User talk:Dannyboy1209

Hello, Dannyboy1209, and Welcome to Wikipedia! Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Also, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Franamax (talk) 20:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC) Getting started Introduction The five pillars of Wikipedia How to edit a page Intuitive guide to Wikipedia Finding your way around Table of contents Department directory Editing articles How to develop an article Manual of Style Getting help Frequently asked questions Cheatsheet Where to ask a question Help pages New contributors' help page Article Wizard - a Wizard to help you create articles How you can help Contributing to Wikipedia Community Portal Follow Wikipedia etiquette Practice civility

Template parameters

A use of a template can only use those parameters that are already coded into the template. Other parameters are ignored. {{Infobox user}} has no parameter called age. It has a parameter called birthdate. But like others at Wikipedia:Help desk#"Template loop detected", I suggest you don't reveal your birthdate or age. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:09, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Birthday

I'm sorry, but I had to remove your birthday as you are not of legal age yet where you live, and wikipedia does not allow minors to post that kind of information about themselves for safety reasons. Thank you for understanding. -- Avi (talk) 22:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

What is the legal age and what are you talking about? Dannyboy1209 (talk) 16:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

16 years old in Scotland (see Minor_(law)#United Kingdom, you are younger than that. Please do not restore the information. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 19:57, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Shut up! It's my age! If I want to show it, then I will show it ok! No more changing my page! Ok!

I'm sorry, Danny, but you are under a misconception. The user page is not yours, it belongs to the project. Please see Wikipedia:User page for more details. I have had to lock down the page until such time as you understand that editing on wikipedia is allowed because you agreed to abide by its rules, and not allowing a minor's personal information is one of those rules. Please discuss this with your parents, I am certain they will be able to explain it to you. Also, if it is found that you disregard these rules, measures may have to be taken to protect the integrity of the project, which may include loss of editing privileges. I am sorry. -- Avi (talk) 20:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Could you please let me edit this page? I was the one who created it so I should be able to edit it. Thankyou, Daniel

Dannyboy, if you will promise not to display your age or birthdate -anywhere- on-wiki, we can lift the page protection. You need to understand that your edits weren't just reverted, they were oversighted, that means they were removed from Wikipedia altogether by a very senior administrator. That's how seriously we take this. It's very important that you understand and accept that we're not going to let you show information that we think might end up causing you harm. You also need to understand that this is not Facebook, you don't "own" any pages, even your own user pages. Everyone has to work together here and observe the rules. If you can agree to all that, I can lift the page protection for you.

On another subject, please remember to sign your talk page posts with four tildes (~~~~) and it's best to not use a space at the beginning of a line, it puts your text into a box like you see above. Franamax (talk) 00:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I should own my user page. Maybe Wikipedia should be more like Facebook. I really don't understand the rules of Wikipedia. I'd like my page unprotected from me. I would also like to be autoconfirmed since I have made well over 10 edits.Dannyboy1209 (talk) 20:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Danny, wikipedia is definitely NOT facebook. I suggest you read the following page: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. If you have difficulty, please get your parents or an older sibling to explain it to you. This is an encyclopedia, not a social website, and thus it has different rules. Editors who do not agree to follow those rules may have their editing privileges revoked. I'm sorry that you find this frustrating, but there are certain rules that need to be followed here. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 23:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Accounts must both have 10 edits and be 4 days old to become autoconfirmed. Your account creation is here. Your user page is fully protected and not semi-protected, so it can only be edited by administrators. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

For the 3rd time, could I have my user page unprotected please!?!? Also I have made well over 10 edits and My account was created a few days ago. Dannyboy1209 (talk) 18:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Not until you confirm that you will no longer be posting your birthday or any other personal information. -- Avi (talk) 18:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok but I really want my page unprotected. Please can I be autoconfirmed I have over 40 edits and have been on wikipedia for almost 4 days now. Dannyboy1209 (talk) 19:02, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Very well, I will unprotect your page. However, any further violation of wikipedia policy, especially regarding personal information about a minor, will likely result in both the re-locking of the page and a removal of your editing privileges. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 21:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Can I please be autoconfirmed????????????

I believe you already are. -- Avi (talk) 19:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Logos

Hello, Danny.

Logos of companies are usually under copyright, and thus only usable on wikipedia for purposes that are protected as fair use. using the logo of a company to show things you enjoy on a wikipedia userpage is not considered legal fair use, so you will need to remove them, I am afraid. Please remember, Wikipedia is NOT facebook, we are not a site that people should be using to talk about themselves; it is allowed only as much as it would help you and other editors collaborate with you to build the encyclopedia. Please realize that your userpage may be deleted if it is ruled to be out-of-scope of the project. Once again, I suggest you read Wikipedia:User page, or have someone read it and explain it to you. Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 20:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Those are not from a company Dannyboy1209 (talk) 20:24, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Look at the image page, they are under copyright. One of them even has the copyright (c) on it! -- Avi (talk) 21:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the violations. I highly suggest you ask a parent or sibling to explain these rules to you, otherwise, to protect the wikipedia project, pages may be locked and editing privileges removed. I'm sorry, but this is NOT a free webhost or social website, and the sooner you understand it, the less likely you will be to run afoul of our rules. -- Avi (talk) 21:54, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Snow12.jpg

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Orphaned non-free image File:Redqd.jpg

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Please do not redirect other people's userpages

I see earlier today that you redirected my page to your own, with the edit summary "Your fault for redirecting", by which I assume you were either thinking you could pretend to be me and redirect my userpage page to your own, or you were reffering to this. Firstly, it is unhelpful to make changes such as these to other people's userpages. Secondly, you blanked the page on Muirikirk railway station, which was restored by another user, who correctly stated that "if it needs an article, please write one. But blanking things causes problems and is generally not the correct thing to do." Please do not disrupt Wikipedia again, as other editors might not be as lenient as myself. WackyWace ^{you talkin' to me?} 18:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

February 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Stuart Ashen has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Snowolf ^{How can I help?} 19:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Stuart Ashen, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. TexasAndroid (talk) 19:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

My Reason Was Valid — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyboy1209 (talk • contribs)

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Stuart Ashen. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. DVdm (talk) 19:43, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

For petes sake, I just want a placeholder, until I can create a proper article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyboy1209 (talk • contribs)

We don't do placeholders here. If we did, the place would quickly fill up with placeholders. Either you write an article or you do not. A placeholder is not a valid option. Also, be aware that there has previously been an article there, and it was deleted as not meeting notability guidelines. See here for the previous deletion discussion. I can provide you with a user-space draft of the previous article, if that will help you as a starting place. But keep in mind, unless you can provide better evidence of notability than was previously there, your new article is not likely to remain for long. You now have the attention of several other editors (and admins) with this placeholder fight, so anything you do finally write is likely to get a close examination. - TexasAndroid (talk) 20:25, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I would like a user space draft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyboy1209 (talk • contribs)

It is available at User:Dannyboy1209/Stuart Ashen. This is a copy of the last state of the page before it was deleted. Keep in mind, if you use this as a starting place, you need to get the WP:NOTE of the subject much, much better established before the article will have a chance at remaining on the project, given that it's already been deleted once for lack of notability. Please read WP:BIO for general information on notability criteria for biographical articles. - TexasAndroid (talk) 21:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

I have fixed the article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyboy1209 (talk • contribs)

No, no you have not. You have copied back into place exactly the same article that was previously deleted, which is now subject to deletion again as a recreation of previously deleted material. I see not a single new/additional source added to bring it to meet the requirements of [{WP:BIO]]. I'm trying to help you here, I really am. The article, as it stands, *will* be deleted, soon, as a recreation. Cut&pasting the old article right back into place is not helping your cause in the slightest. Sigh. - TexasAndroid (talk) 21:47, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

• Your repeated edits to this page in attempts to mark it as a placeholder were disruptive, whether intentionally or not. It is possible that at first you were acting in good faith, not realising that Wikipedia does not work like that, but you persisted in doing it after warnings. The article you finally posted there was unsuitable for several reasons, including the fact that it was a repost of an article which had previously been deleted as a result of a consensus at a deletion discussion. You clearly were aware of that fact. You also stated "I have fixed the article" when you must have known perfectly well that you had done nothing of the sort. You are welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, but please do so in cooperation with other editors, and do not attempt to push your own edits in the face of consensus against you, otherwise you will be blocked from editing. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Faithless article

Hi, How come you removed the info about Faithless calling it a day? It was accurate and referenced as far as I could see... Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 18:27, 18 March 2011 (UTC) I decided to adjust the article

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Faithless, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Dylanfromthenorth (talk) 16:39, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

April Fools' Day

I explained in my edit summary that I removed the list because it's an WP:EXAMPLEFARM. Please do not make a mass undo like that unless you explain why you're doing it — preferably in the edit summary and/or the talk page. Just 'undo revision by x' is not explaining, and it gives the illusion of disruption. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 19:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Citroen Xsara Picasso (Car)

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November 2011

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Sparthorse (talk) 20:02, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Children in need 2011

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Non-free files in your user space

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Im A celeb ratings

As you previosuly suggested I have added the ratings of all the episodes for I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (UK series 11). Thanks for the suggestion and your continued support on making Wikipedia articles the best they can be Bruno Russell (talk) 13:39, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

You RFA

Hey there Danny! It looks like you just tried, and failed, to transclude your RFA. If I could take this time to suggest that maybe you should reconsider running. With only 231* edits, of which only 59 are to Article space, I doubt you'll receive even a single vote in support. It's nothing personal, we just need to see more experience before trusting you with the tools. I hope you understand. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 18:54, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

You were also hosting some non-free images in your Sandbox, which I've taken the liberty of removing. Achowat (talk) 18:59, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

*250 now For I identify myself as drt2012

(talk) 20:29, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

And with comments like this "All work here and on the sandbox copyright Daniel Tennant 2012" on your user page, there is strong evidence that you may not understand something so basic to WP as "By clicking the "Save Page" button, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL. You agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license." As you have also stated in your RFA that your User page is your best work, this is worrying. Bielle (talk) 19:03, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually there is nothing wrong with that sentence because releasing them under a CC license does not mean he has lost the copy rights for his contributions. He still has the copy rights and they require anyone copying the work to give attribution by a hyperlink. He also has the right to release his work further into public domain. If he said "all rights reserved", that would be a different story. --lTopGunl (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, but I've closed your RFA, as it was obvious it was not going to succeed. Take a look at WP:NOTNOW for some useful information on too-early RFA requests. As a side note, you've been editing disruptively lately, and need to focus less on adminship and more on editing collaboratively. If you need this clarified, ask here. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:00, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

May 2012

Your recent editing history at Recurring jokes in The Simpsons shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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Talkback

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Your recent edits

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Some reading for you

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Glaisnock Water

Don't forget that although you know it's in Scotland, anyone landing on the page by hitting the "Random" button won't know it. I've cleaned the article up a bit. Thanks for starting it off. PamD 17:10, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi!

Thank you for your interest in editing Wikipedia. However, I noticed that you have been creating articles without an appropiate stub template, which are also reference-less. Please could you add references to the articles. Feel free to remove this — if you are going to fix the articles. Tomtomn00 (talk • contributions) 18:56, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Stuart ashen

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Time to take a break

Dannyboy, your edits are really starting to get disruptive. You have to stop creating articles like Stuart ashen, which are not within our criteria for inclusion. Right now, irritations on all sides are on the rise, and you need to disengage. If you don't it's likely you will end up blocked. Please take this as well meant advice, it is really looking like your started off in a bad way, and are slipping down to even worse behaviour, but you're still in time to turn it around if you take advice to heart. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Note too that I've deleted the talk page you subsequently created (Talk:Stuart Ashen, with capital-A for ashen) as we don't allow talk pages for non-existent articles. To answer your question there, the reasons that page has been deleted so many times are given in the deletion log for that page. You can ask at our help desk what those log entries mean. I do hope you take all the advice people are giving you here to heart, slow down, and ask more questions rather than ploughing ahead the way you have. Regards! Franamax (talk) 22:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse!

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Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

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Ashens

{{Help me}} Why is Stuart Ashen deleted so much and what does a7 mean. Also, why should I give a damn if Dr Ashen is significant or not. He is a famous youtube star. Isnt he.

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on User talk:Logan. Please comment on the content and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. Thank you. Rcsprinter (natter) 20:46, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, as you did at User:Logan, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:47, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

he blocked me from live web chatdrt2012 (talk) 20:47, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

And he was right to do so. But I'm not going to discuss that. What I am going to bring across, perfectly clear, is that you are *not* allowed to behave in the way you are doing here, for whatever provocation, either just or injust. This is, for as far I am concerned, your final warning. If you cross the line again, you will be blocked from editing. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

ME

Please be nice to me, I have aspberger's syndrome.

I have aspberger but i dnt act liek you do, dnt use it as a excuse--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 20:54, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I really really struggle to cope with users like logan and I don't think he was right

that has nothing to do with aspberger that just you as a person, aspberger aaffect how you communicate with people in person--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 20:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO CONTROL MY EMOTIONS and I still feel that Mr Logy Wogy was bad.

I have no doubt you find it diffucult to control oyur emontions but its not to do with aspbergers, if you listen or use helpme and a experiance editor can help you dnt get intoa fight is the best advice i can give you--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 21:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

You don't know my condition. I am acting in self defence. I am just jealous, as I don't get to be an admin and he does. I still hate him though.

I HAVE ASPBERGERS i know the ocndition really well i am trying to help you, you dnt get to be admin right out, i have been her for 6 years done thousands of edits and been involved in countless policy stuff but i am no where near admin stage, you shouldnt be jealous of him being admin. work on article make them better get invoved in admin stuff like RFC, AFD etc and get involve in project talks and eventally you will get there--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 21:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for attempting to harass other users. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. — The Earwig ^(talk) 20:52, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dannyboy1209 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

On livechat, I tried to ask about the complexity of wikicode. Shortly afterwards, Logan blocked me for no particuar reason. Because of my asperger's syndrome, I acted in revenge towards him, by asking him to reverse the blockage. He then deleted my request. This upset me. So, I tried to post again. again, he deleted me. I got very very upset, so I trouted him and used a swear word in the process. I appologise for this, but I should not be treated like that. drt2012 (talk) 21:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Livechat is not a formal part of Wikipedia, and I cannot see the logs from there. However, your behaviour here on Wikipedia is ridiculous - and calling someone an "idiot" again and again is not appropriate. Please note, I have extensive understanding of Aspergers, and although I have blocked another user for "making fun of it", it can NEVER excuse your incivility and personal attacks here on Wikipedia, period. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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I would remind you that users have the right to remove messages from their own talkpage per WP:OWNTALK. Thanks for apologising for the language. Rcsprinter (rap) 21:12, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Hey Danny, can you tell me what you mean by "He then deleted my request"? Did he delete your request in chat, or on wiki? If possible, links to page diffs would be appreciated. AndrewN ^talk 21:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I tried to ask him on his user talk page. He deleted this. He did the same with my second attempt. THis made me upset. I swore and am now sorry for it. I am definetely drt2012 (talk) 09:56, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

YOu have just been offsenive to the same user after asking for the block to be reviewed you are not doign anything to help yoru cause, please stop using aspberger as a sexcuse it isnt.--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 21:16, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Please stop. Your comments are only making the situation worse. AndrewN ^talk 21:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

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Mentorship

Hi Dannyboy. Firstly, can I just say, welcome to wikipedia. I see you've gotten off on the wrong foot, but don't worry that happens to a lot of people - you can still move forward productively from here. I'm afraid I'm a little busy to mentor you full time at the moment, but I'm certainly happy to be a "go-to" guy if you've got any questions, and help you out of any sticky situations by helping you to deal with the problems. I'm afraid you caught me while I was on holiday, so sorry I wasn't there to help out before.

Now, let's see, you've done a lot of "right" things, wandering to the Teahouse to ask questions and admitting when you have difficulties, say in wikicode. However, blowing up at editors is not a good thing, especially for something that happened off wikipedia. What's more, Aspergers Syndrome is not something that is accepted as an excuse here. Quite simply, as a voluntary site, we do not accept editors who cannot follow the rules of the encyclopedia, and if a condition prevents you from editing productively, then it's best that you find something else to do. However, I am certain you have the ability to edit productively. I've got a friend, Pesky who wrote an essay which might help you. She is also a great person to bother if you're getting stressed, as she has a lot of experience working with editors who have Aspergers.

Anyway, if you want to drop me a message here or on my talk page, feel free. Worm^TT · (talk) 08:34, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

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RFA

Hello, I noticed it looks like you're trying to add another request for adminship. It's great that you're excited about wikipdeia, but i'm afraid it looks like you're rushing things. There's a lot of good work to be done without being an admin. I myself am not an admin, and I've been around for about 5 years. You got some advice above when your first RFA was closed. I really think you should read through the links provided, and try not to think about adminship till you've at least had several months if not more of editing. Wish you the best around here.--Cube lurker (talk) 19:37, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

WHERE DID MY RFA GO!!!

Here to help

Hey, I've seen you around a bit, and I'm wondering if there's something I could maybe do to help you. Now I'm not an admin (or even an Admin Hopeful), but I've been around for long enough to see that, perhaps, you really do want to edit constructively, you just need a push in the right direction. So let me ask: "What can I do to help you out?" Achowat (talk) 19:37, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikicode, Perhaps, for I think of myself as drt2012 (talk) 19:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

What parts of Wikicode don't you think you have a handle on? I mean, you transcluded two RfAs with very little issue. Achowat (talk) 19:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

You really need to stop focusing on your closed RFAs. You can be a good contributor here without the mop, and that's what you should strive for. Achowat (talk) 19:56, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

How then, do I do maths and other such commodities. Those tables are ridiculous.

What do you mean? What pages are you talking about? Achowat (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I've gone six years without applying for admin, and I do maths every day —Tamfang (talk) 00:42, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I struck out my comments, and I recind my previous request to help you, based on your un-apologetic use of a Sock to evade a block. Happy editing, if you're ever allowed back. Achowat (talk) 14:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I have come back early, as I have noticed that someone is pretending to be me. Their account is User:dannyboy1209 2. I am NOT them and had no intention of ever engaging in sock puppetry. Please realise that I wouldn't do anything like that. drt2012 (talk) 18:18, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Prove me wrong; but this diff looks like classic you. Achowat (talk) 18:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

That definetely wasn't me. I tried to go on a wikibreak, because I wanted to avoid WP to calm down a bit. I would not just try to create a second account and plus, I don't make spelling mistakes, the way my imposter does drt2012 (talk) 18:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC).

Spelling mistakes like definetely? —Tamfang (talk) 18:54, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

It's not classic Danny without a megalomanic tag. —Tamfang (talk) 18:54, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

It really really wasn't me. Do you believe me? I would never ever do that sort of thing. Believe me, I amdrt2012 (talk) 19:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Stop quacking, no one believes you. I think the time is nigh that your talk page access should be revoked. Pol430 talk to me 19:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

But I am telling the truth. Please would you believe me, without my talk page, I'll have nowhere to go. drt2012 (talk) 19:34, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't mean to be callous, but the Web is practically World Wide, or so I've heard. —Tamfang (talk) 19:36, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Maybe no one believes him, but I don't disbelieve him. I can easily imagine that some other troll made a Danny-puppet to yank everyone's chain including Danny's. —Tamfang (talk) 19:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm willing to believe that User:dannyboy1209 2 wasn't you. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen a random vandal create what would appear to be an obvious sock of someone who'd recently been in trouble just for laughs. That said, I don't think whether or not that was you changes anything about what you've actually been blocked for on this account. --Onorem♠Dil 19:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to request that a checkuser look at them. If they are the same person though, I am going to suggest that talkpage access be revoked. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I just came around and saw this case. It seems pretty clear to me and many other people also that both these user accounts User:Dannyboy1209 and User:Dannyboy1209 2 are operated by the same person. Dannyboy1209 as you were already told before not to go for an RfA in the near future, you did start it again Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dannyboy1209 2 and nominated another of your accounts for it as can be seen on the page. And when after it was closed the other account just went and undid the close process and started the RfA again just to be reverted and blocked again for block evasion and now you say that you were not doing it? Nothing has been left to believe anymore seeing the disruption and trolling which has been going around for quite a time and which other users have also said to you. TheGeneralUser (talk) 22:07, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I only put a 2 on the end of my username, because the RfA instructions ask me to do this. The instructions say "3. If this is your second nomination or subsequent, then add a space after the username with a number corresponding to the number of Requests for Adminship you have performed. If it is your second, put space 2. If it is your third, space 3 and so forth." I did just that. Now, obviously someone decided to take advantage of this situation (including the indefinite block), and decided to impersonate me. They tried to make me suffer at their expense and I decided to, and was forced to end my wikibreak early because of this. During it, I was monitoring my user page while logged out. I did not go anywhere near my user account on the night of the 24th of May. I, with my family, was watching The Apprentice at that time. My ip address is 92.0.122.171. I am pretty sure my imposter used a different ip address, as per the ip blocking policy. This means that it couldn't, therefore, have been me who created that account. I, as I had said before on previous occasions, would have had no reason whatsoever, to have done such a thing on Wikipedia. I understand how, due to my previous activity, you think that that sock puppet was me, but I am saying now and as I have said before, it completely and utterly was, under no circumstances at all, me who made that account. I do not want to be punished for things I did not do, and I have looked at Ryan Vessy's suggestion of a strict mentorship. I would definitely agree to doing this, and I would suggest it would be arranged as soon as is possible. I would like another chance, just to prove that I can change my ways and that I can indeed be an admin in about 3 months time. So, in conclusion, the sock puppet account was not mine at all, and I would like a strict mentorship. drt2012 (talk) 15:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

BTW< Apprentice was on at the times of the post below: "I now sign as Dannyboy 1209 2". On the subject of mentorship, I am willing to do that come August if it turns out that Dannyboy hasn't used sockpuppets. If the chu (which seems to be declined) comes up positive, I retract my proposal. Buggie111 (talk) 06:08, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Blocked

I'm sorry, but this needs to stop. I don't know if you are too young to understand how things work here, or are intentionally disrupting things, but your edits are all either (a) to your user page, (b) making unnecessary or actually damaging edits to articles, or (c) disrupting a project page. This is just not working out. I have blocked this account indefinitely. The template below will explain your options. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:44, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for disruptive editing. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Floquenbeam (talk) 19:46, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dannyboy1209 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I appear to have been blocked for no reason whatsoever. Whoever did this should realise that the only way I'll improve is by getting help with wikicode, excepting RfAs. I have not a clue what people are talking about and therefore wish to have my block cancelled. I have appologised to User:Logan on my second RfA. I really don't think I can be an admin if I keep getting blocked. Give me a chance. I am not as good as you and wish to to therefore say that this block is wrong. I am still struggling, despite help, to make useful wikipedia articles. I also wish to say that I did not vandalise any articles after the "Logan" incident and probably try to avoid any incidents like this in the future, meaning that I never will, or at least I will try to make a good attempt not to. I need a chance, just one support on a RfA, one more live chat session, one more chance to prove to myself and the whole of the Wikipedia community, to say that I am not a failure, nor a vandal, nor a troll, that I can change my ways, that I can change my ways forever and make Wikipedia a better place, not just for me, but for others as well, for they are also important to Wikipedia. I want to be one of you, not just someone you push around. I want to receive better help and want to have a future, for I shall go down in history as drt2012 (talk) 19:53, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

While it's true that you cannot be an admin if you keep getting blocked, that is a feature, not a bug. I'm not convinced you understand what you're doing wrong, and until you demonstrate that you do understand, an unblock will not be possible. Take some time away from Wikipedia and develop other skills, because as Floquenbeam says, your current skill set is not a very good match for Wikipedia. There are plenty of other sites out there that could better channel your enthusiasm. 28bytes (talk) 20:04, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

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• Comment I oppose unblocking this user, at least for the time being. One minute he is claiming he doesn't understand Wikicode, the next he is creating an RfA. It appears a lot like trolling to me, and if it is not then I would point out WP:Competency is required. In addition, the user stated that he probably never will vandalize an article. As far as I'm concerned, that should be an immediate decline reason. Finally, his habit of ending his posts with "I shall go down in history as" and "I am the Emperor of admminship, his imperial majesty" and the like shows that he A) doesn't know what adminship is and B) is incapable of figuring out how to work with other editors. I'd suggest setting this block for a year, let him come back when he's older. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:59, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dannyboy1209 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I appear to have been blocked for no reason whatsoever. Whoever did this should realise that the only way I'll improve is by getting help with wikicode, excepting RfAs. I have not a clue what people are talking about and therefore wish to have my block cancelled. I have appologised to User:Logan on my second RfA. I really don't think I can be an admin if I keep getting blocked. Give me a chance. I am not as good as you and wish to to therefore say that this block is wrong. I am still struggling, despite help, to make useful wikipedia articles. I also wish to say that I did not vandalise any articles after the "Logan" incident and probably try to avoid any incidents like this in the future, meaning that I never will, or at least I will try to make a good attempt not to. I need a chance, just one support on a RfA, one more live chat session, one more chance to prove to myself and the whole of the Wikipedia community, to say that I am not a failure, nor a vandal, nor a troll, that I can change my ways, that I can change my ways forever and make Wikipedia a better place, not just for me, but for others as well, for they are also important to Wikipedia. I want to be one of you, not just someone you push around. I want to receive better help and want to have a future, for I shall go down in history as drt2012 (talk) 20:15, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Decline reason:

No, posting the same request for the second time will not get you unblocked - furthermore, next unconstructive request will result in your right to post to this page being withdrawn. Seriously - take a break as you've been suggested, we can't unblock you unless you have a clue. Max Semenik (talk) 20:20, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

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I was planning to decline the above request as well, with the following rationale: 2 1/2 years is long enough to learn how the system works and prove yourself to the community; I see no evidence that you have been trying in earnest to contribute to Wikipedia. Indeed, we have ample proof that you aren't here to be helpful. If you don't understand why you have been blocked, I don't see how it would benefit Wikipedia to unblock you. Jayron32 20:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I haven't been on very much in 2010 and early 2011. I am not "trying" to be unconstructive, I genuinely need help. I have aspergers and find communication diffcult. I don't think I should have been blocked. You blocked me shortly after my second RfA. I did nothing after it, which would be considered "unconstructive". I have strong feelings for Wikipedia and always thought that I was meant to be an admin. I name myself drt2012 (talk) 20:40, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

ON WIKIBREAK UNTIL 26/5/2012 I sign as drt2012 (talk) 20:47, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I now remove my Wikibreak and will edit from my another account User:Dannyboy1209 2. Dannyboy1209 2 (talk) 21:03, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

No, you won't. 28bytes (talk) 21:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Editing examples and some thoughts

I did a quick review of this editor's contribs to try to find any constructive editing, this is what I found

• Poor editing habits at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Mathematics#Integral Calculus including, what the HELL is that supposed to mean, enlighten me ASAP and referring to himself as His Majesty,
• Innapropriate edit to Sky (UK and Ireland), may have been misguided, I'll assume a bit of good faith and not call this vandalism
• Unexplained modification
• addition of information to an inappropriate area
• Peacockery
• addition of valid information to an inappropriate area

From what I see from this short look through recent edits, the editor seems to have good intentions in the article space but has a complete lack of clue. The editor seems to be purely disruptive in the Wikipedia space. If this editor is ever to be unblocked I believe they should need to agree to strict mentoring and they should be topic banned in the Wikipedia namespace with some exceptions. As far as I'm concerned, that would involve being allowed to ask questions at the help desk and Teahouse, but not at the reference desks. In addition, any pages created should be created through articles for creation (see Stuart ashen). If this editor desires to make a comment at another page within the Wikipedia namespace, for whatever period of time could be decided, I suggest that they seek permission from their mentor first. This could include things like desire to start commenting at AFD's and/or RfA's. The mentor should have unilateral authority to indef block for any infringement. I still think that some time is needed blocked, but due to the evidently good intentions that I see, would anyone be opposed to unblocking under these or similar conditions? Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:53, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I have reviewed things as well. The user has attempted to provide rationale for their disruption, but ultimately Wikipedia:Competency is required comes into play. It ultimately doesn't matter why this user isn't contibuting constructively to Wikipedia. The results speak for themselves, and the results show that in 2 1/2 years, there has not been much in the way of positive contributions. We have no access to the internal mind of anyone, so his intentions are irrelevent. What is relevent is results, and these results do not show a net gain for Wikipedia. --Jayron32 21:11, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I hoped that the strict mentorship could help make up for the competency issues, but after seeing User:Dannyboy1209 2 I don't see anything that can help this user. Why wasn't there an ip autoblock? Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

SPI

I have initiated a sockpuppet investigation to attempt to clear the issue up and decide if User:Dannyboy1209 2 is or is not the same person as User:Dannyboy1209. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

It's blindingly obvious. Why hasn't his talk page access been removed as well? I can't believe anyone took his trolling seriously. Observe: That definetely wasn't me. I tried to go on a wikibreak, because I wanted to avoid WP to calm down a bit. I would not just try to create a second account and plus, I don't make spelling mistakes, the way my imposter does. Imposter? Definetely? Good grief! Voceditenore (talk) 21:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

A checkuser has determined that the two accounts are unrelated, which suggests to me that User:Dannyboy1209 2 was indeed an impersonator trying to get User:Dannyboy1209 in further trouble, presumably for laughs. I have corrected the block reason for that account from "block evasion" to "impersonation". I still support the indef block on Dannyboy1209 for the reasons Floquenbeam explained in his block, but wanted to note for the record that Dannyboy1209 does not appear to have engaged in any block evasion. 28bytes (talk) 15:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Unblocking

When will I be expected to be unblocked? I don't see any indication of an exact date as of yet. drt2012 (talk) 20:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

You were not blocked for sock-puppetry Danny, but for a host of other reasons. I discussed the issue of you being unblocked under strict mentorship on my talk page, with with User:28bytes -- see here. We both agree that it would benefit you and Wikipedia to remain blocked for some time to come. Take a break from Wikipedia for now. Pol430 talk to me 20:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

• Dannyboy, I'll explicitly say here that no admin needs my approval or acquiescence or agreement to modify this block in any way. However, my opinion, which they can weigh however much they want, is that you, and Wikipedia, would both benefit from some significant time away, doing something else. Someone above, I believe, suggested a year. That seems reasonable. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Teahouse

Where has my entry on the guest list of the teahouse gone? It isn't even in the edit summary? I believe I did become a guest. drt2012 (talk) 20:45, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

You are currently not allowed to participate at Wikipedia, owing to your active block. Before we worry about insignificant issues like that, we should deal with the more pressing one, which is how you are going to behave going forward, if perchance you were unblocked. Deal with first things first. Once administrators have been adequately convinced that you don't pose a threat to the well being of the project, then we can deal with things like that. --Jayron32 20:52, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't it still be in the edit summary then? drt2012 (talk) 20:53, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. Re-read what I wrote. --Jayron32 21:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

But it confuses me. drt2012 (talk) 21:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Your first goal is to get unblocked. Until that happens, nothing else at Wikipedia should matter to you. Capice? --Jayron32 22:38, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

If you can't edit, you can't cause an edit summary to come into existence. Is that less confusing? —Tamfang (talk) 22:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Not really, it should sill be there. drt2012 (talk) 15:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You didn't add yourself as a guest. You added yourself to "I want to be a host" at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Your hosts. You were removed because you were blocked. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I did. drt2012 (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I think it's time you understood that you are now firmly blocked for quite a while and that any further dialogue on this talk page about your participation on Wikipedia is really a waste of everyone's time - including your own. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:40, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I see that I misunderstood the question. If by "edit summary" you mean the page's history, i.e. the record of incremental changes, your edit is still there; I just looked it up. Why you applied to be a host, when hosts are meant to be experienced editors, is more of a mystery. —Tamfang (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I still became a guest at one point and cannot find my name on the guest list at all. The edit history is completely helpless. drt2012 (talk) 18:26, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I looked at the edit history of Wikipedia:Teahouse/Guests/Left column. It's a very active page, so your entry has scrolled out of the most recent 50, but it didn't take me long to find where you added yourself and where someone removed you a few edits later. —Tamfang (talk) 21:53, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

What was the person who removed me thinking! drt2012 (talk) 16:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Possibly that, as you're not editing, you would not benefit from advice about how to edit, and therefore it is misleading to list you as one seeking such advice. —Tamfang (talk) 17:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Maybe advice on how to get unblocked could be reached from the teahouse? drt2012 (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Now trying to get a cloak. drt2012 (talk) 18:24, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Look, first things first, and that means getting yourself unblocked. I highly recommend that you accept Pol430's mentorship offer; you might not be able to get a cloak if you're currently blocked here.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:28, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

I herby, officially accept and agree completely to the mentorship offer and request of the user Pol430. drt2012 (talk) 18:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)