Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 June 17

Add links
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion‎ | Log

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Ram-Man (talk | contribs) at 19:32, 18 June 2016 (→‎Sitka city and, Alaska: Delete). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

June 17

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on June 17, 2016.

Batman in Barcelona: Dragon's Knight

So, besides the complete WP:SURPRISE, apparently, the redirect is an actual Batman comic series, so WP:REDLINK. Steel1943 (talk) 22:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AssCreed

Since this doesn't seem like a referenced nickname for the series (the redirects' target), this is probably vandalism. Steel1943 (talk) 22:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Juvenile humor at best, intentional vandalism at worst. JohannSnow (talk) 22:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Vandalism CSD may apply here. Anarchyte (work | talk) 02:49, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It is shortform that refers to the series as used by reliable industry sources ([1], [2], [3], [4] (as shortform in the URL) and by regular gamers in an entirely non-puerile way [5]. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 14:40, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The real Bond

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article. Without a reference citing this name being a known nickname for the subject, this redirect could serve as an ambiguous WP:SURPRISE because of James Bond and other topics. Steel1943 (talk) 21:34, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kid icarus wii

There was never a new Kid Icarus title release on the Wii. The target was released on the Wii's Virtual Console, but readers looking up this term would probably be looking for a nonexistent game released "new" during the Wii's generation. Steel1943 (talk) 21:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep being released on the Wii's Virtual Console is close enough for me, since there aren't other Kid Icarus titles on the Wii IIRC. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:55, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yanagisawa Asami

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Already deleted per G5 — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 20:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No source, created by Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Nipponese Dog Calvero. Lanwi1 (talk) 20:04, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Asami Yanagisawa

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Already deleted per G5 — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 20:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No source, created by Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Nipponese Dog Calvero. Lanwi1 (talk) 20:04, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

柳沢麻美

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was Already deleted per G5 — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 20:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No source, created by Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Nipponese Dog Calvero. Lanwi1 (talk) 20:03, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Wikipedia:Wikipedia:wikipedia

Seems redundant. Creation was not explained — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 19:58, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:wikipedia is separately at MfD. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 20:44, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sitka city and, Alaska

WP:RFD#DELETE #8. The omission of an entire word (Borough) makes this a very unlikely search term. BDD (talk) 19:42, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. That, and because Alaska Sitka city and doesn't exist. Steel1943 (talk) 19:44, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It was a mistake when I created it, but back then we didn't delete redirects so it was allowed to live. It serves no purpose otherwise. It should be speedily deleted. -- RM 19:32, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Competitive Counter-Strike

The redirect is not mentioned in the target article, making the use of the adjective "competitive" unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 19:38, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Marie-Andre Chenier

His full name was "André Marie Chénier." I can't imagine why someone would switch his names and then hyphenate them. -- Tavix (talk) 18:42, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sigehumi Hino

Delete per WP:XY and WP:R#D1. Shigefumi has had several roles, being the creator of Yoshi was just one of them. I don't think we should pigeon-hole our readers into just one facet of his career when search results would reveal that he's been a director for: Yoshi's Island, Pikmin, Pikmin 2, Pikmin 3, a designer for Super Mario Maker, and others. -- Tavix (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • A restoration of the previous article would also alleviate my concerns, although I'm unsure of the notability. -- Tavix (talk) 18:14, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
...Meaning that I also support restoration of the article. Steel1943 (talk) 19:29, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's a stretch that those looking for Hino are interested in his work on Yoshi, in particular (I don't think WP:XY applies, nor do I think D1 automatically applies for WP:XY...), but if you want to delete the redirects, AfD might be a better route. I am no longer watching this page—ping if you'd like a response czar 17:56, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Iron loss

Procedural nomination, linked to the bundled AfD at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Copper_loss. I suggest discussion takes place at the AfD page as the topics are smilar, but if folks from RfD disagree, I have no issue with un-bundling. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:41, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator comment: Unbundling because of numerous incoming links to Iron loss. I think Transformer#Energy_losses is a better target, since the term exists only in the context of transformers, if anything. TigraanClick here to contact me 16:06, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Super-Grammaticam

WP:TRIVIA, and doesn't appear in the article. It was indeed a title applied to the subject, but it is based on one source here, is based on one event, and appears to be nothing but Carlyle being facetious. MSJapan (talk) 17:26, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. It does appear in the article, just in the footnotes and without the dash. I've now included it in the body. Verifiable, lasting apocryphal stories of academic interest are generally fine. WP:TRIVIA does not apply in this case as this does not deal with a "trivia" section in anyway, but sourced, verifiable information in the body of the article. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Big state

The term "big state" is not in the target article. Also, "state" doesn't always mean "government". Steel1943 (talk) 14:03, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete unless anyone has any better suggestions. Now-banned user Falongen (and his various socks/anon edits) went nuts creating all these weird redirects/edits/redirect changes and caused no end of disruption, so I don't think anyone will miss this one.... Mabalu (talk) 14:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, plenty of google books hits for this sense. Siuenti (talk) 14:15, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:08, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmyjohns

Would this Neelix redirect be more suitable to redirect to Jimmy John's? A carboy is a typed a demijohn, and a demijohn is known as a jimmyjohn in the U.S. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:44, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that one's fine because of the lack of "s", though I did argue above that even with the "s" it should redirect to carboy, so others may disagree. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 15:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 14:58, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Counter-Srike

Unlikely typo. Izno (talk) 14:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per above. Prof. Mc (talk) 17:05, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I was actually thinking about nominating this myself a few hours ago when I noticed its existence. Steel1943 (talk) 17:36, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Indian America

I think this redirect maybe should be retargeted, but I don't know where. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 13:16, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Miss Emma

These Neelix redirect fails WP:WINAD because it is slang. Nominated them for speedy delete, but some were declined. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:10, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Maybe you'd better put all the others here too. I don't see how a redirect can constitute a dictionary entry; they're meant to aid navigation. That's just what these redirects do. Adam9007 (talk) 01:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment WP:WINAD also applies to slang. All of these are slang for morphine. There's also Morfa (drug) and Morphy (drug) but wasn't sure to nominate them. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:22, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • I wouldn't call a redirect a guide though. If the term refers to something (which these do) I wouldn't be surprised to see a redirect. Adam9007 (talk) 01:27, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The redirects guideline states that "If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name, it is unlikely to be useful." Thus, delete all. ViperSnake151  Talk  03:23, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Many of these are listed as informal names for morphine in reliable sources such as this one [7] ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 08:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all not in target article Morphine#Slang terms. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 04:23, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Most of them are now, with sourcing from here: [8]. White Nurse and White Merchandise are not there, but I saw some reliable sources using the latter when I declined the speedy. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 08:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This still fails WP:WINAD. An alias is not needed for every street name for a drug, which the book attempts to collect. Only the ones that are used prominently in news sources and most likely to be linked from other articles should be referenced. Just as with track listings and singles names. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:42, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep most as sourced, though I disambiguated "happy powder" and "joy powder" since the sources I found that led me to decline indicated that they could refer to several drugs. Those two should stay that way, and some of the other redirects may also need to be turned into DAB pages. "God's medicine" was redirected to Kenneth E. Hagin because he wrote a book of that name. If there's sources to link it to morphine or some other drug, that'll be worth a hatnote. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 08:09, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I've struck out the ones that have been deleted or no longer point to Morphine.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 12:57, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cat Claw

Redundant as the redirect "Cat claw" already exists. No need to capitalize the C in "claw." Proud User (talk) 11:25, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Such redirects from non-distinctive capitalisation variants are, to me, profoundly irritating. If they're kept, they add a maintenance burden: they're a hassle any time the redirect gets retargeted or recategorised. I think I remember seeing some of these get speedy deleted per WP:G6, the few ones I've tagged for CSD have invariably been declined. I nominated one here earlier this month and the outcome was keep (Although I think it's possible it was closed as "keep", rather than relisted, simply because I hadn't bothered to use bold typeface in the nomination.)
I think it's best if the WP:CSD criteria could be amended to explicitly include such redirects as eligible for speedy deletion. After all, even editors who support keeping such redirects would agree that they shouldn't have been created in the first place. Uanfala (talk) 12:45, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Me again: It seems that in the case of Cat Claw, it is a distinctive capitalisation variant as it can refer to Cat Claw (comic book), to which I suggest retargeting. Uanfala (talk) 12:51, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it'll be more sensible to move Cat Claw (comic book) back to Cat Claw as the disambiguator isn't necessary? Uanfala (talk) 12:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, as an alternative, "weak disambiguate" only the capitalized term, including the cat anatomy subject and the book on the list. Steel1943 (talk) 17:40, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Greatest Ever

Irrelevant names. NasssaNser talk|cont 10:41, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete POV redirect, with references in the infobox mentioning this nickname consisting of one failed ref and one dead link. OnionRing (talk) 11:05, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Totally WP:POV with, as shown above, failed reference verification. Steel1943 (talk) 17:42, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • And, since it looks like it has been created before, it may be wise to salt this title after deletion, but only two creations may be a little too early for tha course of action to be proven. So, I guess WP:G4 may work until creation protection is more obviously needed. Steel1943 (talk) 19:36, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ugh, Delete.. again. It already got zapped the last time, and it's clearly meant only for the purpose of peacocking the Ali Raymi article. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Astoria (disambiguations)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy deleted, G5. -- Tavix (talk) 16:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary redirect, as Wikipedia never uses (disambiguations) at the end of an disambiguation. NasssaNser talk|cont 09:35, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, this was created by what is clearly a sock of block user. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:40, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

For the sake of honor

This phrase seems to refer to books more than honorary degrees Oiyarbepsy (talk) 05:47, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete or Retarget to Alexander Shirvanzade who has a book with this title, the latter if the book is notable. There's also a book by Stephen Stallard but that author is not notable. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:07, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New flower

Origin of name, sure. Alternative name for the city, no. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Neelix nonsense. We don't redirect origin meanings of non-English proper names. Softlavender (talk) 04:39, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. Actually, we do do this since this is the English Wikipedia. English translations of foreign proper names are likely and plausible search terms because ... English. Steel1943 (talk) 17:44, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...And downgrade me to "weak": I must have overlooked the "Alternative name for the city, no." part. Steel1943 (talk) 17:48, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Anyone not familiar with the etymology of the city will just be confused, anyone who is familiar won't need a redirect page, and it's just plain silly regardless. JohannSnow (talk) 22:43, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete Obviously "new flower" could be anything, a city, a flower..... Anyone looking for a city is going to come from something saying "Addis Ababa means 'new flower'". Mangoe (talk) 00:47, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:XY Unless that city name is commonly known in English as New Flower. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:09, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Us Airways Company Store

Delete, the article doesn't discuss the US Airways Company Store, creating confusion in case anyone decides to search for it. From what I can find, the store didn't seem very noteworthy, so I don't know why it would be mentioned. The airline, and thus the store, is now defunct. I'm also adding the website for the same reasons; FWIW, the website is down for everyone. -- Tavix (talk) 03:28, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2018 AFC Champions League

Delete per WP:CRYSTAL until a proper, sourced article can be created. No specific information about this event exists at the target article. -- Tavix (talk) 03:18, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. --BDD (talk) 14:53, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 State of Origin series

Delete per WP:CRYSTAL until a proper, sourced article can be created. -- Tavix (talk) 03:15, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the harm in the redirect, as it will discourage recreation of the page by anon's but not opposed to deletion. Mattlore (talk) 07:01, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 Philippines national basketball team results

This is nonsense. You can't have results for something that hasn't happened yet. -- Tavix (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sundlaug

Here are some WP:RFOREIGN terms created by Tryggvia. They should all be Icelandic and none of the targets have any affinity with that language. -- Tavix (talk) 03:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Already linked to Icelandic Wikipedia. Does not need an entry in the English one. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:10, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tr8n

I'm pretty sure this is nonsense. -- Tavix (talk) 01:09, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • The article Numeronym lists tr8n as an abbreviation for translation. There also appears to be a piece of translation software with this name [9]. Uanfala (talk) 09:55, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, my search was dominated by the software, which is where I thought this originated from. -- Tavix (talk) 16:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete My searching indicates the most common use for this is for the software program. For someone trying to learn about it, this redirect is just in the way. I doubt the translation program is notable, but either way, this redirect needs to go. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Oiyarbepsy. It's not as prevalent as i18n and the software is probably the primary meaning. Deryck C. 16:52, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. What is "treightn"? Steel1943 (talk) 19:32, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete or Redirect to Geni.com. Do the latter only if will be mentioned in the article as one of their tools/programs. [10] There is also a mention of such a command in the Ruby programming. [11] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 01:16, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Acts of Mar Mari

Article's would-be content doesn't really have much affiliation with target article other than being compared in scholarly studies. I would like to recreate as an indepandant article per WP:RFD#DELETE#10 reason. JudeccaXIII (talk) 01:05, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

E13n

Delete as this seems like an obscure or novel way to abbreviate "externalization." -- Tavix (talk) 00:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_June_17&oldid=725924506"