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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cedar Run District

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Unnotable ~~event~~school district. The only sources I've found were only county-level; it doesn't seem to be known elsewhere. Flux55 (my talk page) 22:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. It's a school athletic division, not an event. RecycledPixels (talk) 01:14, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the article made it seem like it was a conference for some reason. I'll strike that out... Flux55 (my talk page) 01:26, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's not a school district, either. It's a high school athletic district/conference/division, under the Virginia High School League sanctioning organization. I looked through the talk archives over at WP:SCHOOL and consensus seems to have been that these are notable. So, Keep. RecycledPixels (talk) 07:34, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comments. Right now, there are zero sources on the page, which means I cant support a keep. If at least three reliable sources were added, then I could change my mind based on WP:HEY. Bearian (talk) 20:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Dhankundi. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dhankundi Shahnaj Siraj High School

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Declined prod. Fails WP:NSCHOOL only a primary source provided. LibStar (talk) 23:54, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Dhankundi, the settlement where the school is located. That's what Rupples, who declined the PROD, suggested, and it's a good alternative to deletion. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Dhankundi. Obviously has importance to the community it serves. Other than its verified existence haven't found any significant coverage, so notability criteria not met for a separate article. Rupples (talk) 10:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Dhankundi Macbeejack ☎ 14:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as suggested. There's nothing to merge that is especially well-sourced. Bearian (talk) 18:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Larkrise Primary School

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Primary school without any credible claim to meeting notability requirements at WP:NORG; namely "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." AusLondonder (talk) 11:46, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete All the independant coverage I could find was either WP:ROTM or not significant about the school, not enough to help it meet WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL Shaws username . talk . 12:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Likely delete. There is coverage, largely in the Oxford Mail but I don't think it amounts to a GNG pass. Sewage spill incident [1], a teacher at the school was featured in The Guardian re Brexit [2], local report on an Ofsted inspection [3] and letters about homelessness [4]. Primary schools do not normally have their own article and I don't believe this to be an exception. The school's teachers look to have been taking some kind of sociopolitical stance which has been being picked up in the local press and elsewhere, but no real evaluation or criticism. Possible redirect to Donnington, Oxfordshire, but not advocating. Rupples (talk) 13:15, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - like all primary schools, has received the usual run-of-the-mill random coverage but nothing that would lead us all to imagine the school itself is notable. It might possibly be worth a one-line mention at Donnington, or more likely not. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:36, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per above, WP:MILL, and my own standards. Bearian (talk) 19:12, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. No new comments after two relistings so a third makes no sense. Editors interested in turning this article into a Redirect can bring up that possibility on the article talk page. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:09, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Center Place Restoration School

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Zero evidence this meets the notability requirements established at WP:ORGCRIT namely having achieved "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject." AusLondonder (talk) 11:13, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Independence, Missouri#Education. I couldn't find any independent reputable sources for it and all I could find were generic school review sites, not enough to help it meet WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL. Shaws username . talk . 12:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Found newspaper articles discussing the school from the Kansas City Star. I used Newspapers.com to find the relevant articles. There was a school merger, so the article may also cover the Oak Valley Country Day School. WhisperToMe (talk) 15:55, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:34, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hadley Learning Community

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Has had no secondary sources since creation, only sources I could find were trivial mentions in local media, certainly not significant coverage. Earlier AfD 16 years ago advanced arguments now rejected by the community regarding school notability. AusLondonder (talk) 10:48, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Available sourcing meets WP:GNG. It would be very rare for a secondary school in the UK not to. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to sources in the article or elsewhere? Because the article contains just one source potentially acceptable, however it is a run of the mill local media mention of a government inspection. AusLondonder (talk) 15:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm referring to sources that can be found with a search. AfD isn't only judged by sourcing already in the article. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well I'm not finding them. I'm seeing a lot of directory listings and government websites which do not contribute to satisfying notability requirements. Simply asserting that all schools or all schools in the UK are notable is repeating an argument that has been comprehensively rejected by the community and should therefore be disregarded. AusLondonder (talk) 17:28, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Two cursory searches (beyond a plain Google look) give evidence of notability, with sources available through 1) Google Scholar (11 results, including Engaging parents: why and how Technical Report, Shaping a New Educational Landscape: Exploring Possibilities for Education in the 21st Century and Business Development - A sure way to spell success. This last one has a £14.00 fee, too steep for me, but still, it exists!) and 2) through ProQuest, accessible by logging in first to Wikmedia Commons, then The Wikipedia Library Platform available to any registered editor whose account is six months old and has 500 edits. Once on the platform, scroll down to ProQuest, where you can access 184 ProQuest links to articles containing the search term "Hadley Learning Community" (in quotes); even if only 10% have significant coverage, GNG would be met easily. See: Synetrix provides ICT for Hadley Learning Community, Olympian dives in with stories to tell in children's book, and Pupils are filmed for Children in Need choir, Primary keeps 'good' rating, Children dress up for author's visit. Were it up to me, editors nominating articles for AfD would be required to conduct searches beyond Google. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:44, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Some additional sources from the local news, Shropshire Live:

Telford special school shortlisted for national award

Hadley primary school rated as "good"

Landmark Telford learning community hailed by Minister

New careers and enterprise hub opens at Hadley Learning Community

Education partnership will be a boost for Telford students and local economy

Glowing Ofsted report for Hadley Learning Community

HLC Primary success in Jaguar Challenge

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The result was redirect‎ to Moreno Valley Unified School District. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:44, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alessandro School

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Does not seem to meet WP:NSCHOOL. All I could find were schools that were similarly named (e.g. "Ramona-Alessandro"). There are no sources that are available. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 04:04, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Moreno Valley Unified School District. I couldn't find any independent reputable sources for it and all I could find were generic school review sites, not enough to help it meet WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL. Shaws username . talk . 13:40, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect over 8 years with no independent sources. Not sure if it meets NSCHOOL. --扱. し. 侍. (talk) 13:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:37, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

La Salle High School (Union Gap, Washington)

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Non-notable private high school. Has been tagged with citations needed template since 2012; all the sources are either not independent or not significant (e.g. database entries). I can find some news coverage of the school but all of it is routine daily reporting in the local paper, nothing that establishes this school as anything more than WP:MILL. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. But I'm just "weirdly annoyed" with the nomination. ;) Not going to work on the article at this point. EagleFan (talk) 21:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the nominator notes, it's actually got quite a bit of coverage in the Yakima Press-Herald, more than I expected actually. It's the only Roman Catholic high school in the diocese, which is somewhat unusual, and it's mentioned in a biography of Cardinal Francis George [5], because of the role he played in founding it.--Jahaza (talk) 04:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I see issues with the article (I tagged and ran away), but there's nothing wrong with the article that can't be fixed with regular editing. Bearian (talk) 15:39, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. ✗plicit 06:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mesivta Ohel Torah

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Not notable per WP:NSCHOOL, that is, per WP:ORG or WP:GNG. All I can find about it online is similar to what's here: passing mentions in articles about other things, and routine school listings. Proposed deletion last week was contested without comment by the article creator. Wikishovel (talk) 09:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep Bearing in mind that high schools used to (before February 2017) be considered inherently notable, I have added what I believe to be just enough coverage to get this school over the top. It is listed and mentioned in various independent sources, including U.S. News & World Report, and this mention might fit the definition of WP:SIGCOV. Note that the school goes by a few different names and spellings including Mesifta Ohel Torah, Yeshiva Ohel Torah and Yeshiva High School of Monsey. StonyBrook _babble 21:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@StonyBrook: thank you for all the work you put in on this, but although the sources you've added are reliable, they only provide passing mentions of the school. We need to find significant coverage of the school itself, per WP:GNG. Wikishovel (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hence, the weak part of my !vote, and why I linked the RfC in it. But the closers of that same discussion also found that it "[stopped] short of a rough consensus" on the question of whether to grant inherent notability status on secondary schools. They went on to say that if a normal-depth search fails to find any evidence that the school exists, the article on the school should be deleted without the need for a deeper search. While no one is saying that every school is inherently notable, I think we can agree that a) there are more than enough sources here which demonstrate that the school exists b) enough can be gleaned from these sources to write at least a stub article about it. In the U.S. News & World Report I found basic information such as the school's address, type, and enrollment; from other sources I found some basic history about the founders, names of head teachers and controversy about getting the dormitory approved by the local authorities. In my view, the above constitutes WP:SIGCOV in the strictest sense of the term. Contrast this with another school that I found which has a very similar name to this one, except that the source for it only provides an address, and nothing more. StonyBrook _babble 18:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, though a stub, it seems to have a good couple of reliable sources, even if they only mention it in passing, to the point of being reliable. I can do stuff! (talk) 03:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete run-of-the-mill school that fails to satisfy the criteria outlined in WP:ORGDEPTH. In a WP:BEFORE search, it did not yield significant coverage from reliable sources, except for some passing mentions, profile listings, and a few unreliable sources that are insufficient to establish notability. GSS ^💬 15:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Star Mississippi 21:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nurul Fikri Boarding School

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The boarding school existed, but it didn't satisfy WP:NORG. Searches show that the school existed, but nothing notable about the school has been shown. Some news articles that are cited in id-wiki showed how some students of this school survived a tsunami in Sunda Strait in 2018, but that didn't show any notability to the school. Other references in id-wiki showed the school won some awards but that didn't confer any notability. Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 11:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - There is not much to go on in the article. No sources, and apparent low enrollment. However there are books mentions. The only one I could track down to start with is [6], which talks about "Sekolah Islam' schools and cites this school as one of two examples (although there is a long note about why this school is a Sekolah Islam and not a pesentrans). It says, inter alia, Pesantren Ibnu Salam Nurul Fikri Boarding School [is] known for producing top students who ace the national exams and win trophies in national and international competitions (see Figure 6.2). Figure 6.2 shows a trophy cabinet but it is not clear if this is their cabinet or that of the other school visited. There is more about high quality teachers, it is run by school management, and has a non traditional currciulum. The book doesn't say how big the school is, but I would put this down as one reliable secondary source that appears independent of the subject. We need multiple for GNG, but despite the parlous state of the page, I don't think this is a clear delete. I'll keep looking. Also please note the name used in this book "Ibnu Salam Nurul Fikri" would be an alternative and search with or without "boarding". Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Another ref:

Salmon, Yoseph; Saefudin, Didin; Mujahidin, Endin; Husaini, Adian (8 February 2024). "Pengembangan Kurikulum Sekolah Islam Terpadu Tingkat SMP di Pondok Pesantren (Studi Lapangan pada Pesantren Ibnu Salam Nurul Fikri Boarding School Serang Banten)". Jurnal Global Ilmiah. 1 (6): 321–324. doi:10.55324/jgi.v1i6.50.

This one is about "Development of the Integrated Islamic School Curriculum at the Junior High School at the Islamic Boarding School (Field Study at the Ibnu Salam Nurul Fikri Boarding School Serang Banten Islamic Boarding School)". There are a lot of these, in fact. Scholar shows at least 10 such references I could post. It seems that a lot of people are looking at this school as an exemplar of islamic boarding schools and curricula. But there is also a question of whether there is some kind of promotion for this, and I note that few of the papers have any citations at all, and some are just preprints. Writing a paper is one thing, but not all papers are born equal. The school website tells me they have nearly 1000 pupils, and they also have a large staff. The various papers speak highly of the school, and even taking into account my caution regarding lack of citations of these, their own alumni pages and other pages seem to bear this out. If I was better versed in the culture and background I might have a stronger view, but on the basis of the evidence here, it is a large school, open for 25 years, studied in academic papers, mentioned in books and newspaper reports. It looks like a keep to me. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 16:39, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. In contrast to the paucity of material on many schools put up in AfD this one does have coverage enough to satisfy the GNG. It seems to have been used as a model for research. ~~Another paper is here [7] (assuming it's this school) same name but identifies only the province, not an exact location.~~ Another here: [8]. Further coverage:[9] and here.[10] Rupples (talk) 18:01, 24 February 2024 (UTC) Re strike through: having read through this paper, I don't think it's of a standard to contribute to notability.Rupples (talk) 21:24, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:48, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SMA Negeri 1 Purwakarta

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The school existed, but a search on Google didn't show any notability that will pass WP:NORG. A search showed school's social media, a single news article about the problem in the school's admission system, but none showed any notability. Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 11:28, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ based on the number of research papers featuring the school shown in Google Scholar. They would together with coverage such as this, this, this and this likely amount to a GNG pass. Rupples (talk) 17:20, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I've taken a closer look at some of the Google Scholar reports and I can't see anything of note with which to develop the article. Google Scholar has research reports for each of the 3 schools at this level in Purwakata. The one's I've looked at for this school are not helpful in establishing notability, and as there is no evidence of notability in the Indonesian wikipedia article on this school, I've struck my keep above. Rupples (talk) 20:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SMA Negeri 1 Yogyakarta

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The school existed, but it didn't satisfy WP:GNG. Google search showed the school in passing, notably that it is one of the best-performing school in the province; but I didn't think it satisfy notability. Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 04:20, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Only found the one web search source with significant coverage. There's mentions or more in quite a few Google books but unable to translate so cannot confirm whether they amount to much. The Indonesian Wikipedia lists many notable alumni, which to me indicates the school is notable. Added a couple of confirmed notable alumni who have articles on the English Wikipedia. The school has been going in its present incarnation since 1957 and traces its roots further back. It seems to be recognised as a top Indonesian public school. The school features in a number of research papers in Google Scholar so I believe there's sufficient coverage to pass the GNG.[11] Rupples (talk) 18:15, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Wirobrajan. Anything that the school has can be merged there. Keep, sources should be enough to satisfy GNG. ''Flux55'' (talk) 20:36, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Based on the Indonesian Wikipedia article it definitely seems like this is a notable school, just not one which happens to have a lot of sources available in English.— Moriwen (talk) 02:00, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was merge‎ to Haeundae District#Education. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:00, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haeundae Tourism High School

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This article is unreferenced, the current references are dead, and I could find no significant Coverage myself. I believe it would fail WP:SIGCOV and fails to meet the standards set in WP:NSCHOOL and WP:GNG 1keyhole (talk) 23:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. [12][13] (Busan Ilbo) [14] (The Hankyoreh)[15][16] toobigtokale (talk) 11:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge a properly sourced summary to Haeundae District#Education, using the above sources. Source do not show SIRS, except for one they are mill news. The target is under developed and this material will benefit the target and improve visibility of the content. // Timothy :: talk 04:08, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I switch my vote; merge per this rationale. toobigtokale (talk) 07:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roosevelt College Quirino

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Fails WP:GNG and does not indicate claim of notability. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 11:14, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I can't find good sources. GBooks and GNews Archives just produced one passing mention --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Bear in mind the change of name from "Roosevelt Memorial High School". There appear to be more mentions under that name, although I haven't yet found more than passing mentions. Still plenty to look through though. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:23, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unreferenced and fails WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 22:46, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete One of its faculty was co-author on a text book, mentioned on the back cover, but I couldn't find anything more than directories other than that, under either name. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:54, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Santa Cruz, Manila#Education. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doña Teodora Alonzo High School

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Prod due to WP:NSCHOOL issues was contested hence putting it up for AfD. Alternatively, redirect to Santa_Cruz,_Manila#Education. --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Worth pointing out that the article history shows removal of uncited content that gave a potted history of the school, and thus the article has been reduced to an infobox and single sentence, previously uncited. Respect to the nominator for suggesting an AtD in the nomination. Rupples (talk) 03:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sources. School visited by reporter and featured on TV network GMA news programme "Unang Balita" re COVID face masks [17] (6 minute video); Philippine Daily Inquirer report on 2007 school fire [18]. Despite extensive searching that's all I've found other than mentions. Not enough coverage to pass the GNG so redirect to Santa Cruz, Manila#Education. Rupples (talk) 04:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 23:19, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Santa Cruz, Manila#Education per Rupples. Doesn't pass GNG but that page would be a good location to say something about this and other schools there. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 23:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Santa_Cruz,_Manila#Education. Agree with the others regarding WP:NSCHOOL, but I do think we should point this to the place in our encyclopedia where we do cover the school. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 05:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:52, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

McAdam High School

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Fails to the critea layout in WP:GNG and also in WP:NSCHOOL has been with notability template since march 2021 also fails to meet WP:SIGCOV 1keyhole (talk) 15:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete no significant coverage to meet WP:ORGCRIT or WP:GNG Shaws username (talk) 16:36, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep on the basis of the sources added by Grand'mere Eugene Shaws username . talk . 00:19, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Available sourcing sufficient to meet WP:GNG, as with pretty much any other secondary school in the western world. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, quick question, Why is this particular school notable and how does it meet WP:GNG? 1keyhole (talk) 16:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

● Delete - No Reliable Sources Found. 😎😎PaulGamerBoy360😎😎 (talk) 15:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I found significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable sources on ProQuest, and included quotes from the sources behind paywalls. I have not yet tracked down the exact time frame of the school's alternative title, McAdam Composite High School, but so far I found that name in use from the early 1950s through about 1984. At any rate, this tiny school does meet GNG. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 00:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Would be great if deletionists would make a cursory effort to find sources before nominating. There's plenty here. — Chris Capoccia 💬 13:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't a vote you have to actually state reasons why you believe this article meets the requirements. 1keyhole (talk) 23:06, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"there's plenty here" is an argument. Nominating something for deletion without doing any cursory search for sources is just lazy and wasting people's time. — Chris Capoccia 💬 23:16, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did make an effort and I stand by submitting this article for deletion. I think an experienced administrator will review the references and agree that most of these references are trivial and some are passing mentions. 1keyhole (talk) 23:47, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is a high school in Canada that has been around awhile. Not surprisingly there turn out to be plenty of sources. 1keyhole, it's not the state of the article that determines if it is notable and should be kept, it's whether sources WP:NEXIST. — Grand'mere Eugene has done a great job of demonstrating that they do. 1keyhole, a quick Google search is often insufficient, especially with subjects that are old enough to predate the internet that have had some name changes. Sources do not have to be online, and even when they are online, they are often out of reach of the search engine. A good WP:BEFORE investigation can be hard, but not doing it thoroughly can waste a lot of time for a lot of people. Jacona (talk) 22:51, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It seems high schools in Canada almost always turn out to be notable because sources exist whether or not they've been added in the article. This article had been short of them, but hey!, they are in it now. A thorough before could have saved us all some time here. This article has the sustained significant coverage to pass WP:GNG and therefore should be kept. Jacona (talk) 22:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per the recent WP:HEY effort. Scorpions1325 (talk) 06:59, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 07:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rayongwittayakhompaknam School

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Subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. A Google failed to yield sufficient in-depth coverage from reliable secondary sources to establish encyclopedic notability. Additionally, the article is completely unsourced, thus failing WP:V and has been tagged for more than ten years w/o any significant improvement. Article was previous tagged for Prod (2014) but tag was removed. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Note that searches are complicated here by the language conventions in naming which mean the name of the school on this page is wrong. This should be "Wittayakom Paknam school" located in Rayong, or perhaps with alternate English orthography of "Wittayakhom paknam school". That still doesn't turn up much. "Wittayakom school" gets a few more including a couple of book mentions, but at this stage I am not sure if that is the same school. Noting this information now for the sake of anyone else conducting searches. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:45, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So "Wittayakom" is a type of (senior) school it seems. The name of this school is "Paknam school" in Rayong, also rendered "Pak nam" school. Under that name I find a lot more information. E.g. Google: [19]. I'll have to do some reading now. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 10:09, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You've got it the wrong way round; Thai language places modifiers after nouns, so you have to translate terms in reverse of the English order. "Rayongwittayakom Paknam" is the name of the school. It's a daughter school in Paknam of Rayongwittayakom School, hence the name. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I got that far, but Rayong is the place, and isn't wittayakom the type of school? But useful information that is is the daughter school of another with a page. I'll modify to merge on that basis. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Witthayakhom (and spelling variants) is just a common suffix that's sometimes combined with the province name to form the name of the province's main government school; it doesn't carry any actual meaning by itself. Each province will usually have one or two government secondary schools recognised as the main school for that province; these schools often (but don't always) have the province name in their names. See below regarding the merge suggestion though. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That's helpful. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:24, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete but I will happily move to redirect if a target can be found. ~~(ETA: Merge to Rayongwittayakom School)~~(ETA2 - new comment below). I have reviewed all the sources I can turn up. Wat Paknam school is a different school, but I think I searched thoroughly through all English language sources of Wittayakom Paknam school, searching all references to Paknam and Pak nam school. There are book mentions, and a few news paper mentions. Book mentions are directories, the newspaper mentions incidental (e.g. an Elephant race started at the school, but doesn't seem to have had anything to do with the school). In a pollution incident, 140 students at another school were moved to this school temporarily, and in this thesis paper[20], students from the school were studied. Schools are not inherently notable, and this is not enough to pass GNG. One major caveat is that I speak no Thai, and there may be more sources in Thai. If SIGCOV can be demonstrated with Thai sources, it would be a keep, but as things stand we have no evidence of SIGCOV, and certainly not in the article. If there is a page about Rayong schools, it could be redirected there. It could also redirect to Rayong, although that page currently says nothing about education. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:50, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Updating to merge. As above, this is the daughter school of another in Rayong. They would sensibly be treated together, especially given the lack of sources for this daughter school. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really think merging would be desirable. "Daughter school" here mostly just means that staff from the original school gave some assistance in the establishment of the school. Sometimes schools are named as daughters of more famous schools just for marketing purposes. In reality they're completely independent schools with unrelated operations. Between deletion and merging to the other school, I'd prefer to delete. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks. Rather than chopping and changing, I'll let this sit a couple of days to see if there are any more views or any better sources. Or, indeed, any better redirect targets. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: There are considerable Thai-language mentions in student football news, mostly match reports.[21][22][23][24][25][26][27] Quite a few passing mentions from organizations hosting the school's students for various activities.[28][29][30] Not much in terms of independent in-depth coverage though. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:44, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I meant to come back to this sooner, sorry. Having considered Paul 012's insights, I agree that merge may not be the best in this context. There is primary sourcing on the school but not secondary sourcing. As such it does no pass WP:GNG. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:26, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:35, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beaulieu College

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No indication of any notability given, none found with a google - appears to just be just another run-of-the-mill school. KylieTastic (talk) 19:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSCHOOL. I was unable to find any information online about this college. 🛧Midori No Sora♪🛪 ( ☁＝☁＝✈) 01:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Unreferenced and fails WP:NSCHOOL. LibStar (talk) 05:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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St. Michael Technical School, Surakarta

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The school existed, but the school didn't pass WP:NORG. There are some news articles concerning the school - their students won some competitions but that does not confer automatic notability, especially as the competition is not notable as well. None of the search results showed any coverage about the school in depth. Thank you. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 02:22, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG and no source provided ever since creation. Also per nominator, passing reference is not a point for qualifying WP:V. CSMention269 (talk) 03:28, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, were these search results in English or the local language? Cardofk (talk) 09:31, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aichi Shukutoku Junior College

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Not meeting notability standards. See WP:NOTABILITY and WP:NEXIST. Avishai11 (talk) 19:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep I'm not seeing much evidence of a WP:BEFORE search here, let alone a WP:NOENG one. This is a college which existed for 40 years, much of it pre-dating the internet's prevalence but the sources provided in the Japanese article are enough for verification and, before we delete, a comprehensive search of offline sources in Japan should be done. DCsansei (talk) 17:30, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NCORP, particularly WP:NSCHOOL. No indication of significance. The fact that it has existed for 40 years is neither here nor there. The length of existance is not a notability criteria. scope_creep^Talk 18:09, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. My Japanese is not good, but I'm able to find some scholarly works on the college, such as A Survey on Consciousness about Health, Physical Fitness and Exercise at Aichi Shukutoku Junior College, and it appears to have some connection with an extant university (Aichi Shukutoku University). I think that sufficient sourcing is likely to exist that could expand the article on the Junior College and, barring that, it would be better to merge the page to that on the University than deleting it altogether. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 23:12, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Aichi Shukutoku University – i see a few things in Japanese sources but doesn't fully satisfy WP:NSCHOOL. Password ^{(talk)(contribs)} 02:25, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Aichi Shukutoku University. The subject can be verified but not detailed. BusterD (talk) 19:40, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect‎ to Chittoor#Education. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:13, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P. V. K. N. Government College

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This doesn't appear to meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 22:52, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Chittoor#Education where the college is listed and where a bit more detail could be added. Haven't found sufficient sourcing to pass the GNG/NORG. Rupples (talk) 05:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep , it's a stub article right now but more sources definitely are needed. 🐲 Jo the fire dragon 🐉(talk|contributions) 09:54, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Chittoor#Education. Not enough sourcing for a stand alone article, fails GNG and NORG, (a dead link, a mill news story, a name mention). This is enough for a merge, if future sourcing develops it can be split. // Timothy :: talk 04:29, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cedar Run District

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Center Place Restoration School

Hadley Learning Community

Alessandro School

La Salle High School (Union Gap, Washington)

Mesivta Ohel Torah

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