User talk:Jaakobou

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A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

Ooh!

The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.

The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on.

Soxred93 edit summary

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• notes

Stuff I'm reading:

Dov Moran - Inventor of the DiskOnKey Proles Wilayah, Sanjak Medina Caliphate Iudaea Province - Judean Mountains Damour massacre Muhammad Ali Pasha Greater Syria Hamlet Merneptah Stele Reporters Without Borders Hama massacre Tadmor Prison May Laws War of the camps Make-work job Dead Sea canal Take Me Up to the Ball Game Safiyya bint Huyayy

10 Agorot controversy List of cognitive biases 1066 Granada massacre Shiraz blood libel Al-Mahdi Ahmad - 1679 Mawza exile Hashomer Black September in Jordan List of ethnic slurs Hurva Synagogue Arab Revolt Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca Ali bin Hussein House of Saud Syrian Jews Revolt in the Vendée Cairo Geniza United Monarchy Unitarian Universalism Karantina massacre Pan-Arabism Dewey Defeats Truman

Arabistan IFLB Logorrhoea Category:Anti-Jewish pogroms by Muslims Chala (Jews) Damascus Protocol Bilad al-Sham Constitution of Medina Indian mathematics Carmen Sandiego Ahmad Shukeiri Iraq Dujail Massacre Halabja poison gas attack 1991 massacre List of fallacies Slow Cheetah List of countries by population Gable Faisal-Weizmann Agreement Hanlon's razor

		The Israeli Barnstar of National Merit
		Jaakobou, You have worked hard to attempt to improve wikipedia's Israel/Palestine related articles. You have made appropriate additions and changes, added sourced content, and dealt with the POV issues related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I believe you have at many times tried to promote improvement and NPOV in many wikipedia articles, and have greatly improved many articles. You have had to deal with some issues in the past, have faced at times controversial sanctioning, but when you were wrong, you have learned from your mistakes, and improved your editing, and since, you have become a very good editor. For all you have done, you have won my respect, and are in my opinion very deserving of this barnstar. YahelGuhan (talk) 05:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:ANEW

Please stop removing nableezy's comment from WP:ANEW. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:47, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

He's stepped on my edit, breaking my bullet structure, and I was in the process of reinserting them. The guy can't even wait 10 seconds to allow someone to finish adding a diff to his edit. I can't stress this enough, but a pressure cooker would handle the situation better.

Anyways, thanks for the note. I'm hoping you can extend my sentiments of the matter to Nableezy. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 03:56, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

VPC

— raekyT 10:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Nableezy's talkpage

When I remove something from my talk page do not reinsert it. I think you already know that should not be done, so dont do it anymore. If you want to waste your time leaving a note you know will be removed you can, but dont reinsert it once removed. nableezy - 13:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I can't be held accountable for an update overriding your comment removal.

p.s. it is poor form to mention someone by name and then remove their comment.[10]

Warm regards, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 15:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

PS, I dont care what you think is "poor form". One of two things happened. You either saw I removed the comment and reinserted making a small addition, or you immediately attempted to make the addition, in which case you would have gotten an edit conflict and then would have seen the comment had been removed. And then you saved it anyway. Either way, dont revert me on my own talk page. That is "poor form". nableezy - 16:14, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I haven't reverted you. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 16:56, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Heyo

I've sent you an email. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 02:08, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not going to comment on the Gideon Levy article; I do not want to be involved in the dispute. -- tariqabjotu 02:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Mitzpe Ha'ai

Mitzpe Ha'ai is the outpost pictured in the satellite photos here, as identified by Peace Now, and also named Givat Ha'ai. Are you really claiming that PN would be compelled by its "fringe" agenda to make this outpost up?--Carwil (talk) 21:50, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Whether or not the outpost exists and is called by that name, it is not in the report Peace Now claimed as their source of information. We cannot use sources that repeatedly falsify information even if some of their input is correct.

p.s. Please don't address Peace Now publications as factual, they've been disproven countless times.

With respect, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 07:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Stay off my talk page

You are not allowed to revert me on my own talk page to reinsert comments I have removed. You have done this multiple times now, so now let me make the following point to you crystal clear. I dont care what you think is "disruptive", "gaming", "uncivil" or really anything else. Accusing me of saying you are "lying" with a diff in which I do not say you are lying is just icing on the cake in that it demonstrates just how dishonest and intentionally disruptive you are. Stay off my talk page, there is nothing that I wish to discuss with you at all. I only do so on article talk pages because I have to. Thankfully, my own talk page is not a place where I have to suffer <redacted> quietly. Bye. nableezy - 15:56, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

AE refactor of Nableezy's filing

You're walking on very thin ice over there, and likely to see administrative action against yourself for refactoring Nableezy's filing. I highly suggest self-reverting. ← George ^talk 22:54, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Do NOT edit my comments or change my complaint. If you wish to open a complaint against me or against me and Shuki feel free to do so. nableezy - 22:56, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Interaction ban

Under the authority of WP:ARBPIA#Discretionary sanctions, and based on the discussion in this AE thread, you are hereby admonished for personal attacks and ad hominem comments and are prohibited from commenting on or interacting with Nableezy (talk · contribs) anywhere on Wikipedia. Please see WP:IBAN for the complete scope of the interaction ban. If you believe that Nableezy has violated their ban from interacting with you, you may not react to that alleged violation except by the procedure specified in the AE thread linked above. T. Canens (talk) 22:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

AfDs

Hi. As you just participated in discussions on a closely related topic (also a current AfD re a Jewish list), which may raise some of the same issues, I'm simply mentioning that the following are currently ongoing: AfDs re lists of Jewish Nobel laureates, entertainers, inventors, actors, cartoonists, and heavy metal musicians. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 08:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Accusations of Jewish control of the media

Hi, Just to let you know that I support most of what you're arguing over there. I'm currently in a state of semi-retirement from WP and so am only making passing comments. I had tried to get JayJG involved but haven't followed up the reply he gave me. Basically, I think the anti-Semitic origins of much discussion of the relationship between Jews and the media needs to be highlighted and I regard the conspiratorial elements as crucial to this.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:26, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you!

Hi Jaakobou, Thank you for your post on AE. Best wishes.--Mbz1 (talk) 04:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Your AE request

Hi, this is to let you know that another administrator has asked you to explain why you should not be sanctioned for filing a frivolous request. If you choose not to offer the requested explanation, you may be made subject to sanctions.  Sandstein  20:50, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement warning: Arab-Israeli conflict

Hello. For the reasons explained by another administrator and I at WP:AE#Tiamut (permalink), you are warned not to make clearly meritless requests for enforcement, especially requests that make obvious misrepresentations of fact. Thanks,  Sandstein  06:07, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

AE

WP:AE#Jaakobou. nableezy - 13:31, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Closed without action, but please be more careful. Good luck and happy editing. - 2/0 (cont.) 16:59, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Motion regarding Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/West Bank - Judea and Samaria

By motion of the Arbitration Committee voted on at requests for amendment,

The editing restrictions placed on Nishidani (talk · contribs) in the West Bank - Judea and Samaria case are lifted effective at the passage of this motion. Nishidani is reminded that articles in the area of conflict, which is identical to the area of conflict as defined by the Palestine-Israel articles case, remain the subject of discretionary sanctions; should he edit within this topic area, those discretionary sanctions continue to apply.

For the Arbitration Committee, Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 17:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

AE

WP:AE#Jaakobou. nableezy - 06:41, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

There is an item omited that I would like inserted

This is the source of the omission http://raleighstshul.blogspot.com/ Scroll down to Grey Shirts Trial

"The trial, which opened in July 1934, was heard in the Eastern Cape Divi­sion of the Supreme Court in Grahamstown before the Judge President, Sir Thomas Graham. The local and over­seas press gave great prominence to the court proceedings. F.G. Reynolds K.C. (later a judge) assisted by Will Stuart (later a so-called ‘Native Repre­sentative’ in Parliament) appeared for the Rev. A. Levy of the Port Elizabeth Western Road Synagogue."

The suggestion is that you create a new sub heading between Switzerland and The Berne Trial, 1934–1935

Entitled "South Africa"

and give a brief summary of the Grey Shirts Trial

and give the source reference in the Reference Section at the end of the article

````famabra```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Famabra (talk • contribs) 18:28, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

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AE case

[11] Gatoclass (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Present Status paragraph

This paragraph in the I-P conflict has been significantly altered by NightW. Yours thoughts please
Best Wishes AnkhMorpork (talk) 17:37, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Jakabou, as I pointed out on the talk page your bold edit changed a passage that was factually correct and well sourced (though admittedly overlong and repetitive), to one that contained a glaring factual inaccuracy, and does not fully represent the cited sources. I cannot understand how you feel justified removing the neutrality tag with this still unresolved. Yes concision is an issue, but a clear factual inaccuracy unsupported by sources is far worse surely. Dlv999 (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

The reason I put up the tag was due to an overblown writeup on a single issue. Once that single issue was summarized into a single paragraph, I felt there was no more need for the POV tag as issues were presented in a fairly neutral manner. As far as the accuracy of the revision -- I'm not too attached to the words, but only to the spirit in which they were written (i.e. making the text legible). I have no objection if a consensus can arise regarding a rephrase. Regardless, I don't think the state of the text is quite as bad as you think -- but I might be wrong. From my understanding -- there was condemnation at the UN. The intricacies of that are not that important when we try to convey an idea (who criticized). What matters is that we allow readers to know that there was some type of condemnation. If I mis-explained the type of condemnation in question -- I have no objection to rephrase efforts that will be more accurate. I invite your collaboration and the collaboration of others to get the text to a better state. My idea was only about neutrally presenting the ideas in the section. I'm not even sure I'm interested in going deeper than that into the text -- the floor is yours to persuade others in why your concern is important. I'm not opposing your concern -- I didn't even dive into the material deep enough to understand it. I hope this helps you move forward with your concerns.

With respect, Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 14:30, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Incitement to vioence

Can you construct this paragraph; seeing as your version of the settlement criticism was generally accepted
Best Wishes AnkhMorpork (talk) 16:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm a tad busy and am trying to stay away from heavy editing, but I'll try to give it a look in the upcoming day-two. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 19:34, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Ahem, gentle reminder... Also is the zoological conspiracy theories contained in I-P ArbCom ruling, and if so, can you cite this in the talk page as I may have have inadvertently infringed the rules. Todah
Best Wishes AnkhMorpork (talk) 22:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

AE result

The recent AE request against you has been closed without formal action. However, I am advising you that, should the edits for which you were reported to AE form part of a pattern that develops in the future, sanctions may be considered. If no such pattern emerges, you should hear nothing more about that AE request. Sincerely, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 04:10, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

A/E

Could you please remove your double posts from my sections? Thanks. -asad (talk) 18:52, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Topic and interaction ban

For the reasons stated in this AE thread, and under the authority of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions, as incorporated by WP:ARBPIA#Standard discretionary sanctions, you are banned indefinitely from all articles, discussions, and other content related to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly construed across all namespaces. Further, you are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with, or commenting on, Tiamut (talk · contribs), broadly construed, anywhere on Wikipedia, except in cases of legitimate and necessary dispute resolution, and are further indefinitely prohibited from seeking any admin action related to Tiamut (talk · contribs), broadly construed, either publicly or privately through any means, except through the arbitration enforcement process or by email to the Arbitration Committee.

These sanctions may be appealed at WP:AE after twelve months, and every twelve months thereafter. They may also be appealed to AE once within twelve months of their imposition, and may be appealed to the Arbitration Committee at any time. T. Canens (talk) 04:16, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I apologize for creating such a fuss about statements I find extremely offensive. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 08:50, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Jaakobou, this was a bad block, to say the least WP:POLEMIC is clear in what action to take, sadly, the admins decided to turn a blind eye to it. It wouldn't be the first time at least on admin's turned a blind eye to that particular policy.

@-Kosh► Talk to the Vorlons►Moon Base Alpha-@ 17:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Whoa! WTF? You deserve more respect than that. So they finally got you and it was a quickie over the holiday too. Take a break, it's good for your health. IMO, you've done well. --Shuki (talk) 20:48, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

You presented your case in a dignified coherent manner despite the shenanigans of what was patently a kangaroo court. It was a pleasure collaborating with you on various topics and I hope you are still somehow able to provide your input. Than you for keeping the Hamans at bay.
Best Wishes AnkhMorpork (talk) 22:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

March 2012

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Another outrageous decision by Wikipedia's biased administrators. Years of laboring on Wikipedia and trying to collaborate with extremists just thrown away like it was nothing. Rather than trying to understand the concerns of pro-Israel editors that something may be a polemic and insulting, they merely give pro-Israel editors and their concerns the big FU(K YOU. Why not just let the Jihadists and the Palestine supporters and the garden variety antisemite just take over the area entirely? Oh wait, I forgot. They already did. One decent editor after another is forced out. Jaakabou, I suggest you get a life outside of this antisemitic, Jihadist environment. You will find your personal health improves. Oh and for the record, there are some people who appreciate the work you've done, though most are probably no longer editing themselves. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.92.9.78 (talk) 15:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey

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Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jaakobou/Polemics and Decorum

Please see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Jaakobou/Polemics and Decorum. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:24, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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Clarification motion

A case (Palestine-Israel articles) in which you were involved has been modified by motion which changed the wording of the discretionary sanctions section to clarify that the scope applies to pages, not just articles. For the arbitration committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 15:26, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

= Stealth Canvassing at Wikipedia_talk:User_pages#Rephrase_suggestion_to_WP:UP.23POLEMIC

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 22:23, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

French people are not neutral about policy? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 22:38, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Targeting people with French sympathies and emotions because there was a recent terrorist attack there is not neutral. There's also the stealth canvassing, you contacting members thru email.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 22:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

@Serialjoepsycho:

My reponse here. Let's discuss this though. a) Why do you think French people are not neutral about the phrasing of the policy? b) What do you think about participation of people supporting militancy commenting and voting without disclosing their political affiliation with illegal activities? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 23:18, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

A) It's not a matter of whether French people or neutral or not. That is a straw man tangent that is not worthy of a response. This is about Canvassed people, and and all canvassed people regardless of race, religion, nationality, or what ever else. Canvassing compromises the consensus making process. B) This is another straw man tangent not worthy of a response.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 23:37, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

@Serialjoepsycho:

I think you may have fumbled when you wrote down "straw man tangent that is worthy of a response". Please let me know before we continue discussion. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 23:39, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I did. Thank you.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 23:47, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

@Serialjoepsycho:

Focusing on your main argument, I wholly agree and respect your note about 'Canvassing compromises the consensus making process.' I've made some overall notes which I'm not sure if we can come to agreement on (i.e. French are neutral, editors supporting militancy are not) but I cannot discuss the merit or lack-thereof of these points further until that other matter is resolved. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 00:57, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

You have made no points to which we can agree on. French neutrality is meaningless. Palestinians can be neutral as well. When you taint the jury pool the jury can not be considered neutral, even if they are French. Editors that support Militancy can be neutral as well. I'm guessing that you don't realize that George Washington was a militant. I recognize the Right of revolution.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 01:13, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

yes, you do. But that is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about this type of polemics being allowed on user-pages. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 07:52, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Poetic militancy

Your soapboxing, That's great and all but you can save yourself time by not soap boxing me. I disagree with your view. I see no reason to reach any compromise at all. The rules as they stand already cover what you want. Now there's the need for a long conversation and in some cases you might not be able to convince others of your view but that's a good thing. The conversations should actually be much longer especially when you are taking actions to to silence speech.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 03:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

I shouldn't need to convince that advocacy against Jews, Israelis, Zionists is a violation. That discussions are always tainted by people not understanding the policy as well as the ones who openly want to post such content is absurd. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 07:52, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

AE 2

WP:AE#Jaakobou nableezy - 23:34, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

The complaint at AE has now been closed, with a finding that your edits at WT:UP were a violation of your ban from WP:ARBPIA. For now, no other action has been taken. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 15:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

It's highly accurate

You violated the canvassing policy. It's a simple matter. It's not hard to actually understand. You have no argument against or excuse for it. It's great that two people who responded to your canvassing decided to be upfront about your inappropriate canvass. It's also not relevant or meaningful in anyway. None what so ever. Not even kind of, sort of, or in a round about way. We can not clearly determine who you have improperly canvassed. The closer will be unable to exclude their opinions if they are unable to determine who is meatpuppeting on your behalf. This RFC will not end in a policy change. And it looks like your part in the discussion is over anyway.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 10:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

The fact that you still don't understand that your message in your highly inappropriate canvassing is not neutral by any standard is also concerning. But again the conversation is over. Hopefully an Admin will have the time to explain this to you when you either block you or give you are warning about your TBAN and IBAN.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 10:07, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

You are not accurate when you assume things without asking or when you repeat things again and again, and now, again.

I indiscriminately and without prejudice contacted 10 editors from the contributors of the Paris attacks article with a benign message that makes no attempt to influence their judgement regarding policy discussions. This was a bad idea and I've apologized for it multiple times. The rest of it, contacting Wikiproject France is sanctioned under Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate_notification. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 10:16, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I can not verify that you contacted 10 editors thru email. It could be 10 or it could be 200. This is stealth canvassing Wikipedia:Canvassing#Stealth_canvassing. You have no significant reason for not using a talk page notification. None. Zero. Zip. Evidence provided by one of these stealth canvassed users suggests that your message was an inappropriate attempt at campaigning similar to the one you inappropriately posted at wikiproject France. Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate_notification does not sanction your actions. Wikiproject France is not directly related to Wikipedia policy. It does not become directly related because you want to play on the emotions of people because there was a terrorist attack in France. This is what the language you choose suggests and there is no reason what so ever to think you were trying to do anything but that. And great you apologized. I'm not sure what you think relevance is of the apology but what ever and apology accepted. You still compromised the consensus making process and this still makes the consensus indeterminable. The RFC still can not result in a consensus to change the policy. But your apology is accepted. Don't poison the well and expect people to drink the water. This is what you are not understanding. But this conversation is pointless. Your part in that conversation is over. That conversation is over without a consensus to change policy. -Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 10:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Again, you assume things without asking or assuming good faith. I disclosed my activity and agreed to my mistake. As for closing the other thing in a fair manner. Ask arbcom if my message on Wikiproject France is "campaigning" or Wikipedia:Canvassing#Appropriate_notification. Try to do it without declaring beforehand as to not sway the conversation. Let me know. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 11:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

As the long time saying goes on Wikipedia goes, "AGF is not a suicide pact." I don't have to ask anything and I did not assume anything at all. I read exactly what you wrote [12]. Would you like to insult my intelligence and lie and say these recent events you are discussing is not the terrorist attack in Paris? That the sympathies you share are not for the people that were effected by this terrorist attack? Yes campaigning but without the scare quotes. You can read all about it at the policy that you violated WP:Canvass. And no worries the RFC will end fairly. No matter what it will result in no change to policy. This conversation is has met it's end.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 12:06, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

There's nothing fair about having the joy of encountering pro-terrorism bullshit on user-pages. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 12:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

A couple more from today: [13]. Was Tel Aviv occupied territory? Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 12:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

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Let's go over to AE Then

Save your warnings. Let's go over to WP:ARE. You can tell them about how I'm just uncivil by stating facts and then you can explain why you are violating your topic ban. If you decide to do so message me accordingly, otherwise stay off my talk page.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 12:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

@Serialjoepsycho: As per my deleted notice,[14][15] if you want to reiterate and regurgitate allegations of an alleged transgression, that is inappropriate. If that editor violated a policy take your advice and go to AE about it. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 17:19, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Take it to AE. Don't ping me either.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 22:06, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

If that editor violated a policy take it to AE. Anything else you do might be further looked into. End of conversation. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 23:02, 5 December 2015 (UTC)