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December 12

Date formats

Is there a Wikipedia policy which explicitly states that specific date formats must be used in certain articles? According to this page, it is acceptable for dates to be written as "11 December 2014" or "December 11, 2014". With this being said, isn't it acceptable for an article to use the second format when dates are concerned? JayJ47 (talk) 03:30, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

See WP:ENGVAR. Different dialects of English use different date formats. Wikipedia has two ways to deal with the fact that different dialects of English are different: 1) If an article has a strong tie to a particular variety of English, default to that locale's standard (thus Australian English in Australian-related articles, American English in U.S. articles, etc.) 2) If an article does not have any such ties, simply keep using what is already there (don't change the established convention). So, the date format you choose to use depends on which articles you plan to add a date to. If the article has a close tie to a part of the world that uses a particular format, use their format. If it doesn't, keep using whatever format is already in the article. --Jayron32 03:34, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

@Jayron32: Hypothetically, and maybe this never happens, if an article fairly consistently uses the "wrong" format for the geographical area (such as dmy for U.S.), would you mass change the dates without getting talk page consensus first? ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 03:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

For any long-existing, well-developed article, I'd have a hard time imagining it ever happening. For obscure, rarely-edited articles, it might. As always, if one feels uncomfortable making large changes and anticipates some blowback, posting a note on the talk page a few days before making the change is always a good idea. If no one says anything, go for it; but be sure you're correct. Nothing looks worse than someone who is overconfident in their own wrongness... --Jayron32 03:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Amen to that last sentence. ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 03:50, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Jayron, I'm going to disagree. An established article may have a consistent date format at some point (and citation style, language style, etc.) but it can degrade over time. The applicable guidelines are MOS:DATEUNIFY and specifically MOS:DATEFORMAT. --  Gadget850 ^talk 17:47, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

You may be disagreeing with someone, but you're not disagreeing with me. --Jayron32 21:32, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Redstone

You should please include REDSTONE in your list of Southern Rock bands. They are out of Murfreesboro, TN and have been around for over 20 years, they have 4 studio albums and a live album as well as many vidoes. They have toured with Charlie Daniels, Kenny Wayne Shepard, and Hank Williams Jr to name just a few. They have a website at Redstonenow.com and a face book page at Here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.125.181 (talk) 03:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I have a webpage and a face book. What I don't have is books, magazine articles, etc. written about my life, which is why there is no Wikipedia article about me. Do you have anywhere that Redstone has been extensively covered by reliable source? What have well-known musical journals like Rolling Stone or the like written about them? Before anyone starts an article, we need source text to work from. Who has written that source text? --Jayron32 03:49, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

If i may ask about passwords

Hey uh..Dumb question. In the rare event that i was to accidentally change my password to a Safari supplied password and forget it...How do i reset it? Lor^Chat 07:45, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Since you've saved an email address in your Wikipedia account preferences, you would be able to visit Special:PasswordReset and ask for a temporary password to be sent to your email account. You could then log in with that and set a new password that you can remember. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:49, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Phew..Crisis averted. In other news..Know how to get a iCloud Keychain reset without speaking on a phone? Lor^Chat 07:53, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

@Lor: No. If you don't get a quick answer here, this question is more suitable for Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:24, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I've used that special password reset link, but I don't get any emails. And I've checked both the inbox and junk mail folders. My user page is still up..... User:Rocketmaniac Any ideas? 65.130.196.16 (talk) 14:31, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Can't find the article in search

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Hi,

I have created my first wiki post on a website called Slenky.

But the page doesn't come up when I search for it on wikipedia. It's finished but is there something that I'm supposed to do so that it is officially published?

How or when will the page go live?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annikaallen (talk • contribs) 07:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Your contributions list says that the only page you ever edited, other than this help desk or the teahouse, was User:Annikaallen, and that page was deleted as unambiguous advertising. This is why it is not showing up in the search. Please do not use Wikipedia for blatant advertising. JIP | Talk 09:15, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I'm sorry but I'm confused

does someone who has published books since the 80's.. have to have the publisher from then to reply to my post within 7 days for the post i wrote to be accepted? or.... also I have an amazing teacher and would like to give him the place he has earned

:)

I thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zieante (talk • contribs) 11:00, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

To avoid the article being deleted you need to provide references to published reliable sources independent of the subject to demonstrate that he is notable in Wikipedia's terms. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

an article about a declaration of independence may cite it?

I claimed that an article about a declaration of independence may cite it, based on WP:PRIMARY :"an article about a novel may cite passages to describe the plot, but any interpretation needs a secondary source." the other editor deleted the content since "Deleted These are political statements , mostly unsupported by RS". Am I right? Ykantor (talk) 12:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

If you are having a conflict which cannot be resolved by friendly discussion, WP:DRN is probably the way to go. --Jayron32 16:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

On the one hand, as the policy states, a declaration of independence (which is not a novel, but, like a novel, is a published text) may be cited as to its own content. On the other hand, as Jayron32 advises, if discussion on the article talk page is inconclusive (and there does not appear to have been much discussion), dispute resolution lists several processes that can be used. Moderated dispute resolution at WP:DRN is one of them. Another one would be a neutrally wordedRequest for Comments. Edit-warring at that topic is subject to discretionary sanctions, so that the use of dispute resolution is a good idea. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Ykantor (talk) 18:48, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

DISPLAYTITLE with underscore: What am I doing wrong here?

Hi - I've created a webpage for the annual musical congress SoundTrack_Cologne (yes, the underscore is part of the name), using:

DISPLAYTITLE:SoundTrack_Cologne

But if you check the page, you see that it's not displaying properly, and searches and links containing the underscore don't work. However, the German-language site, here, actually does work with this German-equivalent magic word:

SEITENTITEL:SoundTrack_Cologne

So what have I done wrong here? And how do I fix it?- Theodulf-W (talk) 15:55, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

DISPLAYTITLE can only change capitalization of the first letter. DISPLAYTITLE:Soundtrack_Cologne would work. Or you could move the page to the wanted capitalization. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:11, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Wait - so the culprit is the T in SoundTrack which is breaking DISPLAYTITLE so that it doesn't fix the underscore? That's so weird ... and yet it's apparently right, since your fixup worked fine! Thanks so much! There's another thing, but I'll give it a separate topic. Theodulf-W (talk) 16:57, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I realize it can seem weird. The reason is that the software wants wikilinks to work when the page heading is copy-pasted (or manually copied), which is a very common way for editors to make links. Underscore and space are interchangeable in links so Soundtrack Cologne and Soundtrack_Cologne gives the same link. But pagenames are case sensitive after the first letter so SoundTrack Cologne and SoundTrack_Cologne is another link (which is currently red since the page has not been created). PrimeHunter (talk) 17:32, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Georgian Jews

Hello in article about Georgian Jews you put Nino Abesadze as Georgian Jew, but it's wrond! she is Orthodox Christian, just got merried on Israeli Ambbasador (JEW) and came to Israel so it's wrong to make a mistake with best wishes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.89.18 (talk) 19:18, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

How does someone get merried? Are they forced to become happy?

Truly, though, if you think that it was just her marriage that is causing this confusion, and that she is actually Orthodox Christian, then you should probably find some sources that support that assertion. Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 19:32, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

But for the moment as this is disputed, it should be removed from the article per WP:BLP.--ukexpat (talk) 19:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Our article states that "Her mother and three sisters had immigrated to Israel after her father died in 1980", which rather suggests that she has Jewish ancestry - though of course that isn't incompatible with being Orthodox Christian by religion. We clearly need sources though, whatever the situation is. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Request for Help

The article in question is Georgian Jews, which has an image of Nino Abesadze. (Her own article does not state that she is Jewish, only that she is Israeli.) I tried to remove the image, but am having difficulty in getting it to format properly when I preview the article.) Can someone please remove the image. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:50, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Done - you needed to revise the 'perrow' parameter at the top of the infobox. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I see what the problem was, but it wasn't that parameter. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Archive bot on my talk page

I've made a mess of my talk page archives. I was having trouble with getting the bot to automatically archive and thought it was because I had the pages labeled wrong. I have now moved my first archive page to User talk:Archive 1, which is a problem, since it is not my user talk page. Can some kind and more experienced editor set fix this or tell me what to do? I know that this should be a really basic thing, so my apologies. —Gaff ^ταλκ 21:54, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

I think I have this fixed. —Gaff ^ταλκ 21:58, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

BlackListed site help!

Hey wiki!

Love your site and i spend a large amount of time reading your articles on Music and i love the amount of spontaneous information that you can find about some of your favorite artists!

However, I have an issue with a Clients website. Before working with me they did a lot of Black Hat SEO without knowing, they hired an SEO team that did more damage than good. I've been on board with them for almost 6 months and we are finally returning to a Good Website with Good Content and SEO work.

We have recently cleaned up their site and all Spammy links and Articles in order to achieve a White Hat SEO strategy. We recently found out about the site being Blacklisted on Wikipedia!

What steps can I take to help my client get off the blacklist if any?

We'd be willing to write an article or fill some kind of content gap and we apologize for any of the previous spam that might have come in from some of the old long-gone SEO team.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.250.75.146 (talk) 22:26, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

There is nothing whatsoever we can do unless you tell us which website you are referring to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

This is the only edit to have been made to Wikipedia from this IP address, so we cannot infer what the web site is. If the issue has to do with the Wikipedia external link blacklist, then it is probably unlikely that we will remove the site from the blacklist. If the issue has to do with a spam blacklist that is external to Wikipedia, then you should probably talk to the organization that manages that blacklist. The Wikipedia Reference Desk for Computing might be able to advise you about an external blacklist. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:44, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

First of all, calling "Wikipedia" Wiki is like calling someone that one doesn't know by a nickname that one doesn't know they like or not. It's a tad rude.

Secondly, this fellow clearly has a conflict of interest involving this company that he mentions, so their statement should probably be taken with a grain of salt. At the same time, we should nevertheless also assume good faith and keep in mind the possibility that they might have actually stopped their spamming. I don't know the answer, and nobody here will know either so long as they don't explain what company it is that they are talking about.

I also agree with Robert McClenon: though it's possible that you might be able to get your site removed from the blacklist (that is, assuming that you are talking about the external link blacklist here on Wikipedia), it is quite unlikely. Wikipedia has to deal with many spammers every single day, and why should we risk having another spammer cause problems just because they claim to have cleaned up their act? To put it simply: be prepared to go to great efforts to prove your case. And, even if you do give it your all in proving your case, you might still get rejected. So be prepared for that if you truly wish to pursue this. Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 01:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

December 13

Newish student editor needing help

Resolved

Could someone please have a look at User_talk:Gemayelc#Jastrow? Gemayelc's sig wasn't linking on article talk pages,[1], so I went to his/her user talk page to help test the sig. I have no idea why his/her sig doesn't link. Could someone walk him/her through it? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:43, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Done --Fauzan^{✆ talk}_{✉ mail} 08:24, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Editing validation

If a person edits an article, how is it validated to be true ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.167.129.55 (talk) 01:02, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi there - Wikipedia:Verifiability should answer many of your questions. In short, additions to articles should be verified through reliable sources. If you take a look at most articles, you'll see superscripted numbers that lead to a list of references at the bottom of the page. These references are typically things like news article, books, interviews, etc. that provide the information you see on Wikipedia. Any reader or editor can verify contributions this way - if something is found to be unsourced and/or questionable, it may be removed. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 01:10, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Fixing a talk page archive bot

Resolved

I've come across a bunch of talk pages which have archives that aren't listed anywhere. The most recent case is at Talk:Project Appleseed The original script was added here:[2] It was archived for the first time here: Talk:Project Appleseed/Archive 3 I think I see one error: the counter should have started with 1, not 3. But I don't understand why it's not showing up in the template:talk page header, or the archive box, since the title scheme seems correct. Can anyone help me diagnose what's going wrong? Rezin (talk) 01:53, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The archival is done by a bot. I would suggesting addressing the question to the operator of the bot, Σ. The issue probably has to do with the bot configuration parameters at the top of the talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:32, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I wasn't sure if the fault was in the configuration, the bot, or some other factor. I'll contact Σ, who is probably rewarded for his contribution by getting lots of little cries for help like mine. ;) Rezin (talk) 02:39, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

• The reason the archive wasn't showing up in the archive box was because /Archive_1 didn't exist so it didn't check for /Archive_3 (or even /Archive_2 for that matter). I've moved the archive and cleaned up the call for the bot to archive the page. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 02:50, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error ref no input

@Jonaug: You will have to give us details on what help you need. --  Gadget850 ^talk 04:39, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

the OP is probably refering to this page: [3]--Aspro (talk) 06:02, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

You need to place the reference between the <ref> and the </ref> markup. See here for an example. Help:Referencing_for_beginners#Information_to_include. Also, please read Wikipedia:Notability--Aspro (talk) 05:58, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Refusal to add Richard Isaac Fine to Wikipedia in 2009 as a person who is not "noteworthy"

It has just come to my attention that my name was submitted by others to Wikipedia in 2009. (Redacted) The submission was rejected because I was not "noteworthy", i.e., in publications, radio, TV, received awards, held office etc. I am writing to you to express my amused response. Since I have a B.S., Doctor of Law, Ph,D., been a lawyer, written numerous legal articles, been Consul General for the Kingdom of Norway in Los Angeles for Southern California, already am, and have been in Who's Who in America, Who's Who in the World and Who's Who in American Law amongst other "noteworthy" publications for numerous years, have been interviewed by and appeared in numerous publications and on radio and TV for my expertise and have received various awards for my accomplishments, I was quite amused that Wikipedia, a self described un vetted, non journalistic, composition of unknown writers and critics would challenge the determination of "noteworthy" used by established institutions such as Who's Who. Admittedly, "noteworthy" in Who's Who is limited to individuals, while "noteworthy" in Wikipedia is expanded to places such as shopping centers and other inanimate objects. From this expanded definition of "noteworthy" for Wikipedia, one must pose the question of whether a human must also have some form of an inanimate object in him or her to be considered "noteworthy" for Wikipedia? or, Are those who judge the individuals being submitted as being "noteworthy", themselves inanimate objects totally unaware of the world around them. Help Needed: Require any person judging submissions to review Who's Who before determining that a person is not "noteworthy" for Wikipedia. Richard I. Fine — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.69.132.52 (talk) 05:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

"notable" is essentially a Wiki jargon short hand for everything that is written right here . (or the Cliff's notes version). Having an article on Wikipedia says nothing about real importance or relevance in the world. For example, very few doctors or firefighters or teachers have articles, yet we have an article about this. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 06:03, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Isaac Fine was a complete mess because of offsite canvassing. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 06:13, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The above-mentioned deletion discussion makes it clear that if Richard Fine warrants a Wikipedia article, it is mainly on account of incidents involving his imprisonment. I cannot tell what he was imprisoned for, or form a view on whether it was justified, as the links I have tried to follow no longer work. But I find it odd that he does not mention his main claim to notability in the long paragraph above. Maproom (talk) 09:28, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Also, if the original poster is Richard I. Fine, he has a conflict of interest and should not be involved with his own biography except to request changes on the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:45, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Apparently the 2009 discussion here concerning Mr. Fine is not the only example of a body ruling against him. [4][5] Dwpaul ^Talk 23:04, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Richard I. Fine responds:

This is not a "conflict of interest" as I am not advocating for my inclusion in Wikipedia.

Since the poster writes that "I am not advocating for my inclusion in Wikipedia", this is of no relevance here, per WP:NOTFORUM. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:51, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
I am only registering my amusement at the process and recommending that the editors look to reputable sources. Additionally, any person viewing my life and legal accomplishments would find such things as: (1) conducting grand jury investigation of international pulp, paper and newsprint cartel, representing the Department of Justice for the first time in Tariff Commission [now International Trade Commission] hearing and indicting GM and Ford for price fixing while a prosecutor in the U.S. Department of Justice Antitrust Division; (2) investigating the former Mayor of the City of Los Angeles for Corruption (Special Counsel to LA City Counsel Governmental Efficiency Committee);(3) founding the first municipal antitrust division in the United States for the City of Los Angeles; 4) changing the way United Way deals with donations to require it to allow donors to designate where their donations should go (AID v. United Way et al.); (5) defending and litigating charitable trust case creating RP International (RP v. RP International); (6) bringing and litigating the lawsuit against OPEC (IAM v. OPEC); (7) bringing and litigating the lawsuit to compensate purchasers in Lake Havasu; first time settlement was used for "public good" (MacNoye et al. v. MCO); (8)bringing and litigating the lawsuit which changed the workings of the California service industry to require fair payment for servicers (CSEA v. Matsushita et al.); (9) reorganizing a worldwide Japanese religion (Imuta v. Nakano); (10) litigating lawsuit on behalf of the Republic of the Gambia to enforce the Treaty of Vienna after the United States seized its diplomat in Switzerland and brought him to the United States for trial(U.S. v. Sissoko); (11) bringing and litigating lawsuit to return approximately $71 million plus interest from the Insurance Reserve Fund and transferred to other funds by the State of California Dept. of Veterans Affairs resulting in a 500% increase in insurance premiums for veterans who have Cal Vet mortgages (Debbs et al., v. Dept. of Veterans Affairs); (12) bringing and litigating a series of lawsuits returning and saving approximately $1 Billion to California taxpayers from monies taken by the State, counties and cities of California from trust funds and special funds (Malibu Video Systems et al. v. Hayes et al.; Veltman v. California State Lands Commission; Amjadi and LACAOEHS v. County of Los Angeles Board of Supervisors et al., and others in a series of cases); (13)bringing and litigating the lawsuit which resulted in changing the City of Los Angeles' method of calculating sewer service charges (Shinkle et al., v. City of Los Angeles; (14)bringing and litigating the lawsuits which resulted in closing the California government, stopping 26 years of budget crises and winning the case in the California Supreme Court holding that a government cannot pay anyone without an appropriation (White v. Davis et al., Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association v. Westly et al.); (15) bringing and litigating the first terrorist shooting at a U.S. airport (Hen et al., v. Hedeyat and the City of Los Angeles); (16) bringing and litigating the lawsuit to require the LA District Attorney to pay $14 million to mothers and children in support money that he was illegally holding (Silva v. Garcetti); (17) bringing and litigating lawsuits to preserve the Long Beach Naval Station (Howser v. City of Long Beach; Cantrell et al v. City of Long Beach); (18)bringing and litigating lawsuits against district attorneys and casinos in Nevada for prosecuting people who did not pay their "markers" (lead case Fleeger v. Caesars Palace et al.); (19) bringing and litigating lawsuit against California for not paying small and minority businesses during budget crises (Lido Financial Services v. State of California);(20) exposing and bringing lawsuits against California judges for taking illegal payments from counties who were appearing before them in cases (LACAOEHS v. County of Los Angeles et al., and Silva v. County of Los Angeles et al.); (21) bringing and litigating series of lawsuits against LA County and developers to declare LA County leases in Marina Del Rey, California unconstitutional and obtain $700 million in lost revenue for the LA County taxpayers (lead case Coalition to Save the Marina and Marina Tenants Association et al., v. County of Los Angeles et al.); (22) litigating lawsuit to enforce writ of mandate against City of Los Angeles and uncovered illegal lobbyist payments to City Council members requiring their recusal from voting on development (Grassroots Coalition et al., v. City of Los Angeles); and (23) bringing and litigating lawsuit to stop redevelopment of 200 plus unit apartment complex in Marina Del Rey, California into 500 plus unit apartment complex when developer made contributions to two LA County Supervisors within six weeks of the LA County Supervisors vote, the contributions were concealed, the two supervisors illegally voted, the project passed due to these illegal votes, the County made illegal payments to the judge, the judge and the County concealed the illegal payments and the judge ultimately admitted to the illegal payments, was disqualified, refused to leave the case, entered an illegal judgment, an illegal contempt order, illegally approved the project, later admitted that he made an illegal order and ultimately it was admitted that he was biased against counsel for petitioner who he illegally incarcerated for violation of the illegal contempt order. (Marina Strand Colony II Homeowners Association v. County of Los Angeles et al.) As one may determine, the imprisonment was not the most "noteworthy" part of my career. Its importance was that it reflected the largest judicial scandal in American history and the political retaliation for exposing the $400 million of illegal payments taken by the California state judges from counties appearing before them in cases. The imprisonment was caused by Judge David P. Yaffe who admitted in open court that he was taking payments from Los Angeles County, the Respondent in the case of Marina Strand Colony II Homeowners Association v. County of Los Angeles. Judge Yaffe refused to get off the case after I disqualified him. He then entered an illegal judgment and then held me in contempt when I refused to give financial information to enforce the judgment. Judge Yaffe and all the judges who received the illegal payments from counties received retroactive immunity from California criminal prosecution, civil liability and disciplinary action under Section 5 of California law SBX 2 11 enacted 2/20/2009, before he ordered me to jail on 3/4/2009. Subsequently, on July 10, 2010, Judge Yaffe admitted in court papers that an order that he stated he made on 3/18/2008 stating that I could not challenge him, was never made. The U.S. Supreme Court did nothing upon receiving this information of a "fraud upon the court". The U.S. District Court delayed until I was out of jail and then did nothing stating that the issue was moot. In December 2012, Alan Parachini, the retired LA Superior Court Public Information Officer admitted in an interview with Leslie Dutton of the Full Disclosure Network that the LA Superior Court judges told him in 2002 that they had a a "visceral hatred" against me, wanted "revenge" against me, wanted to "silence" me and wanted to "take me out of communication" for my keeping the issue of the illegal payments before the courts and the legislature. The LA Superior Court, Judge Yaffe, the LA County Sheriff Baca and their lawyers concealed from the U.S. District Court, the 9th Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court that Judge Yaffe and the LA Superior Court judges had a "visceral hatred" against me, wanted "revenge" against me, wanted to "silence" me and wanted to "take me out of communication" as shown in court papers filed in the U.S. District Court and the 9th Circuit in 2013. These actions were a "fraud upon the court" and violations of the due process clause of the U.S. Constitution and U.S. Supreme Court precedent. The U.S. District Court and the 9th Circuit Court refused to follow U.S. Supreme Court precedent and overturn the denial of the writ of habeas corpus. The U.S. Supreme Court refused to follow its own precedent and file the motion to set aside its denial of certiorari. These actions confirmed the corruption of both the judges in the California and U.S. judicial systems as none of the decisions were certified to be precedents and only applied to me. The Wikipedia editor Dwpaul#000666 who writes that:"Apparently the 2009 discussion here concerning Mr. Fine is not the only example of a body ruling against him." is an example of lack of research. If Dwpaul#000666 had adequately performed his research, he would have found the above information regarding the habeas corpus case after the U.S. Supreme Court decision and the interview with Alan Parachini, the retired LA Superior Court Public Information Officer in December, 2012 on the Full Disclosure Network in which he admitted to the bias of the LA Superior Court judges and Judge Yaffe against me since 2002 when the LA Superior Court judges informed him of such. Additionally, Dwpaul#000666 would have found that in 2011, the State Bar Court and State Bar Court judges admitted in a 9th Circuit brief in the case of Fine v. State Bar of California et al., that the reason for the disbarment was my bringing of cases against the judges for taking the illegal payments from counties and not the reasons stated in the State Bar Court Review Decision cited by Dwpaul#000666. Further research would have revealed that in 2012 and 2013, I brought three motions to set aside the Disbarment in the California Supreme Court on the grounds of "fraud upon the court", each of which the State Bar did not oppose. The California Supreme Court summarily denied the motions, despite the refusal of the State Bar to oppose the motions and despite California Rule of Court 8.54(c) which states: "A failure to oppose a motion may be deemed a consent to the granting of the motion." These actions by the California Supreme Court justices further showed their bias and hatred as they worked to protect the judges, including some of their own, who received retroactive immunity from criminal prosecution under Section 5 of SBX 2 11 for taking illegal payments from counties and the approximately 90% of the California Superior Court judges who currently receive such illegal payments without any immunity from criminal prosecution. Finally, in 2010, the NGO Human Rights Alert brought the problems of the California and federal courts and my case to the UN Council on Human Rights which referred to the problems in a footnote in the 2010 staff report on the United States. Hopefully, you may now understand my amusement. If the research conducted by Dwpaul#000666 is any indication of the level of research of Wikipedia "award winning" first class editors, my comments on the quality should be taken very seriously. Finally, it is clear that I am not as "notable" as Paris Hilton who was used as an example of a "notable" person, nor do I wish to acquire such level of notoriety. I prefer to be known for my accomplishments. One of which is exposing, litigating and eradicating judicial corruption so that no one will be victimized by corrupt judges. In this regard, I am the Chairman and Founder of the Campaign for Judicial Integrity [6], a national grassroots organization dedicated to eradicating judicial corruption and restoring our constitutional rights to due process and a fair trial.

Whether or not he is worthy for inclusion, I found that long wall of text to be an interesting read. He certainly writes himself off as a hero of the people, though I'm not going to look further into that to see if his statements are completely factual. Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 05:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Which template?

Which one puts up a notice pointing to a more complete article in the Portuguese Wikipedia (for Paco Bandeira)? Never mind. I found it. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:55, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Notifications

I have just spent five minutes trying to find the WP Help on sending messages to users but all I can find is help on the contacting system and how messages are received, but nothing on how to send messages. I usually use the [[User:P-123|P-123]] method and have just been told by one user that they don't get notified if I leave this kind of message for them on the main article Talk page and only pick it up when they next go to the Talk page, but if I use the {{ping|P-123}} method they will get notified. No user has said this before. I often leave messages for users on main article Talk pages using the first method and am not aware if they receive notifications. If I use the first method on user Talk pages, there is never any difficulty with notifications, as I can get replies to messages immediately. Also, I assume that notifiying a user with a redlinked name does not work using any method and that they can only be contacted on their Talk page. Can you please explain how notification works using these or other methods and say where in the Help pages I will find this information? Btw, locating help in the WP Help pages is a major problem and the Help Desk is usually the first resort, not the last. ~ P-123 (talk) 09:33, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

If I want to leave a message for an editor, I put it on their talk page. If that doesn't work, probably nothing will. There are other methods, which as you have found may or may not work, depending on the editor, on how they have (perhaps inadvertently) set their user settings, and maybe other things. Maproom (talk) 09:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Agreed that Help can be hard to find. There is a Wikipedia project for improving help pages; perhaps that's one of the things they're looking at, I don't know. But I haven't seen any Help desk responders biting people for coming here first.

The tricky thing about notifications is that they don't work unless you include your signature in the same edit as the notification template or link. If you forget to sign, the notification doesn't get delivered, even if you do another edit and add your signature. What you have to do in that case is do another edit and code the template/link again and sign in that edit. Happy notifications! ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 09:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The {{ping}} template is just another way to create a link to an editor's user page. It should work just as well as the [[User:P-123|P-123]] method. And I believe the notification works even when the link is a red link - TheRedPenOfDoom will be able to confirm this. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:55, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to all. I had forgotten that user settings can affect this. I always make sure to include signature in the same edit. Where in the Help pages are notifications covered? I found two places but there was no help on sending, only receiving. ~ P-123 (talk) 10:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes I get a pings even without having a user page (if people use the template correctly, sign and the formal CamelCaseNoSpace spelling of my user name. I think a lot of people may try and ping me and and it doesnt work because of a misspelling of my actual username or they use the name as it appears in the sig.) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:30, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The only such help I'm aware of (and there's a vast universe I'm not aware of) is the doc for the individual templates, such as Template:Ping and Template:User. ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 10:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Someone has thoughtfully set up a redirect so that "Help:Notifications" takes you to the documentation. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:34, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

It makes no difference to write User:P-123 or use a template which produces that. You didn't sign [7] so it didn't cause a notification. Which page have you seen about receiving notifications without mentioning that you have to sign the edit? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:33, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

PrimeHunter: Well spotted. I thought I always signed. I knew that a signature is always needed, so was not checking about that. ~ P-123 (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia in polytonic Greek orthography

The editors of the Greek language Wikipedia (el.wikipedia.org) have disallowed the use of polytonic Greek orthography, i.e., spelling which uses diacritics.

They consistently delete any contributions written in modern Greek with polytonic Greek orthography.

Polytonic Greek orthography is still used by a significant number of modern Greek writers. A large number of modern Greek language books are published every year using polytonic Greek orthography (e.g., see here http://www.tovima.gr/books-ideas/article/?aid=615123).

I would therefore like to ask if it were possible to create a Modern Greek language Wikipedia, which would use "polytonic Greek orthography".

What procedure should be followed ?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polytonist (talk • contribs) 12:13, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

@Polytonist: I think you should start at meta:Requests for new languages. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:24, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Such a thing wouldn't be unprecedented (there are two Norwegian Wikipedias, one in Nynorsk and the other in Bokmål), but to have a separate polytonic Wikipedia created, you'd need to demonstrate extensive usage and/or dispute, comparable to the Norwegian language conflict that was the reason for two Norwegian Wikipedias. Nyttend (talk) 23:57, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The information on this, at least in the English Language Wikipedia is at Greek_diacritics#Modern_use_of_polytonic_system.Naraht (talk) 15:55, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Watchlist notice disappearing

There's currently a watchlist notice set, but because I hit the "close" button some time ago, it disappears before I can read it. Since there's no "open" button, I can't reverse myself easily. Is there any other way to reverse it? I would check the MW: page with the contents of the notice, but I don't know what the name of the notice is, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist?uselang=qqx doesn't help. Nyttend (talk) 13:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

At https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist?uselang=qqx I see "(watchlist-details: 5,827)", and MediaWiki:watchlist-details shows the notice displayed on my watchlist: "Please vote on tools or gadgets that you want the Wikimedia Foundation to improve. This is pilot for a larger survey coming in Q3. The WMF will consider results when planning the product roadmap for future quarters. Learn about the privacy practices and terms for this third party survey here." PrimeHunter (talk) 13:21, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Air turbine fuel and Jet fuel

Are 'Air Turbine Fuel' and 'Jet fuel' one and the same? 117.216.137.164 (talk) 14:12, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

One of the branches of the Wikipedia Reference Desk, probably the Science Desk, might be able to answer your question. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:25, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

You could also try an iterative Google-search on the terms. FYI, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 19:18, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Local School Network Article deleted

I have had an article I created deleted. I wish to appeal aginst this decision. How do I do it? I am particualarly concerned because I put forward what I believed were cgent arguments to the effect that it ought not to be deleted on the talk page associated with this article: Thee have not been responded to but the talk page has also been deleted. This smacks of unaccountable censorship. Further is there a way I can recover the deleted text?

Daithidebarra (talk) 19:05, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

@Daithidebarra: It may be that the article was simply not ready for the main article space. You can request that the article be restored in "draft" form and placed in your userspace. The place to request this is WP:REFUND. If you want to read more about doing this sort of thing, see Wikipedia:Userfication, and it's a common way we can deal with stuff that isn't ready for public consumption, but still needs some work. Good luck! Also, as an aside, please do not call the actions of others "unaccountable censorship". It's rude, and does not assume good faith on the actions of others. Instead, accept that other people are working to make Wikipedia better as you are, and that sometimes there's a difference of opinion. Regardless, use WP:REFUND to get your text back, work on the article until it is up to minimum standards and then move it back to the article space. It's a simple fix, and does not require anyone to say mean things about anyone else. --Jayron32 19:41, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

The article in question was Local Schools Network. The deletion reason is that it, although the subject of the article was eligible for inclusion, it did not provide evidence of notability. See A7 at criteria for speedy deletion. As Jayron32 says, you can request undeletion to move the article to your user space. As Jayron32 says, referring to "censorship" is both seldom accurate and seldom collaborative, and the administrators who speedy delete articles are accountable. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:34, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I want to protect a page

I want to protect the page of our Club. What I shall do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vittoriosastars (talk • contribs) 21:53, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

See WP:RPP as the page to use to request page protection. Dwpaul ^Talk 22:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Please don't even try. Many new editors don't understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with neutrally written articles. You refer to "your club", which means that you have a conflict of interest and should not edit the article, but only comment on its talk page. Also, if you are requesting to "protect" your page, you may mean that you want it locked in your version. Some new editors make that request, but that would be granting them ownership of the article, and Wikipedia does not work that way. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Open support of terrorism

Hi, where should I report if a user is openly supports a terrorist organization, responsible for ethnic and political cleansings? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Виктор Ш. (talk • contribs) 22:46, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Does the editor state that he or she supports a terrorist organization, or is that an inference on your part? If the editor makes that statement, is it in Wikipedia space, that is, on a user page, a user talk page, or an article talk page? I don't see any policy about what to do in that case, but if you know that the editor is a terrorist, then one possibility would be to treat support of terrorism as a threat to injure other people, and to email emergency@wikimedia.org. However, your opinion of whether a particular organization is terrorist is not necessarily that of the WMF. That is my thought for now. In any case, do not call attention to the support. If you merely think that the editor supports terrorism, remember that calling an editor a terrorist-supporter is a very strong personal attack. Someone else may have better advice. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Where should you report it? Quite probably, nowhere. Wikipedia contributors have a diversity of opinions - including no doubt what constitutes a 'terrorist organization'. If you have issues about specific activities on Wikipedia it may be appropriate, after first discussing them with the contributor, to ask for assistance either through Wikipedia:Dispute resolution procedures if this is a content dispute, or possibly at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents if this is a serious issue concerning behaviour that cannot be resolved elsewhere. You should be aware however that merely accusing an individual of 'supporting terrorism' is likely to have no other effect than sanctions against yourself, and that if you make assertions that an individual is editing Wikipedia in a manner that supports terrorism your own behaviour is very likely to also become the focus of attention - and accordingly you will need very strong grounds to do so. I would strongly recommend that you avoid making assumptions and/or assertions regarding what you think the motivations of other contributors are, and instead concentrate solely on what matters to Wikipedia - the creation of properly-sourced and neutral encyclopaedic content. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:15, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Considering you make statements like "The article lacks info about NATO's support of terrorism in Lybia, Syria, Iraq and the Ukraine" [8] I suspect this is just a content dispute and not something to report anywhere. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:39, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

For better or worse, if your opinion is that NATO is a terrorist organization, you are unlikely to find much support in many Anglophone countries. If there is a content dispute, please read dispute resolution, which offers several procedures, but ones that are unlikely to help you "win" an argument that NATO is a terrorist organization. You might be better off in finding a Wikipedia in a language whose culture is more anti-NATO, such as the Russian Wikipedia, or you could simply accept that you are in a minority in the English Wikipedia. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

limit search to contributions by a particular editor or IP

Sometimes I try to find a string I wrote that's common across Wikipedia's latest revisions or that's no longer in the latest revisions. I'd like to limit a search to those pages for which I was an editor. Even better, I'd like to be able to search only revisions including replaced revisions that I edited across all of Wikipedia, because I may not remember which page I had edited with the string. The limit by editor should allow both usernames and IP addresses and ranges. Are such kinds of searches possible? Nick Levinson (talk) 23:05, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

• Nick, seems plausible. What it seems to me that you want to do is a string search on your Special:Contribs/Nick Levinson. I think there is a userscript that does some of that, although I'm not sure if it is exactly what you were hoping for. A user contribs search script could certainly be written if it doesn't exist somewhere, but I'm afraid you'll have to find a capable editor to write it and I currently do not have that kind of time (too many of my own unfinished projects at the moment). Good luck. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 23:14, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

December 14

Annoying ads asking to donate money!

I'm trying to do research about my sons medical condition when I go to search about certain things, especially EDS or chiari 2 banners come up and block the page asking for money and donations! Really!!!??? I have never had this issue before. I use my cell phone to do research and I just tried a few other pages and the same thing. Donate to this and donate to wiki etc. Um, no thanks. I will not be using this once valuable site again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.110.138 (talk) 01:24, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

So you admit you find this site useful, but you are deeply offended by being merely ASKED to contribute something towards its upkeep? Forgive me if I fail to feel your pain. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:45, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

I assume that Wikipedia wouldn't do that if they could adequately fund the project without it (and neither of us is an expert on that question). But it's certainly your right to decide that the benefit of Wikipedia articles is exceeded by the costs of any such annoyances. I think it's awesome that we have a choice. Best wishes with your son's medical condition. ‑‑Mandruss ☎ 02:04, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

I fail to see how asking for money to support a site decreases the value of that site. Dismas|^(talk) 05:18, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

It should be noted that the only reason the site exists for you to research your son's medical condition in the first place is because people saw these banners and donated money in the past. --Jayron32 06:11, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Sir/Madam, perhaps you should instead do some research on: 1. grammar and 2. goodwill. The Wikimedia Foundation is non-profit, and Wikipedia hosts no ads. As such, there is no other way for Wikipedia to be able to upkeep its servers other than by donations. Tharthandorf Aquanashi (talk) 16:00, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate articles

I just discovered duplicate articles: Ron Reynolds (Texas) and Ron Reynolds (Texas politician). I've never encountered such an issue before. What should I do? User:Orser67 created the first in November 2013, and User:Billy Hathorn created the second on December 12, 2014. Champaign Supernova (talk) 04:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

• I've tagged the pages with Twinkle proposing a merger. Please discuss on Talk:Ron Reynolds (Texas politician)#Proposed merge with Ron Reynolds (Texas). Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 04:46, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks! I just found another duplicate (Koni Burton and Konni Burton. I'm going to attempt proposing the merger myself. Can you let me know if I do it correctly? Thank you. Champaign Supernova (talk) 05:17, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Not quite, replacing the content of one article and redirecting it to the other isn't the way to merge them... I've reverted that edit and properly proposed the merge on the talk page. Please discuss on Talk:Konni Burton#Proposed merge with Koni Burton. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 06:20, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

In the case of the two articles on Konni Burton, they were created by the same editor on the same day, and are copy-and-pastes of each other. It appears that that editor doesn't understand how redirects work. In the case of Ron Reynolds (Texas), one of the two articles was similarly created as a copy-and-paste. I will try to explain to the editor who is creating copy-and-pastes. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:22, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

The editor has been notified. The problem is that we have a new and enthusiastic editor who doesn't know how to use redirects. Another editor and I have tried to explain that creating duplicate articles creates a lot of additional work. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:28, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone for your help. Champaign Supernova (talk) 17:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

For the reasons expounded above by Robert McClenon, merger is not necessary so I have just redirected Koni Burton to Konni Burton.--ukexpat (talk) 17:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

will there be any danger if the creatinine 4.5 in a patient stable for 2weeks? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.210.13 (talk • contribs)

This page is only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia. In any case, we can't (and shouldn't) offer advice on medical conditions. If you want to discuss content in a Wikipedia article, please use the article's talkpage. GermanJoe (talk) 08:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Treaty 8, bottom of page, regarding the native way of life

The oil sands have not made the animals and fish dangerous to eat due to contamination. I live up here. That would be a false accusation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.91.107.188 (talk) 17:43, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

You don't indicate what article you are referring to. Please discuss on the article talk page of the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

As the IP hails from Edmonton, Alberta, I suspect they are referring to Athabasca oil sands, specifically the phrase at the bottom of the article Treaty 8. However, regarding pollution, the statements in both Treaty 8 and Athabasca_oil_sands#Animals seem sourced to reliable sources - Arjayay (talk) 18:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Discuss on a talk page, Talk: Treaty 8 or Talk:Athabasca oil sands. If discussion fails, use dispute resolution. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:20, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

New Caution Template?

With reference to the duplicate articles mentioned above, where would I suggest that a new warning template be created that can be applied with Twinkle? This is a problem that I have occasionally seen before, creating copy-and-paste copies of articles rather than redirects. It isn't necessary in the case above, because the editor has been notified on his talk page, but it is likely to be useful in the future. The template should be relatively gently worded, because this behavior is done by inexperienced and enthusiastic editors. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:58, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Does the template {{Uw-c&pmove}} not work for you? --Jayron32 18:32, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

I now see it in Twinkle under single-issue notices. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:08, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Photo

How does one transfer this photo: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ficheiro:Meghan_Trainor_no_iHeart_Music_Festival_2014.png to this English Wikipedia? Tinton5 (talk) 20:10, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

• Please see WP:FFU. Happy editing! — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 20:47, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Wiet Huidekoper

Please help to remove the page about the working life of Wiet Huidekoper, as it contains false and untrue information, whilst leaving out the major achievements. For instance Wiet Huidekoper never designed for Formula One, whilst attributing failures that he had nothing to do with. This was obviously done maliciously and I do not recognise him or his work in this description. So please prevent the contributor "RedPenOfDoom" to reinstate the page every time and delta the page for once and for all. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.106.129.245 (talk) 21:52, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Care to explain why you're removing sourced content? —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 22:10, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Logging in

Iam a new user wanting to log in. The computer will not accept the temporary password I was sent or the password I asked for. Can you help?

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.107.216 (talk) 22:46, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

What is the name of your account? Ruslik_Zero 03:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

December 15

Administrator edit summary deletion requests

How can I request an Administrator delete or edit an edit summary to remove the name of a person who is semi-anonymous and would not be named in the body of an article on Wikpipedia? Omnibus (talk) 02:26, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I think WP:OVERSIGHT is what you're looking for. Dismas|^(talk) 02:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Creating a second article using my sandbox

Hi, I've written an article and this has been accepted. When I click on my "sandbox" I am redirected to the published article. How can I create a new article on a different subject and use my sandbox to do this? (Or is there some other way?) Thanks. Arjaysmith (talk) 02:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

On the redirected page, look at the top left of the page. You will see "Redirected from". Click on the link and you can edit the page. --  Gadget850 ^talk 02:41, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Avril Lavigne (album)

There's unreliable sources like hardrockhaven.net, guitarsweepstakes.com and Muumuse (see References section below). Somebody remove please. 183.171.181.213 (talk) 05:50, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Whenever you see an issue with a specific page, it's always best to just hit the "Talk" tab in the top left of the article and post a message there. You could also consider just being bold and remove the sentences/paragraphs that are sourced with these problematic sources yourself. Scarce2 (talk) 07:16, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

how to know if somebody replied to my questions in help desk?

how to know if somebody replied to my questions in help desk? i mean is there any notifications & also how to get that notifications to my email? Ram nareshji (talk) 06:18, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

@Ram nareshji: - The best way is to check back here within 48 hours after you posted your question. Other methods are people using your name, like I did, which will leave a red notification on the top of your screen next to your username. Click the red button. Some people will also inform you on your user talk page, which will also leave a red notification, and a message that someone edited your tal page. If you want these notification to also be by email, you can click at the top of your screen on the button "Preferences". Cick the section "Notifications". Here you can select for what type of message you want an email send, and you can save these changes by clicking the save button. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 06:29, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

U.S. Government work copyright

Hello. I am aware that works produced by the United States Government are, in most cases, not subject to copyright. Also, state government works are usually copyrighted. But what of works produced by the District of Columbia government? I'm wondering in general. However, the issue that brought this to mind was possibly adding a map of DC Streetcar proposed routes. DDOT has such maps on its website. (If they are copyrighted, I could probably draw my own.) Thank you.    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 08:19, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Lingaa

Lingaa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hello,

Below link from Wikipedia is actually owned by admin or private person, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingaa

i thought Wikipedia, allows "Anyone who can access the site can edit almost any of its articles", but why private pages are provided and with false information, request to administrators with useful links doesn't seems to be appearing and still the page claims with false information.

I would expect above page link should be made public and allow anyone to edit the information with possible links. not with private false information to be there.

Thanks, Siva Prakash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rheosiva (talk • contribs) 08:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

The article is not 'owned' by anyone - it is currently protected against editing by anyone except administrators due to persistent vandalism. If you wish to make a proposal regarding changes to the article, you can do so on the talk page. You should note however that article content should be based on published reliable sources. AndyTheGrump (talk) 08:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Can I get this uploaded?

Hi,

I would like to include this image http://www.google.com/logos/2011/hundertwasser11-hp.jpg on a wikipedia page - the point being that it was displayed by google.

Is this image permitted for that purpose?

Eileen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.55.212.31 (talk) 09:04, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

The image is almost certainly copyright, and accordingly almost certainly not suitable for use on Wikipedia. The only justification might be under fair use criteria - but that would require evidence that the image itself had been the subject of significant commentary, and inclusion in an article would likewise require that our article discussed it, rather than just used it. We would probably also have to reduce the resolution of the image. AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

There are already a number of Google doodles shown at Google Doodle. I don't see a reason to add yet another. Dismas|^(talk) 11:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

How can I work on multiple books at the same time

How can I work on multiple books (collections of Wikipedia articles) at the same time. If I am reading the instructions correctly, if you want to start a second book, you have to purge the first book you started. I am trying to assemble reference books for two courses that I am teaching. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fearey (talk • contribs) 15:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

@Fearey: Yes, if you are using the Book Creator tool, then you can only work on one book at a time. But the banner at the top of your saved books also has an option to edit the "Wikitext" of the saved book. If you click that, you will see that the formatting of the chapters and included articles is really rather simple. If you edit your books that way, you can edit several books at once in different tabs of your browser. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Naming conventions

Is there a wiki-rule that says that a unique page title should not also contain a country-name as a qualifier? For background please see: Category talk:Economy ministries#Moving non-country specific articles to country-specific. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 15:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

How do I unlink a Wikipedia page from appearing with a Google result? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.47.166.167 (talk) 15:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure that I understand the question, but from the heading it looks as if you saw a red error message in the reference list for Henry Moskowitz (real estate investor). This appeared because your edit today removed the reference where the ref name ArgoAbout was defined. (I don't know why you would do this, when the link still works and still supports the statement it was referencing). I suggest you revert your last edit and make a fresh edit for the change you want, without removing this reference: Noyster (talk), 16:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Per WP:NOINDEX, adding __NOINDEX__ will do the trick. However, it should not be; and does not; work in the article space. If you want certain websites from not appearing in your Google search results, this can be done by logging in to your Google account and going to http://www.google.com/reviews/t. However that service seems to have been discontinued, and provides a link to some Google chrome extension. --Fauzan^{✆ talk}_{✉ mail} 16:00, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Question About Questionable BLP

How do I deal with a posting, that only exposes a living person's dirty laundry, in a cascade of half-truths, in a way to purposely and misleadingly discredit that person? The structure of wikipedia seems to make this a legally daunting task, and not just a simple matter of user editing. Could I post a rebuttal page, that the authors of the original posting must link to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.69.240 (talk) 15:51, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

You don't state which article you are concerned about, so the answer can only be in general terms. Please look at our policy about articles on living people, which will show you that the course to take depends on references to reliable sources to support what the article says, and on the balanced presentation of what all the available sources say.

1. If the material you object to is unsourced (not supported by any reference cited in the article) then you are encouraged to remove it by directly editing the article.
2. If the case is less clear - the material is referenced but you doubt the reliability of the sources, or you consider that it is presented so as to misrepresent the balance of views published in reliable sources - then you may either comment on the article's talk page, or post to this forum where your concerns will be investigated by experienced editors. When posting to either of these venues, please remember to name the article, and sign your posts with ~~~~.
3. If the material you object to is supported by reliable sources and the article presents what all the sources say in a balanced way, then it must remain, regardless of your own opinion of the subject: Noyster (talk), 16:53, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the advice given by User:Noyster but will expand on it. Unsourced material in biographies of living persons should be removed. Wikipedia does not have "rebuttal pages". However, if there are issues about the facts, with differing facts cited by different reliable sources, the issue can be reported. It is best that any disagreement be discussed on the article talk page. That is what talk pages are for. As noted, disagreements about biographies of living persons should be taken to the BLP noticeboard to involve other experienced editors. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Citing out of print scientific book by Carnot and Kelvin by image and/or upload. Advice and guidance asked.

I would like to add content regarding Carnot Cycle and Reversibility. It already references the original work by Sadi Carnot, but does not list specifics. In some cases the existing content, although consistent with current textbooks, is not supported by Sadit Carnot's book, "Reflections on the motive power of heat", and in fact the original contradicts the article (and contradicts some material in physics texts). As the book is clearly the source for information cited as from the book, I would like to post a few pages as images, which show the correct quotations from the book. Also, the book was last printed in the 1800's, a version scanned from original may be found at www.archive.org, but there appears to be no way to create a direct link. One must go to archive.org and do a search.

My questions

A) Can I post scans of 3 to 5 pages from the book as images? As it is from the 1800's, copyright is long since past. I have found through experience that simply quoting the original is generally met with skepticism. I believe showing the original quotes in context alleviates that.

B) Can I upload or post the book in its entirety (a PDF scan of original document, which is also searchable). Although wikipedia is not an archive, the original book is not generally available anywhere.

The book is quite important as it is Sadi Carnot's only work, literally started the field of science of heat engines and of thermodynamics, and is co-authored by Lord Kelvin (Kelvin scale) The book is quite illuminating, and in many ways gives a clearer understanding of heat engines than modern texts. My thinking would be to upload it, and credit www.archive.org as the source.

I believe A) is within guidelines as copyrights are clearly expired. I find (for B) no posted way of uploading PDF, although perhaps the image upload may accept it.

As you may guess, I have not yet contributed wiki articles, although I have offered a few errata. — Preceding unsigned comment added by William A. Kelley (talk • contribs) 16:04, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

We don't cite sources, even out of print ones, by uploading scans - that would almost certainly be a copyright infringement. You should use the {{Cite book}} template, completing as many of the parameters (see Template:Cite book for the full list). Then anyone who wishes to, has enough details to locate the book in a library and verify that it supports the material for which it is being cited.--ukexpat (talk) 17:56, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

It is true that we don't upload scan of out of print works, but in the case in point that is not because of copyright. The works to which the OP refers were published in the nineteenth century and are in public domain. Other than that, I concur with the advice of User:Ukexpat. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

see also Wikipedia:Verifiability#Accessibility - the source does not have to be on line accessible (and someone's scans would not be any "better" verification as it is trivially easy to create a fake book and scan that) -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I am glad I asked. While copyrights have limited time, just as patents do, I want to stay inside the policy not just the law.William A. Kelley (talk) 18:37, 15 December 2014 (UTC) This is not just out of print. Everyone who wrote it died over a hundred years ago.

According to Wikipedia Term of protection[edit] Previous copyright law set the duration of copyright protection at twenty-eight years with a possibility of a twenty-eight year extension, for a total maximum term of fifty-six years. The 1976 Act, however, substantially increased the term of protection. Section 302 of the Act extended protection to "a term consisting of the life of the author and 50 years after the author's death."[6] In addition, the Act created a static seventy-five-year term (dated from the date of publication) for anonymous works, pseudonymous works, and works made for hire. The extension term for works copyrighted before 1978 that had not already entered the public domain was increased from twenty-eight years to forty-seven years, giving a total term of seventy-five years. In 1998 the Copyright Term Extension Act further extended copyright protection to the duration of the author's life plus seventy years for general copyrights and to ninety-five years for works made for hire and works copyrighted before 1978.

So the copyright ended some time before 1950, as both the authors died before 1900. It is definitely not a copyright law infringement. (I wrote this before the previous post. I agree it is public domain)

So, follow up of A), if the policy is never to show a scan even for non-copyrighted material, public domain material, are quotations allowed? Cited of course? Follow up on part B) The last publication of the book was around 1890, which was why I asked the upload question. It is not possible to locate in the library, except for a very rare book library. So it is unavailable to almost everyone except the electronic version.

And although one can point to a site that has it, it is somewhat clumsy and certainly not standardized as to how to reference it. I could place a copy on another web site, then a URL, but that seems odd, even though pointing to www.archive.org is basically that.

I came across this dilemma myself, when I first tried to follow this reference. It took me several days of searching to find anything but really fragmented text copies with all illustrations missing. Surely there is a better way to do this? (Because the book is not just out of print, its long past being in any libraries us mere mortals have access to.)

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

Hi I need help with the references for Walking With Our Sisters, the message I receive is that the reference name :0 was invoked but never defined. So I don't understand how to fix this problem. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amay542 (talk • contribs) 17:32, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Citing_sources explains how to cite sources in an article. Help:Referencing_for_beginners does the same, and is easier to understand.

I see that the article appears to be a copyright violation of this page, and have tagged it accordingly. You may be able to deal with the copyright violation by re-writing the article in your own words. Maproom (talk) 18:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Format

Where can I find an example outline of the format to write an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kc2015 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Please use the article wizard which is part of the articles for creation process. Thanks.--ukexpat (talk) 17:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Re-setting Password Help

I would like to get back into editing articles on Wikipedia, but have long since forgotten my password. On several occasions, I've tried using the "Forgot your password" link on the login screen. I've tried entering my Username, email address or both. I've never received a password reset email.

Advice? Ideas?

Thank you, Randy 65.130.196.16 (talk) 18:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)