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Just curious

Hi! I noticed that you nominated several lists at WP:TFLS. Did you write all of those blurbs? Do you take requests/wishes for writing blurbs (I am pretty bad at it ;-))? bamse (talk) 19:06, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't know how the lists get from TFLS to the main page, i.e. whether they are shown on the main page in the order given in TFLS or whether somebody makes a selection. If the latter is the case, it would not hurt to have two National Treasure lists at TFLS, would it? Either way I did not see any fine arts list at TFLS yet. So something like paintings, sculptures, swords or other crafts could fill a gap. I'd be very happy if you considered writing a blurb for it (anytime you feel like it; no need to do it now). bamse (talk) 21:51, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I am afraid my understanding of Buddhism (and non-Japanese, i.e. Chinese/Indian stuff) is too limited to do much about the twelve generals. I am lacking sources and knowledge to do much about Tanzania's protected areas, so the WH in Danger would be the most likely candidate. One Hundred Famous Views of Edo (how do you like this for TFLS?) could be another candidate for FL. The good point of the WH in Danger list is that it would likely interest more reviewers, so that I would not need to harass people with a review request. First I'd like to get all NT lists to FL (one is a candidate now and the other only needs a copy-edit) though, which will take a couple of months more. And as far as I understand, I can have only one list at a time at FLC. bamse (talk) 22:25, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

The article Giglets has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Wikipedia is not a dictionary

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The article Stultification has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Belongs at Wiktionary. See WP:NOTDICTIONARY.

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Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Shakespeare scholars

Category:Shakespeare scholars, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I noticed you added this list article to the template for Oakland, CA. When i first encountered it, i had not seen any such lists, and thought the list should only be of books or authors who have articles or the likelihood of an article. however, I did a little looking around, and found numerous such bibliographical lists. I have apologized the article creator for any apparent slight i made in my comments, but i do have an ongoing question: what exactly ARE the criteria for inclusion for bibliographical lists like this? I ask you because you have a fairly extensive editing history, and i want to get some sense of what is going on with such lists before making any edits (which i may not do anyway, of course, depending on real world commitments). Have you worked on such bibliographic lists, either stand alone articles or the long "further reading" sections of articles? Is this list as it stands pretty close to the standards? ARE there standards? SHOULD there be standards? WHO would set them? If you know of a forum where this is discussed, id like to be directed there. i found Wikipedia:List of bibliographies and Lists of books, not sure if anyone there is interested.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 23:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Need your help.

We need to keep episodes 24-26 hidden until their air dates on the List of Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated episodes cause someone is still vandalizing the Scooby-Doo! Mystery Incorporated page and changing the status from Airing to Returning series with no reference and I believe they are doing it because of the episodes page. Please help me keep them hidden for now to minimize the vandalism on the main page. JamesAlan1986 (talk-Contributes) 07:25, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

TFL suggestions

Hello Neelix. Firstly, thanks so much for your interest in our new project, very much appreciated! So far so good, there's been no major traumas relating to our lists on the main page, and in due course I think we'll be going for a more frequent appearance. However, in the meantime, we're now up to 50-odd suggestions at Wikipedia:Today's featured list/submissions, most of them from you which, currently, would give us a year's worth of nominations, not including the ten or so that have already been accepted for the queue. I find editing that page on my pathetic 2.4 GHz Macbook a challenge now, so I was wondering if you'd slow down a little on the nominations until the rest of the community has a chance to catch up with your suggestions and I can move more to the prep area? All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 16:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. I missed the comment WFC had made about 100 blurbs. Nevertheless, I think where we are right now is fantastic. I see FAC getting complaints about not having even tomorrow's blurb in place (although hopefully that'll change, if it hasn't already), and with 50 suggested blurbs and an approved queue of 10 or so to get lined up, I think TFL is already in a seriously good state to consider expanding to perhaps three days a week in a couple of months time! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:44, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Should the category "Laotian people" be changed to "Lao people"?

Hi, Neelix. I noticed that you had changed Laotian cuisine to Lao cuisine and provided the following edit summary: (moved Laotian cuisine to Lao cuisine over redirect: "Lao" is a more common adjectival for Laos than "Laotian". Google Books has 220 hits for "Lao cuisine" but only 60 for "Laotian cuisine".) You also moved Laotian art to Lao art and stated again that: ("Lao" is a more common adjectival for Laos than "Laotian".)

I've submitted a proposal to change Category:Laotian people to Category:Lao people so that it is in the more common form. I thought that you might be interested in the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 1#Category:Laotian people. Thank you. Wikicentral (talk) 09:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Orange-breasted for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Orange-breasted is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orange-breasted until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Snowman (talk) 13:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Egregiousnesses listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Egregiousnesses. Since you had some involvement with the Egregiousnesses redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Wandering Courier (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

No consensus?

Can you please explicate how you determined that there was no consensus to move at Talk:United States Declaration of Independence? 7 !votes in support vs. 4 !votes opposed is normally considered to be consensus support, unless the support argument counters policy or something. Perhaps you miscounted? Or am I missing something? --Born2cycle (talk) 00:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for replying on my talk page. I'm afraid you've misinterpreted the guideline. To verify, I've started a discussion about it at WT:AT: Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#Clarification_of_WP:PRECISION. Please read my detailed analysis for what the guideline means, why, and how you misinterpreted it.

If you think I'm missing something, please explain there. Otherwise, please reverse your decision. Thanks. --Born2cycle (talk) 04:14, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Brave

Neelix, that was a brave close. Kudos to you for taking it on. The argument could really go either way, and at the end of the day, either title works just fine. I think "no consensus" was a reasonable call. -GTBacchus(talk) 03:38, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and ditto all of that for Côte d'Ivoire. -GTBacchus(talk) 03:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Grant Morrison photo

Hi. Your opinion on what would be the best photo for the Infobox in the Grant Morrison article is requested here. If you could take the time to participate, it would be greatly appreciated, but if you cannot, then disregard; you don't have to leave a note on my talk page either way. Nightscream (talk) 01:32, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your contribution to Retreat of glaciers since 1850.

Thank you for your contribution to Retreat of glaciers since 1850. (",) 99.181.156.173 (talk) 03:26, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Was your warning per policy?

I've left a response to you on my talk page. I was upset by the way you warned me re 'Civility', bringing up my block log (2 civilities over five years) and saying blocks get progressively longer. One was reduced so what does that mean? And they both had mitigating circumstances.

I can't even see what I've done that's so bad - and you didn't give me a diff.

I've asked you a few questions re policy anyway. I'm extremely touchy about my block log and I always use use highly-punitive attitudes like yours as a warning to people to avoid risking blocks if they possibly can. Clearly to some admin they are scars for life. Matt Lewis (talk) 19:59, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Environmental implications of nanotechnology

I have restored this article to its old title. While there is a series of articles on environmental impacts of various technologies, this article is more closely aligned with the series of articles on various types of implications of nanotechnology, so I feel that its title should maintain consistency with the latter series. I've explained my reasoning a bit more on the article's talk page.

I support your efforts to improve organization and consistency over different articles; a lot of my work has similar goals. In this case there's just a judgement call as to what to be consistent with. Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 17:01, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Neelix. Did you see the talk page? There's no consensus to move the article. To be honest, I don't think there's a consensus to move the article Mojmír I. Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 16:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

File:Tree9.jpg

File:Tree9.jpg is under unidentified acacias. Any indication of its location may facilitate an identification. JMK (talk) 09:56, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for those details. Added id as Acacia erioloba, which in Zimbabwe is limited to the west. There, and anywhere else in Zimbabwe it could also have been Acacia sieberiana, but the location gives more certainty. Id, description and cat changes were added to the photo. JMK (talk) 14:10, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Your tree seems to have been photographed before, and identified as such: Camel thorn. The map on the latter page is not accurate though, the species is less widespread in Zimbabwe. JMK (talk) 14:21, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Ambassador Program: assessment drive

Even though it's been quiet on-wiki, the Wikipedia Ambassador Program has been busy over the last few months getting ready for the next term. We're heading toward over 80 classes in the US, across all disciplines. You'll see courses start popping up here, and this time we want to match one or more Online Ambassadors to each class based on interest or expertise in the subject matter. If you see a class that you're interested, please contact the professor and/or me; the sooner the Ambassadors and professors get in communication, the better things go. Look for more in the coming weeks about next term.

In the meantime, with a little help I've identified all the articles students did significant work on in the last term. Many of the articles have never been assessed, or have ratings that are out of date from before the students improved them. Please help assess them! Pick a class, or just a few articles, and give them a rating (and add a relevant WikiProject banner if there isn't one), and then update the list of articles.

Once we have updated assessments for all these articles, we can get a better idea of how quality varied from course to course, and which approaches to running Wikipedia assignments and managing courses are most effective.

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Kamen Rider video game prods

In the future, I suggest you do not use the English name of the game to perform searches to determine notability. I have found two unique references for Kamen Rider Hibiki (video game) that show it is notable and I will be seeking a reversal of the deletion of Kamen Rider Blade (video game).—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:14, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Could you please withdraw your AFD nomination? The subject of the page is a fictional character that has been in existence for longer than I have been alive. However, I can tell that you have not really made any actual searches for sources, particularly those in the original language that the subject is based in. I've found mentions in three magazines in the past few years, but I doubt that there are records going back to 1975 that I can find online. The fictional character has to be notable if it has existed in one form or another for the past 36 years.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of LC12 for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article LC12 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LC12 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Just realised that this isn't really relevant to you, as you created a redirect to something else. Sorry, TalkIslander 11:54, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Angel of the Presence for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Angel of the Presence is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angel of the Presence until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:13, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Redundant templates

What do you think of the necessity of Template:National Anthems of Asia and the other continental templates? They do have some differences to the simple topic templates, such as the ASEAN anthem in the Asia template, as well as former national anthems, but I doubt that many of these links are that helpful anyway. Also, can you delete the National anthem of Cocos (Keeling) Islands I just created? Bad grammar. Cheers, Chipmunkdavis (talk) 18:19, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I can't edit the Asia topic page (locked), but the Nagorno Karabakh code needs redoing to match the Europe coding, so it will point to the country not the region. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 18:39, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Davis,
The template you mention has already been nominated for deletion here and the result was an adamant keep. Hardcoded instances are to be avoided in all cases where there is no useful variation, but any useful variation justifies the separate template. In the specific case of the national anthem templates, they currently list other regional anthems that are not national anthems. My recommendation is to change the names of these templates to be "Anthems of Asia," etc. so that all the regional anthems are justifiably included. I have deleted the redirect you requested be removed. As for the Asia topic template, I believe the Nagorno-Karabakh link to be correct as it is; the template is not employed without suffixes or prefixes, and most of the articles about the country omit the word "Republic" from the title. The naming of those articles should be uniform even though it isn't at the moment, but the form that omits the word "Republic" is currently the most common. If this issue is important to you, I recommend starting a discussion and gaining consensus about what the naming convention should be across the board for articles relating to Nagorno-Karabakh (Economy of, List of political parties in, etc.). This may be an appropriate location for such a discussion.
Neelix (talk) 02:05, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Neelix, thanks so much for your work assessing student articles! For that (and more) I award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 13:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Ambassadors

Hi, by the way, I am trying to get those who know online ambassadors to see if something like the end of the page suggestion on Talk:Message_passing can be done, so class projects can fix things. Any hope of that? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 19:46, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I answered on mytalk page. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 20:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Ok, then let me leave it by suggesting that some type of "requested class project" list may be a good idea. It will take me more effort to contact professors than fix the pages myself! But I could post there if there is one. There are requested lists all over, so maybe this may work if someone (not myself) starts it. History2007 (talk) 20:55, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

New messages

Hello, Neelix. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list/prep.
Message added Nightw 21:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Talkback

Hello, Neelix. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion.
Message added 03:36, 16 August 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:36, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much for notifying me of the recreation! Neelix (talk) 15:28, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Neelix. You have new messages at Prof M Johnson's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello,

I am a student and will be working with you! Please help me and guide me, since the world of wikipedia is new to me in the publishing arena.

Wendy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montero.Wendy61 (talkcontribs) 23:59, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello! I am one of Prof M Johnson's students and will be working with you on developing a Wikipedia article. Cbielass (talk) 00:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


Hello, Neelix. I'm another student from Professor Johnson's Politics of Developing Nations class. I appreciated the guidelines you have posted on your user page; I found them helpful. Thank you for the guidance you offer to our class. Kit.i.t. (talk) 22:02, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

Civility Award
for exceptional work at and leading up to Talk:Environmental impact of nanotechnology#Requested move. Andrewa (talk) 13:33, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you, Andrew! Of all the barnsars I have, this is the one I value most. Neelix (talk) 15:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors: Time to join pods

Hello! If you're planning to be an active Online Ambassador for the upcoming academic term, now is the time to join one or more pods. (A pod consists of the instructor, the Campus Ambassadors, and the Online Ambassadors for single class.) The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) explains the expectations for being part of a pod as an Online Ambassador. (The MOU for pods in Canada is essentially the same.) In short, the role of Online Ambassadors this term consists of:

  • Working closely with the instructor and Campus Ambassadors, providing advice and perspective as an experienced Wikipedian
  • Helping students who ask for it (or helping them to find the help they need)
  • Watching out for the class as a whole
  • Helping students to get community feedback on their work

This replaces the 1-on-1 mentoring role for Online Ambassadors that we had in previous terms; rather than being responsible for individual students (some of whom don't want or help or are unresponsive), Online Ambassadors will be there to help whichever students in their class(es) ask for help.

You can browse the upcoming courses here: United States; Canada. More are being added as new pods become active and create their course pages.

Once you've found a class that you want to work with—especially if you some interest or expertise in the topic area—you should sign the MOU listing for that class and get in touch with the instructor. We're hoping to have at least two Online Ambassadors per pod, and more for the larger classes.

If you're up for supporting any kind of class and would like me to assign you to a pod in need of more Online Ambassadors, just let me know.

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 16:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

PS: There are still a lot of student articles from the last term that haven't been rated. Please rate a few and update the list!

A pod suggestion for you: Politics of Developing Nations

Hi Neelix! I'm in the process of trying to find Online Ambassadors to support each of the classes for this coming term, and I thought you'd be a good fit for this one: Wikipedia:United States Education Program/Courses/Politics of Developing Nations (Martha Johnson). If you're up for it, please check out the Memorandum of Understanding (linked above) which sketches the expectations for Online Ambassadors this term, and then you can sign on to class and get in touch with the professor --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 16:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Self-abnegation listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Self-abnegation. Since you had some involvement with the Self-abnegation redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so).

Also, Self-abnegate, Self-abnegated, and Self-abnegating. HairyWombat 05:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Table sorting

After you left a note on my talk page about negative numbers not sorting correctly, I started working on the problem. I was able to come up with a solution so that now when you use {{Convert}}'s sortable option it should work with fewer limitations. –droll [chat] 05:21, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

List of World Heritage in Danger

Hi! Just wanted to let you know, since you asked, that List of World Heritage in Danger just got featured. bamse (talk) 09:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Review at TFL submission

Just wanted to let you know that I offered some comments at one of the lists you placed on Wikipedia:Today's featured list/submissions. The list I looked at was Aurealis Award for best young-adult novel. If you have time, please have a look at the comments. Thanks for this and your other submissions! Giants2008 (27 and counting) 18:19, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Responded back at TFL/S. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 20:27, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

If you are going to nominate pages like these for deletion, it would help to notify the WikiProject that works on the upkeep of these pages.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:30, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Also I've been reverting your unlinking because I find that whole process to be entirely unhelpful. Just because a shitty article existed as of a week ago does not mean the article will never exist again.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 02:35, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Update on courses and ambassador needs

Hello, Ambassadors!

I wanted to give you one last update on where we are this term, before my role as Online Facilitator wraps up at the end of this week. Already, there are over 800 students in U.S. classes who have signed up on course pages this term. About 40 classes are active, and we're expecting that many more again once all the classes are up and running.

On a personal note, it's been a huge honor to work with so many great Wikipedians over the last 15 months. Thanks so much to everyone who jumped in and decided to give the ambassador concept a try, and double thanks those of you who were involved early on. Your ideas and insights and enthusiasm have been the foundation of the program, and they will be the keys the future of the program.

Courses looking for Online Ambassadors

Still waiting to get involved with a class this term, or ready to take on more? We have seven classes that are already active and need OA support, and eleven more that have course pages started but don't have active students yet. Please consider joining one or more of these pods!

Active courses that really need Online Ambassadors:

Courses that may be active soon that need Online Ambassadors:

--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:13, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

thanks!

Thanks for your kind words. I replied on my talk page.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 16:36, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Research Advice re General People's Committee Article

Dear Neelix:

I am writing a research paper on the history of Libyan political personnel and came across a wiki article you contributed to, which I translated from Arabic to English using google. The Article is entitled “General People’s Committee”, which you can access as follows: http://ar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/اللجنة_الشعبية_العامة

This article is exactly what I’m looking for, but there is a historical hole from 1990 – 2006. Do you have any idea why these dates are missing from the article? Do you have any information on this topic pertaining to 1990 – 2006 or know of any other sources I can consult to find the missing information? I have to submit my paper to my professor by Monday morning, so if you could prove any help at all, I would truly appreciate it! Please feel free to contact me directly via e-mail at agreen789@yahoo.com.

Thank you in advance for your time and hope to hear from you soon!

Sincerely, Ann Green — Preceding unsigned comment added by AGreen789 (talkcontribs) 20:04, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Detectingly listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Detectingly. Since you had some involvement with the Detectingly redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Simone (talk) 13:39, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks from WPLT

The London Transport Barnstar
Awarded for undertaking the laborious task of adding alt text to the hundreds of images at List of London Underground stations. Thanks on behalf of WikiProject London Transport --DavidCane (talk) 23:01, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on File:Shock.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Mlpearc powwow 17:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Shock.jpg

Thanks for uploading File:Shock.jpg, which you've sourced to Self. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license.

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If you did not create it entirely yourself, please ask the person who created the file to take one of the two steps listed above, or if the owner of the file has already given their permission to you via email, please forward that email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org.

If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:File copyright tags#Fair use, and add a rationale justifying the file's use on the article or articles where it is included. See Wikipedia:File copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. You may wish to read the Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Mlpearc powwow 03:35, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

You have not shown any proof that you have sent your permissions to use this image to OTRS, and you have removed all tagging placed on the file page. Can you please enlighten me to why ? Thank you. Mlpearc powwow 00:14, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mlpearc,
I'm not sure what you mean by your comment above. The first time you nominated this image for deletion, it was because someone had inappropriately replaced the image I uploaded with an image that duplicated another image already on Wikipedia. When I reverted the second upload so that the image I had originally uploaded was all that remained, you again nominated the image for deletion, stating that "This file is missing evidence of permission. It is sourced to Self, and while a copyright tag has been applied, there is no proof that the author agreed to license the file under the given license." I assumed that you placed the deletion tag there in error because you thought that I had simply removed the tag and you didn't realize that you were now objecting to a different image than you had been originally. The second deletion tag you placed on the image does not make sense because there is no copyright tag that has been applied. Quite the opposite; I have released the image to the public domain, avoiding copyright completely. I am the originator of the image and, as far as I am aware, no further evidence of permission is required. Am I understanding the situation correctly?
Neelix (talk) 01:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Even if the image is the creation of the uploader permissions is still required from you the uploadede/author for Wikipedia to display/use the image. This is my understanding. If I uploaded a picture I took of my dog, I still need to provide OTRS with a release, I must give permission to Wikipedia to use my picture. Mlpearc powwow 04:14, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I think that only applies to the case where the uploader and photographer are different people, i.e. not here. Otherwise you could start deleting most images on commons. bamse (talk) 07:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Toddle for deletion

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TFL review

Hi Neelix. Just wanted to let you know that I have reviewed one of your TFL submissions, List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft. Please take a look at the comments when you get a chance. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 20:45, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII & George VI

I don't think 7 to 4, amounts to a consensus to move. Anyways, I'm not gonna contest the move. GoodDay (talk) 16:09, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

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Captain (nautical) move to Shipmaster?

If there was discussion about the move, I wasn't aware of one. I don't think avoiding parens is a legitimate excuse to arbitrarily move an article without a discussion. Please undo your edits and start a discussion about the move. Thank you! Kirk (talk) 14:33, 27 October 2011 (UTC) Here's what I think:

  • Shipmaster could be considered gramatically incorrect (Ship's master appears more correct to me on first glance).
  • I was unable to find any reference to the term on the Merchant Marine or Coast Guard websites.
  • I think the discussion on the alternatives would be helpful because there are other Captains/Masters (the terms I would prefer) out there who probably have an opinion. I would also like to know your rationale for why you chose the term other than it doesn't have parens.

Kirk (talk) 21:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

    • I understand now - this article not well sourced I wouldn't rely on it as authoritative; I'm not sure of any ample evidence of shipmaster in the literature (or citations in the article). The head of a merchant ship official rank is "Master" [1]; aka Master Mariner. However, the head of a large ship is given the title 'Captain', which leads to almost any ship's master being called 'Captain'. Captain is the common name and Sea Captain is a good fit for it and Captain (nautical). Kirk (talk) 11:46, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Adventure.JPG

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How long must I continue to tolerate this user's provocations? Since my first encounter with him a week ago, there has been conflict. He has repeatedly used the article talk page as a billboard for his grievances. When I deleted his personal attacks, he complained to Jpgordon, but Jpgordon rebuffed him. The attitude he has expressed on my alternate talk page speaks for itself.

I took the step of removing steampunk-related articles from my watchlist so that our paths would no longer cross, but, here he comes to my talk page to stir the shit some more. I had decided that if our paths did not cross again, I would not take any steps of reporting him to an admin., but it seems he simply wants to start trouble. --RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 15:08, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Any further action on my part will only inflame the situation, since he has already accused me of being a "bully" multiple times and on multiple pages. The purpose of bringing this to the attention of a previously-uninvolved administrator is that you might be able to talk some sense into him. Jpgordon rebuke had no apparent impact, but someone has to advise him of the proper way of behaving. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 15:37, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
SIGHH RJ, when are you going to stop this? Now dragging this Neelix person into it? You sure have these good people cowed, do you not? How about being totally honest and showing them your original attack on me? This is vendetta, and you'd best quit now, boy.75.21.113.40 (talk) 01:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Another TFL review

Hello again Neelix. This time I've reviewed Heroic Age of Antarctic Exploration at WP:TFLS. If you're interested, come take a look. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)