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Thank you very much for yesterday! It was fab to meet you and I really learnt so much. I found it very useful and I can't wait to start getting more women on wiki. I hope to get my page completed soon. I'm sure I'll badger you with questions as I go along though. |
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Nice to meet you today the Wikimeet in London. Also good that you met John, a former Wikipedian in Residence (twice!) LoopZilla (talk) 17:04, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
lovely to meet you!
you were a welcome ray of light in the normally fairly staid meetup! Can't wait to see you next month :) Serendipodous 09:24, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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Good to meet you yesterday. Your PhD thesis looks interesting. I have been involved with Therapeutic communities and indeed started the page on John Rickman. Hope to get around to reading your thesis soon. Leutha (talk) 10:08, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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Congratulations on your new Residency! I'm so glad this partnership is flourishing. I've been at the WIR thing for about a year and a half now, so if you need anything, give me a shout and I'm happy to help. :) All the best, Keilana (talk) 14:06, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Alice, nice to meet you on Sunday. The image adding exercise I mentioned is at User:WereSpielChequers/image_adding creating similar ones for the Wellcome data should be possible if there is metadata that links them the way geocodes do. ϢereSpielChequers 15:41, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link, I've been clicking around and it's so clever! I was wondering if it would be possible to do something similar in terms of locating articles without images, but perhaps using categories (like this, or this) as the linking factor. Would that work? If it would, would it require a new bot, or is it something that existing scripts can be adapted to do? Thanks again for the example! Zeromonk (talk) 09:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Wellcome to the Jungle!
Hello Zeromonk, glad to hear the Wellcome Trust has a wikipedian in residence at last. Would any of the articles needed that I have listed at User:Duncan.Hull/Wellcome_Trust_Articles_Needed be in your remit at Wikipedian in Residence? Duncan.Hull (talk) 17:29, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Duncan! Thanks so much for the page and links - I had a meeting with Jonny the other week to talk about this. At the moment, we're just figuring out a) numbers and b) how best to do it (i.e., who to train and what training to provide so that the list continues to be maintained and updated after the residency finishes). When we get something planned, would you be interested in coming down, or in running some parallel editathons in Manchester? Either way, I'll keep you updated! Zeromonk (talk) 08:00, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hello Alice, great. Keep me posted, would be interested in what's happening in London and already organise editathons in Manchester too. Duncan.Hull (talk) 08:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks very much for that! I'll make some further clarifications when I've finished the CRU page I'm working on, to make it clearer how he was a pioneer. Zeromonk (talk) 09:14, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks so much Andy! Will do, that's really useful, thanks! Zeromonk (talk) 09:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
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Hi. Good to talk yesterday. Good fortune with the residency! Bondegezou (talk) 10:24, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! Lovely to put a face to a name, look forward to catching up in a couple of weeks! Zeromonk (talk) 12:15, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
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It was nice to meet you at the Wikimedia meetup today. Joseph2302 20:58, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
- Lovely to meet you too Joseph! Stay in touch! Zeromonk (talk) 15:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks for the introduction to Wikipedia editing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sally Horrocks (talk • contribs) 10:26, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello
Thankyou for helping me to set up my account. Fionasinclairstclair (talk) 13:17, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello & help
Hi Zeromonk
Thanks for your excellent tutorial today.
I think it would be very useful for me to be able to work on several Wiki entries at once before they go live. Can you tell me how to do this please.
many thanks Henrietta
HENRIETTA HEALD Writer and Editor henrietta@cloudesley.co.uk user name: henrietta999 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Henrietta999 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
New article
Hi Alice I've drafted a new entry for Peggy Hodges in user space and submitted for review - just checking this is correct! Ietlibarch (talk) 11:13, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Ietlibarch: Hi Anne, that's perfect! It should be reviewed by another Wikipedian soon - how exciting! Zeromonk (talk) 15:05, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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Copyright query
Hi Zeromonk
I need your help to upload an image to Wiki Commons. It is a photo of Caroline Haslett taken in the 1920s/1930s. There are no copyright issues, as far as I know. I've said it is not my work, but I am then asked to fill in a series of questions that baffle me. I know the source, IET Archives, but I don't know the author – can I leave this blank? And which option do I choose from the list below? Thank you. Please could you guide me thru the rest of the process. Thank you! Henrietta999 (talk) 11:00, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Henrietta, If the photo was taken in the 1930s then it could still be in copyright as the photographer could still be alive, or have died in the last few decades. It depends on where it was published and when. Wikimedia Commons would need the photographer to release the file under an open license or for it to be so old as to be in the public domain. You might be able to upload it under Fair Use. You could try asking at Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions or try reading Wikipedia:Plain_and_simple_non-free_content_guide. ϢereSpielChequers 15:06, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
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Hi good to meet youLed90 (talk) 12:39, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
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I'm struggling to see the subjects notability to be honest but didn't want to edit before asking you. Not sure how she passes WP:BIO Paste Let’s have a chat. 09:06, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Paste: Hi Paste, thanks for messaging me first! I should have added to the page/talk that she represented Britain and then Canada at the Winter Olympics (and was captain of their ski team in 1936), which I believe secures her notability. Her flying career is remarkable because of the sheer amount of experience she had - few pilots of either gender had flown so many hours or planes at that point in history. Zeromonk (talk) 09:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
- Great thanks, Olympics secures it. Regards Paste Let’s have a chat. 09:39, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
15th November
Hi, if you need me on the 15th November- I am happy to turn up, the cheap trains arrive at 10:04 at St Pancras- and I walk the last bit.(14 mins) I will see you on Sunday at any rate.
Looking at the Edit-a thon page- there are a few points to consider.
- No time given- often useful.
- If you offer to register users on the day you end up with three problems- our servers are configured to lock out ip-addresses that register more than 4 or 5 new users in a short space of time. You need to encourage users to register before hand to prevent this happening or to get a knowledgeable admin to talk to the techies to make an exception. Secondly new users are remarkably slow- and it all eats away at productive time. Thirdly, your role is subtly diverted from being the subject-expert 'qui encourager les autres' to a IT support techie.
- You direct new users to use VE- which is buggy and cannot be used on the talk pages, where they will spending a lot of time too. When a user asks for help- experienced users will be thinking in wikitext not VE.
Now on my User:ClemRutter/training#Booklets section you will find these:
If you want to customise them particularly to change the branding- it is simple to change the first and last page. They are all in multiples of four pages so you can double side print them as booklets.
I have put all the booklets onto commons as pdfs Commons:Category:Wikimedia UK training booklets. One important one is File:Individual skills training resource sheet package.pdf (odt) which gives you 50 sides of Howtos. It is on my to do list to translate each task into VE. ClemRutter (talk) 18:46, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
- @ClemRutter: Hi Clem!, thanks for taking the time to look over the details, and all the related advice for the event!
- I've just been confirming the times that people will be speaking so that I can get the time for the event pinned down - I'll be adding the schedule for the day to the page tomorrow.
- Thanks for the suggestion - I'll email participants and encourage them to set up an account before they show up.
- I usually start my tutorial with creating a user page (using templates for the more confident) and posting on another user's page (in source), before we move over to VE, so they should get an overview of both before beginning editing. For the sessions I've run so far, that seems to be enough to get people going.
- Thank you so much for the links to the guides, they look great! Look forward to seeing you at the weekend, and if you would like to come along, on the 15th you'd be very welcome! Zeromonk (talk) 21:02, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Are you still looking for people to assist tomorrow? If so, what time and where do you want us? I'm happy to help and KTC might be available too if needed. Thryduulf (talk) 13:56, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: We should have enough in terms of numbers, but you're very welcome to come along if you'd like to! The more editors the merrier. Or if Saturday's session is better for you, come along then! Zeromonk (talk) 20:26, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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New article, could this be a DYK?
I have made a start on Bexley Hospital. There is a lot of information online, so I will crack on soon. Still a very short article... LoopZilla (talk) 21:39, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks for messaging me @Diannaa: Sorry for the late reply - the page was made during an editathon by several people collaborating at one laptop - it was made towards the end of the day and I really intended to go home and work on it, but life got in the way a little! The page now appears to have vanished, so I can't make any improvements. Do you have any idea what happened to it? Thanks in advance! Zeromonk (talk) 13:46, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- The page History of Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland was turned into a redirect to Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland. All the history content is already in place on the article Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland, so there's no need to merge the two. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Ah, I see - I thought that some of the history material also originated elsewhere and was drawn together on the new page, as there were a few paragraphs' worth on the newer version, and there isn't that much on the existing page! Not to worry, I will make a section and add to the history content when I have the time, because what is on there is so sadly lacking, especially when compared to the history of the other UK nations' health services! Thanks so much for clarifying. Zeromonk (talk) 14:25, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
- The page History of Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland was turned into a redirect to Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland. All the history content is already in place on the article Health and Social Care in Northern Ireland, so there's no need to merge the two. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:54, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
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@Thryduulf, WereSpielChequers, Edwardx, Leutha, CyanoTex, Gordo, ClemRutter, Thisandthem, Geni, Redrose64, Joseph2302, and Philafrenzy: I have moved the discussion here.
This was first I had heard about this event. I have followed the link to Resources and I am none the wiser! But I have spent a lot of time revising my booklet which may be useful:
- Wellcome Library:Creating an Article- traditionally and with Visual Editor
(16 pages) print double sided or as a booklet
which is with the others on User:ClemRutter/training with
I am available to assist and can make Central London within 90 mins. There really does need to be a WMUK:London Education Network where these things can be alerted and discussed before they go live.
What do you want done- I can't find the page of articles in progress- or indeed any links to the articles considered. I looked at the Women in Red list 2016 (WIR2016)- but that is in plain with no links even though it says an article exists. Hasn't notability been cleared before the subjects were suggested. The column Justifies Article? on (WIR2016) is in most part blank?
What do you want us to do? ClemRutter (talk) 09:57, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Zeromonk, Sadly today I'm not free to join an editathon. I had a quick look at the list and I suspect that some of the individuals might seem marginal re notability. My advice for such articles would be to start in a sandbox and only move to mainspace when you have at least two independent reliable sources that give information on the individual and a clear assertion in the article as to their importance. If in doubt start with an article on whatever that made them famous. If you are around on Sunday I'd be happy to talk again as to how to promote such events to the editing community and the trainers list. I used to do that sort of thing when I worked for WMUK. ϢereSpielChequers 10:22, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Busy today, sorry. And it only got announced yesterday on the Women in red page, which isn't enough time to get editors to signup. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I'm also not able to assist today, sorry. With more notice I would probably have been more use. Thryduulf (talk) 10:36, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not able to assist. Beyond my knowledge. CyanoTex (talk) 10:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks Clem for getting back to me - it would be great if you could help tidy and maintain pages. I got asked to attend *very* recently and I'm not organising just helping out so I'm not sure on the details of the WIR list - they should have been screened for notability tho. Thanks for pointing out the lack of links, I'll add wiki links wherever I can in a bit. Some people are listed so they can be mentioned in relevant pages rather than having their whole page created too - there should be supporting trainers here to guide people in whether to do a new page or an edit in an existing page. Zeromonk (talk) 10:40, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- There's this http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/search/100Womenwiki assuming they have been tagged. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:46, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have added cross-wiki links to WTR2016 - but they appear blue when most should be red. What is the link to the edit-a-thon page where these problems are being flagged? ClemRutter (talk) 10:48, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Cross-wiki links are always blue. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- How democratic. --ClemRutter (talk) 12:38, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- Cross-wiki links are always blue. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have added redlinks to the English page- 100 Women (BBC) and re-read WP Notability which stresses that inclusion is based not on the notability of the individual, but on the available secondary source coverage. Here most of the women on the 100 Women (BBC) have multiple Google entries but most aren't valid as they refered to the Beeb having published their names. A better source to work from could be BBC World List which contains one line bios. Good luck! I look forward in taking part in the event post mortem. -- ClemRutter (talk) 12:38, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I have added cross-wiki links to WTR2016 - but they appear blue when most should be red. What is the link to the edit-a-thon page where these problems are being flagged? ClemRutter (talk) 10:48, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
- I will try to provide some intermittent remote help. Edwardx (talk) 12:45, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
So many thanks to you guys for any and all help and involvement - so sorry I wasn't able to reply earlier, I was plunged into some serious training and didn't even have time to pause for lunch! Look forward to seeing you all for a proper catch-up soon :) Zeromonk (talk) 20:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
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Wellcome? scan 2 or 3 book pages? "gruesome calculation"
Hello Zeromonk. I have never come across you before, I think... It seems your Visiting Scholarship at Wellcome has expired... but perhaps you can help me with a question. Executive summary: Can someone scan perhaps 2 or 3 pages of a book that seems to be at Wellcome? Very long explanation, skip if pressed for time: I usually go to WP:RX for such requests. I also already have over a hundred sources on the topic at hand, and some may think one more is overkill. But this one is quite special: perhaps only a page or three from Aykroyd, W. R. "The Conquest of Famine." London: Chatto and Windus (1974).
I've been working on a top-to-bottom sandbox rewrite of Bengal famine of 1943 for about ten months now (and still have a couple months left to go). I have little concrete discussion (just the academic equivalent of angry, vague accusations followed by silent scowls) regarding the possibility that the famine resulted in part from (or was exacerbated by) profit-driven hoarding or clandestine exports. I found in a footnote (I had never seen this mentioned before in the past ten months) that Aykroyd was a member of the Bengal Famine Commission 1945, and that "the Commission itself made what it called the 'gruesome calculation' that for every death in the famine roughly a thousand rupees of excess profits were made", which is cited to page 79 of Aykroyd's book. I have exactly zero access to this book, and believe me, I've tried.
I probably don't need info about any other aspect of the famine. [I'm sure if I had the entire book I could find other useful cites/quotes, but they would very probably cover details that I could also readily source elsewhere.] I really only lack anything substantial about the "blood money" accusation.
If anyone who has easy access to Wellcome's wonderful resources and scanning machines could get that book, skim/scan around page 79 (and maybe the index?) for discussions of large businesses profiting from the famine, and scan perhaps 2 or 3 pages (hopefully searchable/convertible to text), I would be in that person's debt. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 03:34, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- @Lingzhi: I'm still at Wellcome and am very happy to be able to help - I've sent you an email so that you can reply and I can forward you the scanned pages. Zeromonk (talk) 15:54, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
- A million thanks! I appreciate your time and effort! Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:22, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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Dear Alice
I need your help again. I have worked really hard to write a new entry on Margaret, Lady Moir. I think I have submitted it for approval, but how on earth does one know what's happened to it? And when will someone let me know? I've put a note on my own talk page, but don't know whether to expect a reply.
It's like sending something into the ether and never knowing whether you will see it again. All so disorientating!
many thanks Henrietta Heald Henrietta999 (talk) 17:04, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks for all the info Alice... had to get Sam to tell me how to leave you a message! Don't forget the Churchill letter to Ivens and co (Royaumont), when time allows. Many thanks for the most interesting training session I've been on in a long time! Meg Parkes (talk) 13:35, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks
Hello Zeromonk,
Thank you very much for yesterday! It was fab to meet you and I really learnt so much. I found it very useful and I can't wait to start getting more women on wiki. I hope to get my page completed soon. I'm sure I'll badger you with questions as I go along though. Thank you for your warm welcome (and cookies) too!