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What nature is, then, and the meaning of the terms 'by nature' and 'according to nature', has been stated. That nature exists, it would be absurd to try to prove; for it is obvious that there are many things of this kind, and to prove what is obvious by what is not is the mark of a man who is unable to distinguish what is self-evident from what is not. (This state of mind is clearly possible. A man blind from birth might reason about colours.) Presumably therefore such persons must be talking about words without any thought to correspond. - Aristotle's Physics Book 2, chapter 1

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DYK for Dzungarian Gate

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Geography of New Caledonia

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Shetani

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

ITN credit

--Jayron32 03:07, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	I love your montages. They are very beautiful. I could look at them all day. Thank you! HoopoeBaijiKite 19:26, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I really appreciate that. I did work hard on trying to get them not only to be biologically broad-based but also attractive. Your encouragement makes me want to create some more. μηδείς (talk) 20:11, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring for beginners.

It takes two, baby. And you revert me every single time I change your image. That is why your image always wins, because I don't edit war. You always win by default because I don't push the rules and you do. So now you accuse me of edit warring? Oh my god that is beautiful! At any rate, please go to your RfC and demonstrate where the consensus you claim comes from. Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:33, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

• I invite you to demonstrate how your image is the consensus image here. Given that you repeatedly revert me because you claim that you have consensus I feel you should have to demonstrate that fact rather than simply assert it. Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:40, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

I have a bad case of the flu. I 'll respond as soon as I feel up to it. μηδείς (talk) 19:49, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Then rest up and get well. Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Help Survey

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DYK for Miami cannibal attack

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Miami Zombie

Hi, I have nominated Miami Zombie for a DYK listing with you and those editors who have contributed 1000 bytes or more listed as authors. See Template:Did you know nominations/2012 Miami cannibalism incident if you want to make any changes. μηδείς (talk) 02:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

That's great news! Thanks! Thanks for nominating it ... and also for making me aware of the nomination. So, exactly how do we know if/when it will be approved or accepted to appear in the DYK? Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:23, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Of course. This has been a rather pleasant and productive collaboration all around. Look here for comments and updates on the nomination. DYK seems backed up. Nominations used to clear within about a week. You can help the process by reading other nominations and helping with the review process. You can't review a nomination in which you are named, of course. μηδείς (talk) 03:36, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for all of the info. I have never been involved with the DYK process before, so I did not know any of this information. Thank you! Also, thanks for all the work you have been doing on the "Miami Cannibal" article. Great job! Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I see that this entry appeared on the "DYK" for today (June 15). Congrats on your efforts to get it posted at DYK! Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:54, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

If only that gentleman hadn't changed the name of the article in the middle of its posting (and I not messed up changing it back) the number of hits would have been posted and we could easily have nominated it for the number of views. That can still be done, but it will take some hard work. I will follow up on it. μηδείς (talk) 23:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! (Re: Garden hose)

Thank you for your support. 173.28.244.122 (talk) 03:07, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

A little question...

I noticed there was a discussion on the renaming of the article on poison ivy on Talk:Toxicodendron radicans. I was thinking if I could rename Poison sumac as Toxicodendron vernix. Should I do that? And there should be a proposal to rename all organism articles to their scientific name? Fairly OddParents Freak (Fairlyoddparents1234) 21:33, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I would personally oppose it as violating WP:COMMONNAME. If your purpose is to make a point, see WP:POINTY. I wouldn't do it unless you argue for it in good faith and get consensus for it on the talk page. μηδείς (talk) 21:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

A belated response

Please accept my apology for taking so long to respond at User talk: Peter M. Brown#reptiles. I somehow failed to notice your addition there. I have now responded. Incidentally, your recent reversion to the Mammal article was most welcome. Peter M. Brown (talk) 15:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, thanks. I found the situation on mammals most annoying. The edits were obviously good faith. The IP geolocated to Brazil. Perhaps there was a language issue. μηδείς (talk) 15:58, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Folk Etymology

This is just to let you know I added a comment on Folk Etymology discussion page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Folk_etymology#interwikis But I won't be arguing/discussing, you don't need to reply, it's your decision. Sorry to add this message here. I read your warning. But I wouldn't be sure you'd be reading the article's discussion page... feel free to delete this. :) 208.91.115.10 (talk) 01:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 02:36, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Incidents of zombie-like behavior in 2012

An article that you have been involved in editing, Incidents of zombie-like behavior in 2012, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 17:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I have replaced the {{merge}} tag you removed from this article, as no consensus has been reached in the discussion. Feel free to continue to contribute to the debate, but please do not remove the tag until a community decision has been made and acted upon. Thanks. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

sorry, that was inadvertent. μηδείς (talk) 12:40, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem; I did wonder if it was a mistake. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Ref Desk - A claim to need replacing the PCM on my PT Cruiser sounds fishy

Note that 70.179.170.114 reposted his question to the miscellaneous desk with the BLP stuff supposedly removed. 203.27.72.5 (talk) 03:36, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

what is the problem here??????????????????????

Dude, if your comment is "not a response to anyone's", then your use of the outdent template was inept in the extreme, since the purpose of that template is to label a comment as a follow-up to the immediately preceding comment, but at a different indentation level. Whatever your comment is, it's not a response to mine, and I refuse to let it be positioned where it appears to be a response to mine -- under the general privilege that people are allowed to move comments in discussions in order to make threading relationships clear. AnonMoos (talk) 08:39, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

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I've made it abundantly clear multiple times that your comment cannot appear after mine unless it is made very obvious that it is not associated with mine (definitely not a reply to it), yet you insist on doing things which will lead to confusion and obscurity on this essential point. I really don't understand what the problem is... AnonMoos (talk) 08:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

images

By the way, it could be considered poor etiquette to have multiple large images on your user talk page. I'm sure they're very pretty, but they've never finished loading for me, so I haven't seen them... AnonMoos (talk) 08:44, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you know where stream springer online?

Do you know where stream springer online? Bulkbot84 (talk) 05:48, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

combining my 3 user pages

Can you combined or merge my 3 user pages which are User_talk:Buffyfan84, User:Narwhalgal84 and User:Bulkbot84? That would help me alot. Bulkbot84 (talk) 17:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I have created a request for help for you here on the Help Desk. I am sure it can be done, but an administrator there would be likely to know how; I don't. μηδείς (talk) 18:09, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Nicholas Roerich

If you're going to restore what still looks suspiciously like a plug to me, could you at least re-format the "reference" to something of utility? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:01, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Comments redacted

Just to let you know, I redacted part of your recount of an episode of a TV series featuring the case of Margaret Crotty. As Looie496 and me mentioned, there is no evidence for the claim of what happened to Margaret Crotty appearing anywhere else which would seem surprising if it had appeared in any popular source, like a TV show. So in the absence of evidence the claims actually appeared in the TV show, I don't think these claims should appear anywhere on wikipedia for WP:BLP reasons. If you disagree, please take this to WP:BLP/N but only link to the changes rather then repeating the claims there. BTW, I did not attempt to modify you comment beyond redacting the problematic parts, so part of it may not make so much sense anymore. Feel free to clarify or modify your comment as necessary without repeating the redacted parts. I felt this was better then me trying to modify your comments more. I am purposely not linking to my redactings here to try and reduce the impact, frankly if it hadn't been so long I probably would have asked for a deletion. Nil Einne (talk) 10:15, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

It shouldn't be a problem, since what I am looking for is the episode. I'll get around to checking the new wording. μηδείς (talk) 16:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

File:James Holmes, cropped.jpg listed for deletion

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Please

It's nothing personal Medeis, and I would much rather be NOT checking your edits. But please, I warned you before about unannounced editing of other people's signed posts, so once again, don't change other people's signed posts. Please do stop now, whether it's a template or your opinion or anything else. You can expect a block in future if you continue. You of course can go to ANI any time you want to ask for review of my actions as an administrator or editor. The policy/guidelines I am basing this on would be WP:TPO and WP:DE. Franamax (talk) 06:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Just to be sure, you understand that this comment of yours in no way refutes or avoids my final warning to you about changing other peoples posts, right? Don't change anything about the lines where the other editor post is, does that make it clearer? Oh, and the other bit where you mentioned using hidden HTML comments - no, that also is you changing another's post, so, same applies. Franamax (talk) 23:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012

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NRO Gives NASA Two Hubble-Class Telescopes

http://nasawatch.com/archives/2012/06/nro-gives-nasa.html

--Stone (talk) 08:18, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! μηδείς (talk) 23:12, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Please stop moving my post

Please stop moving my post. If you properly fix your indentation, I will voluntarily move it on request, but I request that you stop moving it yourself given how you've failed two times already to move my post without causing no ends of confusion. As it stands, you not only continued to caused confusion for my post by moving my post (my post was an EC with all posts below including your one you moved which my comment made clear before you moved but not after you moved) but cause further confusion for Someguy1221's post by changing you identation without I think notifying Someguy1221 despite the fact it sounded like they were replying to you and idented their post in reply to you which was no longer clear after you modified your post after they replied. Nil Einne (talk)

What are you talking about? μηδείς (talk) 18:38, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry someone moved my post again and changed the indentation level of your post on the RD/H U.S. and serial killers thread. I presumed it was you again, but I guess from your reply it was not. Sorry for any confusion and for my mistaken assumption. Nil Einne (talk) 18:47, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Or perhaps my original assumption was correct. Either way, I've fixed the problem. I also notified Someguy1221 since you did not. Nil Einne (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

NPA

Please do not attack other editors, as you did to Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Lihaas (talk) 03:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Please be specific, with a diff, because, although I am quite happy to take you in good faith, I have no idea what you are taling about. μηδείς (talk)

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Did you mean to delete my comments from my talk page ?

If so, I'm baffled as to why. StuRat (talk) 04:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Cheese and effing crackers, how did that happen? I have restored them with my last intended addition. μηδείς (talk) 04:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

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My user name is in Latin letters, which represent the Greek letters you see in my signature. Only the second letter, eta, is not the same as the Latin. You see Medeis when you edit. Feel free to refer to me by that name in Latin spelling. The name is well-enough established that I do not, respectfully, intend to change it. μηδείς (talk) 03:55, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Please indent correctly at the RD

Sometimes wrongly indented answers make it difficult to parse the thread. OsmanRF34 (talk) 12:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

If you don't provide a diff I have no idea what you are talking about. If I did not indent at all, then I was not responding to any of the other responses, which is proper, and what I am guessing you might be referring to--but I am not psychic. μηδείς (talk) 15:51, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

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OK.

I'll just ask if we can get along, and that I do sincerely apologies. --Τασουλα (talk) 00:06, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

No problem. μηδείς (talk) 00:09, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

*hugs*. --Τασουλα (talk) 00:11, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Understood ^_^ --Τασουλα (talk) 00:13, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Reference Desk Response

The question you asked was archived right after I posted with the book name I promised, since I'm not sure if you saw it, here was the answer: "The book I was thinking of is The Structure and Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics by R. I. G. Hughes, if you're feeling a little more mathematically inclined, you might try the first 7 or 8 chapters of Quantum Processes Systems, and Information by Benjamin Schumacher and Michael Westmoreland from Cambridge University Press." Let me know if these aren't what you're looking for and I can see if I can come up with something better- I have around 500-600 textbooks pertaining to quantum stuff, so there's a decent chance one of them will be of use.Phoenixia1177 (talk) 01:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

heh, yes, went to respond there and it had already disappeared into the aether--as you saw at your page I did see it and have read the listing at amazon, thanks. μηδείς (talk) 01:38, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Uh wuh? ("Mission statement arbitrary break 2")

I was too responding to Wnt. Tell you what, we can all be above the break, OK?  Card Zero  (talk) 21:58, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

I didn't see that, I won't argue against it. The best solution if you strongly object would be to remove the break. It simply seemed that your "here's a thought" was starting a new...'thought. μηδείς (talk) 22:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

The break would look nice above Wnt's last post, I think, moving our conversation above the break. Wnt can complain about this later.  Card Zero  (talk) 22:12, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

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O tempora! O Ref Desk!

Hi, Medeis.

Please don’t quibble when someone says they don’t understand what you write. Please accept that state of affairs at face value, and attempt to explain it using different words. Please don’t raise hypotheticals about them playing any sort of games, unless you have clear evidence that sort of thing is going on.

Nobody is so good with language that all of their utterances are inherently comprehensible. We all sometimes have to have another go. If you have a difficulty with that, well, I’m sorry, but life is tough.

Let me explain my confusion. You did indeed say that the word "o’clock" is generally omitted, as "assumed" and as "understood". But the way you said that was problematical, I think you’d have to agree:

• Half past eight o'clock is standard American usage, although the o'clock is usually omitted as understood.

How do I parse that? That it’s most common to hear people saying “half past eight o’clock”, or just “half past eight”? If the word is usually omitted, how can the full version be standard usage? Maybe I’m a literalist, but when it comes to discussing the precise formulations of exact words, precision in our answers is very desirable. Me, I’m no dummy, but when someone tells me that black is white, or something to that effect, I am confused.

My post stated my opinion that the OP was interested in the use of the word “o’clock” in these expressions of time. You responded by saying it’s “totally normal”. So I figured that was the way to interpret your original remark. That is, if I asked a random American stranger what time it was, I should expect to hear “It’s 20 past 3 o’clock”. This is what I was understanding you to be saying, at this point, despite your earlier statement that the word is usually omitted. In other words, you had clarified your earlier confusing statement.

I alluded to the “totally normal” thing in my post at 3:47. You didn’t respond to it, so I figured that my understanding was now well and truly confirmed.

Then you said “it's rare that you'll ever hear someone say it's half past eight o'clock”. So, I was back to square 1. Hence my request for clarification. I could have gone into all the above on the ref desk itself, but I thought a simple request for clarification would do the trick.

To prove that I am more than willing to give you the time of day, it is now precisely 10:04:37 a.m. AEST. By my watch. Have a nice day. -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ ^{[your turn]} 00:04, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

But again, I qualified myself each time, saying, for example, it's also rare that one would hear "it's 32 degrees fahrenheit out" rather than "It's 32 out", but that it would in no way sound weird. Having to say the same thing the third time did strike me as odd. In any case, I think keeping this to the relevant ref desk page instead of here is fine. μηδείς (talk) 00:16, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Saying that something "would in no way sound weird" is definitely not the same thing as saying that that something is "standard usage". Not in my lingo, anyway. The former means something that would raise no eyebrows but you wouldn't hear it every day. The latter means something you would hear every day. In my lingo.

Having this meta-discussion on the ref desk would have been totally inappropriate, which is why I brought it here. -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ ^{[your turn]} 00:37, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

I am not exactly sure what you want me to say. "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" is a perfectly unobjectionable, grammatically normal sentence that I would never expect to hear. "Half past eight o'clock" is a perfectly unobjectionable sentence that I have heard maybe half a dozen times at most in my life, but at least twice. What more do you want me to say? μηδείς (talk) 01:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Nothing. I just wanted to ask you to respect people's requests for clarification with an acceptance that they're genuinely in need of such clarification. I did that, and followed it up with a detailed explanation of why I was left confused. But you then defended your posts, when my explanation was not an attack on them, merely an explanation of why they didn't work for me. What I would have liked is for you to acknowledge that, no matter what you may have intended in your posts or no matter how well expressed and articulate you may think they were, the inescapable fact is that I was confused by them. No amount of reminding me of what you said in one place or another place changes the fact that the totality of what you had to say did not compute for me. It did not all hang together. That was my experience. Maybe what you can say to round off this little chat, is "Fair enough, Jack, I accept that that was your experience". -- ♬ Jack of Oz ♬ ^{[your turn]} 04:03, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

How are you?

I noted your frustration on the ref desk. I've had at you a couple of times, but I mean you no ill will in general so believe me when I say I am concerned for you wiki well-being, I think you've been making a pretty good effort to keep things straight over there, but it looks like you are getting burnt out a bit. Please don't get too worked up, and don't let it sour you too much. For all the disagreements we are all having, I know you are making an honest effort to do what you feel is best. I know I sometimes get frustrated and take it beyond the walls of wikipedia into the real world. Don't let it get to you, and please believe that we are all trying to do what we think is right, even if it doesn't look like it, and even if it is a pain in the ass. Mingmingla (talk) 03:33, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Catalonia Independence

Why isn't it being posted? It has overwhelming support? Timothyhere (talk) 11:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)