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Archive 2011

Contents

January

Nomination for deletion of Template:Starfleet officer rank insignia/Text

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Starfleet officer rank insignia/Text has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Mhiji 13:08, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Mediation of Video games developed in Japan

The dispute about romanizations for katakana words of non-Japanese origin has now entered mediation and is currently being talked about in this discussion page section. If you still wish to participate, please join the discussion. Thank you. Prime Blue (talk) 14:09, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

February

Mursili's eclipse

cool article Decora (talk) 18:41, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

March

none

April

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Graphical content problem

Wikipedia:WikiProject Graphical content problem, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Graphical content problem (2nd nomination) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject Graphical content problem during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Kleinzach 23:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Air TV DVD Vol 01.png

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May

Time template

Hi White Cat,

If you're still around, could you take a look at Template talk:Time#Change use? Regards,
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 15:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Old subpage

I was wondering if you would please request deletion of this subpage User:White Cat/RFAR/graph in your user space? The page should now be deleted, as you no longer require this information. --Diannaa (Talk) 15:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Well it turns out this page links to several other areas of the wiki so I am withdrawing my request that you ask for its deletion. Sorry to have bothered you. --Diannaa (Talk) 19:20, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
It is not a bother but why are pages in my userpace a concern? Merely curious as to why. :) I do need that info should the said person decide to stalk me again. I stopped editing altogether because of the constant nagging by that person in combination with absolute and utter incompetence of ArbCom. He isn't stalking me anymore because I am not editing. -- Cat chi? 20:28, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
User page rules call for materials on other editors to be disposed of once they are no longer actively needed, so it seemed to me that these old charts could now be discarded. However, since the Arbcom case links to them, it is probably better that they be retained as they tie in to that case; there is no other copy. --Diannaa (talk) 20:41, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
The "rules" do not require me to request the deletion of pages in my suerspace the second I am done with them. Which rule are we talking about? As long as I do not use my userspace like a diary or blog it is more than welcome. Certainly offensive conduct that span multiple years such as stalking by the Jack Merridew person whom was also ruled to be stalking me (and banned from the site for over a year - though ruling was overturned before fully served through lots of wikilawyering).
Your post does not explain why you randomly decided to delete one and only one page under my userspace. Certainly userboxes as well as entire userpages are less useful that that chart that documents long term disruptive behaviour.
-- Cat chi? 14:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
It is inappropriate for material that purports to be ac-evidence to reside in user space where a degree of user-ownership is allowed. Evidence should be submitted and allowed to become the property of teh "Holy Community". This was moved to user space to facilitate moar transclusion-games; it's spammed all over.
hey niko, you're free to come back ;> teh wiki needs more of your sort to reach its fate. 114.79.62.132 (talk) Jack 05:47, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I am on a long term wiki vacation just because I feel like it. I may come back any time I desire. Go taunt someone else. I can submit evidence to arbcom in any shape or form I desire. I am perfectly allowed to submit evidence through email if I as much as desire which would make that evidence HIDDEN from the eyes of the community. I maintain that table in case Jack Merridew decides to stalk me again - which seems to be happening. The IP above seems to be from Indonesia compatible with Jack Merridew's location. -- Cat chi? 14:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

June

Undeletion request notification

Hi, you participated in a deletion request at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Wikipe-tan lolicon (2007-01-04). The same files are now being considered for undeletion at commons:Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:LoliWikipetan.jpg. If you're still around we'd appreciate your opinion and feedback. Thanks! Dcoetzee 23:38, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/White Cat

This is to notify you that you are named in the above-linked SPI. I filed this further to your extensive history with Davenbelle/Merridew/Barong, but apologise in advance if this is simply a coincidence. Regards, AGK [] 10:27, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The heck? So let me get this straight, there are people following where I live despite not making any edits for over two years? How was my country of residence revealed? This needs to be explained first. How did you acquire this information of my whereabouts?
Secondly, please tell me why this guy (Davenbelle/Jack Merridew/Et all) is this critical to this project? I have been away from the project for two years and my inbox has countless examples of different people complaining about him emailing me to comment on RFCs and RFARs. Not a soul (not even arbitrators) was out there to even read the evidence I collected to prove that he indeed was stalking me through the use of sockpuppets. I was the VICTIM he was the AGGRESSOR. What is wrong with you people?
A fake apology is in essence fake. I am not amused.
-- Cat chi? 14:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I just read some of what is going on and I for one would like to apologize to you. I'm not sure why I feel I need to, but I do since I am a member of this community, also in good standing. I guess in part I feel embarrassed by all of this. I hope things get straightened out to your satisfactions. Oh, yea one more thing, I hope to see you around. Have a good day, --CrohnieGalTalk 19:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I was feeling wiki lynched and feeling very uncomfortable. You cannot imagine the positive effect a simple two line post under such circumstances. -- Cat chi? 19:17, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Just to let you know I commented to you at my talk page. ;) --CrohnieGalTalk 19:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Yes, actually I do. I hope I did make you feel a little better. I hate seeing this kind of stuff in the community that I am proud to be a member of, but I am also slowly starting to see too much of this negative stuff I think. The best advice I can give is for you to ignore it as best you can. To me it looks like someone is pulling strings via emails or something to all of a sudden get you involved in this mess. Just answer the questions they ask and ask the questions you need to even if it means going to an administrator via email to ask them. I am curious as to what triggered the spi report to begin with. I do have my own suspicion but that's all they are, suspicion. Have a good night, need to go for now. --CrohnieGalTalk 19:38, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I am not sure what prompted the SPI, time and time again people forget to simply ask me if I am that person or not. Asking me first and then going SPI is still possible. This happened before with arbitration cases where I was the only other involved party whom wasn't worth notifying. :/ I too am curious how things went so wrong. -- Cat chi? 19:44, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Stop

I am not a vandal. Stop calling me one. --VanishedUser99 14:54, 29 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by VanishedUser99 (talkcontribs)

I do not know who you are and have no quarrel with you. I only care about the person stalking me (unless that is you) and the fact that I have been accused of being a vandal which I take great offense. -- Cat chi? 15:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Block

I am assuming it was a mistake since you immediately reverted it but I had to deal with the autoblocker. I'd like to kindly ask you to be more careful in the future. Also please delete the revisions in my talk page identifying my IP address to the general public. -- Cat chi? 16:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)  Done Sincere apologies. JamesBWatson (talk) 18:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Also I want to keep this thread on both talk pages. -- Cat chi? 17:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Not sure what thread you mean. Can you clarify? JamesBWatson (talk) 18:56, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Copying the discussion on both places so it is archived properly in both talk page archives. Thanks for the deletion of personal info. -- Cat chi? 19:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Reply

My post at WP:SPI is connecting the evidence I have seen. Perhaps I was too fast on the trigger. It is of course possible that some troll is impersonating you via proxies. Also, as I joined the wiki long after all of the shite between you and Jack went down I am perhaps unaware of some other player involved who might be inclined to show up in a Jack-sock-tagging WP:SPA manner. As additional checkusers have now stated that you and SilentBlues are unrelated I will strike out my WP:DUCK assertion at WP:SPI. Ah, the pitfalls of the wiki.

I would suggest that you possibly tone down the rhetoric however. Perhaps acting in a more collected and collaborative manner you will find yourself more allies and fewer critics here on the wiki. Take care. N419BH 20:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I wish it was that easy, over half a decade I have been forced to deal with this person time and time again as a result I get a little carried away when being forced to deal with him again because people (*COUGH* Arbcom *COUGH*) keep unblocking him. I apologize if you were hit by some of the flak but I was feeling wiki-lynched for the third or fourth time because of this individual. Not that I am trying to make excuses but just trying to elaborate on the reasons of my actions. Each time I have to present evidence trying to prove my innocence when in fact I am the victim. I will however take your advice from now on though I do not know how I can work in a collaborative manner after all that happened in the years accumulating to this day. -- Cat chi? 20:41, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I would like to express my agreement with N419BH. I do understand that you must find the situation frustrating, but remember that the people you are trying to persuade in the SPI are not the person who you reckon has been harassing you. I was never convinced by the sockpuppet case against you, which is why I closed the investigation without taking action against you. (The case has since been reopened, but that is another matter.) Frankly, I don't know whether the charges were justified or not, but in the absence of clear evidence I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. However, your angry and belligerent response to the investigation is far more likely to turn people against you than to win you support. I was once the subject of a sockpuppet investigation, which I thought (and still think) was completely malicious, and which had no basis. However, I did not express anger and indignation. Instead, I simply stated in two short sentences what I thought, and left it to others to judge the case. Naturally I would have returned and said more if the case had turned against me, but I believe that starting by expressing myself in a minimal way was more likely to succeed in conveying my view than being angry, and if you are subject to similar accusations in the future I suggest thinking very carefully about how to respond. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:55, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
My advice would be to bury the hatchet, and do that by moving User:White Cat/RFAR/graph to your own computer and off of public view. It's too likely to be seen as scorekeeping. If Jack does return to the behavior documented by that timeline you can always e-mail it to arbcom or publicly post it again. I don't think Jack's contacted you since his unban, so he's either being very careful, you haven't been around so he hasn't had the ability to contact you, or it's truly a stale issue that no longer applies present day. I truly do not know which one it is. I consider Jack a wikifriend, but I find his present behavior unacceptable. The guy has done a lot of good work but has a habit of getting himself in trouble. Right now he should be indef-blocked for his and the community's good. I am one to believe there are no truly bad apples here (except Grawp and 4chan raids...maybe a couple others, mostly in the WP:LTA category) and everyone has good work that they can do. Some of the stuff Jack's done in the past especially with regard to you are totally unacceptable. Some things he has done in the present (which have nothing to do with you) are also totally unacceptable. I do not think any editor should have their past hung over their head for all time. Doing that will destroy the wiki. For you, continuing to keep past matters in the present is likely to make you a target for trolls as has probably happened with this SilentBlues person. N419BH 21:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Well to all of you talking to White Cat, I'd like to remind you of assuming good faith in a long term editor who is in fact is in good standing with the community. This whole thing had to be stressful with all the nasty history involved. Just my opinion, but I was so sad to see how this all got started and the rest of it. I'm very happy though that things finally got resolved. --CrohnieGalTalk 12:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Reply 2

Hey White Cat, I've made an additional comment at the SPI requesting it be closed. Thanks for your patience, and I apologize for my strongly worded evidence statement in that location. N419BH 03:06, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

That is fine I think. I did a little digging myself I noticed these: [1] which trails to [2] (User:81.164.215.61) which trails to User:Access Denied. I think this is what is going on. I do not know who this person is but fair chance he may be User:Access Denied. Since he chose to vanish, there isn't much to discuss but this is what I think. -- Cat chi? 03:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
The IPs connected to Access Denied locate to Mexico City and Nevada, and his standard modus operadi doesn't seem to match up to this type of behavior. He'd have to either be in Brussels on vacation or that IP has to be an open proxy. I'd have a hard time believing it's AD based on those links and AD's known behavior. I of course could be wrong. It would be interesting to know whether that IP connected to SilentBlues is a proxy or not. The behavioral connection between the IP and SilentBlues is pretty easy to make though only the checkusers know whether it truly is SilentBlues for sure. N419BH 03:55, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Or he may be visiting Brussels :p. I cannot be sure about anything without data from checkuser tools. Even if I had the data from the tools I do not know how conclusive IP data would be since it matches at least two users (one being me and other being Fram) as well as countless other Belgians... The ISP I use distributes the dynamic IPs to the entire Brussels region which is most of the population of Belgium probably. I think this will remain a mystery forever - at least until I preform lexical analysis through machine learning. -- Cat chi? 09:48, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

July

ただいま。

Hello there. Any articles you want to work on? Mainly anime/manga but I am open to suggestions. -- Cat chi? 09:24, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

... Wow o.O You are back to the realm of the living, right? - Penwhale | dance in the air and follow his steps 09:32, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Well... Undead maybe :p I will finally have time for them wikis I think. Although my schedule is as always quite hectic. -- Cat chi? 10:13, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

If you want to do a GAR I need someone to take over American Airlines Flight 191. DeltaQuad (talk · contribs) was working on it but no longer has time. N419BH 16:36, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Eh? I'd like to avoid wikibureaucracy of any kind even if it is for a good cause. More am looking to write articles without worrying about policy and procedures. -- Cat chi? 18:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm one of those who believe that, at this point in the history of enwiki, most (but certainly not all) of the articles that should be written already have been. Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Open tasks, looks like there's a large number of articles requiring attention in your preferred subject area there. N419BH 18:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I may do that maybe. Sorry I cannot be much of help to you, though I thank you for the offer. :) -- Cat chi? 09:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Links to userpsace

Hi, I'd like to know why these two pages link to User:White Cat/Wikistress status. Thanks -- Cat chi? 09:57, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Presumably Kirill edited those pages often enough to get on those reports. All those pages need to be blanked anyway, I've been putting it off for a while now. Franamax (talk) 14:33, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Ah OK. I was just confused. :) -- Cat chi? 00:33, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

User:とある白い猫

Are you trying to rename yourself? Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:26, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Eventually yes. It will be a long process as so many wiki b'crats will need to be individually asked on many wikis. Merely reserving it in advance. -- Cat chi?
Ok... would you mind not redirecting things in the meantime? It may make things very confusing for other users trying to communicate with you. It's also generally a lot easier for crats to do a rename without an account already in place, but I guess it's too late for that now. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:31, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I just moved my userpage. You can move it back if you like (I cannot do this myself anymore anyways). I moved it to limit confusion but I may be causing confusion unknowingly. -- Cat chi? 00:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Caaaaaaaat

Hi. How are you ? Anata wa ogenki desuka ? Toaru Majutsu no Index'ten dolayı mı, とある白い猫 oldun ? Takabeg (talk) 06:06, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

İyi günler. はい、 げんきです。 Nickimin manga ile direkt ilgisi yok. :) -- とある白い猫 chi? 11:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

File:TNG-Cadet-blank.PNG listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:TNG-Cadet-blank.PNG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. –Drilnoth (T/C) 10:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Tng red ADM pipbg.PNG listed for deletion

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Image nominations

Umm... Why is it that you are spending all your time finding low quality images? Wouldn't your time be better spent with more pressing issues? Merely curious. -- とある白い猫 chi? 00:18, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Most of the time, I'm actually on the hunt for images with potential copyright issues; I usually just come across low-quality images incidentally, although sometimes I go on the hunt for them as a break from copyright-related stuff. IMHO, getting rid of or fixing copyright violations is a relatively pressing issue, and one that not many people are willing to take the time to work on (it can be tedious, and not very rewarding because it is such an overlooked area of the project). Also, I think I'm better at that than I am at working on the other, article-related, backlogs, and I'm also not real great at writing articles (although I hope to start fixing that soon!). –Drilnoth (T/C) 12:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Mind you images (even copyrighted ones) aren't really deleted, just hidden for public so there isn't any benefit of getting them deleted. I merely want to explain the technical issues so you do not end up wasting your time. :) -- とある白い猫 chi? 14:27, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Door stop (disambiguation)

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Speedy deletion declined: Door stop (disambiguation)

Hello とある白い猫. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Door stop (disambiguation), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 21:49, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

It is patent nonsense. I created the page in the past to sort out disambiguation issues that no longer exist. Please delete it. -- とある白い猫 chi? 21:51, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Question (?)

Hello! what's the meaning of your signature ("chi?"), Is it "What" in English? --FaramarzTalk 20:07, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello, it is an obscure reference to Chobits actually. It does not have a meaning beyond that. -- とある白い猫 chi? 21:13, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, I got it, but in my language (Persian or Farsi) "chi?" (چی؟) means "What?" ;)! --FaramarzTalk 17:40, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
Very interesting. I learnt something new today! :D -- とある白い猫 chi? 20:22, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

August

Template

Before I continue, does Template:Membership/Mexico look about right? --Moralis (talk) 03:42, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

It looks perfect. Now while I did remove some of the optional parameters (since I doubt Mexico will ever join the African Union =D) this however isn't really necessary as long as a membership or pre-membership date is not provided. So it is perfect. :) Keep up the good work and let me know if you run into problems. -- とある白い猫 chi? 08:47, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Templates

I need help in expanding the templates as well as creating more of them. I will be mentioning a series of short comings and problems I have. I didn't want to bore you off with this info until you had the free time :).

A small history lesson, I apologize if you know all this already. My understanding of the complicated history of EU is limited but... Three significant events lead to the formation of EU. (More info is at Treaties of the European Union#Ratified_treaties which has a nice chart.)

  1. Inner Six/Outer Seven era where a few of the post-ww2 era Western European countries formed a number of loosely related economic treaties. These were European Coal and Steel Community, European Economic Community, European Atomic Energy Community most notably.
  2. European Communities was formed in 1 July 1967 with Merger Treaty. The above treaties were amended and merged. This isn't currently represented in the template as I am unsure what the best way is to handle the complex relationship.
  3. With 1993-11-1 with Maastricht Treaty the EU we know today came into existence.

What I want the template to do is all I should do is provide it a date and it should pull the relevant membership info. In the case of France, EU field should show "I6" or "Inner Six" when a date after 1952 but before 1967 (dates of the treaties mentioned in 1 & 2 above) is given. It should return "EC" or "European Communities" for dates between 1967 and 1993 and show "EU" or "European Union" for dates after 1993.

As for the actual template done so far:

I created some documentation for the template: {{Membership/Sub/T/doc}} which should give a general idea. The templates actual use is probably a lot simpler than it looks.

Do also take a look at {{Membership/France}}. For France's historic relation with European Union consider the line:

  |EUorg={{{EUorg|EU}}}
  |EUpreorg={{{EUpreorg|EU/I6}}}

  |EU={{{EU|Show}}}
  |EUpre={{{EUpre|Show}}}

  |EUmembership={{{EUmembership|1993-11-1}}}
  |EUpremembership={{{EUpremembership|1952-07-23}}}

  |EUsup={{{EUsup|}}}

The reason why I have parameters like {{{EU|Show}}}, {{{EUsup|}}} is to allow people calling the template to pass values to the fields or hide the fields if needed.

The {{{EUorg|EU}}} determines what template will be called when the "EUmembership" needs to be shown. It actually calls {{Membership/Sub/Flag/EU}}. This is the EU we know as it came to existence/effect in 1993. The {{{EUpreorg|EU/I6}}} determines what template will be called for the "EUpremembership". It actually calls {{Membership/Sub/Flag/EU/I6}} in my work. As mentioned above the "European Communities" Pre-EU era isn't shown in this current template structure which is wrong. I6 ceased to exist (more or less) with the merger treaty I believe. The complication is that EU has two "pre-era"s. I was thinking of using a switch (somehow) but then waited to hear what you think. More detailed info of EU;s expansion is at Enlargement of the European Union#Detail.

The structure is a lot simpler for other organizations where membership is merely joining the organization and pre-membership is the time period where countries prepare for the membership.

The other issue is when countries leave organizations or end up getting suspended. For instance Fiji left the commonwealth after joining and then rejoined but has been suspended twice so far. Or France left NATO's military wing until recently. Such cases aren't handled either. Might I add the complicated membership of UN security council temporary membership where countries join for 2 years only multiple times with gaps.

One last thing I want to handle is the dates when countries came to existence or ceased to exist. If someone tries to pass the date 1950s to check the membership info for say Estonia they should be receiving a message saying the country did not exist as a sovereign country. Or if someone tries to link to Czechoslovakia by passing a date in 2000s they should get a warning that the country no longer exists. Likewise a NATO membership for 1930s (before NATO existed) or membership for organizations like Western Union, Warsaw Pact in 2010s should return an error as these organizations ceased to exist.

So these are the problems that require template coding. I'd like to know what you think. I want to maintain a one (or more) template structure as I think having all these relationships in one template would generate a template that is far far too complicated particularly when it needs to be updated.

-- とある白い猫 chi? 02:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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Have you seen this discussion

とある白い猫, Have you noticed: Wikipedia talk:Signatures#Signatures that don't contain the exact username? I mentioned you there. Some users believe everyone needs to have a latin or latin-derived signature.--Doug.(talk contribs) 11:03, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Follow-up, it has expanded to Wikipedia_talk:Username_policy#RFC:_Use_of_non-latin_or_unicode_characters_as_usernames, a much broader and ridiculous proposal to simply prohibit non-latin usernames!--Doug.(talk contribs) 08:27, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Seriously? We are going to ban all unicode? This has been discussed before as I vividly remember username policy explicitly banning non-unicode before SUL. Anyways I will post something later today. I am simply too baffled by the weirdness of the proposal! :-D Thanks for letting me know. -- とある白い猫 chi? 19:41, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Your bot@pl.wiki

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It is OK :) -- とある白い猫 chi? 06:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Prince Bishops of Liège

Why did you create this self redirect? -- とある白い猫 chi? 10:41, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. My mistake. Hopefully fixed now.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:44, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Merci/Dankjewel -- とある白い猫 chi? 11:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Wikinewspar5

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Hurricane Irene (2011)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hurricane_Irene_%282011%29&action=historysubmit&diff=447320836&oldid=447320290

You removed the video along with images. Can I ask why?

While I agree at the talk page to your assessment, perhaps you would consider my template proposal there for the images. I feel lots of images is a good way to illustrate the damage in the article while also feel they shouldn't over-clutter the article.

-- とある白い猫 chi? 19:48, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Lots of images may be a nice way to demonstrate the damage of the Hurricane however WP:LAYOUT#Images states "You should always be watchful not to overwhelm an article with images by adding more just because you can" "Images should ideally be spread evenly within the article". Afro (Talk) 20:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I am sorry but did you actually check my proposal? I do not need to be reminded of guidelines and policies mid discussion as it is a very very poor way to continue a discussion. -- とある白い猫 chi? 20:42, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Well to me it doesn't really solve the issue, I didn't remind you of you MOS to offend you, I quoted it because I feel they still apply to the proposal, in my mind you're still overwhelming a section with imagery and not spreading them evenly throughout the article. Afro (Talk) 20:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I am not offended. It is just that rationales entirely based on guidelines or policies for editorial decisions are very weak. I might argue for instance that since it says "images" videos would not be covered by the guideline but that would again be a very weak argument.
I feel the video should be in the article while other images - I do not have a preference on. I think it would be best if we separate the two issues.
Can we discuss on the article talk page so that the discussion is more people.
-- とある白い猫 chi? 21:03, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure if the video is needed in the article you can find another section to put it in. Afro (Talk) 21:10, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I have placed it back days ago and no one removed it. Since you insist on not engaging in a discussion on the talk page I will assume you do not have issues with the proposal. If you still do have an issue with it, please do post a comment to that end. --15:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Something unrelated in relation to the talk page that was linked to above: (This talk page, I mean) Holy crap, that page is in a lot of categories. LikeLakers2 (talk) 21:55, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

September

Membership Templates

Hello. I wanted to help with the membership templates, but unfortunately, the documentation isn't easy enough. Could you please:

  1. Write up a doc for creating(not using) the subtemplates(something like {{Infobox officeholder}}'s doc), with the sections for different organizations separated, and each parameter with a comment on its usage.
  2. Tag in the doc which parameters are optional

Then, anyone would be able to create them. Thanks.--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 16:11, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Requests for ribbons

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Could I get a ribbon for this if possible? :) -- とある白い猫 chi? 03:53, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

An odd request, but sure, I guess. You should know that almost no one ever uses ribbons though. Sven Manguard Wha? 03:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I hope I captured its nature to your liking. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:18, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Order of the Upholder Ribbon Small.jpg
I've uploaded the ribbon, it's on my talk page. Hope you like it. I'm off to get some lunch, so if you don't like it, it'll have to wait a few hours. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
It is awesome! Thanks! :) Take a look at my userpage for my ribbon usage> :)
I have a problem though, I just added borders to User:とある白い猫/Ribbon which looks awful when I put these together in a group. Do you know a good way to make it so that if two bordered elelments are next to each other, border is hidden?
-- とある白い猫 chi? 05:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
No, I do not. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:33, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
Feel free to use that ribbon template as you see fit. The black stars represent multiple awarding of the same barnstar. :) -- とある白い猫 chi? 05:43, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Please do not mirror conversations like this. I will not follow both locations, I'll only follow the original one, and when the same conversation happens in two places, it inevitably diverges into two no longer identical conversations. Sven Manguard Wha? 05:35, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
    Fine we can keep it just here. :/ -- とある白い猫 chi? 05:43, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Your request for rollback

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Thank you! -- とある白い猫 chi? 06:27, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello, from CLEF

As promised. West.andrew.g (talk) 19:54, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello there! -- とある白い猫 chi? 12:07, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Membership Doc

Hi there. Sorry I haven't been able to create more templates, been a bit busy. I've just updated the doc with interpol parameters. Will create more templates now. Also, what's wrong with Wikipedia:International membership templates/2011? Some templates are linking instead of transclusion. Has it hit some kind of transclusion limit? Thanks--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 03:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

We have hit the limit yes, but that is a technical problem I hope to resolve in the upcoming days. I am busy with a few real world events but once those are resolved by Friday I'll be able to spend more time on redesigning the template structure (without changing how data is inputted) so transclusion limit problem is averted. Thank you for the updates on Interpol in doc. Interpol values actually need to be added to most of the templates as thankfully we now have the PDF of membership dates! I deserve no credit for the PDF as User:Guerillero found it. Also, welcome back :) -- とある白い猫 chi? 05:17, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

@trwiki

usurpation to your SUL account is ok for trwiki shiroi neko. --Mskyrider (talk) 18:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

October

Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#Italian_Wikipedia_Strike_and_Blackout

Hi, do you think you can revise your suggestion a little? It lacks "something" I just can't put my finger as to what. It feels like the essence of the news isn't there... Perhaps something like "The Italian Wikipedia goes on strike and hides all content in protest against the proposed Wiretapping Bill." but that also feels something is lacking... -- To Aru Shiroi Neko chi? 22:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I made some changes; does it look better now? Ks0stm (TCGE) 22:36, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
It was put on the main page already. Then it was seemingly pulled. Not sure if anything will do will mater. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 02:52, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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November

License tagging for File:Ddpimages 8.71706826-600x387.jpg

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Döner murders

I am not quite sure whether the Murder of Michèle Kiesewetter is considered part of the Döner murders or not. If I understand the German article correctly, they don't consider the Kiesewetter murder to be part of the Döner murder series. --Narziß Goldmund (talk) 17:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

The relation is based on articles such as the one on BBC. By no means do I claim to be an expert but there seems to be a connection somehow. It certainly doesn't fit the MO of the attacks but it is not like criminals will enforce their MO. The gun used seemingly matches the ones used in Döner murders. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 20:22, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

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December

Renaming in huwiki

Hi! Renaming in huwiki is ready. Regards, RepliCarter (talk) 19:27, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

SUL at th wiki

Your SUL request is done. Enjoy. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 17:42, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

answers to your questions at is.wiki

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Query

What were you trying to do here? Adding fact tags without making a specific comment in talk to explain your concern is bad form. Did you intend to remove a source and replace it with a tag? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time but please be more careful in future. --John (talk) 20:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

The source is a general ref explaining that USAF uses these aircraft. It does in no way explain that USAF was using these aircraft during the actual incident which is the kind of source needed for the infobox. This is why the mentioned ref isn't helpful. Involved parties should be very well sourced particularly on articles that cover international incidents with political consequences. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 06:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Hmm. It was very easy to find a better source for it being a USAF drone. You also added fact tags to the CIA and Iranian armed forces, although these facts were clearly and multiply referenced throughout the article. We all make mistakes but I would ask you again to be more careful in the future. As it stood, your edit looked almost like vandalism. --John (talk) 08:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
Information referenced elsewhere in the article isn't very relevant unless there is a direct citation in the infobox on articles such as this one. The infobox did not have ref's. I would prefer sources beyond media to establish participants if possible given the importance of the information. I can always find "media" claiming CIA was involved in regards to practically anything involving Iran which is why I ask of this. Certainly some media is more credible than others but official sources claiming responsibility are even better. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 09:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!

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DEAR SIR! I WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
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Cyclone Nisha (1993)

This page is a self redirect. Were you trying to redirect it to somewhere else? -- A Certain White Cat chi? 03:04, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I meant to point the redirect to 1992-93 South Pacific cyclone Season and have redirected it off now. Thank you for bringing this redirect to my attention.Jason Rees (talk) 03:38, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you! -- A Certain White Cat chi? 19:45, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

invite to find the elusive camocat!

thank you for the image linking help! so you have been invited to find the elusive camocat! he is hiding on my user page. Abc123456person (talk) 19:13, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi... I am quite confused... -- A Certain White Cat chi? 19:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC)