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shiren the wanderer image

Why did you remove the cover image from the "Shiren the Wanderer" article? My impression was that the cover image or the title screen image was the best image to include in video game articles. Is this incorrect? Luvcraft (talk) 16:24, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The article is not exclusively about the DS version. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Even though the DS version is the only one that's been released outside of Japan? Luvcraft (talk) 20:26, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

But then what would be an appropriate image? Surely not a screenshot, since that would only be from one of the systems. Luvcraft (talk) 21:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE: I've reverted your edit, because on further consideration this IS the best image to use for this article on the English Wikipedia, because it is the cover of the only version of the game released in English. For precedent, see Flower, Sun, and Rain, which uses the European DS box art as the image because that is the only English-language release of the game, even though it was released in Japanese for the PS2. Luvcraft (talk) 02:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

List of PSP games

It really helps if you discuss such a large edit before making it, especially the second time. If you are going to say "the information is in the articles", then why have the page at all? All of the information is in the separate articles. The point of a list is to bring similar information together instead of having to look at separate pages. If you are that determined to remove the information, then I guess we need more opinions. And I see that you also made drastic edits to other game list pages. MrKIA11 (talk) 00:43, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

This is the kind of content that causes lists to have a column for genre, 3D or 2D, and Gender of main character. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:44, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

What is that supposed to mean? If you are saying it is trivial, then I disagree. The multiplayer capabilities are possibly the most important feature of any handheld console. MrKIA11 (talk) 00:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

We're talking about a list of games, not the platform itself. The article is 100KB, so either we split the article, a last resort, or trim the unnecessary content. List of Nintendo DS games is a manageable article that relies on nothing but the basics because that is what is important. Gamesharing = important now, why? Number of players = important now, why? Release date is for reference sake, developer and publisher is for reference sake, and regions released is for reference sake. There's nothing referential about the # of players - that's too trivial of information, because it's of use to someone who has played it or wants to play it, while the above mentioned important information is of more use than that. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I went ahead and just took it to WT:VG instead of us arguing, since that could last forever. MrKIA11 (talk) 00:55, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I concur with KIA. The list of psp game information is fine the way it is. Tons of people play multiplayer and that last column is extremely helpful. And, with all due respect, your logic would indicate we need to have a giant list of game titles with absolutely no information at all other then a link.

The purpose of a wiki is to provide thorough information. With a list, that means getting the needed information at a quick glance. And you should never ever confuse 'trivial' information with 'useful' information. Knowing the gender of the main character is a very unimportant point for a game list. It's trivial...cosmetic if you will. But knowing if I can play against someone else or if AdHoc is available...that deals with the functionality of my playing and is thus important.

My vote is for the list to stay as-is.

--ZeroAccend (talk) 06:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

They are game mechanics, NOT necessary aspects. They can and mostly are available in category form. You, in fact, are the one who is confusing something - in this case, you're confusing "useful" for meaning "necessary". A list of games rated by the ESRB for the Virtual Console is "useful", but not "necessary". - A Link to the Past (talk) 06:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I just read the thread on the VG talk page, and that basically sums up my thoughts also. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:13, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Do you realize that you're not the only editor? I personally think the future releases section is great to keep separated. The reason games are listed multiple times, if you would look closely, is that they are released on different days in different places. The redlinked titles also don't look good. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:01, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Each of those listings is so minor. You removed the entire section and only saved 3KB, at the expense of "accessibility and quality", which sounds like you care about. And considering it a waste of space is your opinion. Every game that has a page to be linked to is linked, and any that do not should be requested, not just redlinked. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I copied the entire conversation to the article talk page. MrKIA11 (talk) 21:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Flagicons

I understand why you have taken down all of the ratings, but why the flagicons. Those templates are there to identify regions and they are free images. The text alternative looks really messy. Bovineboy2008 (talk) 01:34, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Because it makes the size of the article way too big, and it takes too long to load these images. Flagicons disregard the many people who don't have a good connection. - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:19, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Banjo Kazooie characters

I have reverted your massive changes to the Banjo Kazooie articles with regards to characters (I did leave the changes you made about game guide content though). You made zero attempt at discussion prior to these changes. Someone even tried to start a discussion here, but you seem to have either missed it or are deliberately ignoring it. Please talk about these changes, why you think these changes need to be made, and come to a consensus before editing the page in that way again. Thank you. --13² 21:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Scribblenauts

I don't know where to start really with it, since the article is clearly, well, incomplete... I will point out that I don't like the usage of "imagined" as it is in the development section. Conceived or other more formal terms seem a much better call. Also the presentation section seems useless, and better built into the gameplay section. Beyond that cleaning up the paragraphs a little could help all around. Wish I could be more help to ya. :\--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:47, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Multiple accounts

Hi. Do you think you could change your signatures in the discussion on Talk:List of PlayStation 3 games so that all of your comments have the same signature? It would make it easier to see where everyone stands. Cheers. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 08:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

List of Virtual Console games (North America)

Do NOT remove the ESRB ratings unless there is a consensus to remove them. As for your pointless comment about no discussion putting it in, the ESRB ratings have been in since the article was created over 2 years ago. So you can't just remove something which has been part of the article for over 2 years without any kind of consensus. TJ Spyke 23:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, you did a good job pointing that out - you failed to explain why trivia belongs on a list. And just curious, did you magically erase WP:BOLD? There was no indication that anyone would have opposed the ESRB ratings' removal. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

You could argue the same thing about anything else there. Why do we need the publisher? Why do we need the release date? Unlike with movies or TV shows, ratings are very important with video games and it makes sense IMO to include it in a list like this. Since the list is specifically for North America, we don't have to worry about space for other ratings like CERO or PEGI (which we would for articles that cover all regions). You could also wonder why do we need ratings in individual game articles. BTW, I was typing my above comment while you were adding a comment to mine (so that's why I didn't reply to what you said). TJ Spyke 23:44, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

One of the worst arguments is "well that applies to everything so we must delete everything!!" Almost every single list of video games mentions the publisher. And we need them in the articles because they're general information in an article, trivia in a list. We removed how much a VC game is because it's extra. A list should not venture into "useful information", and stick with "necessary information". A list should only make use of the general information - title, release, publisher. All lists in table format use that information, few use ESRB ratings. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:50, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Digimon

No, there's more articles for Digimon characters than there are for Pokemon's merged master lists. Not at all the same thing. Digimon's content-filled masterlists were kicked off of wiki. And yes, wikipedia does list every Pokemon available in Ruby and Sapphire, just not in that article - they have the in-depth masterlists for it. Digimon doesn't even get that.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

The Digimon theme is constantly stuck in my head. But if the final line is "Digimon are the champions!" how are Digimon fighting other Digimon and either winning or losing? That would be like Chuck Norris fighting Chuck Norris, and then some kid goes (before the fight is over) "Chuck Norris is the champion!" and everyone around him goes "WTF!?" 最後の最初のチップを提供する (talk) 23:52, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

How are you assessing articles at the rate of 1 per second 3 per minute? (I read the time wrong, sorry.) :,(

I see many many MANY assessments, but I don't see comments as to what needs to be done. Is this a bot gone wild? Are you using a bot to post results from somewhere? Why is the only comment "Assessed". This seems wrong. I am reving out the change to EverQuest. If it is valid, please reapply, and leave something a wee bit more useful in terms of notes.
I am also probably reversing the assessment on EBTG... I don't understand why this performing duo is flagged as part of the VG project. sinneed (talk) 23:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I am not unhappy with either ranking, but with the lack of explanation on the articles... they won't be improved just by reflagging with no explanation... at all.

EBTG should not be part of VG... it is about a music duo. I have removed the VG flag, it was added by a bot. I do agree that it is a start-class article. All the best. :) sinneed (talk) 00:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, just note that I do not intend to contend with anyone on the class of the article - if anyone objects, I will give a thorough review. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:39, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, and thanks for adding the comments to the talk page. The HUGE number of articles that need assessment or reassessment pose a simply Herculean task. I am sure you don't do this for the appreciation of random editors, but Thank You, nevertheless. All the best! :) sinneed (talk) 00:54, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Mario Bros. GA

An appropriate award for improving a Mario article to GA — a Starman!

		The Nintendo Barnstar
		For bringing Mario Bros. to Good article status! MuZemike (talk) 02:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

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WQA

I have already told both of you to quit it twice, and you two keep going. Hence, I have no choice but to report this to Wikiquette alerts. Please resolve the dispute with a third party at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts#User:Lord Sesshomaru and User:New Age Retro Hippie. Thank you, MuZemike (talk) 05:16, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Are you kidding?

If you wish to assess Breath of Fire and downgrade the rating, the least you can do is provide some minuscule idea as to what's lacking in its content. Writing "Assessed" in the edit history doesn't exactly suffice. Johnnyfog (talk) 17:50, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Though your amiable reply is appreciated, it still leaves the issue of you not simply announcing your assessment on the discussion page. I thought the idea was to make life easier for future editors? Even if it takes ten years, someone is bound to come along and follow your suggestions. There's really no excuse for not writing something, there are ways of doing these things. Johnnyfog (talk) 15:07, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Jawbreaker

None really needed for two of the images. They've been released to the public domain/on a creative commons license by their creators. If you look at the uploaders, they're the ones who created the games the pics are from. And the said games are freeware anyway. Shrumster (talk) 23:00, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

The images are there to show the different ports. Shrumster (talk) 23:03, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Ninja Gaiden

Would you explain why you chose to demote the article from B-Class to C-Class? I feel that it is fairly comprehensive with the exception of the Plot section, which I know needs some cleaning up. MuZemike (talk) 06:14, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

N64 List

Thanks for trying to make the List of Nintendo 64 games page better but if you read the talk page it has been decided that "All" alternate titles as long as not direct translations are to be listed, such things as Sonic Wings Assault and others they still need to be present, if you still wish to remove the alternate titles section you'll need to find a way to still incorporate them into the list. (Floppydog66 (talk) 14:44, 12 December 2008 (UTC))

The consensus for the List of Nintendo 64 games is that all titles unless exact translations are to be left on the list, if you wish to rearrange the titles and find another way to list all titles that is fine, if you wish to make other changes they should be talked about on its talk page, talk:List of Nintendo 64 games and a consensus reached before those changes are made. (Floppydog66 (talk) 12:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC))

Mass-reassessing of VG articles

I am bringing the matter of you mass-reassessing VG articles without giving any reason to WPVG's attention as I have not received any response as well as discoving many other such "sudden reassessments" in the contribs. MuZemike (talk) 17:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Your assessment methods

Dear editor,

I'd like you to explain some of your assessments to me, because they honestly puzzle me. Judging from your contributions, you assess many articles within the span of a few minutes. I don't think you can even read some of the articles you assess during that time, let alone have a careful assessment of them. Here's a few examples:

1. 1 minute after assessing another article, you assessed Pong as C-class. Could you give me some insight into your decision?
2. How can you assess two very long articles, PlayStation and PlayStation 2, in the same minute?
3. In what way is Doom (video game), another 1-minute assessment, a C-class article?

Please be aware that assessments don't actually mean anything. They are a tool to provide editors with feedback on their work, something you haven't done with any of your assessments, and something that is the norm for video game assessments. The way people use our assessments, and the quality they ascribe to it, stands and falls with the care and precision with which these assessments are conducted. Conducting several assessments of long articles within such a short timeframe as you've done, clearly not even reading the article, without leaving any feedback, is destroying the hard work several volunteers like Someoneanother, UnaLaguna and myself have put into making WP:VG assessments an appreciated thing within the video game article writing community.

Regards,

User:Krator (t c) 18:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

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Mother 3

I reverted your largely unexplained edits to Mother 3 as I was not at all clear on why you felt the need to strike the Wikia link. When removing content, your edit "summary" really ought to have a real explanation in it - "Rm Wikia link" doesn't really cut it on its own if you want the edit to stand. There doesn't seem to be any sort of blanket ban of links to Wikia projects in WP:EL, and this particular Wikia link is linked elsewhere (Earthbound, etc) and has been for sometime, so simply stating that the link was to a Wikia project doesn't explain the deletion.

No response necessary if you were in error the first time round, but, if not, please post an explanation to Talk:Mother 3/Talk:Earthbound/whatever upon repeating the removal if it can't be crammed into a decent edit summary. MrZaius^talk 09:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Dragon Quest Hereos

I would be glad to help out. I'm not particularly a fan of the series, I'm just a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Square Enix. ~ Hibana 20:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, alright then. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:24, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Merger of Doom 3 and expansion

I've removed the tags for merging this, simply because there is an absolute ton of sources out there with which to write the article properly; examples for both a wealth of information for development and reception sections has been provided on the talk page. Merging would be entirely counterproductive, and "not very signficiant" is not a valid reason for a merge in these circumstances. It may not be very significant within the genre, but it is notable and very capable of a fully developed article, despite current quality. -- Sabre (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Space Invaders

The PSP boxart is just a identifiable due to it's tall and thin shape. I don't mind a cropped image being used (although the way the guidelines are written seems to apply to console games since console boxes are the shame shape, whereas handheld boxes are very different). DS boxes can be cropped with very little damage to the look. The guideline says to use a neutral box if possible. It's not possible with DS/PSP games since their shapes are so unique (it's easy with consoles). I have started a discussion on this on the style guideline page. I agree with the idea of boxarts without console identifies, but the DS/PSP boxarts prevent this from happening. TJ Spyke 01:05, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

It's not possible to have a neutral DS/PSP boxart. That's my point. Since we can't have a neutral boxart, there was no reason not to keep the boxart that had been up for over a year. Hopefully the other people at the project can make their opinions noted (the talkpage See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines#Boxart. Oh, I also cropped the DS box a little bit to make it better. TJ Spyke 01:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

So because there's any hint of what the box art is, we shouldn't bother to be neutral in which box art is used? Of the two cropped images, the PSP version is the most neutral image. With your image, you can either leave part of the logo on, making the art look odd or bad, or remove all indication of the logo, making the image shape completely unlike any other box shape. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 01:23, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Onechanbara

Hello LTTP, er, Hippie, just wanted to ask you about the new game being for both the 360 and Wii. Have you seen confirmation of the game being for both platforms or are you looking at Bikini Zombie Slayers which is the Wii game? I'm not 100% sure ATM, but apparently they're different games, the Wii version is Onechanbara R whereas the 360 game is Onechanbara: Vortex. They might essentially be the same thing, but I'm sure I read somewhere that is supposed to take place after the other. Thoughts? Someoneanother 03:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Nomination notability discussion

You've twisted my words out of context in the project discussion and wrongfully accused me of using underhanded and dishonest methods to argue my point on the AWDoR talk page. If this is how the discussion is going to progress, I decline to participate any further. I ask only that you apologize for insulting me on the AWDoR page, and I'll withdraw, I'll even readd the content to the AWDoR article myself. I just hope you realize your actions were wholly unnecessary, and this affair could have been conducted with much more civility. -- Commdor {Talk} 21:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

There was nothing minor about reverting someone's edits. There was no expectation that I would view them as minor, and an expectation that I wouldn't. How is it a summary of your edit if you fail to explain the edit in full? If you didn't intend to deceive, then I apologize, but you also must acknowledge that reversion of another user's edits isn't minor. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:30, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I didn't mean the edit summary thing, that's moot, I'm talking about your statement "There is absolutely no consensus on whether a nomination can be considered notable, so I suggest you stop using that as an argument." Never once did I assert that there was a consensus in my favor (if there was, we wouldn't be here), and I don't appreciate being accused of downright lying when I never even said the lie. I knew full well there was no consensus, and so did you, that's why we were hashing out the issue. I'll accept your apology as if it were for this point, though, and wash my hands of the matter. I joined Wikipedia to edit, not dicker over policies and guidelines like half of everyone else here wants to do. -- Commdor {Talk} 00:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd just like to point out that you accused me of doing something I'm not too, in this edit summary[1], implying that I'm deliberately against adding information that would improve the article. Just because something is lacking information does not mean non-notable information can be added to fill the gap. Please don't revert again until consensus is formed at WT:VG. Thanks! Fin©™ 11:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just pointing out fact - if a game wins zero awards, then the next best thing is to say what it was nominated for. We have nominations, and that's the only commentary for such games as Call of Duty: World at War for the DS. How can that not be commentary on its reception? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Nominations

Hi there. I'd appreciate if you could stop adding nominations for non-GOTY awards, regardless of what they are or represent, (Too Human's included) while the discussion is still ongoing. Thanks! Fin©™ 22:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Spyro (series)

Thank you for moving it to a better name, and work you've done on it, but what was with deleting the reception and legacy section. I know that it could be written much MUCH better but I don't think that it should have been deleted.Wise dude321 (talk) 05:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough it is redundant. But I thought that it would be good to point out how after Insomniac stopped creating the games the acclaim dropped severily. The scores have recentley climbed but they have never reached the same appreciation of the original games. Could I add something like that? With a reception table to help show the comparison?Wise dude321 (talk) 05:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

notabillity troll

You are a vandal for unilatery abusing redirects. 89.240.166.198 (talk) 06:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

People didn't donate 6 Million dollars to be called not notable

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Article Assessments

Anime/manga articles should not be added to the Cartoon and Television projects. They are not under either projects scopes at all. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 20:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Reply left on my talk page, and perhaps you could actually let the discussion finish before continuing to revert in error (Adult Swim task force very specifically states "It does not cover off-network shows, anime series and programming outside the Adult Swim block." You are in error here. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 21:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Adult Swim

Um, why did you ask me? Just curious. I don't watch Adult Swim; only CN I watch is Chowder and Flapjack. Also, you might want to tone down the sig a tad. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 21:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I kind of have to agree on the signature. See Wikipedia:SIG#Length. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 23:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

NO WAY. I will be enraged if this man cuts his signature short. It has to be the best one across all of Wikipedia. Good game reference bro, keep it. (raises fist) — ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (talk) 02:07, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

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Dead or Alive Code Cronus

Just because a game hasn't had any new information released from it's developer doesn't mean that the article isn't notable (see Duke Nukem Forever or Too Human.). Until an official statement from the developer stating otherwise, the the article is fine. All info supplied on the game in relation to it's storyline, console, etc.) is that supplied from the developer. Don't NOT redirect the article again.Beem2 (talk) 09:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Controversy over the usage of Manchester Cathedral in Resistance: Fall of Man

Hi, as you're the one who started the above article and have added large amounts of info, I thought that you'd like to know that I've nominated it for GA status. I've tidied it up a bit, adding sources and removed in {{fact}} tags and think it stands a good chance. Your opinion on improvements to the article is very welcome. Happy editing, Nev1 (talk) 00:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

That's a good idea, in the meantime I'll add an image of the exterior, I think that would help too. I don't think there's currently an image like the one you suggest on wikipedia, but I'll drop the Greater Manchester wikiproject a line to see if anyone there can help; possibly not, but there's no harm in asking. Nev1 (talk) 01:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Reviving GCotW

I have proposed a specific plan for making the Collaboration of the Week simpler and easier for everyone, by having a bot choose the articles. I'd like your opinion, as you originally created the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Improvement drive. The proposal is here. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 04:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Adult Swim task force

Are we done with this or not? Need you to help me out if we're going to do this still. treelo _radda 01:23, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

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Adult Swim response

Where's the area to join? Rtkat3 (talk) 7:37, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Earthbound on Retronauts

I haven't listened to it myself, but they tend to be good for bits of information and reception. I remembered you had an active interest in the series for here, so figured I'd toss it your way. Link.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 11:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

And while I'm at it, this for Mario Bros. Special.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 11:30, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Mario Kart

I notice you often make similar edits to several articles at the same time. If you are going to do this, please at least copyedit the addition first. For instance, "This caused it to become" could be "This made it". Keep things as concise as possible. Gary King (talk) 00:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, "tenth" should be numbered as "10th" per the MOS. Gary King (talk) 00:54, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

A few things: you've been here for a while, and you make edits to many articles from the same source, I assume. I definitely appreciate your additions, but please copyedit them as a lot of it is copy-and-pasted to a few articles, so one issue will appear in several articles. I noticed this first in the edits you made to a few articles I was watching last week, and there are still a few more for the more recent additions that you have made. For instance, "Game Daily" is actually "GameDaily", and "2009-1-15" should actually be "2009-01-15". Is this nitpicky? Perhaps. But again, these changes are copied to more than one article, so it would make sense to ensure that they are as perfect as can be before copying them. Gary King (talk) 00:58, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Merging

Why did you merge EXE4 and 4.5? They're two different games. -Sukecchi (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Merging Strong Bad Sings

You can't just merge articles because you feel like it. You have to use the merge template and allow discussion on the merge before you do it. Otherwise, it's vandalism.--Marcus Brute (talk) 08:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

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I'm not really sure about using that image for the "setting" section, since the design of the castle changed greatly going from EB64's "evil haunted house" look to Mother 3's "old stone tower" look. Basically all of the concept art changed from a Disney-cartoonish look back to the old Earthbound art style. Sure, it looks nice, but this is mainly an article about the finished game, and concept art is only related to the development of the cancelled EB64. And when you have to choose between the comparison shot and concept art, I think the comparison shows more about how the game changed from the two games. I'd suggest just switching back to the Nowhere Islands picture. (off the record, let me just say that it was a miracle that they released Mother 3 on the GBA instead of N64...those CGI graphics are just terrible in comparison to the spriting masterpiece that is Mother 3 GBA. That has no bearing on the concept art though, since it is, well, a concept). --_{ZXCVBNM [TALK]} 05:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Why not just keep the Nowhere Islands pic? It's an official image, right? In that case it is the developer's representation of the game's setting, and is informative in that regard since it shows all the areas. And on an unrelated note, moving the page "Characters of Final Fantasy VII" to "Characters of the Final Fantasy VII series" wasn't a good idea, since it's technically not a "series" with one game and multiple spin-offs, and it's part of a larger series. I suggest "Characters of the Final Fantasy VII universe" since it's a fictional universe (such as List of characters in the Firefly universe.--_{ZXCVBNM [TALK]} 17:02, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Characters of Final Fantasy VII

I note you moved the article, this has been reverted because you did not seek discussion or consensus with other editors- it is a big move and shouldn't be done unilaterally. I agree with you that the current title is too vague- it specifically applies to the game...yet arguably to the whole series. Personally I would prefer Characters of the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII as that is the series' official name- however last time I suggested it, it was a no go. Gavin (talk) 11:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't need to seek consensus for an uncontroversial move, which was done in another case. Compilation of Final Fantasy VII does not encompass Final Fantasy VII, as determined at Discography of the Final Fantasy VII series' peer review. However, now that I removed the Compilation of FFVII information due to it being redundant to the main articles' content, it should be moved back to the original title. And I must ask you to not revert, because the article is far too large without the content, and with it it's incredibly large, more so than it should be. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:56, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't realise that was the case...hmmm why is it called Characters of the Final Fantay Series if it only includes characters from the original game? Gavin (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, it didn't when I moved it, but now it should be moved back now that it's shortened. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Pro Evo 2009

The big deal is that being in the top 100 in one country is not a big deal! If it was in the top 10/20 in the world, then that would be notable, but it's surely not that big an achievement to be in the top 100 games. – PeeJay 20:58, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Meowth's Party

I will do some checking tomorrow. It's 2:30AM where I live and i'm gonna be heading off to bed in a few minutes. TJ Spyke 07:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Rope Snake

What exactly are you looking for? I mean Rope Snake broke the 4th wall in Mother 3 by telling the audience that he is a important character--209.51.72.53 (talk) 07:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I understand your reluctance as we dont want a million characters on that list. However, Rope Snake is notable in two sense. 1. He helped Duster get through Osohe castle and without him, Duster wouldn't have been able to complete his mission. 2. Rope Snake in the game itself speaks to the player that "he is now a main character". Quite poor to leave him out since he's a main character right? ;) --209.51.72.53 (talk) 08:04, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

If there are future problems with rope snake, all you need to do is keep in mind that without him Duster wouldn't be able to cross the crumbling Osohe Castle and that Rope Snake stated in the game himself that he is a main character. Thank you for being reasonable--209.51.72.53 (talk) 08:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

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Don't turn this into an edit war

I have left a message at User:Zappernapper's discussion page asking for clarification as to why he originally set up the SSB cat at just Ganondorf. Please wait for a response. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:31, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Just a comment, but how can it be possible that a redirect page fits into a category that the page it redirects too does not? Gavin (talk) 17:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Because Ganon is not the character's name in the Super Smash Bros. series, Ganondorf is. Simple as that. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

That's not really based in logic - just because Ganon does not share the name found in SSBB does not change the fact that they are. It's not like you're redirecting to a list of characters, you're putting the cat on a name redirect. Like I said, we don't put the Fictional princes on Ganondorf. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:14, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

We're only supposed to place the most useful categories on redirects for ease of navigation (like Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters), not trivial ones. Have you not seen WP:CAT-R? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Well in particular, I don't see anything non-trivial about the SSB character category. However, if the Fictional princes category is included in Ganon, it's easier non-trivial or trivial and thus should be removed. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I think you're still missing the point here. The guidelines are pretty concise on this topic, however, we could turn Ganondorf into its own page. We'd have to make it only about instances of "Ganondorf" regardless of what he is called at other times. Either that or just move Ganon to that name. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Ganon is not big enough to warrant a separate article, and the consensus is to use Ganon. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Assuming you meant "Ganondorf", why not move the article? From my knowledge, the name "Ganon" is hardly ever used anymore. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Ganondorf is his humanoid form, Ganon is his more common form. I can think of only one game that lacks the Ganon form, but his Ganondorf form is missing in seven games - including one released just recently. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Right, but what about the name? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Ganon is more common. People who only played one of the older games wouldn't recognize Ganondorf's name, but people who have only played a game without Ganon would recognize Ganon from Ganondorf. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 19:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but this is ridiculous- they are the same fictional character! Ganon is the person in SSB. Is the picture of Ganon in human form not the one that appears in SSB? This would be like saying King Koopa is not Bowser because of different names. Gavin (talk) 19:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

There is precedent with Zelda that both forms be given pertinent categories, even if one is a redirect. As Ganon in pig form also appears in SSBB, it should be acceptable to list him as a fighter. Any other applicable categories should be copied over too. I believe, though, that Ganon in pig form is called the "emperor of darkness" at some point or another.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 19:32, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

1. Ganondorf uses magic, as does Ganon
2. King Daphnes calls Ganon the dark emperor, while depicting Ganondorf. Should this count for both, just Ganondorf, or what?
3. Both call themselves either Gerudo King or Evil King
4. As far as I can find, only LoZ Ganon was called "Prince of Darkness"
5. Neither Ganon nor Ganondorf seems to qualify as a warlord - he either has a heriditary monarchy, a divine mandate (self-given, of course), or militarily took the crown and installed himself as the new king (which is valid). The definitions of warlord given are not one who wages war to take control, but someone who is in control due to military, not governmental or monarchical power, such as a Shogun. Ganon has always been called a king, and does not qualify. Neither does Ganondorf.
6. Both are clearly bosses, as well.

I've changed the categories to reflect this. If discussion continues on the other talk pages, please just quote this comment. If you agree with it, I guess.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 19:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I have initiated a thread at Wikipedia talk:Categorizing redirects concerning something in this matter. ‎Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:58, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

i'll leave this up to the regular editors at that wiki guideline, b/c i have a strong feeling they'll agree with me. CAT-RD is pretty clear on this - they're the same characters, but someone looking at Category:Super Smash Bros. fighters could be confused by seeing Ganon instead of Ganondorf, so we place the cat on the redirect page to aid in navigation. We have two guidelines at work here - WP:CAT-RD and the spirit of least astonishment. -ΖαππερΝαππερ ^Babel_Alexandria 04:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Mother 3

Substantively, I don't know much about the game, so I'm not sure how I could help. I merged some material back into the article to avoid deletion. Bearian (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm making suggestions at Talk:Mother 3 first. Bearian (talk) 19:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Good job here. Bearian (talk) 15:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

VGChartz

I believe that VGChartz are only reliable when it comes to the charts. Therefore, data gleaned from these charts should be allowed (such as on Advance Wars: Dual Strike). Per Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches and WP:RS, the "About Us" section of VGChartz.com should show that this data is reliable. They use "a growing team of analysts, over ten years of experience and with over twenty years of historical data." I would appreciate if you could undo your removal of this source from Advance Wars: Dual Strike. Thanks. NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 21:14, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Can you link me to that discussion please? NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 21:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm looking for new sources now. NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 21:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I can't find a reliable source... You wouldn't happen to know where I could find an archive of the NPD charts, would you? I had a forum claiming NPD saw AW:DS have around 40k sales in August, but obviously a forum isn't a reliable source... NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 22:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I actually have a big ol' lists of DS LTDs, but I can't use any of it without a reliable source to back it up. For reference, NPD sales are 262.000 by Dec. 07. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Eh, whatever then... Such information isn't essential to the article, so I'll just leave it be... Time to source the rest of this sucker and get it to WP:GA! NOCTURNENOIR ^{( t • c )} 22:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, that ought to be fairly easy! Don't need too much sales info - it's generally accepted that it's hard to come by in North America, after all. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

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I see you're making a article for every Art Style game. I believe we should have an image in the infobox just like you put in Art Style: ORBIENT. The purpose of those image is to indentify the articles better. Versus22 _talk 05:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Merger with Metalocalypse Wikiproject

Hello!

I approve of a merger between the Metalocalypse Wikiproject and the Adult Swim section of the CN Wikiproject, as long as it shows up somewhere that my main focus (and I am assuming the other members of the Wikiproject) is Metalocalypse. Since it seems that membership has become stagnant and due to a lack of recent updating of articles relevant to the project (I know I haven't due to other obligations), perhaps it would be for the best of the Metalocalypse-related projects that they were in the domain of a larger group of users. With that being said, I am going to put a moratorium on the project, give the other members at the most a week to second the merger, and will transfer the current member list and other relevant information to the Adult Swim section. TTYL!

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IT IS DONE! Pmcginty (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

List of space flight simualtor games debate

Hello my fellow list creating friend who I have never met or spoken to in my whole life. Over the past year I created the List of space flight simulator games on Wikipedia. A person named SharkD and I engaged in an edit war because he changed the name of the page and then sorted it to the Chronological list of space flight simulator games, when a good portion of the games on the list have multiple release days. An administrator got involved and to my suprise kinda sided with me and we began the discussion in Wikiproject Video games. The reason why I am messageing you is that I seek advice. If you can post your advice on the Wikiproject Video Games Talk area here that would be very much appreciated. Wether ya agree with me or not I think the discussion could sure use some comments from a guy who has done a whole heck of a lot more lists than I have, thanks again! --Kirihari (talk) 03:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Mother 3 (2)

Sure, it could use a "recurring elements" section since all the series games are alike in many ways. That could include recurring characters like Porky, Dr Andonuts and Mr. Saturns (which are already there).--_{ZXCVBNM [TALK]} 07:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

And Dr. Andonuts could have an interesting section, what with the whole thing about people mistaking the old man from Contact when it first showed up (to the point where this was acknowledged in a preview of Contact by 1UP.com). I imagine we'd also have to include the Starmen and Magicant into EarthBound (series). - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 07:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Mother 3 (3)

I don't see a discussion. But whatever, I still think it's unnecessary to split off the article and diminish the content that exists there already. The article isn't big enough, or with such a large variety of references that it needs a subpage. As is, it might be a good idea to get a peer review and see if there's anything that needs to be fixed.--_{ZXCVBNM [TALK]} 17:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Heh, we don't use the kilobyte system anymore - since the majority of internet users now have broadband, page size usually isn't an issue unless it's REALLY long and detracts from the rest of the article. As for the peer review...I'll see what I can do.--_{ZXCVBNM [TALK]} 17:44, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Harvest Moon: New Enter The Moon

Hey i thought id ask for your input seen as you seem to be one who knows a bit about the harvest moon games. I started a section on the vg wikiproject. i just need some comments in regards to the article in question. Thanks Salavat (talk) 04:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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FYI, I reverted your edit to Jade (Mortal Kombat). If you see a problem, please let me know so that I can address it. Cheers,--79.73.19.255 (talk) 18:48, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I just didn't want to be taken as an impersonator, that's all.--O'delaquatique (talk) 19:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

And thanks again for the welcome.--O'delaquatique (talk) 19:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello again. Just so you know, the reason I edited the comments of User:TJ Spyke above is because I thought "The signature said 7:29, where he said the time was 2:30 I presume he meant 2:29." I'm only attempting to be slightly accurate, that's all.--O'delaquatique (talk) (contributions) (email) 17:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: New SMB music source

Not sure on the image. You'd need some seriously crucial rationale on that for it to pass. Gary King (talk) 23:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Re:Moto Racer Advance

I'm about two weeks late getting back to you on this; my computer took died and there was trouble getting the new part.

I looked into it but as far as I can find, Adeline Software was the only developer. That's at least what the GameSpy and IGN reviews listed -- the game box doesn't constitute a reliable source. Quite frankly, there isn't that much coverage about this game outside the IGN previews and the GameSpy review, but I'll see what I can find in the next couple of days... but if I can't find any information about another company being involved, such as DSI, I'll have to omit it from the article. -- Nomader ^(Talk) 22:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to join WP:FG

Hello Abryn, thank you for your contributions on articles related to Family Guy. I'd like to invite you to become a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Family Guy, a WikiProject aimed at improving the quality of Family Guy articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page for more information. Thanks!

/ edg ☺ ☭ 02:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD

Shouldn't the following articles be deleted? These: Mega Man (1990 video game) Mega Man III (DOS) Belasted (talk) 01:40, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Laud

		The Original Barnstar
		Your work on Corrupted Blood was full of win. Thanks! — pd_THOR | =/\= | 08:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Good work on that article, BTW. Protonk (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

• Also, take a look at these two posts on the game studies blog, Terra Nova: Computational Social Science and the Problem With Hakkar’s Blood and Run for your lives!. Both Dan Hunter and Dmitri Williams are experts in the field, so those blog posts can be cited in the article as need be. Protonk (talk) 21:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I signed up

Now, what is it exactly that you need work on? ForestAngel (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't keep arguing

It really isn't worth it. You aren't going to convince anyone else watching that you are more right, and you aren't going to convince him that he is wrong. he's just going to cycle through statements until you get upset enough to say something intemperate, then he'll hang on to that diff forever and bring it up whenever you have a related disagreement as proof that you aren't arguing in good faith. Unless you thrive on stress and frustration, I would just disengage. You can take that or leave it. Protonk (talk) 01:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

A Nobody (talk · contribs) and Ikip (talk · contribs) are immovable partisans well-known for repeating discredited stock arguments. While they are not trolls, arguing with them just floods Talk pages until every point is buried, and most readers are driven away. And yes, as Protonk points out above, they are always ready to wikilawyer outbursts from their frustrated adversaries. Don't take the WP:BAIT.

Everyone's heard these arguments before. Don't worry about giving them the last word. / edg ☺ ☭ 14:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

characters in Hollyoakes

You have recently prodded a number of apparently long-running characters from Hollyoakes. I would not myself say that every character in this immense series is worth an article but a/the major long running characters probably are--I would not give up on finding references until you had searched both the print and online material and reviews. But even if they are not the long-running characters are appropriate for a place in a combination article. Not the bare mentions of their name in the List of past characters from Hollyoaks, but 2 o 3 paragraph descriptions of the role in the various plot lines. If you know the series, you;d be a good choice for doing this. I want to point out the virtues of such articles: most people will support them. They preserve not destroy information, and sure you want do that? They serve to compromise what will otherwise be a battle continuing indefinitely. Decisions on individual articles are likely to be inconsistent and random. Individual pieces of content in combination articles do not need to show individual notability. And personally, I will not object to non-destructive merges--I will even support them against opposition & help you meet objections. I want to see a rational solution, which will not be found by trying to wear each other out. DGG (talk) 05:53, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

By the way

Rewrote the Mario creation section completely with reliable sources. You might take a look at the rest of the article though...it's kinda a royal, well, clusterfuck, making it hard to proceed without knowing what parts to delete out of it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 19:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Death of Heath Ledger

Hi there. I saw that you split Death of Heath Ledger out from Heath Ledger. However, you did not note in it the place from which you had copied the content. This violates the GFDL. There's some things you need to do when you split text out like this to ensure the attribution requirements of the license are met. They are detailed at Wikipedia:Splitting#Procedure. To enable you to do this properly, I have deleted the article. I hope this helps. - Mark 12:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

thanks!

well thank you it's nice to know i'm not the only one who loves itoi's work —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mother3lover2 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Braindead: Dead Alive DVD picture

I disagree with your assessment of my including a picture of the US DVD cover of Braindead/Dead Alive in the Braindead (film) article. The intention of the picture within the article is neither unnecessary nor is it "slanting" the article toward US readers. One of the purposes of any picture to be placed on a Wikipedia page is that the subject of discussion can be easily identified for the reader. My including the picture of the Dead Alive DVD cover is meant to help American users to know that they are on the page they intended to find. But it does not slant the article. If I included a US poster for Dead Alive in the infobox, when the film is clearly a New Zealand film originally titled Braindead, that would irrefutably be a slant on the article for US readers. But by adding an unobtrusive, small thumbnailed picture of the retitled video for North American audiences this is not a slant. It merely assists American and Canadian users in identifying the subject.

Also, I find issue with your argument "if the situation were reversed, we would not see an Aussie cover." That is absolutely unture: If a film, released in America first under one title, were rereleased in New Zealand or Australia, the UK, or any other major English speaking, film producing country then absolutely we should see a thumbnail added for that change in title (as long as the main infobox reflects the title of origin). The reason for this is the same as I mentioned above. English speaking Wikipeida users, no matter what their country, will benefit in their search for a subject with the inclusion of a picture of the release in their country's version of the poster or video package. I have also included this argument in the discussion page for the article in question. Danleary25 (talk) 04:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

re: Proposed new article: "Used games"

I'm in the dark about this. I hate to trouble you, but you could you send me some links regarding this controversy? Thank you. Belasted (talk) 21:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Rumble Pak games removal

Hey, New Age Retro Hippie. Why did you remove the list of compatible Nintendo DS games from the Rumble Pak article? You left the compatible Nintendo 64 games list in, and it's quite a bit larger than the DS list. Why? -Sesu Prime (talk) 05:27, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Why, New Age Retro Hippie, why? Why remove all the Rumble Pak lists? Why? -Sesu Prime (talk) 06:09, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources

I had since reverted my own edit when I looked below and found them. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 19:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Civilization II

Hello! Perhaps it would be beneficial to discuss an issue on a talk page before making such a major edit to an article, as you recently did with Civilization II. Offhand, I see no reason why this information should have been deleted, and, as you provided no justification or opinions on the issue at all, I have no idea what your reasons were. --Ericdn (talk) 21:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Venice (video game)

Hello! Perhaps it would be beneficial to discuss an issue on a talk page before making such a major edit to an article, as you recently did with Venice (video game). Offhand, I see no reason why this information should have been deleted, and, as you provided no justification or opinions on the issue at all, I have no idea what your reasons were. - JAF1970 (talk) 15:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

EU and PAL

Hello New Age Retro Hippie, I noticed that you changed "EU" to "PAL" in the infobox of the article Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland. Couldn't that make people think that the game was also released in Australia and New Zealand, which are part of the PAL region? As far as I know, the game wasn't released there. And even if it was, the release dates for Europe and Australasia are often different. --Grandy02 (talk) 18:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

i would first like to point out that there are many people out there who use Wikipedia for information about HM games. you completely slaughtered EVERY HM page there was leaving each with just a simple paragraph or two that no one will read anyway. the list of characters, animals, etc. have been a part of the page for years. (i know i've been an HM fan for years). and many people were very offended when you blatently disregarded and deleted pretty much all information on all pages that many people find useful. so if you would, stop deleting USEFUL information that obviously belongs in an encyclopedia.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psycomunkeh (talk • contribs) 22:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The VG Barnstar
		For your excellent work on the real-life aspects of video game topics. Such topics are arguably more encyclopedic than the average video game article, and have been generally underdeveloped. Just wanted to let you know that your efforts do not go unnoticed and are greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work. (Guyinblack25 talk 15:19, 13 March 2009 (UTC))

For the Record

it was not just a list when you first deleted it. there was information on each character. especially in the RFF section that had lots. and yes, lists of animals in the game are helpful. readers still want to know what animals are new and which old ones are still there. and people who know nothing about it and have never played the game that look at the page would still like to have a list of characters. PLUS players still check and read the page too. so you can keep deleting valuable info (you KILLED every bit of info for both EAM and RFF and should be ashamed in yourself) while I who actually care about readers will keep adding it back like it has been for the past 5 or 6 years. get over it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psycomunkeh (talk • contribs) 22:01, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Pong Toss! Frat Party Games

Hey New Age Hippie. I'm sorry for what I said on your peer review. In fact I'm helping with the article by working on the Reception and fixing the references. Hope you'll like the help. GamerPro64 (talk) 23:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

RE:

the characters and animals are important simply because theyre what people want to know. if someone is thinking of buying this game two big things theyre going to look at are characters and animals. characters simply because its everyones favorite part of the game and animals because with EAM that is the central idea. it has focused a lot around the animals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psycomunkeh (talk • contribs) 16:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

RE:

no. but what i can tell you is that everything in that buyer's guide is what people want to know. they need more info than, "This is another HM game" and "It's release date is this." they want to know about what's different, how to play, who's in it, all that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psycomunkeh (talk • contribs) 21:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:

yes by "they" i mean the uninformed. and yes wikipedia should include all information like that. it is supposed to be an encyclopedia. if you have ever taken a look at an encyclopedia it does in fact include all information. Wikipedia is supposed to be one simple source that anyone, informed or uninformed can go to in order to obtain all information instead of checking scattered sites about the web. for as long as i have played HM games wikipedia has included all the information you deleted. when i first saw that the EAM page was like that, i immediately thought that it looked like it was a barron page and it looked like we knew nothing about the game. as a person who you are describing that doesnt play, if they saw what YOU turned the page into they would think exactly that. that it is a new, unknown game we know nothing about. and thats not the idea of Wikipedia. the idea is to have all information and all knowledge included.

if you're really that opposed feel free to keep deleting the info. i'll just keep adding it right back because it is what the reader's want. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psycomunkeh (talk • contribs) 23:28, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

RE:

i would be more prone to follow your requests if i had respect for you. the fact of the matter is that characters do not make an article a walkthrough. its a listing of characters in the game. a walkthrough would be if i started listing birthdates, likes, dislikes, where they're found, how to woo them, what their heart events are. but no. its a simple list of characters with a short snipet of description. that is the main reason people go to Wikipedia and search HM. so therefore i'm keeping it. i'm a stubborn person. and no matter how many times you delete it, no matter how many people who would agree with you (which wouldn't compare with the people who would agree with me) its going to stay. i can keep adding it back even if you keep deleting it. and nothing you say or do will change that. that information stays. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Psycomunkeh (talk • contribs) 02:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Ungh, enough of this batting around. You guys have got to take this to the article talkpage as neither of you will convince the other that what you're doing is right and could end up descending into a two-man editwar of wildly lame proportions. This requires a much bigger consensus for or against inclusion of the deleted content so bring it up on the article talkpage and hash it out there with other editors. I'm far from picking sides on this, just a neutral party watching a content dispute being discussed in the wrong places. treelo _radda 02:33, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:2007 in Iraq

I have started a discussion at Talk:2007 in Iraq that I thought you might want to weigh in on. Thanks --jhanCRUSH 00:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Condense template

Per your comment on Rune Factory 2, what about if you use {{condense|section}} it reads at the start "This section may be divided into too many small sub-sections considering its overall length and importance." Most of the time the sub-sections are 1 paragraph or less when this would be applied which normally get merged.じんない 01:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

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PK Hack

Do you think PK Hack deserves its own article or to be in the EarthBound article? I think it deserves some mention, but I'm not sure where or how much. Thanks. Belasted (talk) 04:13, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Category:5th Cell

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Hello!

I see you doing lots of work on video game articles, so I thought you might be a good person to ask for an opinion here! I'm looking to merge List of Super Nintendo Entertainment System emulators and then probably List of Nintendo Entertainment System emulators into List of video game console emulators, but I want to get a few peoples' opinions first. Thanks in advance for any input.  :) Lychosis ^T/C 12:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Moving Notepad article, re: not up-to-date template

has there been new information released about version 2? i don't understand why the template was added. plz advise (or at least provide info in the talk section as linked by the template) so the article can be fixed. :3 Khisanth (talk) 21:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Images of Little Mac in Punch-Out!! series article.

Someone's adding a gallery of images showing different looks of Little Mac in this article, but some others (especially me) kept removing the gallery, but the people adding it don't care, and need to know the true reason why it is unnecessary to add galleries of images like this in video game articles. Parrothead1983 (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Case Closed: The Mirapolis Investigation

I'm guessing you wouldn't happen to know if a release date has been set or planned for this game in North America, would you? I've been dying to get a copy. Unfortunately the idea of buying a converter and buying a PAL copy just doesn't appeal to me... CarpetCrawler^{message me} 05:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Darn, that stinks. I've been dying to play the game! For some reason the show is big in every country but the US... which probably explains why it hasn't been released yet. I'll take a wild guess and say that if no new is heard by the summer, then it won't come out. I haven't been this dissappointed since I finally heard that Doshin the Giant wasn't coming here! CarpetCrawler^{message me} 06:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Ace Attorney template

Many navboxes across Wikipedia are including release years to help the many readers find the game their looking for. This type of information will eventually be included in all video game infoboxes. Ace Attorney is just the next on the list. I am aware that there is not an official rule stating it must be included, but the release years are a coming trend across a lot of Wikipedia's navboxes. You're one of very few people I have come across that has had a problem with it. :) --Meph (talk) 20:21, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Kirby Inhaling image

You deleted the image of Kirby inhaling from the Kirby (character) article, saying you didn't think it had strong rationale. That image demonstrated Kirby's strong suction power and the fact that he can swallow enemies of the same size as himself. If you haven't seen a Kirby game in action, that's a very useful image! Please restore it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kubito (talk • contribs) 07:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Master of Illusion Express: Nensha Camera

There is no mention of Master of Illusion Express: Nensha Camera in the Master of Illusion page. Please either make the redirect mean something, or I'll list it for deletion. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 01:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Like I said, if you can provide some context for the redirect, then it isn't so blatantly nonsensical. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 01:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

If I come back tomorrow and it still doesn't give any context, I'll list it for RfD. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 02:02, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2009_May_24#Master_of_Illusion_Express:_Nensha_Camera. Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 05:40, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Pichu

I know you're still working on an article for him, so I wanted to point out I recently added some development information that turned up in a G4 interview recently to his subsection on the list, should give you more of a running start if you can find some reception section to build an article with.

Sadly in my case I found some reception for MissingNO., but not enough to build the rest of the article yet. :\--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Scribblenauts from neogaf

It would be great if an reliable source summarized the story so that we could then include it (not word for word). I am expecting the game to have E3 buzz when the "Best of show" parts start coming out. --MASEM (t) 01:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I was able to to find a couple articles that included that story (not word for word), so it's in the article. --MASEM (t) 03:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

And also now have a couple of RSes to describe the wallpaper artwork from the story. --MASEM (t) 20:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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Re:List of Kirby media

I'm going through the backlog of messages on my talk page that I missed while I was gone -- sorry I didn't notice your note before. Haha, if I had planned on working on it so thoroughly, I would've let you know beforehand, but it was completely a spur of the moment thing. I had originally just planned on adding to the lead, and then that led to another line, and then another... well, it's too late to collaborate on that, but if you want to collaborate on any other article, I'm game. My two FLCs right now are winding to a close, so if you need help on any article just let me know. -- Nomader ^(Talk) 00:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Dr. J

I made the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde section more sensible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.33.99 (talk) 01:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of Roseanne characters

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lacks references in 3rd party sources. Reads like a fan site.

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Merge clean-up

Please remove the wikiproject templates from the talk pages of the Star Wars game articles you're merging into the List of... --EEMIV (talk) 01:03, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Afd note

Hi new age an article youve created has been posted on AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Game Boy games in the Castlevania series. I couldnt tell if youve been informed or not. There seems to be some discussion about why the merge was done. Anyway your input would be great. Happy editing Ottawa4ever (talk) 02:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Castlevania Dracula X

'k, but if you're really going to combine 3 fairly different articles together, could you at least keep the original pictures and whatnot? Seriously, having multiple articles on the same subject tends to do more good than harm, especially when they have different content (which they do). I've said it before.

And PLEASE talk about your merges before you do them. Suddenly upsetting the balance isn't nice or fair. 75.177.21.40 (talk) 10:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Star Wars video game merges

Did you engage in any discussion before beginning your merges? I don't see any. The page you are creating, List of games based on the Star Wars prequel trilogy, seems an odd creation, as these games aren't really closely enough related to share one article. As a repository for collecting these items together, it is redundant as there is already a List of Star Wars video games that clearly marks out the prequels. I fail to see how bringing these disparate games together in one article is of any utility to Wikipedia. Rhindle The Red (talk) 16:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I am glad you have abandoned your "experiment", but next time please clean up after yourself. A bot has "fixed" dozens of redirects so they point to the new page and they all need to be put back where they were. I'm taking care of it, but in the future, don't be so quick to redirect pages until you know they will stick. Rhindle The Red (talk) 16:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Link

Hey Hippie, I noticed that you reivewed Link (The Legend of Zelda) and wanted to know if you failed it. I agree on what you said and just wanted to see if you forgot to fail it. GamerPro64 (talk) 00:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

O.k. But since you started the review just to comment, you have to finish it. GamerPro64 (talk) 02:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

re:EB64 alt title

Hello New Age Retro Hippie. Yes, I still have it. Are you looking for a scan or do you just need the data for a reference? I can get you a scan tomorrow. -sesuPRIME 08:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd feel better providing you with a scan so you can decide if anything in it is noteworthy. Anyway here's the reference:

{{cite journal|author=''Game Informer'' staff|title=Preview: ''Earthbound 3: The Final Days of the Pig King''|journal=[[Game Informer]]|date=November 1999|issue=79|page=44}}

Note that unlike the SNES game's title, the "b" in "Earthbound 3" is written in lower case. Cheers! -sesuPRIME 09:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry it's a day late, but here is the scan of the page. Because of Photobucket's file size limits, the text is nearly too small to read, so here are closeups of the top and bottom. Cheers! -sesuPRIME 02:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

About Doc Louis's Punch-Out!!

Sorry about calling you a 'dummy.'

Let's discuss this in a mature manner.

Doc Louis's Punch-Out!!, while it 'builds off' of the Punch-Out!! Wii game and will play and look the exact same, it's a separate game. It has its own title, "Doc Louis's Punch-Out!!", while the Wii game is a different title, "Punch-Out!!." The Punch-Out!! Wii game has a rating of E10+, but Doc Louis's Punch-Out!! is still rated RP. See, every separate game will get its own rating. I mean, this one could be an E-rated game. But either way, it's a separate piece of software from the Wii game, and this game will work for every Wii system, whether they have the Punch-Out!! Wii game or not. The Punch-Out!! Wii game won't do anything with Doc Louis's Punch-Out!!. See what I mean?

Since this is a different game from Punch-Out!! Wii, it deserves its own article and a link to it on the Punch-Out!! Wii page. It is not an "add-on" or "DLC" for Punch-Out!! Wii. It's its own separate game for Platinum Club Nintendo members.

Please reply on my Talk page. Combo Pwner (talk) 18:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Merging material

Hello,

I noticed your recent attempt to merge some Star Wars articles failed. I don't have an opinion about that, but I guess it was against consensus.

However, what no one seems to have told you is that your mergers actually broke attribution. It's not an issue here since they were all undone, but I thought I should alert you in case you do more mergers in the future. Do properly perform a merge you must following the follow steps:

1. Note where the material is being merged to in the edit summary of the page being turned into a redirect ("merging useful content to [[Destination]]")
2. Add {{R from merge}} to the newly redirected page
3. When completing the merge note where it was merged from in the edit summary ("merging in content from [[Source]]")

Please see also WP:MERGE. If you have any questions, feel free to let me know.

Thanks, ThaddeusB (talk) 20:08, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Captain Falcon

Since you thought the article was too bad, I reverted it to mostly what it was when it was a good article. Purplebackpack89 (talk) 15:49, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

'That's absolutely not the JP title. :p'

oops, lol, double 'my bad' on that one, then -- i thought i'd undid something legitimate too when I undid the prior edit. sorry 'bout that. ^^;; -- Khisanth (talk) 15:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

ProD of Goldeneye: Source

In response: 1. Define "low quality." Are you referring to the game itself, or the Wikipedia Article? In that spirit, it seems like a game still in development would have a Wikipedia page referring only to partial development. Most games are in development for years, and if, say, Doom, was being developed now, it seems logical that its Wikipedia page would only include development milestones, as specific information about gameplay would be rapidly changing (it is, after all, in beta.)

2. First, I'd like to point out that the usage of the word "notable" is highly subjective (no insult intended.)Second, games based off of other notable games by themselves become notable- I'm not intending to be a poster boy for id software, but Wolfenstein (2009) is a remake of Wolfenstein 3D, and the use of the Wolfenstein name is enough for notability. Replace Wolfenstein with Goldeneye, and again note that beta productions are not usually noticed by the masses- beta testers for private games don't usually run to the internet talking about experiences: the media does that, and even at that, the final release draws the most attention. Even at that, just because a game is in extended beta doesn't mean that it is worthless/unnotable.

3. One source may not be all that promising, but that doesn't mean that the game is unnoticed. Note also that the page links to the Goldeneye: Source websites, which provide a wealth of information about the game if you take the time to read them, and that, it would seem, is the true purpose of the article. In the world today, when someone wants to look something up, they either go to Wikipedia or to Google, and Google points back to Wikipedia. The page is meant to spread information about the game for those who want to find it, and that's the same reason why the original Goldeneye 007 page links to it. The page may be invaluable for those who want to find, essentially, a port of Goldeneye 007 to the PC, and for that reason the page deserves to exist.

Obviously you can have a different opinion, but I believe your response, sir, justified an explanation.

No insult intended, EternalKnight —Preceding unsigned comment added by EternalKnight (talk • contribs) 19:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup List of DSi/Wii games pages

You may be interested in this discussion: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Cleanup#List of DSi / Wii games pages. Cnilep (talk) 13:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

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Mother 3

Remember Link (The Legend of Zelda)? Like that article, you're reviewing Mother 3 and you didn't finish it. So are you going to pass it or fail it? GamerPro64 (talk) 19:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

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Glados

Two things I would include include a couple of points on the Portal page in the reception about the dramaturgy and instructional scaffolding.

Sure, there's probably a few more things that can be added too, but I think you can safely move the article into mainspace - there's no question on notability for it. This would also provide the opportunity for an image and I'd recommend a sound clip since there's a section describing how the voice sounds. --MASEM (t) 22:40, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

You should be all set - the history merge is done. --MASEM (t) 23:06, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Still Alive

Since GlaDOS is your work, figured I'd bring it up. I suggested on the article talk page to split it off into it's own article as its current form feels very out of place within the context of the character (which can stand on its own two feet without it it would seem). What do you think?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 20:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Vortigaunt

This article was rated B-class from C-class (after the latter class's inception), after a request for assessment was carried out properly. No-one appreciates driveby assessments such as what you did, especially when they start needlessly saying it can be merged! A B-class article is supposed to be "mostly complete", and can allow for a section requiring expansion. The article has a creation section; it might be short but it contains referenced material and appropriate commentary to the subject. From WP:VG/A:

B-class: "The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. It contains a large proportion of the material necessary for an A-Class article, although some sections may need expansion, and some less important topics may be missing."

While it is light on development at present, the article is not missing that information entirely as you imply in a way to fall foul of the above. Someoneanother's assessment is still valid. -- Sabre (talk) 21:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

1. It can't be merged? An article, especially one of fiction, has to have notability in reception and creation, not one or the other.
2. It has a couple lines of content in said section, and it's all very base information and it all deals in voice acting. The section also hasn't been expanded on in more than a year. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, there's no time limit on work here or any major faults to warrant merging, there's development information in other forms such as merchandising, and voice acting is still a part of character conception. But enough of this. The reason that the expand tag was at the top was because I was having trouble finding sources and wanted some help, and you've just done that. The information you added was invaluable and very much appreciated, more than enough for me to drop any argument I might have. I suggest we put this behind us with no hard feelings. In fact, in a complete turn around for finding those sources, have something: -- Sabre (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

		The Special Barnstar
		For finding much-needed sources to expand the development section in the article on Vortigaunts. Sabre (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Kirby's Dreamland up for GA sweeps

Just a shout about that, and it really could use some more reception and citations in the article as there are several unreferenced bits at this point.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 17:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Meh, I just don't think I can improve it much more than it already has been. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 23:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Portal articles

While "Still Alive" probably can work, I'm not seeing much to sustain "the cake is a lie"; being a meme, it needs to be more about the impact of the meme outside of the gaming community. (for contrast, with something like Keyboard Cat which has appeared outside of the internet underbelly). I'm not saying it isn't possible, but it needs a lot more sources. I think the Cube is going to be just as hard. I doubt you'll get any more for Chell or the like. --MASEM (t) 13:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Regarding your idea suggestion on WT:VG

I would be interested in going through stub/start class articles and attempting to improve them. Collaboration of the Week already exists as someone else pointed out on WT:VG, however that only focuses on Mid and High importance, and focuses on going for high level quality ratings.

Perhaps we could do something separate and different, working on all the stubs/start class articles to push them up to C class and B class? This could then allow other editors who are well experienced with the manual of style and such to more easily find good candidates for GA and Featured status to work on, so it could be beneficial to the Wikiproject.

Personally I am not a great article writer, but I think I could help moving article upwards on the lower end of the quality scale. Drop me a message on my talk page if you think I could help. :) --Taelus (talk) 12:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Quest TF

WP:DQ - Check it out. It's just been created so it might need discussion on its ultimate scope and whatnot. Info on how to add yourself is on the page. Feel free to make any suggestions on the talk page.

PS - you need to archive your page.陣内_Jinnai 08:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Birdo links that should be useful

• [2]
• [3] Appareance of Birdo in the Super Mario Bros. Super Show! cartoon. While you can't cite the link, {{cite episode}} will work just fine.
• [4]

That's all I found on a runthrough, hopefully some of it's useful. Sorry for the delay in responding, wasn't ignoring ya just have a FAC for MissingNo., a slew of soulcalibur character articles, and getting the boot from my home weighing me down. X_x.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Template talk:Star Fox series

Ello,

I left a message about linking to lists here. RP9 (talk) 20:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)