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Nominating the Article for deletion

See also: Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Archive 66 § Reflections on my nomination for deleting Shadow the Hedgehog

Since Shadow the Hedgehog is not a relevant subject for a wikipedia article. I dispute it's usefulness as a source of credible information. After all much like the sonic the Hedgehog Article it smacks with Fan Fiction unrelated to the video game franchise, and if the Sonic Article was not semi protected I would nominate that for deletion to!

P.S. To the writers of this Article, you need to grow up and lay of the weed because it's clearly slowed your mind! 96.2.110.63 (talk) 01:38, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - While I have had virtually no involvement in the writing of this article, I will ask you to bear in mind WP:Civility and refrain from making personal attacks on other editors. That said, I agree that this article needs some work, and I just made an edit to reduce some of the fluff (in particular, the "Shadow Androids" section seemed non-notable); however, I do not agree that this article should be deleted or with your assertions. In all honesty, I do not see how your explanation validly supports deletion under any of the criteria stated in Wikipedia's deletion policy. For one thing, video game characters from numerous franchises have Wikipedia articles, and it is generally accepted that major characters are notable subjects worthy of inclusion on Wikipedia, (see, e.g., Mario, Wario, Link, Midna, Master Chief), so your desire to remove characters like Shadow and Sonic for not being "relevant subjects for Wikipedia" falls flat under Wikipedia's notability guidelines and is likely to be dismissed by most editors. Also, what portions of this article are derived from fan faction? I do not see any from my review of it, though I haven't read it entirely thoroughly; but either way, perhaps a better solution would be to remove those pieces of information than to delete the entire article. For the most part, the information in this article appears to be sourced to reliable sources. Perhaps you can elaborate on your position some more, but at this time, I am unconvinced that any reason for deletion under Wikipedia's deletion policy exists (nor do I see how fixing the article's current shortcomings isn't a better solution). –Prototime (talk · contribs) 04:36, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Article is full of 3rd Party Reliable Sources giving both Verifiability and proving Notability. The need for cleanup of is noted. CIGraphix (talk) 01:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Phase 2 The New Approach

I was not surprised that my efforts to have the article deleted failed. So if I can't have it deleted then I shall re-construct it so that it better educates the reader about the game franchise. What does alot of the glorified fan fiction in the article have to do with the game's marketability or impact on the user in general?

As always I expect the typical resistance from other writers but they should carefully review the revised article and see for themselves, the obvious difference.

One should not think that they can somehow bully me out of the system. I do not and will never recant o the statements I made about the individuals who crafted the article and my continued efforts with the "Shadow The Hedgehog" Article shall speak for themselves.

Thank You! 96.2.110.63 (talk) 15:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia always needs passionate and knowledgeable editors to improve its articles with verifiable information, so your contributions are more than welcome; by all means, you should not view disagreement with your views in Wikipedia's consensus decision-making process as bullying—disagreement is a fact of life on Wikipedia for all of us editors. Thus, hopefully you will not perceive other editors who disagree with you as bullying you, and likewise you will strive not to personally attack editors whose edits you disagree with. Good luck with your edits! –Prototime (talk · contribs) 16:15, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You recently removed verifiable material from the reception section and replaced it with "The character and it's related games and comic books have seen modest popularity in the past few years, but has had an adverse mental health effect on it's less stable fans. It has caused some rioting in a few small Texas towns that have led to various acts of rape, murder, and cannibalism as reported on CNN August fifth 2006", sourcing it to a non-existent CNN link. Is this some sort of joke? I have restored the reception section to its previous status; if you don't have some sort of legitimate source to back up this wild claim, it will be treated as vandalism. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 21:55, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

Please see Talk:List of Sonic the Hedgehog video game characters#Notability for a notability discussion that pertains to this article and its series czar ♔ 04:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Shadow Loves Guns!?

Okay, so I know this is totally irrelevant to Shadow himself, but I've seen so many things about Shadow having closets full of MK60's! I completely disagree with this. He may have a gun in the Shadow the Hedgehog game, but that doesn't mean he loves it. It's probably the most effective way to kill the Black Arms except Black Doom. Although, I'm not so sure since I never played the game XD. Basically, guns can be more efficient, and unlike chaos control and all those other moves, guns don't require energy, except aiming and pulling the trigger and reloading. Other than that, no physical force for the wielder whatsoever. I personally agree with his chaos abilities being the most powerful. But seriously guys, an MK60 for a wife?! Really!? It's so stupid! And YES, I have seen such articles about that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omega Yagami (talk • contribs) 00:46, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Transparent background not working...?

So I noticed the transparent background on the infobox image is no longer functioning for some very odd reason, it was working several days ago. I uploaded two other pictures and tested them to see if it was a problem with the pictures, but it isn't. For some reason, the infobox image does not use transparent backgrounds anymore, and this is very confusing. Anyone know the solution? Coda16 04:07, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

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Reviewer: Kokoro20 (talk · contribs) 08:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hey, it's me again. I just noticed you had the Shadow article up for GA, so I thought I would take a look. The article is looking pretty good so far. I'll look over it a bit more soon, and bring up any concerns here before passing this. Kokoro20 (talk) 08:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, let's start with the lead and infobox.
  • In the infobox, I would suggest removing "Art by Yuji Uekawa" under the image's caption. It's not really that necessary, since the image file page already states the photo is by Yuji Uekawa anyway.
  • In the lead, change the "self-titled spin-off" link to say "spin-off of the same name".
  • Unlink "do whatever it takes to accomplish his goals", per WP:Easter Egg.
  • "Shadow shares attributes with Sonic and thus controls similarly in games, but is distinguished by his uses of vehicles and firearms." - Perhaps add "many" before "attributes", considering most characters that have been playable in the Sonic series has shared some attributes with Sonic, when Shadow share's more than the other characters.
  • "Additionally, the Shadow game was panned despite strong sales." - I would suggest changing this to "Additionally, the Shadow game was met with generally unfavorable reviews despite strong sales." Some reviewers gave it a positive score, after all. And since this referring to a video game, the name should be italicized.
That should be all for now. I'll take a look at the rest of the article later. Kokoro20 (talk) 14:29, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Responded to the first set of comments. I hope you don't mind that I formatted them using bullet points, as I think it's easier for me to respond and looks nicer. JOEBRO64 13:37, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. Now let's continue into the rest of the article.
  • First of all, in the "Description" and "Character biography" sections, try not to have so many citations. Some of these can be cited to the games themselves, not needing an in-line citation, kind of like how we do with the plot sections in film articles (even GAs and FAs). See WP:FILMPLOT. Of course, the things that are more open to interpretation or may not be so obvious, like Shadow being an antihero, and him having amnesia, should remain cited. Also, try stacking some of these cites one after another, rather than every sentence. But that's pretty much the only concern I have with those sections.
    • I know the citations aren't necessary, but I'm against removing them because it's still good to have them. In my time on Wikipedia I've been taught that while plot sections/character biographies don't necessarily need secondary sources because they're assumed to be cited to the work itself, it's still good to have them to demonstrate notability/the information's significance. Joker (character), Batman: Arkham City, and Doomfist are GA/FA-level articles with secondary citations in their plot sections. JOEBRO64 01:51, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • In "Development", change "good-vs-evil" to "good vs. evil" (with the quotation marks).
  • In "Reception and impact", change "the 2005 Shadow game was poorly received" to "received generally unfavorable reviews," similar to the lead.
  • "Reviews for Shadow the Hedgehog criticized numerous aspects of Shadow" is kind a redundant sentence. I would suggest changing that to "Reviews for Shadow the Hedgehog criticized numerous aspects of the character."
  • Who is East? That could use a little clarification.
Anyway, I think that's everything. Kokoro20 (talk) 11:46, 3 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Kokoro20, thank you for taking the time to review! I've responded above. JOEBRO64 01:51, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I responded to one of your points above. Once that's addressed, the article should be good enough to pass. Kokoro20 (talk) 12:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Responded above. JOEBRO64 11:59, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats. You passed. A bot should be adding a GA icon to the article soon. Kokoro20 (talk) 19:27, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Petition for Selection Deletion

In 2010, DeviantArt user "cmara" released a webcomic depicting Shadow in a romantic relationship with Shrek, the title character of the DreamWorks film series. According to Kotaku's Nathan Grayson, the comic paired the two because "if Shrek was the big screen embodiment of nu-millennium toilet garbage, Shadow the Hedgehog—with his hilariously unfitting blend of guns and angst in a colorful world of fast animals in clown shoes—was his video game bride". ""

Is this section really necessary for the understanding and reception of Shadow the Hedgehog? While the other examples in the section are from pop/internet culture, this particular example seems rather fringe and irrelevant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NovaAmm (talk • contribs) 04:22, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2021

Back in October 2020, Drummond himself confirmed on Twitter here:https://web.archive.org/web/20201015073026/https://twitter.com/RYANtheDRUMMOND/status/1316642485855117312, that he briefly voiced Shadow in Sonic Adventure 2, because David Humphrey forgot to record some lines in certain scenes in the game and they had Drummond come in and record them. Is there by any chance someone could update it and add him in the “Voiced by” section in the infobox? 2600:1000:B04E:B28A:2DC9:9374:579:C995 (talk) 05:37, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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