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Saryn Hooks

You participated in the Finola Hackett AfD. Please also join the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saryn Hooks (second nomination). Thank you. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:28, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

P-1000 AFD

Hey Brighterorange, I'm writing to see if you might have another look at the AFD for P-1000 here. I posted a comment there about my failure to find reliable sources describing the P-1000. I'm posting on your talk because you commented on the AFD three days ago and I thought you might not be watching it. Later! TomTheHand 00:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

AfD de_chateau

Just wanted to let you know that one of our CS maps is up for deletion. I'm not sure why they're picking on this one, but here's the link Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/De_chateau David Bergan 16:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you know...

Richard Albagli?

• I don't think so. — brighterorange (talk) 01:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Another AfD on the CS Maps

Thanks for your input on the last one, this is getting sickening, but the vote is against us right now. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Counter-Strike_maps David Bergan 21:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

• Don't be sad, it's not a vote, and I think people are receptive to good arguments. (I already commented on the new AfD this morning.) — brighterorange (talk) 22:41, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

2006 Long Island Sound Plane Crash

Help!, other useres are trying to delete my article but I objected saying that the plane crash is notable. Please vote keep on the vote page in order to save this article.Storm05 13:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Image problem on "Albright Special" page?

Isn't there a problem with the instructional diagram and the photograph on the stub page for the Albright Special knot (bend)? In an Albright tied correctly (for fishing with monofilament line, anyway), it's important that the tag end and standing part of the light line exit from the same side of the bight in the heavier line. This is not true in the photograph Albright_Special.jpg. It is also not true in the the two middle steps illustrated in Albright_Special_Diagram.jpg, which cannot follow from the first step nor lead to the final step (the first and last steps are correct). (Forgive my ineptness; I've never contributed to Wikipedia before now in any way. I just curiously searched for this knot because it's one I use routinely for fishing.)

• I'll take a look. I used a book on knots for a reference, but if I made a mistake or if the reference is wrong, we should fix it. The diagram isn't mine. — brighterorange (talk) 15:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

AfD on Individual Counter-Strike maps

Just wanted to inform you of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Individual_Counter-Strike_maps (July 17, 2006). I'm alerting everyone who had more than 2 edits in one of the previous AfDs. Kind regards, David Bergan 19:09, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Next WikiProject Punctuation

Hi, Was wondering when you are pulling the next dump off for the Project Punctuation?

Im thinking, that after the articles have been punctuated, i may run AWB over them with RETF to catch other spellings....

Wonder if there is a way to get AWB to look for missing '.'...

I will enquire

Reedy Boy 08:29, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• I don't have any specific plans. Perhaps September again? I've been thinking of doing a round to look for em dashes and en dashes that could be rendered better. But there are a lot of these. Maybe it would be good to integrate with some kind of automated editing process... — brighterorange (talk) 14:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

14 Year Old Girls

Seeing as you voted on the previous AfD, I thought I would alert you to a new AfD on 14 Year Old Girls. PT ^(s-s-s-s) 20:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

"en dash"

Hello - I just noticed your edit to the Bob O'Connor article, about inserting "en dash".

I saw what the edit did. Can you explain to me what that actually does, or what effect it has, versus the actual "-" character? I'm just curious...an opportunity to learn something new. Thanks! NickBurns 21:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• Sure. You can read all about the different style of dashes in the dash article or Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dashes). The en dash is about twice as long as the hyphen, and is used to indicate numeric ranges (among other things). Compare 1-10 vs. 1–10. — brighterorange (talk) 15:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• I appreciate your replacement of hyphens with ndashes. I've done quite a lot of that kind of editing myself, although I change them to "–". I'm not sure how you are doing it. But anyway, my current obsession is with the ordinal congresses, e.g. 1st United States Congress and congressional delegations, e.g. United States Congressional Delegations from Alabama. Most of these have inappropriate hyphens for ranges of years. Do you have a bot that could easily tackle all of these? I sure would appreciate it. Thanks.--Appraiser 15:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

• I used to use the html entities exclusively, but I actually think that the unicode characters '–' and '—' are the better way to go because they look better while editing. They're available in the edittools box below the save page button. I don't have a bot for it; I think that there are too many false positive scenarios for it to be totally automatic. However I have been working on a script that can do most of the work with a little human oversight. It's at User:brighterorange/punctuation.js. If you want to try it out, let me know so I can write some documentation. — brighterorange (talk)
• The script works well on these pages. I did up to and including Illinois. — brighterorange (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

• I reverted your auto edits over at 3D Monster Maze since in things like "1234-05" yyyy-mm dates it is not a range of numbers, so endash is inappropriate; moreover, this way it is inconsistent with the neighbouring "1234-05-67" yyyy-mm-dd style dates. Please adjust your script... --BACbKA 13:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know why I did that. Thank you. — brighterorange (talk) 16:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Caterpillar Face

Easily my favourite picture on wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jellocube27 (talk • contribs)

• Cool, thanks! — brighterorange (talk) 03:26, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Indzhe

Thanks for your kind words on this AfD - they were appreciated. Dlyons493 Talk 01:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikimeet?

Since you indicated that you are a student at CMU, you may be interested in a Wikimeet I'm trying to set up in Pittsburgh. You may join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Pittsburgh if you're interested. We currently have 4 interested people and are hoping to bring that number up to at least 5. Once we have 5 or more interested people we can then discuss the time and location. (Note: If for any reason you do not wish to participate, simply ignore this message.) Scobell302 04:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

We now have 5 interested people and have moved to discussing the time & location of our first meetup. You may provide your input at Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Pittsburgh#Time & Location of first meetup. Once we finalize something we will indicate it on the front page. Scobell302 03:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

{{User Pennsylvania}}

I was clearing out Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Pennsylvania. I added this template to your page. Feel free to remove it, and thanks for understanding. --evrik 04:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Stucture of the Higher-order abstract syntax page

Hi,

I just wanted to let you know that I made a few changes to the Higher-order abstract syntax page and created a discussion topic on the structure of the article.

eboy 16:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Orangeness

I know why I'm "Orange Mike"; might I inquire the origin of your handle? --Orange Mike 19:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

• I'm afraid it doesn't have a compelling explanation except to say that bright orange, and a sense of striving to make that orange even more bright, appeals to me. — brighterorange (talk) 21:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

3nd AFD nom for List of Battlefield 1942 mods

You may be interested in the List of Battlefield 1942 mods AFD. Bfelite 20:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

• I already weighed in on that. ;) — brighterorange (talk) 04:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Rock stuff

I was browsing the Wikipedians by alma mater: Carnegie Mellon University (as I will soon be joining the ranks) and I noticed we had a few interests in common. I went ahead and created Scat Records and canyon.mid. I'll add more later, but feel free to expand yourself. Andre (talk) 09:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

• replied on talk page. — brighterorange (talk) 15:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll be an undergrad, studying computer science. Andre (talk) 21:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Ultimate PHP Board

Hi,

Just wondering if we can get the Ultimate PHP Board wiki back up, it said it was deleted with the 'prod' reason and I read up on it. The article said you would put it back up if I just asked.

Tim (Myupb.com)

• I'm not sure which article you're refering to, but you can just recreate it if you want. However, if I deleted it via WP:PROD it probably doesn't have any chance of surviving Articles for Deletion. Maybe take a look at WP:WEB before continuing, and if the site does meet the criteria, then make sure the article indicates that. — brighterorange (talk) 17:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Image tags

Thanks for the heads up about Image:Lightning Bolt.jpg and Image:BrianChippendale.jpg. You were absolutely right, they were not GFDL at all (those were some of the first images I uploaded as I started to get into Wikipedia, so I didn't know what I was doing). I went ahead and updated/fixed the liscensing and fair use rationales on those and a few other images. Thanks for the friendly reminder and keep up the good work!
--Drewcifer3000 19:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

file extensions

Curious: What makes .svg better than .png? --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 16:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

• Responded on his talk.

jelly fish

Thanks for your wikification of that stub...! did you come across it there or elsewere?

• On the jellyfish article. — brighterorange (talk) 10:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Bohr Atom: SVG vs PNG

Hello, I saw that you replaced a PNG with an SVG. Something is wrong, in the process of displaying that picture. Could you revert your change, until the process is fixed? Also, I am working on an article that has some illustrations, and I have spent a good deal of time learning SVG and building my illustrations; seeing what happened to your illustration, disturbs me. Who do we talk to about this?

For your reference (and for forwarding to whoever is in charge), here is what I see, five hours after your change, using both Firefox and Microsoft Internet Explorer from a Microsoft Windows machine.

Viewing the page Mathematical formulation of quantum mechanics, I see the frame for the Bohr atomic model illustration, but that frame is empty.

When I right-click on the empty area and select "Properties", I see that Explorer and Firefox are both trying to show me this file: "http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Bohr_atom_model_English.svg/180px-Bohr_atom_model_English.svg.png".

When I left-click on the empty area, I go to a page titled "Image:Bohr atom model English.svg". That page shows a faint checkerboard pattern in Firefox, and a blank white area in Explorer. When I left-click on the name of the graphic file (below the empty display of same), in either browser, I go to this file (which displays properly in both browsers): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Bohr_atom_model_English.svg

--Swwright 22:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)^Talk

• Yeah, I have seen this problem a few times. I'd like to help fix it, but I expect it's something only the developers can do (probably having to do with a race condition in SVG conversion). Sometimes the images just don't get generated correctly and then they are stuck as completely transparent images; doing an ?action=purge on the image page seems to often fix it. I purged the cache and it seems to be okay now in the atomic theory article. — brighterorange (talk) 23:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Yup, that fixed it! Thanks! Is purging the image cache (for a given page?) something that anybody can do, or just whoever created that image, or just an admin? (Given that I'm soon going to be uploading several SVG images...) --Swwright 23:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Nevermind, it is at Wikipedia:Purge --Swwright 23:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes resizing the image also fixes the problem. TimVickers 17:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Commons picture of the year

My vote is for image #10. All of these images are lovely, so I can be exremely picky: 1 is a very good shot, but the composition could be improved (the lights in the corners are particularly distracting). 2's composition is perfect, but the image uploaded is very low resolution, and has a currently hip ultrasharpened HDRish look to it that will look very 2000s in a decade or two. 3 is a great animation, but I suspect it will also not age well, and there's something uncomfortably discontinuous about the motion. 4 is an apropos and unintrusive use of animation, but the image quality is actually not that good (low resolution, aliased font, aliasing at edges of moon); I think it also misleadingly suggests that it is actual photographs of the moon. The long exposure of 5 makes it appear blurry at large sizes. The composition of 6 is awesome but the image quality and contrast are only "good". 7 is a perfectly great wildlife photo, but is sort of obvious. Similarly with 8, except that foreground branches are additionally a bit distracting. 9 is wonderful in every way, and would win my favorite photo of the group, but its usefulness in an encyclopedia is limited. 11 is a great encyclopedic capture of a difficult to photograph event; really nothing to criticize about it at all except that the subject is a little mundane. 10 is high quality, and outstanding in its capture of something encyclopedic that would otherwise be basically impossible to see, so it is my pick. Thumbs up all around! — brighterorange (talk) 17:47, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Samir Patel

Thanks a lot, mate. I know Samir Patel personally... thanks... talk to you later okay? Onyx the hero 23:21, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Old book bindings

Just checking that you're aware of this discussion. Regards, Ben Aveling 10:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't—thanks for pointing it out! — brighterorange (talk) 05:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Auto edit to 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + · · ·

I reverted your edit to 1 − 2 + 3 − 4 + · · ·, which has the summary "auto 10 en dash". Besides introducing en dashes, your edit replaced some .png links with .svg links and it even replaced a working picture with a non-existing link. Since this seems to have been an automatic / bot edit, please have a good look at what happens and make sure it doesn't happen again. Cheers, Jitse Niesen (talk) 01:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oops, the PNG to SVG I did by hand, but then meant to undo after reading on the talk page that those SVGs aren't reliable yet. Only the dashes are automatic, which I believe were correct... — brighterorange (talk) 04:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, I checked and the dashes were fine, so I reinstated that bit. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 13:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Ira Glass

Hey, I noticed you reverted without comment my change (back) from "(b. ___)" to "(born ___)" in the Ira Glass article. Wikipedia style for biographies is to use the full word "born" (especially in this part of the article); you can read this at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Dates of birth and death and in the other examples in the Manual of Style (e.g. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)). Just wanted to let you know. — brighterorange (talk) 16:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

i appologize for not leaving an comment, i clicked save prematurely. per WP:ABB Wikipedia:Manual of Style (abbreviations), "(b. ___)" is accepted. --emerson7 | Talk 17:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Kleenex Girl Wonder

I noticed that you were the person who made the "Kleenex Girl Wonder" page a redirect to Kleenexgirlwonder. The band is more commonly known by the former--this is how they format the name on their website, it's how it appears on most albums, it's how allmusic has it--so I'm curious about why you put the redirect in place and if you'd consider changing it back. Thanks, Miss Dark 17:44, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

• Just that someone had created the page as kleenexgirlwonder and there was no page at Kleenex Girl Wonder at all, so a redirect seemed appropriate. I agree with you, so I just made the change. BTW, you could have done this yourself by using the 'move' button at the top of the page (see WP:MOVE); generally it's good style to be bold if you think something needs to be improved! — brighterorange (talk) 21:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

ACLU

If Wikipedia is going to say that the ACLU is "hard to define" politically, then the reality is that Wikipedia has a liberal bias. 205.237.164.127 04:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:SNOW

Hello! I noticed you closed this AfD based on WP:SNOW. The snowball clause is not policy and should not be used as a reason to close AfD discussions. I agree with your decision to speedy keep, however, there are better reasons to do so than a clause which is not policy or guideline. Thanks! : ) - Chardish 20:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks, I know about the speedy keep guideline, but since the nominator hadn't withdrawn his deletion request it doesn't meet the criteria. So I was simply being clear that this was an WP:IAR close under the reasoning in WP:SNOW. — brighterorange (talk) 21:11, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Zach White article marked for speedy deletion

The article for Zach White wasn't made by him, it was made by a fan of his. He was an important gay rights activist in the community and a CBS made for tv movie is going to be made about his struggle in central Ohio pretty soon. Please leave it up, his page is recent deaths was also deleted as soon as it was put up, and no one can figure out why. He did everyone in B.C. and the rest of the world a favor, his story just needs to be heard, as it has been in most parts of Ohio.

• I know this wasn't what you wanted from posting this message, but I speedy deleted the page since it easily meets our criteria. — brighterorange (talk) 23:21, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Russian-Circassian War

Hey, thanks for dashing the above article :) SGGH ^speak! 19:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

• No prob! — brighterorange (talk) 20:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

William Goebel

Thank you for your helpful copyedits to William Goebel. As you may or may not be aware, this article is a current featured article candidate. Would you consider supporting this nomination? If so, please add your vote and comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/William Goebel. Acdixon 13:18, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Missed some en-dashes?

Thanks for your recent edit to Daylight saving time that replaced hyphens with en-dashes. However, I noticed that it missed several hyphens. I made several other edits by hand to complete the process. You might want to look at the by-hand edits and see whether they can be used to improve the robot in the future. Eubulides 19:58, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks; I fixed those false negatives (caused by no spaces between template arguments and the 'date' parameter subsequent to the pages parameter). — brighterorange (talk) 21:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

For your recent WP:DASH fixes to several featured articles. Inappropriate use of dashes drives me crazy—please keep up the good work :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Ditto; wonderful! Can more of us use this tool? If not, would you be willing to routinely run through WP:FAC, WP:FAR and WP:PR? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad it's appreciated! I'm currently in the process of developing it, and testing it on the FAs and FACs is how I'm improving its accuracy and usability. I absolutely intend for it to be usable by others soon, as part of [[WP:.|project punctuation]]'s goal of crossing every ascii '--' and dotting every semicolon in Wikipedia. ;) — brighterorange (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to experiment on Sociological and cultural aspects of Tourette syndrome, History of Tourette syndrome and Causes and origins of Tourette syndrome. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, wonderful ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Also a quick run-through of Evolution would help to see if I missed any when I was doing this manually! TimVickers 16:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Now the punctuation gang's all here :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

OK, I did; I think it was better than average.. — brighterorange (talk)

The Biology and medicine section of WP:FA should be rife, since many of us pull references right off of PubMed, which uses hyphens on page ranges rather than ndash. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, Sir. TimVickers 17:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm eagerly awaiting your release ;) Doing this sort of thing manually can be very time-consuming, and frequently takes several pairs of eyes. This is a huge improvement. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:20, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

More articles ripe for the pickin' among those pending main page appearance: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 2007 SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind having another pass at Schizophrenia? I just did a massive update reorganization there, since it is at WP:FAR. Maybe you can keep an eye on it as work progresses. Thanks !! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:17, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Calvin Coolidge is due on the main page, and it has a huge amount of hyphens that need to be ndashified. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:25, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

• Did 'em, thanks! — brighterorange (talk) 03:43, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
  • 79 looks like a record — thanks so much ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Another request, that we're going to work on outside of WP:FAR; Charles II of England. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:20, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks !

Hi, Brighter, would you mind running through Schizophrenia one more time? It has received massive amounts of work at FAR, and everything should be in pretty good shape, so wanted one last pass on the dashes. Thanks ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Did it! — brighterorange (talk) 03:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks as always! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:51, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I changed one back, here, because that's the actual title on PubMed, and a search on PubMed with the exact title gets you there faster. Not sure if the script wants to change exact titles in refs ?? Thanks again, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Orange, would you mind running through Autism? Thanks ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow, only two—we're getting better! Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:17, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Yup! — brighterorange (talk) 22:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Brighterorange, another one. Would you mind running through Sargon of Akkad ? It's at FAC with a lot of incorrect dashes. Thanks again, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

It got page ranges, but didn't pick up all the date ranges; is there a change? [1] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

No change, it looks like I just get false negatives for "BC" dates (I'll have to work on that). — brighterorange (talk) 02:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

ah, sorry to give you extra work :-) Thanks again! If you get the BC thing working, Structural history of the Roman military is another goldmine currently at WP:FAC. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Never mind on that one; they were fixed manually. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Help Needed

Could you please take a look at the "diplom" article. Newbie user Sacrumi is turning out to be a troll and is making unfounded edits to this article, which are in horrible English (while removing credible cited information). When I try to make the necessary corrections, user reverts my edits and insists on his "knowledge" of English. I would greatly appreciate some assistance. Thanks. InfoAgent 15:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

en dashes

Hi, are you running a bot that turns disjunctive hyphens into en dashes? If so, let it rip. Page ranges too? Tony 11:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• It's not a bot, it's a client-side script, but it does automates the process with a little oversight from the user. (There are lots of things that cause false positives, so I don't think there's much hope for full automation.) I hope to make it available for wider use as part of [[WP:.|project punctuation]] soon. If only it weren't for that pesky dissertation... — brighterorange (talk) 13:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Tulane shield/badjpg

I continue to by mystified as to why if we can only display something at low resolution under fair use that we would want to use .svg rather than .jpg. Asking Tulane University to publish its trademarks as vector files for free distribution seems a bit presumptuous. --Dystopos 14:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

• I don't see why you say "free distribution"? The logo would still be protected under trademark and copyright. I believe it's preferable to use SVG even for fair use logos because it allows us to prepare our articles for print as well as be future-proof against increasing screen resolutions. In this particular case, though, a bitmap image in a lossless format like PNG would be far better than the JPEG, which shows visible artifacts in the solid color areas. That's the real problem and the reason for the {{BadJPEG}} tag. — brighterorange (talk) 15:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
• See also Image talk:Tulane shield web.jpg. — brighterorange (talk) 15:50, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Escape

Good call on the "Escape" edits, your formatting is easier on the eye and blends into the Wiki format much better then mine. Thanks, and have a good one

• (re Escape (book)) No problem! — brighterorange (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello, Im trying to figure out the site. I am having a very hard time, any assitance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

• Sure... Most stuff is written down at WP:HELP but if you have any specific questions, just ask! — brighterorange (talk) 13:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

San Jose FAR

San Jose has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--Loodog 03:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

deleting articles

Hi..could you plz check what I've done in Hatib ibn Abi Baitah to see if there is something wrong because it is my first time to add the deletion request..and if there is something wrong would you give me a note to learn...thanx..--Lubna 20:56, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Dash changes

Please be careful when changing dashes, especially in templates. This change, specifically the dash change in between the years, broke the infobox. Cheers. --MZMcBride 23:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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Relaunching WikiProject Pittsburgh meetups

You are receiving this message because you are a member of the WikiProject Pittsburgh. In the past we have discussed a meetup idea - let's see if we can make it a reality during the summer. Please see this thread for more information.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  23:29, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

SVG images on you Userpage

You had a not above the gallery about SVGs not rendering properly in galleries. I converted them to a table and used defined sizes, and now they render fine. I spend two and a half hours trying t figure out how to make the captions simulate the appearance of the gallery captions, but it didn't work. What's on your page now is the best I could do. Sorry if it's not what you were looking for. Revert if you want. Please let me know what you think on my talk page. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 05:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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Smile!

WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

-WarthogDemon 22:05, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Boston analytics page deletion

I was unable to find a company format template for creating a wikipedia page (i.e., eValueserve, one of Boston Analytics' main competitors) so decided to come up with one myself. There is a readily available source of 3rd party information out there on the company, some of which I list here:

Company website: http://www.bostonanalytics.com/

Further information from outside sources: http://boston.citybizlist.com/lstg/lstgDetail.aspx?id=3064 http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/nov/11bs1.htm http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/CompanyDetail.aspx?CompanyID=33920862&cs=QECBZde7k

Profile of Boston Analytics' chairman from keynote speech given at MIT: http://www.talentforum.org/bios/entrepreneurship_china_business/speaker-partha_s_ghosh.htm

Articles citing research of Boston Analytics: http://www.pma-magazine.com/articles/2007/January/6 http://in.biz.yahoo.com/070526/203/6gap7.html

Office location: http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-13,GGGL:en&um=1&q=analytics&near=Boston,+MA&fb=1&view=text&latlng=42353592,-71056169,4912315145691992116

Yellow Pages listing under "Market Research & Marketing Analysis" http://www.superpages.com/yellowpages/C-Market+Research+&+Marketing+Analysis/S-MA/T-Boston/

How can I move to convert this general page into the company template format?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shenji019 (talk • contribs)

replied on the talk page.— brighterorange (talk) 18:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia Pennsylvania

Hello there!

I'm writing to inform you that we are now forming the first local Wikimedia Chapter in the United States: Wikimedia Pennsylvania. Our goals are to perform outreach and fundraising activities on behalf of the various Wikimedia projects. If you're interested in being a part of the chapter, or just want to know more, you can:

• Contact us on IRC at #wikimedia-pa
• Join our mailing list
• Visit our blog at http://wmfpa.blogspot.com

Thanks and I hope you join up! Cbrown1023 talk 02:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

1942

Just a heads up on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Battlefield 1942 mods (5th nomination. Bfelite 23:11, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Greetings

Woa... I sort of know you! And I guess I don't have anything to say... (And I totally put that in some other section because I wasn't paying attention) TylerNi7 22:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for source on AfD

Thank you much for the lexis nexis source for Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TetriNET. Do you have advice on similar searches without a subscription? (!). Regardless, thank you for filling in the blanks! ∴ here…♠ 07:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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Pittsburgh neighborhood maps

Thanks for your work adding maps—colorful and stylish ones at that!—to the Pittsburgh neighborhood articles. Bravo.Rudowsky 17:37, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

My pleasure! There are still many more articles in need of the infoboxes, if you want to help. It's easy: the census PDF has the population and area information, Google Maps or Google Earth has the coordinates, and commons:category:Locator maps of Pittsburgh neighborhoods has all of the locator images. Lots of articles are in need of photographs. — brighterorange (talk) 17:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

endash help needed at Plymouth Colony

The article Plymouth Colony needs the page numbers in the refs converted to endashes. It is a current FAC: [2] and that's about the only unresolved issue. SandyGeorgia said you can run a script to help out with that. Could ya? I would MOST appreciate it. Thanks! --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:14, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• I can so totally do that for you. — brighterorange (talk) 04:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Muchas gracias, danke schoen, and merci beaucoup... --Jayron32|talk|contribs 05:09, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Hey, Orange, that one tricked 'ya. Something fun for you to work on. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:48, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Ah, indeed... Well, I don't claim to get 'em all! — brighterorange (talk) 16:02, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Apostrophes

Just so you know, an apostrophe "s" is supposed to be included in the link per the MOS. See here. Thanks for fixing my dashes in Mary: A Fiction! Awadewit | talk 15:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, strange that Mediawiki's link extension code doesn't work in that case. I had already switched it back when I saw that it didn't match the others in the same article. FWIW, I'm all for consistency but given this I have to disagree with the MOS when it says that that it makes the source easier to read... — brighterorange (talk) 15:11, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• Perhaps you could fix the code? I've often found that problem annoying. I actually agree with the MOS in this case; I find it odd to have all of these little "'s" hanging off links. Since the "'s" is part of the word, it seems like it should be part of the link to me. Personal aesthetic response. :) Awadewit | talk 15:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• I think it looks a little better too, but it certainly makes the source more complicated. My guess is that this isn't implemented because the apostrophe character is special in wiki syntax, but there's no fundamental reason why it couldn't work (as far as I can tell). Unfortunately I think that getting changes like this integrated into mediawiki and then into wikipedia is a very arduous project, or I'd take a stab at it... — brighterorange (talk) 15:27, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

• Just like everything else. I understand your reticence. Awadewit | talk 15:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Allegheny Observatory

What a nice image of a really neat building. Thanks for your contributions to the project, they are appreciated.IvoShandor 01:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Great, I'm glad you like it! — brighterorange (talk) 02:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

History of American football needs endashifying

Hey, could you run that script on History of American football; it has some page numbers in references that need endashifying... Thanks... --Jayron32|talk|contribs 01:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

• I did it! — brighterorange (talk) 12:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Kearny High School - Soccer Program Link

Brighterorange,

I noticed that you contributed to the Kearny High School page, so I wanted to ask you a question about the article. Someone is saying that the link Kearny High School Soccer is inadmissible. I'm not sure if he is correct or not. Can you see the link and his post here? [3] Your input will be appreciated. --Creashin 03:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I replied on the talk page. I basically don't have a strong opinion on this (I think my edits to the page were typographical in nature, as usual). — brighterorange (talk) 12:58, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. I don't have super strong feelings on it either, but it seems that the guy who does is somewhat of a stalker. And I liked your thoughts on whether or not it would improve the article and I think the answer is obviously "yes". --Creashin 02:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Dash script

Hi, Tom. I am working on lung cancer, with the intention of submitting it for "featured article" status soon. SandyGeorgia suggested that I should ask you to apply your "dash-fixing script". I would be grateful for your help. Axl 17:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Done! — brighterorange (talk) 22:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Axl 20:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. Would you mind running it through Bupropion? It's at FAC now, and I've been fixing the dashes manually. No problem there, but your way is much faster :) Thanks in advance, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yup! — brighterorange (talk) 03:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Hey Tom, it's me again :) Could you run the script on Lung cancer—again, it's now at FAC—and aspirin? The latter is the current WikiProject Pharmacology Collaboration of the Week. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I did it! — brighterorange (talk) 19:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Hair

I highly encourage you to stay bald!!-DMCer 10:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

• OK! Don't worry! — brighterorange (talk) 12:57, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

The Apprentice UK

Hello, Brighterorange/Archive2 and thank you for your contributions on articles related to The Apprentice UK. I'd like to invite you to become a part of WikiProject The Apprentice UK, a WikiProject aiming to improve coverage of The Apprentice UK and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to help out and participate, please come over and visit us here for more information. Thanks! Dalejenkins

Tim Duncan

Can you run your script there, please? Thanks. —MC 19:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

the eXile section on Michael wines

Hey again, hope you are well. Not to involve you in this train wreck again, but there's a new mysterious ip reverting the page again, citing policies nonsensically, and ignoring discussion and consensus. You can see the reversions at the eXile, my ignored comments at talk:the eXile, and some more discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. I think this situation may require admin attention. Thanks for your time Dsol 12:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The anon is now engaging in discussion, but I would still appreciate your input. Thanks Dsol 13:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Dash script.

Sandy Georgia recommended your script for bird which is nearing FAC status. I know nothing of dashes, but apprently it is important so I would be grateful for the help. Thanks. Sabine's Sunbird talk 23:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

• Done! — brighterorange (talk) 15:07, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikinews Interview with John Vanderslice

You edited the John Vanderslice article. Wikinews is schedule to do an interview with Vanderslice this Wednesday, September 26. If you have any questions you'd like to ask John or know about John, please leave them on my Talk page. Thanks. --David Shankbone 15:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Super Mario RPG lists

Currently, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars has two lists pertaining to it (List of characters in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, and List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). User:TTN decided it would be best to merge the lists into the main article and split Smithy Gang into those articles. I recently merged Smithy Gang into the list of chatacters by removing the non-notable characters, and I have asserted that a cameo section in the list of characters is valid, per Wikipedia:Trivia sections and Wikipedia:Handling trivia that uses Alex Trebek#Cameos as a good example. I have suggested that we rename the articles per Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves to something along the lines of Characters of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and World of Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars or Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars) just like Characters of Final Fantasy VIII and World of Final Fantasy VI or Gaia (Final Fantasy VII). I believe if these articles are to evolve beyond a non-notable list, they should be renamed. For example, List of Final Fantasy VII locations was merged into Gaia (Final Fantasy VII), because a World article is notable, but a simple list of locations is not. That is why there are other secions of the article to make it a World article. It simply has not been renamed yet.

TTN believes the citations in the development and reception sections of the list of locations, books and magazines, are trivial sources. When I added that the 3D perspective of the game is reminicent of Equinox to the main article, TTN removed it since my souce was "the opinions of the Nintendo Power player's guide writers". Although it was actually Nintendo Power magazine, I do believe a magazine is a reliable source, and I gave a page from Next Generation Magazine which also said the same thing. In addition, I was surprized that TTN said that it was from the players guide, since he claims to own the players guide for the game. He has not verified this, since I asked him for citations in May, "Could you look in the back of the Player's Guide and tell me what “types” of … Magic? I forgot what they call it in the game … well, anyways, what types of Special Attack or whatever it is (actually, could you find out what it's called?) there are? I remember some vaguely when I owned the guide like “Fire”, “Jump”, “Electricity?”, etc. Could you provide a citation, like the page number with a quote in context?" TTN replied that he was going to "get to it" (User talk:TTN/Archive 5#List of locations in Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars). TTN claims the player's guide is "at the bottom of a box that's behind at least five others in a cramped space". Seeing that TTN did not recognize that the page was not from the player's guide when I provided a scan of the page in question from Nintendo Power shocked me. However, I have continued to assume good faith by not questioning TTN's honesty.

Per Wikipedia:Consensus#Consensus can change, I have offered five different reasonable, temporary compromises that might integrate my idea with TTN's.

1. Go over the list of characters so we can delete non–notable characters
2. Rename the articles by following the steps at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting potentially controversial moves.
3. Cut down the geography section list of locations by cutting it into the regional maps the adventures use when traveling from one to another. I can get pictures and write the fair use rationals, and someone can cut down the text that has no citation and does not allude to other media.
4. Write the concept and creation and reception sections for the list of characters
5. Write the concept and creation section for the main article

TTN rejected my compromise because it still keeps the articles. I agreed I would consider a redirect, but Wikipedia:Article size does not allow that, since the list of locations is currently 82 KB long. Instead, I agreed to help cut down the geography section that is the bulk of the article, but TTN rejected that as well because TTN states, "I am not interested in working on the article in regards to improving it." and "get past this "having sources automatically means that this information is good" mentality." TTN states, "I don't think they have or will ever assert notability." I have replied with, "Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so if you don't think the articles will ever assert notability, we cannot yet know this, per Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#I don't like it.

Would you please take a look at Talk:Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and give us your thoughts? Taric25 01:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank You!

		The Copyeditor's Barnstar
		For making generic edits to improve the Iowa-class battleship articles I hereby award you The Copyeditor's Barnstar. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 05:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

City, State single links converted to two links

I see that you are deeply involved in converting US city/state single links to two different wikilinks. Why? Did I miss the memo? I would much rather see one link for San Francisco, California (for example) than two. Binksternet 06:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• Because the City, State naming convention is for disambiguation (the name of the city is San Francisco). We don't link Lombard Street (San Francisco) in articles; we write "Lombard Street in San Francisco". Why is it that you'd much rather see one link? — brighterorange (talk) 12:39, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

• I don't disagree with your example above. What I'm referring to are your disambiguations that appear in articles such as USS Missouri (BB-63) where you change this:

"Armed as such, Missouri was formally recommissioned in San Francisco, California on 10 May 1986."

...to this:

"Armed as such, Missouri was formally recommissioned in San Francisco, California on 10 May 1986."

I see in Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) that it's not good practice to put two links right next to each other where they appear at first glance to be one link. I hold that the single link to California doesn't add to the understanding of the subject in this example. Binksternet 13:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I know what you're referring to; I'm making a comparison to other kinds of disambiguating titles. I think it looks better and is pretty common style on Wikipedia. — brighterorange (talk) 21:30, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

Hi Tom, I was looking through the history of The Notorious B.I.G. article and I came across this edit of yours. I'm just curious to know why the <br> tag was converted to <br /> despite looking identical. Cheers. Spellcast 03:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

The main point of that edit was to fix the spacing of the reference, but my script also automatically fixes the syntax of the <br> tag so that it is valid XHTML (in XHTML, a tag that has no matching closing tag, like <references />, must use this self-closing syntax). It doesn't affect the page rendering, so I only bother to make that change when there are real fixes to be made as well. I just noticed that MediaWiki now (?) renders a bare <br> tag as the XHTML-compliant <br />, so the point may be moot except for applications that try to parse the HTML contained within the Wiki source but that are somehow confused by invalid XML. Anyway, a minor thing but there you have it. — brighterorange (talk) 14:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I've seen several other scripts that also convert to <br />. I know it's a minor issue but I trust you know what you're doing. In the future, I will use <br />. Thanks for clearing that up! Spellcast 07:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Georgia links

Hi, please can you stop linking to Georgia as this is a disambiguation page which should not have incoming links. The correct link for the state in the USA is Georgia (U.S. state), Thanks! DuncanHill 23:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks, you're right, I should have realized that. — brighterorange (talk) 23:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, as far as I know it's the only state that causes this problem, but it seems to catch a lot of people out!. Best wishes, DuncanHill 23:14, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

It's fixed now. — brighterorange (talk) 12:57, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Excellent, good work. DuncanHill 13:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Em dashes

I've heard you have a script that fixes dashes in articles. Would you mind running it on James II of England? I nominated it for FA, and it's come to my attention that my dash usage is non-standard. Thanks! Coemgenus 14:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Done! It won't necessarily get all of them, but 76 is a good start. ;) — brighterorange (talk) 14:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much! That's quite a useful script you've got there. Coemgenus 14:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Brighter, would you mind running the script at Franklin B. Gowen? Thanks so much, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:43, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

oops, someone else did them manually! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:18, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

City-state changes

Hi,

What's the rationale for these edits? We shouldn't be taking unambiguous links like Nashville, Tennessee and splitting them into two separate links unless there's reason to believe that both city and state are particularly relevant to the article. In most cases the state is just there to provide context. Is there some guideline on this that I'm missing? Chris Cunningham 08:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

• The rationale is that the ", Tennessee" part of the link is disambiguation, not part of the name of the city. We similarly don't link to Georgia (U.S. State), we link to Georgia, United States. — brighterorange (talk) 20:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

This is mistaken IMO. The disambiguation is for the benefit of readers, not for the benefit of making the link point to the correct location. It ensures that readers know which Nashville is being discussed, and if they've never heard of Nashville it gives them an appropriate frame of reference. What's definitely not right is splitting these links up, which results in run-on links where the second part is only tangentially related to the article (and thus doesn't really need a link). I'm going to reverse these changes in future unless there's reason to believe that the two-link version adds clarity to an article. Chris Cunningham 08:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, you can revert if you want, but this is pretty common style. I don't understand when you say that disambiguation is for the benefit of readers; in an article we generally link to disambiguated pages using only the base name for that article and hide the disambiguation part. That's why the pipe trick exists, and works for comma as well as parentheses. There's also the (usually substed) {{city-state}} template that does the same thing. Are you objecting just to the fact that Tennessee is linked in Nashville, Tennessee? Otherwise, I don't understand. — brighterorange (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

You had this argument already at #City, State single links converted to two links. The point is as follows:

1. Nashville, Tennessee links to the correct Nashville. Per WP:MOSLINKS#Content, it is better to link a whole phrase which provides context than just to a fragment if the current version goes to the right place.
2. In most cases, the reason for linking to Nashville, Tennessee or Sacramento, California is not as an attempt to avoid redirects; it's an attempt to provide a bit of context.
3. "Tennessee" isn't important. So it shouldn't be linked unless, per WP:MOSLINKS#Form, it would avoid having to pipe things. In the case of Nashville, Tennessee, we're basically just wasting pipes.
4. "It's common on Wikipedia" is just a rephrasing of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS where the reason it's common isn't through deliberate effort. This is the first time I've seen this style being used deliberately (I've never come across {{city-state}}, but suffice to say I disagree with it), and like the user above who questioned you on it I don't believe it's useful or necessary.

Chris Cunningham 14:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

In regard to (4) I think in a stylistic argument it is reasonable to refer to style used elsewhere in the encyclopedia as evidence that the style is acceptable. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is an essay about deletion, not style! I don't deny that there are some people that disagree (when aren't there?) but there are also people that agree. Look a bit and you'll see it all over the place. Take the lead sentence of University of Western Ontario, for instance; it links to London, Ontario, not London, Ontario. Do you think that's wrong?

For (3) I suppose it depends on context whether the state is important, but I don't have anything against "Nashville, Tennessee." We do generally link place names, though. What does it mean to be "wasting pipes"?

In response to (1) I don't believe WP:MOSLINKS#Content is relevant because Nashville, Tennessee is disambiguation, not a phrase. It is not the name of the city. The reasoning is the same as for other disambiguations like Georgia (U.S. State).

Finally, let me mention that the reason I prefer doing this is not just semantic but aesthetic: commas look terrible in links because they intersect the underline. — brighterorange (talk) 16:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS might be directly concerning deletion requests, but it's very commonly linked to to at least convey the meaning; that Wikipedia is really rather huge, and therefore it'll almost always be possible to find an existing example of whatever thing people are trying to dissuade a user from doing. In the UWO article, yes I think it's wrong, and had I the desire to add even more random pages to my watchlist I'd go and correct it right now.

"wasting pipes" was just a cute way of saying that "Nashville, Tennessee" uses up an extra dozen bytes on Wikipedia for absolutely no benefit to a single soul.

And "Nashville, Tennessee" is not "disambiguation" in the Wikipedia sense (well, it is, but that's an altogether different kind of thing); it's clarification in the normal manner of introductory prose for subjects that the reader may not be intimately familiar with. If it isn't clear from the article that a link to Nashville definitely means "Nashville, Tennessee" without having to hover over the link, it absolutely should be "disambiguated" in the article prose.

Finally, the aesthetic thing: monoBook has underlining links turned off by default. Approximately everyone on Wikipedia uses the default monoBook appearance. We should be optimising for approximately everyone by default. Chris Cunningham 18:36, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

(for what it's worth, that's UWO cleaned up :) ) Chris Cunningham 18:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

You're right about monobook; I almost always look at the site logged in. I agree that since underlined links are the default the aesthetic issue is not important. I think you and I differ on what the purpose of disambiguation is, but that means I don't find your argument very persuasive. Essentially, I think that we should not let the arbitrary naming conventions of Wikipedia articles infect the prose of the articles that link to them. I'm particularly surprised that you think the UWO article was in error. There are loads of articles that use this style, particularly in the lead. Regarding your change (and the consequent de-linking of Ontario), how could it be the case that both London and Canada are "important" in that first paragraph, but not Ontario? — brighterorange (talk) 01:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I think Canada is notable in this case because the sentence in which it is linked specifically draws a comparison to the rest of Canada's universities. As for "infecting the prose", I don't think this is the case at all. I think it's pretty conventional to refer to London, Ontario instead of London, Canada, and the article prose definitely needs to point out that it's not London, England, but it's fairly arbitary. I would refer to my currently location as Linlithgow, Scotland in articles normally, even though Linlithgow isn't a disambig page - I may go for Linlithgow, West Lothian if I were editing an article with a uniquely Scottish context. In any case, I don't generally think that any part of the location is assumed to be notable (and hence worth linking to as a matter of course) except the town or city. But I'd generally provide at least some clarification in the prose. Chris Cunningham 10:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Hamlet

Hi. I hear you have a script that can fix some technical issues before this article goes to FAC. Is this true? Wrad 02:53, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Yup. I ran it on Hamlet for you, assuming that's the article you meant! — brighterorange (talk) 21:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Wrad 01:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Script

I hear you are the person to talk to about a script to fix the endashes in page ranges. An article I am involved with, Youngstown, Ohio is currently an FA nom and one comment was to fix this problem. If you are able, I would very much appreciate the assistance. Thanks, Daysleeper47 02:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, did it! — brighterorange (talk) 13:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The page ranges are still off there in the citations; I suspect there may have been ref work after you went through. Would you mind going through again? Thanks :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

svg.js

Could you please fix your userscript so it wont show up in the category. Q ^{T C} 07:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for telling me about that. I fixed it, I think, but it seems like a MediaWiki bug—templates should definitely not be expanded in JavaScript code (and any categories thus included do not show up on the bottom of the page, making it hard to know that this happened!). — brighterorange (talk) 13:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Dash script

Hi there, SandyGeorgia pointed me in your direction. I was wondering if your could run your endash script over Poliomyelitis when you get a chance? Thanks--DO11.10 02:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Opensource.svg

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God I hate this bot. — brighterorange (talk) 13:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Script for correcting hyphens

Hello! I was told that you have a script for correcting hyphens and ndashes. Could you run it on the John Knox article? Thanks! --RelHistBuff 11:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

• I ran it, but found nothing because the article's already clean! — brighterorange (talk) 14:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
  • We did it manually in your absence; you were missed! Would you mind running through RNA interference? Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
    • Done. Sorry FAC folks, I've been AWOL from traveling and binge-writing my thesis. I'll probably not get to requests like these very quickly, but I'll be back soon! — brighterorange (talk) 15:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
      • Thanks; good luck on the binge! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
        • Oops, a strange one; I was surprised to see such a low count at RNA interference, so I checked it; most of the page number ranges in the citation templates didn't get changed to endashes? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Featured article review/RNA interference

Just a note to say I've put this up for FA review, though I should point out that the problems are not huge - it just needs a little more clarification for laymen, because the concept, while fascinating, isn't as hard to understand as we're making it. If it weren't for exams, I probably wouldn't have put it up for review, just done it. Adam Cuerden ^talk 17:15, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

On duty?

Hey, there, are you around? Both History of evolutionary thought and Herpes zoster are in bad need of dash attention. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, noticed that RNA interference still has some stragglers. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I guess I am! I did those, though I didn't find anything in RNA interference. — brighterorange (talk) 04:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Mystery; the script misses all of the endashes on page ranges in cite journal template at RNA interference, but it got them on other articles ... ??? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:19, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Brighter; would you mind running through Political integration of India? Thanks! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Dash bot

Whenever you have a chance, might you run the dash-bot on Analytical Review? I am preparing it for FAC and I know that it is littered with incorrect hyphens. Thanks! Awadewit | talk 03:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

• Thank you! Awadewit | talk 17:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Yet another dash-bot request

When it's convenient, I'd appreciate it if you would run dash-bot on Jimmy McAleer. The article is still in peer review, but a couple of reviewers have asked me to prepare it for FAC. They strongly recommended that I contact you. Thanks! -- twelsht (talk) 21:06, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you much! -- twelsht (talk) 23:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

LAHS Article

re: Los Alamos High School

Basically I had stopped doing the wikipedia thing because I got tired of babysitting Peter Ekman (the notorious groper of eXile infamy).

But this article for LAHS had atrophied so much that I was kind of offended after all the work I put into creating it. Apparently LAHS is most notable for the rate it graduates Wikipedia vandals. I saw that you got rid of some of that, btw, so thanks. Anyway I went back and fixed it up. I know you're busy with the PhD and everything but when you get a chance maybe you could advise me how I could take the horribly pixelated LAHS logo and turn it into a smooth vector graphic. Also if you know a page that has some pointers on how best to insert graphics into pages without messing up the layout, that would be sweet. When you get the time. Ryan Utt (talk) 17:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Ubiquitous dash-bot request

If you could run the dash-bot over Joseph Johnson (publisher), WillowW and I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Awadewit | talk 02:44, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem! — brighterorange (talk) 06:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again! Awadewit | talk 12:38, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Dashes in Emily Dickinson

Hello, I was recommended to you (or rather your bot was) by Awadewit, so I must be in good company. :) If you have the time, could you run the bot for Emily Dickinson? It's just passed GA and I was hoping to take it to Peer Review and FA sometime in the future. I'm afraid her punctuation is rather heavy on the dashes, so if your bot threatens to crash because of this request, I completely understand your reason for not offering your services. :) Happy holidays! María (habla conmigo) 03:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem! — brighterorange (talk) 06:36, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

(Belated) Happy New Year! spam

Here's hoping the new year brings you nothing but the best ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The design of this almost completely impersonal (yet hopefully uplifting) message was ripped from Riana (talk · contribs)

Endashes

Hi. I have an article undergoing peer review with a view to achieving FA status. User:SandyGeorgia said you could run a programme to change hyphens to endashes in the notes. As I don't even know what that means I'd be extremely obliged if you would do it! The article is Reactive attachment disorder. Thanks again. Fainites ^barley 19:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The best thing about punctuation.js is you don't even need to know what it means! Cheers! — brighterorange (talk) 19:59, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Whatever it was. Fainites ^barley 20:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

SVGs?

Hi Brighter

I was wondering if you could help at all? You flagged up at the FAC for Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C. that the graphs should be in SVG format, not JPG. I went ahead and created Image:NPLOneGates.svg, but it doesn't display correctly. It seems to have made it onto the server, as if you click on the empty space where it should be then the image opens, but it doesn't display within the page itself. Any idea what I've done wrong?

Cheers, ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

It is displaying now, but it looks like something's wrong. Did you auto-trace a bitmap image to produce this? That will produce bad results for line art like this. Also, it looks like the text is being stroked rather than filled, which makes it almost unreadable. — brighterorange (talk) 14:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

help pliss, it was for school project

can i know what is the real size of the painting in centimeter or meter?

help pliss, it was for school project

can i know what is the real size of the painting in centimeter or meter? email me at sn0wp4nth0m@hotmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.83.5.40 (talk) 02:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

What painting are you talking about? — brighterorange (talk) 07:51, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia ML Master List

A reference for ML - Master Lists was already provided. ML- Master Lists is a form of web-specific content - its content is distributed solely on Internet - and is grouped under the Wesites category.

Its notability is not temporary as the interest in the topic has been continual.

The Wikipedia article would be able to develop other sections, for instance the article on Tinyurl.com. The Wikipedia article does not describes the nature, appearance or services a website offers, it describes the ML - Master Lists concept and, according to the Wikipedia policies, is more up-to-date than most reference sources, incorporating new developments and facts as they are made known. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.93.8.231 (talk) 17:03, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but Wikipedia is not the right place to promote concepts like this. At a minimum, it must be written about by multiple independent sources before it can have an article. — brighterorange (talk) 17:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

block message missing?

Hallo Tom, Thanks for blocking the vandal IP User:70.43.30.174 I reported, but I'm puzzled as to why you didn't leave a block message on their talk page. Isn't that standard? Cheers, PamD (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Yup, you're right, I just forgot! — brighterorange (talk) 19:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

commons:Commons:Picture of the Year/2007/Finalists

Hi Tom,

An image of yours has made it to the Commons 2007 POTY final round of voting. Congratulations and good luck. Don't forget that you are eligible to vote, too. cheers, pfctdayelise (talk) 10:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow! I am surprised to see it as a finalist (some of those pictures are incredibly good), but I won't complain. Thanks for letting me know! — brighterorange (talk) 14:40, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Dashbot

When you have a moment, could you run your dashbot over Joseph Priestley House? Much appreciated! Awadewit | talk 06:44, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Did it! — brighterorange (talk) 07:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Awadewit | talk 07:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Process Management (Computing)

Hi I created this article today I came across you in the AfD page of Dial-a-Phone. Could you have a look over it for me I will be adding more to it and also putting in diagrams when I figure out how it's done thanks.BigDunc (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I posted some comments on the talk page for the article. — brighterorange (talk) 16:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your input have started work on your suggestions not sure what exactly you mean in your last point could you help me out with that if you get time, thanks again. BigDunc (talk) 18:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Ruth Fowler (Writer)

		The Barnstar of Recovery
		For endeavoring, and ultimately succeding, to save Ruth Fowler (Writer) from deletion during its AfD against your own better judgement (It's rather thankless and risky to fix an article when it's on AfD with two delete opinions), I hereby award to you this Barnstar of Recovery. SWik78 (talk) 19:17, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

En dash script?

SandyGeorgia suggested on the FAC for Giant Otter that you have a script of some sort that takes care of missing en dashes in references. Is it possible you run that for this article or point out how to? Like many others, I'm often dash inefficient. Cheers, Marskell (talk) 12:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Giant Otter is no longer dashficient! — brighterorange (talk) 04:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you sir! Marskell (talk) 10:45, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for you to use your endash script on a FAC

Per a suggestion from SandyGeorgia (talk · contribs), could you use your endash script on the article that is currently undergoing a WP:FAC, Hell Is Other Robots ? Thanks for your time, Cirt (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I ran it, but didn't find any fixes to be made. — brighterorange (talk) 04:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. FYI, I mentioned you at the FAC page for the article, please feel free to clarify at there for the benefit of other evaluators of the article - as I am not familiar with your script. Cirt (talk) 05:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Dash script

Could you run your dash script on Boydell Shakespeare Gallery? I would appreciate it. (By the way, is there a way I can run this script myself? I hate bothering you all of the time!) Awadewit | talk 23:45, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I did it. Yeah, the idea is for this to be something that anyone can use, but I haven't written any documentation for how to install or use it yet. Don't worry about leaving requests, it only takes me a few seconds to do 'em! — brighterorange (talk) 06:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again! Awadewit | talk 06:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Tyrone Wheatley

I noticed your recent editorial involvement in Tyrone Wheatley. You may wish to comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tyrone Wheatley.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:45, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Request for endash script on FAC:Oxygen

SandyGeorgia (talk · contribs) suggested to ask you to run an endash script on Oxygen article that is currently undergoing a FAC. Thanks, Nergaal (talk) 04:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

And Koli Point action. Thanks for everything you do, Orange. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

would it be hard to convert the script into a bot? Nergaal (talk) 05:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it has many false positives and so it needs human oversight. — brighterorange (talk) 13:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Orange, I went ahead and did Oxygen manually, and someone else did Koli Point action. Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:51, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops, for some reason I missed that these were requests and not just questions left on one that I already had done. My apologies! — brighterorange (talk) 00:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem; I was afraid something happened to you! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Soon-to-be FAC Fanny Imlay - :)

If you could run your script over Fanny Imlay (whenever you have a moment), I would really appreciate it. Awadewit | talk 03:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Yup, done! — brighterorange (talk) 05:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Randall Flagg

Hi, could you run your script on the references in this article?--CyberGhostface (talk) 16:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Your wish is my slowly executed command. — brighterorange (talk) 23:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. :) --CyberGhostface (talk) 23:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Orange, can you run through RNA interference? I think you've done it before, but for some reason, there are still a lot of hyphens on page ranges in the citations. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I ran it, but it didn't find any changes because it skips things like "457-8", insisting that the first number be smaller than the second. That's pretty common though, so I should fix it. I probably won't get to it in the near future, though, because I just started a new job! — brighterorange (talk) 13:06, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, orange. I'll go work on those manually. I hope the new job is a good thing ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

So far so good, but it'll be hard to beat grad school. =) — brighterorange (talk) 04:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yea, it's all downhill once you're out of school and have to start paying the bills :-)) Thanks again! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Dwarf planet

Hello again! could you run the script on the references of this article too? Thanks, Nergaal (talk) 06:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Done! — brighterorange (talk) 13:06, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Barn Swallow

Yikes, going on the main page on the 14th with bad, bad dashes :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Did this too. — brighterorange (talk) 04:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Orange; does anyone ever say thanks? Thanks :-)) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Alzheimer's Disease

From one orange to a brighter one. SandyGeorgia said you can run a script on this article to clean up the em-dashes. If you have a chance, can you help out? Thanks. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 00:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Did it! — brighterorange (talk) 04:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Princess Helena of the United Kingdom

Hi Brighterorange. I was wondering whether you could run your script on Helena, as it's currently in peer review and hopefully soon a FAC. Thanks and best, PeterSymonds | talk 14:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

• Did it! Just reference space fixes. — brighterorange (talk) 07:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Grover Cleveland

Would you mind running your script on this article? Thanks, Coemgenus 20:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

• Done! Loads of en dashes! — brighterorange (talk) 07:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks! Coemgenus 14:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Triton (moon) at FAC

Hey, Orange, would you mind running through this FAC? Thanks in advance, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Makeoutclub Wiki Entry

Hello,

I am hoping for some help with the makeoutclub.com entry on Wikipedia. The initial entry I had made last September seemingly cleared the deletion hurdle and then it was expanded much more elaborately by wiki user drhamad. Since then, it has not only been edited heavily but now is marked as a contender for deletion and I can't figure out why. I am looking for assistance wherever I can find it within wikipedia to save the article from being deleted.

Please let me know if you could help to make sure this article doesn't leave.

Thank you very much.