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Well. I'm back bitches! Someone hacked my account after 7 years editing. It was just my time I guess. Here we go again! I've got a lot of edits ready for contribution! and they're off! Maineartists (talk) 22:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back[edit]

A belated welcome back to Wikipedia. Clearly you know what you're doing, so I won't give you the Wiki for Dummies stuff. Hope you stick around this time.

For full disclosure, I would suggest that you post your former username on your user page. If it's compromised, like you mentioned, we should probably get it blocked if it isn't already, just to be sure.

Thanks, Oiyarbepsy (talk) 04:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

  • Hi, Oiyarbepsy! Thanks for your kind welcome back. I was discouraged there for a while but I gathered the troops and got back on the horse as they say.

Thank you for recommending that I disclose my former username but I'm almost 100% sure that it has been blocked already as I went through a rigorous ordeal for weeks afterwards. I type it in on occasion just to be sure it has never come up since. I don't know if it was a fluke during the time when a bunch of other users were hacked or if I may have upset someone on here. Either way I'd like not to associate my new username with the old. Just to be safe.

Peace! Maineartists (talk) 02:43, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Lois Wright article[edit]

Hi, thank you for your kind words. And thank you for all your work on that article. Creating a new article is no easy task, and you've done a beautiful job. A few responses to what you wrote on my page:

  • "central character in the lives of the Beales at Grey Gardens" still seems overly wordy and vague. Would "close friend" or "caretaker" be appropriate? How is this relationship described in the articles cited?
  • I changed "hosts her own local cable show" to "hosts a television show", as LTV is described as "East Hampton LTV cable access". If LTV is described once, I didn't see a need to repeat the description in the show.
  • "The Old West" versus "American frontier" – I changed this because there's an article about the American frontier to which Old West redirects, but I'll change it back if the 2 aren't actually equivalent.

Additional thoughts:

  • External links: Internet Movie Database is not considered reliable (WP:CITINGIMDB), and some of these links aren't specific to the subject of the article. Is there a reason we should keep them?
  • Infobox: Is the AAEH link in the infobox an official website? IMDb lists "" as her official site, and that is not linked in the article at all.

WikkanWitch (talk) 14:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

  • Dear WikkanWitch. Oh, you are wonderful! Yes, "close friend" would be perfect, as all articles, books, magazines, and related coverage support this claim since her mother and "Big Edie" were long life friends, and Lois knew them since she was a teenager. (would you mind changing this?) Brilliant regarding the LTV sentence, and as well with the American Frontier, once I clicked on it, I saw immediately your genius in linking the two.
  • Regarding the additional thought: absolutely. I just see linked on so many others that I just assume it normal external. Please remove. You are right. 100% as well with the AAEH. Absolutely. I'm so glad there are amazing Wiki editors like you to correct all the errors of contributors like me. Thanks so much!

maineartists (talk) 12:24, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Absolutely incredible! Your edits and additions are simply marvelous. Thank you so much for cleaning up this article. I'm so happy that you were there to help. I love what you have brought it up to be in such a short time. Just a quick question: did you mean this grammatical sentence change:

"Wright is shown to be a close friend the Beales at Grey Gardens"

It seems as though there is a word missing. It may just be me. Again. Thank you so much.

maineartists (talk) 09:12, 02 October 2014 (UTC)

Good eye! I just fixed that. For small copyedits, always feel free to edit the article directly without consulting the other editors. Also I guess we should probably be using the article's Talk page instead of this one! But I think we accomplished something good here!

WikkanWitch (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Harry Warren[edit]

Hi. Thanks for the discussion there. Do you know of any of Warren's songs that do not have their own articles but really ought to? If you can find any good sources that say that the songs are of particular interest, importance or popularity, I would be happy to help you write an article about them. Let me know on my talk page if/when you want to get started on one. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

You know much more about Warren than I do, so I heartily approve your list of songs. When you begin working on the articles, let me know, and I will be happy to help out by proofreading, helping with formatting, etc. If you have not started a new article before, one way to do it is to copy all the formatting for an existing article like this one into a new article, and then keep the structure, but replace all the information with the new information about the new topic. As for adding something about the piano vignettes, yes, absolutely! Just make sure that you cite a published source for the information. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:49, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Were the vignettes all released at once on one album? What year? Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi! Ssilvers The first LP was released in 1975 on Antilles - not Four Jays - with pianist Hugh Delain and included titles that were not recorded by Warren later released in 1990 (cassette) and then again in 2006 and 2008 on CD with entirely different titles. It is unclear when he wrote them all since by 1975 there were only 12 recorded; then by 1990 we have the rest (without the 1975 titles) recorded by Warren himself, which suggest he wrote them continuously throughout his lifetime - before and after the 1960s. See: Unfortunately, there just isn't enough Copyright material or Biographical resources enough to really pinpoint these pieces. I think we may need to reword the edited contribution as it stands now. Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 4:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, I took a stab at it. See if I've got it right now. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Nailed it! Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 5:09, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
For starting Lois Wright and thus helping ensure Wikipedia covers Grey Gardens properly.

You can always take this barnstar off and use it as a cape. I think this is the best costume for today.

Tom Morris (talk) 14:31, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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Lydia Cornell[edit]

Leave dead links, flag them with template:dead link See wp:KDL (Keep dead links) Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 03:40, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Jim1138 Thank you for your suggestion. I would have appreciated the suggestion with a bit of time to comply with your request before your revert; or perhaps even your own assistance in reinstating the few removed dead links with the assigned templates. Since the time involved correcting the grammatical errors and checking the links was extensive. Perhaps next time a little leeway and understanding would be more helpful rather than a drive by revert. Still, I appreciate the direction. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 04:23, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I appreciate your willingness to follow through. I primarily do wp:RCP. I see a number editing issues. I tried making requests to the editors to fix their edits and made notes the event. Later checking back, I found that the vast majority (80%+) did not reply nor make any changes. So, I rather gave up on that. I usually just revert with an edit summary. I tell people if they ask or complain that they can always undo my edit through the wp:page history. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 09:10, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks Jim1138 for your candidness and honesty. I appreciate that. I do follow through however and will devote my time in learning how to better edit through my mistakes. I believe in the grammatical issues with this article and will apply the dead link template where needed upon going back in. Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 12:47, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
I came here to comment on the same edits. I'll only add that that first edit changed content substantially - enough to make the edit-summary seem a misrepresentation. Especially with biographical information, it is important to identify large deletions and additions of content. --Ronz (talk) 17:41, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Ronz I see (and understand) that now. I should have addressed those issues on the talk page first and listed all discrepancies with the sources and inline quotes first before removing poorly reported biographical information. My apologies. Once again, it always serves as a penny saved (penny earned) when a well knowledged editor drives by and assists a "still-learning" editor with words of wisdom. Thanks! That being said, those references have issues. I hope to improve them. Best, Maineartists (talk) 02:43, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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The source of the photo states that they were performing Haydn's Toy Symphony and that is why I added it to that article. Please see the Strand Magazine of November 1897

Part of an article published in 1897 about a group of musicians performing the Toy Symphony

GinnevraDubois (talk) 02:23, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

GinnevraDubois The article is incorrect. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] The instruments shown are not those in the "Haydn" version, but in the Romberg. Famous sketch: [6] Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 02:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Recent edit to Rip Taylor[edit]

Information icon Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Rip Taylor, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! Materialscientist (talk) 08:14, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Materialscientist Thank you for your "template message". I assume that your removal was done in haste as a drive-by edit. Please refer to the talk page discussion that references 3 cited sources for inclusion here: Spouse of Rip Taylor. Please choose one of these (or all three) that you deem reliable, and reinstate the inclusion; since I am new to Wikipedia and obviously still need help in the simplicity of providing inline citations. Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)


For the cupcake! Eagleash (talk) 00:31, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

December 2016[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Maineartists", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it seems to be that of a group. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 19:46, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

331dot Thanks so much for pointing this out! Although I am far from "new" to WP, I understand the template. That being said: I actually never thought of it before and never had an issue with the name before your noticing. I appreciate the connection you have made with the plural. Ironic, since I am not an artist myself (although I wish I was!). My initial choice for the username was for my original use of WP, which was to create, edit and better resource article that relates to Maine within the Arts. However, my attention was diverted to other categories and interests, and the name no longer applies. I am reticent to change it and start over, since it has never posed a problem. However, if you think it appropriate, I certainly will heed your advice and look into the process. I welcome further comments and suggestions. Best. Maineartists (talk) 00:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. Since you state the name is not that of an actual group, it probably is not terribly problematic. The only issue then would be that the plural suggests shared usage- which you clearly state is not the case in actuality. You probably don't need to immediately change your name given this statement, though I might think about doing so in the future. I assure you I will not speak any more of this; just something to keep in mind. Best wishes to you. 331dot (talk) 00:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
@331dot:Thank you. I seriously never gave it a second thought, but honestly: now that you have brought it to my attention I should have seen it far long before I chose it for a username! (Good eye!) How foolish of me! again, I thank you for pointing this out. If another editor at WP should bring this to my attention, I will change it without a second thought. Best. Maineartists (talk) 01:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
  • On a separate note: I see that you have contributed several articles relating to the state of Maine. Thank you! Maineartists (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Help desk.[edit]

Thanks for answering me at the help desk.Thanks for your opinion. You used the perfect word, exhausting. That's how I felt trying to make the a single edit to remove the screenshot/image. I will probably not bother anymore with trying to remove the screenshot. It's too tiring, I also don't stay on Wikipedia all day long like some others do. I know if I remove it, it will be added back, and I don't want to edit war or be dragged to an even longer discussion board for just removing a screenshot. It's reasons like the simple edit I wanted to make, that make me not want to edit Wikipedia. 2601:483:100:CB54:2921:709C:47A2:195E (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

I can hear (and understand) your frustration. I honestly believe that the article in question does not display WP at its best. In these situations, to save your sanity, it sometimes is best to simply step back - or even walk away - and hope that an admin or a stronger-willed editor will step in and do what is right to better the article. Best. Maineartists (talk) 01:05, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Mike Leeson - categorization[edit]

Hello Maineartists, based on the recent help desk discussion I have nominated the category Category:Songs written by Michael J. Leeson at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 December 27. Any additional input and background information for this discussion would be appreciated. Best regards. GermanJoe (talk) 17:50, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

@GermanJoe: Great! I will head on over! Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 17:32, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Patricia Elliott / Dana Ivey[edit]

I don't understand how to use Wikipedia or edit an article. I tried to add info about Patricia Elliott in her bio. We went to LAMDA together in 1963-64. There is no outside reference, only my personal experience of being in class with her for that year and being a friend of hers. I have had an account to sign into with Wikipedia for many, many years, but I d not try to edit any more because it is so complicated. I am not a newcomer and this is not a new account for me. I have received several "Welcomes", which are unwarranted. I am Dana Ivey who was in Sunday in the Park, yes. Patricia was a friend o mine. Her Early Life bio does not mention LAMDA> I thought I was trying to help out but it is too complicated., and not worth it to continue.

Thank you, Maineartists. It took me 5 minutes to find out how to write you again. Wikipedia is SO complicated. I don't understand the "talk" page or how to use it. Thank you for fixing Patricia's bio. Now I wonder if you could fix my Broadway credits section, which doesn't list Present laughter (1983), Heartbreak House (1984)Dariv (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC), Marriage of Figaro (1985) or Importance of Being Earnest (2011). And actually my first screen appearance was in "Explorers." The 2011 "film" version of Importance of Being Earnest, was not technically a film -- it was a taping for a closed sort of Broadway View showing and hasn't been seen since. So it shouldn't be listed under film.Dariv (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC). Oh, please, how do I reach you again more easily?I don't understand "talk " and "edit" and am not sure what I clicked on to open this window.Dariv (talk) 01:02, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

  • @Dariv: No worries. I've moved our conversation to my User Talk Page here. However, I am going to re-direct you to your own subject article on Wikipedia and start a New Section on your TALK PAGE here: (click on this link) Talk Page Dana Ivey. Please see: "DANA IVEY REQUESTS"

All you need to do is follow these instructions:

  • 1) Click the blue highlighted "edit" next to the Title: "Dana Ivey Requests" section.
  • 2) Type in what concerns you have on your page (below existing text).
  • 3) Sign your entries with 4 tildes: ~
  • 4) Hit "Save Changes" when you're done.

That's it. An editor for the page will assist in updating your page and gathering reliable sources. As for the above, I will get right on it! To reach me again, click "edit" on this section and simply type below. I will keep "pinging" you for notification. You can also click "WATCH THIS PAGE" for notifications, as well. (There is a "Watchlist" tab in the upper right hand corner that you can click on that will show you the pages in your Watch List) However, for now, I'd say keep a close eye on your TALK PAGE (which is on your article page -- next to the "ARTICLE" tab above your name to the left). Scroll down to find the section "DANA IVEY REQUESTS". Best. Maineartists (talk) 01:36, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Alexandre Mars ‎[edit]

I saw your note on the article talk page. I assume you also read the discussion on ANI that resulted in the sanction being imposed. There has been a long history of disruption by that paid editor. Toddst1 (talk) 21:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely. Read it all. You're both too close to this. The frustration is apparent and the language speaks volumes. I am not entering the ring for any other reason than to break the cycle and offer a fresh view point and sounding board. I actually do not plan to "edit" the article in any way but provide another voice of WP reason as to what is notable for inclusion and what is unnecessary filler for a subject that (honestly) is just barely squeaking by for WP:N. My invitation is to keep her out in the open and honest; and more importantly: working with WP rather than against (judging from her history). Honey / vinegar scenario. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 21:46, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
MelanieN I do know the backstory and have read all necessary history involving this editor. I'm coming in as a fresh set of eyes only. Maineartists (talk) 03:23, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Template:Nazism sidebar[edit]

Because of a multiplicity of new options, I've withdrawn the RfC you participated in and replaced it with this one Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Help desk volunteering[edit]

Instead of doing a drive-by, would you prefer I stop answering questions on the Help Desk altogether? †dismas†|(talk) 21:42, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry ... was that really an answer to the question? That's like when someone stops you for directions, and although you know the address, you say: "There's a corner store that sells maps." Maineartists (talk) 00:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it was. It directly addressed his concerns about turning bare URLs into "viable references". And I notice you never left the message on his talk page as you said you did.
I don't have a lot of time all the time to answer every question with an in depth answer. But I try to point people to at least something that addresses their concerns. †dismas†|(talk) 00:16, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Like I said I did? Please direct me as to where I said that ... in the meantime, let me direct you to this: Talk Kamar Baldwin where I invited the editor to see how to reference hands-on. Shall we keep doing this? Maineartists (talk) 00:26, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
I've already done so with my first comment. But no, we don't need to keep going. †dismas†|(talk) 20:55, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


Eh, "amendments"? I don't have to slow down--we have a bot that fixes those things. BTW, adding this kind of stuff only makes the article more promotional. Drmies (talk) 23:41, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

What is "this kind of stuff"? I never added that. I merely restored both links that were removed when you deleted the source but forgot to restore the <ref name> references throughout the rest of the article. You know, if you put in as much effort in "improving" as you do "proving", you'd actually be pleasant to be around. Maineartists (talk) 23:51, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
  • If you'd bothered to look at the actual edit history, you'd see that the reliable source that I provided for the film was moved from the filmography section and then replaced "this kind of stuff" that you have falsely accused me of contributing. Maineartists (talk) 00:00, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Abrasive Tone[edit]

Can you expand on your comments made towards me? It's clear you misunderstood my comment, but I don't understand or appreciate the abrasiveness shown in your responses. Thank you. nihlus kryik (talk) 05:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

If they were received as abrasive, please accept my apologies. Tone is sometimes lost in exchange at WP. But I wholeheartedly disagree with the excusing of said admin in this case - who now has been reduced to a simple editor - since when does the vast knowledge of adminship leave one's understanding while editing? "...should not be viewed as someone who's acting as an administrator, but as a fellow editor who has rewritten an article" More blame and responsibility was placed on the OP (a non-admin) in this thread than the admin themselves, who IMHO should have known better: "However, per WP:AGF, you should've assumed that he had a reason for doing so ..." (??? their Talk / page history would not confirm this statement) - " ... and initiate a discussion with him, at least to explain why you reverted him. I note that you still have not done that." Where was any of this on the part of the admin? I for one think the "editor" was indeed acting as an admin in that they thought they could do this without the need of 1) assuming good faith, 2) initiating contact, 3) which they still have not done. So my question is: for all the "you could have done more" directed toward the OP - where is the follow up with the admin who initiated all this? (yes, I know he was notified to the discussion, but he never joined) Last: telling another editor that "Anyone can remove info, edit info, or remove references as they see fit (making sure it aligns with Wikipedia policy) since no one owns the articles" IMHO is one of the most overused answers on WP today; especially when the OP never even said such a statement: "I am the original creator of the page, who posted it live to Wikipedia." WP keeps track of how many pages an editor has created, even admins are judged accordingly on this: why shouldn't they raise issue with this detail? Nelly GTFC created an article, the admin created a stub; deleted their article, and replaced their article with his stub. If I misunderstood your comment, I feel (and it's my own opinion) that you initially (along with user:swarm) misunderstood Nelly GTFC's. I still feel a reach out to Giant Snowman is in order here just as a follow up as to procedure and proper etiquette. The editor came to the admin board seeking help and justification; not a lecture and endless wiki-links to policy. The admin in question has a lengthy list of stub articles [7] to move: if another editor creates an article and posts live in the meantime: who is to say they won't do it again? Tone aside, these are my thoughts. In addition, I personally feel that Swarm closed out the discussion far too soon for any constructive resolution. IMHO. Maineartists (talk) 17:43, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Band name[edit]

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the Name of my band is THE CLAP formed in 1978 and still touring ! Johnnyshutup (talk) 01:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Awesome! Thanks! Let me do some research and I'll look into this! Thanks! Maineartists (talk) 01:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

"Helpful advice"[edit]

I've never noticed italics used sarcastically before. I hope they both understand. Maproom (talk) 18:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


Hi. You seem to be approaching wikilinking the hard way, at least on the Reference Desk. For example,

  • instead of typing [ Zoetrope], a shorter approach would be simply [[Zoetrope]].

Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 17:45, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I know. Every time I do that I smack my head and think: why didn't I just direct link? It's a hard habit to break, obviously. I may need to smack harder. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Kevin Langan[edit]

Hi, I'm Kudpung. Maineartists, thanks for creating Kevin Langan!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Please address the tagged issues

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:08, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง. It's a bit premature for you to place multiple tags on an article that has reliable sources and notable claims backed by WP requirements listed at WP:NMUSIC. You really should check yourself before placing such tags on an article that presents itself at the very least as a "stub" or "general notability"; without question qualifies as an article of submission and inclusion if you (as an editor at WP) could easily improve with a little bit of research and contribution. I reject your tags on principle and will remove them as such. Best, Maineartists (talk) 03:54, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
I had already passed this article as accepted. Nevertheless, if you can't create an article that is ready for publication, please consider creating it as a WP:Draft or in your user space first. Please note that Wikipedia editors or New Page Reviewers are not here to complete your articles for you if they are no so disposed. I have no hesitation in tagging articles for maintenance that do not meet our criteria. You are not aware however, that I had already also asked our opera specialist at here to check my opinion. Please also be sure to avoid using inapropriate edit summaries. Thank you.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Hello, User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] First of all: "our" is not a pretense that I adhere to ... meaning: I do not need to "prove" myself to "you". WP is a community ... I have never used the royal "we" and never will. I have no idea who Kudpung กุดผึ้ง is ... and I strongly believe that the WP community will support me when I say that the "requirements" for inclusion for notability were met for this subject for and beyond the cited sources. Do not school me in the procedure of how to "draft" an article for publication without reviewing my history. My "edit summary" was more an (sic) inapropriate. Maineartists (talk) 04:30, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
I always review users' history befor disussing anything with them; do you? I told you already that I had passed your article for inclusion. You are now leaving me with the opinion that a) you just like to complain, and b) you like having the last word. 'take a step back' and 'Move on' - please. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
Really? Then you would find that in all my history, that I take discussion to the Take Page first before ever instituting edits such as "Monday Morning Quarterback" edits; and allow other editors to administer rv through consensus. Your grammatical errors in spelling is clear enough that you are not "reviewing" such history; allowing you to hastily (WP timeline) respond without consciously presenting a defensible argument. Re: having the last word. That is a cliche for those who cannot defend themselves past a certain point of argument. Maineartists (talk) 05:11, 7 January 2018 (UTC)