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* [[:Category:Category.Shanghai (film series)]] to [[:Category:Shanghai (film series)]] – Mistake. [[User:*Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:*Treker|talk]]) 08:39, 23 July 2020 (UTC) |
* [[:Category:Category.Shanghai (film series)]] to [[:Category:Shanghai (film series)]] – Mistake. [[User:*Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:*Treker|talk]]) 08:39, 23 July 2020 (UTC) |
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* [[:Category:The Scorpion King films]] to [[:Category:The Scorpion King (film series)]] – Per main article. [[User:*Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:*Treker|talk]]) 06:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC) |
* [[:Category:The Scorpion King films]] to [[:Category:The Scorpion King (film series)]] – Per main article. [[User:*Treker|★Trekker]] ([[User talk:*Treker|talk]]) 06:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC) |
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* [[:Category:Songs written by Richard Morris]] to [[:Category:Songs written by Richard Morris (songwriter)]] – C2D, Match article name [[User:Richhoncho|Richhoncho]] ([[User talk:Richhoncho|talk]]) 08:26, 22 July 2020 (UTC) |
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*:I'm not sure what the convention is, but is it necessary to specify it's Richard Morris the songwriter if the category is entirely about songwriting? There's not likely to be a category for songs written by a different Richard Morris, and if there was, the (songwriter) disambiguation wouldn't be sufficient. [[User:Mclay1|M.Clay1]] ([[User talk:Mclay1|talk]]) 08:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC) |
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*:: @::[[User:Mclay1|M.Clay1]], the convention is to follow the name of the head article. That makes the category titles predictable and consistent, and saves lots of time guessing what the category-space titles might be. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 11:01, 24 July 2020 (UTC) |
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*REDIRECT [[:Category:Posttraumatic stress disorder]] to [[:Category:Post-traumatic stress disorder]] – Reason C2D, [[Post-traumatic stress disorder]] was just moved to its new name. '''[[User:I-82-I|<span style="color:#0000FF;">I-82-I</span>]] <span style="color:#0000FF;">|</span> [[User_talk:I-82-I|<span style="color:#0000FF;">TALK</span>]]''' 01:50, 22 July 2020 (UTC) |
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**Note: the sub-cats have been listed at [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_July_23#Post-traumatic_stress_disorder_categories]] but probably could all have been renamed via this page. Now that they are listed there, that discussion may as well run its course, but I have suggested a speedy close for it, i.e. after the same 48 hour interval as here. – [[User:Fayenatic london|Fayenatic]] [[User talk:Fayenatic london|'''<span style="color:#FF0000;">L</span>'''ondon]] 10:01, 23 July 2020 (UTC) |
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* Lots of categories to disambiguate. See [[WT:WikiProject Categories#Non-disambiguation_categories_with_eponymous_disambiguation_page_in_article_space]] for more info. |
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** [[:Category:Albini]] to [[:Category:Albini (cognomen)]] – C2B: per the plural form of the head article [[Albinus (cognomen)]]. The bare title [[Albini]] is about a modern surname. [[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 21:06, 22 July 2020 (UTC) |
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
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with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
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- Oppose ... (the reasons for your objection).
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion but, unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person will eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no word from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to continue the process, it may be requested regularly at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- This criterion is also used to add a disambiguator to a category name, even when the main article is not the primary topic of its name, but no other topics are likely to have an eponymous category
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous article
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.) If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
*REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 16:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 158 open requests (. )
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Current requests
- Category:Non-profit Organizations based in Sudan to Category:Non-profit organizations based in Sudan. WP:C2A. Fuddle (talk) 17:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- I only tagged the category now--Ymblanter (talk) 20:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Should be Category:Non-profit organisations based in Sudan; C2C per Category:Organisations based in Sudan. Oculi (talk) 20:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Obsolete Wikipedia community-authorised general sanctions templates to Category:Obsolete Wikipedia community sanctions templates - C2E. Category created by me a few days ago, on second thought name is unnecessarily too convoluted and long. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:40, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy – Should follow the same naming as the existing category tree. RGloucester — ☎ 14:03, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Manchester School of Architecture alumni to Category:Alumni of the Manchester School of Architecture – C2C per standard in Category:Alumni by university or college in the United Kingdom. Timrollpickering (talk) 13:20, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Cream album covers to Category:Cream (band) album covers – C2C: per Category:Cream (band). Oculi (talk) 11:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Old Latin New Testament manuscripts to Category:Vetus Latina New Testament manuscripts – C2B: More precise since it directly says it relates to the Vetus Latina. Veverve (talk) 11:34, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, the mere fact that there is an article Vetus Latina does not make it a case of C2B. I am also inclined to substantive oppose in case this will be moved to full discussion as I doubt that Vetus Latina is a WP:COMMONNAME WP:DEFINING characteristic of these articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:25, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: there was a recent discussion of the parent & grandparent, with no consensus, at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_April_21#Category:Vetus_Latina. – Fayenatic London 21:40, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, the mere fact that there is an article Vetus Latina does not make it a case of C2B. I am also inclined to substantive oppose in case this will be moved to full discussion as I doubt that Vetus Latina is a WP:COMMONNAME WP:DEFINING characteristic of these articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:25, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Edition of the Vulgate to Category:Editions of the Vulgate, C2A, use plural for set categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Mithraic mysteries to Category:Mithraism – C2D: Match Mithraism, which was moved from Mithraic mysteries in 2016. M.Clay1 (talk) 07:52, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Singapore arts and entertainment templates to Category:Singapore arts and culture templates – C2C with the rest of the "(Country) arts and culture templates" -- AquaDTRS (talk) 07:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:An Giang F.C. players to Category:CLB An Giang players – C2D, article has been at CLB An Giang for 8 months. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Kurukshetra war to Category:Kurukshetra War – C2A/C2D per Kurukshetra War Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:35, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Pragjyotisha to Category:Pragjyotisha Kingdom – C2D per Pragjyotisha Kingdom Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:33, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Edition of the Septuagint to Category:Editions of the Septuagint – C2A pluralize Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:People from Buckley to Category:People from Buckley, Flintshire – C2D per Buckley, Flintshire, Buckley is ambiguous, see the recent RM. There is also Category:People from Buckley, Illinois and Category:People from Buckley, Washington so the base name should become a DAB page. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:43, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Live Streaming software to Category:Live streaming software – C2A. M.Clay1 (talk) 13:03, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I don’t see why this category redirect needs to be moved. Just create another at the proposed target. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- The current title does have some history (as being a separate category briefly) so I'd agree with the move. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:47, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- The current title has incorrect capitalisation and so does not need to exist after the correct name is created. It is a "redirect with possibilities" and has history, so it's better to do it this way than make a new page and delete the old one. M.Clay1 (talk) 07:56, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. I agree with Armbrust. I see no need to preserve the history of a page which has been a category redirect for 4 years, and was a full category for only 5 days. Memorialising every error in metadata pages is absurd. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:04, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- That's kind of irrelevant though. The current title needs deleting and the new one needs creating. Either it's done as a move or done as a new page and a deletion request. May as well do it this way. There's no reason not to. M.Clay1 (talk) 11:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- No need to bring this to a process. Just create the new one, and move on. The miscapitalised one is harmless. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- That's kind of irrelevant though. The current title needs deleting and the new one needs creating. Either it's done as a move or done as a new page and a deletion request. May as well do it this way. There's no reason not to. M.Clay1 (talk) 11:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I don’t see why this category redirect needs to be moved. Just create another at the proposed target. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:40, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedia categories named after organizations based in Paraguay to Category:Wikipedia categories named after organisations based in Paraguay – C2C: convention in Category:Organisations based in Paraguay. Oculi (talk) 10:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Afarit to Category:Ifrits – C2D: Match Ifrit but plural M.Clay1 (talk) 10:45, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Reed Elsevier to Category:RELX – C2D. Störm (talk) 09:19, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Category.Shanghai (film series) to Category:Shanghai (film series) – Mistake. ★Trekker (talk) 08:39, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:The Scorpion King films to Category:The Scorpion King (film series) – Per main article. ★Trekker (talk) 06:50, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Radio programs on XM Satellite Radio to Category:Sirius XM Radio programs – C2D, article at Sirius XM, new company division name after merger is Sirius XM Radio, Inc. Parent is Siruis XM Holdings, Inc. These are radio programs (shows), not channels. Funandtrvl (talk) 15:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- The category for Radio programs on XM Satellite Radio, should really be empty, as the radio programs for the three platforms: XM radio, Sirius and SiriusXM have been merged, and are the same on all three platforms. See this link at SiriusXM. Since the company is now called Sirius XM Radio, Inc., it makes sense that the radio programs should be in the new category, under the current company name, as the programs are the same no matter which physical radio tuner that you have in your car or at home. Funandtrvl (talk) 00:29, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:XM Satellite Radio channels to Category:Sirius XM Radio channels – C2D, article at List of Sirius XM Radio channels, new company division name after merger is Sirius XM Radio, Inc. Parent is Siruis XM Holdings, Inc. Funandtrvl (talk) 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose above two. The main article is XM Satellite Radio, they are also both a subcategory of Category:XM Satellite Radio. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:17, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: This company, XM Satellite Radio, no longer exists, all the stations for both XM and Sirius have migrated to the new company, which combined both back in 2013, and is called "Sirius XM Radio, Inc." Funandtrvl (talk) 00:02, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Sirius Satellite Radio channels to Category:Sirius XM Radio channels – C2D, article at List of Sirius XM Radio channels Funandtrvl (talk) 15:33, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose The main article of the category is Sirius Satellite Radio, and it's also a subcategory of Category:Sirius Satellite Radio. Armbrust The Homunculus 20:20, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: This company, Sirius Satellite Radio, no longer exists, all the stations for both XM and Sirius have migrated to the new company, which combined both back in 2013, and is called Sirius XM Radio, Inc. Funandtrvl (talk) 00:02, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Atlantic 10 Women's Basketball Tournament to Category:NCAA Division I women's basketball conference competitions – C2F: contains only the eponymous article Atlantic 10 Women's Basketball Tournament. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:15, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose Category now contains more articles. See also
abovenomination of Category:Atlantic 10 Conference Women's Basketball Tournament to Category:Atlantic 10 Women's Basketball Tournament. Armbrust The Homunculus 23:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose Category now contains more articles. See also
- Category:Back to the Future to Category:Back to the Future (franchise) – C2D: per head article Back to the Future (franchise). BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:35, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The proposed renaming was rejected in this full discussion. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Two Star Wars related categories need to be renamed in accordance to C2C.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 04:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Books based on Star Wars to Category:Novel based on Star Wars
- At least it should be novels (plural). I hope nominator has checked that all these books are in fact novels (I have not checked that). Marcocapelle (talk) 11:29, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- sorry, forgot the plural, but from what I can tell, they are all novels.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 04:50, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose books to novels, as A Guide to the Star Wars Universe is obviously not a novel, and there is at least one other page about reference works. By all means split the category to a new sub-cat for novels if that would be helpful. – Fayenatic London 19:52, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Books based on Star Wars to Category:Novel based on Star Wars
- Category:People who lost United States citizenship to Category:People who lost American citizenship – C2C: Per Category:People who lost citizenship Rathfelder (talk) 14:50, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose "American" is not synonymous with the "United States". UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:01, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per UnitedStatesian. -- Euryalus (talk) 05:48, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Afro-Cuban to Category:Afro-Cubans - C2D per Afro-Cubans. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - this is a topic category (slavery subcat). Moreover Category:Afro-Cubans was renamed at cfd in 2008: 2008_May_24#Cats:Fooian(-)Booians_to_Cats:Booians_of_Fooian_descent_for_Angola,_Belgium,_Brunei,_Bulgaria,_Cambodia,_China,_Costa_Rica,_Colombia,_Croatia,_and_Cuba. Oculi (talk) 16:49, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Croatian Christian Democratic Party politicians to Category:Croatian Demochristian Party politicians – per Croatian Demochristian Party Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose, as the category members were active before 2009 when a merger resulted in the new name. Maybe create a parent category;
Marko VeselicaAnte Ledić could be placed in both. – Fayenatic London 22:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC) - I have now created a sibling category. – Fayenatic London 16:57, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose, as the category members were active before 2009 when a merger resulted in the new name. Maybe create a parent category;
- Category:Kosovo pre-2014 international footballers to Category:Kosovo international footballers (pre-2014) – Grammatical correction. Krelana (talk) 21:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose, pre-2014 is not a disambiguator, it is key to the scope of the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Workers' Cause Party politicians to Category:Labour Cause's Party politicians – per Labour Cause's Party Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose, I have reverted this article to Workers' Cause Party. – Fayenatic London 21:57, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:United Socialist Workers' Party politicians to Category:Unified Workers' Socialist Party politicians – per Unified Workers' Socialist Party Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose, I moved the article back to match the current name instead. – Fayenatic London 21:48, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish Labour Party to Category:Scottish Labour – C2D per Scottish Labour Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:15, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish Labour Party leadership elections to Category:Scottish Labour leadership elections
- Category:Scottish Labour Party politicians to Category:Scottish Labour politicians
- Category:Scottish Labour Party councillors to Category:Scottish Labour councillors
- Category:Leaders of the Scottish Labour Party to Category:Leaders of the Scottish Labour
- Category:Scottish Labour Party MEPs to Category:Scottish Labour MEPs
- Category:Labour MSPs to Category:Scottish Labour MSPs
- Category:Scottish Labour Party parliamentary candidates to Category:Scottish Labour parliamentary candidates
- Category:Scottish Labour Party MPs to Category:Scottish Labour MPs
- Category:Labour MP for Scotland stubs to Category:Scottish Labour MP stubs
- Category:Scottish Labour Party templates to Category:Scottish Labour templates
- Oppose for the same reason as for the Scottish Conservatives below. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:50, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish Green Party to Category:Scottish Greens – C2D per Scottish Greens Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:10, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish Green Party politicians to Category:Scottish Greens politicians
- Category:Scottish Green Party councillors to Category:Scottish Greens councillors
- Category:Leaders of the Scottish Green Party to Category:Leaders of the Scottish Greens
- Category:Scottish Green Party MSPs to Category:Scottish Greens MSPs
- Oppose for the same reason as for the Scottish Conservatives below. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:50, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish Conservative Party to Category:Scottish Conservatives – C2D per Scottish Conservatives Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:22, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish Conservative Party leadership elections to Category:Scottish Conservatives leadership elections
- Category:Scottish Conservative Party politicians to Category:Scottish Conservatives politicians
- Category:Scottish Conservative Party councillors to Category:Scottish Conservatives councillors
- Category:Leaders of the Scottish Conservative Party to Category:Leaders of the Scottish Conservatives
- Category:Scottish Conservative Party MEPs to Category:Scottish Conservatives MEPs
- Category:Scottish Conservative Party MPs to Category:Scottish Conservatives MPs
- Category:Conservative MSPs to Category:Scottish Conservatives MSPs
- Category:Scottish Conservative Party parliamentary candidates to Category:Scottish Conservatives parliamentary candidates
- Oppose substantively. @Good Ol’factory: The head article was moved without discussion in 2018[1]. It probably satisfies WP:C2D per long-term stability at the new title, but it's ambiguous: the lack of the word "party" gives the category a broader scope, extending to: 1) Scottish people who are members of the Conservatives in England or Wales; 2) Scottish people who are conservative, but not members of the party. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:46, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Character-substitution templates to Category:Character substitution templates - C2A, obviously wrong. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 17:17, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose No, it’s correct as it is per MOS:HYPHEN (compound modifier). Armbrust The Homunculus 17:29, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:History of the English language to Category:History of English – C2D per History of English. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 08:59, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose - convention in Category:Language histories (C2C) and also parent Category:English language. I would also have supported the proposed move of the rather vague History of English to History of the English language. Oculi (talk) 11:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per Oculi. Johnbod (talk) 15:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Conservation to Category:Conservation (ethic) – C2D: per head article Conservation (ethic). The bare title Conservation is a disambiguation page, which includes the separate topics of Conservation law/Category:Conservation laws and Conservation and restoration of cultural heritage/Category:Conservation and restoration. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: I'm not sure that's a good enough fit; the category page currently says its scope is wider than that. Probably worth a full discussion, to cover whether we need Category:Environmental conservation as a separate sub-cat, and whether the sub-cats by location should also be disambiguated.– Fayenatic London 16:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl and Fayenatic london: category discussion on hold pending an RM regarding the main article. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: I'm not sure that's a good enough fit; the category page currently says its scope is wider than that. Probably worth a full discussion, to cover whether we need Category:Environmental conservation as a separate sub-cat, and whether the sub-cats by location should also be disambiguated.– Fayenatic London 16:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Terminator video games to Category:Terminator (franchise) video games – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 22:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Terminator comics to Category:Terminator (franchise) comics – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 22:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Terminator images to Category:Terminator (franchise) images – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 22:28, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Terminator films to Category:Terminator (franchise) films – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 22:28, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Terminator characters to Category:Terminator (franchise) characters – C2D. Gonnym (talk) 22:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- REDIRECT Category:Novels about posttraumatic stress disorder to Category:Novels about post-traumatic stress disorder – Reason C2D, Post-traumatic stress disorder was just moved I-82-I | TALK 23:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Television episodes about posttraumatic stress disorder to Category:Television episodes about post-traumatic stress disorder – Reason C2D, Post-traumatic stress disorder was just moved I-82-I | TALK 23:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Fictional characters with posttraumatic stress disorder to Category:Fictional characters with post-traumatic stress disorder – Reason C2D, Post-traumatic stress disorder was just moved I-82-I | TALK 23:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:Films about posttraumatic stress disorder to Category:Films about post-traumatic stress disorder – Reason C2D, Post-traumatic stress disorder was just moved I-82-I | TALK 23:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- REDIRECT Category:People with posttraumatic stress disorder to Category:People with post-traumatic stress disorder – Reason C2D, Post-traumatic stress disorder was just moved I-82-I | TALK 23:28, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- @I-82-I: Procedural oppose above 6. None of the categories were tagged as described in the lead of this page. Armbrust The Homunculus 06:04, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: How is post-traumatic stress disorder not the eponymous term for these categories? Post-traumatic stress disorder may not be the tagged one, but the name is derived from it. Also, what about WP:TITLECON? It may be for articles, but it makes sense to apply it here (having one category named post-traumatic stress disorder and another called films about posttraumatic stress disorder is breaking the new convention that has been established). I-82-I | TALK 06:25, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- @I-82-I: I have no idea what you mean, but the categories are still untagged as required by this process. Armbrust The Homunculus 06:28, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: How is post-traumatic stress disorder not the eponymous term for these categories? Post-traumatic stress disorder may not be the tagged one, but the name is derived from it. Also, what about WP:TITLECON? It may be for articles, but it makes sense to apply it here (having one category named post-traumatic stress disorder and another called films about posttraumatic stress disorder is breaking the new convention that has been established). I-82-I | TALK 06:25, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion.
- Category:Scottish Gaelic language to Category:Scottish Gaelic – C2D per Scottish Gaelic. --Soumya-8974 talk contribs subpages 07:26, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Soumya-8974 The last time you nominated this category it was opposed for speedy renaming, and just because you wait one month it won't change. You either need to take it full discussion, or leave it alone. BTW this all boils down that I oppose speedy renaming of the category too. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per @Armbrust. This needs a full CFD discussion ... and if there is a full CFD discussion, I will oppose it there. Other editors may support the move, but it can't proceed without discussion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Soumya-8974 The last time you nominated this category it was opposed for speedy renaming, and just because you wait one month it won't change. You either need to take it full discussion, or leave it alone. BTW this all boils down that I oppose speedy renaming of the category too. Armbrust The Homunculus 09:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Meanwhile moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:50, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Crimean national liberation activists to Category:Crimean Tatar national liberation activists – C2C per Category:Crimean Tatar activists. Tagged by anon editor in May, not listed until now. All the member articles prominently mention Crimean Tatar. – Fayenatic London 11:48, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose OR category, I checked half of the articles and neither of them mentioned Crimean nationalism or national liberation. (t · c) buidhe 18:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Now at full discussion with option of upmerging. – Fayenatic London 21:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose OR category, I checked half of the articles and neither of them mentioned Crimean nationalism or national liberation. (t · c) buidhe 18:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:British television programmes by genre to Category:British television series by genre – C2C: per convention of Category:Television series by country and genre. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:37, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose Not all the programmes in this category are series. Some are one-off. Thincat (talk) 10:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Thincat, if that is the case, then there are two options:
- Oppose Not all the programmes in this category are series. Some are one-off. Thincat (talk) 10:19, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- purge this category of show that are not series
- rename all the other subcats of Category:Television series by country and genre to use "shows".
- But I don't see the case for making British programming an exception. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- There shouldn't be an exception for Britain. However, articles properly categorised as programmes/programs/shows (in any country) shouldn't be improperly re-categorised as series. Another (hypothetical) suggestion: remove Category:British television programmes by genre from Category:Television series by country and genre which is, I think, the source of the problem. I now see Category:Television shows is (temporarily?) chaotic. Thincat (talk) 11:13, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Thincat, excluding Brits shows from Category:Television series by country and genre is no solution. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:21, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Your option (1) would involve a great deal of work. Some subcats contain mostly one-offs (Category:British television documentaries) other subcats contain mostly series (or entirely if the subcat naming is correct). (2) would seem to me preferable but not as a speedy because the situation has not been clear. Thincat (talk) 08:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- There shouldn't be an exception for Britain. However, articles properly categorised as programmes/programs/shows (in any country) shouldn't be improperly re-categorised as series. Another (hypothetical) suggestion: remove Category:British television programmes by genre from Category:Television series by country and genre which is, I think, the source of the problem. I now see Category:Television shows is (temporarily?) chaotic. Thincat (talk) 11:13, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion
- Category:Parti Kesejahteraan Insan Tanah Air politicians to Category:Homeland Human's Wellbeing Party politicians – per Homeland Human's Wellbeing Party Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:23, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- Now at full discussion as I have moved the main page to a better translation. – Fayenatic London 10:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Razakar to Category:Razakar (Pakistan) – C2D: per head article Razakar (Pakistan). The bare title Razakar is about the concept (an Arabic word which means volunteer), but Razakar (Pakistan) is a specific force which operated in East Pakistan. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: I believe this should be Category:Razakars (Pakistan). – Fayenatic London 09:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic, the category currently structured as a topic category, so no plural needed. Maybe it should become a combined set/topic category? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure I understand this re WP:TOPICCAT. In what way is it "structured as a topic category", other than its name being singular rather than plural? How would it "become" a combined one – simply by renaming as I have suggested? – Fayenatic London 12:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Fayenatic: It's set up as a WP:TOPICCAT for the organisation called Razakar (Pakistan). If it was a set category, it would have people categories as patents. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:55, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, I see – thank you. But I disagree that the organisation was called Razakar (Pakistan), even though that is its main article; in the article, the organisation is referred to either as "Razakars" or as "Razakar force". Moreover, I think the category is already functioning also as a set category. (I would probably move the article as well.) – Fayenatic London 13:00, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic, I have moved this to the opposed section, because I think it has moved beyond the type of straightforward issue which can be handled as a speedy, so we need a full discussion to consider it. I'll leave it you make that full nomination, so that you can make the nominator's case upfront. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:46, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, I see – thank you. But I disagree that the organisation was called Razakar (Pakistan), even though that is its main article; in the article, the organisation is referred to either as "Razakars" or as "Razakar force". Moreover, I think the category is already functioning also as a set category. (I would probably move the article as well.) – Fayenatic London 13:00, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Fayenatic: It's set up as a WP:TOPICCAT for the organisation called Razakar (Pakistan). If it was a set category, it would have people categories as patents. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:55, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- Not sure I understand this re WP:TOPICCAT. In what way is it "structured as a topic category", other than its name being singular rather than plural? How would it "become" a combined one – simply by renaming as I have suggested? – Fayenatic London 12:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic, the category currently structured as a topic category, so no plural needed. Maybe it should become a combined set/topic category? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- @BrownHairedGirl: I believe this should be Category:Razakars (Pakistan). – Fayenatic London 09:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Suspense to Category:Suspense (genre) – C2D: Suspense (genre), Suspense is just the feeling. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Justin: as Suspense (genre) redirects to Thriller (genre), doesn't this justify a speedy upmerge to Category:Thrillers, and renaming/merging of its subcats? I'm not sure that that would be best, though. The article Thriller (genre) only mentions suspense as a characteristic of thrillers, not as a sub-genre. However, I feel that Suspense#In drama might be a better target for the redirect. If that is done then I would not oppose your nomination. – Fayenatic London 22:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy C2D doesn’t apply to redirects. Armbrust The Homunculus 22:52, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust, then do it per C2B. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:35, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:06, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Armbrust, then do it per C2B. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:35, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Disestablishments in All-Palestine Protectorate - C2D: per All-Palestine Protectorate and Category:All-Palestine Protectorate. --Gonnym (talk) 10:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Establishments in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Establishments in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:History of All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:History of All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:History of All-Palestine (Gaza) by period to Category:History of All-Palestine Protectorate by period
- Category:Years of the 20th century in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Years of the 20th century in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:Decades in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Decades in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:1940s in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1940s in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:1950s in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1950s in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:Years in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Years in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:1948 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1948 in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:1949 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1949 in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:1956 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1956 in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:1957 in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:1957 in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Category:Massacres in All-Palestine (Gaza) to Category:Massacres in All-Palestine Protectorate
- Oppose this batch. This is a non-consensus topic and worthy of a full discussion. For instance, I wonder if many of the categories for this short-lived puppet government may not rather be merged elsewhere rather than just renamed. Place Clichy (talk) 19:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- What exactly are you opposing? The categories aren't nominated for either deletion or creation (if that were a thing). It's just aligning the names with each other and the parent article and category per C2D. Gonnym (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Imho this is still worth a full discussion. Whatever the target here it will be non-consensual. A full discussion will allow us to reach a consensual target. Place Clichy (talk) 22:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I don't see how exactly this is a valid oppose. This is exactly what C2D means. If the name isn't good, it should be handled at the article level and not at the category levels. CFD should not make WP:LOCALCONSENSUS a thing. --Gonnym (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: are you planning to move these categories to full CFD in order to have them merged? (because if you are not, there seems to be little reason to further delay renaming) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- C2D allows for exceptions, and requires anyway that the target is both unambiguous and uncontroversial, neither of which are met here. Anyway, the real issue here is that what is called All-Palestinian Protectorate in the eponymous article never actually had any existence (beside its first 3 months in 1948 according to the author of most of these categories, as argued here) and that this content should probably better be located elsewhere than in what looks like a country category structure. Notably, all the chronology and (dis)establishment categories would probably better be served by referring to an expression like Egyptian rule in the Gaza Strip, or sticking to a purely geographical terminology such as Palestinian territories or Gaza Strip. They may also be purely deleted or upmerged to larger parents. Note that all these categories have actually very few articles in them. Besides the articles directly related to the Egyptian short-lived straw government (All-Palestine National Council, All-Palestine Government) and wider articles relative to the Arab-Israeli conflict and Israeli military operations, all you have is two localities (Kfar Darom and Bureij), a newspaper (Gaza Weekly Newspaper) and a football club (Shabab Rafah). This is very little content for 31 chronology and establishment categories. For the time being and until someone creates a CfD for them, a name that mentions (Gaza) is more useful to the reader than a name that does not include it, for most or all of these categories. Place Clichy (talk) 15:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry but I don't see how exactly this is a valid oppose. This is exactly what C2D means. If the name isn't good, it should be handled at the article level and not at the category levels. CFD should not make WP:LOCALCONSENSUS a thing. --Gonnym (talk) 22:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Imho this is still worth a full discussion. Whatever the target here it will be non-consensual. A full discussion will allow us to reach a consensual target. Place Clichy (talk) 22:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- What exactly are you opposing? The categories aren't nominated for either deletion or creation (if that were a thing). It's just aligning the names with each other and the parent article and category per C2D. Gonnym (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Nomination has been split in two parts: (dis)establishments categories by year are now on full CFD. The other categories as listed in this section may follow later, dependent on the outcome of the full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:30, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- 2nd full discussion here. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Television programs by director to Category:Television shows by director — C2C per convention of Category:Television shows, as set by WP:CFD/2020 May 6#Television_program(me)s. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Television programs directed by Alan Alda to Category:Television shows directed by Alan Alda
- Category:Television programs directed by Peter Avanzino to Category:Television shows directed by Peter Avanzino
- Category:Television programs directed by Jules Bass to Category:Television shows directed by Jules Bass
- Category:Television programs directed by Steve Binder to Category:Television shows directed by Steve Binder
- Category:Television programs directed by Brannon Braga to Category:Television shows directed by Brannon Braga
- Category:Television programs directed by James Burrows to Category:Television shows directed by James Burrows
- Category:Television programs directed by Marty Callner to Category:Television shows directed by Marty Callner
- Category:Television programs directed by James L. Conway to Category:Television shows directed by James L. Conway
- Category:Television programs directed by Matthew Faughnan to Category:Television shows directed by Matthew Faughnan
- Category:Television programs directed by Paul Feig to Category:Television shows directed by Paul Feig
- Category:Television programs directed by Jonathan Frakes to Category:Television shows directed by Jonathan Frakes
- Category:Television programs directed by Bruce Gowers to Category:Television shows directed by Bruce Gowers
- Category:Television programs directed by Seth Green to Category:Television shows directed by Seth Green
- Category:Television programs directed by Robert Guenette to Category:Television shows directed by Robert Guenette
- Category:Television programs directed by Jack Haley Jr. to Category:Television shows directed by Jack Haley Jr.
- Category:Television programs directed by Hamish Hamilton (director) to Category:Television shows directed by Hamish Hamilton (director)
- Category:Television programs directed by Toby Haynes to Category:Television shows directed by Toby Haynes
- Category:Television programs directed by Dwight Hemion to Category:Television shows directed by Dwight Hemion
- Category:Television programs directed by Jim Henson to Category:Television shows directed by Jim Henson
- Category:Television programs directed by Louis J. Horvitz to Category:Television shows directed by Louis J. Horvitz
- Category:Television programs directed by Sam Jaimes to Category:Television shows directed by Sam Jaimes
- Category:Television programs directed by Chuck Jones to Category:Television shows directed by Chuck Jones
- Category:Television programs directed by Ward Kimball to Category:Television shows directed by Ward Kimball
- Category:Television programs directed by Don Roy King to Category:Television shows directed by Don Roy King
- Category:Television programs directed by Sidney Lumet to Category:Television shows directed by Sidney Lumet
- Category:Television programs directed by Hamilton Luske to Category:Television shows directed by Hamilton Luske
- Category:Television programs directed by Delbert Mann to Category:Television shows directed by Delbert Mann
- Category:Television programs directed by Jeff Margolis to Category:Television shows directed by Jeff Margolis
- Category:Television programs directed by Beth McCarthy-Miller to Category:Television shows directed by Beth McCarthy-Miller
- Category:Television programs directed by Bill Melendez to Category:Television shows directed by Bill Melendez
- Category:Television programs directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan to Category:Television shows directed by Sergio Mimica-Gezzan
- Category:Television programs directed by Don Mischer to Category:Television shows directed by Don Mischer
- Category:Television programs directed by Marty Pasetta to Category:Television shows directed by Marty Pasetta
- Category:Television programs directed by Bill Pope to Category:Television shows directed by Bill Pope
- Category:Television programs directed by Arthur Rankin Jr. to Category:Television shows directed by Arthur Rankin Jr.
- Category:Television programs directed by Phil Roman to Category:Television shows directed by Phil Roman
- Category:Television programs directed by Glenn Weiss to Category:Television shows directed by Glenn Weiss
- Category:Television programs directed by Joss Whedon to Category:Television shows directed by Joss Whedon
- Oppose this tree. It seems last year an editor changed some of these from episodes to programs and I can't find a discussion relevant to that. Since we have a parent tree for "Television episodes by" these should be changed to represent what these exactly are. As an example Category:Television programs directed by Paul Feig has only episodes. --Gonnym (talk) 10:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Gonnym, that sounds plausible in principle, and I AGF that it's right, but I haven't checked it myself.
However, when I look at Category:Television programs by director, I see that it is a subcat of Category:Television shows, not of Category:Television episodes. That parenting could be easily fixed, but it occurs to me that there must be a non-trivial set of cases where one person has directed a whole series ... it might be best to use a more inclusive title such as Category:Television programming by director, as a subcat of Category:Television programming.
So, if it would help: how about I open a full CFD discussion on this set, offering three options: shows, episodes, programming. I have tools to make such group noms easily, so it's no biggie for me to do it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:46, 5 July 2020 (UTC)- Sure, a CfD is probably best here. I'll note that Category:Television episodes by director had a CfD in 2011 which resulted in delete, however, it seems that the community is still adding these pages, just not under that name. --Gonnym (talk) 10:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Gonnym, that sounds plausible in principle, and I AGF that it's right, but I haven't checked it myself.
- Oppose this tree. It seems last year an editor changed some of these from episodes to programs and I can't find a discussion relevant to that. Since we have a parent tree for "Television episodes by" these should be changed to represent what these exactly are. As an example Category:Television programs directed by Paul Feig has only episodes. --Gonnym (talk) 10:32, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 5#Television programs by director. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Discussion was relisted on CFD 2020 July 17. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:19, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Roman sites to Category:Roman archaeological sites, C2C per Category:Archaeological sites by culture and Category:Ancient archaeological sites. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:05, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Roman sites in Africa to Category:Roman archaeological sites in Europe, C2C per Category:Archaeological sites in Africa. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Roman sites in Asia to Category:Roman archaeological sites in Europe, C2C per Category:Archaeological sites in Asia. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Roman sites in Europe to Category:Roman archaeological sites in Europe, C2C per Category:Ancient archaeological sites in Europe. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:01, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for above four. Most of the subcategories of Category:Archaeological sites by culture don't use "archaeological" (only 4 of the 26). Armbrust The Homunculus 06:10, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose, "archeological site" implies that archeology has been or could be conducted on them, which is untrue if the site is still standing, or is only known from written sources and has never been found. Abductive (reasoning) 21:01, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:19, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Croatian Canadian to Category:Croatian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Bulgarian Canadian to Category:Bulgarian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Ulster-Scottish Canadian to Category:Ulster-Scottish Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Welsh Canadian to Category:Welsh Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Scottish Canadian to Category:Scottish Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Manx Canadian to Category:Manx Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:English Canadian to Category:English Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:53, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:British Canadian to Category:British Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:53, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Belgian Canadian to Category:Belgian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:52, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Armenian Canadian to Category:Armenian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:52, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:European Canadian to Category:European Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:49, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Trinidadian and Tobagonian Canadian to Category:Trinidadian and Tobagonian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Jamaican Canadian to Category:Jamaican Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Haitian Canadian to Category:Haitian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Guyanese Canadian to Category:Guyanese Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:47, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Cuban Canadian to Category:Cuban Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Barbadian Canadian to Category:Barbadian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Caribbean Canadian to Category:Caribbean Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:45, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Syrian Canadian to Category:Syrian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Palestinian Canadian to Category:Palestinian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:03, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Moroccan Canadian to Category:Moroccan Canadians – C2A: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Libyan Canadian to Category:Libyan Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Lebanese Canadian to Category:Lebanese Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Egyptian Canadian to Category:Egyptian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Arab Canadian to Category:Arab Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:54, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Vietnamese Canadian to Category:Vietnamese Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Tibetan Canadian to Category:Tibetan Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:35, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Thai Canadian to Category:Thai Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:32, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Sri Lankan Canadian to Category:Sri Lankan Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Punjabi Canadian to Category:Punjabi Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Malaysian Canadian to Category:Malaysian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:28, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Korean Canadian to Category:Korean Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Japanese Canadian to Category:Japanese Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:25, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Filipino Canadian to Category:Filipino Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Taiwanese Canadian to Category:Taiwanese Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese Canadian to Category:Chinese Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Cambodian Canadian to Category:Cambodian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Odia Canadian to Category:Odia Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Bengali Canadian to Category:Bengali Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Bangladeshi Canadian to Category:Bangladeshi Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Afghan Canadian to Category:Afghan Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:South Asian Canadian to Category:South Asian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Ethiopian Canadian to Category:Ethiopian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:South African Canadian to Category:South African Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Somali Canadian to Category:Somali Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:African Canadian to Category:African Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Asian Canadian to Category:Asian Canadians – C2B: Plural per WP:SETCAT. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 22:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose this batch. @1234qwer1234qwer4: There was consensus at this discussion among others that these Booian Fooian categories should instead be moved to Category:Booian Fooian society, and there is also long-standing consensus that people categories should be at Category:Fooian people of Booian descent. This structure would make things a lot clearer, as I agree that these categories are currently very poorly named. See also these two relevant discussions from last year for sparsely populated categories. Place Clichy (talk) 01:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: Thanks for the info; would you mind creating a CfD or should I? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- @1234qwer1234qwer4: I don't mind if you create them. Place Clichy (talk) 05:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Since nothing has happened on this, I'll create the nomination. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion at Category:Croatian Canadian --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:41, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Since nothing has happened on this, I'll create the nomination. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 17:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- @1234qwer1234qwer4: I don't mind if you create them. Place Clichy (talk) 05:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy: Thanks for the info; would you mind creating a CfD or should I? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:18, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose this batch. @1234qwer1234qwer4: There was consensus at this discussion among others that these Booian Fooian categories should instead be moved to Category:Booian Fooian society, and there is also long-standing consensus that people categories should be at Category:Fooian people of Booian descent. This structure would make things a lot clearer, as I agree that these categories are currently very poorly named. See also these two relevant discussions from last year for sparsely populated categories. Place Clichy (talk) 01:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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