User talk:TheLongTone

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Courtesy blanking

It's not "silly", courtesy blanking is a thing we do when deletion debates and other internal workings cause upset to real people in the real world. Everything you want to see is still in the history. This is not controversial. Guy (Help!) 12:29, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough, only I've never seen it done & I don't see anything offensive in the afd debate.TheLongTone (talk) 12:32, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Sure. There's an OTRS ticket 2014012210016753 which refers. You can always ask me why I blank a debate page, I will share as much as I can without violating confidentiality. Thanks, Guy (Help!) 12:35, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

what does "OTRS ticket 2014012210016753" mean?TheLongTone (talk) 12:39, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I naturally assumed that an old hand like you would know, and didn't want to patronise you. See WP:OTRS. If you have a clean record and an interest, more volunteers are always welcome. It's sometimes tricky, sometimes frantic, sometimes dull, but usually interesting. Guy (Help!) 22:38, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm sensible enough for that, but I'll ponder. If I was truly a wise old hand I would have checked you out before reverting the edit!TheLongTone (talk) 23:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

AfD, SCP et all

You might want to edit the nominations, your sig is being spaced to a new line and I thought for a moment that you were nominating yourself for deletion. Which would not be a good thing. htom (talk) 05:56, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Dirtbag Gaming

Hi! I noticed that you marked Dirtbag Gaming for deletion and that the newcomer panicked and deleted the template. Newcomers is not my expertise of Wikipedia, so I was wondering if you could handle the situation and explain it to the newcomer. Thanks, --Bananasoldier (talk) 17:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Actually, somebody else already deleted it. Thank you for your time. Bananasoldier (talk) 17:27, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, by the time I saw the notice it was gone.TheLongTone (talk) 17:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

An Astrologer's Day

Assuming nobody else has suggested that the article be deleted or merged before you read this, please consider withdrawing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/An Astrologer's Day. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:33, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: PlayGroundOnline

Hello TheLongTone. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of PlayGroundOnline, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 07:31, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for the help and advice January 19, 2014 on my deleted wiki entry. Mark v1.0 (talk) 21:40, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

SPI

Hey, I wanted to let you know I opened up an SPI page for the Far Forest accounts. I don't know if this is socking or meating, but I thought that you could probably offer some additional insights into this since you had more exposure to the accounts in question. (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ShellyO773) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:18, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

The Village School (London)

Hi, I removed your speedy from The Village School (London), as educational institutions aren't eligible for A7 speedy: see WP:A7. Thanks, Ruby Murray 11:08, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

My mistake, I thought that this only applied to secondary schools.TheLongTone (talk) 11:34, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I can't find any mention of it in reliable sources though: not even an OFSTED report online. So you might want to take it to AFD. Ruby Murray 11:36, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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speedy

As reviewing administrator, I removed your speedy from FirstCity Financial and changed it to prod-- tho the consensus seems to be that banks like this aren't notable, speedy requires only a rational claim to significance, and it is rational for someone to think that a bank of NASDAQ might be significant for an encyclopedia

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Next Swiss federal election listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Next Swiss federal election. Since you had some involvement with the Next Swiss federal election redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. TheLongTone (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

RAAF Museum Bristol Boxkite Photographs

Hi, I was hoping to get your advice on the RAAF Museum page where I had added some photographs of the replica Bristol Boxkite.

File:Bristol Boxkite Centenary Flight at Centenary of Military Aviation 2014 (1).jpg 
File:Bristol Boxkite Centenary Flight at Centenary of Military Aviation 2014 (2).jpg 

and started a talk page to get a consensus following the removal by one editor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RAAF_Museum

Your advce would be appreciated

Hpeterswald (talk) 10:58, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

They are really nice photos but I'm afraid I agree that only one is necessary.TheLongTone (talk) 11:30, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Hybrid airship

Thank you for helping out. The new editor is insisting on painting their criticisms as "Engineering considerations" and absolute fact. I am in danger of being drawn into a personal edit war. I don't know if you feel up to reviewing the ping-pong match over the associated section title and content, and let me know how you think this should be handled, I would much appreciate it if you could. Feel free to come down against me if you think I am going wrong. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 15:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll do what I can. Many of the edits seem pretty sensible to me...the more I learn about airships the dafter they seem...but the editor clearly doesn't understand that views must be properly cited.TheLongTone (talk) 15:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

What more concerns me is the one-sidedness - the editor will brook no NPOV and demands that their criticisms be presented as the only valid engineering considerations. I have started a new discussion on that specific point. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 17:09, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Agree, have commented to that effect on the talk page.TheLongTone (talk) 17:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Just seen the anti-LTA rant offered to you on their talk page. I am intrigued to see this from someone who, in this post, claims to have worked for a company that, according to this edit, was set up to sell Metal-clad airships but that subsequently collapsed. Love metal, hate LTA. The logical conclusion is that all that metal wasn't so LTA after all. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Whetever their level of knowledge, they have no ides how to go about editing. And for somebody who claims 30 years engineering experience, they are very much the drama queen. Funny, I encountered a similar editor a while back who had performed a huge number of edits on the airship article, basically completely restructuring the history in a very unhelpful way & not leaving edit summaries. I left a couple of polite notes on his talkpage but he carried on & when I got fed up & wholesale reverted he did a similar flouncing off in a huff act. Some people just don't get it.TheLongTone (talk) 19:29, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Why does the word "sockpuppet" spring to mind? — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

I know what you mean, but a characteristic of this editor was that they left no edit summaries Over a seriies of c.150 edits. Claimed to be an airship pilot.TheLongTone (talk) 19:49, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Regarding article - Hammerhead USV-T

Why did you edit the page even after I posted an ''{{inuse}}'' already?? It's sole purpose is to avoid an edit conflict! You only did a very minor change while I was in it for a major copy-edit. In the mean time, I'd cleaned up and re-organized the article, divided in sections and also did manage to more-than-double the page content in addition to adding half a dozen references. And as I went up to save it, The page has undergone changes .. avoid edit-conflict. What? How? I posted...! It took me over half-an-hour to manage this, but was ruined because of a minor cleanup, so in vain. Starting from scratch for one more time now. Abhinav (talk) 18:45, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, just wanted to be able to read the text. FYI, if this happens again you can copy your edits & repaste them into the article.TheLongTone (talk) 18:50, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Can't do it. After you click the 'save page', the page is reloaded and renewed with the current content. No use in going back as all the changes have gone away. There has to be something to copy from.. :). Only way out is if you manage to write out the article again.Abhinav (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

You should get a message warning you of an edit conflict, at which point you can scroll down to the bottom where you'll find a window with your edits in it. And sorry again, it's happened to me & it's infuriating, the only excuse I can offer is that a lot of ediors put up th inuse tag and are in fact not editing.TheLongTone (talk) 19:06, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

• It's alright bro. Thanks for keeping up with the good work. Abhinav (talk) 20:11, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

White Shield

Funnily enough, saw it in a massive Tesco Extra the other day. I think Morrisons, Sainsbury's and Waitrose may stock it. Lovely and light beer. Nice hops. Farrtj (talk) 00:30, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Pedantic Whinge (continued)

Hey man, I'm quite new to being a member of Wikipedia, so just bear with me if this is inappropriate.

Disregarding my rant towards your abuse of language, (which was kind of unneeded, given that I am the one in the wrong, here,) I would really like you to remove the page about that book, if possible. I've read through the rules and guidelines of article deletion, and noticed that there is a mention of a seven-day interval between announcement of deletion and the actual deletion itself. Is it possible, if I ask you as the sole editor of the page, that you can wipe the page completely? (I have a compulsive need for closure, don't ask about it.)

If my behaviour seems somewhat ambivalent to you, don't take it personally. I like drama and giving people a hard time :)

PS. If you read through the plot summary, what did you think of it?BTirbaoqlis (talk) 23:14, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

I can't delete it (I'm not an admin)...if you really want it gone you, as page creator, can replace the prod template with the csd-u1 template (ie csd-u1 enclosed in double curly brackets {{. Cant simply write the code here , since it causes problems). Or you can simply blank the page & I (or sombody else) can speedy-delete tag it. altho I As to the plot...not really my cup of meat, but a) I'm no literary critic and b) even if I was, I very much doubt whether my taste is much in line with the reading publics'. Has the book actually been written, btw?TheLongTone (talk) 23:32, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

The book has been written, yes. It is just not so popular, to be honest. You can imagine why, I assume... but the page is deleted now, so I'm fine. Have a good one.BTirbaoqlis (talk) 09:57, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Allen Simpson

I declined the speedy - your tag was correct but the authors added enough assertions of importance to void the A7. Not sure if the subject meets WP:POLITICIAN or even GNG, so an AFD might be appropriate. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:30, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank You for the Insight

While adding tags I was thinking the same. Thank You for mentioning. Lets's keep the good work.--J Sahu (ଜ୍ଞାନ) ^talk 13:00, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of Cartozoology for deletion

Hello TheLongTone,
I came across the page Cartozoology today, and saw that you had previously proposed it for deletion and said "Probable copyvio, since most google (sic) hits have same text, but since the origin may have been on a non copyright (sic) site (I) am not going down that route."
I pasted the article in quotes into a search engine, and found that it was an exact match of the text at the top of this page. Per WP:COPYPASTE, if a website makes no mention of its copyright status, the material is assumed to be fully copyrighted. Even if the original source was under a workable license, since the content is also posted on a copyrighted site, I propose that it be speedily deleted. Your thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated on the the deletion discussion page. Passengerpigeon (talk) 03:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

DoneTheLongTone (talk) 11:40, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

Message

The article regarding Karl Leidenroth has already been nominated for deletion, but was declined by an administrator. Why are you starting an edit-war? Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

See your talk page. You are very mistaken about what constitutes an edit war.TheLongTone (talk) 14:32, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I left a new message for you on my talk page. Jonas Vinther (talk) 14:33, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you

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Thanks, much appreciated.TheLongTone (talk) 13:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

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Murder of Susan Poupart

This deletion may be controversial; please go to WP:AfD. Bearian (talk) 15:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Lucy Lippard

Hi, I see you removed the list of selected publications I just added on the Lucy R. Lippard page. I see no reason for doing so. She is known as a famous art critic and writer and it is standard practice to list a bibliography of works or selected works. I hope to add this section back to the page asap. OR drohowa (talk) 18:37, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I goofed, & have reverted the edits, I misread the diff as the list of works being removed. Sorry!TheLongTone (talk) 18:39, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi thanks for the clarification. My mistake. I must have looked at the edit history too fast! Thanks, OR drohowa (talk) 06:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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Stunnered

I re-tagged it as an attack page, should get deleted faster that way :-) ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 22:44, 30 May 2014 (UTC) Why did u — Preceding unsigned comment added by 10liamsl (talk • contribs) 18:20, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

King C

I did convert it to redirect, because the term is actually in the article. Surprised me, but there it was. Peridon (talk) 18:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Wonders will never cease.TheLongTone (talk) 22:57, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

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The J.C. Klatch

Hello — About 45 minutes ago, you tagged The J.C. Klatch for speedy deletion, probably because it's a two-line stub with no references created by a new editor whose account name matches one of the names in the article. (Yeah, could there be any more red flags?) But it turns out that “The J.C. Klatch” may be a notable, uhm, individual, as there are references published on independent Websites. Is it possible for the nominator to reconsider a nomination for speedy deletion?  Unician ∇  11:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Can't say I can see enough to change my mind, but I suppose tehre is an outside chance that t belongs at AfD.TheLongTone (talk) 12:02, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

The Daniell Family/ Royal Daniell Family

Thank you for the notice. My contest has been stated on the articles talk page. I would appreciate if you took a look at the following articles in order to resolve any discrepancies: Royal Daniell Family (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) The Daniell Family (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Looking forward to hearing from you, Caoon (talk) 23:06, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

• I've tagged another of the pages for deletion- two of the books don't seem to exist and the third doesn't mention the family at all. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:51, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

You are so diligent & good at finding sources (I was very impressed by your sourcing up of Dave Hollins: Space Cadet). I must confess I only speedied these because they smelt wrong.TheLongTone (talk) 11:42, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

User talk:Summitelectricsupply

I reversed your speedy deletion tag on the article, prodded it instead, and speedied the user page. Do you want to report the usrn name to WP:UAA? Bearian (talk) 19:18, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Done.23:17, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I could use some help

I came across the stub Dragon Dream, a modern rigid airship, and I'm trying to work out its relationship to the manufacturers planned ML866 and ML868 designs, how much is of the work is down to the Walrus Hula, and then Project Pelican funding. And then how to fit that into the parent corporation and aeroscraft articles. Suspect you have enough of your own stuff to do, but if you know anything? GraemeLeggett (talk) 09:47, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I had a brief look at the articles having noted your revert on the Zeppelin article. I'll have a further look.TheLongTone (talk) 10:02, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

I certainly don't think separate articles on Aeroscraft , which seems to be a sort of trade name, and Worldwide Aeros Corp, are needed. The Dragon Dream seems to be a half-size demonstration vehicle, and may very well be what is elsewhere called the Pelican.TheLongTone (talk) 10:13, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Rahul Kumar & Joy Ghosh Page

Respected Sir, I noticed that you have nominated my pages for deletion / discussion for deletion: Rahul_Kumar_(businessman) & Joy_Ghosh_(businessman). If you refer to the history of page Rahul_Kumar_(businessman) the page was edited in requirements of Wikipedia. It is a short biography with links to all credible sources and was discussed with editor Ascii002 itself. I request you to please clear this article, as all sources are from leading newspapers and are 100% credible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikicontri1968 (talk • contribs) 20:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

The articles are OK as far as tone goes (ie not promotional), but I fail to see that these men are notable: they are just businessmen doing their jobs.TheLongTone (talk) 20:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Respected Sir, there are notable references from leading newspapers like Economic Times, Business Standard, Reuters and Yahoo, which is quite notable and old (may be 2 years old or more). They are well written by independent journalists and denotes notability. We can say that these articles are biographies falling under Start category but does not go against the Wikipedia rules, these people are notable in some sense which is covered by independent sources (written by journalists and not self written). The reference points are being well proved and I will try my level best to make it better further. I request you to please withdraw the nomination for deletion for both the pages Rahul_Kumar_(businessman) and Joy_Ghosh_(businessman). I assure you further editing. Please acknowledge my request, I will be grateful to you.

Both the people have contributed to the industry, Rahul_Kumar_(businessman) valued WhatsApp at US$ 11 billion before it was sold to Facebook and Joy_Ghosh_(businessman) is the co-fund manager behind India's largest private equity fund which is notable in itself. Sir, I understand they are businessman doing there job, then why we don't impose the same on articles like [[1]] (having several deadlinks as references) and [[2]] which has only two references and both are dead, which does not prove notability at all. I request you to revisit your decision, and withdraw the nomination for deletion. Even I want to respect Wikipedia rules like you, and I want to become a contributor with ethics just same like you, and I assure you if I have not written a advertisement type article, I will further also not contribute anything absurd, this is my deep hearted request to withdraw the nomination for deletion(s). I thank you for your co-operation and support.

This discussion belongs on the AfD discussion pages.TheLongTone (talk) 11:51, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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Article is OK now. Thanks for reminding me as I had removed it from my watchlist. Yours, Quis separabit? 16:03, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

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Death of Theo Van Gogh

Hi Freishia speaking, sir, the article barely suggest Theo was assassinated. Sir do not delete the article instead , place the

Main article: Death of Theo van Gogh

in Theo's murder section. The article too meets Guidelines of Wikipedia. Sir its a main subject please try to understand FreshiaBomanberham (talk) 11:09, 25 June 2014 (UTC)