please accept my deepest sympathy; I lost my mother two years ago, and hope you can cherish the memories (painful though that may be now). Take care and all the best, Miniapolis (talk) 14:57, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Pesky, I just now saw your note at the verifiability mediation page, and I want to offer you my deepest best wishes and sympathy. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:26, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Messianic Judaism

I am very happy to see other editors without a clear potential religious bias appearing in the above material. I wish I could point out a few reference books with good articles on the MJs, but the one I am currently most directly working with, for whatever reason, didn't include an article on them, or any real coverage of them so far as I can see. There are a few books on the subject, but most are either written by Jews or MJs, and are not unreasonably potentially biased. But I can try to review the ones available to me again, if there are particular points you might want to see their coverage of.

Oh, yeah, Greebo says "hello." Well, OK, it wasn't actually a "hello". Greebo doesn't really like dogs much. It was more of a "hsss," actually. Anyway, thought you might like to know. John Carter (talk) 22:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

BTW, I just realized that the above could be taken as some sort of insult/disparagment. Please believe me that all it was and is is an indication of my own really bizarre sense of humor. Sorry about that. John Carter (talk) 19:03, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Hehehe! Hugz to you – it didn't strike to me for a moment as insulting; we obviously have a very similar sense of humour :D Pesky (talk) 03:24, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I literally only just "got" the "dog" thing (I thought it was the wolf thingie). Just adding – one of my various nicknames is The Alpha Bitch (or just AlphaBitch), so Greebo is clearly very perceptive, too ;P Pesky (talk) 09:03, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry

I'm sorry to hear of your great loss. I hope that, with time, the pain will wane, and that you'll find something, or someone, else to help fill up the massive hole in your life. Watch this first, though. --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 07:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful song :o) I haven't really had time to miss my father, as we had to move in to look after my mother on the day my father died (which was a full-time job). I have a feeling that both losses will hit me together; but I also have tons of wonderful memories of both of them. Pesky (talk) 08:14, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Might want to have a word

This was not a very good idea, especially after the editor was recently just being discussed on AN and they did a non-admin close of the previous related discussion. I think it's just going to pass unnoticed -- slow day -- but thought you might want to have a word. Nobody Ent 22:28, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Ah, sorry; missed that one. It seems to have settled now anyway, and Pen's bright enough to get the hint that it was probably best left alone. Pesky (talk) 08:59, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Like you need this

Sorry that an edit spat of mine wound up affecting your New Forest Pony article. We need to do some work on the horse tack articles and categories, but this samuraiantiqueworld guy doesn't know what he's doing plus has an axe to grind with me. (Another person who attacks me viciously because I call them on their stuff. This gets old). If you haven't watchlisted saddle and stirrup, would you be kind enough to do so? Montanabw^(talk) 18:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I will do that. I'm hoping, once I have some time to spare, to drag my Elwyn Hartley Edwards stuff out of storage (or wherever else it is) and reffing saddle stuff, etc. I'm really beginning to think that a topic ban for anything horse-related, broadly construed, might be in order for SAW. This has been going on for too long, and if I'm getting fed up with it, then it must be bad! Though it's probably not a good idea for me to revisit AN/I to start a thread right now. Maybe Chedzilla could have a look through, using Admin-Eyes. SAW has stayed off my talk since I asked them to, but I think this looks like grudge-bearing (and there's no room for that in the 'pedia; it's not collaborative or productive). Pesky (talk) 13:21, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Your insight on the matter is valued. I was quite frustrated to be the person who was labeled the bad guy on some talk pages and when I asked for help, then suddenly I was the one who was put under scrutiny. But if they are pissing you off, then I do feel a bit of relief that I wasn't completely off base. Montanabw^(talk) 16:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

No, I don't see you as being off-base at all. It takes a heck of a lot to break me out of the assuming-good-faith thing. Pesky (talk) 18:14, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

NF Pony origins

Pesky, see the discussion on my talk page, it actually seems more likely that an Iberian link to the UK ponies could easily be made via the Romans; far more likely than the Armada tales. But we are in OR speculation land on that, wanted to toss you the bone, however! I think you are onto something, just not sure what. Montanabw^(talk) 18:50, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Both could likely run into OR to prove one way or the other. Might be best to simply present both origin "stories" (and others if they exist) as possibilities if there are sources that use them. Just my two bits on the whole thing. Intothatdarkness (talk) 16:26, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

You may find it useful to see how we handled origin myths on the articles about Andalusians, Arabians and the Sorraia. See also my new sandbox, in which you all may come and play! (subject to the sandbox rules posted at my talk page) Montanabw^(talk) 16:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

You might be able to add Morgans there as the breed from which all others in the US originated... ;-). Intothatdarkness (talk) 17:41, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Heh! But everyone knows that the American horses are primarily descended from Iberians and Britishers ... ;P Pesky (talk) 18:13, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Chedzilla (talk) 12:14, 31 May 2012 (UTC) <- say all horsey make crunchy tasty treat. Chedzilla (talk) 12:14, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Apparently Chedzilla, so did the first humans to arrive on the North American continent, as the extinction of the ancient wild horse there correlates very closely in time! Montanabw^(talk) 22:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Refs

Sorry about the confusion on your refs on RS/N. Originally this }} was missing so I replaced what was there, but still the refs were not showing up so I tried the another format. I didn't see that the format I used had picked up the refs from another thread. (Note to self: check what you've edited more carefully) Anyway, seems fine now(olive (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2012 (UTC))

Heh! Yes, it got a bit glitchy! I'm not sure why the {{reflist}} style didn't work, but nvm. Between us, we seem to have got them sussed out. Pesky (talk) 15:45, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

samuraiantiqueworld on ANI

fyi; I've mentioned you at ANI in relation to user:samuraiantiqueworld and issues relating to New Forest pony and its FAC. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#user:samuraiantiqueworld and false claims of outing. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:37, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up; I've responded over there. Pesky (talk) 08:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

• Also .. I did reply on my talk in more detail - but yes. I agree with your assessment of the situation completely. Chedzilla (talk) 11:51, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

FAC timing

Pesky, saw your comment on the NF pony FAC page and wanted to comment here. It generally takes a minimum of three supports (often more, depending on the article) before the delegates consider there to be consensus to promote. You pretty much just have to be patient, although reviewing other articles on the FAC page can be helpful. Dana boomer (talk) 11:10, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Gaaarrrrrkkkk! Patience is not my strong point; and right at this moment I don't feel competent to comment on other people's articles. I'm all burned out just now. Pesky (talk) 20:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Maybe a bit more than what you were hoping for and not as rapid as you might like, but I'm doing my best to make any changes that you choose to accept easy to transcibe. Very best wishes, —MistyMorn (talk) 11:28, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Patience has never been my strong suit either! I did finally get around to leaving comments at Exmoor pony, if you're looking for something horsey to do... Are you feeling burned out on reviewing or all around? If just on reviewing, there are plenty of horsey articles (including a bunch from Britain) that need some TLC... If all around - I know the feeling. As a remedy, I suggest a ride on your favorite pony, a cup of hot chocolate and a good book! :) Dana boomer (talk) 11:35, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, guys. Dana, I'm a bit burned out all over; my mother died recently, there's a stack of work I've been needing to do on our land for two years (rebuilding the pound / corral, digging fresh drainage ditch-and-banks, opening up new areas, re-fencing, clearing scrub, thinning woodland, and so on ad infinitum); we're going to have to catalogue all my mother's belongings for probate, get her house ready for sale, move house, and all that stuff. I don't (at the moment) feel competent to review other people's articles (I would probably miss obvious stuff which needs to be done, and there are far, far better reviewers than I am!), though I do feel competent to go in and tweak and rebuild things. All the British native pony breed articles, my aim is to work through them at get them all up to at least GA and ideally FA, in the long term. I would love to go out for a ride on my favourite pony, though due to (my) multiple surgeries and other Real Life commitments (mainly caring for my mother over the past 18 months), I still have to finish breaking and schooling him! And my neurosurgeon has forbidden me even to hold a lead rein (with pony attached) for at least another 6 weeks, let alone getting on top of a pony, let alone getting on top of one who's not been sat on for nearly two years, and will have to start learning all over again, lol! Never mind, it will all come together in the end. Pesky (talk) 07:59, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

ooh, pretty thing to make you happy :)

Can't ride the pony, can't lead the pony with a rope, ask him quite seriously if it is ok to continue as you have been doing the last few days, holding the ponies tail while it leads you about. If he looks at you funny, accuse him of thinking your crazy and demand a refund for dodgy work !!

I'm voting against this image I proposed as a Barnstar. I like it, think of it as a lovely flower to cheer you up (and sorry in advance if it makes you lose your balance and fall over, oops!) Penyulap ☏ 08:21, 4 Jun 2012 (UTC)

Verifiability mediation - choosing the RfC structure

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Hmm. You know about these

Just found Horse rings in Portland, wondering if this stuff is common in the UK and if we could move the article to simply horse rings and expand it to a worldwide focus. Thoughts? Montanabw^(talk) 17:02, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

No, we very rarely see those here in the UK! From my memories of the last years of horse-drawn utility vehicles (the rag-and-bone man, the milkman, brewers' drays, etc.) the horses were just trained to stand and wait on command. There was a chap with a milk round in Kensington, when I was a kid, who had an absolutely gorgeous mule, which responded to voice commands just as well as a sheepdog does. His person could get him to walk on, pull in to the kerb on the left or the right, wait, etc., from anywhere he was within earshot of him. What we do still have is quite a few horse water troughs about, though. Pesky (talk) 05:15, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

It does make me chuckle that the article includes a picture of a plastic toy horse tethered up... Worm^TT(talk) 08:32, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Still see lots of them around in Italy. Nowadays mainly used to tether members of the velocipede breed. —MistyMorn (talk) 12:33, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

If youse guyz could pop over to the article and offer us these thoughts (the Italy tidbit is good, can you find photos?) it would be quite helpful. Montanabw^(talk) 18:34, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

• I know this conversation was days ago - but a thought has been nagging at me, but not the point of nightmares. Horse rings in Portland is a blue link - and yet Horse rings is a red link. Isn't that rather putting the cart before... <Ched stops himself in mid-sentence> Just observations about the the wonderful, wacky, wiki. (and now we know what WWW really stands for. :-)) Chedzilla (talk) 09:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Hey, here's an idea! Why don't you go and dig up any other instances of horse rings on a world-wide scale? ;P [ducks, grins, and runs ...] Pesky (talk) 10:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Actually I did do a quick look for some references (web based, as I don't have much in the line of horse related references), and tend to find more of these types of rings rather than the ones in the Portland article. Guess I'm just lost beyond this. :/ Chedzilla (talk) 18:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC).

Darwinfish on his New Forest Sea Pony (Equus ferus maritimus)

I've actually used those, they seem gimmicky but they actually work! Montanabw^(talk) 21:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

[Pointlessly, but eager to be helpful.] Little Ched perhaps could use a Dalahäst. They don't even require horse rings. [Darwinfish tries to imagine himself on a horse, any kind of horse. It boggles his mind.] darwin^fish 20:36, 15 June 2012 (UTC).

Dear little fishie, I have just the steed for you. Pesky (talk) 20:49, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

[Tickled. ] The Hippocamp! [Mounts his steed. ] darwin^fish 23:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC).

[Gives a shout of laughter at the 'fish's notion of how he'd look with a harp, or is that contraption a lyre? ] darwinbish ^BITE 23:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC).

Darwinfish upon a majestic 4-legged steed - a handsome vision indeed ... or would that be a finsome vision? :) Chedzilla (talk) 02:34, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Verifiability mediation - to protect, or not to protect

Hello again Pesky. Do you think the upcoming verifiability RfC should use a system of protection and transclusion, as was found in the recent pending changes RfC, or should we just keep the entire RfC unprotected? There are good arguments both for and against, and at the moment we are at a stalemate. Could you give your opinion on the matter? The discussion thread is here. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 14:29, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Thinking of you

I haven't seen you around as much lately although I fully understand as I know you have a lot on your plate right now, but you've been on my mind. Good thoughts, too, hoping that all is well enough. Hoping you find the time to get some rest, some peace of mind, quality personal time, some healing. I only know you from afar, but what I know, I like. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 21:53, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Awww, thanks! We're coping OK, though my brain seems to be spending a lot of time in some kind of limbo. For the past couple of years, when people have asked "What are you? What do you do?" I've had a ready answer: "I'm a full-time carer." If someone asked me right now, the answer would have to be along the lines of "Dunno, really." It's wrong that so much of our own perceived identity is bound up in what we do, as opposed to who we are. Does it sound bizarre that I'm not really sure what I am any more? Pesky (talk) 22:04, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

It makes complete sense if you ask me. If you devote so much time and energy to doing something for a long period of time, if you suddenly stop doing that thing it's like...well, what's my purpose now? And it's easy to feel like your full-time activities are a part of who you are. I hope you find a new rhythm to life soon. Many hugs and best wishes. - ^OohBunnies! Leave a message 22:26, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Difficult times let us redefine ourselves. Or force us to. We are what we do, because of what we love and who we love. This means who we are is really a moving target. I'm sure I will like who you become as much as who you've been :) Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 22:43, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

For the wonderful Pesky. Come chat on IRC! Pine✉ 06:05, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Oooh! Man bearing caffeine! [Pesky schlurps] Just what I needed! Pesky (talk) 19:32, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

They Bake Themselves

Buster7 has given you a Nice Koekjes which promote fellowship, goodwill and WikiLove. Hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the good flavor of Nice Koekjes around Wiki World by giving someone else one. Maybe to a friend or, better yet, to someone you have had disagreements with in the past. Nice Biscuits are very tasty and have been known to be so NICE, they will even bake themselves. Enjoy! ```Buster Seven Talk 12:14, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

[Breathing out a light spray of koekje crumbs as she speaks :] Darwinbish has stolen your koekje! The koekje made her happy and she'd like to give you a great big hug for leaving it where she could reach it. Spread the WikiLove by giving her more koekjes, unless you want her boys to pay you a visit! darwinbish ^BITE 14:40, 16 June 2012 (UTC).

Hahaha! Buster, thanks for the koekje, which has been involuntarily donated to Darwinbish! Those Nice biscuits always make me smile – my brother used to hate them, and I used to tease him by trying to force him to eat them, saying: "But it's a Nice biscuit, it even says so!" Of course, that was in the days when he was a scrubby little urchin, as opposed to now, when he's the CEO of a major offshore financial institution ... I still find it hard to fathom how he managed the transformation! Pesky (talk) 19:31, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Did you say "offshore financial institution"? What a coincidence. I just happen to be looking for a finacial backer for a fantastic idea. Imagine this...a bridge across Lake Michigan!!!!! All we need is about $3 billion for the preliminary studies. If this scheme idea works I'll send you a Nice cookie every day. My email is Busters_Big_Ideas@BrooklynBridge.easymoney. ```Buster Seven Talk 21:32, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

[snorting coffee out of nose...] Wow! Yes, that's ... quite some idea! Pesky (talk) 21:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Signpost/2012-06-18/Investigative report

Checking the history of the above it looks as though my edit removed your previous edit. Perhaps an edit conflict, I am not sure, but apologies anyway if I was the cause - not in any way intended.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   09:37, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

No probs! I hate edit conflicts, especially on busy pages. I often find it easier just to copy my comment, go back to the page and re-edit, rather than trying to find the right place in the edit conflict window to put it ... by which time, of course, someone else has got tied up in the conflict too! Pesky (talk) 09:40, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

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 Done

Congrats!

Congrats on the recent promotion of your first FA!!! Here's hoping there will be lots more of them in the future :) Let me know if there is anything I can take a look at, if you have a plan for what you want to take on next. Dana boomer (talk) 23:49, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Yay! I hadn't actually looked at the page yet this morning! My next one to work up will be Exmoor pony (I haven't got around to checking what you put there recently, yet). Then History of the horse in Britain (which Nortonius has been doing quite a bit on, so I expect we'll co-nom it). Might try for the Meermin slave mutiny, as well. And then all the other British Mountain and Moorland pony breeds .... Pesky (talk) 05:47, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Congrats! Precious! (like the gem, see?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

It's my first FA, so I'm pleased that it made it OK. And ... OMG! I was supposed to be creating a map or two for the Yogo gulch! It fell out of my memory! Pesky (talk) 06:04, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

You really had more important things to think about! - I enjoy revisiting the Rlevse page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

You could always aim for a good/featured topic: Mountain and moorland pony breeds as the lead :) Dana boomer (talk) 10:44, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Congrats Pesky! Great jobPumpkinSky talk 11:03, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, —MistyMorn (talk) 11:34, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, guys :D I had a lot of assistance through it; my mother's death interfered a bit with my ability to keep on top of the review at times! Much appreciation for all those who chipped in and helped out.

Oooooooh! "Featured topic", eh?! Now that sounds challenging and fun ;P I'll have to work-up all those mountain and moorland articles. Pesky (talk) 13:36, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

• Congrats from me too, the first one is always the hardest. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:33, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Someone who could use some help

Could I get you to have a look at User:One21dot216dot, who has been having a lot of trouble recently. But perhaps more pertinently, could you suggest ways for me to improve my communication with him. I think he has the wrong end of the stick on a recent Australian political controversy, but I really don't know how to set him straight without causing him genuine distress. I've read your essay - for which many thanks - but I'm still floundering. The editor has shown that he is capable of immense and dedicated effort, and we need people like him, but he's being treated very poorly by some. --Pete (talk) 23:34, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Aaah, poor guy! It may be that it simply isn't possible for you, personally, to put him straight on something – especially if you've been having problems communicating with him already. Bog-standard dispute resolution may be the best way to get him to understand some things; provided that he understands that you're not "doing it to hurt him", etc. I'll drop an invite to him to come over to may talk page; I have a heap of lovely stalkers over here who may also be able to help him and possibly provide some moral support to deal with any angst he may have been getting. Pesky (talk) 06:23, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I want everybody to end up smiling, and I think he regards me as out to make him cry. My problem, I guess, is that I don't like to spell things out, I like to have people take the next step in a logical argument themselves so as to get that "Aha!" resonating moment, and as you say, this is like deliberately hiding information. By the time I began to suspect what sort of person I was dealing with, it was too late. Thank goodness Wikipedia has rules for everything and easy ways to get more eyes on a problem. Any help, any advice - to both of us - gratefully appreciated. --Pete (talk) 06:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

hi Auntie

WikiProject Penyulap, some guideance would be lovely. Penyulap ☏ 01:52, 25 Jun 2012 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal: Case update

Dear ThatPeskyCommoner: Hello, this is to let you know that a Mediation Cabal case that you are involved in, or have some connection with:

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/27 February 2012/Wikipedia:Verifiability

is currently inactive as it has not been edited in at least a week. If the issues in the case have been resolved, please let us know on our talk page so we can close the case. If there are still issues that need to be addressed, let us know. If your mediator has become inactive, also let us know. The case will be closed in one month if it remains inactive. You can let us know what's going on by sending a message through to your mediator, Mr. Stradivarius, on their talk page. Thanks! MedcabBot (talk) 03:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)