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Notable? Sourceable? AfD? DlohCierekim 10:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Chronology of Ukrainian language suppression

By the recent edits, some debates emerged, also including other users, what could be really treated as part of the subject. Regarding a certain entry as well, including Peter Mogila. By the mother article he is identified as Romanian, while here he is presented as Ukrainian, and on the next entry he is reffered as "Petro Mohyla", in Ukrainian orthography...not consistent, so I kindly ask anyone here to check this issue and the others more broadly.(KIENGIR (talk) 14:01, 30 May 2019 (UTC))

Rivers of Romania

Rivers of Romania, List of rivers of Romania and four other related redirects have been nominated at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 June 17#Rivers of Romania where your comments are invited. Thryduulf (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Iosif Constantin Drăgan

The article Iosif Constantin Drăgan had been whitewashed. More eyes needed in case of possible edit war. Especially germane is WP:PAID, since DEF from the username might mean Drăgan European Foundation. Tgeorgescu (talk) 17:00, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Knowing the politicians in this country is most likely that the government staff would do that. Editoneer (talk) 06:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Babeș-Bolyai University - Foundation date

Please see talk.(KIENGIR (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC))

GA reassessment of Ester Peony

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Home Army Request for Comments: German casualties

Talk:Home Army/Archive 6#Request for Comments: German casualties: watchers here may comment.--JoeZ451 (talk) 16:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

I think Romania could, briefly in 1916, be classified as a Great Power. Let me explain.

This is mostly due to the fact that Austria-Hungary was a Great Power at the time. During the Battle of Transylvania, The Romanian Army occupied - at peak - a quarter of the region's territory (~15,000 square km). On 29 August, Brasov and Targu Secuiesc - urban centers even at the time - were both occupied, and held well into October. Thus Romania, a minor power, managed to occupy a sizable chunk of what was officially Great Power territory, with important settlements, for a sizable amount of time (5+| weeks and a whole calendar month, September 1916) and using entirely its own forces (no Great Power force aided the Romanians in Transylvania). I'm not sure what label to put on this, but it's certainly fascinating (to me at least), and I have yet to learn of a similar feat of another minor power. Romania was not a Great Power per se, but for over a month in 1916 a sizable amount of officially Great Power territory with urban settlements was under complete, unassisted Romanian control. To me that's just...wow. I mean it's certainly unique. Transylvania1916 (talk) 11:04, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

That would be original research. Your argument is more compelling in regards to de-rating Austria-Hungary as a great power in 1916. It certainly was not one in 1918. Similar arguments could be made for Russia, the Ottoman empire, and any number of great powers (going back to the Roman Empire) in their final (or weaker years) in which they succumbed to rebellions or external threats. Eostrix (talk) 08:30, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Not really. In any case, not really going to do anything without the required sources - obviously - but I'm just saying: no minor power in WW1 occupied more core land from a Great Power, with such important settlements, and for such an extended period of time, as Romania. I mean I at least, haven't found anything to compare this to, and believe me - I've searched. For all intents and purposes, for over 1 month and an entire calendar month (September 1916), Romania occupied what was officially Great Power territory, with multiple urban centers. A fact proven by multiple sources. Transylvania1916 (talk) 09:49, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

New infobox for communes, towns and municipalities

Hi, I made a new infobox for communes, towns and municipalities in Romania, {{Infobox Romanian subdivision}}. It uses the 2011 population census data provided by wikidata, but it can also show manual population data, for instance if more recent data are available. I've implemented it in a few articles for now, see for instance Abrud and Rădești, Galați. If you have any suggestions for improvement, just let me know. Markussep Talk 15:54, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Skyline_image is really only used for a depiction of the town to be honest. Editoneer (talk) 06:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Locality categorization by historical subdivisions

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Your input about the categorization of settlements is requested at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC: Locality categorization by historical subdivisions. Thank you, Renata (talk) 22:33, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

What on Earth is "Duș"?

I came across this "town", as they call it, in my work on the 1916 Battle of Transylvania, and its numerous military engagements. I've had thus far no issues in figuring out the place names, and identify them on the Wiki in order to include them in articles. But this one has me stumped. Just...what is Duș? Why can't I find it on the Wiki? Why can't I find it even on Google Maps? What is this place? I've only seen it mentioned in one book, and it appears in this post-war Austrian map (just look towards the west, in the vertical middle of the map). Can anyone help me out with this, please? Transylvania1916 (talk) 07:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

I didn't quite find this myself, but if you are looking for a translation instead it means "Shower". Anyways I also gone to search it on Google Maps and no results, are there references about his town? If not, please remove the information. Editoneer (talk) 08:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
A book in English mentions its existence, and the map I already provided, which is from 1932, does the same. That's why I'm puzzled. Transylvania1916 (talk) 12:55, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
It seems to exist, see this map of the Cindrel Mountains, which shows two mountain cabins called "Sub Duși" and "La Duși", on the ridge between the rivers Râul Mic and Dobra, south of the village Crinț and the town Săliște (Szelistye on your map). Approximate location 45°41′35″N 23°47′56″E / 45.6930°N 23.7988°E / 45.6930; 23.7988. Doesn't really look like a town. Markussep Talk 14:22, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Transylvania1916 (talk) 14:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. Editoneer (talk) 18:24, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

One more question

On the same map I provided, just east of Hermannstadt, there's a height identified as "Gregori B.". Real/present name, please? Transylvania1916 (talk) 05:08, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

This hill is just north of a sharp curve in the road from Hermannstadt (Sibiu) to Rothberg (Roșia). I found this on wikimapia, apparently it's now called Dealul Gușteriței (hill of Gușterița). On another map it's called Dealul Pădurii, but that sounds rather generic, "forest hill". Markussep Talk 07:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

What's the deal with Sibiu/Hermannstadt during the Battle of Transylvania?

One of the most confusing aspects of my research, is the Romanian occupation of this city during the Battle of Transylvania in 1916.

Some sources do not even state that the city was occupied, but I found the likely reason for this. I have multiple sources that attest a Romanian occupation of the city on 2 September 1916, including the New York Times newspaper issued on the following day. The reason why this place is stated as unoccupied by some sources is the sheer briefness of the occupation. The International Military Digest shed light on this by stating that while Romanian advanced troops occupied the city on 2 September, they evacuated the place on the following day, so, 1-day occupation - very easy to overlook, you blink and you miss it, as they say. What makes this scenario all but certain is that Erich Ludendorff himself states this in his memoirs: "Kronstadt and Petrozseny, with their coal mines, were occupied as early as August 29. Rumanian patrols were soon seen in Hermannstadt.". I find "soon" to be an acceptable description of the 29 August to 2 September time span, so this scenario is most likely the case. But, it isn't all...

In a WW1 almanac, I found a statement that Sibiu was occupied by Romanian Army on 6 September, but no further details. I paid little mind to this, since it was just a single source...Until recently when I found a second one which says the same thing. Thus, this scenario became a somewhat legitimate contender for the 2 September one. As a side note, I looked over some maps of the area during that time. The Romanians occupied villages astride Sibiu, to both east and west. A horizontal line drawn between two such points cuts off the southern half/third of the city as it appears on the map, and I highly doubt that the Romanians went out of their way to avoid going through the city. As a note, all these above-mentioned sources use the name "Hermannstadt".

So why all the fuss? Cause Sibiu is kind of a big deal, as a former capital of Transylvania. It is practically certain that Romanians occupied it, sources that state otherwise failed to notice the 1-day Romanian occupation on 2-3 September, as well as the NYT edition of the following day and Ludendorff's own statement in his memoirs. Southern chunks of it were almost certainly occupied by the Romanians afterwards, but to what extent and for how long, I don't know. The 6 September scenario is still largely a mystery to me. If anyone can help bring more clarity to this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Transylvania1916 (talk) 13:32, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Romanian colonialism

Hello, lately I've been thinking of a somewhat unusual project. One day I was randomly surfing the web when I came across an alternate history map ([1] and there's also this one, [2]) that said Bazil Assan, a Romanian explorer, once claimed islands in the Pacific, in modern day Kiribati, although the project failed because King Carol I was not interested in financing it. The free-access information about this explorer is few, and I could not find anything about this supposed project. It is possible that something is available in this article (link is for some reason not working now, maybe later it works again) published by him on his trip around the world, but I have read it a bit and could not find anything. Could someone help me find information about this?

And in case something is found about this alleged claim, could it be possible to create an article about Romanian colonialism? There is already an article on colonization attempts by Poland. Perhaps the Romanian concession in Sarandë or even the acquisition of Dobruja or Southern Dobruja to Romania (which was seen as an act of colonization by many Romanian contemporaries) could be added. Romania has also made several expeditions, to the Arctic, to Antartica and to Africa (Prima expediție românească transafricană). Thanks! Super Ψ Dro 22:20, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Category:Demographics of the Western Balkans has been nominated for discussion

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Assistance in translation sought

See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history#Second_Battle_of_Oituz. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:37, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

"Rasci"?

I found this location in a book about WW1. Pretty sure it's a miss-spelled name, as I wasn't able to find anything when I searched for it. The book says that this place is near Baia de Arama somewhere. Ca anyone help? Transylvania1916 (talk) 07:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Did Romania enter Pui in WW1?

I have this English source here, which states: "Rumanian outposts advanced even as far as Puj". But did they enter it, though? The reason this is somewhat of a big deal is that Pui was a district capital at the time. And I'm just not sure what "advanced as far as" entails, I mean is it safe to assume that they entered it? Because if they did, then the Romanian 1st Army would have entered 4 district capitals, instead of 3. Can any Romanian-language sources or otherwise clear things up? Furthermore, this Austrian post-war map shows that on 14 September the main line of the Central Powers in the region was just outside Pui, to the northwest of it. This leaves room for the possibility that said outposts did enter it. But I'd like clarification. Transylvania1916 (talk) 07:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Where was Dumitru Stratilescu born?

I'm currently gathering resources for an English article for General Dumitru Stratilescu. Can anyone please name his place of birth, preferably with a source? Transylvania1916 (talk) 17:19, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Etymology of Basarab's name

An IP editor claims that the "autochthonous", "possibly Daco-Thracian" origin of Basarab the Founder's name is widely accepted by Romanian historians ([3]). The editor also claims that the theory about the Turkic origin of the name was proposed by Neagu Djuvara. The editor refers to Sorin Paliga's book to verify these statements. 1. I think the "autochthonous" origin of Basarab's name is a marginal (rather fringe) theory. I have not read other book or article published in English (written either by a Romanian or by a non-Romanian historian) that contains reference to the autochthonous origin of Basarab's claim. 2. I think the statement that Romanian historians have accepted Paliga's etymology is unverified. 3. I think the statement that Djuvara was the first to propose a Turkic etymology is also unverified. All comments are welcome at the article's Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 05:45, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Romanians! I just created the above article, and according to some sources I found, this dog is supposed to have had some media coverage in Romania. Apparently he and his owner visited Cluj University. [4]

So, helpful editors, is there any good WP:RS coverage you can dig up for me? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Hi, there are a lot of Romanian sources if you google for "câinele Kratu". The Romanian public television has an article about their visit to the University of Cluj. Mediafax news agency also has an article and here you can find an interview with the dog's owner, taken in Cluj. I hope it helps. --Nenea hartia (talk) 10:05, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you VERY much. I'll look into these, and if I have any language questions, I'll bother you again. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Nenea hartia Thanks again, I used the sources in the article. Google translate is not perfect (apparently Kratu used to be a chicken), but often it's pretty good. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
@Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Haha, I've noticed :D. Please read "puppy" or - even better - "cub", instead of "chicken". As strange as this might sound, we are using the same word "pui" in Romanian for both cubs and chicken :D. I'm glad I could help. And thank you very much for the beer! --Nenea hartia (talk) 20:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Featured list

Maybe somebody in this project is interested in helping out here.--Strainu (talk) 00:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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Draft:Romanian colonisation of the Northern Carpathians

What do you guys think of Draft:Romanian colonisation of the Northern Carpathians? This is a recently created article, but it got moved to draftspace for what I see as largely spurious reasons. However, I'm weary of promoting it back as an article unless someone with knowledge of the topic can confirm there aren't any major problems with the content. – Uanfala (talk) 17:21, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Romanian numbers

Please can a native speaker review recent IP changes to Romanian numbers? Some look credible; others by the same IP are random text. Thanks, Certes (talk) 12:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Changes are now reverted and the IP blocked. (I reverted their edits elsewhere but wasn't sure about this case.) Certes (talk) 00:36, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Crown from Marie's coronation

I don't know what to make of [5] this, and neither Regalia of Romania nor anything else I can find online clarifies whether this statement by an IP is true or not. Commons does not have en-wiki's standard of referencing: we don't delete just because something is unreferenced, but should certainly delete if false and modify the description if true. I'm pretty certain my statement that the original is lost was based on the wall text at the Maryhill Museum. Does anyone know the collection at the National History Museum (IP who posted doesn't say which, but the main one in Bucharest seems a safe bet) well enough to say definitively whether they have the original? I've been there a couple of times, none recently, and beyond the Trajan's Column replica & a few other large inscribed stones (and the philatelic collection, and a few memorable portraits) I'd be hard pressed to say what's there, and certainly couldn't be confident that something isn't. I could phone up Maryhill to confirm the wall text, if that's any use. - Jmabel | Talk 15:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Women in Red Europe contest

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FAR notice

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Highest railway in Romania?

If you know the answer, make sure to add it to relevant wiki pages, especially to List of highest railways by country. Thanks! Zach (Talk) 21:21, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Article on Michael the Brave's 1600 personal union?

Hello!

I'd like to ask you guys what you think about the possibility of making an article specifically dedicated to the three Romanian principalities' personal union created by Michael the Brave in 1600.

I'm aware that there is probably not that much stuff to say about this political entity, much of it probably already being on the Michael the Brave article. However, there might be enough for a separate article, which would include sections like "Demographics" and an infobox about the three countries united. This, of course, only if there are enough sources for at least approximate versions of such numbers/facts.

Why would we make such an article? Well, mostly to spread awareness about this political entity, which could be viewed as a predecessor of modern-day Romania. Please ping me if you reply; I haven't been very active lately. Cheers! Lupishor (talk) 18:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Lupishor, I actually thought of that long ago too. I don't believe it's possible but it is worth trying. We could make it like Dual monarchy of England and France, perhaps. Although we should make sure there actually are several sources out there dedicated to studying the 1600 personal union before anything, and from what I've been able to find in Google Scholar, there's not too many. Super Ψ Dro 19:37, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer, Super Dro! I guess we could get something nice in the infobox, showing the map of Europe at 1600 with the three principalities highlighted in green. Michael's seal would probably work for the flag/coat of arms section.
With currently available sources, "Background", "Formation" and "Fall" sections would probably be easy to create. For "Demographics", although numbers aren't exact and vary highly, I think we could use sources from History of Transylvania. A "Legacy" section is probably neither needed nor possible; it already exists on Michael's article, though. Maybe a "Most important settlements" section can also be added; I see that at least some of Romania's cities have numbers of their 16th/17th centuries populations listed on their articles.
Not too many sources and content possibilities, but probably still enough for a decent-looking article. :) Lupishor (talk) 20:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
I believe a Legacy section would be more useful than a Demographics one, although there's no reason to not include both. So, when and where would we try this out? Super Ψ Dro 21:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

I guess we should just create the article and enlarge + improve it in time. Would be nice if others joined as well. As to when: as soon as possible, why not?

What should we call it, though? "Romanian Principalities personal union (1599-1600)"? Lupishor (talk) 21:34, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

I would prefer to use a draft first just in case we realize there's not enough information available. I would wait some time to see if someone else joins. Regarding the name, it could just be "Personal union of Wallachia, Transylvania and Moldavia". Using something like "Romanian Principalities" when including Transylvania might not be considered neutral. Super Ψ Dro 21:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, I get your point, since Transylvania was mostly ruled by Hungarians and can certainly be considered a Hungarian state. However, it can also be called a "Romanian principality" in the way that its population was mostly Romanian. Especially in this particular case, where Transylvania was ruled by a Romanian prince, I don't see a problem with calling it a Romanian principality. We'll have to see what others think. Lupishor (talk) 22:50, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Be aware that simply collating various disparate facts from reliable sources goes against Wikipedia policy. The source has to discuss those facts in the context of the subject or in reference to it. Hopefully, recent sources should be used (use of Balcescu should be limited mostly to the legacy section for example).Anonimu (talk) 09:02, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Romanian name of Nyíregyháza, Hungary?

A supposed Romanian name of Nyíregyháza, Mestecănești, can be found on different places on the internet, including Google Maps, some Romanian websites and on Wikipedia articles in some languages, including English until not too long ago. It's nothing recent, originating from at least 2007 – here you can see a user of Romanian Wikipedia asking about the origin of another variant that appeared on ro.wikipedia, Mestecăniș.

The problem is that I haven't found any historical source referring to this name. Yet, somehow, it's so widespread that it's even used on Google Maps. The name Nyíregyháza comes from nyír, the Hungarian word for "birch". So does the German name Birkenkirchen (from Brike), as well as the supposed Romanian name – mesteacăn is Romanian for "birch". The name, however, looks like a recent creation, since Romanian variants of Hungarian toponyms are always similar-sounding: Debrecen → Debrețin, Békéscsaba → Bichișciaba, Gyula → Giula etc. Also, Mestecănești contains the -ești suffix, typical for places in Wallachia and Moldavia, but rare in Transylvania.

Does anyone know how this name came into being and whether there are reliable sources on it? I've asked the same question on WikiProject:Hungary. Cheers! Lupishor (talk) 19:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

The Enciclopedia română (1904) does not mention a Romanian name in its article about Nyíregyháza (p. 428), nor in its article about Szabolcs (pp. 1051-2). For comparison, it does have an article Debrețin (p. 111). Markussep Talk 07:16, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
You would have better results and viewership if you posted this at the WP:Reference desk. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 08:52, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
@Markussep: Thanks! Ironically, however, despite mentioning no Romanian name at the Szabolcs county entry, a Romanian name of the county is mentioned at the Nyíregyháza entry, namely Sabolci (there spelled as Sabolciu in an outdated Latinized orthography). Lupishor (talk) 12:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed. It is possible that another name for the city is used in an article about e.g. a person who was born there. BTW the supposed German name Birkenkirchen is not mentioned in Meyers Konversations-Lexikon (1880s-1890s). Markussep Talk 12:47, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Expert needed on medieval history

Hi, does anyone here have an opinion on the problem I raised on Kalinikia? Cheers, --GrandEscogriffe (talk) 17:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Can anyone help me find the Romanian company privatized to foreign control in 1993?

This is significant because no such thing happened up to that point. In 1993, Romania privatized its first company to foreign control. In 1994, one more was, but I know this one: Rodae. I wish to know the 1993 one though, because it was the first. I got the number of these companies from here. As you can see there is one company in 1993 and one in 1994. Please help me find the 1993 one. Transylvania1916 (talk) 21:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

ROC and Iron Guard

Hi everyone. I pretty much finished expanding the Relationship between the Romanian Orthodox Church and the Iron Guard. I might bring some minor improvements in the next few days but nothing major until mid August. So if anyone wants to go over it, copy edit, review or do whatever wikistuff needs to be done, please do so. Regards, Plinul cel tanar (talk) 16:58, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Joseph Szigeti

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Ivan Alexander of Bulgaria FAR

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New articles

Hey guys!

I've recently created Romania-related articles like R-1 tank and AB md. 41, but they have not (yet?) been marked as being within the scope of WP Romania. Since I am not a member of the project, I am not sure whether I am allowed to add that tag to the talk page, so I'd thought I'd rather ask here. Please ping me if you answer. Kind regards, Lupishor (talk) 18:24, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Lupishor. Yes, you're allowed to add WikiProject templates to any article at its talk page whether you are a member of that WikiProject or not. There's not any kind of restriction, this applying to all WikiProjects at all cases. You're also allowed to put the importance and class parameters and tag them as you consider correct (there's in fact nobody more appropiate to do this than the writer themselves, as they will be aware of how important a certain issue is after having researched about it). Super Ψ Dro 19:26, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Got it, thanks for the help Dro! Lupishor (talk) 19:29, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Relationship between the Romanian Orthodox Church and the Iron Guard

Hi. I significantly expanded the article since it was rated B-class and I do believe it's at least GA (maybe even A-class?) now but would really appreciate if someone more experienced took a look before I officially submit it for review. Plinul cel tanar (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Looking for Romanian etymology source

Hi, the article Dominus (title) which I just got finished heavily revising contained mention of the Romanian word for God, Dumnezeu being derived from the title through the Latin "Domine Deus." I'd assume any authoritative source that can be found will be in Romanian, a language I do not speak. If someone here could assist in citing the statement, it'd be much appreciated. Dimitriye98 (talk) 11:48, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Done. Super Ψ Dro 14:29, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Dimitriye98 (talk) 02:21, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Night Attack at Târgoviște

Most sources present the Night Attack at Târgoviște as a Wallachian victory but the article says it was inconclusive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:B07:6469:985D:1543:BCC2:6DE0:F838 (talk) 23:33, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Ion Antonescu as an Albanian from Romania, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians_of_Romania

I've watched the page about the albanians from Romania and i saw that Ion Antonescu was there, the only sources backing this claim are of fringe theories coming from unreliable journals or radios, actual historiography doesn't mention any albanian ancestor of him. I request if you can give a look at it. Sources: 1) https://books.google.it/books?vid=ISBN9780198221265&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y&hl=it#v=onepage&q&f=false 2) https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9780230502093_3 3) https://archive.org/details/romaniancassandr00watt/page/390/mode/2up 4) https://books.google.it/books?redir_esc=y&hl=it&id=8taGDAAAQBAJ&q=antonescu#v=snippet&q=middle-class%20family&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:B07:6469:985D:3177:EED6:6C88:C625 (talk) 22:56, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

I removed the claim since apparently only two scholars claim this and only in newspaper interviews as far as I know. Maybe this will be more talked on in the future but it seems like a fringe view at the moment. Super Ψ Dro 17:58, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Peer review requested

I would highly appreciate all comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Kingdom of Hungary (1000–1301)/archive3. Borsoka (talk) 02:59, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Request for FAC reviews

The Edict of Torda, the first law to sanction the existence of a radical denomination in Europe, is currently a FA candidate and it needs comprehensive reviews. Thank you for your time and work. Borsoka (talk) 03:50, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Asking for a 3rd opinion on Gelou

Hi, I'm asking for a 3rd opinion about the relevance of adding a mention of King Peter's coin in an article about the Vlach duke Gelou.

The article in question is this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelou
The edit in question is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gelou&diff=1062479851&oldid=1062477853
The talk is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gelou (under "King Peter and Gelou")
We asked for a 3rd opinion 13 days ago but nobody came - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AThird_opinion&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=1062479770&oldid=1062345421

I would appreciate if anyone can come and offer their opinion. It's a question of whether adding a mention of King Peter's coins is relevant to the article or not. The arguments of both sides are present on the talk page. Thank you. TheGoldAge (talk) 10:14, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Vlachs#Requested move 6 January 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 14:49, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Please help me

Greetings,

Hi, I am User:Bookku, my expectations to get expanded Black sea related articles failed miserably. I am expecting and requesting at least some help in expanding the article Draft:List of erstwhile slave trading townships with regions surrounding Black sea. In next steps I wish to have a proper map showing erstwhile slave trading townships across black sea.

Thanks and warm regards

Bookku, 'Encyclopedias = expanding information & knowledge' (talk) 09:58, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Sana

If anyone can give a little help at Draft:Sana (drink), that would be great. This appears to be a notable drink, but the sources provided aren't sufficient and we need someone who can pull up Romanian sources. valereee (talk) 21:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Iron Gates Mesolithic

Hi, I've been editing the Iron Gates Mesolithic wikipedia stub page for a few weeks for a university assignment and have written about 2000 words on it. Was wondering if anyone could give it a look and give me some feedback on how to improve it by any chance? Thanks. Kerm22 (talk) 07:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

List articles for 1965 and 1966 in Romania

Editors here are welcome to add more content to list articles 1965 in Romania and 1966 in Romania that I recently created. JoeNMLC (talk) 23:03, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

Discussion - combine Romania year templates

While updating Romania years, I found these four templates.

Just for fun, I combined these above in my sandbox here. Rather than being bold, I invite discussion. Please let me know yes/no/maybe to implement this combined year template. JoeNMLC (talk) 13:19, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

To install combined template
  1. Prepare Redirect for first 3 above templates
  2. Update "Years in Romania" template from sandbox
  3. Update first 3 templates with Redirect
  4. Review years, ce remove Year with two templates
Found these so far:
Timeline of Romanian history   List of years in Romania
1947 in Romania
1965 in Romania   1966 in Romania   1989 in Romania
JoeNMLC (talk) 14:56, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
 Done - JoeNMLC (talk) 16:10, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

It would be really useful to get some Romanian-speaking eyes on this article, which is up for deletion. Most of the current sources are difficult for English-speakers to judge. GoldenRing (talk) 15:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

FAR for Vampire

I have nominated Vampire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 16:45, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Thought on categories Eastern Orthodoxy /Far-right/ Iron guard

Currently [Category:Iron Guard] is treated as a subset of [Category:Eastern Orthodoxy and far-right politics]. This maybe somehow confusing when dealing with the odd Catholic member of the Iron Guard... I would have maybe created [Category:Romanian Orthodox Church and Iron Guard] as an intersection of two distinct sets: [Category:Iron Guard] and [Category:Eastern Orthodoxy and far-right politics]. It's not that big a deal... just a thought... Plinul cel tanar (talk) 08:00, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Could be a bit excessive and specific in my opinion. I think a better option could be to also include a Catholic and far-right politics category if there is any. Super Ψ Dro 16:27, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
It might be too specific, granted... On the other hand the the category would have a main article (Relationship between the Romanian Orthodox Church and the Iron Guard) and, potentially, on the long term, dozens of articles given the huge number of clergymen to have been active in the organization. As wikipedia taxonomy stands now, any [Iron Guard] article is automatically in a subset of [Eastern Orthodoxy and far-right politics] including the one about the Greek-Catholic Ion Gavrilă Ogoranu. Plinul cel tanar (talk) 17:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Moscopole#Requested_move_9_October_2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.Alexikoua (talk) 00:30, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

I have nominated Borat for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Wretchskull (talk) 18:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I would like to join the Project Romania

Hello, I would like to join the project, how do I join? I can contribute a lot to history as I'm a student looking to become a historian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by QuidditchCup53 (talkcontribs) 18:36, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Radu Dan Constantinescu

Radu Dan Constantinescu was created for pay. It seems like the topic is non-notable, but I think it would be better if someone could check local sources, including offline work and clean-up it a bit. Thank you. 74.15.64.107 (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Balkan Latinity WikiProject

Hello, I've been thinking for a while of an idea for a new and certainly needed WikiProject. The Aromanians/Vlachs, Megleno-Romanians/Meglenites and Istro-Romanians/Ćiribirci are poorly known peoples in the Balkans, the only ones that are Romance-speaking apart of the Romanians. Tagging pages related to these with WikiProject templates can turn problematic, see this talk page for example [6], saturated with 7 different templates. I was thus thinking that giving them their own WikiProject could increase organization on Wikipedia about info on these peoples and increase their representation in the project, perhaps even attracting members of these groups into working at Wikipedia. The project could be split into three task forces for each of the three.

If you're interested, please ping me here or message me on my talk page. Expressing your interest in the existence of such a project is enough, you will not be compromised or pressured into working in a topic area you might lose interest to soon. After (if) I recruit enough support, I will start a formal proposal and ping you there. Regards, Super Ψ Dro 20:51, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

@Super DromaeosaurusI'm still brand new at attempting to edit anything here, but I'm happy to help if I can. I can help with cleaning up some of the Greek language pages, so they're to the standard you'd expect to see on Wikipedia and not "my papou forgot what century it was & is ranting at the wall" Vialitsa (talk) 11:16, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Vialitsa, any help is welcome. For now, you can support this project by voting for its creation here [7]. Once it is created it will be easier to give more aims and directions to members of the project. Super Ψ Dro 11:22, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Oh perfect, I'm getting up to speed with the contributor standards & how to navigate! Vialitsa (talk) 12:36, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

There is a survey at Talk:Catholic_Church_in_Romania#Survey that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Biruitorul Talk 06:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Regulamentul Organic

User:Buidhe has nominated Regulamentul Organic for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:41, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Battle of Baia

Battle of Baia has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Hog Farm Talk 21:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ordinariate for Catholics of Armenian Rite in Romania#Requested move 25 August 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 14:28, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Lake or Lacul?

Do we replace Lacul with Lake? Xx236 (talk) 08:54, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Lake for actual lakes, Lacul for untranslatable names (e.g. Lacu Sărat). Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 09:00, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon

Hello WikiProject Romania:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a month-long Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme Around the World in 31 Days! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least 31 countries (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there!

Grnrchst (talk) 13:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

PCR women's organizations

There's a merge discussion at Talk:Union of Antifascist Women of Romania, at which it would be great to have Romanian expertise :) Dsp13 (talk) 12:44, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Byzantine Empire Featured article review

I have nominated Byzantine Empire for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Stadionul Cimentul#Requested move 19 January 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)