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It does not make much sense not to know your religion. Undeclared is better.)
Maybe in your mind , it does not , because you are turkish , thus muslim , thus you see the world that way . But in albania IT DOES MAKE SENSE , because in comunism it had been an atheist country . Let me also tell to you , dont have high hopes , even the 50 % of muslims in albania is a highly exagarated number , because the 1,5 milion albanians living abroad have not been counted in this census , and the very vast majority of them are either atheist/agnost ( such as me ) or catholic/orthodox . Furthemore , many people declare themselves muslims without being muslims or practising any religion , but as a tradition or a family trait . Please , be interested in the muslims of your country , or the religion statistics . If we need help , from someone to teach us what makes sense and not , we will call you , but dont have high hopes . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.70.107.227 (talk) 11:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ethnologue says 6 mill.
Do you have the mental capacity of at least a 5 year old kid , to see the sourced population per country in the box below ?! 3 milion in albania , 1.8 milion in Kosova , 0.5 milion in macedonia , 0,5 in greece , 0,5 in Italy etc. etc . Please stop vandalizing albanian articles . Dear turkish friend , we would apreciate if you would stick to your matters , of turkish interest . Otherwise you will be reported for vandalizing . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.70.107.227 (talk) 11:31, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Really??
If you had a minimum knowledge and understanding of linguistics you would know that there are no opinion when it comes to isoglosses, either they are present or they are not (they are words)!! The way you'd like the article to be written is a distorted interpretation of Orel's quotation, as he does not 'reconstruct other languages' but deals only with Albanian-Greek words in that section! The same he does with Balto-Slavic and other groups, so I don't understand what are you trying to proveEtimo (talk) 20:41, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rizokarpaso]], [[Ayios_Andronikos,_Cyprus|Agios Andronikos]] and [[Agia_Trias,_Cyprus|Agia Triada]]) chose to stay in their villages.<ref>[http://famagusta-gazette.com/weekly-unficyp-trip-to-enclaved-
You said "I think you may have misunderstood Chipmunkdavis just a little." You are right. Someone took the draft to my namespace. Thanks for your caution.Alexyflemming (talk) 13:45, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
PLEASE READ BEFORE EDITING!
WHEN YOU UPDATE A COUNTRY'S POPULATION - PLEASE ALSO UPDATE THE EXPRESSION NEXT TO IT (column "% of world population") WITH THE SAME NUMBER EXCLUDING COMMAS (the #expr: equation).
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I have done the second update for your last Sweden entry. Regards! --T*U (talk) 16:55, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
My reply:
I am not sure what you mean. I thought that the column % would be automatic updatet as well as the ranking number. Like population clocks are updated according to pre-programmed formulas...
Hello. Please read the "language" section in the article before you unrevert. This is nothing about the "source reliablity" this is about he WP:FRINGE. Mainstream opinions of altaic theories about Turkic. not Mongolic or etc. Your insist is a totally pointless.Yagmurlukorfez (talk) 21:25, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thnx too
No need to apologize. Thanks for the intervention in the topic. Unfortunately it seems that a wide variety of similar articles have been the target of persistent wp:OWN, such as in Epirus.Alexikoua (talk) 11:13, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TU-nor. There's something like a discussion about changing the names of a number of village articles in Cyprus you might be interested in commenting on here. Just thought I'd let you know. Thanks. 31.153.72.171 (talk) 16:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I had not noticed that the editor in question linked "Cyprus" to the "Geography of Cyprus" article. That is wierd. In some instances I have used the formula "the island of Cyprus" for clarification, but the link should nevertheless go to "Cyprus", not to "Geography". I think that your wording is fine, but there may be people objecting, so to avoid unnecessary quibble, you could say "in the island of Cyprus" while linking to "Cyprus". --T*U (talk) 13:53, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not in my opinion, since the "Cyprus" article is about "the island country of Cyprus", that is island and country. There is no other article to link to, since the "Geography of Cyprus" mainly concerns itself with natural geography, not with human activity. --T*U (talk) 14:26, 6 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, TU-nor, it's me again. I've been editing the pages of some mahalleler in Northern Cyprus that appear to have been demarcated in recent years (i.e. after the division of the island), and I've hit a snag. It seems wrong to say that -- for example -- Ersin Paşa is part of Cyprus, since the RoC wouldn't recognise any such administrative division, so I've resorted to stating that the town to which they belong is de jure part of Cyprus. However, I think it might still be inappropriate to remove Cyprus and its district from the infobox. Do you have any ideas? P.S. Thanks for your support on ANI. P.P.S. I really kind of doubt mahalleler even deserve their own articles. Also pinging User:Dr.K. in case he's got any ideas. 83.168.23.138 (talk) 17:50, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As usual, you seem to have found a good solution by using the town name. I think there is no problem keeping Cyprus and the district in the infobox. The place is, after all, in that district even if the adm.div. is not acknowlegded. I see no harm in keeping a separate article for the small mahalleler. As far as I can see, there are even smaller places with separate articles in many other countries. --T*U (talk) 21:07, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
They may have been coordinating behind the scenes and they divided their labour accordingly. One sock to restore the master's article work, the other to get even by opening an SPI against their perceived "opponents". But they broke the cardinal rule of SPIs: Socking to open a reverse SPI on legitimate editors is frowned upon to say the least. What can I say? As far as what's next, if past behaviour is any indication, these are some committed and prolific sockpuppeteers. I can almost see them weaving the next sock in their sock factory. I just don't know if it's going to be wool or cotton, or when it will appear. :) Too bad, with Christmas approaching, socks are supposed to be used for presents, not for covert activities. But c'est la vie. All the best. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις22:28, 2 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Given this latest revelation, that the author of the spurious SPI is Hadgimarvi, I don't see how there can be any doubt that Hadgimarvi and Alexyflemming are one the same. And if this person is indeed User:Justice Forever (which it seems to me that they are), then we should not be surprised in the least. 213.7.22.7 (talk) 19:33, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am not quite convinced that they are one and the same. There is something in their styles that do not ring the same bells for me. But they for sure have the same agenda, and they obviously co-operate. And I am afraid there are more of them out there. Better be prepared for the next attack! Take care! --T*U (talk) 21:08, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I think Hadji and Alexy have different mo, so it is more probable that they coordinate off-wiki rather than being the same person. I also think Alexy is Justice Forever. The problem was that Justice Forever got stale due to inactivity and could not be traced by CU. The last SPI I opened in January 2014 for JFE was very ducky but Alexy got lucky. And yes, like TU-nor says, the new sock is being woven as we speak. Take care guys. Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις21:19, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's more likely that whoever's behind these socks has created two personas, if you will, in an attempt to mislead us. Hadgimarvi's report was way too similar to Alexy's rants on his talk page before he had his talk page access revoked. But yes, we better brace ourselves for some Christmas-time socking. 213.7.22.7 (talk) 01:51, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing is certain in the murky world of socking, but if Hadgi were Alexy the CU would have found the connection. I guess they attempted diversionary tactics on two fronts but that didn't work quite the way they had hoped. Thanks to your early warning and the help from the CU and the blocking admin the disruption ended soon enough. In any case, hopefully the only Christmas socks will be the ones hanging full of presents. Best of the Season to both of you. :) Δρ.Κ.λόγοςπράξις04:17, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect you are also using wiki accounts in names Dolescum and Future Perfect at Sunrise, and a couple more at least, so as to sabotage pages on Greece and Greek related subjects. Chip on the shoulder or just another mindless vandal who resents other peoples' constructive contributions? A Gounaris
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Hi TU-nor. You might be interested to weigh in here. IJBall sought clarification after a disagreement at Louroujina. If I recall correctly, you restored the flag icons after they were removed from some of these articles. 213.7.22.7 (talk) 12:29, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Administrator Anthony Bradbury has recently blocked User:Linben9 who was a vandal with an extensive edit history and, for the most part, operated undetected. After a few hours, I have revised all the articles in which User:Linben9 made discrete edits, sometimes as minor as simply changing a date by one year, just enough to create misinformation. Although numerous other editors corrected the edits that were made, the ironic aspect of the edit history is that many editors treated the vandal's submissions as AGF. I may have messed up one of the edits as the vandal made many edits, which were sometimes corrected, sometimes not. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:15, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your recent contribution at "Muzaka family" article.In fact I hadn't seen that the reference was written in 1510!!!Rolandi+ (talk) 13:24, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Illyrians
I saw that you deleted my edits at Illyrians saying that Fine doesn't support the Illyrian origin of Albanians.He clearly says that today scholars see the Illyrians as the ancestors of Albanians.However there were other references supporting my edits there.But you deleted them!It is clear that your problem isn't Fine!In fact the Illyrian origin of Albanians is supported by many scholars and everyone knows this fact.I am going to undo your shameful act and please talk to me before deleting my edits!Rolandi+ (talk) 15:10, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Moscopole
I saw you readded the name "Voskopolis" saying that the source is a greek one.This makes no sense as this is the English Wikipedia.As you can see at the article the alternative name of Moscopolis is Voskopoja,not Voskopolis.So please don't continue adding a greek name for Moscopole.Rolandi+ (talk) 17:46, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Rolandi+: The article has a long list of alterantive names in different languages in the opening sentence, among them two different Greek names. As the source says, the alternative name "Voskopolis" (as opposed to "Moschopolis") is derived from "voskos" and "polis", making the meaning "City of shepherds". Your edit resulted in a statement that "Voskopojë" means "City of shepherds". Even with my very limited knowledge of Albanian, I am quite sure that is not correct. --T*U (talk) 20:53, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
"Voskopojë" really means "City of shepherds"."Polis" is always changed to "pojë" in Albanian.For example "Nicopolis" is changed to "Nikopojë" in Albanian.Using the greek name for a place in Albania is unacceptable.Rolandi+ (talk) 08:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help in the decipherment of Resnjari's comments in Aoos. In light of Kadribistrica's latest sock activity [[2]]. It appears that Resnjari offerred some piece of advice on how to evade a new investigation [[3]], although I'm not sure which "dialect" he used in this comment. I'd be thankfull if you can offer some translation of this comment. I'm afraid that this is the case of a sock-supporting activity.Alexikoua (talk) 21:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexikoua: As this comment was deleted from my talk page by you with your wrong user comment, I did offer that user advice and clearly stated to him that he would have to appeal that decision with the admins according to policy. I also said to him that it is difficult to reverse that decision and cannot be of assistance to him. His IP is banned on English Wikipedia and stated that outright. I also said to him to get a new account (Note that Wikipedia policy does have WP:CLEANSTART. On Albanian Wikipedia he can use it as he wishes unless a admin bans him there if they see fit. You can lobby for it if you so wish on Albanian Wikipedia. I was contacted on Albanian Wikipedia and his account was fully functional there and is not banned there. What was done thereafter by that user is of no interest to me. Nonetheless, please do if you think there is something more to it take this before the admins. Just like with the whole canvassing matter, the admins determined it to be irrelevant. Nonetheless i am more than happy to indulge those who want to pursue that matter further.Resnjari (talk) 04:46, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Alexikoua: Answer on your tp. @Resnjari: You should read WP:cleanstart a bit closer: "Any user who has active bans, blocks or sanctions ... may not have a clean start. So it is really not good advice to suggest creating a new account. --T*U (talk) 08:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Kadribistrica is not banned on Albanian Wikipedia and i told him outright that i can not assist him with the matter very clearly or to lobby for him with the admins. It does say in clean start that a person may have a new account. Difference is they refrain from prior activities with articles they were involved in. Also if people feel that Kadribistrica should be banned on Albanian Wikipedia, they can lobby the admins there. In the end not my concern.Resnjari (talk) 03:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Resnjari: "A clean start is not permitted if there are active bans, blocks or sanctions in place against the old account." Could not be clearer. Please avoid giving similar advice again. --T*U (talk) 08:12, 13 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sockpuppeting accusation in someone's Talk Page against me
Hello. I want to inform you that an anonymous user, 45.33.130.46, made, today 11 November 2015, an accusation against me and the User:Athenean for sockpuppetting each other, in the talk page of that same person who appears to have accused you, T*U, here on your talk page, for being sockpuppet of Alexikoua (in your talk page section titled: "It seems that TU is Alexikoua"). You will find the anonymous user's message on Edvini's talk page, in a talk page section titled "Possible".
What is striking me is the coincidence of all these accidents: the accusation against me and Athenean was posted by an anonymous user on the talk page of a user who recently has accused you and Alexikoua for sockpuppeting. This is way too coincidental to be just a mere coincidence and unrelated, don't you think? This whole thing really stinks. I am gonna file the administrator with this small detail of that suspicious "coincidence", since your case seems not only very similar to my case, but related as well. You can check the developments here at the administrator's EdJohnston's Talk Page. --SilentResident (talk) 18:27, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Why don't you engage in talk section? Is it my job to fix somebody else faulty sources? Do not revert my changes without discussing them. I've given reasons in talk page, adress them there! Fez120 (talk) 10:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Warning due to unconstructive edits
You're repeatedly making unconstructive edits on the Lavdrim Muhaxheri talkpage
Hello, I'm KewinRozz. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions has been undone because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. KewinRozzKewinRozz (talk) 11:54, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi TU-nor, As I've commented on a good 10 of those AFDs I would ask that you don't ping me for the remaining ones, I don't mean this in a funny way but I don't need to be notified for them all, One is fine but 10 isn't (Someone pinged 20 times once and it wasn't the happiest of experiences! ), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk20:56, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll not ping you if I comment on more of the AfDs you have commented on. Actually I think I have been through the ones I think I need to comment on. By the way, I did only ping you on the AfDs where I had direct comments to you. Anyway, please acknowlegde that you have read this, or I will have to ping you... Regards! --T*U (talk) 21:03, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a problem if you do ping it's just if you're copy-pasting the same !vote on 10 AFDs then it's kinda pointless (Sorry I don't mean that in a dickish way) but anyway thanks and yep I've read them, I'll probably reply when I'm more awake , Thanks & Happy editing :) –Davey2010Talk23:25, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Pomakish as a slavic language and it is a fact that in Slavic languages, the endings -ski stands for -ish, isch and also, with -ian and -ien in Germanic ones as seen in the examples for Schlesich / Silesian language. Where have you checked this word whether it exist or not; here are some ghosty Pomakish words. Pomaks want Pomakish in the schools. Wikipedia must be updated, not to repeat what is told before. Thanks for your understanding. Manaviko (talk) 16:14, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)@Manaviko: Please demonstrate that 'Pomakish' is a recognised WP:COMMONNAME. I can see 'Pomakian', 'Pomak', and other convolutions as being equally as viable. You've produced one source for 'Pomakish': essentially written by someone who is not a native Anglophone. Do you have any reliable sources (English language linguists, etc.) using this nomenclature? Please read WP:NOR. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:42, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are entitled to complicate the desire of development of Wikipedia. What I wrote is not something I invented, it is some word already being used, just like its fellow Pomakisch in German and another Germanic language Swedish as Pomakiska. The rules are to simplify the life! For such small area languages there is such namings are also being for Laz language as LAZ-ISH, and also Lasich in German. I ãm not going to thank this time. I never thought that would be sth. against public interest! Manaviko (talk) 13:41, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Manaviko: That Bulgarian Turks speak Turkish and Bulgarian is rather self-evident. That they speak Romani needs a source. No-one has mentioned Greek, Albanian etc. Please be serious. --T*U (talk) 17:01, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is problematic to able to say "self-evident". Because it is a fact that a considerable amount of Roms of Bulgaria declare themselves as Turks on popular census thanks to democracy in the country just like in the case of some Torbešs Republic of Macedonia, see Plasnica, a Turkish slavophone town. Do you speak or understand Turkish or Bulgarian? If yes, have look at this Usta Millet, here (Millet], and of course here too. I am sorry to spend your time, but it's so important to create a scientifical encyclopedia and I think personally I am serious enough. Manaviko (talk) 20:41, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Manaviko:If you can provide a reliable source for Bulgarian Turks speaking Roma, fine! Then add it. If not, do not add it. As for serious, I was referring to your remark about Greek, Albanian etc. --T*U (talk) 20:45, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What's wrong here? What does "Stable version" mean? I think you can study more about the subject. On wikipedia you have enough time to study Manaviko (talk) 13:59, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Manaviko: "Stable version" means that I put it back to the version that has been in the article for a long time. Please read WP:BRD. When your suggested change was reverted, your next step should be to try to create a consensus in the talk page. Until there is such consensus for change, the stable version remains. --T*U (talk) 14:19, 5 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Help me!
The "help-me"-template was placed here on my TP by IP user @212.108.137.217:, obviously to ask me for help. I will try to explain these things to the IP, who seems to be identical to user @Shingling334:, in due time, but there will be some days before I have the time to do this. --T*U (talk) 21:41, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For an article to be un-orphaned, it needs to be mentioned and linked at other articles such as ones where that person may be mentioned and relevant. SwisterTwistertalk21:06, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done. For future reference you can request deletion of those redirects by adding {{db-redirnone}} to them, and an admin will review your request and delete it for you. (I think we might actually have a bot which takes care of these eventually.) Hut 8.520:01, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop removing Alyssa Soebandono from Category:Indonesian Muslims
Hello, TU-nor. I wanted to let you know your reasons for removal seem rather unconstructive and poor. Alyssa Soebandono on her Indonesian Wikipedia article mentions Islam is her religion. It say Agama- Islam. Plus it also obvious Indonesia is a Muslim majority country, and the hijab is commonly worn by Muslim women, with many wearing it always and many sometimes like she does (In Aceh, it is even mandatory regardless of religion) and we have many religions like Christians and Hindus, but the hijab is only worn by Muslim women. I know this because I was born and grew up in Indonesia and have witnessed this throughout friends and family and from people's conversations. Plus it is obvious and simple that the hijab is a Muslim women's clothing and anyone who wears is a Muslim. This fact is as simple as Obama is US president or Elvis Presley is dead. And although is religion is a personal matter many people on Wikipedia have their religion stated such as Brad Pitt o Amber Heard being atheist, Akon being Muslim, Allyson Felix being Christian, or Julia Roberts being Hindu. That is because these people have made their personal choices to state their religious views to the public at least once. And although the most of the people I have mentioned have showed those religious/non-religious views quite a lot if not a lot there many lesser known people who have their religion stated and have not been as public about it as these people and yet their religions have not been removed. Some examples include Bill Plaschke (Roman Catholic), Allyson Schwartz (Judaism), Sarah Polley (Atheist), Jill Stein (Reformed Jew), Gary Doer (Roman Catholic), Elhaida Dani (Islam), Helen Zille (Presbyterian). And none these people's Category: whatever their religion is, have been removed. If you think all my reasons still contradicts your reasons for removal I strongly recommend making a talk page where people who are administrators which neither I or you are can decide through a vote of opinions from administrators and non-administrators that say wherever in favor or against removal. You could also try contacting an administrator as neither you or I are administrators. To become an administrator you have to be granted the right by making smart and constructive edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Red Icarus of Jakarta (talk • contribs) 04:09, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your contributions to Macedon
Hello, dear. It has been many months since the last time we have crossed paths and helped me on that board. I am very grateful for your assistance back then, and I have not forgotten your help. My apologies, I do not intend to flood your talk page with useless messages, just passed by to express my gratitude for your constructive stance today in the sensitive article Macedon (ancient kingdom). I am very thankful for taking note of the repetition issues plaguing the lede and tackling them yourself. The lede now is much better. I hope you are all good and wish you a good day. Regards -- SILENTRESIDENT19:55, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I also want to thank you for your support at Macedonia (ancient kingdom). I'm not going to respond to SilentResident's comments because he's just blowing off steam. He doesn't seem to understand that the lead paragraph is subject to a different set of pressures than the body of an article and so his interpretation and application of WP:OR is completely wrong relevant to the first sentence. But he seems to be happy with the edits that you and I made to the lead. That's good enough and I'll ignore his pressure-releasing post. Take care. --Taivo (talk) 01:42, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Alyssa Soebandono Category:Indonesian Muslims
Your reasons for removing her from Category:Indonesian Muslims seems to me to be just your opinion. General opinion is what counts for a source not your personal opinion. As I am not a professional Wikipedian, nor are you, I would recommend taking our conflict over this to a professional Wikipedian or making a talk page. On a talk page users both Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians can debate their opinions on whether to give a support for keeping her on Category:Indonesian Muslims or in support of removing her Category:Indonesian Muslims (in support of you).Red Icarus of Jakarta (talk • contribs) —Preceding undated comment added 04:54, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My reason for removing the category was not just my opinion. I quoted the Wikipedia rules in WP:BLPCAT. It is part of the Wikipedia policy for biographies of living persons. There you can read: "Categories regarding religious beliefs (or lack of such) or sexual orientation should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question, and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to their public life or notability, according to reliable published sources." That is not "my opinion". It is Wikipedia rules.
And there is no such things as "professional Wikipedians".
Third opinion over Alyssa Soebandono Category:Indonesian Muslims
One third opinion is not enough to have the dispute solved. I would like more users to tell their opinions on whether to keep or remove. A full discussion over this dispute is what I requested for so I can see if most users will think that my reasons are good sources or your reasons are good sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Red Icarus of Jakarta (talk • contribs) 16:44, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Map
Hello; We discussed at length on the map. Map for 1683 is negative and insufficient alone. We will use a proper map. i think you got the wrong situation. There is a misunderstanding. This made the return very unnecessary.[4] . He did return pests without specifying reasons. I'd appreciate it if you correct this situation and misunderstanding. Have a nice day.--Gündoğdu (talk) 08:33, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Gündoğdu: When you changed the map and was reverted, you were asked to discuss on the talk page. Instead you inserted the map again, and was reverted by another user. Then you inserted the map another time. That is called edit war. Please read WP:Editwar and WP:BRD. I do not take part in edit wars, so I will not revert you again, but I am sure someone else will do so soon. The only way to gat your preferred map into the article, is to discuss it on the talk page and create a consensus, see WP:CONSENSUS. If you continue your edit war, you will soon get yourself blocked. My best advice is to self revert your last edit, then go to the talk page and explain why you want to change the map. And please keep the discussion at Talk:Ottoman Empire, not in my talk page or anyone else's talk page. Regards! --T*U (talk) 10:33, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We were discussing his talk page because the person who created the map; but we discuss an important issue on the talk page. Okay I'll explain in the discussion stage the right reasons.--Gündoğdu (talk) 11:03, 22 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You are fighting for the wrong thing. Review the changes made and you can check. Please do not revert because of a faulty understanding of the wrong.--Gündoğdu (talk) 20:21, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Gündoğdu: I do not quite understand why you mean I have a faulty understanding. Please explain, but not in my talk page. The place for discussions about articles are the talk page of that article. --T*U (talk) 20:42, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The place for discussions about articles are the talk page of that article I already said it is an important condition. I already said when the specify situation on the talk page. I mention because it is unnecessary. If you look at it you will see that. I made a few additions and editing and I said that what these changes. You revert all changes. You can check them all. Please do not revert. It seems unnecessary regulations war. You can specify in my talk page if I made a mistake. When personal conflicts discussed in a personal talk page.--Gündoğdu (talk) 21:20, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would ask you to change your correction. I may have misunderstood the return myself. I revert your change, it can lead to misunderstanding. I would really satisfied it if you correct. Thank you.--Gündoğdu (talk) 22:13, 27 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi TU-nor, I'm wondering if I can get your opinion on a dispute that I'm having on the Talk:Osman_I page, since it's never going to go anywhere without a 3rd party's opinion. Chamboz (talk) 17:58, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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People born in countries during the corresponding eras.
WP:BRD Prove Your point in talk, before You make any changes! Cambodia was occupied by Vietnam in 1979 just like the Baltic states were occupied. Articles about someone born in France 1940 don't use Deutsches Reich as birthplace.
Take a minute and read this: Occupation of the Baltic states. Especially this part: "The Baltic states, the United States and its courts of law, the European Parliament, the European Court of Human Rights and the United Nations Human Rights Council have all stated that these three countries were invaded, occupied and illegally incorporated into the Soviet Union under provisions of the 1939 Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, first by the Soviet Union, then by Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1944, and again by the Soviet Union from 1944 to 1991. This policy of non-recognition has given rise to the principle of legal continuity, which holds that de jure, or as a matter of law, the Baltic states had remained independent states under illegal occupation throughout the period from 1940 to 1991." There are miles of discussions about this [5], [6], [7]. etc.
WP:COMMONNAME applies to choosing article titles, there's no policy guiding the arrangement of the official and commonname in the lead, in this context. Do you have a specific valid reason why you find the previous arrangement unacceptable?--Jamie Tubers (talk) 01:02, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
According to the <ref name="gksru.xls">ОЦЕНКА ЧИСЛЕННОСТИ НАСЕЛЕНИЯ на 1 января 2016 года и в среднем за 2015 год [Population estimates as of January 1, 2016 and the average for 2015] (XLS). Федеральная служба государственной статистики (Federal State Statistics Service) (in Russian language). Retrieved October 20, 2016.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link), The population of Russia in 2017 rise to 146,839,000. KaplanAL (User talk:KaplanAL) 11 February 2017, 13:25 (UTC)
First let me commend you for wasting my vitality after reading the source. I was not able to determine any coherence with the statement that the Turkish cacıg was a loan word from any Armenian word that was on the source "Now"
you may say well it's affirmed with a likely. Well if you have a source that does not show clarification then sir its not ideal to concluded with a misleading intrusion. One other thing I would like to state is that. I been monitoring some Turkish articles and somehow it keeps getting changed from Turkish to Armenian. There is lots of animosity towards the Truks with their neighbors but, that does not give the right to anyone obscuring knowledge. --User:Janissarywiki (talk) 10:46, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Janissarywiki: My talk page is hardly the best place for such discussions. It would have been better to raise your concerns on the talk page of the article. All the same: There are two sources given for the claim that cacık is a loanword from the Armenian word cacıg, currently numbered 6 and 7. I do not read Turkish, but even then it is quite easy in source 6 to find
cacık<Er. cacıg
in the list of loan words into Turkish. I assume "Er." means "Ermenice"="Armenian"? Source 7 is not linked online, but is easy to find on the web. There I find a similar list of loan words, among these
cacık (from Armenian cacıg)
So the question really is whether we need to qualify the claim with the word "likely" at all in the sentence "is likely a loanword". --T*U (talk) 12:01, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@TU-nor: Well first of all that's not a question that's a suggestion. I see the sources but, it is not a published one regarding completion so, It is very hard to give it 99% credit in affirmation. I tried going to universities site to get the part 1 and 2 of the document 1 Eski Anadolu Turkcesi 2 Osmanlı Devri Turkcesi the one at source is 3 Gunumuzun Turkiye Turkcesi. The others are 404n That is why I told you it was not a good source. The Armenian word [cacıg] does not seem Armenian as it dose not fit into yogurt, drink or cucumber in their dialect. I searched the net and did not find any correlation with cacıg tying it to Armenian. The Armenians could have used old Turkic and adopted to their influence maybe made it up because, they got drunk on goat urine? but, again the article is incomplete and even if it was complete we don't know if it will brush up on other Ural-Altaic linguistic as Turkish is based on. Okay so, your probably thinking well idiot that's why I put "likely" and my argument with that is we do have confirmation from credible sources like google that it is Turkish in origin so, why are you adding something of a 3rd origin that we can't "likely" prove? (talk) 15:07, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Janissarywiki: If you do not believe or accept the Balikesir source, you might take a look at the next one:
Razuvajeva, Olga (2009). "Slang in the Turkish Language as a Social, Linguistic, and Semiotic Phenomenon". University of Gaziantep Journal of Social Sciences. 8 (1): 299–316.
@TU-nor: Yes but, I still don't see any Armenian sources regarding this because, I don't think this is Armenian. I called and talked to my friend who is a teacher in Azerbaijan but, she is a Turk and she told me that the word could have old Turkic routes and perhaps even Persian. I asked her if there is anyway to ascertain some sources she told me she will look. She did manage to tell me once the new Turkish language was getting written that they removed some words and tried to adapted to the Latin alphabet there was not any records at that time it is highly likely that cacıg was a word derived from Ottoman Turkic. Since there was not much records at the time or no one put energy into finding them they just put what they had and left most of it out to add later which they might have gathered from there neighbors most of whom adapted some words from old Turkic. I can give you an example of this with boza but, I want to keep this short so, here is one more thing to consider. The Kazakh word сусын which means Drink is very similar to the Turkish word çecek plus the i. look familiar thought so, that also means Drink but, the Kazaka word is closer to old Turkic and somewhat to Ottoman Turkic then Turkish so, I can guarantee you the so, called Armenian word is actually old Turkic the only problem is that no one Kept any records. I mean come on man we pioneered this stuff but, I still understand that we need to find a source. I will try to look and call my friend. SN I hope you had Cacik its like a drink you can sip it. (talk) 14:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Janissarywiki: Wikipedia is based on reliable sources, see WP:RS. What you or I or a teacher in Azerbaijan know or think we know, is not of interest to Wikipedia. It is absolutely possible that the word is of Turkic origin, but to write that in the article, we need a reliable source. If you find one, you can add it, but you cannot remove the info that already is there and has a reliable source.
By the way: You do not need to ping me when you write on my talk page. I get notification anyway.
Your Opinion is More Important than You Think Barnstar
This barnstar is given to you for your useful suggestions on Thessaloniki's collage! (link) I admit, the new collage looks much better than the previous one! Thank you! --SILENTRESIDENT01:13, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
How far do you think is Thessalonica from becoming GA?
Dear editor TU-nor, may I tell you something?
Remember in that Talk of Thessalonica where you have suggested that, even though there appeared to be a minimal consensus on making a comprehensive collage for the city, that more time should have be given before any progress is made towards consensus building before taking steps towards any direction (including making that collage)? What you said is absolutely correct and indeed more time should have been given.
As for the GA nomination of the article, may I ask, do you think there are any serious problems of a particular nature in the article Thessalonica in its current revisions? Pardon me if you are busy these days, just I was wondering for the general image of the article and how far it is from GA through experienced eyes such as yours. Hence why I am asking to get the first opinion of people such as you and PericlesOfAthens, who may spot things that can escape my attention, before the actual pre-nomination work and fixing. Of course will open the relevant discussion in the Talk, just was wondering if any issues caught your eye on that city article thus far. Thank you in advance for any responses, hope you have a good day. --SILENTRESIDENT18:53, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I respectfully disagree. Jalepeños are a condiment by the definition of a food, "that is added to some foods to impart a particular flavor, enhance its flavor,[1] or in some cultures, to complement the dish". Ace-o-aces2 (talk) 19:49, 27 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, and thank you for lending your time to help improve Wikipedia! If you are interested in continuing to edit, I suggest you make an account to gain a bunch of privileges. Happy editing!
Hi TU-nor I have seen your Wikipedia skills they are very good in my opinion, if you don't mind me asking what is your nationality ?
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I admit, the new collage looks much better than the previous one! Thank you! 
