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DNA section biased
The text in the DNA analyis is misleading
"Despite this, tests comparing the genetic profiles of northern Han, southern Han and southern natives determined that haplogroups O1b-M110, O2a1-M88 and O3d-M7, which are prevalent in southern natives, were only observed in some southern Hans (4% on average), but not in northern Hans. "
This would imply the paternal contribution of southern natives is only 4% when this is far from the truth. Y-DNA O1 (all subclades) is very common in (and perhaps more associated with) Dai populations. It is also very common in southern Chinese. Y-DNA O-P201 is very common in southern natives and is very common in Guangdong. There are many subclades of Y-DNA O1, O2 and O3 shared by both Dai and Han alike. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
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- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_haplogroups_by_populations_of_East_and_Southeast_Asia.
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Summary
The number of speakers derived from statistics or estimates (2019) and were rounded:[1][2][3]
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Koreans of Han Chinese descent extent
@Nkon21: Just a query to try and achieve WP:CONS. If the article shows that the average Korean studied has very little genealogical difference or "is almost distinct" from the average 'southern' Han Chinese, then wouldn't it be more appropriate to suggest that larger numbers of Koreans are of 'southern' Han Chinese descent? Just saying "large numbers" probably isn't specific enough, as some people may view the existing 200-odd thousand Koreans officially acknowledged as Han Chinese descent as "large numbers", when research shows that it is probably "larger numbers". Important difference ThanksKip1234 (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- I'm fine with that. However, statements that possess a passive tone such as "but most Koreans are probably" are best to be avoided. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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In the romanisation section, the Wade-Gales version should be 'Han4-tsu2', rather that 'Han-tzu' - in order to be in line with the rules of Wade-Gales. Charlesjerom (talk) 16:14, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Content dispute
@七战功成: Apparently you didn't know but the Taiwanese count anyone with even a small percentage of Han ancestry as Han, I admit its a peculiar quirk but I thought it was one everyone was aware of (similar to how in the United States just a small amount of African heritage makes one Black). 85% of the population is on mixed Han and indigenous descent, that leaves small proportions that are just Han, just indigenous, or some other ethnic group.[1] You are also edit warring to restore the edit of a indefinitely banned user, were you aware of that? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 17:31, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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To add To editor Failed verification: after the refs for Hong Kong. The referenced materials only referred to Chinese, without specifically referring to any ethnic groups. 219.76.24.207 (talk) 10:03, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
- ^ Cheung, Han. "Book Review: Charting Taiwan's future through its past". www.taipeitimes.com. Taipei Times. Retrieved 15 July 2020.
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