User talk:Puffin

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Livitup (talk | contribs) at 17:33, 18 November 2013 (Talkback (User talk:Livitup) (TW)). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Invitation to WikiProject Breakfast

Hello, Puffin.

You are invited to join WikiProject Breakfast, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of breakfast-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 17:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Abrahams Commission

Dear Puffin,

I notice that you have prefaced an article I recently contributed on the Abrahams Commission with a number of remarks including:

Some sections excessively long and could be separated by using level 3 headings,

This article is written like a personal reflection or opinion essay rather than an encyclopedic description of the subject. (April 2013)

This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations. (April 2013)

This article may contain original research. (April 2013).

My responses are:

1. There are four coherent and self-contained sections that would be difficult to split. Unless you have any specific proposals for division, please withdraw this remark.

2. I strongly disagree. If you can point to any opinion or personal reflection on my part, please specify, if you cannot, please withdraw this remark.

3. There are 43 inline citations, all clearly related to a sentence, group of sentences or section, so this is plain wrong.

4. There is no original research. If you disagree, please point it out

I also noticed that your log of contributions for 5th April showed upwards of 50 entries including this in the hour following 0920 on 5th April, so I have a legitimate concern about how much time you spent on reaching these conclusions. Overall, I think what you have done goes beyond legitimate editing and should be corrected.

Shscoulsdon (talk) 09:11, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:BODY: Sections and subsections are introduced by headings. These headings clarify articles by breaking up text, organizing content, and populating the table of contents. Very short or very long sections and subsections in an article look cluttered and inhibit the flow of the prose.
Personal opinions without a direct citation or quote, for example "even though it had been badly managed and deforested" and "Many Africans living on Native Trust Land felt strong resentment at the large areas of under-used estate land."
See WP:OR: "Any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by a reliable source."
The verifiability policy requires that all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged be attributed to a reliable, published source in the form of an inline citation. The first paragraph of the section "Abrahams Commission" has no inline citations.
If you believe that the article is appropriate for the summary style, then the lead section may need to be extended to cover the main points of the article.
Inline citations belong directly after the punctuation. Please use appropriate citation templates such as {{cite journal}}.
Its not like anyone else makes a lot of semi automated edits within a short period of time. Puffin Let's talk! 09:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Improvements needed - Maybe not

Dear Puffin,

Thank you for the quick response. My response is:

Subsections: This obviously depends on whether the sections can be broken down naturally. I don't think they can, but if you can see obvious breaks feel free, but otherwise leave well alone.

Personal opinions: You are wrong in both cases. Firstly "even though it had been badly managed and deforested" is what reference [36] says, which in turn comes from the report of the government surveyor who White quotes. As this reference [36] is at the end of the sentence that contains this phrase, I don't see how you can say it is uncited. Secondly, "Many Africans living on Native Trust Land felt strong resentment at the large areas of under-used estate land." This is not my opinion, but comes from Baker, reference [25], and it's not really Baker's opinion so much as a reasoned conclusion. I accept citation [25] covers two paragraphs (it is a summary of 3 pages of Baker), but it would add nothing to split this between 3 or 4 separate references.

The first paragraph of the section "Abrahams Commission" has no inline citations: See above, citation [25] covers two paragraphs. As a general point, I have never heard it as a general rule that every sentence or paragraph must have a citation. Perhaps more to the point, if this is the only instance, it doesn't justify a general criticism.

In summary, I would agree to split the references in the first paragraph of the section "Abrahams Commission" if you will agree to drop the comment "This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations." unless you can justify that comment by further specific examples.


Shscoulsdon (talk) 14:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Images question

Hi Puffin, I'm trying to figure out if you can point me to what we do with images from Flickr where we have these two licenses: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/2.0/deed.en and http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.0/deed.en In these situations, it's clear the uploaders are OK with free use, but put limits on commercial use (and I never did get what a "derivative work" is, anyway... just don't crop it or something?) and I see these tags a lot, probably because the uploaders don't know about WP and commons rules. So anyway, short of going through the whole OTRS hassle and such, wasn't there a time when such images were OK on WP even if they weren't on Commons? I don't want to upload things that are not going to pass muster, just trying to get an idea of where that gray line is; the stuff I'm particularly looking at isn't going to meet a fair use tag because someone, eventually, could take photos of similar subject matter, it's more that these particular images are nicely done... OK, I'm rambling, just wondering if you have any thoughts. Montanabw(talk) 21:22, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Both are not ok on Wikipedia, according to this page:
Statement on image page. License OK here?
© All rights reserved Copyrighted NOT OK
Some rights reserved CC-BY-NC-ND NOT OK
Some rights reserved CC-BY-NC-SA NOT OK
Some rights reserved CC-BY-NC NOT OK
Some rights reserved CC-BY-ND NOT OK
Some rights reserved CC-BY OK
Some rights reserved CC-BY-SA OK
No known copyright restrictions. Public Domain OK

BY means the image license requires attribution, as in an image is "BY" a certain person.
SA is for "Share Alike".
NC is for non-commercial use only and is NOT OK.
ND is no derivative works and is NOT OK.

If the image is not OK, consider asking the author to release their work under a free license such as CC-BY (Creative Commons Attribution license), or CC-BY-SA (Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike). See also Commons:OTRS. Puffin Let's talk! 10:10, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The ND one makes no sense to me. Any notion as to WHY it is "not OK?" I can see the NC one because people use stuff from wikipedia in commercial ventures, but ND, as I understand it, basically just means to use the whole image and not change it, am I correct on that? Montanabw(talk) 15:59, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See[1] Puffin Let's talk! 21:49, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive Editing?

I notice you haven't responded to my last post, so to summarise:

1. The Article on the Abrahams Commission was accepted on 1 April. 2. On 5 April, you spent a very short time (according to your Contributions log) looking at it, and added multiple tags. 3. When I raised reasoned objections, you removed some of these but tried to defend others. 4. I pointed out yesterday that your defences did not hold water.

It has been suggested that your editing was "Tag-bombing", a form of Disruptive Editing, and I have to say a glance at your Contributions log shows a worryingly high level of negative actions. I have now asked you twice to remove the tag "This article includes a list of references, but its sources remain unclear because it has insufficient inline citations". Could you either so so in the next 24 hours or respond? If you fail to so either , I will assume your agreement.

Shscoulsdon (talk) 07:03, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)I agree with the tagging. The sources at the bottom do not actually state what they are about, and some of the sources need expanding, to give full book information etc. Therefore, please don't remove the tags without action. Mdann52 (talk) 10:04, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your AfD nominations of Animorphs characters

I just finished closing them, but in the future, it is recommended that you group similar articles into the same nomination. Thanks, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 11:43, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:FOOD Needs You!

Hi there Puffin! I've noticed you have yourself listed as a member of the Food and Drink Wikiproject. Unfortunately it looks like the project has been slowly sliding into inactivity except for a couple of people. That makes me a sad potato, and nobody likes a sad potato amirite?

If you'd like to turn my frown upside down, can you do two small things?

First off, go here and add {{Tick}} (checkY) next to your name if you're still part of the project.

Second, go to the project talkpage and participate in a discussion about how to make the project more active, and how to go about making articles in our area of interest a lot better.

You don't want to make me cry, do you? Potatoes have a lot of eyes you know. So come on, join in! :)

— The Potato Hose 18:29, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre

Hello! Now, some of you might have already received a similar message a little while ago regarding the Recruitment Centre, so if you have, there is no need to read the rest of this. This message is directed to users who have reviewed over 15 Good article nominations and are not part of WikiProject Good articles (the first message I sent out went to only WikiProject members).

So for those who haven't heard about the Recruitment Centre yet, you may be wondering why there is a Good article icon with a bunch of stars around it (to the right). The answer? WikiProject Good articles will be launching a Recruitment Centre very soon! The centre will allow all users to be taught how to review Good article nominations by experts just like you! However, in order for the Recruitment Centre to open in the first place, we need some volunteers:

  • Recruiters: The main task of a recruiter is to teach users that have never reviewed a Good article nomination how to review one. To become a recruiter, all you have to do is meet this criteria. If we don't get at least 5-10 recruiters to start off with (at the time this message was sent out, 2 recruiters have volunteered), the Recruitment Centre will not open. If interested, make sure you meet the criteria, read the process and add your name to the list of recruiters. (One of the great things about being a recruiter is that there is no set requirement of what must be taught and when. Instead, all the content found in the process section is a guideline of the main points that should be addressed during a recruitment session...you can also take an entire different approach if you wish!) If you think you will not have the time to recruit any users at this time but are still interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still add your name to the list of recruiters but just fill in the "Status" parameter with "Not Available".
  • Co-Director: The current Director for the centre is me (Dom497). Another user that would be willing to help with some of the tasks would be helpful. Tasks include making sure recruiters are doing what they should be (teaching!), making sure all recruitments are archived correctly, updating pages as needed, answering any questions, and distributing the feedback form. If interested, please contact me (Dom497).
  • Nominators, please read this: If you are not interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still help. In some cases a nominator may have an issue with an "inexperienced" editor (the recruitee) reviewing one of their nominations. To minimize the chances of this happening, if you are fine with a recruitee reviewing one of your nominations under the supervision of the recruiter, please add your name to the list at the bottom of this page. By adding your name to this list, chances are that your nomination will be reviewed more quickly as the recruitee will be asked to choose a nomination from the list of nominators that are OK with them reviewing the article.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. I look forward to seeing this program bring new reviewers to the Good article community and all the positive things it will bring along.

A message will be sent out to all recruiters regarding the date when the Recruitment Centre will open when it is determined. The message will also contain some further details to clarify things that may be a bit confusing.--Dom497 (talk)

This message was sent out by --EdwardsBot (talk) 14:45, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject AFC needs your help... again

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from July 1st, 2013 – July 31st, 2013.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 1000 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

A new version of our AfC helper script is released! It includes many bug fixes, new improvements and features, code cleanup, and more page cleanups. If you want to see a full list of changes, go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Helper script/Development page. Please report bugs and feature requests there, too! Thanks.

Delivered at 12:45, 19 June 2013 (UTC) by EdwardsBot (talk), on behalf of WikiProject AFC

RE: Your submission at Articles for creation

Hi, Puffin. As far as I am aware, I have not created or submitted any articles to Wikipedia, and I have no idea what "Winter's Thrall" is either. Any idea as to what might be going on? Can an IP be used by more than one person? I have firewall and antiviral software installed, so I can't see how someone else might be using my IP. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

(talk page stalker) Don't worry - this was over 2 years ago. Also, your appear to have a Dynamic IP; which changes daily anyway. Mdann52 (talk) 12:15, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

stop

stop — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.25.244 (talk) 15:20, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis Bratland

Hello, Puffin.

I want speak with you about Dennis Bratland.

This user blocked information about new technologies - helmet mounted display systems in the motorcycle helmets. It's not a commercial info - it's only tech facts about new product.

If you have any questions about our product, please ask me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewart (talk • contribs) 15:50, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gotta get some action

Good day=) Sorry for the uploading of the image. Maybe I did something wrong? This is the official cover of the song by The Hellacopters. Could you please explain, what should I add in "rational usage"? --ВікіПЕДист (talk) 14:46, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You need to add a rationale. You've done it on your other uploads, like File:GET_REAL-math_the_band.jpg Puffin Let's talk! 16:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Thank you. I've forgot to do it in rush) But I also have another question. Tell me please, may I load the covers of singles to The Hellacopters singles? Cause I saw similar situation in Mew discography (one user uploaded them and added to templates, but at the next day another user deleted those images). I have already asked this question to some users, but they ignored this one and didn't answer=( --ВікіПЕДист (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia Library

Hey! I've done a major redesign of The Wikipedia Library portal. As one of our original volunteers, I'd love you to check it out, pick a role, create a profile to share your story and skills, sign up for the newsletter, and see how you can get involved. I'd also be interested in having a skype chat with you in the next few weeks to see how we can best put your energy to use (or email if that's better for you). Hope you're doing well, Ocaasi t | c 13:25, 28 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to WikiProject Invention

Hello, Puffin.

You are invited to join WikiProject Invention, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of inventions and invention-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 10:17, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - September 2013

The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter
Volume III, no. 1 – September 2013

Note: If you would like opt out from receiving future newsletters, please place a note next to your name on the project's participant list.
Project News
  • The project has been updated with new Goals, with target numbers of 500 each for Featured and Good articles, and for 10% of all project-related articles to be improved to B-Class or better.
  • A new Welcome squad section has been added to the project's main page. If interested, please sign on!
  • A new DYK articles page has been created listing food and drink articles that have been featured on Wikipedia's Main page as Did you know entries. Please add new food and drink DYK articles to the list!
  • The project's Top-level importance nominations page has several new entries. New additions and discussion are always welcome.
  • A proposal to create a Chocolate Task Force is currently being discussed.
  • The new ' was created in June 2013.
  • The icon Coffee portal was significantly expanded in May–June 2013.
Breakfast foods
Breakfast foods
  • Please see the project's Tasks and To do sections for project and article tasks, and feel free to update the lists with new entries.
  • Please feel free to contribute to the creation of the newsletter's next issue. Any and all contributions are welcome!
  • The project's previous newsletter was published in August 2008. Its reintroduction has been performed in hopes to increase project participation. Apologies if you did not wish to receive this newsletter (see opt-out message at top).
  • New members who have joined in July–August, 2013:
The project currently has 97 members. Please feel free to welcome the new members!
Also, in July 2013, (at least) 41 new food/drink-related articles were created. To view a listing of them, see New articles. Also, please add new articles to the list when discovering them!
  • Past newsletters:
  • Portals
Portals

Food and drink articles by quality and importance

  • There are currently 26,063 articles and 10,184 stubs attributed to the project.

WP:Food

It would be appreciated if you joined in the conversation occurring at WT:Food regarding the layout and presentation of the project's main page. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:29, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

October 2013 AFC Backlog elimination drive

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from October 1st, 2013 – October 31st, 2013.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 2500 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

A new version of our AfC helper script is released! It includes many bug fixes, new improvements and features, code enhancements, and more. If you want to see a full list of changes, visit the changelog. Please report bugs and feature requests there, too! Thanks. --Mdann52talk to me!

This newsletter was delivered on behalf of WPAFC by EdwardsBot (talk) 15:07, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - October 2013

The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter
Volume III, no. 2, October 2013

Note: To opt out from receiving future newsletters, please click here for instructions.                                      

Project News

  • An updated front page, A new sister project and updates to our DYK page
— View by clicking [show] —

Article alerts

— View by clicking [show] —

Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink/Article alerts

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

Curabitur pretium tincidunt lacus. Nulla gravida orci a odio. Nullam varius, turpis et commodo pharetra, est eros bibendum elit, nec luctus magna felis sollicitudin mauris. Integer in mauris eu nibh euismod gravida. Duis ac tellus et risus vulputate vehicula. Donec lobortis risus a elit. Etiam tempor. Ut ullamcorper, ligula eu tempor congue, eros est euismod turpis, id tincidunt sapien risus a quam. Maecenas fermentum consequat mi. Donec fermentum. Pellentesque malesuada nulla a mi. Duis sapien sem, aliquet nec, commodo eget, consequat quis, neque. Aliquam faucibus, elit ut dictum aliquet, felis nisl adipiscing sapien, sed malesuada diam lacus eget erat. Cras mollis scelerisque nunc. Nullam arcu. Aliquam consequat. Curabitur augue lorem, dapibus quis, laoreet et, pretium ac, nisi. Aenean magna nisl, mollis quis, molestie eu, feugiat in, orci. In hac habitasse platea dictumst.

Fusce convallis, mauris imperdiet gravida bibendum, nisl turpis suscipit mauris, sed placerat ipsum urna sed risus. In convallis tellus a mauris. Curabitur non elit ut libero tristique sodales. Mauris a lacus. Donec mattis semper leo. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Vivamus facilisis diam at odio. Mauris dictum, nisi eget consequat elementum, lacus ligula molestie metus, non feugiat orci magna ac sem. Donec turpis. Donec vitae metus. Morbi tristique neque eu mauris. Quisque gravida ipsum non sapien. Proin turpis lacus, scelerisque vitae, elementum at, lobortis ac, quam. Aliquam dictum eleifend risus. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Etiam sit amet diam. Suspendisse odio. Suspendisse nunc. In semper bibendum libero.

Proin nonummy, lacus eget pulvinar lacinia, pede felis dignissim leo, vitae tristique magna lacus sit amet eros. Nullam ornare. Praesent odio ligula, dapibus sed, tincidunt eget, dictum ac, nibh. Nam quis lacus. Nunc eleifend molestie velit. Morbi lobortis quam eu velit. Donec euismod vestibulum massa. Donec non lectus. Aliquam commodo lacus sit amet nulla. Cras dignissim elit et augue. Nullam non diam. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Aenean vestibulum. Sed lobortis elit quis lectus. Nunc sed lacus at augue bibendum dapibus.
  • Feel free to welcome the new members who have recently joined the project.
— View by clicking [show] —
The project currently has 87 active members.
— View by clicking [show] —
Past newsletters

Food and drink articles by quality and importance

— View by clicking [show] —
Article statistics
Food and Drink WikiProject
article assessment
Food and drink articles by quality and importance
Quality Importance
Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total
FA 7 13 28 48
FL 2 1 3
FM 139 139
GA 13 24 73 251 5 366
B 56 235 331 580 63 1,265
C 81 389 955 2,724 467 4,616
Start 22 322 1,642 9,856 5 3,791 15,638
Stub 17 559 7,838 5,041 13,455
List 11 69 109 466 23 271 949
Category 9 1 7,609 7,619
Disambig 157 157
File 2,999 2,999
Portal 614 614
Project 384 384
Redirect 10 71 537 2,681 3,299
Template 947 947
Other 3 188 191
Assessed 183 1,084 3,754 22,284 15,746 9,638 52,689
Unassessed 20 1,956 1,976
Total 183 1,084 3,754 22,304 15,746 11,594 54,665
WikiWork factors (?) ω = 181,901 Ω = 5.14

Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...

New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian

Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.

New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis??

New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges

News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions

New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration

Read the full newsletter

Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 21:04, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion is valued at WikiProject Breakfast

Please see Want to be a guinea pig for Flow?. XOttawahitech (talk) 17:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of If Love Was Born To Die Cover.jpg

Hello Puffin,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged If Love Was Born To Die Cover.jpg for deletion, because it doesn't appear to contain any encyclopedic content. Take a look at our suggestions for essential content in short articles to learn what should be included.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Livit⇑Eh?/What? 15:23, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Puffin. You have new messages at Livitup's talk page.
Message added 17:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Livit⇑Eh?/What? 17:33, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Puffin&oldid=582232810"