User talk:DangerousPanda

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Franamax memorial

	In honor of Franamax
	This is in honor of Franamax, who has passed away on November 25, 2012. This user will be highly and deeply missed. RIP.

Pending Changes

Yo, Bwilkins, tahnks for putting pending changes on Lesbianism in erotica! Just out of curiosity: do you stalk Dennis Brown's talk page, or was it just an odd coincidence? Also, is this kind of situation what PC is for? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 19:05, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

I shall admit to being a TPS in this situation :-) It is my understanding that it is exactly this type of case that PC is useful for - more often "high profile" articles, but this one makes sense IMHO. If someone calls me to the carpet on it, I'll be surprised (✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:21, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Userfication of Crown the Empire

Bwilkins, how do I move the page to my user space if the page has been deleted? From my understanding of your denial and what Spartaz said that is what I'm being told to do. I'm not trying to cause headaches just new so if you could help me out it'd be awesome. I guess I need clearer directions. I'm brand new at this. Mariolennox (talk) 12:03, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Let's go all MIB3 for a second and go back in time. On November 15 I closed a community discussion on a band, that based on the policy-based discussion had a consensus to be deleted. 4 days after that, an editor came to my talkpage all snarky, and provided non-policy-based arguments to undelete. The then went ahead and nominated themself for adminship over their horrid perception of Wikipedia policies with the intent to "get back at those who wronged them". 3 weeks after the deletion, you arrived on my talkpage, citing brand new information and requested immediate undeletion. No polite asking, nothing policy-based (you did, after all, link to information that was not even available when the article was deleted). In fact, when you edit this very talkpage it tells you in a nice red box that "if you are here because I deleted your page: first, read this key policy/process document. I am always willing to undelete/userfy based on an intelligent discussion". You did not ask for it to be userfied to become a draft (which I had advised the previous editor)...you were pretty adamant that I undelete to articlespace or else. Obviously, I declined based on how you asked, and the non-policy-based arguement, and I removed the post as uncivil. Indeed, I'm not convinced that there is not WP:SOCK or WP:MEAT going on related to that article. If you read my comment on the poorly-concieved WP:DRV you submitted, I clearly gave you instructions:

• Comment by deleting admin If you wanted it userfied so that you could work on it in userspace, or via WP:AFC, why didn't you simply ask me? Instead, I received an unsigned message on my talkpage simply requesting undeletion based on the exact same reasons that I had already addressed immediately above that message. If you wish it userfied, please confirm that you will not move it back to userspace until you have had it vetted by a well-seasoned editor, AND you can 100% confirm that no sockpuppetry or collusion is taking place regarding this article

When the DRV was closed, those assurances were highlighted. In your WP:REFUND request, you refused to provide those assurances. In this very thread, you continue to refuse to provide those assurances.

So: read the policies you have been provided. Read the advice I had given to the first editor who arrived at my talkpage (it was available the first time you arrived here). Click every single link. Understand what led to the decline to undelete. Understand that your attitude/behaviour has not been conducive to people wanting to do you favours. Then, look carefully at the directions you were provided. Then - and only then - will I userfy the original article for you. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:47, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

• Like I said I'm pretty new and I wasn't trying to be rude and for that I am sorry. I'm still learning the ropes here and I did not know userfication was a thing until yesterday. If it came off wrong my apologies I misunderstood the undeletion process. I read that if new and relevant information the made the band notable came up you can request undeletion. Clearly I was mistaken. How can I prove I'm not any form of puppet? I have initiated a WP:checkuser to provide some assurance via user:fred bauder. I was on WP editing (albeit a userspace draft of a new page which is not yet complete) before I ever weighed in on Crown the Empire. Please advise. Thank you. Additionally, it will not be moved back into the userspace until it has been vetted by a seasoned editor.Mariolennox (talk) 21:51, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
  • We don't do checkusers to demonstrate absence of multiple accounts. I'm afraid you'll have to make decisions based on editing behavior. User:Fred Bauder Talk 16:43, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Fred. I'm still awaiting Mario's reply ... some nugget of something that will lead me to go beyond the level of WP:AGF I'm already at ... (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

• • • So if WP:AGF Exists, why am I still demonstrating I'm not that person? What do I need to do, I've asked multiple times and it's fair to say that yes I acted rude (without intention) but the fact is there is no concrete step you are telling me that I need to do. That is not acting in good faith on your part. If there is something you want me to do I think it's reasonable and fair for you to tell me what it is. I've read all of your links/steps, if you want I will personally ask you to review the page before it is returned to the userspace. I would not have requested a check user if I was performing some form of puppetry. Look at my contributions, none involve the other user other than the Crown the Empire discussion. Mariolennox (talk) 00:25, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

You will find the article here. Note that userfication is a temporary process. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:34, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

• Thank you. I will let you know when it is ready to be reviewed and will ask you to do it. Mariolennox (talk) 01:07, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Response to block on IP 146.7.56.192

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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That IP was me, as I was in school and couldn't log in at the moment. Can you please explain to me how my edits were not acceptable? Did you even look at the edits? I was adding external links relevant to the page. Philipmj24 (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Read WP:EL, and you'll know. Please don't add such links again. Also beware that editing as both an IP address and as a Userid is potentially blockable (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:28, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Why can't you answer the question? Instead of redirecting to a page, can you please tell me specifically what is wrong with those external links? I would really like to know. The links are accessible, factual, and functionable. I read through the list and cannot find any violations. Philipmj24 (talk) 16:37, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Did you think to ask the blocking admin? I agreed fully with them, and found the reliance and continued linking to one website to be inappropriate (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:18, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Philipmj24 (talk) 14:00, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

MMA Event Notability

You are invited to join the discussion at WT:MMA#MMA_Event_Notability. Kevlar (talk) 18:42, 13 December 2012 (UTC)Template:Z48

Not only Bugs

You got a sense o' humor! (Didn't know that. I thought maybe, only the Bugs.) CHEERS, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 08:55, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

*sigh* Apparently I'm only known for my stunning good looks, not my sense of humour. Oh well (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

UC2B

Hi, I'm new to this site and was making the changes on my UC2B page that were asked of me, as I removed all sentences too similar to their original sources and replaced them with my own wording but it was still taken down. Is there anyway it can be put back up? and please let me know if there are other changes I need to make. Thanks Ckenny120 (talk) 10:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I would go back to the concepts listed in WP:FIRSTARTICLE - at this point, I'm not even sure the article you started meets basic notability requirements. As the article was a pretty flagrant copyright violation and the changes were still significant close paraphrasing, there is no way to undelete in that form. I would recommend working through either articles for creation or a personal draft, but please do not re-introduce any of the copyrighted materials back onto Wikipedia (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, sorry I just found this so disregard my last message. But am I still allowed to cite those sources I hope? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckenny120 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, spoke too soon. Just took a look at the notability guidelines. Ckenny120 (talk) 04:02, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Reply on Speedy deletion declined: Shuaib

Hello, Bwilkins the tag placed on the article was correct But User:Nyttend made a move as here making Shuayb (prophet) moved to Shuayb removing the unnecessary disambiguation. Please review it once again and move the page Shuayb to Shuaib as was tagged. As the proper Romanization of Arabic is Shuaib not Shuayb. Thanks. -- Ibrahim ebi (talk) 13:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

TheREALCableGuy/Supermariokart64

While I understand that both TheREALCableGuy and Supermariokart64 were edit-warring, I don't think it is particularly fair to block Supermariokart64 for 36 hours and TheREALCableGuy for 72 hours. I think the times should match out of fairness. Just one editor's opinion. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 17:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Normally I would block them for exactly the same length - it's the way I work. Usually. However, Cable's block should be for 2 weeks. That would make Mario's 2 weeks - which is wholly unfair considering it's their first block. So, I lowered Cable's below where it should be (✉→BWilkins←✎) 18:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

OK, I see your point on that one. I only seen the red bar with the current block time, hadn't looked at the block log, so I didn't know it was an escalation. My goof. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 18:21, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

How about a nice hot cup?

Mmmmmm... a nice hot cup of be quiet!

Hi Bwilkins! I noticed your comments at User talk:Flyer22#Your account is blocked. I see when I go to post here that you don't accept criticism ("if you are here because] you want to... attack me... expect them to be quickly removed [and] consider the consequences", the latter clause being a threat I suppose), so I can't really say what I wanted to say. That's OK. Some of us are sensitive about criticism, and it's to your credit that you're honest about it.

So instead, I'll offer you this nice hot steaming cup of "quietude" for your drinking pleasure. If you want to substitute for "quietude" some more pungent brew, well, that'd be OK too. Herostratus (talk) 19:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Herostratus, I don't say that I'm above (or beyond) criticism. Outright attacks are what's not welcome here. I prefer appropriate and respectful discourse as a solution to issues, not attacks. So, please critique if you find it necessary ... just let's do it nicely :-) ...oh, and a cold beverage right now sounds awesome, but coffee will do nicely (✉→BWilkins←✎) 21:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Rights restored

Per your comments regarding the ability of any admin to change any admin action you have done, I have unilaterally restored the rights to Philipmj24 as there was some question as to the necessity. I've asked for an uninvolved admin to review the articles with Philip. This should not be seen as a comment on your right or judgement, but as a less than optimal solution to a less than optimal problem. It was done as a necessity to end unnecessary drama since Philip neglected to try to contact you and work out the issue first. Feel free to ping me if you have any question or comment on my actions. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 19:52, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Dennis, thanks for the voice of reason. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 21:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

FINA swimming article deletions

Would you consider restoring the FINA articles you deleted? I would prefer to see them go through the AfD process rather than getting mass deleted out-of-process.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 22:06, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I agree. However, Dennis Brown's comments were that an uninvolved admin should take care of that. They could have been undeleted by me this morning, but it's not possible for me to do that now. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll just make a post at WP:REFUND and point them here and to the discussion. Ryan Vesey 22:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Feel free. Although I am the bigger man, as long as the editor in question has outright lies about me on his userpage, I feel very little desire to be of further assistance to him (✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:23, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

While inappropriate, they were not lies, but merely one editor's opinion of another editor's conduct. I removed the comments and left a note on his talk page about it.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 22:51, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate you doing that - it is a lie, because it's not the ANI report that led to the restoral of enhanced rights: I stated from quite early on that I would have simply done it myself. Making it look like it was a justice-was-served situation was therefore a lie. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

The IP you reverted actually belongs to Phil, hence why I posted an additional comment in response. Left him another comment on using the IP for such purposes.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 00:21, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I thought someone said his IP's all geolocate to Missouri ...that one says registered in TX from what I remember. Right now he's socking if it is him (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:37, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I reverted all but one.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 01:44, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for that, and for your measured comments during the kerfluffle (✉→BWilkins←✎) 01:46, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Glad to be done. As I said elsewhere, best to let the folks without the extra bits handle it now. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 02:35, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

WP:RFPP

Sorry about that. I thought I had asked for page protection via Huggle. Turns out it had an error and didn't do anything. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 22:40, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

No prob. Cheers. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:48, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

AFC Decline "Glossary of Video Terms"

Hi Bwilkins, Thank you for reviewing my AFC submission and helping to clear the huge AFC backlog. I just read your comments declining the AFC "Glossary of Video terms" and I'm not sure I understand. Prior to creating the glossary I reviewed the Wikipeida Manual of styles/Glossaries and believe the Video terms glossary is within the styles guidelines for appropriate content. Wikipedia has numerous glossaries, which I tried to emulate as to style and prose, but none specific to the technical terms of interest to those in the video field. Your comment "We already have a process of specific categories that group topics together. As such, there is no need for a "glossary" - especially if it includes terms that are not already covered (nor will be covered) on Wikipedia". Would you mind expanding on your comments so that I might make improvements to the article? What is the process you reference for grouping topics together? Sorry if these are dumb questions, I'm new to this. Mejbp (talk) 23:55, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi- I posted on your talk page 14 December regarding an AFC deline here. I noticed that most of the other posts around it got replys. You seem quite busy on your talk page, so perhaps it just go overlooked. I would appreciate your reply, suggestions etc. Thanks.

Mejbp (talk) 05:40, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

PC level 2

I noticed you (probably accidentally) used PC level 2 on Peter Carl Fabergé and Lesbianism in erotica. PC level 2 "autoreview=review" should not be used at this time. You could change them to level 1 or fully protect them as you deem appropriate. Gigs (talk) 00:50, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Just in my opinion, where there is many autoconfirmed socks being used, a PC2 can be applied under IAR. However, it still could've been an accident. gwickwire^talk_edits 00:52, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I likely just chose what made the most sense based on the circumstance - I certainly did not want to fully protect when some IP's were valid. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 01:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

If you want PC for IP users that's "level 1" or "Require review for revisions from new and unregistered users". The other option of "Require review for revisions from everyone except Reviewers" is what people call level 2, and lacks community consensus for use currently (though as gwickwire pointed out, I guess anything is possible if you can justify it under IAR). It doesn't help that none of this stuff is obvious from options on the protection page. Gigs (talk) 01:13, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Technically, PC2 also allows IP edits to be pending review, but doesn't let confirmed users edit either, unless they have the reviewer userright. gwickwire^talk_edits 01:24, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Your Review on Ray Butts Page

This article does not already exist. There is a link forwarding to a page on the single device invented, where a little back information is present under a history section. A sloppy article that goes off on a tangent about the person, while being about the one invention. Ray Butts has invented more than this, worked for many label under Sam Philips, and contributed much more than this small amount. I just do not have time to write the whole thing. The idea is to create a proper bio page on the person, then elaborate over time. Have separate pages for the inventions of most significance, take off the rambling history on some of those to make it more concise. Was this suppose to be the whole idea behind this open source, make the site better.

The Echosonic article needs to be mainly about the Echosonic. There is NO article on Ray Butts.

This new article is trying to improve the site, yet I cannot get a reviewer to take a serious look. I've had it turned down because the style of the writing. Despite it still being better than the article you quote. Someone was nice enough to re-write it to the preferred style. Now you are giving me this. I'm new to this site, but the review process is seriously flawed. Cruzado (talk) 07:18, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Per our many guidelines on Notability:

When an individual is significant for his or her role in a single event, it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both. In considering whether or not to create separate articles, the degree of significance of the event itself and the degree of significance of the individual's role within it should be considered. The general rule in many cases is to cover the event, not the person... Another issue arises when an individual plays a major role in a minor event. In this case, it is not generally appropriate to have an article on both the person and the event. Generally in this case, the name of the person should redirect to the article on the incident, especially if the individual is only notable for that incident and is all that that person is associated with in source coverage.

Your topic is only notable for one event, which means he fails on this criteria, instant fail. Sorry. gwickwire^talk_edits 02:54, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

And that is the flaw in your logic. You are obviously NOT a history expert in the music industry. Notability and fame are two different things you do realize. Not everyone is going to know every person that is notable. That is why such text exist to note and document such things. This is not a forum for fame, only the most recognizable names. He was notable for many more things than just the Echosonic. Many things done for Gretsch Company alone, not just the invention of the first humbucker pickup either. There are many notable things. Other reviewers have already agreed that he is notable enough. Now I have (with the contributions of others) gotten it written as preferred, and now I am dealing with someone that obviously does not know their history, but is acting like they do. What do I need to do to get someone to take the time to look at this subject with proper attention and education to the subject? This is getting ridiculous. Cruzado (talk) 07:18, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Let me start by saying that if you're going to continue being uncivil to me, or those who watch this page, then we're done; period. You knew that when you first started editing this page, and of course you also knew that when you signed up to this private website. The people who answer here typically have good knowledge of the policies, and some of us have extensive experience writing about music topic.

The two articles were indeed different, in fact your newer one was superior. However, having read them both, I can assure you that only one of them could stay. We either have an article on Butts and the EchoSonic is a redirect to that article, or vice versa. Pick one of the two articles, call it the host, edit it appropriately, and choose which stays.

Let me know. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:32, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I think you just reverted the sock of a blocked user

Bwilkins, not quite a week ago you blocked User:Liberjbkdverkgrj for one week for continuing to add "-Lynch" to Naya Rivera's name in the infobox of Rivera's article despite many reversions and requests to stop.

A couple of hours ago, you reverted User:Wzreyxcitvboyuinoim, a brand new user, who made the exact same edit Liberjbkdverkgrj has been making. It seems extremely likely to me that this is the same user, attempting to evade your block by creating a new account. If so, I imagine an extended block is in order. Thank you very much for your actions so far, and continuing to protect this and other articles. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:16, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I would bet it is too. However, 1 single edit does not give me enough feathers to invoke a WP:DUCK. Keep an eye on them, and let me know if it escalates (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:27, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay, will do. Thank you. BTW, where's the line in this sort of quackery, three? Assuming it is the same person, I'm gathering that a different IP was used—the block is supposed to prevent a new account being made by the same underlying IP, right? Or is that only for permanent blocks? At any rate, the Liber account block expired a few hours ago, so I'd imagine that will be used soon enough. I'll definitely let you know if/when it is. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Eff Won again, alas

I wonder if you'd care to take a look at the edits of the new editor User:Curatrice such as [1]? The tone and approach (disruption by editing image details) are the same as User:Eff Won recently enjoyed using; the only difference is that the target is an old enemy of User:DeFacto rather than User:Lucy-marie. That's easy to understand in the light of the uncertainty at Eff Won's SPI [2] as to whether she was a sock of DeFacto or Lucy-marie, to which I think the answer is "both - same person all along". Or would you rather I opened and documented a new SPI? I fear that would be a slow process and take up the time of several editors, so I'm hoping you may find it all sadly familar and think it appropriate to nip this in the bud. NebY (talk) 17:19, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

User:86.40.202.170

Hello Bwilkins! You (rightfully) declined the unblock request by 86.40.202.170. The user is continually protesting their block and misusing their talk page. They say they are not a vandal while their edits are obviously vandalism. Please revoke talk page access for this user's block. Vacation^nine 22:35, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm having good faith that the discussion underway there will be educational for the editor, and the unblock requests have yet to become an abuse of the process ...yet. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

You may already know this, but just in case,

I wanted to let you know that you were nominated to receive a piece of free merchandise by an anonymous editor (not me, though I !voted for it ). --Go Phightins! 22:41, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Literally, I'm speechless. I was unaware that I had been nominated, let alone supported. Still speechless (✉→BWilkins←✎)

Ever since I first saw you on the project, I've always admired how you conduct yourself. Plus, you add some humor on occasion, which is appreciated. Go Phightins! 01:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism report

Hello. I would like to bring to your attention that an IP user, 69.247.190.207, has been making disruptive edits and has ignored all warnings I've left. In addition, they've been previously blocked twice for the same issue. At your earliest convienence, could you let me know if you could block them? Thank you! Regards, Creativity97 23:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Wow. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 23:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

They have not even edited today. They made one edit yesterday that was not vandalism, as far as I can tell. The last edit on the 1 appeared to be a valid attempt to help. Not sure what we would be protecting immediately by blocking them (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:54, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I understand what you mean by that. Thanks anyway. And just curious Catfish Jim, why did you say "wow"? Creativity97 01:36, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Creativity... The "Wow" comment related to the way in which this IP editor has been treated by yourself and others. Please review WP:VANDALISM and WP:BITE before issuing any more warnings. It's only vandalism if it's a deliberate and malicious attempt to damage the encyclopedia. When you see edits that muck up formatting or introduce trivia to an article that isn't strictly necessary, ask yourself if that editor is really in need of a telling-off or whether they could do with some guidance.

Also, check the timings of supposed "vandalism", whether the "vandal" has been warned correctly (have they had the correct warnings in the correct sequence, i.e. level one, level two, level three) and whether they have had enough time to digest each warning before asking an admin to block an editor (it's usually more appropriate to file a report at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism in any case). The usual sequence of events is to issue a level one notice when you see what might be a deliberately disruptive edit, then to issue a level two if the editor vandalises subsequent to that warning, then level three, then level four, then file at AIV.

Looking at the sequence of events leading to the IP editor's last block:

• Jeff G left a friendly note at 20:55, 2 September, to say he'd reverted an edit the IP had made.
• Between 01:48 and 05:12, 3 September, the IP made seven edits, none of which were disruptive
• At 17:43, 3 September, you left a message on the IP's talk page to say "You've been warned several times now, so please stop your disruptive editing. Your edits to Meg Cummings, Pamela Barnes, Ben Evans (Sunset Beach), List of The Young and the Restless characters (1980s)#Joanna Manning, Palmer Cortlandt and Opal Cortlandt were all not constructive. Please stop. "
• At 17:46, 3 September, you left a message on The Blade of the Northern Lights talk page: "Hello there. I would like to bring to your attention that an IP address, 69.247.190.207 (talk), has been making persistent disruptive edits and vandalism to articles within the scope of WP:SOAPS, after ignoring several warnings from me and other editors. I'm contacting you as I've seen you've blocked IPs before for such matters like this. I've undone many disruptive edits made by them now, and it's really becoming a bother. "
• At 03:29, 4 September The Blade of the Northern Lights blocks the IP for a week
• At 03:30, 4 September The Blade of the Northern Lights leaves a message on the IP's talk page saying that they're blocked
• At 21:56, 12 September, the IP makes his/her very first edit since your initial warning.

Does that seem fair to you? I'm going to ask Blade to comment on this too. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 10:24, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

It took me a while to refresh my memory on this. Basically, when I originally blocked the IP, it was making a lot of seemingly arbitrary edits to the infoboxes of character articles, many of which were GAs, by either adding way excessive detail or removing seemingly important information. The IP was repeatedly warned and showed no signs of responding to any of the concerns being raised. This is exactly the kind of edit I blocked the IP for in the first place; while it certainly made sense to AGF when this first started (and it's probably being done in good faith even today), now it's a matter of refusing to listen to advice and warnings. It reminds me a bit of this guy, who was doing something similar on kana articles. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thanks for the awesome work you do for Wikipedia. Keep up the great work! TBrandley 02:06, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks ... not sure what I did to deserve this recently, but thank you! (✉→BWilkins←✎) 21:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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Mtking ^(edits) 10:51, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmm..don't see anything there (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:58, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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User:Liberjbkdverkgrj is back

You blocked this person for a week for repeating vandalism on Naya Rivera. It just happened again. Since it was more than a day since the block ended, I reverted, put a 4im vandalism warning on the user's talk page and came straight to you, rather than reporting it through channels. I figured you'd want to handle this one yourself. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:51, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Chile

Hello Wilkins, can you see the Revision History of Chile please; I hope I'm not disrupting the work of bots there. Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas. --E4024 (talk) 20:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Somebody disrupted Chile's Spanish article. I reverted them. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 20:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry

I was just looking over an October Signpost thread and came across this comment of mine to you. That was out of line, sorry. I think I was pissed off with you over something else at the time and overreacted. I was addressing your heading not the idea. I think the idea is a good one. Jimbo is proposing transferring some more powers to the community in the new year, and that may include changes to admin appointment. I just wanted to say that I would support either Looie's representative democracy model in the above-linked discussion, or a version of the model you pointed to, over the present ordeal by fire. Though, of the two - for probable efficiency, humanity and effectiveness - I prefer Looie's model. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 11:35, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll be honest, I never saw that reply! I appreciate not only the explanation, but the fact that you took the time to explain it. Cheers! (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:38, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Umesh Soman

Just an FYI. The NLP article was semi-protected because of multiple new IPs and new SPA accounts. Full list here. It looks like a recurrence of an earlier meat farm based around one of the serial IDs adopted by Comaze who is subject to the original arbcom ruling on NLP. I am putting a case together for Arbcom enforcement over the holiday period - there are a lot of forensics and links so it is going to take time. I saw your advise to Umesh Soman - the latest of ten SPAs created in the last six weeks or so - which I hope s/he follows but there is a long history of edit warring SPAs on the account. ----Snowded ^TALK 12:05, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Understood. I've watchlisted their page - that welcome emanated from an RFP/C request. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 12:14, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!----Snowded ^TALK 12:20, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Season's tidings!

To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:42, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Concentrated benefits and diffuse costs

You recently redirected concentrated benefits and diffuse costs to tragedy of the commons...however, as far as I can tell, there are absolutely no reliable sources that specify a connection between the two concepts. Also, the results of the AfD were 2 keep, 2 delete and 1 redirect. Yet, there are plenty of reliable sources which support the notability of this concept:

• Coleman, John - Democracy's Debt Dilemma Harvard Business Review. 24 April 2012
• Farber, Daniel A. and O'Connell, Anne Joseph - Research Handbook on Public Choice and Public Law 2010
• Schneider, Friedrich and Rowley, Charles Kershaw - The Encyclopedia of Public Choice 2004
• Olson, Mancur - The Logic of Collective Action. Harvard University Press. 1971
• Taylor, John B. and Weerapana, Akila - Principles of Microeconomics 2009
• Nechyba, Thomas - Microeconomics: An Intuitive Approach 2010
• Persson, Torsten and Tabellini, Guido Enrico - Political Economics: Explaining Economic Policy 2000
• Tomasi, John - Free Market Fairness 2012
• Public Choice: Why Politicians Don't Cut Spending. LearnLiberty.org. 20 April 2011
• Boaz, David - Well Worth the Money. Cato. 22 Aug 2011
• Boaz, David - What Big Government Is All About The Freeman.
• Ikeda, Sandy - Two Kinds of Government Failure The Freeman.
• Giberson, Michael - Concentrated benefits and dispersed costs

--Xerographica (talk) 22:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

There were actually 2 who mentioned redirect. I felt it was a better choice than the delete it would have been, as per WP:PRESERVE. So why not expand the other term with some of the ref's you provided so that it makes even more sense? (✉→BWilkins←✎) 22:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

They mentioned redirect but failed to offer any reliable sources to substantiate their suggestion. That's because it's a concept within public choice theory. It's discussed in the special interests section...which now contains a link that erroneously redirects to the tragedy of the commons. So...given that I seem to be the only active editor who's familiar with the field of public choice...it would be great if you could read over those references or take my word for it that CB/DC is notable enough to warrant its own entry. --Xerographica (talk) 23:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll be happy to go back and change it to delete - which was the only other possible close based on my reading of the ref's and policy-based arguments provided. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 23:43, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Can you please articulate the shortcomings of the ref's and specify exactly which policy based arguments that you are referring to? As far as I can tell...it's a notable concept with numerous reliable sources supporting its notability. It was only proposed for deletion because the editor was unfamiliar with the field of public choice. --Xerographica (talk) 23:53, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

It was nominated for deletion because X presented no evidence that the concept is notable, or that most of the quotes relate to the concept. He's now created a second article about the same concept under a different name, although, he's added some (unsourced) background, and at least one of the quotes appears to be on-topic. He's created a number of articles which consist only of a dictionary definition and a collection of quotes. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 09:32, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Jewish leaders

Perhaps a relist? It would be nice to get something out of the AFD one way or another. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:15, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

"No consensus to delete" is something (✉→BWilkins←✎) 23:19, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

So is "no consensus to keep." I'm hoping that with another week of discussion, there could be a consensus one way or another. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:00, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

That's what "no consensus" means - no consensus to keep, no consensus to delete. Based on the arguments, it was never going to become a DELETE, so it defaults to keep (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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Aakeem sockpuppetry

Hi Bwilkins. Following the thread at ANI I'm wondering if we need an additional pro-forma SPI for this case. With this quite obvious pattern of usernames I don't see the need for CU hunting any sleepers. But Aakeem00 has been left unblocked as of yet and I'm inclined to indef this one too as the sockmaster. What do you think? De728631 (talk) 23:38, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I said in the ANI thread to take it to SPI :-) (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alicia Endemann

Any reason why you thought a redirect to Miss Universe Germany would not be appropriate here? --Michig (talk) 13:55, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I didn't see enough support for doing that, yet. However, as redirects are cheap, I would not jump to deleting such a redirect if someone created it. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 14:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars and Indiana Jones connection

Hi, Bwilkins. Can you userfy Star Wars and Indiana Jones connection at User:Erik/Star Wars and Indiana Jones connection? I'd like to merge the "Shared themes" section somewhere (though I doubt I'll be putting the "List of references" section anywhere). I'll then delete the user sub-page. Happy holidays, by the way! :) Erik (talk | contribs) 14:08, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done :-) (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:56, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I made a suggestion to include the aforementioned section at Talk:Indiana Jones (franchise)#Shared themes with Star Wars. Appreciate the help! Erik (talk | contribs) 16:32, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

AfD closure

Did your closure of the AfD for List of Other Backward Classes also apply to List of Scheduled Castes? Both articles were tagged, and I intended for both to be included in my request for userfication, but because the discussants pretty much ignored the second article (and it has had even less editing attention during the AfD than has been applied to the OBCs article), I think it may be appropriate to conclude that the AfD for the Scheduled Castes article needs to be restarted.

Also, as closer, do you have any thoughts as to how long it would be reasonable to wait for the promised improvements to List of Other Backward Classes? --Orlady (talk) 14:43, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll be honest - I didn't even see the discussion on the second, so yes, I would re-AFD it - refer to the results of this AFD. In terms of fixing - well, it's the holidays throughout the world ... give it a couple of weeks as a minimum (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:57, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I started a new AfD for that article. As with the first one, it's a request for userfication, not for deletion.

I agree that at least "a couple of weeks" is appropriate. My main concern is about what to do if that starts to drag on to "several months". --Orlady (talk) 18:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

To BWilkins, please see wp:AN#request admin help to close improper AFD. Thanks, --doncram 02:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Favor to ask

I'm mentoring LuK3, an RfA candidate that withdrew, where you were neutral on. Part of this has him closing AfDs before they are official closed, to help him learn how to judge consensus. There are a couple that you were involved in, and I think that hearing your perspectives on them would be beneficial to him, helping him get a better grasp on the process. If you have the time and inclindation, you are invited to comment. [3] Dennis Brown - 2¢ © Join WER 14:47, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment

Hey Bwilkins, I appreciate your comment at my mentoring page. Determining consensus at AfD, from what I can see and past experiences, can be tough. In addition to knowing to the policies and guidelines, you need to apply them to each AfD discussion. I will be doing 2-3 AfDs a week and unofficially closing them. If you would like, your comments would be appreciated. Thanks, and I hope you have a good holiday and New Year. -- LuK3 (Talk) 16:17, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

No problem! Good luck! (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:25, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Your name is mentioned at WP:AN

See WP:AN#request admin help to close improper AFD. --Orlady (talk) 02:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hello! It looks like you recently deleted the page David Alvarez (actor). I am not quite familiar with the voting policy for taking down a wikipedia article, but it appears that the vote was 4 to 2 in favor of deleting the page. Can you tell me a little bit more about how the decision was made? It seems to have qualified for deletion because David Alvarez did not want the page, according to the person who knows him personally, and he hadn't done anything since being in the show. I was the original creator of the page back in February 2009, so I have a special attachment to this page. Thank you! Broadwaylover 08:09, 25 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Broadwaylover (talk • contribs)

There is no "voting policy", it's a policy-based discussion to determine consensus about an article. The strength of the discussions is what leads to the final decision. In this case, the subject was borderline in terms of notability as per our guidelines to begin with and could have been deleted easily. Add this to their own desire for the article to not exist and we have a slam dunk. Pretty much like I explained on the AfD closure, IIRC (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:27, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

MX896

Curious, do you mind having Disney Channel International undeleted? It's one of MX896's creations, but it seems like a reasonable redirect to Disney Channel (International). Nyttend (talk) 14:44, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the undeletion. Nyttend (talk) 02:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Tao Cruz page

You have removed my information about Taio Cruz's touring history from his page, stating that it is 'un-necessary and non-important detail'. Obviously you are a god on here and an insignificant nothing like me should not question your wisdom, however I can't see why it is necessary and important that some celebrity is wearing Taio's sunglasses brand (a recently added reference you did not remove) but an actual fact about his live performance history as a musician is deemed appropriate for deletion. Also, why did you feel it appropriate to state that my edit was 'good faith' - could this imply that my other edits are, in your opinion, not? Holly har (talk) 13:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

You need to stop being combative around here. I never made ANY comments about the sunglasses - I personally don't care. I stated the edit was good faith, because I believe it was - indeed, it's a whack of your other personal attacks that are not good faith, and I have already brought those to your attention. If sarcasm and attacks are going to be your modus operandi, then I do not see much longer of a future on Wikipedia for you (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

For a god you are a bit touchy. Thank you for the helpful threat. 13:27, 26 December 2012 (UTC) Holly har (talk) 13:28, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

And thank you for proving my point about combativeness. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

At least I've learned how to use the colon. Holly har (talk) 13:35, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Holly har

Based on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Holly_har&diff=prev&oldid=211111872, I'm inclined to cut her a little slack on arguing that the page has been controlled by Cruz's PR department in the past. I agree she has gone beyond any amount of slack I can allow.—Kww(talk) 15:50, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Clearly I made a mistake by unblocking her. It's just a shame that it wasn't clear given the evidence I had at the time. --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 16:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I'd have done the same (I wasn't in any hurry, but I was sitting down to unblock her when I found you already had). Her primary mission on Wikipedia has revolved around a handful of photos. We'll have to see if she can get past it.—Kww(talk) 16:12, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know why you say 'in the past' because Musikshun, who has admitted to being an employee of Taio Cruz, was active on the page as recently as 29th November. With regard to my activities, what's wrong with putting photographs on pages? I thought that encyclopedias need images. What happens is that usually I am the first person with a photograph as I don't bother if there are other good pictures up already. Then other people take my photo down, sometimes without even putting up one instead (as recently happened on the Sky Larkin page). The effort I have had to keep my few photos on pages has been so much that I am not really inclined to put up more of them, even where I have photos for pages which are still completely without images.Holly har (talk) 18:35, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

And before you say that the aim should be to have the best encyclopedia, rather than just keep my photos on pages, I would point out that I agree with that. My photo of Taio Cruz was objected to because it was not flattering enough. However, I would have thought that the point of this project was to show people as they are, rather than as they would like to be. It was even suggested that the photo of Taio was not suitable as he is 'grimacing' - actually he is singing! Holly har (talk) 18:52, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

your personal attack in me

You have left a cheeky message on my talk page. As you represent Wikipedia I am taking this commrnt as an organisation libelist point and therefore will be putting in place the steps to compensate me for this infringement. I will give a period of 7 dats to make a formal apology to me for suggesting I am not adult. I consider this accusation to have been placed on my page to purposely cause defamation and as such will raise an ordinary action under the defamation act 1996 (Scotland). Freidster — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freidster (talk • contribs) 19:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

your personal attack on me

You have left a cheeky message on my talk page. As you represent Wikipedia I am taking this commrnt as an organisation libelist point and therefore will be putting in place the steps to compensate me for this infringement. I will give a period of 7 dats to make a formal apology to me for suggesting I am not adult. I consider this accusation to have been placed on my page to purposely cause defamation and as such will raise an ordinary action under the defamation act 1996 (Scotland). Freidster