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*Admittedly I am not exactly an expert on the British-Irish conflict, but it seems to me that "(Northern) Irish Unionist" could work. "Unionist" is explicitly an ideology so it is not subject to dispute in the same way a raw nationality would be, yet it has intrinsic connotations of self-identified nationality. [[User: ChromaNebula|<span style="color:orange">Chroma</span><span style="color:green">Nebula</span>]] [[User talk: ChromaNebula|<span style="color:purple">(talk)</span>]] 21:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC) |
*Admittedly I am not exactly an expert on the British-Irish conflict, but it seems to me that "(Northern) Irish Unionist" could work. "Unionist" is explicitly an ideology so it is not subject to dispute in the same way a raw nationality would be, yet it has intrinsic connotations of self-identified nationality. [[User: ChromaNebula|<span style="color:orange">Chroma</span><span style="color:green">Nebula</span>]] [[User talk: ChromaNebula|<span style="color:purple">(talk)</span>]] 21:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC) |
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::Why on earth would we use anything about ideology in stating nationality in the lead? [[MOS:CONTEXTBIO]]'s statement that the nationality given for context should indicate "where the person was a citizen, national, or permanent resident when the person became notable" seems sufficient guidance here. Lewis was certainly not residing in Ireland during the period of his notability, and he was British (a citizen of the United Kingdom) throughout his entire life. The recurring discussions about this matter certainly become tiresome for someone who's been around here for a while. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 22:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC) |
::Why on earth would we use anything about ideology in stating nationality in the lead? [[MOS:CONTEXTBIO]]'s statement that the nationality given for context should indicate "where the person was a citizen, national, or permanent resident when the person became notable" seems sufficient guidance here. Lewis was certainly not residing in Ireland during the period of his notability, and he was British (a citizen of the United Kingdom) throughout his entire life. The recurring discussions about this matter certainly become tiresome for someone who's been around here for a while. [[User:Deor|Deor]] ([[User talk:Deor|talk]]) 22:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC) |
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In the occupation section or box, it's written he was "novelist" because he's written more than 30 novels. He's |
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published poems too, does that not make him a poet? [[Special:Contributions/41.114.119.127|41.114.119.127]] ([[User talk:41.114.119.127|talk]]) 16:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC) |
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Country of birth
The usual practice in infoboxes is to list the country of birth, which in this case was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Why isn't that mentioned? (I understand the consensus regarding Northern Ireland, and that has nothing to do with my question.) StAnselm (talk) 18:52, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
- Never mind, I see it is explicitly addressed at MOS:IMOS BIOPLACE. StAnselm (talk) 18:53, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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Please add the significant event of the same day as Mr Lewis' death, following the point in the text, "one week before his 65th birthday".
Text: "As many of you know, and so many people feel, this date was the ending of Camelot, the same day in which President John F. Kennedy was assassinated. How completely apropos, that Narnia and Camelot, if they were to end, should have their endings on the same day, all the more to indicate their significance". 2600:1010:B053:E490:0:45:52C4:E401 (talk) 06:20, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: WP:COATRACK which in addition has severe issues of encyclopedic tone (or lack thereof). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:36, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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Change ‘British writer’ to ‘Irish writer’ to match his own self identification, later quoted in this exact article - ‘then thank the gods that I am Irish’. 146.198.152.157 (talk) 15:30, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: Per consensus of multiple previous discussions. See also the information in the box at the top of the page. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 15:58, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
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(1) Combine two short (one sentence) sections in the biography section, regarding his declined Honour, and his accepted appointment to the chair at Magdalene, into one section, perhaps titled "Honours declined and accepted", or some such. The single sentence paragraphs are unnecessary and awkward. (2) Add an {{expand section | with = further information from reliable sources on these two decisions, and any other relevant honours accepted or declined | small = no | date = February 2022}} to this section, because both are under-reported, there being good further material on both decisions in reliable sources. (3) Finally, I would also suggest that the protections here be lifted as early as possible, once resources to protect against vandalism can be marshaled. It is against the defining, founding principles of the place, to maintain protections any longer than absolutely necessary. And it is not effective for small changes, let alone WP:BOLD edits, to be sidelined. Articles need to evolve, especially if the GA status is again desired. Cheers. 2601:246:C700:558:A90A:20A6:FEC:55AA (talk) 00:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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Nationality; both?
I hate to be 'that one' who suggests it, but in the sake of encyclopaedic integrity I think it should be brought up. I think the opening should read "was a British and Irish..."
When we look up a Welsh writer, or a Scottish writer, we see "Welsh" or "Scottish" listed as opposed to British. Lewis referred to himself as Irish, and he was born to a Unionist family in Co. Down so no doubt he was also British. In lieu of 'Irish' (as is the case with Scottish, English, Welsh authors from that period) I think the only reasonable wording would be "British and Irish". Just gauging POVs of editors, and if needed, admins.
Thanks, BBX118 20:51, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- Admittedly I am not exactly an expert on the British-Irish conflict, but it seems to me that "(Northern) Irish Unionist" could work. "Unionist" is explicitly an ideology so it is not subject to dispute in the same way a raw nationality would be, yet it has intrinsic connotations of self-identified nationality. ChromaNebula (talk) 21:54, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
- Why on earth would we use anything about ideology in stating nationality in the lead? MOS:CONTEXTBIO's statement that the nationality given for context should indicate "where the person was a citizen, national, or permanent resident when the person became notable" seems sufficient guidance here. Lewis was certainly not residing in Ireland during the period of his notability, and he was British (a citizen of the United Kingdom) throughout his entire life. The recurring discussions about this matter certainly become tiresome for someone who's been around here for a while. Deor (talk) 22:19, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
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In the occupation section or box, it's written he was "novelist" because he's written more than 30 novels. He's published poems too, does that not make him a poet? 41.114.119.127 (talk) 16:29, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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