Talk:Popeye

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Split proposal[edit]

This article has gotten rather long and hard to read. I suggest splitting out the section on the theatrical cartoons into its own article, titled Popeye the Sailor (theatrical cartoons), Popeye the Sailor (Paramount cartoons) or something similar, leaving a shortened summary of the history of the Fleischer/Famous cartoons. That way, this article could focus more on Popeye as a franchise and on the original comic strip version. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 17:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Comment There is already an article on the Popeye theatrical cartoons titled Popeye the Sailor (Warner DVD series) about the home video releases. Could this be the starting point? Steelbeard1 (talk) 20:20, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
There are relevant points in there, but I'd say to split theatrical cartoons off entirely into a single new article for now, and summarize the information in the current article. Keeping it all as one continuous article allows one to talk about transitioning between studios, that sort of thing. -- Zanimum (talk) 19:09, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Theme song sung by?[edit]

Was the original theme sung by William "Billy" Costello? --grin 07:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

It was when he was playing the role of Popeye. Later, when the other guy took over, he sang the song. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Why was my edit reverted?[edit]

Hi. I made a spelling correction on this page yesterday. I don't understand why it has been reverted to the incorrect spelling. 82.2.26.223 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.26.223 (talk) 18:12, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Association with spinach[edit]

When does Popeye become associated with spinach? There is no spinach in his first appearance in Thimble Theater in 1929. In his first film apparance, Fleischer's "Popeye the Sailor" (1933), he downs a can of spinach with the customary result. Did this device originate in Thimble Theater, or was it a film gag? Mohanchous (talk) 13:45, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Frank "Rocky" Fiegel[edit]

I've replaced the vague statement beginning "One historian believes Popeye was inspired by Frank 'Rocky' Fiegel" and its "source" (merely a bare GIF image with no information whatsoever) with a statement based on material from the already-cited Grandinetti book (page 4). If someone wants to try to pursue the previous info, I did manage to dig up a somewhat-garbled document in the Internet Archives (not their Wayback Machine, but an actual book-like work) titled I Remember: Early Memories of Chester, Illinois. Its author is Jessie Lee Huffstutler, who may be the "Lee Huffstutler" mentioned in Grandinetti. (I'm not sure an IA copy of a personal memoir would be acceptable under WP:RELY. Even if it were, I doubt such a publication qualifies Huffstutler as a "historian", anymore than uploading a personal webcam video to YouTube makes one a cinematographer.) As for the GIF, it comes from The Glyph, a website for the Great Lakes NCS Newsletter, and has a URL including "segar" and "rocky"—suggestive, but far from useful for sourcing. However, a search of the website might turn up something useful about the picture that might make it worth mentioning.

Meanwhile, I'd ask editors to review WP:RELY to understand what Wikipedia means by "reliable source" and "citation". In particular, it should be specific and should include information that backs up what is said in the article where the citation is placed. A picture is merely illustration, not evidence, and a pic with no information is worse than useless because it implies something that isn't stated anywhere (e.g., this person is the infamous Rocky). We need a source to say that, not just imply it by association. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:13, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Italicizationing[edit]

Is there any way to remove the italics from the page title? The page is foremost on the "Popeye" character, while also combining in information about the Popeye franchise and comic strip. The use of the comic strip template seems to be italicizing the title, but there has to be some sort of override somehow.--108.196.25.194 (talk) 21:32, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I have added the parameter |italic title=no to the infobox, which removed the italics from the article title, as the infobox template's page (Template:Infobox comic strip) said it would. Regards, —{|Retro00064|☎talk|✍contribs|} 23:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC).

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Wimpy[edit]

I am removing the "hence the name" part that implies that Wimpy is called Wimpy because he is wimpy. The word wimpy is believed to have appeared in the English language with its current meaning long after J Wellington Wimpy first existed. The origin of wimp is uncertain, but sources such as the Online Etymology Dictionary say "perhaps influenced by J. Wellington Wimpy." In other words, it's more likely that wimps are called wimps because are like Wimpy (and they whimper) rather than the character being named after a word that was not yet in use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hagrinas (talkcontribs) 01:30, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Top Importance?[edit]

There's a discussion on which comic-related articles should be listed as "Top Importance" on the importance scale, and I feel this article should not be included. If any user disagrees or wishes to contribute, please do so there. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:49, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Splitting article[edit]

I think there is enough comic strip specific information to make it worth spinning off into an article titled either Thimble Theatre or Popeye (comic strip), leaving this article to be just about the character himself. 24.149.45.52 (talk) 23:11, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Time Travel ?[edit]

In the section "Television specials and feature-length films", there is the line: "Popeye (2015, produced by Columbia Pictures and Sony Pictures Animation). As it is now only halfway though 2014, is this a mistake, a prediction, a plan, or a time-travelled entry from next year ? Darkman101 (talk) 22:33, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

I wanna time travel Popeye series Ultbee (talk) 13:41, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

More images please[edit]

One of each cartoon studio, (Fletcher, King, Hanna-Barbera, etc.), with other stars together, and explaining the two Olivia faces and the because of the two stories styles of King Syndicate cartoons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.103.68.194 (talk) 21:34, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Little adjustments. Possible movement of some infos to a totally new "Thimble Theatre" entry[edit]

Hi, boys! I'm writing from Italy so please forgive my very bad English. Sorry, I think that the page "Popeye" is ambiguous: it talks about Popeye but in the box it presents the starting year 1919 as if the entry is about the strip and not the character. Now, I am an expert in Italy about comics (I made two books about Donald Duck and I'm a collector of Thimble Theatre strips from 1920s): I want to make an Italian page *only* about Thimble Theatre comic strip from 1919 on: The Segar Years (1919-1938), The Zaboly Years (1940-1959) and so on, with descriptions of various characters and infos about plots on Thimble Theatre strips and Sundays before Popeye above all. Now, my Italian page can be translated in English by one of you. Let me know! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Federico G. Provenzano (talkcontribs) 21:30, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

What story?[edit]

From what story is the pic on this article, please:

--212.95.7.205 (talk) 19:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm Trying to Find Info On a Particular Popeye Short[edit]

I am trying to get the title of a particular Popeye short. Here's the story of it:

In this short, Popeye's nephews are trying to hide a big box and throughout the short, Popeye unsuccessfully tries to stop them, but near the end, Popeye gets really mad and attempts to give his nephews a whipping, when the box drops onto the ground from the roof, opens and it's a giant can of spinach saying "Happy Birthday, Uncle Popeye" on top.

Does anyone know the name of this particular short? Thanks in advance for any help.Frschoonover (talk) 16:08, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

I am not a Popeye expert, though this could be "Popeye's Mirthday" (1953). Based on the Internet Movie Database summary, Olive Oyl is preparing a birthday party for Popeye and the nephews try to keep Popeye preoccupied until she is ready. They end up tormenting him until its time for the surprise. Dimadick (talk) 16:13, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

No, it's not Popeye's Mirthday, but Gift of Gag from 1955. It is also a color short and was released two years later. I AM REALLY THE MAN IN NYS (talk) 22:16, 27 April 2017 (UTC)