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Switzerland, represented by Nemo (pictured) with "The Code", wins the Eurovision Song Contest.
A series of solar storms impact Earth, creating aurorae seen further from the poles than usual.
Former prime minister of Fiji Frank Bainimarama is sentenced to one year in prison for attempting to pervert the course of justice.
Mahamat Déby is declared the winner of the Chadian presidential election.
Flooding in Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil, leaves more than 140 people dead and at least 130 others missing.

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ITN Criteria

The In the news section should have 3-5 items. The criteria for inclusion, as decided through community consensus, are:

A story should be listed at Portal:Current events, or one of its subpages.
The current event needs to be important enough to warrant updating the corresponding article.
It should be a story of an international importance, or at least interest.
The article must be updated to reflect the new information and have a recent date linked (but remember: Wikipedia is not a news report so relatively small news items should not be put into articles; thus those type of news items should not be displayed on the Main Page).
A death should only be placed on ITN if it meets one of the following criteria:
1. the deceased was in a high ranking office of power at the time of death,
2. the deceased was a key figure in their field of expertise, and died unexpectedly or tragically,
3. the death has a major international impact that affects current events. The modification or creation of multiple articles to take into account the ramifications of a death is a sign that it meets the this criterion.
A short headline should be written for the current event and the link to the article that was updated based on the current event should be emboldened.
One and only one image should be included on Template:In the news at any one time, and it must be protected. It should be no more than 100 pixels wide, be right justified, and have alt text. This can be done by enclosing the image code in <div style="float:right"> </div> and adding |100px| followed by the alt text inside the image code, for example: <div style="float:right">[[Image:example-photo.jpeg|100px|This is an example]]</div>. The use of the "|right" extended image markup should be avoided, since under the current MediaWiki parser it results in unsightly and unsymmetrical white borders around images on the coloured Main Page sections. When adding an image of a person, be sure to add "(pictured right)" to the news entry for clarity.
Avoid using fair use images. Instead, find a related free image (PD, GFDL, CC etc.) as an alternative.

Suggested additions

Check the criteria above before making your suggestion. Place new suggestions at the top under the appropriate date heading (create a new date header if necessary). Remember Wikipedia is not a newspaper. There must be an existing encyclopedic article on Wikipedia regarding the subject. Do not link to external news sites here. Instead, add those to the subject's article as references.

Please use the following format for the candidate item:

Start the entry with a dot point/bullet (type an asterisk)

The candidate item written in simple present tense summary format, short and to the point, with the main article in bold and minimal pertinent links.

Add any additional comments you may have below --and sign & date your entry 12:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

The next editor has something to say about the suggestion. --They've also signed their comment 12:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Another person has continued the discussion --User's Name 12:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

And so on. When continuing the discussion please refrain from using dot points/bullets to allow the candidates to stand out from the discussion. Indent your comments for clarity.

July 26

Steve Bracks resigns as Premier of the Australian state of Victoria. 129.94.6.28 01:09, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
8 of the 23 South Koreans held hostage by the Taliban in Afghanistan are released, while one of the hostages is executed. The Taliban gives further warning that the remaining hostages will be killed. --71.147.51.99 17:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The article needs a lot of work before it can be boldlinked to from the Main Page. A ecis^Brievenbus 18:20, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was tempted to nominate the incident where George Galloway was thrown out of the Commons chamber, following a report about his alleged cooperation with the Iraqi regime under Saddam - but is it notable outside the UK? --Camptown 08:23, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From what I understand, he was simply asked/ordered to leave the room. I don't think that is sufficiently newsworthy or notable for ITN. Cows fly kites (Aecis) ^Rule^/^{Contributions} 15:03, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He was suspended from the commons. But no, this is not all that unusual, and in this case is not of international importance. Badgerpatrol 15:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unusual or not - I understand that no MP has been named under Standing Order 44 for at least a decade. --Camptown 16:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Extreme high temperatures in south-eastern Europe cause over 500 deaths.

If damage to carpets in Gloucestershire merited inclusion, then surely the deaths of several hundred people do. Widely reported away from the area of affected, and clearly verifiable. Kevin McE 10:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mr McE. As someone who suffered during the severe flooding in England in October 2000 I take exception to your remark. I can assure that being the victim of a flooded dwelling is somewhat more serious than a stain on the carpet. In a timber-frame house it can mean demolishing the entire interior. In many cases it means becoming homeless for extended periods like 6 months to a year. On these occasions when whole streets and towns are affected there is an enormous demand for tradesmen to perform repairs and such work cannot usually be undertaken immediately or cheaply. Insurance cannot cover the loss of all things destroyed by flooding. When Lewes was flooded in October of 2000 the centre of the town became a ghost-town for almost a year. Many businesses were ruined and did not return. Please appreciating that a flood is devastating to those who suffer it. Jooler 12:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I apologise, and I sympathise. But in terms of global newsworthiness, once any local parochial interest is removed, it is small beer. I found it offensive that the flooding in the West Country was featured in the main page when comparable, but far more serious, meteorological events the same week (30 killed in Indonesia, 150 killed in China), or floods that caused hundreds of thousands of (presumably uninsured) people to be left homeless earlier in the year, garnered no such attention. I had been accusing ITN admins of anglophone-centricity and lack of world perspective yesterday, and this comment, which I will admit may have been ill-judged, was a hang-over from that. Kevin McE 13:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I endorse putting this up, although the article needs some editing. So many deaths in so many countries is relevant and noteworthy. Cows fly kites (Aecis) ^Rule^/^{Contributions} 14:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 25

The People's Democratic Movement (RPDC) wins the Cameroonian general election, retaining its majority in the National Assembly. --Camptown 14:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse. I don't see why it shouldn't be up there. --Plasma Twa 2 18:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, I'll second. Posting. The Tom 23:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One reason why it may not be proper is that we haven't got full results yet -- seven seats are still missing... —Nightstallion 06:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly, but RPDC's majority wont be threatened. Besides, it's seems to be a common practice to announce election results on ITN long before the official results have been finally determined. --Camptown 07:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, results for the Philippine general election, 2007 were never posted on ITN. --Howard the Duck 10:39, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly was, but with a slightly different hook than you had suggested: "The death toll for violence associated with the general election in the Philippines reaches 126." --Camptown 11:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article at that time didn't have the results; the official results were released by early June and was ignored at this page. --Howard the Duck 14:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New picture needed (as the skyscraper article has been removed). How about this flooding picture? Camptown 21:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Originaly posted at WP:ERRORS, copied by ffm 22:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Maybe

to go with the new item about doping in cycling? --199.71.174.100 23:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That was very quick, Jacoplane. Thank you. --199.71.174.100 23:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 24

"Cycling team Astana withdraws from the 2007 Tour de France, after team leader Alexander Vinokourov from Kazakhstan tests positive for blood doping."

Massive doping case involving one of the Tour favourites, in one of the largest sporting events in the world, in a sport already under fire for previous doping cases. Last year's winner Floyd Landis, for instance. A ecis<csup>Brievenbus 18:50, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't win = not ITN worthy. --Howard the Duck 00:06, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, he won the stage (by a very big margin) in which he was caught positive. But this is not about winning or losing, since this is not about putting a sports results on ITN. This is about putting a doping case on ITN. And Vinokourov is notable, the Tour is notable and doping in cycling is notable.A ecis^Brievenbus 00:25, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vinokourov is notable (who is this guy?), the Tour is notable and doping in cycling is somewhat notable. But cycling in general and doping in cycling in particular is not yet that notable. And is this a breaking news? I haven't seen it a while ago. Maybe later. --Howard the Duck 00:55, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vinokourov is one of the top cyclists. He won the 2006 Vuelta a España (Tour of Spain), and won several other notable competitions. See his article. He was the favourite of the bookmakers (15/8) to win the Tour. He finished 5th in the Tour in 2005 and 3rd in 2003. I think cycling is most definitely notable. It's much more notable in Europe than elsewhere in the world, true, but it's definitely notable. And doping in cycling is absolutely notable. In fact, I think cycling is the sport that receives the most attention for doping, where doping is so entrenched. The positive test was revealed this afternoon. See BBC, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC/ESPN and CBS, for starters. A ecis^Brievenbus 01:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One thing though: Wikipedia is not BBC, CNN, etc. If you thought cycling had the most dopers, obviously, you haven't seen that guy from San Francisco. Now if I get that mafia guy on ITN I'll be a happy man (lol). --Howard the Duck 01:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True, Wikipedia is not BBC, CNN, etc. I just gave you the links to show you that this is not just another guy doing just another thing, that this really gets a lot of attention. Cycling may not have the most dopers, but I do believe that doping in cycling gets a lot more attention than doping in athletics, doping in football, doping in baseball etc. Doping at the Tour de France even has its own article. A ecis^Brievenbus 01:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I say post, although perhaps with a reword along the lines of "Alexander Vinokourov of Kazakhstan, the odds-on favourite to win the 2007 Tour de France, is disqualified after testing positive for blood doping." Better to get the individual notability across right away, and leave the team politics out of it. There's also a fair-use picture available (it'll need to be cropped horizontally, IMHO), which we're going to need soonish. The Tom 05:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Post On a worldwide scale, this story is massive, with far bigger interest (esp outside USA) than the current sport story, Harrington's Open win, which has had its 15 minutes of fame. It is so much more than a sports result: it is key to the perception of the sport (the 2nd biggest spectator sport in Europe), and will be cited for many years to come. Kevin McE 08:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: it turns out Vino hasn't just tested positive after stage 13, but also after stage 15, which he won as well. The very well informed French sports newspaper l'Equipe reports that another cyclist has tested positive for testosterone after stage 11... Cows fly kites (Aecis) ^Rule^/^{Contributions} 12:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Christian Moreni has tested positive for testosterone after stage 11, his team, Cofidis, have withdrawn from the Tour. I suggest something along the lines of "Cyclists Alexander Vinokourov of Kazakhstan and Christian Moreni of Italy test positive for doping at the 2007 Tour de France." or "Cycling teams Astana and Cofidis withdraw from the 2007 Tour de France, after their riders, Alexander Vinokourov and Christian Moreni respectively, test positive for doping." The latter is probably too wordy. A ecis^Brievenbus 18:32, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Major update: Race leader Michael Rasmussen has been pulled out of the Tour by his team, for violating an internal doping code... A ecis^Brievenbus 21:30, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The doping crisis has now resulted in its own article: Doping at the 2007 Tour de France. If this is put on ITN, I believe this article should be bolded. A ecis^Brievenbus 21:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added it to ITN, even though the bolded article is still under construction. Wearer of the yellow jersey Michael Rasmussen has been pulled out of the Tour by his own team. Feel free to reword the blurb accordingly. A ecis^Brievenbus 21:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This shouldn't be up. Plenty of other scandals in other sports too, why is this different? Maybe if Contador goes on to win it a mention can be made about the controvesy in the Tour this year but ITN worthy? 90.25.0.187 22:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is notable because of the people involved (Rasmussen and Vinokourov), because of the event involved (the Tour de France), because of the sport involved (cycling) and because of the immense media attention on doping during this particular Tour. A ecis^Brievenbus 22:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well if youre going to be a rogue admin please get your info right. Rasmussen has been pulled out for violating team rules, not for "allegation of doping violations".90.25.0.187 22:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This has nothing to do with being rogue. There was a consensus to post the Tour de France. The problem is just that new information arose after the consensus was reached. Updating a blurb has nothing to do with being rogue.

I agree that the original wording wasn't fully accurate. I have changed it. If you have a better alternative, please do suggest it. A ecis^Brievenbus 22:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to disagree but since the news included the race leader, it should be added. Nicely done. --Howard the Duck 01:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note as Aecis said, there was an apparent consensus to post this before he posted it (see [1] & [2] if you don't believe). Howard the Duck was the only person who had voiced an uncertainty and it didn't appear to be that strong (and as we now learn, he's changed his mind). 2 people other then Aecis in support may seem hardly a consensus but we're lucky to get that on ITN. It was fair and quite correct for Aecis to assume there was a consensus in the absence of any clear opposition to it's inclusion. Now that it's been posted for a while, you are the only one who has (that I've seen) opposed it which suggests again it was hardly controversial. As such, calling Aecis a rogue admin in this instance hardly seems fair Nil Einne 07:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The only reason that I'd agree with this was because the current race leader was also one the culprits. If Rasmussen wasn't included, I'd still oppose. BTW, rouge admins are cool. --Howard the Duck 10:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 23

A major tenth-century Viking hoard is discovered near Harrogate in northern England. --Camptown 09:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Possibly the greatest Viking treasure discovery in recent years. The news seem to meet all ITN-criteria. --Bondkaka 15:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why this is being ignored. --Howard the Duck 07:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After having some links fixed, I think the item is ready to be posted. --Camptown 08:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: why not instead of "England", lets use "the United Kingdom"? --Howard the Duck 12:01, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because the north of the United Kingdom is different from the north of England? Because northern England is more specific? I don't understand why you'd want to use "United Kingdom" as it would just cloud the issue, since it's not the sort of thing which applies to every country in the UK -Halo 16:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I actually don't think which is more "popular," "England" or "United Kingdom". You don't actually say "The 33rd G8 summit takes place in Heiligendamm, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, amid anti-globalization protests," you'd say Harrogate, United Kingdom. As for cardinal directions, I'd omit them completely, unless they're part of the name (like West Glamorgan). --Howard the Duck 00:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in analogy to "Heiligendamm, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern", you'd say: Harrogate, Yorkshire. And technically, the United Kinddom is not a country, but a way of life. ;D --Camptown 08:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In general, in my experience, you use the specific country names unless you're referring to the whole - check "London, England" vs. "London, United Kingdom" or "Edinburgh, Scotland" vs. "Edinburgh, United Kingdom" or even "Belfast, Northern Ireland" vs. "Belfast, United Kingdom" on Google for example. If someone asked what country I was in, I'd say "England" before I said "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Comparing it with German states is a little unfair, because there are greater historical and political differences between the countries in the United Kingdom versus that the relatively modern states of Germany, particularly in respect of things like devolution, separate sports teams for the majority of sports etc. -Halo 01:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What are we waiting for? Put it up now! --Bondkaka 08:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't this on DYK a few days ago? --199.71.174.100 23:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Major flooding in the UK causes severe water shortages to 350.000 people and prompt an herculean rescue effort by emergency services. Marco Alfarrobinha {chat}_{contributions} 11:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Big news in Britain, but is it really internationally notable? --Bondkaka 15:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Bolded link). Probably. The early late June flooding definately was but it took a while for the article to get up to scratch and then it goes forgotten about for a while. Someone mentioned it which I noticed & I decided to push for it byt by that time, everyone had forgotten about it due to the terror plot (which I still think was silly but anyway...). As I remarked at the time rescue effort that is "biggest in peacetime Britain" and "damage to business and property is estimated to be over £1.5 billion" says it all to me. For this latest incarnation of the flooding, while it's nor particular clear to me how this compares to the earlier flooding I noticed "The RAF said it is carrying out its biggest ever peacetime operation, with six Sea King helicopters rescuing up to 120 people. The Environment Agency describes the situation as "critical"." which suggests to me it is as well. I suggest a re-wording though but I can't think of how to word it specifically Nil Einne 15:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I fell it is internationally notable, it's the main international story on the CBS website.[3] --Philip Stevens 15:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse both of these two. ITN material. --Howard the Duck 16:00, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I also think that both are good for the ITN. --Credema 17:13, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The first needs someone to fix its referencing, but they're both ITN-worthy. 17Drew 17:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The biggest ever claim about the floods is possibly dubious, it may be the biggest peace time operation for the RAF, but that isn't what is being implied. Addhoc 19:40, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 22

Election in Turkey

The 136th Open Championship at Carnoustie Golf Links in Scotland is won by Padraig Harrington to become the first European in eight years to win a golf major. Buc 18:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish voters go to the polls for general elections. The ruling AKP led by the Prime Minister of Turkey Tayyip Erdogan wins a resounding victory. (BBC), (Reuters)

The general election is notable. -- Cat ^chi? 10:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Very much so, however generally we only list the verified result of national elections. --Monotonehell 10:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That will be published tonight in less than 10 hours. Putting it in advanced will do no harm and would show that we update notable events as it happens. -- Cat ^chi? 11:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Have the official and full results been published? And have they been added to the article? Because the BBC says that "some three-quarters of votes" have been counted. A ecis^Brievenbus 23:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited the headline; characterizing the AKP's victory as a "landslide" seems a bit much. The party lost ground on its previous result and failed to win a majority of the vote. By Turkish historical standards, it's just another majority win not broadly remarkable by its scale. The Tom 02:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 21

The 136th Open Championship starts at Carnoustie Golf Links in Scotland. --nom Camptown 09:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is notable all around the world, and the article is continiously updated. --Camptown 09:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

After Tiger Woods wins by Sunday, then this should be posted. But not now. --Howard the Duck 10:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should it be "Tiger Woods wins a third Open Championship in a row. In that case. Buc 21:26, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If Tiger Woods wins, it would be more than notable! --Bondkaka 21:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Or, if the current deficit holds, Tiger Woods comes within eight strokes of winning his third The Open Championship. :) Joe 05:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, no. If Woods does not win then we should mention who does win. --Monotonehell 08:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tiger Woods wins the a third Open Championship and defeats the Vulcans who had planned to take over the world. Tiger Woods buys a coffee... Ok, I'll stop. It is a major golf championship, and regardless of the winner it should go up. We don't put the winner of the Super Bowl up only if it's the Cowboys. --Plasma Twa 2 08:58, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, my comment was entirely facetious in spirit, consistent with the tendency of some sports media in the United States to report Tiger's performance in any golf tournament as the principal story, even where he fails to win; I'm sorry that wasn't clear. Joe 17:43, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Tiger can catch up, but I still remember Retief Goosen choking on the 4th round of the U.S. open. BTW, the winner will be known in a couple of hours, I think. --Howard the Duck 09:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pratibha Patil (pictured) elected as the first woman President of India. --Natrajdr 14:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New President elected in the world's largest democracy. Also, she is the first woman to occupy the post which makes it all the more note-worthy. --Natrajdr 14:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Camptown 14:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As much as I believe that the subject in itself is notable and relevant enough for ITN, neither the article Pratibha Patil nor the article Indian presidential election, 2007 has received substantial updates related to the election. The infobox on Pratibha Patil has been edited, and the lead sections of both articles have been updated. There is a lot of information about the election process and the campaign, but very little information about the election itself. A ecis^Brievenbus 14:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that's nonsense. The article has been 10 times more updated in the last couple of days than the ridiculous Harry Potter item you’ve posted. --Camptown 18:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Has it? What are the updates to the articles? The article Pratibha Patil has an update to the infobox, and two relevant sentences in the lead. The article Indian presidential election, 2007 has two relevant sentences in the lead. That's it. No tables, no reactions, nothing. If they are included, this nom has my support. But only then. And please, regardless of how you think of Harry Potter being on ITN, let's keep that out of this discussion, shall we? A ecis^Brievenbus 19:53, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Has my full support, should be put immediately. --Effer^AKS 20:04, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Effer, put it up now! --Bondkaka 21:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Should be put up asap, especially since the photo has been edited to just include Pratibha Patil herself -- Kitkatcrazy 21:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend the article be put up ASAP. Having it on the ITN will enable further updates to the article. --Natrajdr 22:20, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely. Arrow740 22:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ITN is not cleanup. Articles need to meet a certain standard before they can be included on ITN. Neither Pratibha Patil nor Indian presidential election, 2007 meets those standards. A ecis^Brievenbus 23:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Further flooding causes severe disruption across the United Kingdom. This is a renomination for the recently renamed article June 2007 United Kingdom floods. Yorkshiresky 14:49, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 20

Police in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam have detained about 200 political protesters and are being blamed for the deaths of over 100 of them during protesting of governments seizures of land and freedom of speech. (WikiNews)

This is an importnt issue, involving the deaths of over 100 people in their struggle for Human Rights. It should be front page material.

No Wikipedia article = no mention. --Howard the Duck 10:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It might be helpful if you read the criteria before making suggestions since the proposal is lacking in several key aspects including the lack of an updated article as JtD says and also the event is not currently mentioned in Portal:Current events Nil Einne 11:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 19

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling is released worldwide. (To be on main page on July 21st) Buc 19:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

or: The seventh and final book in the Harry Potter series of novels by J. K. Rowling is released worldwide. --Camptown 21:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to endorse this one. While it's just a book, it's going to be one of the largest books in a long time. It's the end of a highly loved series, too, so... There should be some mention of it being the last book, though. --Plasma Twa 2 22:23, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Generally ITN does not make mention of commercial work's releases, unless there's some unusual Internationally interesting fallout or happening. So if an article exists on Wikipedia documenting that please mention it here. --Monotonehell 22:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Currently, the article actually lacks sufficient updates. --Camptown 10:47, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, let me state that I do not care about Harry Potter. I have never read a page of any of the books nor seen more than three minutes of the movies. With that said, I think there have been plenty of updates in regards to the book's release, the early anticipation, the leaks, etc. I think this is a more than sufficiently large and important enough event to be on ITN. I think that, even though it's a commercial release, it's the commercial release of the final book in the single largest book series in the history of mankind- a series that has averaged 55 million in sales per book. Overall, I think that this absolutely should be on ITN. I don't believe that putting this up will look like an advertisement- it won't sell a single book for Rowling. Everyone who is going to buy it is going to buy it regardless of a posting on ITN. But what ITN is about is international news, and this release is the epitome of international news. Kicking222 13:51, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm not disputing most of what your saying nor am I saying it shouldn't be on ITN, ITN is not really about international news. Nil Einne 22:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What? Then what is it for? 87.244.70.107 23:29, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See Template:In the news Nil Einne 11:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria 3 for ITN is "It should be a story of an international importance, or at least interest." Evil Monkey - Hello 23:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I'm aware of that but "But what ITN is about is international news, and this release is the epitome of international news." is incorrect as ITN is not about international news. This was the point I was making and I think it's important that partipants in the discussion about ITN are aware of that. Nil Einne 11:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I endorse putting this up as well. This release is unprecedented, both in terms of sheer size (this book seems to be breaking a lot of sales records) and attention/coverage. This is an exceptional case. For this reason, unlike just about every other release, it is notable enough for ITN. A ecis^Brievenbus 19:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The book was released about 20 minutes ago. People were lining up in droves and camping out for the night. You don't get that for any other book. 211.26.224.189 23:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is July 21 in the UK. Shouldn't this be on the main page now? Joshdboz 23:41, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Posted. A ecis^Brievenbus 23:55, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks! Joshdboz 23:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Give me a "W", give me a "T", give me an "F". WTF? What's next Voltron (2008 film) on the Main Page on 2008? LOL. Unless, someone died or a war broke out because of the book. --Howard the Duck 03:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is no evidence that the level of interest for Voltron is anything near that of HP7 nor that it will be particularly noteable in the field movie releases. Perhaps the closest to HP7 in recent years was LOTR but even that was still not quite comparable IMHO Nil Einne 11:11, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is just Britocentrism. (LOL) The Voltron fans will be coming in droves......... not I really don't get what's big with this. There's no news in this, even the news agencies are reporting other more "encyclopedia-worthy" things, not this HP7 hype. In any case, I hope somebody tells me what happened so I won't have to buy a very expensive book. --Howard the Duck 09:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Currently a poor article - mainly about the plot (!) - it is an embarrassment for ITN. --Camptown 11:49, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

S/2007 S 4, a moon of Saturn, is discovered by the Cassini orbiter, bringing the number of known moons orbiting Saturn to 60. Laïka 19:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If only this article is expanded, we can replace this with the HP item... --Howard the Duck 05:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I love how people complain about Deathly Hallows... Anyway, I'm not much on space news, so I don't know how often a moon is discovered... Saturn has 60, though, so I don't think it's that big of news. If it was, say, Venus that had a moon, definetely. But if we put this one up I think we'll have to put the next twenty of them up. --Plasma Twa 2 08:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any new discovery, especially about moons and such, is suitable in the news section of an encyclopedia. Perhaps on CNN it isn't. --Howard the Duck 11:21, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 18

A steam pipe explodes in New York City (pictured) near Grand Central Station killing one person and injuring forty others. --Dtbohrer^{talk•contribs} 18:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On instinct I would say that this should be qualified, but we didn't put the earthquakes from a few days ago in for awhile, and they were alot more harmful... I'm going to give this a no for now. It seems like it was just an accident, I don't see what kind of relevence it has outside of the New York area. --Plasma Twa 2 22:20, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The story was picked up and covered around the world. The area in NYC where this occurred is not far from the U.N. and is also a major business center. Grand Central Terminal is a landmark building and a major tourist attraction, fairly well known internationally. Dhaluza 02:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that a story has been picked up by international media does not make it of international importance or interest. News services pick up all kinds of "cat up tree" stories. If this was simply a mechanical failure incident with no fatalities then it's of no importance to anyone outside of the local council. --Monotonehell 05:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There was one fatality, and another person was gravely injured. It was not carried as a "cat up tree" story, it was hard news (see [4] for example. It is a major disaster that will have significant economic impact. A significant section of the city is still under police lock-down with no foot or car traffic allowed in. Dhaluza 09:21, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the recent earthquake wasn't put on the the template because the article needed to be expanded... --Dtbohrer^{talk•contribs} 11:01, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By "cat up tree" story I mean a story that has little local importance to a news service but is shown for virtually entertainment reasons, out of morbid interest. Accidents like this happen all over the World, and are often reported all around the World in a short piece if there's some gripping vision. But after they are shown, there's usually no further follow up pieces. This item was shown all over the World on the day it occurred, but as soon as the vision was shown and there was no sign of terrorist activity it has been dropped. Therefore it's only of local concern and not really ITN material. --Monotonehell 13:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with some of the above comments. Most of the coverage of this explosion was about how it reminded New Yorkers of 9/11. As an event in itself, it received very little coverage, so I don't think this is suitable for ITN. A ecis^Brievenbus 19:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Aecis has made my point for me. Regardless of what economic impact it may have, this was not the reason it was picked up nor was it what the coverage concentrated on. I should also remark it only really received attention for a short time and was soon forgotten Nil Einne 22:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would support this nomination. The event is notable, and the article has been sufficiently updated. --Camptown 21:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick and three others were indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with the Bad Newz Kennels dog fighting investigation. (ESPN) - I was kinda surprised this wasn't already up there. --B 16:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NFL player behaving badly ≠ news--it's just continued evidence that the earth is spinning on its merry way around the sun. Granted, Vick's an exceptionally high-profile NFL player, and dog fighting is a rather odd charge, but my instinct is no. The Tom 17:26, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tis American only news. Not notable enough. --Plasma Twa 2 21:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even if David Beckham had been charged with dog fighting it's still unlikely to be ITN worthy. Perhaps if he'd been charged with the murder of Posh Spice (David I mean not Michael) Nil Einne 08:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above, I do not support the nomination. The great kawa 09:32, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The addition of the Jerry Yang item was out of process (no nomination here). See Template_talk:In_the_news#Jerry_Yang, for consensus to remove it. Carcharoth 12:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The board of Dow Jones & Company agrees to accept an offer of $5 billion from Rupert Murdoch's News Limited." I'd like a second opinion on this one. - Banyan Tree 09:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, not enough at Dow_Jones_&_Company#Buyout_offer yet. Need to see some reaction from the news media and other orgnaisations before there is enough there. Carcharoth 11:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would be inclined to agree, but with that said, it is absolutely noteworthy enough to be on ITN once the section of the article is fully fleshed out. -- Kicking222 11:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"TAM Linhas Aéreas Flight 3054 crashes upon landing in São Paulo, Brazil." No information on the number of casualties yet. Aecis^Brievenbus 23:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- TAM Linhas Aéreas Flight JJ 3054 carrying 174 people crashes in Congonhas International Airport, São Paulo, Brazil. (Reuters via MSNBC) (CNN) (BBC) Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 00:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely ITN-worthy IMHO. I would suggest "TAM Linhas Aéreas Flight JJ 3054 skids off a runway in Congonhas International Airport, São Paulo, Brazil and crashes with 176 on board". Fvasconcellos (t·c) 01:23, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The number of fatalities is now estimated at around 200. A ecis^Brievenbus 02:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support when it has more than the 7 sentences it has now (i.e., when more content is added). Pepsidrinka 01:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support adding it now. There is a team of editors over there that will be adding news as it comes through. Carcharoth 03:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added. It's expanded significantly since I last checked. Nice work. - Banyan Tree 03:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support adding this image.

Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 20:58, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The United States wins the 2007 IFAF World Cup -- Coasttocoast 18:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gotta be honest here... I have never heard of this. Ever. It certainly hasn't made the news anywhere in America, as I've already read ESPN.com and the NY Times this morning, but saw no mention of it. -- Kicking222 11:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with Kicking. When it comes to (American) football, only the Super Bowl is really notable enough for ITN. The World Bowl might be somewhat notable in times of drought, but the IFAF World Cup doesn't cut it imo. A ecis^Brievenbus 17:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 16

An apparent leak of the seventh J.K. Rowling novel Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, taking the form of hundreds of photographs of pages from the book, emerge online in the week prior to release, leading American publisher Scholastic to seek a subpoena to identify the pirate. The content of the leak is described by Scholastic spokesperson Kyle Good as "convincing" but Good refused to comment on its authenticity, only noting that it conflicted with two other claimed leaks. (New York Times) and (LA Times) Mrprada911 22:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would oppose this one. While the release of the book may be notable enough, I don't think the alleged leaking of unverified copies is. A ecis^Brievenbus 00:00, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil lifts Copa América after beating Argentina by 3-0 in the finals at Estadio José Pachencho Romero stadium in Maracaibo, Venezuela. --Natrajdr 12:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two points before this can be considered for inclusion. Firstly the term "lifts" is too obscure, so the headline will need to be revised. But more importantly, the article has almost no prose. There's nothing to read about there except a load of result tables. For this item to be included the article needs to be brought up to an encyclopedic standard instead of an almanac standard. --Monotonehell 13:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is a problem on many soccer-related articles though, for example, the UEFA Champions League 2006-07 - Knockout stage results article fails to note how "dramatic" the Lille-ManU game was. And if we'll include this, we'd better include the winner of the 2007 AFC Asian Cup as well, the tourney is more exciting that this, IMHO. --Howard the Duck 14:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A magnitude 6.7 earthquake kills 8 and injures 800 in Niigata, Japan in the 2007 Niigata earthquake. Cumulus Clouds 16:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I recognize that this needs to be expanded and desperately needs sources, but I'm hoping this will attract attention to the page so that it can be filled out in more detail. Cumulus Clouds 16:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While it's a little short at the moment, once it's expanded I fully endorse this. --Plasma Twa 2 17:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If this is put up, should we mention the leaking of contaminated water from the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Plant into the Sea of Japan? Japan has since been hit by another earthquake. I don't know if the two quakes are related. The article has been moved to 2007 Niigata earthquake, btw. A ecis^Brievenbus 18:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the major news sources are running that leak as their main story, also the second quake in the Sea of Japan was (I believe, at least) an aftershock, though it was a magnitude 6.8. Both should be mentioned and I'll try to add some more information. Cumulus Clouds 18:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest rewording to:

A magnitude 6.8 earthquake kills 8 and injures 800 in Niigata, Japan. —dgies^t_c 20:44, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest something along the lines of:

<insert correct number> people are killed and <insert correct number> injured following a magnitude 6.8 earthquake in Japan. Radioactive water from the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Plant has leaked into the Sea of Japan.

A ecis^Brievenbus 18:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In Japan, the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa Nuclear Power Plant sustains damages in a recent earthquake and leaks radioactive materials into the Sea of Japan.

Maybe we should avoid the death toll or casualty numbers if we are not sure about the figures. The numerical info can be dated quickly, anyways. --199.71.174.100 02:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"9 are killed, over a 1000 are injured and the world's largest nuclear power plant reports a sea of troubles after 6.8 magnitude earthquake jolts northwestern Japan." There's even some Shakespeare in there. Sir Poke 10:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added, in modified form. - Banyan Tree 01:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 14

Russia suspends compliamce with the treaty on Conventional Forces in Europe. --Fsotrain⁰⁹ 16:44, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support a new arms race in Europe is possible, but "Russia announced its suspension of observance of the CFE Treaty" sounds better. Mieciu K 17:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about the wording. Most obvious would be something along the lines of "Russia says...", but Russia is inanimate, it is not a person, it cannot say anything as such. "The government of Russia announces..." would be better, but preferable imo would be a person: "Vladimir Putin announces that Russia..." Any thoughts? A ecis^Brievenbus 00:49, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've gone ahead and added this based on the wording in the article, rather than waiting for consensus to emerge as to the exact desired wording. Thanks, Banyan Tree 04:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Fifteenth Pan American Games begin in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Felipe C.S ^{( talk )} 21:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Endorse this. I'm tired of seeing Alinghi and ETMZ on the main page. :p --Howard the Duck 15:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 13

Conrad Black's Guilty verdicts? Acceptable 18:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article isn't in the best condition, there's a few templates on it. But it's mostly okay. There has been a few updates with current info, but I'm unsure as to the International importance or interest of this item? --Monotonehell 19:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just one man, but I don't think I've ever heard of him. More concrete than the "importance" factor is that the article is not in particularly good shape, both in terms of current events updating and overall appearance. -- Kicking222 00:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd give it the thumbs-up provided the article is in good shape. Lead story in Canada and Britain. The guy is basically Rupert Murdoch minus a few degrees in the market share pie and a larger vocabulary. The Tom 04:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it needs a place there. It's a huge story in Canada and fairly big in the northern states too. And I agree with the large vocabulary comment, lol. ☭ Zippanova 04:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can't we add this? Some of the "news" are from July 3, almost 2 weeks ago! --Howard the Duck 06:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even though he's not a big figure in America, I'd be happy to support it getting put on ITN- but again, the article has exactly four sentences on the past year and a half of his troubles. If any of you guys who are so keen on it being placed on ITN feel like updating the article, then be my guest. -- Kicking222 13:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 12

Lady Bird Johnson, former First Lady of Lyndon Johnson, dies at 94. - Presidentman 15:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

American oly news. Not notable in any way. --Plasma Twa 2 15:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fails criterion # 5. --Howard the Duck 16:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 11

Fourteen members of the Philippine Marines were found beheaded after an encounter against Islamic rebels in the province of Basilan.

--Howard the Duck 11:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

endorse This is just... different than all the other military deaths in the past. --Plasma Twa 2 23:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 10

A small heads up: the Polish government will face a vote of no confidence in parliament tomorrow. If accepted (which is deemed likely by the media), the government will collapse, prompting early elections. The vote of no confidence comes after vice prime minister and Minister of Agriculture Andrzej Lepper was sacked for corruption at his ministry. In response, Lepper pulled his party out of the governing coalition. A ecis^Brievenbus 21:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the no confidence vote dissolves the government then we might have a notable news story, but I doubt we'd get any useful encyclopedic article up to standard in a timely manner. The article seems a bit emotive, bordering on POV, things like "and has been implicated in loud scandals." need to be cleaned up. There's far too many news paper articles in Wikipedia these days. --Monotonehell 04:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crisis has been averted for the moment, no news item. Suggestion withdrawn. A ecis^Brievenbus 17:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 9

Pope Benedict XVI (pictured) removes restrictions on celebrating the old Latin Mass, reviving an ancient Roman Rite Mass liturgy that was essentially abolished during the Second Vatican Council in 1962. --nom Camptown 10:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is important news with interesting implications for the Roman Catholic Church and its relation to other religious faiths. Camptown 10:16, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so... I mean, I've never heard of it before. It's big to catholics, but I'm wondering how many catholics actually know what it is. --Plasma Twa 2 10:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is really notable as the mass e.g. contains a prayer for jewish conversion. --Camptown 10:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I endorse putting this up. This is an interesting development, and the article deals with the subject in an encyclopedic way. We are able to provide encyclopedic background on a current event with this topic. A ecis^Brievenbus 10:25, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Generally the "I've never heard of it before" gauge only has a sample size of one and so holds little weight. I'm not at all Catholic and I know about the subject, but haven't heard the news. The item isn't on Portal:Current events as yet. The article has had a reasonable update.The Catholic Church is one of the largest Worldwide organisations so it satisfies the International Importance/Interest criteria. The question is, is this a large enough event within the Catholic Church? --Monotonehell 10:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It really is notable, considering that an entire line of pretender popes (sedevacantism) sprung up because of Vatican II. --Golbez 10:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I support this item. This might be the biggest challenge to the reforms of the Second Vatican Council. Pope Benedict seems so have decided this on his own initiative so the "I haven't heard about it"-reaction is probably "intentional". According to The Boston Globe, anybody can now request Latin Masses in their parish, and if the request is not met, they can appeal. The delicate problem with the Latin Mass is that it was abolished, not only for being in Latin, but also for being intolerant, and even anti-semetic. Bondkaka 10:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Posting. --Golbez 21:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 7

The New Seven Wonders of the World are announced in Lisbon, Portugal. --Effer^AKS 04:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't there anyone else who thinks this major important news? --Effer^AKS 04:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's just the publicized results of an internet poll that takes it upon itself to replace the old list, which I am willing to bet will still be the one that's always associated with the words "Seven Wonders". --Plasma Twa 2 10:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The 13 Live Earth concerts are held on each of the seven continents in an attempt to raise awareness of global warming. --Plasma Twa 2 10:12, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree with this nomination. It's a huge concert with many famous entertainers and singers on stages around the world. It also raises awareness about a really important issue in our world today. Eagle Owl 17:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article concerns me though, it talks e.g. about a predicted audience of 2 billion people to inspire activism. Large parts of the article reads like an ad for ticket sales and other practical advice such as contact information for various policy centers. Maybe, we'd better wait a couple of days till the most speculative assertions have been measured against reality. --Camptown 18:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This item is tempting, but there aren't too many updates to the article. To be honest, this article could have conceivably looked the same a few days ago as it does now. It still looks like a preview of the event rather than a review. -- tariqabjotu 01:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The event is certainly worthy of an article. But remember, Wikipedia is not a newspaper, we should only highlight retrospective articles not announcements. That's one of the differences between news and encyclopedia articles. --Monotonehell 04:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dunno about this, the concert is certainly more international and notable than that Diana concert a few weeks ago... --Howard the Duck 05:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is your "Dunno about this" directed at my comment or the nomination in general? --Monotonehell 07:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The nomination in general. Buf after much thought, this is too minor of an event. --Howard the Duck 09:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please reconsider. This is a really notable event, with concerts taking place across the world. It's bound to be on every news station so why shouldn't it be on Wikipedia. The article is has already been translated onto 22 different Wikipedias. Someone mentioned earlier that the article looks the same as before the concert took place. This probably because there are several articles spinning off from Live Earth such as Live Earth concert, London. I truly think this should be noted in our news. Eagle Owl 12:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added. --Jay(Talk) 03:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 5

Gun battle erupts between supporters of the Red Mosque in Islamabad and Pakistani security forces after six months of standoff. --nom Camptown 13:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 4

The International Olympic Committee announces PyeongChang, South Korea (or Sochi, Russia, as the case may be), as having won bidding to host the XXII Olympic Winter Games in 2014. Joe 21:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be away for a bit, and so I'll not have a chance to propose this upon its actually happening and upon the relevant article's being updated, but I think the item probably to merit ITN inclusion and think the underlying article to be quite fine, and so I suggest it as being appropriate upon the transpiring of the event (in 30 or so minutes) and the updating of the 2014 Winter Olympics bids article. Joe 21:53, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sochi, Russia is chosen by the International Olympic Committee as the host for the XXII Olympic Winter Games. I endorse it. --Plasma Twa 2 01:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think we would do better to link to, and embolden, the more precise, updated article (2014 Winter Olympics), but I imagine your wording to be a bit clearer than mine (although a comma ought probably to be situated after Russia; Russia acts, as set forth in Comma (punctuation)#Grammar, as a parenthetical phrase). Would there be any objection to the following:

Sochi, Russia, is selected by the International Olympic Committee to host the XXII Olympic Winter Games (in 2014; I really haven't a firm conviction about whether the date ought to be included). Joe 03:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Posted. --Golbez 03:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I should probably take this to Template talk:In the news, but I would observe, consistent with my proposed wording above (in which, I see, I mislinked), that the emboldened and linked-to article ought to be that relative to the selection itself and that which is more fully updated, viz., 2014 Winter Olympic bids (to which selected links), and that Russia ought to be followed by a comma. I've corrected the link in my revision, and I wonder whether there are any objections to our editing the posted item accordingly. Joe 03:41, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Joey Chestnut defeats Takeru Kobayashi in the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest by eating a world record 66 hot dogs. FireSpike 17:33, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spike, I, for one, definitely appreciate your enthusiasm and commitment to the project. With that said, I have seen you make three In the News suggestions, and none of them have been the stuff of ITN- a hot dog eating contest (which, by the way, I religiously watch every year, including today), a dead body in an elementary school, and the "Bong Hits for Jesus" ruling. Perhaps- and please know that I am saying this in the absolute kindest way possible- you should take another look at the ITN criteria. None of your three suggestions- especially the dead body and Joey Chestnut- have any sort of international- or even national- significance. -- Kicking222 03:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As I guy who eats hotdogs everyday, I support this. The defending champ is Japanese, so there is some interational interest in this thing. --Howard the Duck 03:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The dead body was a rookie mistake. The other one was suggested because as it was a fairly large ruling in the Supreme Court of the United States, and this Hot Dog one is of international importance because anybody that cares about competitive eating is interested, similar to the way that the NBA Championship results would be put in ITN. Also, you've probably seen all the Japanese coverage that goes on at the contest, so there is definitely international interest here. FireSpike 04:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Anybody that cares about competitive eating" is the operative phrase. Compared to the NBA (or any other major league sport), nobody cares about competitive eating (and I'm including myself, as I do care). It's not just a niche, but a very small niche. In this case, why not put the death of Lady Bird Johnson on ITN? After all, she had an international impact, and anyone who cares about the position of First Lady is certainly interested. Or, for that matter, why not post the winner of the ongoing World Series of Poker? At least they win $8.25M, which is far more than Joey Chestnut will ever see. -- Kicking222 02:22, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BBC reporter Alan Johnston, who had been held captive in Gaza since March, is freed. – Chacor 01:32, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 3

The London and Glasgow terrorist incidents have been linked to the same two men and the UK terror alert level remains at 'critical', the highest level, meaning a further terrorist attack is expected 'imminently'.

Replace the existing ITN item on the incidents with this. TerriersFan 22:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alinghi beats Emirates Team New Zealand in the final race of the 2007 America's Cup by one second, winning the regatta 5-2.

The America's Cup is the most prestigious and most famous regatta in the sport of sailing, and we have a substantial article on this year's event. My blurb needs to be improved to mention that its a sailing / yachting event for those who are unfamiliar with the event.-gadfium 19:56, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, they will click if they don't know what it is. Support this biatch!!58.104.61.196 02:26, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Evil Monkey - Hello 03:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

July 2

President George W. Bush pardons former White House aide Scooter Libby.--Thekittybomb 23:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He didn't pardon, but simply commuted the jail sentance. I'd support something along the lines of: President George W. Bush commutes the jail sentance for former White House aide Scooter Libby; the conviction still stands. Preston 23:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that sounds better tehn my version. --Thekittybomb 23:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I absolutely endorse putting this up, but I'm not sure it's possible to write a concise blurb without omitting important information. Just writing "American president George W. Bush commutes the sentence of Lewis "Scooter" Libby" doesn't provide enough context imo. A blurb should also include links to CIA leak grand jury investigation and to Plame affair. A ecis^Brievenbus 00:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am thinking of adding this: "President George W. Bush commutes the sentence of Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who had been sentenced to jail in the Plame affair." Thue | talk 01:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The trial over the murder of Turkish-Armenian journalist, Hrant Dink opens in Istanbul. (BBC) -- Aivazovsky 02:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is something that will probably go on for a while. Wikipedia is not a newspaper and as such we should not give blow by blow reports. When it's completed and we have an article that reflects the events in an encyclopedic manner then we should include an item in ITN --Monotonehell 13:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Corporal Bill Henry "Willy" Apiata of the Special Air Service of New Zealand is awarded the Victoria Cross for bravery under fire in Afghanistan in 2004. Evil Monkey - Hello 02:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is this receiving much International media attention? --Monotonehell 13:57, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not nearly as well covered as I thought it would be. [5][6][7] [8]. A wee bit of coverage, but nothing major. Award was only announced yesterday, so it may take a day to percolate into the rest of the media. Did we cover the latest Medal of Honor recipient (Jason Dunham), or the latest British VCs (Bryan Budd and Johnson Beharry)? I'm not accusing of any bias, just genuinely interested in seeing if there is some sort of precedent. Evil Monkey - Hello 21:54, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Answering my own question. For Johnson Beharry, there was an item added about four days after the award was announced. Seems to be the only one of the recent awards for bravery under fire that made it onto ITN.

Carlos Slim Helú overtakes Bill Gates to become the richest person in the world.

July 1

Hong Kong reverting to Chinese control, it's a big event. Colipon+(T) 08:04, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to a recent current event? This page is only for suggestions for posting current events on the "In the news" section on the main page. If instead you are wondering why the Transfer of the sovereignty of Hong Kong article was posted on the "On this day" section for June 30 instead of for July 1, please go to this discussion. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:58, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For anyone who is wondering, Hong Kong reverted to Mainland Chinese control 10 years ago. --Monotonehell 03:36, 2 July 2007 (UTC) Can't help myself || Revision as of 00:00, 30 June 1997 (edit) Chinese Govt (Talk) (→Hong Kong - RV, lease expired) ← Older edit || Sorry ;) --Monotonehell 13:53, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that perhaps we could have a note on the Concert for Diana in the news section. This is a huge concert airing in over 140 different countries with some of the most famous singers in the world performing. It may go something like:

Concert for Diana takes place at the Wembley Stadium to commemorate the 46th birthday of Diana, Princess of Wales. Eagle Owl 18:10, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to read the criteria and make a proper proposal and see what happens. Personally I don't think this qualifies as it's not of great international interest but no one is going to give it much heed in any case without a proposal in accordance with the criteria. Nil Einne 18:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not great international interest? It's being aired in 140 different countries and watched by 500 million people. Eagle Owl 18:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Such viewer estimates tend to be notoriously unreliable, especially given this is an estimate before the event has event taken place and I believe an estimate by the organisers (who have a good reason to want to lie). Also from what I can tell, the 140 different countries includes countries getting it via Star TV and other satellite networks. It's not quite the same thing as a local network choosing to pickup the show and it's only available to people who have access to the satellite network which in some cases may only be a small proportion of people in that country with a TV. Most significantly, the fact that it is broadcast in 140 countries does not indicate there is any significant interest in any of these countries. There does appear to be some interest in the UK, but beyond that international interest is not particularly clear Nil Einne 18:59, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

N.B. As this is a charity concert, if some sort of figure for the estimated amount of money collected is revealed e.g. at the end then this might the thing to concentrate on and is likely to have greater international interest then the concert itself Nil Einne 19:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure they wouldn't attempt to broadcast the event in the country if it wasn't going to be watched by many. And how on earth do you know if the organisers are going to lie about viewing figures? But anyway, it was only a suggestion and thank you for your quick responses and interest in the matter. Regards. Eagle Owl 19:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At the end of the day, this is purely a British matter. I haven't seen this on local TV, so we're not one of the 140 countries mentioned. --Howard the Duck 03:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Purely a British matter? Are you kidding? Well I have definitely heard about it here in New Zealand and I might add that it would be nice to have more items of international interest but less interest to Americans. Just because it doesn't happen in your neck of the woods doesn't mean it's not of high international concern. PageantUpdater 11:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So OK, "Commonwealth-matter", since after seeing some pics from the event there are certainly an abundance of Commonwealth singers like Joss Stone, Daniel's sister and Nelly Furtado (don't ask me why I highlighted the females). I'm not American or from the Western Hemisphere for that matter (LOL), but perhaps if this will be televised, maybe within the next few weeks, when its "news-ness" faded already. --Howard the Duck 13:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]