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Hello, Teahouse, I was just wondering whether, when editing a draft article, I could reuse the same link.-Thanks! Midshipman Percy (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC) Midshipman Percy (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Midshipman Percy. Can you clarify what you mean by link? Do you mean WP:WIKILINK, WP:EXTERNALLINK or WP:CITATION. — Marchjuly (talk) 09:05, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I was using external links from other pages not from wiki.-Thanks for answering! Midshipman Percy (talk) 09:08, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Midshipman Percy: Out of interest, did you know you have included this PubMed citation in your draft of a shoot 'em up software article? See WP:REFNAME for how to re-use a citation many times. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

PubMed? Must have been a mistake, thanks for telling me! Midshipman Percy (talk) 08:29, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Zinc sulfide

How can you separate Zinc Sulfide into its original elements using basic means? UB Blacephalon (talk) 15:54, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Blacephalon: The Teahouse is for discussing how to use Wikipedia. I think you want WP:RD. —[[[User:AlanM1|AlanM

(edit conflict) Hello, Christian Ficht and welcome to the Teahouse. I see that you have listed various exhibitions solo and group, where Krauss's work has been displayed. But that is not the same as having been added to the permanent collection of an institutio0n. And in any case, you have not yet included citations to sources that verify the exhibitions, and that Krauss's work was a "substantial part" of them. If there are independent sources that offer a critical assessment of his work, whether positive or negative, that would be very helpful. Note that sources do not have to be in English, nor available online, although both are nice. DES urple">1 (talk)]— 16:34, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Ahh thanks! Wrong place.... UB Blacephalon (talk) 16:52, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

alamy.com selling my photo and making a profit how to stop it

I noticed that alamy is selling a photo I donated to wikipedia and making it look as if I am selling this photo, but I am not selling it and I don't want to sell it. What is the relationship between wikipedia and alamy? I never used alamy before and I don't even have an account with them. They are scammers selling free photos? It says I am selling the photo for $19.00 for full digital rights. This is a complete lie. I refuse to sell my photo for any reason and I am embarrassed by this commercialism. Do all wikipedia photos become property of alamy? They will certainly be hearing from me about this, but I need to know where I stand before I confront them about this. Maybe someone else is selling the photo who also stole it? How can I remove this embarrassment? Ty78ejui (talk) 00:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ty78ejui: Can you provide a link to where this is happening? When you freely license your images (which is required to donate them to Wikipedia), you permit others to sell them, subject to certain conditions. (We can check if alamy.com is complying with those conditions if you provide a link.) But others would be pretty foolish to pay alamy.com for them, when they are available for free on Wikipedia. Calliopejen1 (talk) 00:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ty78ejui: Welcome to Wikipedia. There is no relationship between Wikipedia and Alamy. Whatever they are doing with the photo you uploaded here you will need to discuss with them. We can't offer legal advice. RudolfRed (talk) 00:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes here is the link https://www.alamy.com/carmelo-zito-image153128780.html This is a picture of my father and I give it freely. He was a Socialist and would not approve of this. If anyone was selling it, it should be me. Ty78ejui (talk) 00:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

(ec) @Ty78ejui: You might want to read Alamy#Criticism. I believe the second paragraph describes a similar situation. The key is that, in order for you to upload the image to Wikipedia (or Wikimedia Commons), you had to license it with a "free license", which allows re-use with attribution by anyone for any purpose, including selling it. If Alamy has properly cited the source, they are in the clear. Even if they haven't, it seems that, in the referenced case, Highsmith was unable to recover because she granted a similar free license to the LoC. I'm guessing that only the last licensor (in that case, the LoC) has standing, but this is just a guess, as I am not a lawyer (and not offering legal advice). As was said above, please do provide us with a link to the image in question both here and at alamy.com so that, if they are not properly following the license, the WMF can have a chat with them. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes I posted the link and here is again, maybe I should go into the photo itself and restrict the rights on it? Maybe it is a matter of I had selected the wrong settings for the photo? If I was just like a plant or a flower I would not really care, but its my father. https://www.alamy.com/carmelo-zito-image153128780.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ty78ejui (talk • contribs) 00:50, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Ty78ejui: Right – we were posting at the same time (ec = edit conflict). Changing to a non-free license (if it even lets you do that) would only result in it being deleted from Wikipedia (or Commons). As long as they grabbed it when it was freely licensed (which they did), you can't later reduce their their rights under that license. I don't see any attribution to Wikipedia, but perhaps someone more familiar with Alamy and these situations can comment about whether they have a license statement somwhere I am not seeing or whether the issue needs to be forwarded to the WMF copyright folks.

File:Carmelo Zito.jpg appears to be the Commons image at issue, which was uploaded in 2014 by Apriv40dj, who last edited in 2015. Is that your account as well? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I created the article and upload that and some other items. That was me. I am not sure I can get into that account anymore, due to the password situation. I am was not able to do a reset because I had not connected an email to that account. Ty78ejui (talk) 01:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

I have already contacted alamy by phone and email. They don't answer the phone and they have a voice mail in place. I will be following up with them. I don't know if they are going to ignore me because they do this all the time. They must have so many angry people wanting photos removed that they probably just ignore all messages. Ty78ejui (talk) 01:22, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ty78ejui. Once you release one of your images under a free license to Commons, you can't really go back and change or revoke the original license as explained in c:COM:LRV; so, trying to restrict the rights on it is going to mean that the file will end up being deleted from Commons; moreover, Commons doesn't really deal with c:Commons:Non-copyright restrictions and there will be no real acceptable way to try add such restrictions to a Commmons file that would still allow the file to meet c:COM:L. Since this file was uploaded to Commons, you might want to try asking about it at c:COM:VPC, but I think your probably get the same or similar answers to what you've gotten here. FWIW, nothing resolved in a Wikipedia or Commons discussion is probably going to be able to stop Alamy from doing what they're doing; you most like will need to find another way to do that. Maybe try contacting the Wikimedia Foundation directly here to see what they say. This is probably not the first time this type of thing has happened so perhaps the WMF can advise you on what might be possible in a case like this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:49, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

I notice that everyone is talking about licensing, but the image is tagged public domain. RudolfRed (talk) 02:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Ty78ejui the image File:Carmelo Zito.jpg is tagged as being in the public domain. If the photographer died more than 70 years ago, or if the picture was published in 1923 or before, that is correct under US law. Copyright law in other countries is similar, but details and dates differ. If the photo is PD, then anyone has the legal right to make and sell copies, although not to claim a copyright on them. Had it been uploaded under a valid CC-BY-SA license, reusing it without attribution would be a copyright infringement, but the Wikimedia Foundation would not be helpful here. The Foundation has long taken the position that individual contributors own their own copyrights, and are individually responsible for undertaking any legal actions needed to defend them. It defends only the various foundation trademarks and logos. I don't think anyone here or on commons will be able to help you. If you think the image is still under copyright protection, you would need to consult your own lawyer or adviser. If it isn't then reprinting it for a fee may be immoral in some eyes, but is perfectly legal. I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. Consult a lawyer for detailed legal advice. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 02:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

By the way, there are some problems with the image. It is listed on commons with a date of 2014, which seems to be the date of upload, no0t the date the photo was taken, and is listed as "own work" which cannot be accurate. That would be a claim that you took the photo, not that you scanned it or uploaded it.This should be corrected, with an accurate date for the photo given if possible. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 02:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Ty78ejui. RudolfRed is correct. The account you say is your previous account uploaded this photo as a public domain image in 2014. By doing so, you released all rights to the image, including the right of attribution of the image to you. Anyone can use public domain images anywhere for any purpose, including moneymaking ventures. I could start a company selling posters, coffee mugs, and T-shirts decorated with the photo of your father, and you can't do anything about it. I could modify the photo, colorize it or photoshop it into a group photo with other people and sell that too. The same thing is true of Alamy. That horse left the barn six years ago when you released the photo into the public domain. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Actually, Cullen328 that is not correct, at least not under US law. Under US law a work is in the public domain if its copyright has expired, or if it was never protected by copyright for any of several reasons (Federal government work, not an original work, etc) or copyright was not renewed (during the period when renewal was required, it no longer is) or if it was published without a copyright notice (prior to 1978). But no one can "release a work into the Public domain". If the copyright has not lapsed or been canceled by the operation of copyright law, it is not PD, although the copyright owner can give rights to a public entity, such as the Library of Congress, which will not enforce copyright, or can release the work under a free license.

If the designation of this photo as PD in 2014 was legally incorrect, then it is may be still under copyright, although it may be that a party who relied on the PD designation in good faith would be immune from more than nominal damages in a suit. The key questions would be:

1. When was the photo taken and by whom?
2. When did the photographer die?
3. When and where was the photo first published?

See this well-known chart for details. That is all under US law, if the photo was taken elsewhere the law of that country may apply. Alamy is apparently a UK company, so UK law may apply.

In any case a copyright suit is usually about economic damages, and in that case I wonder how much actual economic value this image has, which might well mean that a suit would cost far more to bring than it would possibly win. Ty78ejui please take note, and you might do well to consult a copyright lawyer if you wish to proceed. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 03:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC) @Cullen328: DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 03:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

DESiegel, my comment above was based on the assumption that Ty78ejui as the son of the person portrayed had inherited the rights to what he calls a "family photo". You are correct that the situation is murky if the photo was taken by a professional photographer or was previously published somewhere. Then, the date of publication and the death date of the photographer would be critical in determining its status. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:53, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Also, DESiegel, a copyright holder can voluntarily release an image or any copyrighted work into the public domain if they so choose, and it is done all the time. And copyrights can be inherited. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Cullen328, Copyrights can certainly be inherited, and can also be sold or given away. However, the person portrayed in a photo would not own the rights to the photo, the person who took the photo, whether a professional or not, would, initially. If that person was a member of the family, the OP might well have inherited the rights. But simply posting a statement describing a photo as in the public domain does not make it so, even if the person doing so is the copyright holder. Copyright duration is governed by 17 USC 301-305. Nothing in any of these sections provides for the ability of an author or copyright holder to dedicate a work to the public domain. Sections 203 and 303 provide that any copyright transfer or license may be terminated by the grantor(s) or their heirs, within certain time limits (for works created or published after 1978, from 35-40 years after creation or publication, for earlier works at a time related to the renewal date) and this right to terminate cannot be contracted away or disclaimed in advance. This would apply to a dedication to the public. Note that the intro to the Creative Commons Zero license says Dedicating works to the public domain is difficult if not impossible for those wanting to contribute their works for public use before applicable copyright or database protection terms expire. Few if any jurisdictions have a process for doing so easily and reliably. ... many legal systems effectively prohibit any attempt by these owners to surrender rights automatically conferred by law, particularly moral rights, even when the author wishing to do so is well informed and resolute about doing so and contributing their work to the public domain. In short, under US law, my understanding is that an author cannot effectively release a work into the public domain -- the most that can be done is to grant a free license without conditions to anyone, and even this may be canceled in the termination period. See also copyright office circular 15a: Duration of Copyright. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 06:10, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Actually I got some of that wrong. The article was created by a friend of mine who is big on Wikipedia because he felt it was a good thing to do, but I was the one who asked him to help with it. I don't mean to have said I was him, but I was the one who wanted the article created. Maybe some other person would have later done so, most likely, but this was in the earlier days of Wikipedia. There is more information about him at the UC Berkeley Library that has not yet been digitized transferred. I am hoping someone would be interested enough to research my father and add to his Wikipedia as almost all of it is in Italian and I don't read or speak Italian. Ty78ejui (talk) 12:12, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protection

Hello TeaHouse, how long will i have to wait before I can edit semi-protected articles, I started on the 22nd of June 2020.-Thanks! Midshipman Percy (talk) 08:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC) Midshipman Percy (talk) 08:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Midshipman Percy: One must have an account at least 4 days old and made 10 edits. You should get there in a few hours. 217.68.167.73 (talk) 09:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! I just wanted to add a couple of things to the Plague.-Thanks Midshipman Percy (talk) 10:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

My edit was blocked

I am new here and was attempting to edit an article for which I had made an image. The image is .png, and is 1Mb in size.

Upon deleting another image which mine was to replace, I got an error message which stated that there was something wrong, and I could follow several links to find out more. I followed a link but failed to find out what went wrong.

I then tried again, planning to follow another link to see if this would be more helpful. Instead, I was blocked as potentially malicious.

I am not malicious! I worked for a week to make a really educational image explaining the working of Stellar Parallax measurement in a quite improved way compared to what was visible on the page before.

Can anyone help me navigate to a solution?

Much obliged,

Peter PdeQuant (talk) 08:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi PdeQuant, welcome to the Teahouse. I see from [1] that you tried an upload method which has problems. Try commons:Special:UploadWizard instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you that worked! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_parallax

How to find valid source?

How to find a valid source? If I want to write a biography of a person or to write about an organization. Apart from it, how many things I have to disclose on talk page? Bloggerkratika (talk) 09:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

You appear to be attempting to create an article about your employer. This is a bad idea; please read and digest Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. (Unsurprisingly, your draft reads like a PR release.) Good sources probably don't exist.

If your primary purpose is to publicize your employer, please do so on some other website. If your primary purpose is to dispassionately inform readers, you are welcome to continue within Wikipedia, but please write about some other subject. -- Hoary (talk) 09:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

I got your point, but my motive is to inform readers about honey Katiyal and his great contribution for the real estate industry.

Courtesy: This is about Draft:Honey Katiyal, which has not yet been submitted for review. Bloggerkratika has declared a Paid relationship on own User page and on Talk page of the draft. In my opinion the tone is promotional and the references weak - for example, one is written by HK, another an interview. David notMD (talk) 10:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Bloggerkratika. I'm afraid that "to inform readers about XXX and his great contribution" is called promotion, and is fundamentally incompatible with the purposes of Wikipedia. Even if you try to be objective, if that is your purpose, it is going to be difficult for you to write sufficiently neutrally. But if you insist on going ahead, to partly answer your question, remember that Wikipedia is basically not interested in

• anything said, written, or published by Katiyal about himself
• anything said, written, or published about him his by employees, employers, relatives, or associates.

and that includes anything said in the course of an interview, or in a press release, even if these are published by somebody else. Wikipedia is only interested in what people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to write about them, and been published somewhere reliable. --ColinFine (talk) 10:46, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Bhaukal, Review

I have added many sources for the subject of this article. I think that would be enough. Will be added if more sources are required. Along with this, the subject of the article will also be extended. Review article. Thank you Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 09:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Arun singh Yaduvanshi, as you know your draft is already being in the process of being reviewed again, this can take up to days or weeks, no need to ask here because this will not speed up this process. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

To second that - Teahouse volunteers answer questions about Wikipedia. Reviewers are an entirely separate group of volunteers. David notMD (talk) 10:39, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

In case you can't read what it says in the box on the draft, it says: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 6 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,134 pending submissions waiting for review." --David Biddulph (talk) 10:42, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

A point to note here is that adding wikiproject templates to your draft’s talk page will increase your chances of a speedy review (no guarantee, but the first time I did that, my articles were approved in a day). RBBB9911Talk 12:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Introducing an indigenous language

How can I introduce an African indigenous language in Wikipedia? Mmaua (talk) 10:57, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Mmaua: Do you mean creating a new article about an African language that does not have its own article yet? If so, see Help:Your first article. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 15:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

how to write an article about the organisation?

how do I start writing an article about the organization? Bloggerkratika (talk) 11:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

You essentially got answers to this question above, please do not create additional sections for similar questions. 331dot (talk) 11:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

The answers about the organisation are essentially the same as the answers about the leader, Bloggerkratika, including about your purpose. It is possible, that the organisation is NORG notable (and an article could in principle exist) but the founder is not; or the other way round. Or they might both be notable. If they are, it is likely that some of the sources will work for both, but not all, --ColinFine (talk) 12:06, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks -ColinFine

Approval of draft

Please someone should help me in approving my draft for review Draft:2020 Kansallinen Liiga, I submitted it 9 days ago but I need it to be reviewed and approved for easier updates. My last article for review didn't take up to 5 days before it was reviewed and approved. I'll be grateful if the administrators can make it quick, it's difficult for me to search for the draft then update it since the article is an ongoing event.   Josedimaria (talk)11:40,26 June 2020 (UTC).

Josedimaria237 Drafts are reviewed in no particular order by volunteers(not just administrators); it theoretically could take five minutes, or five months. There is no way to know for certain, though it usually takes a few weeks. As noted in the submission template, "This may take 6 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,129 pending submissions waiting for review." Efforts to "jump the line" like this don't usually work. You will have to be patient. There shouldn't be any need to search for the draft if you have watchlisted it, it should appear in your watchlist, it also appears in your contribution history. 331dot (talk) 11:39, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

331dot As soon as I posted this, I received a notification immediately saying it has been reviewed but the sad thing is that the article is an existing article but however it's a blank article. I was told to improve the existing article whereas when I created and submitted mine that existing article hadn't been created, now should I delete the Draft:2020 Kansallinen Liiga or should I convert the existing article 2020 Kansallinen Liiga to a redirect?

Are you referring to Kansallinen Liiga? If that article needs work still, you are welcome to edit it. You can tag your draft with a user request delete if you wish. 331dot (talk) 11:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

331dot Thanks, I'll do that now

Josedimaria237 (talk) 11:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Alphabetic code

When readers search for "alphabetic code" they are brought to Federal_Reserve_Bank#Banks, applicable to only a narrow range of readers. I would like them to go to phonics#The alphabetic principle (also: The alphabetic code), a world-wide topic. I would then add a hatnote about Federal_Reserve_Bank#Banks.

I have looked at Help:Disambiguation but still don't know what to do.

Can you help? John (talk) 14:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Jnhmunro and welcome to the Teahouse. Actually a search for "alphabetic code" produces a list of articles where the two words are used adjacently or in close proximity, with Alphabetic principle first on the list (and that article links to Phonics). It is true that Federal_Reserve_Bank#Banks is the only search suggestion, but if the user dowes not accept that, the full list of results appears.

WP:DAB says: Disambiguation is required whenever, for a given word or phrase on which a reader might search, there is more than one existing Wikipedia article to which that word or phrase might be expected to lead. In this situation there must be a way for the reader to navigate quickly from the page that first appears to any of the other possible desired articles.

It would be possible to create Alphabetic code as a Disambiguation page, listing several possible articles about meanings of this phrase, but I am not sure that it is a good idea. The current search results find several relevant pages. Is there reason to think this is a frequently searched term? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:39, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

I created the redirect Alphabetic code → phonics#The alphabetic principle (also: The alphabetic code). Redirects are cheap and there is no need that they be used frequently to justify their existence, so the redirect is a strict improvement over a redlink. It might be that the reader would be better-served with a full-fledge article or a disambiguation page; I do not have enough familiarity of the topic to know that. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:49, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jnhmunro and Tigraan: Should the redirect destination of Alphabetic code be Alphabetic principle instead? From both articles it seems as if the two phrases are synonymous. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 15:56, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jnhmunro, Tigraan, and Ganbaruby: I have converted this to a DAB page, with Alphabetic principle as the first entry. If this were to be a redirect instead, i agree that Alphabetic principle would be the better target. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks to all. Alphabetic code is used by teachers and gets many more results in a Google search. Alphabet principle is used by linguists. I will consider writing an article about alphabetic code for all the teachers out there. John (talk) 16:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

If you do that, Jnhmunro, please retain the DAB page I created, either making your new article at something like Alphabetic code (Education) or else moving the DAB page to Alphabetic code (disambiguation), and of course in either case adding your new article to the DAB page. Thanks. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:00, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

how are you

 41.113.110.21 (talk) 14:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 14:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Eames chair

Can you add a picture of the famous Charles Eames chair to the Charles Eames page? 174.21.44.151 (talk) 15:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP Editor, and welcome to the Teahouse. The chair is not currently mentioned in Charles Eames, do you have any sources to cite about it? Do you know of a freely licensed picture of the chair, or could you take one yourself? This could all be discussed on Talk:Charles Eames. You can't upload a file directly without creating and logging into an account, i believe, but you could use Wikipedia:Files for upload. Wikipedia strongly prefers freely licensed images, and will only use non-=free images under quite limited circumstances. And in general any image in any article should help thye reader understand the subject better, not just serve as decoration. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Eames Lounge Chair (Assuming you mean this one)

Hi, IP editor, and welcome to the Teahouse. No, you can’t do so, if you are talking about the aforementioned chair, because there is already a picture of it on Charles and Ray Eames. If you have a better picture, then you probably can replace the old one with your picture. RBBB9911Talk 15:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

I've just added a picture of it to Charles Eames. I hadn't realised that there was another article, Charles and Ray Eames. Maybe the two articles need to be merged, but I'm not competent to do that. Maproom (talk) 15:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

.. and the latter article shows two very different chairs. Please feel free to revert my addition. I'm out of here, before I make things any worse. Maproom (talk) 15:34, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

I see that Charles Eames was split out of Charles and Ray Eames. about a year and a half ago, but oddly does not currently contain a link to the latter article. There is currently nothing in the article about what char is THE Eames chair, it seems that he designed a number of chairs. More sourced info would probably help. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 15:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Maproom and DESiegel: I left a note at Talk:Charles Eames#Wrong chair. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

problem with a submission

problem with a submission

Dear all, I am italian and new on english wikipedia. I tried to post just a translation about a italian page (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trieste_Contemporanea) I need to understand how to publish it also in english.

Thank you in advance

maluto2020 Maluto2020 (talk) 15:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Maluto2020: Have a look at WP:TRANSLATE. Note that the english and italian wikipedia are seperated projects with different rules, so the existence of an article in one language doesn't gurantee that it will be kept in others as well. I dont speak italian, but from what I can guess the italian version lacks reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your anser but I don't understand what is the meeining or lacks of reliable source. I add Cei (The Central European Initiative (CEI) was founded in Budapest on 11 November 1989. It is a regional intergovernmental forum committed to supporting European integration and sustainable development through cooperation between and among its Member States and with the European Union, international and regional organizations as well as with other public or private institutions and non-governmental organisations. While acting as a platform for political dialogue, the CEI has developed a strong operational, result-oriented approach to regional cooperation. It combines multilateral diplomacy and fund, programme and project management as both donor and recipient. The everyday CEI activities are handled by the CEI-Executive Secretariat in Trieste, including the development and implementation of projects.) and also an important link to Gillo Dorfles (Born in Trieste to a Gorizian father of Jewish descent[2] and a Genoese mother, Dorfles graduated in medicine, specializing in psychiatry. He was a professor in aesthetics at the University of Trieste, Milan and Cagliari and, in 1948, established the MAC (Movimento per l'arte concreta) with artists Atanasio Soldati, Galliano Mazzon, Gianni Monnet, and Bruno Munari. His paintings were displayed in two personal exhibitions held in Milan in 1949 and 1950 and also in numerous collective MAC exhibitions in the 1950s. In 1956 Dorfles co-founded the ADI (Associazione per il disegno industriale) an important figure of Trieste. maluto2020 Maluto2020 Thank you for your suggestion.

Hello, Maluto2020. Draft:Trieste Contemporanea currently cites only one source, the web site of CEI Venice Forum for Contemporary Art Curators. This does not go into any detail on what the Trieste Contemporanea is and does, so it does not constitute significant coverage. In any case, even if it did, it is from an affiliated organization, as I understand it, so it may be a reliable source but it is not an Independent source. The draft should cite several sources that are reliable, independent, and include significant coverage of the Contemporanea, to demonstrate organizational notability. Does that help explain the situation her on en.Wikipedia a bit? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

ARTICLE CREATION

How do I start creating a new article and losting it on Wikipedia? McOREAL (talk) 15:57, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@McOREAL: See Help:Your first article. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 16:03, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

McOREAL I would advise you that successfully creating a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. It takes much time and practice, and if you dive right in without at least a basic understanding of Wikipedia and the process of creating an article, you will set yourself up for disappointment and grief as your work is mercilessly edited and even deleted by others. I don't want you to have bad feelings, so I would strongly advise you to first spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, (for weeks if not months) to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. It's also a good idea to use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia.

If you still want to attempt to create a new article, you should read the page suggested by Ganbaruby and then visit Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by another editor before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia. This way you find out any problems first. 331dot (talk) 16:16, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

what if my editing is a little bit wrong

 Createinspire (talk) 16:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Createinspire Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Honest mistakes or minor errors can easily be corrected by yourself or another editor- and as long as you learn from your mistakes and change going forward, that's fine. 331dot (talk) 16:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

will wikipedia charge money i my editing is wrong grammaticaly  Createinspire (talk) 16:38, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Createinspire Wikipedia will not charge you money for anything at all. I have moved your question to the section of this page you made earlier; if you have follow up comments, please edit this existing section. If you create a new section, remember to type your question in the larger edit window and not the smaller section header window. 331dot (talk) 16:40, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Article Thumbnail in Search Results

How can I add or change the photo thumbnail of an article that appears next to its short description in places such as search results in the mobile app? Idell (talk) 16:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

@Idell: Welcome to the Teahouse! Could you please give an example of an article whose thumbnail you would like to change? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 00:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

GoingBatty, Jinnah (film)! Idell (talk) 05:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Idell: I see that Jinnah (film) has had an image in the infobox for over a year, but the iOS mobile app doesn't show a thumbnail in the search results. I tried posting a question on your behalf on #wikimedia-mobile ^connect but received no response. You could try one of the other contact methods mentioned at Help:Mobile access. GoingBatty (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Could someone else here help me with this? Idell (talk) 20:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Idell: I don't know how the mobile apps work but it appears you have never edited with them so maybe you just mean the mobile version of the website. It uses mw:Extension:PageImages#Image choice to automatically choose the image. It's possible that non-free images like most film posters will be omitted in search suggestions. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: I understand the difference between the mobile app and the mobile website. I just prefer to use the mobile or the desktop version of the website for editing. Jinnah_(film)?action=info does show the film poster as the Page Image. Idell (talk) 07:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Idell: Yes, it's the page image but it's not marked as a free image by the extension. Compare page_image in [2] and page_image_free in [3]. Some features which use the page image may only allow free images but I don't know the details. File:Jinnah movie poster.jpg is non-free so it has a different license which limits allowed use. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:47, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Difference between article accepted from draft and reviewed?

Hi,

I submitted a draft article and it was accepted in mainspace but not marked as reviewed (article Scantrust). However another article that I had submitted as a draft was simultaneously accepted and marked as reviewed by the same reviewer.

It seems that I was under the wrong impression that if I submit an article through the drafting and reviewing process and it gets accepted, then this implicitly means that the article was also reviewed. So I am trying to understand if this is usual, and if accepting an article and reviewing an article 2 separate actions? Many thanks, Factfox (talk) 16:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC) Factfox (talk) 16:30, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Factfox Yes, those are two separate things. The 'reviewed' that you mention refers to marking the page as checked by another editor, this enables search engines to index the article. This is a separate process so that articles directly created by users(and not through Articles for Creation/ the draft process) get checked. 331dot (talk) 16:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

331dot Thank you for the quick and clear response, I appreciate it. Just a follow-up question: since the review process is intended primarily for articles that are directly created by users, do you know if this normal that my article was accepted but not reviewed? Thanks again, Factfox (talk) 17:06, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

That normal. Not all those reviewing drafts will take the step and mark the new article as 'reviewed', possibly so some other eyes look at it. New page reviewers will do that. 331dot (talk) 17:13, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Note also, not all AFC reviewers necessarily have the WP:NPP permission to do it even if they would if they could. Usedtobecool ☎️ 17:36, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you 331dot and Usedtobecool, it's all clear now! Factfox (talk) 18:17, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

will my account be deleted after 365 days

 Createinspire (talk) 16:45, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Createinspire Nope, Wikipedia accounts are never deleted. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

when i created my account it was showing that save my 365 days so will happen after that  Createinspire (talk) 16:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

That refers to how long you will remain logged in if you check that box, on the 366th day you will just need to log in again. Again, type your question in the larger edit window, please, not the smaller window which is for edit summaries or section headers. If you are using the mobile version in a browser you may find it easier to switch to the desktop version on your phone. 331dot (talk) 16:55, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

First article - I'm probably not doing this right!

Hello! I am new here and am grateful that Teahouse is a resource within Wikipedia as it looks as if this is the place I can ask the "stupid questions" I'd been so fearful to ask! I am creating a wikipedia page for a colleague (a university professor and researcher) and I am confused in terms of the conflict of interest. I have somewhat read about the conflict of interest but I am still unsure of how to go about disclosing the COI. I've created the page in my sandbox, but have not yet published as a draft. Is there any guidance you can give on COI; how I should disclose, if I can even create this page or if I should have someone else submit the draft for review? Any guidance you can provide is greatly appreciated. I admit I have read through many, many pages looking for guidance and have fallen defeated and overwhelmed with all of the information provided (no complaints there). I understand from some of the posts I've read that Teahouse cannot provide specific answers, but I will take whatever you all can provide. Thank you so much, in advance. Jessica Washington (talk) 17:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Jessica Washington Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You seem to be aware of it but I'll link to the conflict of interest policy just in case. There are templates that can be used to declare a COI, but a simple statement on your user page or user talk page is usually sufficient.

If you are employed by your colleague, you will need to make the stricter paid editing declaration. It doesn't sound like you are, but I thought I'd mention it.

You have no edits logged under your account so I assume you have not saved the draft yet. "Publish changes" should be understood to mean "save changes", it does not mean "publish this to the encyclopedia". It used to say "save changes" but was changed to emphasize that all saved edits are visible to the public(even drafts) whether or not the page is an encyclopedia article. I might suggest that you use Articles for Creation to create and submit your draft. 331dot (talk) 17:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

SOS

Hi Nyook that was my kid he was just on my pc and edited the page. 82.26.45.170 (talk) 19:39, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Made SOS a new question (?), as it appeared to have nothing to do with Jessica. 82.26.45.170 has made a total of three edits - all today - all vandalism - all reverted. David notMD (talk) 20:27, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

and Nyook was the editor that rolled one of them back. --ColinFine (talk) 22:35, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:My little brother did it" is an essay that is sometimes worth reading. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Please help me

I am not very good when it comes to computers. I had a great side bar, if that is what you call it, that shows in basket, trash, sent, all mail, etc. I keep everything there under their names. I don't know how I did it but I was in all mail and somehow deleted absolutely everything that was stored there including my medical charts, home and auto insurance information, etc. My life basically. I must have hit delete somehow and now everything is gone, no conversations left, just the title of the files. I am in a real mess. Does anyone know how to retrieve this information and put it back where it belongs? Please, anyone, help me. Alice 2600:8800:7B00:FF3:9D67:A143:9922:C7AD (talk) 00:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

First check the recycle bin. - than, if that doesn't work, go onto youtube (if you still have it) and type in your problem to get helpful videos. That's all I know.PMurthy1011 (talk) 01:10, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Alice, this help desk is for questions related to editing Wikipedia; for your query, try the computing reference desk. For future reference, this is why you should always make sure to back up vital information. M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 01:41, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion

Hi guys, May I please know how I can nominate an article for deletion?PMurthy1011 (talk) 01:08, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@PNSMurthy: Welcome to the Teahouse! See Wikipedia:Guide to deletion. GoingBatty (talk) 01:38, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Also, how may I create a new sandbox for an article?-because my original one already has one.PMurthy1011 (talk) 01:57, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't quite understand' but if you're wondering how to create a second sandbox, then click on User:PNSMurthy/Sandbox2 and start using it. (If you don't like the address, then change it; but it should be User:PNSMurthy/Something-or-other .) -- Hoary (talk) 02:38, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks man!PNSMurthy (talk) 04:53, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

significance of the Mayan number 13

the revelance of turtles w/ 13 scutes, marsupials w/ 13 tits and the Mayan calender beginning w/ 13 Bakus Bigcocomo (talk) 02:14, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

What help in using Wikipedia are you asking for? -- Hoary (talk) 02:35, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Sup y’all just got an account wanna edit but have no clue about referencing??

 Loco j Mazaray (talk) 02:21, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Then read Help:Referencing for beginners. -- Hoary (talk) 02:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Loco j Mazaray: ... or WP:ERB. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Sir I am still a educaing school student at class 9 am i allowed to do editing at this age

 Createinspire (talk) 04:24, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, certainly. You might find, depending on where you are at school, that editing from your school may not be allowed, but we have no age limits that I am aware of. HiLo48 (talk) 04:31, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Createinspire: I'd recommend that you read Wikipedia:Guidance for younger editors, which has some good advice. Calliopejen1 (talk) 04:36, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Creation of Table

Hi fellow Wikipedians,

For creating a table, is there any alternative to html format, like copy & paste ?? Thanks in advance. ANUPAM DUTTA 05:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anupamdutta73 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Anupamdutta73 Welcome to Teahouse, i suggest copy paste formats from other articles can help us in learning. For example using this code

{| class="wikitable" |- style="background:#cfc; text-align:center;" |'''Serial''' |'''Name''' |'''Age''' |'''Residence''' |'''Notes''' |- |Serial 1 |Name 1 |Age 1 |Residence 1 |Notes 1 |}

Creates

Serial	Name	Age	Residence	Notes
Serial 1	Name 1	Age 1	Residence 1	Notes 1

For more you can visit MOS:TABLE . In the above code you can replace things of head in """ commas and Content with your thing. Further, you can expand it by replacing the |} with |-. But don't forget to end it with |}. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 06:24, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Anupamdutta73 If your table is not very complicated, VisualEditor will create one for you. Simply go to Insert > Table and a basic table will be inserted. The table can be customized with the "Properties" button beneath it. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 14:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

TheChunky, I strongly support the use of visual editor. I create a number of tables, and that's usually what I use. S Philbrick(Talk) 22:06, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Sphilbrick Well, it is also good. But I am mobile user, so I found the code way is easiest way. ☺️ And I use codes. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 00:14, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

TheChunky, If it works, great. I can't imagine doing tables on a mobile. Whatever works for you, but I know may editors eschew VE because it had some problems early on, so I wanted to make sure editors know that VE works well for basic tables. S Philbrick(Talk) 00:17, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Anupamdutta73: Please see Help:Table for a better standard example (with correct header markup, etc.). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Anupamdutta73: Please also see User talk:Anupamdutta73#Signatures. Your signature makes people do extra work to figure out how to WP:PING you because it does not show your actual username, nor does it link to your user or user talk page, a requirement of WP:CUSTOMSIG. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Pls tell how to insert signature template

 INSTALKER (talk) 06:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Dear @INSTALKER, you just have to add 4(four) tilde sign [ANUPAM DUTTA 06:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)] at the very end after a blank space and voila you are done... Cheers ANUPAM DUTTA 06:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

INSTALKER Welcome to Teahouse, if you are talking about userpage signature, then you just have to put ~~~~ at last of your message here, and it creates a signature like mine at last of my reply. If you are talking about signature template in a biography article, then see Template:Bio . — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 07:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

If you want to edit your signature you can visit Preferences setting and change it there. — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)}

Links in blue

If you check the article 2019–20 Nigeria Professional Football League for instance, you'll find out that at the topscorers list, only two of the players there are actually articles on Wikipedia, whereas all of the players there are written in blue but when you click on them, you'll find out they are all blank articles, this is the third time I'll be seeing something like this on Wikipedia recently.

The other players which aren't articles on Wikipedia are supposed to be in red but they're written in blue, why?

Even my user page is in blue, while there's no user page on Wikipedia with the name Josedimaria237,it used to be in red. Josedimaria237 (talk) 08:28, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi Josedimaria237. It's a recent error which only affects the mobile version of Wikipedia. The "Desktop" link at the bottom gives correct red links. It has been reported at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Red links are shown as blue in mobile version and phab:T256503. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:43, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Two writers, one publication?

Hi,

I am currently gathering my sources for an article I hope to write for Wikipedia, I have several other sources, however I have noticed that two writers who write for the same publication (the publication is already seen as a reliable source by Wikipedia- other articles use the publication as a source) have published articles on the subject of the article, does Wikipedia see this as ok? I just don't want my article to be shut down due to this one thing. BekoGloben (talk) 12:24, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I find this all quite confusing. What is the subject of the article you hope to write? What is the name of the publication you refer to? What are the two articles you mention? If you want to write an article on Mayomyzon pieckoensis, and two people have already written about it in the Journal of Ichthyology, there should be no problem at all. But the lack of details in your question makes me suspect that it's more complicated than that. Maproom (talk) 13:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Disambig and See Also policy

Are there any specific policies regarding disambiguation page links in see also sections? I couldn’t find any at WP:MOS. Firestarforever (talk) 12:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

It's hard to imagine why you'd ever want to link to a disambiguation page in a "See also" section. But I suppose there might be a reason. Maproom (talk) 13:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Firestarforever: MOS:SEEALSO actually prohibits disambiguation page links in the see also section. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 14:12, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Draft Shamsher Singh (Journalist)

Hello! I want to get a feedback on the article and some suggestions to improve it. If you think that no improvements are required then please help me by Approving the article. It has all references and is properly linked to other Wiki pages. SinghPurnima72 (talk) 13:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC) SinghPurnima72 (talk) 13:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Teahouse editors are not draft reviewers. Asking for a review here does not get you a review. Draft:Shamsher Singh (journalist) was submitted 13 days ago. As clearly stated at the top of the review template, reviewing may take six weeks or more. David notMD (talk) 13:39, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

While waiting, the section Early life needs references, as does his being with Asian Age. David notMD (talk) 13:47, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

How would you add a monthly page to a dynamic list?

Hello, I want to add to List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States; the list is organized into monthly lists, i.e. List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States, May 2020 how would I go about adding a month to the dynamic list? Like a page for January or a page for July? Do I just create a page with that name format and the dynamic list will automatically know it's there? Eric.c.zhang (talk) 14:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Eric.c.zhang, and welcome to the Teahouse. No there is nothing automatic here. Indeed the list isn't really "dynamic" in any meaningful sense. It is just split up into sub-lists by month. To add a new month, one would ahve to create the new list article, and then edit the table in the overall list to add a link to the new page. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Eric.c.zhang: Specifically, you would add a cell to Lists of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States#Lists of killings, but I'll note that the table is already complete back through 2009, and then back through the 19th century at List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States prior to 2009. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

There's also a matching navbox at {{Lists of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States}}. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Eric.c.zhang: Those tables do actually use automation in templates to detect articles for some years. If you make an article and it doesn't show up after purging the list then come back with a link to the article. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:34, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Question about editing disputes

Hi there,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question. I've been editing wikipedia for years, mostly small edits and copy edits, but I've never been involved in a dispute. I'm aware of the 3 revert rule and the general guideline to try to resolve disputes using talk pages rather than edit warring.

I guess I'm looking for some general advice on how to approach another editor who has made a large number of very poorly written and badly sourced contributions to otherwise high quality articles. Some of the additions were factually correct, new info, from good sources, but out of place or lacked context. Others were explicitly incorrect or came from random websites that could not be construed as reliable. I tried reverting and explaining my rational on the talk page, but the other editor just reverted everything back. I know many high quality articles have one or a few editors who actively patrol them. I'm not sure if I should wait for one of them to step in here, or what the next step is. Any tips?

P.S. As an example, one source cited was www.ecigarette-politics.com, which notes on its about page "I am not sympathetic to any restrictions on EV-related products of any type, except quality controls as existing for example in normal EU consumer product regulations; nor to EV businesses or groups who support any such restrictions. E-Cigarette regulations cost lives." This is very clearly an advocacy organization with an obvious slant, and as such I don't think it could ever be considered a reliable source of info (except about itself). Wallnot (talk) 15:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy: From looking at your contributions, the articles in question appear to be Nicotine, Nicotine dependence and Cannabis (drug), and the editor in question User talk:Machinexa. You have correctly started discussions on the appropriate talk pages of those articles, and left messages on the talk page of Machinexa. If this cannot be resolved by those methods, come back to Teahouse and ask for what next steps are. David notMD (talk) 17:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

In reviewing the changes to Nicotine and Nicotine dependence by Machinexa, I came to the conclusion that many/all of the references provided in support of the text changes did not meet WP:MEDRS, so I reverted the article to a point before Machinexa's first edit. David notMD (talk) 17:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks so much for your help with this. In the future, if another editor is not willing to try to come to a consensus via discussion on the talk page, where should I go from there? Wallnot (talk) 17:47, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Wallnot. Dispute resolution should answer your question. --ColinFine (talk) 19:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

My History before I established a User page

Hi There. I had been contributing for several years as franburke2 before recently setting up a User page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Franburke2 but none of my prior edits are recorded - can they be added or have they disappeared (they used to be visible)? Thanks. Franburke2 (talk) 16:10, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Franburke2: I can see your previous edits at Special:Contributions/Franburke2. Can you not? Deor (talk) 16:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Franburke2: I can also see them. TheAwesomeHwyh 16:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Franburke2: Might this just be a misunderstanding? Your prior edits are called "contributions", and may be viewed per the link provided by Deor. Perhaps you were looking at your user page, and clicked on "History" from there. That would display only those edits made to the user page. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 17:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

I suspect that Traveling Man may be correct. If you want to see your contributions, just click on "contributions" at the very top of any page when you're logged in. Deor (talk) 18:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Furries

Hi,im a furry,im just curious if furries are allowed to edit Wikipedia... •-• i know this is a stupid queston...*inches away* Outcastcat (talk) 18:33, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Outcastcat: Welcome to Wikipedia. We don't care what your hobbies are. Anyone may edit Wikipedia. RudolfRed (talk) 18:34, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

If you are sharing a keyboard, remember to vacuum loose hairs when you are done. And perhaps visit Furry fandom. David notMD (talk) 21:17, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

What is WP:merds? I m not understandiing it

WP:merds says something related to medicine shouldn't be included. I don't know what. Can someone show with exampe how merd.applies? Machinexa (talk) 18:43, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

• https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Machinexa (talk • contribs) 18:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Machinexa: Welcome to the Teahouse! I see some of your recent edits to the Nicotine article were reverted by David notMD, who stated that the references do not meet WP:MEDRS. As part of the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle, the best place to start the discussion would be the article talk page: Talk:Nicotine. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 18:50, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Machinexa MEDRS is short for Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine). It specifies the required source quali8ty for medical information in Wikipedia articles. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 20:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

For example, I reverted your additions to the cannabis article because the text you added was supported by refs that were in vitro work, animal studies or individual human trials. David notMD (talk) 20:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Agege Kingdom was founded by Olabua Ohunfa in 15th centuries.

Who is the founder of Agege [founder of Agege Kingdom] Atlando (talk) 19:10, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

@Atlando: Welcome to the Teahouse! This is a place to ask questions about editing Wikipedia. If the Agege article doesn't give you what you're looking for, you might want to try the Wikipedia:Reference desk. Good luck! GoingBatty (talk) 19:14, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Links in blue 2

Please the Wikipedia administrators should find something to do about this issue of links in blue that are supposed to be in red. It's affecting editing, if not for others but for me.

Thanks Josedimaria237 (talk) 21:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Josedimaria237 You have already asked about this, and received an answer at the #Links in blue section above. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:58, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Incidentally, being a Wikipedia administrator (i) has nothing to do with technical issues and (ii) is unpaid. So Wikipedia administrators have at least two reasons for being under no obligation to do anything at all.

If you want to write yet more about this, then please do so here, not in yet another new thread. -- Hoary (talk) 22:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

How to change article title?

I made some changes to Article: Hank (textile) but I think the name of the article should be changed to Hank (unit of measure) because it doesn't just apply to the textile industry.CMtemCA (talk) 23:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC) CMtemCA (talk) 23:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

CMtemCA Welcome to Teahouse. I just used [[ ]] on Hank (textiles), it creates a clickable link to article. Well, if you want to change the title, then there is a feature called Page move. If you are using a desktop view, open the article and at the top near the Read, Edit, View History button, there is More button click on that. And click Move after that replace the name and write the reason also there in Change summary. (For more see WP:Move and I also suggest you to read Help:Rename). — The Chunky urf Al Kashmiri ^{(Speak🗣️ or Write✍️)} 00:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

A page I created met requirements for notability in the Hungarian language Wikipedia, but not the English language edition?

I created a page for Draft:Julian Macaraeg, as one existed in the Hungarian language edition (https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Macaraeg). However, it was denied on the basis of the subject not being notable enough. This is further confusing, as there are repeated references to the subject in other articles on Wikipedia, including Philippines at the 2020 Winter Youth Olympics, Short track speed skating at the 2020 Winter Youth Olympics, and Mixed-NOCs at the 2020 Winter Youth Olympics.

A simple Google search also returns hundreds of relevant articles and pictures, along with dozens of videos. 67.186.252.184 (talk) 01:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Inclusion of an article in hu:Wikipedia is not a reason for inclusion in en:Wikipedia, just as exclusion or deletion from hu:Wikipedia is not a reason for exclusion or deletion from en:Wikipedia. Barkeep49 states that the sources you have provided "do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject". Are you saying that Barkeep49 is mistaken? -- Hoary (talk) 02:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

FWIW I have been mistaken before so I could be here. But I don't think I am. Youth Olympian speedskaters need to pass GNG and those type of sources were not present in the draft. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:16, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

First article submission rejected - help a newbie?

Hi, Calliopejen1 reviewed my article and it was rejected. I’m totally new at this and thought this might be a good article to learn with. I learned about this place from another article about the founder, and I used the same references form the SFGate that the other article used so I thought that was sufficient. There’s a lot more online references about this place and the founder on other reputable websites if it needs more, but I did spend quite some time on this and I’d like to figure out how to do this properly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bcr8v

I’m not some bot and I don’t get paid for this or anything, just want to learn. I’d be most grateful for the help. Thank you! 182.253.75.197 (talk) 02:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Draft:Father's Heart Ranch.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

This is rather strange, because on your talk page Calliopejen1 writes (i) that the sources you provide for Draft:Father's Heart Ranch "do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject", and (ii) "If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk." Wasn't it declined because of a lack of significant coverage? Well, let's have a look at the cited sources. The draft has two references, but it only takes a few seconds till the reader realizes that it only cites one source. So what else can you rustle up via Google, Duckduckgo or similar about the subject? (Though publication on paper is acceptable too.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. The draft is Draft:Father's Heart Ranch. Your draft contains a reference to only one reliable source, a San Francisco Chronicle article that is primarily about Albie Pearson. You should add references to several more sources, especially those that give significant coverage to the children's home. An alternative might be to add a description of the home to Pearson's biography. I recommend that you read Your first article for lots of good advice. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I see that Father's Heart Ranch is already covered in Pearson's biography. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:33, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello IP editor and welcome to the Teahouse. I added one source to your article and cleaned it up a bit. To add to what others are telling you above, I have to agree with them and the page reviewer that the available sourcing does not demonstrate that the ranch merits an article.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

How to see who made an edit

Is there a way to see who made a certain edit to a page? I know I can scroll through the edit history, but there are 1000s of edits. Just wondering if there’s a way to see who added it quickly without doing a lot of scrolling. Thanks! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 02:15, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Lima Bean Farmer: I've never tried it, but I understand that Wikiblame tool will show this. See WP:WIKIBLAME for more info. RudolfRed (talk) 02:26, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much RudolfRed! Just a quick follow up: the article tells me to go to View History, but I can’t seem to find view history. If you (or someone) could point me in the right direction, that would be great. Once again, thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 02:45, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Lima Bean Farmer: “View history” is at the top right of the page beside the edit button. It’s where you check the edit history of the page. It is not present on the mobile version of Wikipedia. ◢   Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 03:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Wonderful! Thank you for your help Ganbaruby Say hi!. I’m so glad that Wikipedia has a place where users can get help quickly to improve their editing skills. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 04:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Can I create a wiki if I know the owner of the website?

If I know the owner of the website that wants the wiki entry, and a member of the NewsTalkers website, am I allowed to create the wiki entry for them?TiBUchon (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2020 (UTC) TiBUchon (talk) 04:11, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

You'll find advice at WP:Conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

TiBUchon, You are required to declare Conflict of Interest as per WP:COI and WP:PAID (if you are paid to do create an article) as per Wikipedia terms.

Most importantly, the article needs to conform Wikipedia standards of notability as per WP:GNG, WP:WEB and should be supported by independent WP:RELIABLE sources. It should be written in neutral point of view as per WP:NPOV and should not be WP:PROMOTIONAL by any means. Your article should not violate copyright as per WP:COPYVIO. ~ Amkgp 💬 04:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I am not being paid to create the Wiki page. I am doing it as a friend. But, I was not sure if it would be a conflict if I was a friend of the owner of the forum as well as a member. I just needed to know if that would disqualify me up front or not. If not, then I will proceed with reading the Conflict of Interest and other suggested materials here on Wiki. I have been out for the past few weeks a sprained wrist. so I am playing catch up now. But, I will read the referenced material going forward. Thank you for your assistance. (smile)TiBUchon (talk) 05:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

WP:IAR

If somebody uses IAR as an excuse for vandalism, do administrators also use that as an excuse for the block? 83.9.194.6 (talk) 08:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)