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January 20

Is it okay to ask fellow editors for the sources they cited/found for an article or map of theirs?

If someone made an accurate map of an empire based on the sources that he/she read and put it in the infobox of the article, is it okay to ask that editor for the sources he or she found/cited for the map they made and claimed to be accurate? Keeby101 (talk) 03:32, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Using maps and similar sources in Wikipedia articles is linked from WP:OR and has good information on using maps. -- Jreferee (talk) 04:24, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

And yes, it's OK to ask them for their sources, but try not to make it sound like you think they made it all up. StuRat (talk) 04:27, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for answering my question! :D Kirby (talk) 06:26, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

ethnic composition for all census of Guizhou and Yunnan

Where can I get ethnic composition for all census of Guizhou and Yunnan?--Kaiyr (talk) 10:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Cotton socks

I require pure cotton socks. No elastine, no polyester blend (no matter how small a percentage) but I cannot locate any. Are they still manufactured?114.75.19.216 (talk) 13:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Sock Shop sell a range of socks (here) advertised as being 100% cotton, and I'm sure that other retailers have a similar range. Tevildo (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I've shopped online myself for socks. In my case, I'm OK with cotton/poly blends, but I don't like elastic, either, as it degrades when I use bleach in the washing machine, which is the only way I know to get white socks white again. StuRat (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

To help generate useful responses, the OP's IP address geolocates to Victoria, Australia. HiLo48 (talk) 20:50, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Looking for starting strength 3rd edition in Barnes and Noble

Hello there, I am looking for Starting Strength 3rd edition By Mark Rippetoe in Barnes and Noble. This book is available in amazon.com. But I have to purchase this book via third party publisher who only imports foreign books through Barnes and Noble. When I place my order to the publisher, I usually provide him the books link from Barnes and Noble. As for the Starting Strength 3rd edition, the site shows vague link of this book and some of this book link claims weird price such as 45 to 79 dollars. How can I get this book from Barnes and Noble? Thank you--180.234.230.29 (talk) 17:01, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Starting Strength is, essentially, self-published (Rippetoe owns Aasgaard, the publisher). They seem only to have online distribution deals with Amazon in the US (and not in other countries). Not, it seems, with BN or other online stores - so what you get on them is their "marketplace" - 2nd hand (usually older editions) at a variety of weird prices. If you get a book from one of these vendors (it's not from BN directly, which might mess up the arrangement your importer has) there will likely be expensive postage charges too (Starting Strength is large, heavy book). So you don't have an easy option. Some things that might be possible for you:

• get it from Amazon.com rather than BN
• get it direct from the publisher http://aasgaardco.com/
• buy the Kindle edition on Amazon.com (the kindle edition is much cheaper too); remember that you don't need a Kindle to read this, just a Windows PC (or an iOS or Android device)

-- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 17:42, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Urgh, but Kindle ebooks sometimes have geographical restrictions, so I don't know that the Kindle edition would work for you in Bangladesh. -- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 17:48, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

So perhaps the best idea is to email Aasgaard's customer service and ask them where in Bangladesh you can get the book - maybe they have a local partner somewhere. -- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 17:52, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

• • Yeah, you are right. Kindle does not work in Bangladesh. Well, I am going to contact their customer service to make it available in B&N. Let's see what happens. Thank you--180.234.244.149 (talk) 11:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Some one is sending People magazine. I do not want this magazine.

?.#BXNRYCG++++++++++++ECRLOT++C-035 #0419670# PW0573MI00 A DEC14 7370 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CCCE:A3C0:A190:3E3:480E:1DC8 (talk) 17:03, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that, but this is Wikipedia. Nothing to do with People magazine. Please direct your complaint there. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:30, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I sometimes get magazines I did not order. Not sure how it comes about, but I'm not charged for them, so I don't feel the need to complain. —Nelson Ricardo (talk) 07:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Some magazines get dramatically more revenue from advertising than they do from selling the magazines. Since advertisers care greatly about the number of people who read the magazine (which is roughly approximated by the number of copies that are delivered) - it's in the interests of some magazines to continue to send them to you long after your subscription has run out in order to inflate their circulation numbers and thereby pull in more advertising dollars. This is particularly the case for some low-circulation professional magazines. There are a couple of magazines that I've been getting for over 5 years without paying for them - and they've even accepted change-of-address forms from me without demanding payment. One of them keeps saying "Fill out our readership survey and get a 6 month subscription free!" - and even though I don't fill it out, the magazine keeps coming.

That said, I'd be surprised if "People" was like that - but it's definitely possible. The magazine has a circulation of around 42 million copies - and a full-page advert costs $300,000 to $450,000 depending on where it is in the magazine and what special issues you put it in. So very roughly one cent per page of adverts...there is a lot of adverts in that magazine - so they are probably making around 50 cents in advertising revenue from each issue they deliver. Figuring postage and printing costs - they can probably make money doing that - even if they give the magazine away for free to people whom they can't sucker into paying $2.50 a copy for it!

SteveBaker (talk) 21:58, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Heroin Shelf Life

Does heroin have a shelf life? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.23.200.126 (talk) 18:51, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

If you mean heroin as an illegal drug, considering that it is invariably cut with all sorts of crap, any of which could cause degradation, the answer has to be 'maybe' - there are too many unknowns to give a sensible answer (beyond the obvious one of 'don't take heroin'...). As for legally-prescribed heroin - normally referred to as diamorphine - we don't give medical advice. Read the leaflet that comes with the prescription. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:00, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

It is legally prescribed in several countries other than the USA, and searching diamorphine "shelf life" indicates that it does have a stated shelf life, which as Andy pointed out should be stated in a leaflet with the prescribed drug. Edison (talk) 20:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

36 months. No clue how that can be taken as medical advice. Advising someone to read a prescription leaflet is more along the lines of advising they get a prescription. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:54, January 20, 2014 (UTC)

Argument Over Medical Advice
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Hardly. It's saying "IF you get a prescription, heed any advice and warnings given by your doctor, the pharmacist, the leaflet in the box, and what's written on the outside of the box". That's what's called common sense, not medical advice. The same basic approach is used when purchasing a toaster or a TV or a vibrator. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:50, 20 January 2014 (UTC) All of the toasters, TVs, and vibrators my doctor advised me to buy from the pharmacist broke pretty soon, because I didn't read the leaflets in the box, so I can attest that Jack is right on this point. KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 20:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC) Sure, but there was no "if". Just an "or". Google it or get a prescription to read the label. Not even "Ask your doctor if heroin is right for you." If the question was "Should I still take this heroin I was prescribed in 2004?", the leaflet answer would be great. But this isn't so complicated. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:36, January 20, 2014 (UTC) Not trying to rag on Andy's answer, by the way. Using it more in a pro-non-advice way than anti-advice. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:40, January 20, 2014 (UTC) When Andy wrote "Read the leaflet that comes with the prescription", that means "IF you have been to a doctor and been prescribed diamorphine, and IF you've purchased some from a chemist using said prescription, THEN read the leaflet that comes with the prescription". Andy's advice obviously doesn't apply to anyone who hasn't been through such a process or for whom such a process is irrelevant, and it can't be read as an exhortation to enter into such a process. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:03, 21 January 2014 (UTC) That's a damn fine disclaimer. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:23, January 22, 2014 (UTC) How silly. If I say "Don't text while driving", I am not urging you to immediately get into your car, right now, so that you can choose not to text while driving it. It is a general precaution which may not apply to you personally at all; you may not have a drivers licence; you may be legally blind; you may have your own chauffeur; you may not own a mobile phone ...... Andy's advice to read the leaflet in a box of pills is in that same category of general precaution. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 04:07, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

January 21

Wool

Do we have an article (or a section of an article) about sensitivity to wool? I am not talking about allergies, but rather the sensation of prickly heat. When I was about 5 years old, my mother used to knit jumpers for me, and she wouldn't let me take them off, even though I was crying with the horrible sensation I was feeling when wearing wool (I feel guilty saying this, because she put so much time, effort, and loving care into making them for her youngest son - me). These days, at the grand old age of 41, I never wear wool, but still keep getting Christmas and birthday presents of woolly jumpers from family members, and I can't wear them. KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 20:48, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

We don't give neither medical advice nor diagnosis. If I suffered from this, I would think about a mild form of Atopic eczema which included wool.--Aspro (talk) 21:45, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I am not asking for medical advice or diagnosis, as I just don't wear wool anymore, so the problem is solved. Also, I know about atopic dermatitis because an ex-girlfriend's 6 year old daughter in Japan had the problem (it is very common in Japan, because of lack of ventilation in modern apartments and housing), but only on her face, and that could not possibly have been caused by wool. I never developed a rash from prickly heat, but I did have a bout of heat rash on my legs at about age 8, but that was caused by sitting next to the heater during winter here in the UK. I don't get it now. KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 22:00, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

This sounds like it is not sever enough, to take one off the the quack doctor but enough to make wool a no-go. Yet, discus this with your local friendly quackdoctor. His learned diagnose make give you a guilt free way of telling friends and family to – forget the wool. It is therefore aContraindication ( on medial advice ) to keeping warm. Then you can advise them that silk shirts and ties, cotton underpants are suitable gift substitute, as is alcohol and Cuban cigars.--Aspro (talk) 22:10, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but I only get 20 minutes with him, and I have far more deadly serious issues (literally) to talk to him about - or rather, for him to talk to me about. I'm just interested, that's all. KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 22:17, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Humm... lack of ventilation. Is her condition worse at some times of the year than others? Turn the lights off and shine a laser (the cheap pointer things). Are the little speckles in the beam? Increasing the humidity and plugging in an air ionizer should drop the flotsam out of the air. Sorry about the other issues.--Aspro (talk) 22:23, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I actually did a study on atopy, and it seems that it can be caused by insect droppings or the remains of dead insects and general house dust flying around the air because of air conditioners. She had the problem all year round. There is no reason to open the windows if you have air conditioning. I would never shine a laser pointer at her face because it could blind her (I did actually have one). KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 22:34, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I have just understood what you were saying. With a laser pointer, you don't see the beam itself, just the red dot where you are pointing it, unless the room is full of smoke. KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 22:41, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

To get back to the point, scratchy wool is scratchy because the fibres comprising the wool are coarse and of varying lengths. Wools such as merino or cashmere have fine fibres that all tend to be one length. I learned this many years ago, having the same problem as the OP. This blog explains more, and also how wool is treated nowadays so that it is less scratchy. I just buy synthetic these days! --TammyMoet (talk) 08:54, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything useful on WP. I did find this brief mention at WebMD [1], but the best thing I've found is this [2], from the Washington State government. It quickly outlines the main factors in skin irritation by clothing, and has several references to scholarly research (apparently there is a whole journal titled Contact Dermitis Dermatitis, evidence that this is a subtle and difficult subject :) SemanticMantis (talk) 15:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

May I politely suggest the book was actually called Contact Dermatitis? Richard Avery (talk) 15:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

(Indeed, corrected. But the journal has been running since at least 1985, so calling it a "book" seems selling it short :) SemanticMantis (talk) 16:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

January 22

Was Actress Audrey Hepburn Saved By Jesus You Never Gave Me An Answer?

Troll
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Was the great actress Audrey Hepburn saved by Jesus? You never gave me this answer. <class="autosigned">— Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.19.104 (talk) 18:13, 22 January 2014 (UTC) It is an answer that only Jesus and Audrey Hepburn can answer. However, if you are asking if Audrey Hepburn professed some form of Christian faith, then this non-reliable source claims no particular affiliation. Mingmingla (talk) 18:55, 22 January 2014 (UTC) Actually we provided a wide variety of answers last time you asked this, here. Feel free to choose whichever one satisfies you most. If you want a definitive answer you will need to consult Jesus yourself, or possibly Audrey Hepburn, as Mingmingla has already observed. Wikipedia does not rely on primary sources. - Karenjc (talk) 19:47, 22 January 2014 (UTC) This OP is a troll who has also vandalised my user page. They should be given no shrift at all. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 20:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Vehicle manufacturers by make and model made between 1970 - 2013

Hello, I'm working on a research project and cannot find this specific information. The listing should be for cars and trucks only. Can you provide me with this information? Thank you. Susan Sawka — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.234.189.68 (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You can check the Wikipedia article's for each manufacturer. For example, going to Ford will lead to List_of_Ford_vehicles which lists the models Ford produced by year. RudolfRed (talk) 21:10, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

And Category:Motor vehicle manufacturers will help you to find those articles - there are an awful lot of them! Alansplodge (talk) 13:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

January 23

How to find private persons in other countries?

I want to find a specific person in China. Have this information name: XXXXXX Born: XXXXXX Lives in: XXXXXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXXXXX. What do i do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.194.128.229 (talk) 00:37, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I have removed the personal information you posted. I do not believe you should post personal information about private individuals on Wikipedia without their permission. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:47, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

International directory assistance from Sweden is 118 118.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:46, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

BUS 80 and I-80 sign replacement

Our article said the actual sign change on BUS 80 in Sacramento and I-80 to replaced the deleted I-880 is November 1983. I am confused is it 1983 or 1982, I tried to find a reliable source for November 1983 but it is unsourced. Interstate-Guide said the sign creation is 1982. Which one is more accurate 1982 or 1983?? I know that 1981 was the year it changed legislately only, when I emailed Daniel Faign and Cameroon Kaiser they taught me 1981 is when BUS 80 and I-80 to deleted I-880 was changed legislatively by documentary in 1981 which is not actually signed in reality. To actually signed can't even occur with next few weeks or few months, first they need to get the money, then engineers have to draw inspections to measure how many overhead signs they need to replace so CAD can make the signs. Not only that, it may take few years if the soonest before Caltrans can actually do the sign replacement.--69.226.44.206 (talk) 00:58, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm guessing that English isn't your first language. If you can write the question in your native language, maybe we can translate it into English so it makes more sense. The confusing part, for me, is that you are talking about the 1980's like they are in the future, not the past.

If I understand your question correctly, it may well have taken years to complete the changeover, so each year might be partly correct. StuRat (talk) 03:14, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

looking for a open minded forum for discussion

WP:DENY per this. OrganicsLRO 13:15, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
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I have a Prophecy about the Future, and I want to find People to discuss it seriously, think about ways to avert a specific Event foretold by this prophecy, ands can help me to implement this Ways. Where could I find them? --AlaneOrenProst (talk) 11:42, 23 January 2014 (UTC) Shouldn't the premonition have shown you where to disseminate your warning of said future event? Kinda pointless otherwise... Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 12:09, 23 January 2014 (UTC) it don't work that way. Although the Prophecy is Vast, it's still limited, and the early 21. Century iis far from being a point of focus, rather the periphery. There's not that much said about now, especially about a single, unimportant Person like me.--AlaneOrenProst (talk) 12:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Please identify the GPS device

can someone please tell me which device is this, I am doing research work on gps and their technology,but little knowledge on device type and any other information in tis domain would be helpful http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/10/warrant-required-gps-trackers/ thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.220.67.205 (talk) 13:20, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

We have an article on GPS tracking unit, but I don't know which models the police use. If you are thinking of the "Starchase" device, then their website is here. Dbfirs 14:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC) Dbfirs 13:50, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

If you're talking about the specific GPS tracking unit shown in the photo, using info found there easily finds more details. In particular, a search for 'california gps tracker found' should lead to this story [3] which says it's probably a 'Sendum PT200 GPS tracker' with a custom (Revanche) battery. Besides some Sendum devices, the battery apparently works with some Nextel so it's possible some of those are used as well. Nil Einne (talk) 14:39, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Artemis

Did Mary, the mother of Jesus, ever worship or have statues of Artemis in her home?50.55.80.91 (talk) 17:53, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Artemis is only mentioned in the Bible in Act 19, a story about Paul in Ephesus. Rmhermen (talk) 18:40, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Assuming that Mary was a historical person and not a fictional character, we will never know anything about her for sure, since nothing written about her in the Bible or other Christian scriptures can be verified by other sources. Marco polo (talk) 20:08, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

If Mary is a fictional character then does that mean Jesus is a fictional character too? 202.177.218.59 (talk) 03:01, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

See historicity of Jesus Christ. Dismas|^(talk) 03:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

It is extremely unlikely,given that we rely on the Biblical presentation of her as being Jewish(attending the temple,having the baby Jesus circumcised,taking him to Jerusalem for the Passover) that she would have had a pagan statue in her house or taken to worshipping it-being that those are the first two of the Ten Commandments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.213.216 (talk) 04:39, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Also, according to at least Catholic dogma, not only was she the only non-divine human born without original sin (hence the Immaculate Conception), but she also never committed a sin post-birth (and worshipping false gods would definitely have qualified). -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 12:56, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Panning for gold in Suriname and Guyana

This short video was interesting and raised few questions for me. video

It looks like panning for gold along that river yields a lot of nuggets. A week of prospecting brings in about 10 ounces according to the article. If the manual haul is that much then I can only imagine what industrial mining would extract. So why haven't big mining companies taken over all those claims? Also if gold was around 1600 at the time of that video, then why are the miners only getting 25 dollars? Like 1-2%.

Gullabile (talk) 19:03, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

1) I'm skeptical that they normally find that much. That was probably a record week or something like that.

2) The "miners" probably don't own the land, and hence the gold, but are only hired to work there. The low amount they pay the workers is why it's cheaper than bringing in engineers and mining equipment. It may take longer to extract the gold this way, but at a lower total cost.

3) Gold nuggets in those places are worth less than refined gold in Europe, say, since they still have to be refined, shipped with security, distributed, etc. Taxes and bribes may need to be paid to get them out of those nations. Only getting cents on the dollar is also the case for other African resources, like coffee and cocoa.

4) And the miners, even if they do own the gold, have very little bargaining power individually. Compare to what you could get for gold at a WE BUY GOLD corner store, and it's pennies on the dollar, too. StuRat (talk) 20:25, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Suriname and Guyana are neighbouring countries in South America, Stu. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 23:58, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Oops. Since I'm an American, I've never had a geography class. We apparently need to have wars in those two nations, so I can find out where they are. :-) StuRat (talk) 03:08, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I hear they have weapons of mass bananafication. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:57, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Nuggets, especially larger ones, generally bring a premium over gold value (with the exception of Dahlonega gold, most American gold is only 18K or so, and the rest mainly silver, Dahlonega gold is 23 to 24K gold) -- fakers of pre-Columbian gold objects tend to make then the wrong alloy. Most gold is not found as discrete nuggets but as "dust" or small particles. And why in the world would anyone sell gold to a person at a kiosk in a shopping mall? Collect (talk) 16:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Obama care

is income the only basis for the healthcare subsidy or does cash and assets affect it also — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.85.95 (talk) 20:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

In the UK, cash and assets (over a modest level) do preclude subsidy for prescription, optician & dental charges, but I assume from your heading that you are asking about the USA. Dbfirs 13:06, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

January 24

Is the info below really from Walmart??

Walmart
    Save money. Live better.  
 

Sir/Madam,

Your order WM-0092767487 delivery has failed. Reason: Failed delivery attempts

To fix this issue you must fill this form and send it back to us.

If your reply is not received within one week, you will be paid your money back but 19% will be deducted.

Walmart Manager Armaan Cherry

2013 Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.22.83.37 (talk) 05:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Did you receive this as an email? Do you have an order with Walmart and, if so, is that your order number? At any rate, it is very easy to make such mail and send it out, thus, without more information, I'd caution trusting it (it doesn't read right, for several reasons, either). Personally, if you have an order with Walmart, I would contact them directly, perhaps by phone or in person, and see what they say; you can even ask them about this, they'd be able to give you a direct answer.Phoenixia1177 (talk) 06:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

No - it's a scam - just delete it. I've seen the exact same message - despite never having ordered anything from WalMart. The form will probably provide the sender with the information necessary to steal your identity - or something equally obnoxious. SteveBaker (talk) 06:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry, sir/madam. There just was no room in your driveway for the bridge you ordered. Our Nigerian prince of a deliveryman just couldn't fit it in. Clarityfiend (talk) 17:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The relevant article is phishing. 50.0.121.102 (talk) 08:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Watermelon cups

Ok, drinking from watermelon cups, what it have to do with racism? 50.100.190.61 (talk) 07:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The party was clearly intended have a racist theme, see: [4]. For the specifics of watermelon, see: Watermelon stereotype. If it was just people drinking out of watermelon cups, and nothing else, I doubt this would have been an issue.Phoenixia1177 (talk) 08:13, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for providing a link to explain what OP was on about, User:Phoenixia1177. I doubt I was the only confused one. Dismas|^(talk) 14:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I've heard a different version of the Watermelon stereotype, which stated that black farmhands were given the cheapest food available, just like some of the animals, often watermelon. Hence, why it is considered offensive. I have no idea if it's missing from the article or just untrue according to our article. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 09:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Watermelon had two things going for it -- it was cheap and available. The poor in every society end up eating what is cheap and available - in many cases that food is better than the "fancy stuff" - rice and beans ends up being pretty good as a diet, while the royal Elizabethans who dined on swan were getting pretty foul food (it tastes pretty bad). Collect (talk) 16:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, and I understand that lobster was once in the category of "low class foods". Amazing how things change. As for watermelon, it's OK, but berries are a much healthier fruit. And the other black stereotype food, fried chicken, is about the most unhealthy food possible (although removing the skin and tossing it out helps a lot). StuRat (talk) 16:49, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Cross-dressing question

where online can i see pics of lads wearing there sister's school uniforms or things like their sister's netball kit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.213.216 (talk) 12:40, 24 January 2014‎

I assume you mean Cross-dressing porn? I also assume you meant "adults" in place of "lads". Google it. The internet is made of porn and i doubt anyone here would suggest a specific site. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 12:36, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

no...i mean like lads in girls'school uniform,skirts and blouses and tights -like still at school. not porn stuff,just wearing girly things — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.213.216 (talk) 12:40, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't know, and, even if I did, I wouldn't provide links, because, the internet being as it is, "innocent" pictures of this type are likely to lead to illegal content of a less innocent nature. Dbfirs 13:09, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Header changed to a post to avoid me looking like the OP. No actual message content in question changed. Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 13:25, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Type whatever things you want to see into a Google search, but add the word "tumblr". --Navstar (talk) 02:44, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Entering Guinness World Records with the largest userboxes

Since Guinness World Records accepts anything, is it possible for a wikipedia to enter GWR as the member with the most userboxes?--Kuwaity26 (talk) 15:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, they don't accept anything. So you'd have to back up to there. And ask them. Dismas|^(talk) 15:53, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Was there any request they didn't accept? --Kuwaity26 (talk) 16:07, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

They no longer accept "consumption" records, IIRC. Collect (talk) 16:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank for your answers, I don't really know what does "consumption records" mean, but i'll search for it because it may help finding an answer to my question, thanks again --Kuwaity26 (talk) 16:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

"Consumption" as in eating lots of something. I can see why they no longer want to encourage idiots like "Donald Gorske of Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, USA consumed his 23,000th McDonald's Big Mac on 17 August 2008. He is now in his 37th consecutive year of eating Big Macs on a daily basis.". Alansplodge (talk) 01:46, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Take a look at Guinness World Records#Defining records, an answer at least using Wikipedia to assist you, I hope. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:53, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

They also don't accept anything sexual, if I remember correctly. And they tread lightly around anything that would be life threatening. Even a Guinness official has said that they "don't just accept any old thing". I've found a few mentions of them not accepting things that are subjective like beauty or nice handwriting. And their own FAQ mentions a few things they won't accept. I would suspect that they wouldn't accept "most user boxes" since it's not especially hard to do. Dismas|^(talk) 17:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

@Dismas: Thanks for the links , I asked this question because I saw a lot of silly things in the 2009 GWR book and I thought everything could be accepted, but as the FAQ says actions that are not challenging enough won't be recognised as records. @Alansplodge: @The Rambling Man: Thanks for your time and answers --Kuwaity26 (talk) 06:50, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

You want challenging? Try these! (In case you later decide to sue me, I only mean try reading about them.) InedibleHulk (talk) 07:48, January 25, 2014 (UTC)

Electricity unit costs in 1939. Watford England.

I would like to know the cost per Kw Hr of domestic electricity in 1939. The specific query is for Watford Hertfordshire England, where The Borough of Watford generated their own power at Cardiff Road and were not connected to the grid. Watford Urban District Council Act 1909 is relevant. I would also like to know the price of Town Gas in the same year. I believe the authority was the Watford & St Albans Gas Light and Coke Company. A gas works and gas holder were situated in the Lower High Street Watford England. The two costs for other distributors would help if the more specific request is not re-searchable. Alan Orchard86.130.161.39 (talk) 16:53, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

If this were me. I would start off by inquiring at the Watford Central Library. They have indexes to historical archives [5]. Be persistent, as these days of staffing cuts they are often very busy and might fob you off with a no, you have come to the wrong place. If so, speak to the Chief Librarian. Go in a a quiet day -not a Saturday. The price of such utilities as gas and electricity was as import then, as it is now, so some record must exist somewhere in the dark recesses of their dusty shelves. P.S. They should also have the Minutes of the Watford Urban District Council meetings, were the prices etc. would have been discussed.--Aspro (talk) 17:50, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

If you don't get any joy there, try the Hertfordshire Archives and Local Studies at County Hall in Hertford. The staff there are REALLY helpful. Alansplodge (talk) 01:55, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

(EC)*A search for online information was not successful. I found US electric rates for the early 20th century, but the books which might furnish price data for England are only viewable in unhelpful snippets from government reports such as [6], [7], [8] and [9]. A college library in the UK would probably have old electric industry journals describing the high price in the immediate post WW1 period and decreasing prices in the 1930's as demand sagged during the Depression and as efficiency of generation increased (more kwh produced per unit of fuel burned). For my town, the local library and local historical society would include historic reports from the authority which operated the gas plant and generating plant, so local paper records might be a good resource. Rural towns with isolated generating plants likely charged more than when the high voltage national grid was connected later and larger and more efficient base-load generating could supply the demand. Edison (talk) 18:10, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

And there is also the National Grid Archive--Aspro (talk) 19:40, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

When were coin-operated gas meters introduced to England?
Sleigh (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Not sure whether this should be under a separate heading. Anyway, the first patent appears to be 1887. - Karenjc (talk) 20:38, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Where is this church?

I have a little time today and thought I'd take some photos for Wikipedia while running my errands. One place I came up with is Monkton Borough Baptist Church. Clicking the coordinates in the article and then following the link to Google Maps gives me a pin on a road called Boro Hill Rd. I know the area fairly well and there is no church there. It's just woods and houses. If I go to the National Register of Historic Places web site, I'm unable to find an entry for this building. I've been through Monkton a few times and only remember a Methodist church there. So, could someone help me find this place? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 18:28, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

There's an entry for the place at the NRHP,[10] but the pdf file is empty, and I get a message that the information hasn't been digitized yet. Plus it gets a chapter in this book.[11] Clarityfiend (talk)

It definitely exists. This 2013-2018 Monkton town plan (on p. 34) gives a few details about it, but alas, not the specific location. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

This HISTORIC RESOURCES REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED VERMONT GAS ADDISON NATURAL GAS PROJECT (December 2012) has a map called "Figure 23" on page 29 (actually page 33 of the pdf file). Monkton Borough Baptist Church is marked #14 on the map. According to the text above, the church "sits back from the west side of the road" which is shown on the map as Vergennes Road which runs north from the junction with Boro Hill Road. On both Google Maps and OpenStreetMap, "Vergennes Road" seems to be marked "Monkton Road". Alansplodge (talk) 01:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I know where that is now. I talked about it with my wife today and she reminded me of that location. It's set back from the road and I hadn't thought of it. Possibly due to the cold that I've come down with today. (I'm covered in blankets right now trying to stay warm even though it's probably over 70 in the house.) Thanks for the reminders and confirmation. Maybe I'll have a chance to swing by there next week. Dismas|^(talk) 02:02, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

You may be encountering a datum issue: according to Wikipedia:NRHPMOS#Coordinates, many NRHP coordinates use the NAD27 datum, while Google Maps and GPSs use the WGS84 datum, which can differ by several hundred yards. --Carnildo (talk) 02:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Mystery satellite image

Any idea what this weird looking thing in google satellite view is? Looks a bit like athletes stretching, but probably too regular and oddly positioned. Is this a common image artifact that occurs elsewhere? Staecker (talk) 20:35, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

They look like athletes to me. I don't see why they couldn't be spaced like that. However, they should be careful going from first base to second. Looks like the Hellmouth is opening up on the basepath. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Could we get a better description of what you're referring to? The Google Earth marker is out in the woods. What Clarityfiend seems to be referring to is a rough circle of athletes on the baseball diamond to the left. But then refers to the artifact in the image of the diamond on the right. Dismas|^(talk) 21:56, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The main topic is the 17 white objects in 3 rows, north of the large diamond on the right. Some are sort of Y-shaped, and appear to be athletes exercising. As for the "hellmouth" on the diamond, there's another smaller one to the left near the clubhouse. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:58, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

The resolution isn't sharp enough to be sure but the image certainly looks like a baseball team stretching/warming up before a practice or game. D Monack (talk) 23:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

These guys are lined up in rows and have their hands up.[12] Clarityfiend (talk) 00:13, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Ah! Jack, thanks. Yes, they are baseball players stretching. Players will often lay on the ground with their legs in a Y and then stretch their torso by turning it back and forth. You can see someone assisting another person do this here. Dismas|^(talk) 00:51, 25 January 2014 (UTC)