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User change

Hey, I was wondering if you could verify something for me. For a long time, I've tried registering as user Jcarle, the account is created but it does not seem to be active, at all, if ever. If the account has never been active, would it be possible to have my account renamed from Jscarle to Jcarle? Thanks for any help you can give me. Jscarle 15:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

main page of tpi:

May I ask you to protect the main page of tpi: again and change the title of the main page to 'Pes fran' as suggested in 'Haus bilong toktok'? Thanks. -- Caffelice

Image:250px-Elsana taleb.jpg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:250px-Elsana taleb.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

Barnstar

I, MaxD, give you this barnstar for your numerous extremely knowledgable contributions to Wikipedia.

A Grant Idea

I would like to talk to Danny about a grant idea that I believe would help wikipedia and the wider community but am unsure how to contact him. If he could email me at Nbruch@gmail.com I would appreciate it. Thanks

Thanks from Lafayette!

Danny,

Thanks for coming to Lafayette and presenting to our small group. I've been extremely impressed with what the foundation has done and look forward to contributing to these worthwhile projects.

Danny Morgan

Nimrod Kamer (again)

check out this:

• Captain Sudoku
• Ari Libsker
• Maayan Strauss
• Girls At The Cairo National Stadium
• Big Tuna
• Doron Sabag
• Yossi Atia
• Yoav Tal
• Ilan the Security Guard

He also recreated Nimrod Kamer you had deleted.

Nimrod Kamer (2)

Dafna Arad - was deleted and now on AfD, please speedy it.

Ari Libsker, Maayan Strauss, Girls At The Cairo National Stadium (short film by Nimrod Kamer), Big Tuna, Doron Sabag, Vaan Nguyen, Ido Gideon, Roy Arad and RifRaf are also waiting for deletion.

Please answer me.... I'm tired from cleaning after him. He used sockpuppets in AFD's so you can speedy it.

Happy Birthday!

Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day, Danny!

HAve a great one :)

Magnus Hirschfeld

Hello Danny,

It's almost four years ago when you started this article. I have a question about two of your elements that still have been preserved in the Magnus Hirschfeld biography of today's Wikipedia. You mentioned as a fact that Hirschfeld, a gay man, participated in the gay subculture of Germany, and also, that he was a transvestite. I wonder what is your source for that. For the very moment his colleagues or his many readers would know Hirschfeld was a participating gay man or a transvestite, no one would take him seriously anymore.

I didn't find any material about this in the various English and German biographies of Hirschfeld, but maybe you did. There are several known instances of Hirschfeld showing gay bars and transvestite festivities to distinguished guests (for instance Arnold Aletrino). That Hirschfeld was called 'Auntie Magnesia' or 'Magnolia' has been documented, but not as a transvestite. If you have a source for his uncloseted homosexuality or his transvestism, please let us know. Soczyczi 00:46, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

A few days ago, I asked one of Hirschfeld's biographers, Manfred Herzer, to comment on his participation in the German gay subculture, and on his supposed transvestism. Herzer thought both elements 'balderdash' I'm afraid. I am going to delete the allegation in a few days, unless of course you come up with some substantiation. Soczyczi 07:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Aeschylus is a good article

Saw your notice on the bounty board. Aeschylus has been promoted to good article and is being reviewed and re-worked for eventual submission as a featured article. - Mocko13 17:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Always glad to help for a good cause. What do you mean, though, by saying I should pick your next bounty? Should I just name an article? - Mocko13 01:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Then how about Zheng He, from the vital articles list or the core biographies - don't rmember which? - Mocko13 02:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

You're famous!

Porchesia: 2006-2006. Today's Uncyclopedia featured article. --210.49.99.248 08:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

That is quite the delete button you've got there[1]! Do you know where I can get one of those? ;) Prodego ^talk 22:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Mindy Kaling

Is office protection for this article still needed? Thanks, Yonatan (contribs/talk) 17:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

It's been almost six months since the article has been protected over an entirely trivial dispute (stemming from a user who has been blocked indefinitely. The article should have been unprotected a long time ago.--DLand^TALK 16:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikimedia Vent(rilo)

I joined the Wikimedia ventrio and helping make it work. I went Vent before for mmo guilds, so I hope this works out greatly. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 03:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Porchesia

Why did you delete Porchesia? It's an actual island...--Aun'va 05:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Not any more--71.170.106.104 21:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Why?

• 00:53, 21 March 2007 Danny (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:Danny@metawiki from bureaucrat, steward, sysop to (none)
• 00:53, 21 March 2007 Danny (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:Danny@enwiki from bureaucrat, sysop to (none)

—Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 11:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Former_staff --AlisonW 14:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I was able to deduce that he resigned. Does he have a reason? —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 20:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Are those backwards? I don't see how Danny could de-Steward himself, then de-Bureaucrat himself. Prodego ^talk 20:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I am forgetting that the most recent are at the top, silly me. Prodego ^talk 20:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Danny's resignation statement can be read on the Foundation-l list. It doesn't answer your question, but it's what he's willing to share. -- llywrch 19:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I saw, Llywrch. In any case, I would update your user pages if I were you, Danny. —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 20:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for all the fish

Just make sure you have a decent rest before you get sucked back into the wikicrack ;-) - David Gerard 20:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what is or isn't going on (nor do I care to speculate), but best wishes from moi! בברכה, El_C 03:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I enjoyed talking with you at the meetup in DC. All the best in your new initiatives!—Perceval 21:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

FYI

Since you have been a big backer of FAs check this out: [2], there were 70 net FAs in March. -Ravedave 17:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:ZIAURRAHMANZIA (2).jpg

To add insult to injury, read the "fair use rationale" for this image, specifically the very last bullet point. You can check the history for how that happened. Jkelly 23:58, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Editing your userpage

I hope you don't mind. I didn't actually realise it was protected at the time. --Deskana (ya rly) 01:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

New optional RfA question

Danny, I left a new question at your RfA -- if you became an admin, would you add your name to Category:Administrators open to recall? I think this might reassure/shift some of the current "oppose" and "neutral" votes. This question is, of course, optional.

Good luck with your RfA. --A. B. ^(talk) 16:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for answering mine as well. Darn, I was considering changing to oppose after the history the others found, then you go and write something eminently reasonable. I don't suppose you could go and perform some blatant personal attacks or vandalism or something so that I could make up my mind? :-) --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 17:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. In a way it's admirable that you won't change your views to get votes. But in a way it also means you aren't that interested in the consensus of the community. You're very honest, and if you think you can adjust, I'll believe you; but the converse is also true, if you honestly believe you can't adjust, then, well, I have to believe that as well. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 20:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		Per Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Danny#No arguing 26000 edits is indisputably impressive. Thank you very much for that. AnonEMouse (squeak) 14:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Wow, you've still got majority support, but it's getting undisputably nasty. My condolences, you don't deserve that. I think I'll need to award you a purple heart barnstar in a few days at this rate. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 15:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Request for translation

You speak Hebrew, right? If so, could you refer to Image:Ariel_Upper_campus.jpg at Wikipedia:Possibly_unfree_images#April_3? A copyright licensing page is in Hebrew and we need a translation. It'd be really helpful. Thanks, Iamunknown 05:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The question I asked at your RfA

Danny, I don't want to clutter up your RfA page by pressing a point with regard to a question that you haven't answered as clearly or as fully as I had hoped. I asked what your position was with regard to linking to sites that publish real names of Wikipedia editors or their addresses, phone number, photos, etc. You asked how linking to such sites would enhance the quality of the encyclopaedia, and how it was relevant to your performance as an administrator. I replied that there is an article on Brandt, and that there was one about ED, and that the question as to whether such articles should have external links to the websites is relevant to the question of building the encyclopaedia. With regard to the relevance of this to your performance as an administrator, I pointed out that administrators have the power to block people who post such links, to protect pages where such links are being posted, and to delete versions of page histories. Administrators also have the power to unblock someone who has been blocked for posting such links, or to unprotect a page that another administrator had protected for that reason. You replied that if it is the policy of the Foundation not to link to those sites, you would enforce it, but that admins don't make policy.

I realise that admins don't make policy. However, admins do have personal feelings, and as a result of those personal feelings will act differently from other admins in borderline cases. It's clear that policy forbids vandalism, but it isn't always clear whether or not an edit really is vandalism. Even in cases where it is clear, some administrators will immediately indefinitely block a newly-registered account that vandalises one single article once. Others may issue a warning, and then block for 24 hours. They could both say, "If the policy of the Foundation is not to allow vandalism, I will enforce it", but they still take different approaches. An administrator who thinks that edit warring is the very, very worst thing for Wikipedia will almost certainly block someone who lost count and accidentally made a fourth revert within 24 hours. An administrator who takes a more easy-going approach will probably not block unless the user has made six or seven reverts, in spite of warnings. I don't need to spend a lot of time reading admin noticeboards to realise that some administrators are far more likely than others to block someone for making a personal attack.

So, while admins don't make policy, they do use their own judgment in borderline cases or in cases where policy is unclear. I have seen administrators replacing template warnings which a user had removed from his talk page, and I have seen different cases where administrators threatened to block a user who replaced warnings that another user had removed from his own talk page. It would be a very poor admin who would allow his personal views on article content to affect his admin actions (like blocking pro-life 3RR violators at Abortion, and ignoring pro-choice 3RR violators), but an admin's personal views on policy will certainly affect the admin decisions he takes. In the issue that I expressed interest in, it's possible that an admin could revert the addition of a link, block the user who had posted it (perhaps after a warning), and then delete and partially restore the page. Another admin might revert the addition of a link, but not delete the page or block the person who had posted it. Another admin might revert a live link, but ignore the posting of a nowiki'd one. One admin might take action if a link is posted to the main page of a site that has subpages which harass editors. Another admin might only take action if a link is posted to the actual pages in question.

I realise that these questions on an RfA are optional, and I get the impression from your two answers that you don't want to be more specific. For example, you didn't ask Geogre what the role of IRC has to do with your performance as an admin; you gave him a long answer. If you don't wish to comment further, I accept and respect that. But I hope you can appreciate that this optional question was not at all an irrelevant one. The Foundation is unlikely to give a complete list of every site that may not be linked to, so admins will have to use their judgment about new harassing sites, and about whether links should be reverted or deleted from histories, and about whether people should be blocked for posting a nowiki'd URL. Their judgment in a particular case will be affected by the general position they take on the whole issue. Very obviously, the proportion of admins who take a strict or lenient position on this will have an impact on how Wikipedia is run.

I would have liked a fuller answer, but I may well support your RfA anyway. Best wishes, ElinorD (talk) 11:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

"The Foundation is unlikely to give a complete list of every site that may not be linked to"

We have the spam blacklist... Yonatan ^talk 13:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply on my talk page, Danny. I'm satisfied with it, and I support your RfA. Best of luck. ElinorD (talk) 19:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding suicide threat

Hello. I am mostly a contributer to Wikinews. Before I start my talk page is here.

I was wondering if you can provide a statement regarding the suicide threat by PatPeter for a possible article on the situation. I say possible bacuse this is a fairly new situation (only a few hours old...about 10hours) and I don't want to jump the gun on an article.

• I see that you called the police. What did they say? Was a report filed? What will happen next?

• Was there a checkuser performed on the user in question? If not...why?

• What caused, if you know, the user to make such a threat?

• Has the foundation been contacted regarding this ie. Jimbo?

• Was this user known in the WP community?

I was informed of this by a user here on WP who ocassionaly contributes to Wikinews and was interestd in preventing what ever bad press this could generate. This is only a few hours old, but if media outlets in the US get a hold of this, or the user does turn up dead...his evidence left behind could be a note or something that could blame Wikipedia for this. We don't know if he is a nut or normal and the media would tear this apart.

My part is to make sure, if the media does report this, that Wikipedia and the foundation used and took all the proper measures to make sure that this did not happen or could be prevented as well as providing moral support for the user.

Like I said, I want to get the fuill story first and the right information before I do anything, if anything. Your quick reply, when you are able to, is appreciated.

I would prefer a response on my Wikinews talk page, provided in the link at the top of this message. Thank you for your time. DragonFire1024 04:56, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

File:Haig-award.png		The General Alexander Haig Medal of Honor
		For taking charge in a crisis. AnonEMouse (squeak) 14:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Your RfA (yet again)

I am impressed by that optional statement you made, hwoever I would suggest moving it to the discussion section above the votes to give it more visibility. Viridae^Talk 00:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Danny. I'll check my email in a minute, and if I don't get around to replying today, will do so as soon as possible tomorrow. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 02:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I've now replied to your email. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 19:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Replied. Flcelloguy (A note?) 19:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement

RE: Category:Public domain images from ww2incolor.com It is possible you are unaware of the category but for the record- these are not PD images. They are scanned from books (where they are attributed) and uploaded by anonymous users to ww2incolor.com. ww2incolor.com engages in a thief's charter of "we don't know, we don't ask" which wikia treats as if it means all images hosted there are PD. "Copyrighted Image laundering" is a good description of the process.

wikia does the same for photographs from the LOC Prints and Photographs Division. When an image on LOC is marked as being in an unknown copyright status any user on wikia can transform that unknown into a status of "Public Domain". This happens despite the LOC making it clear that the responsibility of establishing copyright is up to the user, in this case the uploader to wikia. Color and B&W images from the period are copyright under EU law. Fair use is allowed only when non free images don't exist, in the cases where color images from period are used on wikia, there are plenty of free images available. These are basic facts also being ignored.

I'd suggest immediate removal of the cat and images. I'd suggest close scrutiny of images dating to the period which exist on wikia and deletion of all originating from sites like ww2incolor. You may also want to place the site on the spamlist. Making it mandatory to provide cited, details on source/photographer/copyright before images get uploaded would help prevent theft. No details, no upload. No upload, no legal threats.

Now, after deciding to avoid the torturous image removal process, when I encounter stolen images on the site I have decided not to engage in process, I go direct to the copyright holder who then go legal. You really need to make the site less friendly to thieves, and more friendly to holders of copyright. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.198.19.227 (talk) 14:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

Thanks for the note

If you weren't working under the Office authority, then you were either working as a normal admin/editor at Meta and Wikipedia or as a Foundation employee. If it's the latter what authority does any foundation employee have at Wikipedia other than the local authority the community may have given them? In any event, my point is that whatever tools you used under whatever authority were used pretty rashly, no? Look, I know how big a role you've played here and when this all started I wondered why it was even necessary to go through RFA. But Flcelloguy really struck a chord with me, we've had a decent number of problems with admins being hasty with the blocking tools resulting in desysoppings, Jimbo having to step in, arbcom cases and general shit storms that I think that how someone uses the tools is important along with what authority they are using them and why...thanks. RxS 14:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

So you were working under Office authority, but not of your own volition. But at least in my mind, Flcelloguy's questions aren't answered. I don't understand why you don't see how his outline might cause concern in some editors minds especially since Jimbo felt he had to step in and undo a couple of your actions. Anyway, it is what it is...we're not building tanks for a war we're losing as they say so one way or another it'll work out. RxS 15:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

supplemental statement at RfA

The seven points that you made in your supplemental statement at the RfA are impressive and won my support. Good luck! --Kevin Murray 15:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh I liked that bit myself. I hope you keep it readily findable in a collection of wikiessays. I am glad you put yourself up for adminship again [again], and hope we can all find some combination of keeping requirements low (much lower than they are today) and revisiting adminship for everyone (a reminder that it is a functionary duty that people pick up while active, not a personal title carried with one for life). It's true we haven't always seen eye to eye, but think how dull it would be if Wikipedia was populated by people who all saw the world, or the encyclopedia, the same way? I rather doubt either of us would be here if that were the case. Be well, +sj + 03:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

RFA Question---Thanks

Thank you for answering the question. Your answer is OK with me. I voted support and right now do not intend to change it. Good luck! Wooyi^{Talk, Editor review} 15:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Promotion

Danny - with consensus of the other bureaucrats, I've closed your RFA as successful. You know what to do with the mop. Raul654 03:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on becoming an administrator! I am sure that you will do an excellent job. Warofdreams talk 03:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congrats! Take it easy ... at least until everyone shuts up. ;) — Rebelguys2 ^talk 03:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! My first ever nomination, too. I'm honored. --Cyde Weys 03:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Danny! I would compare your nomination as the confirmation controversy of Samuel Alito, no offense. I believe you will be excellent with the tools. Wooyi^{Talk, Editor review} 03:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back! Do you plan to become steward again? I never would have dreamed about this RfA of yours happening.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. (talk) 03:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congrats, let me know if you need me to show you how to use the tools(kidding of course). ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 03:40, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Danny. I wish you well. Viridae^Talk 03:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations from downunder Danny - I appreciate your comment on your user page. I opposed but my congratulations are sincere and I look forward to seeing you at work.--VS ^talk 04:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Same as VS, except for the downunder part :) —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 04:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congrats, Danny! I look forward to seeing you around. Its good to see a familiar wiki-face :-P --Iamunknown 04:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Danny! --WinHunter ^(talk) 04:28, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Erm...what just happened? First you gave up your admin powers 2 weeks ago, then you got them back. What happened? Anyways congrats!--PrestonH^{(Sandbox) • (Sign Here!)} 05:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm really bored, so I added the mop to your page. Feel free to revert. Oh, and congrats! Real96 05:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hopping on the bandwagon for the congrats. :) --Golbez 06:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Good luck; I hope I was wrong. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 14:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I supported your re-adminship, but I very much hope you will read and take to heart my comments here. Regards, Newyorkbrad 14:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I wish you my sincere congratulations. I voted to oppose because we place different emphasis on some policy items, but I believe the RFA turned into a bit of a pile-on that was unfair to you. I look forward to your diligent effort and wish you the best in in your future Wikipedia endeavors. I know you have what's best for WP at heart. -- Meersan 20:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, good luck. I opposed your candidacy but I will say that you did the right thing in resigning the bit to begin with. I have serious objections to Dan's conduct in promoting you (see [3] and [4]) but of course I don't hold you accountable for that. So, good luck and please prove us wrong. Haukur 21:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

congratulations Danny. I had some harsh comments during this RFA, just know none of them were personal (I don't even know you so it would be hard for them to have been personal)...My big deal with this was that community concensus was more important than one mans opinion here. The users have spoken (and yes, on close calls like this I count what the crats did as the community speaking, the crats were voted in by the community so they could server as the community voice when its otherwise unclear); it would be hypocritical for me to not hold myself to the same standard that I held you to. That said, thanks for all you have done, and all you will do in the future for the project. --Michael Lynn 22:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

• Hello Danny, congratulations on your re-adminship. Best of luck, Johntex\^talk 06:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

• Welcome back, Danny -- Avi 15:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
• 'Grats!Drahcir^{my talk}_{get my skin} 00:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
• Congratulations, I really appreciate the message you left on your user page. Why you couldn't have said that during your RFA I don't know, but I am happy to hear it. Have fun with the mop!:) -Ravedave 04:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Mazal Tov! And please come back to work

מזל טוב! I hope u did not change from all the criticisms of your harshness, because 68% of us clearly craves your iron fist-ed leadership in chaotic situations.

Now as u told us in Yiddish wiki that all requests will be processed within the 12 hours of notifying you, so please wake up from the late-night partying of your promotion and do some much needed sysop block of vandalism [5]thanks--yidi 12:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Tobias Conradi

This user just made a rather strange accusation on the talk page for your RFB.[6] I don't really understand, and I doubt many people will take it seriously, but I thought you should know in case you'd care to respond in any way. -Hit bull, win steak^(Moo!) 00:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

WP:AN thread probably of interest to you

I understand this is a topic of concern to you. You may want to comment. WP:AN#Shall_we_expand_principle_of_indef_blocking_vandalism-only_accounts_and_nuke_COI-only_accounts.3F Durova^Charge! 14:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:pnc nominated for deletion

See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Template:pnc for the discussion, which will certainly spill over into larger issues. Your thoughts would be appreciated. --Kevin Murray 23:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

BLP proposal

Danny, would you mind commenting on this proposal? The idea is that we should reverse the presumption in favor of deletion when it comes to BLPs. That is, if a BLP is nominated for deletion, whether by the subject or anyone else, there would have to be a consensus in favor of keeping it; without that, it would be deleted. This won't solve all our BLP problems, but it would make it easier to deal with borderline notable ones that possibly ought not to exist. It would also be very simple to implement. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

You might have more...

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixindex&from=criticism&namespace=0

I see: Criticism of George W. Bush, Criticism of Hugo Chávez, Criticism of Bill O'Reilly, Criticism of Noam Chomsky, Criticism of Tony Blair, Criticism of Ted Stevens...

And this isn't even mentioning "Criticism of (insert name of religion or organization here)", that also contain criticism of adherents or members. Mahalo. A hui hou. --Ali'i 21:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your 19:38, 30 April 2007 edit of Prospect Park (Brooklyn)

Hi Danny,

I notice that around April 30 you were busily tagging many pages with {{Template:geolinks-start}} tags, including the one above, which had already been tagged on 17:55, 10 March 2007 with the now deprecated {{coor title dms}} form. Since that time (on my Firefox browser, at least) both templates are slapping links over one another: a bit messy. You've been significantly engaged in Wikipedia for some time, a real old hand by many standards, so I'm bemused to be advising you to check for (and clean up) older coordinate tags before sticking newer forms on the page. Was the older template not resolving anying in your flavor of browser, deceiving you into thinking that nothing was there at all?

I'm cleaning up the conflict (done). I see that you are starting out at a wide, regional level, so that the park is quite small. I think that is better (but I had to convince myself). It does give readers from far away the picture that Prospect Park is in the New York metropolitan region, which wasn't clear at the street scale which the older template used. Take care! — Gosgood 13:24, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of the Digg screenshot

When you speedied the image at Image:HD DVD Night Digg Frontpage Screenshot before rose blog post.png the reason you gave was "too many reasons to count", which really isn't very helpful. Could you pop in at Talk:AACS encryption key controversy#Digg screenshot note and perhaps expand on that a bit? There doesn't seem to have been any significant discussion of this anywhere I can find. Bryan Derksen 02:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Joining in on that. There are no policies vilated AFAIK, so if there are any, please do specify! Kirils 15:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Agree. Please specify.Konekoniku 22:08, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi u have been sysoped second time in yi

Please come in and take care of some series sockpupetry going on there. Read about it on your yi talk page, thanks very much.--yidi 11:14, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Main page FA image

The article is about the art, not the man, making the replacement image inappropriate. Fair use images are allowed, and have a long history of being allowed, on the main page, per Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria exemptions. Besides which, messing about with it the day of, when it was selected for the main page five days ago, is unfair to the article's editors. I'd appreciate it if you could reinstall the original artwork. Thanks, Doctor Sunshine talk 02:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Please note that after a very long discussion at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content criteria exemptions#Removing exception in policy for "Main Page", the consensus was that having non-free images on the main page was not in keeping with the goals of Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. You will see the edit changing the page to reflect consensus here. It has not been reverted. Times have changed, as have expectations for the mainpage. Mak (talk) 03:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I took part in the Scooby Doo discussion. You'll note that the board's release about fair use images only iterated polices already in use and did not change anything. Fair use images have been used on the main page for the past 3 years. The small sect of editors have interpreted this otherwise and attempted to remove the exemption but, as you'll see on the exemption's talk page, they were unsuccessful. Doctor Sunshine talk 03:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

It is a small sect of editors. No consensus was reached. And unrelated or marginally-related images hurt the quality and professionalism of Wikipedia. The picture of Warhol is slightly better than the dogs used in place of Scooby Doo, which was comical, but it's still misleading. Please point me to the policy that says free images are no longer allowed on the front page. And I wonder if you might consider continuing this here so that anyone else interested might join in. Doctor Sunshine talk 03:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually would you mind if i copied our discussion there? Doctor Sunshine talk 03:27, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Great. Done. Doctor Sunshine talk 03:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Kayfabe

Hi Danny, you appear to have accidentally deleted the history at Kayfabe. 131.111.195.8 15:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Han-Na Chang

Hi Danny, why the deletion of Chang's official site at [7]? Just because it's in Korean?

Terry Carroll 18:14, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Password change

• Hi there. I'd like to change my password, but apparently I've forgotten my old one (I've had this account a long time and never cleared out my cookies). Could you give me a suggestion, or perhaps change my password for me? Thanks. JuJube 03:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

בעייה בשמות חודשים לועזיים - ביידיש

דני שלום ! היפנו אותי אליך בבעיה הבאה:
לאט לאט נבנית התשתית ללוחות שנה - ביידיש - ראה yi:באַניצער:DMY/ארגז חול 2.
בעייה שנתקלתי בה היא השימוש בפונקציה ‎#time:F‏ שאמורה לתת שם של חודש בשפה המקומית לדוגמה באנגלית: {{‎#time:F}}‏ = July. הבעייה ביידיש שבמקום מיי (השם הסטנדרטי עבור חודש מאי ביידיש - שמופיע גם בחתימות ~~~~) מופיעה המילה מעי. תופעה דומה ברוב החודשים הלועזיים - מה שעושה לי בלגן בלינקים של לוחות השנה.
לפני שאני פותר באמצעות switch (ומתפלל שלא אעבור את מגבלות ויקימדיה) - האם תוכל לפתור את הבעיה הזו?
${\mathbb {\color {Blue}_{DMY}} }$ User page Talk 08:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

RFA

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Gracenotes is as messy as your RFA, hopefully you will comment on it from your experience. :P Wooyi^{Talk to me?} 19:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

cquote

Hi Danny,

{{cquote}} is for pullquotes. It should not be used for ordinary quotes that are part of the article flow; use {{quote}} instead. (Some of us feel that there is no place for pullquotes on Wikipedia at all, but that's entirely another issue)

Cheers, Hesperian 23:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism in Yiddish Wikipedia

Hi Danny, thank god, it has been a long time since i had to call your help, i have an issue with a user, yi:באַניצער:יעקלראציגער who hasn't really written a single edit in normal name space pages,[8] but only reverting and edit wars, now he found a trick to vandalism the front page uploading a pic and giving it the name of the Yiddish wikipedia logo it should replace it with his pic on the front page he just replaces it with וועקי-פעדיע instead of -פעדיעוויקי intending to call us wacky [9] the file name is wiki.png, please protect the file name or block the user. thank loads--זלמן לייב 13:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with him about that user, that user should be warned and blocked, he is just there for trouble. Thank you--Shmaltz 03:54, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Maintenance in Yiddish wikipedia

A whole list of articles that aren't in edit war everybody agrees to erase please take care of it. [10]--זלמן לייב 10:12, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Rumaisa Rahman

I understand your reasons for deleting this, but since the information originally present in this article was merged into premature birth does the GFDL not require that we maintain the redirect? the wub "?!" 12:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

GFDL applies to content, not information. --Tony Sidaway 13:54, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

But the text was copied directly from the RR article (which has a history going back to December 2004) with some cleanup [11]. the wub "?!" 15:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Meetup

Dear Danny,

You have either attended or expressed interested in the previous NYC Meetup. I would like to invite you to the First Annual New York Wikipedian Central Park Picnic. R.S.V.P. @ Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC -- Y not? 14:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Board of Trustees election in June 2007?

I thought there was supposed to be a Board election this month; that was the Board's stated intention in December 2006.[12] I also thought you would be a candidate.

So did I miss something? What do I do with all these bumper stickers I printed? --A. B. ^(talk) 07:23, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the signpost answered your question. Prodego ^talk 22:32, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure, but

Yes, it has been. Since a nasty experience several years ago I disabled my e-mail setting on Wikipedia, so I cannot e-mail you. But you can e-mail me at slrubenstein at yahoo dot com Best, Steve

Possibly unfree Image:Warsaw Ghetto 2.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Warsaw Ghetto 2.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. -SCEhardT 02:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Gia Long and Vietnamese history

Hi Danny. I'm not sure if you have any interest in Vietnamese history, but if you do and you have access to sources which cover the pre-2oth century stuff in more detail, then I would like to hear from you. Unfortunately, what I have used appears to be the extent of my university's collection on this era. The French and Vietnamese sources that those books refer to as the authoritative accounts are not unfortunately stocked by the library. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Barukh HaGever

Thanks for the heads-up on this. I have corrected the article. Take a look. --Ravpapa 09:01, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Arabs and India

Hi. Thanks for adding this citation [13]. I'm aware that the Arabs invaded Sindh in the 8th century, but the sentence in the article was referring to the 12th and 13th centuries, and I'm not sure there were any Arabs involved in that region by that time. Are you sure that's what the source says? I'd check it myself but I have no way of accessing the article at the moment. Thanks. Slacker 08:23, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Redirect of Hypnophobia

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To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Hypnophobia, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Please note, this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Hypnophobia itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. --Android Mouse Bot 2 01:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Birthday

Meta-wiki tells me we share the same birthday. How neat! :-) - Alison ☺ 09:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

WMF BOD election

Good Luck! I voted for you. Jerry 02:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Australia

Hi Danny. I'm not sure what ref you were trying to fix, but you appear to have reverted over a month's worth of changes. I've undone the edit. Thanks,--cj | talk 03:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Please help in guarding other users privacy

Hi Danny i understand u r too busy these days running for board, i share your belief and i voted for you, but please don't neglect your prior duties which u were elected for. you are an elected sysop in yi. wiki why r u not active there? Please show us that our trust in you will not be in vain. Please show us that your strong fiber doesn't get corrupted in politics, i know its a controversial time for you now but if you waiver now in your duties you have failed the biggest test because all spotlights are on you now. Please lock user who exposes privacy and identity of other user/ This user yi:באַניצער:יודל קרויס has the privacy of a real name [14] created this night and blocked already. but his sockpupet isn't blocked. This user yi:באַניצער:Joel.m should also be blocked due to check user results [15] who has shown it to be the guy responsible for the action that exposes privacy of other users.--יודל 14:52, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Good job

Thank you for catching that Eisenhower and German POWs posting, which both fails on its evidence and smacks of Nazi-sympathizer historical revisionism. Sometimes Wikipedia seems a step away from posting Joe McCarthy's rants about the Malmeddy massacre. What next? The Berlin Airlift was a secret plot to induce Germans to accomodate their appetites to American food products? Their evidence will be forged memo by Kraft foods and clipped German newspaper coupons. Although large human suffering deserves a record, these charges also require proper evidence. Something like the solid research and strong evidence on the Holocaust.

king lear

Please remember to mark your edits, as you did to King Lear as minor when (and only when) they genuinely are minor edits (see Wikipedia:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one (and vice versa) is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you. Bendž|Ť 20:58, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Cquote

Please do not change the blockquote in Pseudostigmatidae to use the cquote template again. Even the documentation for Template:Cquote warns against using it for block quotes in article text, which is what this clearly is. I pointed that out the first time, so I really don't think it was appropriate for you to re-revert with no explanation and mark the change minor. —Celithemis 21:30, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

battle of jenin - hebrew source dispute

since you are fluent in hebrew i figured i'll ask you for a 3rd opinon on a dispute.

basically, gush-shalom reprinted an article by "7 days" (מוסף 7 ימים), and they also made an english translation of the page, however on the translated page they added a bunch of unverifiable POV additions and no one bothered to sign these.

the dispute is due to a user who insists the source is valid... would appreciate your third opinion here.

with respect, Jaakobou 20:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

note: i'm perfectly fluent in hebrew and english, however, User:PalestineRemembered insists that a POV source which adds personal interpretations to a hebrew text should be used. there is a current debate where two users are trying to "push" this unprofessional source because it fits their perspective on the subject. i figured you being able to read hebrew and english could weigh in with a 3rd opinion on this one. Jaakobou 10:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for copyediting the Flag of Armenia article.--Crzycheetah 01:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Decorating Lion with some Hebrew characters

Dear Danny, fancy adding the hebrew letters for Lion labi in the etymology section? I always like having terms in original characters about the place. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. thanks! cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

French Bible's Translations

Bonjour Danny. J'ai vu sur "Wikisource" vos traductions de la Bible. J'ai mis un message sur votre page de discussion. Je vous signale l'existence du software WebCodex qui crée une database des versets bibliques, et contient un moteur de recherche efficace. Voici deux exemples d'application :

Sur Sefarim.fr est disponible toute la Bible hébraïque en hébreu, en anglais (Mechon Mamre) et en français (Traduction du Rabbinat) . Sur judeopedia.org est disponible le Pentateuque (Torah) en hébreu, en latin (Vulgate), en anglais (King James) et dans trois versions françaises (Louis Segond, Darby, Cahen (version juive du 19ème siècle)). L'Association Judeopedia vise à développer cette application "aux textes fondateurs de la tradition juive", Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash ...

MLL, 8 juillet 2007

WP:Spotlight

Hey, recently the WP:Spotlight article was changed. GM and I are kidna trying to rekindle the project (which seemed to be dying), so if your interested it would be great to have you join us in our attempt to fix Environmentally friendly. --22:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Heads up

Hi Danny, I wanted to let you know that I had substantially expanded an entry you started, Ir Ovot. I wouldn't want you to suddenly see it on the Main on the chance that it goes up for DYK ;-) Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 05:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

On this subject, I was hoping that you could corroborate/source the passage that you initially added (regarding its founding, hostility, and IDF lobbying), as its now up for GA. Cheers, Tewfik^Talk 19:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Task Force

You are being recruited by the Salem Witch Trials Task Force, a collaborative project committed to improving Wikipedia's coverage of the Salem witch trials. Join us!

Psdubow 22:26, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Special link

I want to do something and I found you apropiate to help me. I need to know if I can put an image to link to a normal page and not to it self, for example: If I insert [[Image:Stacheldraht_93.jpg|30px]] (picture about a rustic wire), when I put the mouse over the picture I want to click and link to [[List of colors]] (for example).

I wonder if this is posible and if so, hope you wish to help me out.

For your attention, thanks! (I hope this mesage wont bother you)

-- Damërung ^{...ÏìíÏ...}_{_ΞΞΞ_} . -- 21:27, 12 July 2007 (GMT-5) --Damërung 02:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you can:

Remove the line with "desc none" to show an icon to link to the description page. The numbers refer to the size of the link, I used really large numbers to make sure the whole image would be covered. Prodego ^talk 02:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

"removing fair use image"

What's the rationale for this removal? Please explain in the article's talk page. Thanks. -- Hoary 15:42, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Removing fair use image from Robert Benchley

In this edit you removed Image:Howtosleep.jpg, a still from How to Sleep, described in the article as Benchley's best known work, in which he was both the narrator and the actor, the one for which he won an Academy award. If that by itself isn't enough, there is a fine "Fair use in Robert Benchley:" section on the image page itself. Please restore. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed I'm not the only person complaining. Merging this comment as a subheading of the previous one. It has been almost half an hour since Hoary's comment, and you haven't responded. With all due respect, I'm going to revert per Wikipedia:Bold, revert, discuss, and if you still believe it should be removed, then discuss on the article talk page, before removing. Thank you. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh my goodness! He hasn't edited in that time! Not everyone spends every waking minute checking their talk pages! I suspect Danny goes for the BRD mode of editing as well, except perhaps when it comes to libelous information. If it were me, I'd just revert without making a fuss, and let Danny respond if he so desired. Not every edit needs to be made into a mountain. Mak (talk) 16:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

That's what's being done here. No mountain. I generally ask someone before reverting their work, that's called WP:1RR#Explain_reverts. In this case it seems someone else asked already. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 16:33, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I thought 1RR (which I try to follow) was about giving good reverting edit summaries, and then discussing if someone disagrees. Not about whinging on someone's talk page every time you disagree with an edit. apologies for whinging on your talk page, Danny Mak (talk) 17:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Then maybe I misunderstood. I read that whole essay, and especially that section, with words like "A nice thing to do is to drop the note on the Talk page first, and then revert, rather than the other way round." as specifically that whinging on someone's talk page every time you disagree with an edit is actually recommended. If that is not what it means, then I guess I have been wrong; that is what I usually try to do. I like to think of it as squeaking rather than whinging, though, goes along with the Mouse motif and all. :-) --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 18:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Removing image of California State seal

You recently removed the image of the California State seal from California Gold Rush. Perhaps you could explain why you did so. Without researching the matter, it would seem to me that use of the California State seal in this article would be permissible fair use. For example, I still the image displayed at Seal of California. Could you educate me as to legal standards you used? NorCalHistory 19:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Russophobia

Russophobia, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Russophobia satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russophobia and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Russophobia during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi admin. There are problem with one user - User:LiveLife, who often removing one external link on page Delara Darabi. This is www.savedelara.com - about a large campaing dedicated to Save Delara, but retains other links. This is totally POW. Darth Kalwejt 11:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

yiddish wikipedia sysop abuse

Hi, Danny i am sadened you were short 30 votes i voted for u for board member, i am sure your futre is promising to build up our global information comunity. we cannot thank u enough for the service u have given us untill now. I dont know if you remeber but in the past you have desysoped a sysop in our small yiddish wiki comunity. This guy is again there now blocking users right and left. Today i am blocked from [16] infinite exess there becouse in his opinion i am yudel. Please look into this and lets make a checkuser on yudel to block yudel once and for all. I dont feel i have to be the secrefice becouse of yudel. Please look into this matter.--208.125.30.152 16:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

How could you have voted for Danny if you don't have the required edits? You must have another name, that is reason enough to block you. --Shmaltz 02:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

To the first guy i want to tell u not to waste any words here. You are not the only one from now on 10 peaple will be blocked every day. and three others are already blocked. Danny wont do nothing, he is a men that says one think and does another think. He promised the yiddish wiki community that he will answer our calls for help within 16 hours, and thats why we dysyoped 20 people and made him sysop. Yet we begged him to block sockpupets and he was silent. We begged him to block vandals and he was silent. Now that all those sockpupets and vandals were free to hijack the community again by making themselves sysops he wont do anything because now they are a "community" so let him alone. now that he lost the board membership position he wont have the slightest interest in helping out a language project he does not speak. Lets thank him for his trying something at the time he worked in the office. Now its time to say full heartedly we have given it all and the blame is solely on Danny and not on the Yiddish speakers. He has asked the community to desysop 20 people for his service that has never ever come, he never kept his word, not one single call for help was answered by him! Now that the Yiddish Wikipedia is in the hands of the Rabbis who are by the opinion that Internet and the open medium of information is a bad think. Its time to move on. Thanks to Danny!--71.247.143.158 11:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I am here to testify that Danny has done his utmost to save our Yiddish project, in the busiest hectic days he always was ready and willing to help. It must be stated clerly that Danny is not a Baby sitter if the Yiddish community cannot grow up by itself Danny cannot do nothing he is no longer in the foundation and that unfortunately is now a hardship for all small projects that go through this kinds of struggles. No wikipedia is dead when vandals and sockpupets hijack it and manipulate their power control and censorship, all this is, is a birth pain of the project to take off, we have to realize that the Yiddish language is a very unique and hard dream to make it come true in a full free and open encyclopedia when most of its users are opposed to the ideal of freedom of information itself, they despise Internet, television and all open and free worldly media. i am optimistic and hopeful more then ever that this will help the Yiddish language speakers to redeem them from their fanatical strict society structure with the power of knowledge. lets not forget they keep blocking us daily. they erase all our edits. they lock everything. but they are essentialy sanctifying the wikipedia medium by this. we have to look at this project like the Tehran and china projects. All society's were at once very primitive and closed. Unfortunately Danny understood this from his experience as a Jew, the current board leadership don't yet get it because they are still new. it will take them time but in the end of the day i am positive they will get it as well. So Danny please feel that we love you and we will for eternity be grateful for your service to our project. Peace and success in all your future endeavours.--יודל 13:54, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

If anybody here has any doubts that User:71.247.143.158 is not יודל, then ask me for the evidence.--Shmaltz 15:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE STOP. What does it take to get your attention?

I asked you above to please stop misusing the Cquote template for block quotations that are part of the article text, since the template is only for pull quotes. User:Hesperian did the same in May. Yet again, today, you used this template on Megaloprepus caerulatus, in a situation virtually identical to the one I complained about before.

It may be a minor matter, but I am really getting frustrated about the way you continue to mess up the formatting of articles I write that are on the front page. Doing the same thing over and over despite objections, while refusing to communicate at all, is the kind of behavior expected from a clueless newbie, not an administrator. Please do not do this again. —Celithemis 22:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

More lionizing

Dear Danny, I thought we'd try and get the whole capitalization issue sorted before we lionized further so I wanted to get everyone's feelings on it - all input into the capitalization debate on lion talk page much appreciated.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

USHMM

The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is apparently going to be doing some edits to Wikipedia over the next month or two. They'll be using the account User:USHMMwestheim. I figured you should have a heads up about it - one imagines there won't be any problems. Phil Sandifer 16:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

For History of Russia

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		You were incredible on that page, despite having a lot of editors not able to help you out (including myself). Great job. danielfolsom 15:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

seconded! You going to get on IRC shortly? —— Eagle101^{Need help?} 18:33, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Tok Pisin Wikipedia/Wiktionary progress report

Thanks for your help in my approval for temp sysop/administrator.  I put the permissions to work immediately I received them.  I'm writing progress reports on the project, you can view them here Would you also be so kind as to advise Shanel of my work? I'm in a rush to leave for a short vacation to visit inlaws and friends in Canada. Thanks  K. Kellogg-Smith 14:04, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment on the contribution, not the contributor

Come on, man, you know this. I don't have to point you to a policy, do I? Write "look, here are four times in the last few months she did this and this", and heck, I could even join you in opposing. But don't just make comments about her personality, show how it affects her as an editor. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 18:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

July 2007

(thoughtless template removed)

Thank you for leaving a ridiculous template on my user page, welcoming me to Wikipedia. You might be interested to note this page, which lists some of my early edits, from [2002. I had been editing several months before that, but unfortunately, many early edits were lost in 2002 due to technical reasons, and my first edits, from 2001, were made under an anonymous IP. I'm kinda familiar with Wikipedia policy, as I helped to formulate quite a bit of it, in the days long before template messages, when people actually spoke to one another, on wiki pages, rather than IRC, and wrote genuine message, rather than dropping templates on each other's pages. That was called "community," and in fact, we actually knew each other back then. As for Elonka, I stand by what I said. Danny 18:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies. I under no circumstance desire or intend to insult your intelligence. However, everyone here is human, and I would ask that you reconsider refactoring your comment on the RFA to focus on the editors contributions instead of the editor as it would be hard to prove the editor is in fact "shameless". Perhaps the contributions themselves are self promoting in nature, and perhaps the contributions are "shameless" but there is a difference. The target of such remarks should be the edits themselves. Again, please accept my apologies. Regards, Navou ^banter 18:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Smile!

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Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Wikisource

Oh I hope you didn't think you'd escaped my nagging ;) As a matter of fact, Author:Wilhelm II is this week's WS:Collaboration of the Week, and while I might let you cheat and not have to scan/OCR, I would still like to see the Kaiser's memoirs added to Wikisource if you have a chance ;) Sherurcij ^{(Speaker for the Dead)} 07:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Cranmer

I don't know what you did, but do here, too:Dunstan. Thanks! -- SECisek 18:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you so much! If I can ever be of any help to you, please ask! -- SECisek 18:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 2

Thank you for taking the time to participate at the discussion in my Request for Adminship. Unfortunately the nomination did not succeed, but please rest assured that I am still in full support of the Wikipedia project. I listened carefully to all concerns, and will do my best to incorporate all of the constructive advice that I received, into my future actions on Wikipedia. If you can think of any other ways that I can further improve, please let me know. Best wishes, Elonka 03:40, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Awarded Bluegrass Barnstar

		The Bluegrass Barnstar
		I hereby award you the Bluegrass Barnstar, Wikiproject Kentucky's premiere award, for your meticulous work on the details of Kentucky and other Kentucky related articles. Thanks for your contributions!. -- Steven Williamson (HiB2Bornot2B) - talk ▓▒░ Go Big Blue! ░▒▓ 04:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Non-free images for Austin Nichols

I would like to ask you to comment on Talk:Austin Nichols#Non-free images, because when I removed the images earlier my edit was reverted. – Ilse@ 21:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Elonka articles dispute

Hi Danny, this is getting out of control. See User talk:Matt57#Formal notification to cease harassment and the discussion which preceded it on User talk:Elonka/Work1 (since deleted). Matt57 has already been blocked, I've been threatened with a block after an IRC discussion, and I don't know how to solve this other than by allowing the non-compliant COI material, which seems to be Elonka's third rail in this situation, to remain. Your input would be deeply appreciated.Proabivouac 02:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Hello, why do you keep removing the disambiguation link at the top of the Egypt page. As per the guideline, the link needs to be there. Regards, -- Jeff3000 17:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Pinski-Tailor.jpg

Could you look in on Image:Pinski-Tailor.jpg? I suspect some "copyright paranoia" is going on, and I'd really like to see this kept. To be honest, I don't see how to proceed: since this was tagged for possible deletion by a bot, I don't really know who I should be discussing with or whether I should just restore the tag marking it as a work of the Federal Government or what. I'm hoping you can help. - Jmabel | Talk 18:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan article

Hi. We could use your input on a problem we're having with an editor, who's constantly inserting an item into the lead when we've all decided by consensus that it doesn't belong. Please see the Reagan talk page for my suggestion, and please comment appropriately. Thanks. Info999 01:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Night of the Long Knives

Hi. In July 2007 this article was put through a "Good Article" review, then a "Peer Review", and finally a "FAC Review." It was promoted to featured article status with the block quote as it was and with the two images you removed. Both images and their respective fair use rationales were extensively vetted during the three reviews. I realize that you are acting in good faith and trying to improve Wikipedia articles, but you removed the images unilaterally, without encouraging discussion about the images on the article's talk page, and consequently without any consensus. As to the block quote by Hitler, I checked the WP:MOS and it appears to favor a block quotation being surrounded by a border. I think for the sake of uniformity in Wikipedia articles (especially featured articles) should adhere to Manual of Style. The format of that block quote has been changed several times. Why should it change every few weeks? I think that the style should remain as it was during the Featured Article review. I also think that the large quotation marks look cartoonish for such a sobering quotation. I appreciate your efforts to improve the article. But to sum up, I think:

• The block quote should revert to its previous format, per Manual of Style, and because the change does nothing to improve the article; and
• The images should return, or at least there should be discussion on whether the fair use rationales are appropriate.

You've done a lot to improve Wikipedia, and I appreciate your efforts to improve this article.--Mcattell 15:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Resource Exchange

Hi, can you please take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange, I need your opinion on a big merge concerning your project. Key to the city 12:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

So, the project I mean by 'your project' is Wikipedia:Library. I thought this was your project because you had the first edit of that page, and a lot of edits following after that first one. Maybe I'm wrong. On the discussion page of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange, I started a discussion about the merging of Library with 3 other projects with a similar goal. Anyways, you can ignore all this if you weren't one of the founders of the Library project. Key to the city 19:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopedia Britannice

Hi regarding this edit[17] I'm curious why? When you link to a EB article from Wikipedia, the full article is freely available. If you go to the URL directly, it won't work. You have to click on the URL from within a Wikipedia article for it to work. EB allows this on purpose. -- 71.191.36.194 14:54, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Armenian legend

Hi Danny, thanks for participating at Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance, we really need the help of some other editors who actually know the history of the area.  :) BTW, on that "Armenian legend", I think you're referring to the page from RHC Doc. Arm I, p. 660?[18] If so, I think we've already got a transcript (just saving you some work). It says, "The king of Armenia, back from his raid against the Sultan, went to Jerusalem. He found that all the enemies had been put to flight or exterminated by the Tatars, who had arrived before him. As he entered into Jerusalem, he gathered the Christians, who had been hiding in caverns out of fright. During the 15 days he spent in Jerusalem, he held Christian ceremonies and solemn festivities in the Holy Sepulchre. He was greatly comforted by his visits to the places of the pilgrims. He was still in Jerusalem when he received a certificate from the Khan, bestowing him Jerusalem and the surrounding country. He then returned to join Ghazan in Damas, and spend the winter with him." It was accepted as a source by Dr. Sylvia Schein in her 1979 article "Gesta Dei per Mongolos," but rejected by Dr. Angus Donal Stewart in his book "The Armenian Kingdom and the Mamluks", where he called it "an absurd claim" from an unreliable source. I can get you more info and exact cites if you like, just let me know!  :) --Elonka 00:01, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I can get you exact cites. Start here:[19][20] Might be faster if we talked directly though... Are you on IMs? --Elonka 00:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

(Re: Demurger) Yes, I finally got my copy too. If you're in a hurry to look something up, you can also see most of the book via creative searching at the Amazon "search inside this book" feature, which I often find is a more efficient way to check for specific terms, than just looking at the book's index.[21] --Elonka 22:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Self centered

A "hazzah" to you for deleting that page so fast after I tagged it! ÇɧĭДfrĪĔпd12 21:37, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikignome Award

I hereby award this Wikipedia:wikignome award to Danny for help in chiselling away at the mighty lion, which is now featured. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

MfD about the Wikipedia:WikiProject_ROMacedonia

Hi, I noticed you voted for the project deletion. I'm sorry I noticed this thing a little bit late, please review my comments on the MfD page here and also here, I think we are going to make a big mistake if we delete a whole project because of the To do page dispute. I'm open for discussion. MatriX 22:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Origin of the Kingdom of Mysore

Thanks for your copy edits on this article. The article looks much better now. Do you have time to copy edit the Kingdom of Mysore which I plan to nominate for peer review in a week or two. I have two more sections to complete there, which I will in a week.thanksDineshkannambadi 23:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Beethoven-Mozart

Hello Danny, I think you're quite right in restoring the comment Mozart (may have) made about Beethoven -- it's famous and readers will want to know if it's legit.

I found, and substituted, what I think is the first printed version, i.e. in Otto Jahn's 1856 book (posted for free on Google). But I'm currently having trouble finding (a) where Jahn got it from; (b) why contemporary musicologists think so little of its credibility that they don't even cite it. It must have been debunked, but who debunked it, and when?

Also, since the whole business is pretty messy and takes up space, I made it into a separate article. Yours very truly, Opus33 21:45, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Cultural difference of the term "fag"

Why did you delete the "Cultural difference" section in the Cigarette article addressing the highly important and culturallly relevant issue that in Great Britain cigarettes and called fags? Canjth 02:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image at Omaha Beach

I've queried your removal of the fair use image from Omaha Beach in the talk page there. Can you let me know there what was wrong with it? Thanks. --FactotEm 13:22, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. Hope you don't object but I prefer this to be discussed on the article talk page. I've copied your reply, and challenged it, there. --FactotEm 13:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you remember that you're an admin in Commons?

It seems that it won't last long...
Yuval Y • Chat • 01:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Mandelstam

Dear Danny, Once you said: “One contributor, Dmitri Smirnov, is hard at work creating stunning translations of some of the major Russian poets, including Baratynsky, Mandelstam, and Pushkin. Here is just one example: More tender than tender.” However now, because by new Russian law all works by Mandelstam are copyrighted again until the year of his last rehabilitation (1987) + 70 years - that is until 2055. Because Osip Mandelstam had no children and or relatives left, everything is inherited now by the Union of Russian Writers and the Russian State which killed him in a concentration camp of GULAG in 1938. I do not understand why Wikimedia (+ Jimbo himself) support this unfair & barbarous action. For me it also means that I have to destroy about 300 pages of Russian and English parts of Wikisourse as the User:Alex Spade insists. The same problem is with the works by Daniil Kharms and many more Russian authors. What would be your advise??? What is the best solution? Thank you for your attention and assistance in advance. Yours, Dmitrismirnov 10:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Homeopathy lead

The homeopathy article is protected. Can you get rid of the extra white space in the lead? Wikidudeman ^(talk) 17:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Night of the Long Knives

Hello. The article Night of the Long Knives will be tomorrow's featured article, and due to its "hot-button" topic matter (Nazism), I think that it should be semi-protected for the next day or so. I and others put a lot of work into to making it comprehensive and neutral, and I see it's been anonymously vandalized in the last few day a couple times. Thanks.--Mcattell 18:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Veropedia

What a neat project, I wasn't even aware of it. Thanks for the kudos, free knowledge is a great cause and I would be visiting many of the landmarks even without Wikipedia. This project gives me a chance to share what I learn, and see, really, its pretty fulfilling. Happy trails, until, of course, we meet again. ;)IvoShandor 16:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Best of luck on veropedia. WAS 4.250 17:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Belton House

I see toy are beavering away in there. I have just uploaded this image Image:Tyreconnelfamilyat Belton.gif to replace the fair use image deleted. The caption remains the same except obviously it is not a book cover. You may want to add it before you uploead it elsewhere. Regards Giano 13:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I hope I haven't caused any problems by restoring the link to Francis Johnson (architect); this is the correct person. I think the page Francis Johnson (architect 2) only existed for a short while because of some confusion with Francis Johnston (architect). AFCR 13:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

yidish lebt

|jidiʃ lɛbt · ייִדיש לעבט

Dear Danny,

please add your new email address to your preferences and email me. I returned from my wikibreak and would like to continue the work we started together. Please see here the potentials we have.

Best regards · Greetings from Munich Gangleri · Th · T 18:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of New Era

New Era, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that New Era satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Era and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of New Era during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② ^talk 13:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Elsie J. Oxenham

Many thanks for uploading this article to Veropedia - it's good to be appreciated... Abbeybufo (talk • contribs) 21:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Davvero

Hi, Danny. Email on its way to Mr Wool. Rothorpe 13:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your mail, which I have printed out and shall be examining closely.

I've had a look at Belarus (or Bella Roose - I always feel it should be regularised to first-syllable stress) & it looks to me you've done a very good job there. Rothorpe 23:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For creating more than 200 articles.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 21:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

lol

Veropedia's been blocked at school, but I'm fairly certain that's because it came up as a false positive. I've submitted it for review. MessedRocker (talk) (write this article) 15:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

lol

Veropedia's been blocked at school, but I'm fairly certain that's because it came up as a false positive. I've submitted it for review. MessedRocker (talk) (write this article) 15:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Hah, now it's being listed as a "forum/blog". Probably yet another false positive, so I once again submitted it for review. Funny how that's blocked and Wikipedia isn't. MessedRocker (talk) (write this article) 15:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Still "forum/blog"! Loooo... maybe I'll bring it up with the administeration. MessedRocker (talk) (write this article) 16:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2007/Candidate statements

With your experiance and leadership on Wikimedia Foundation, I think you would make a great canadate for the arbitration committee elections.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 02:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Glad to see you changed your mind! Best of luck!--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 23:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Franco-Mongol alliance

Thank you very much for your previous comments at Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance#Request for comment. We are still having a bit of a stalemate at the article though, so if you have time, I was wondering if you could offer another opinion? I have created a subpage in my userspace where I have rewritten the article from top to bottom, shrinking it down from 167K to a little less than 70K, removing some of the unreliable sources and less relevant information, splitting other sections out to more appropriate articles, and most importantly, trying to smooth out the writing so as not to give undue weight to certain POVs. My rewritten version of the article is currently at User:Elonka/Franco-Mongol alliance. I've announced it at Talk:Franco-Mongol alliance#Article rewrite, but because this is such an obscure subject, it's really been very difficult to prove that there is consensus for the new version. If you have a few minutes, could you please look over the rewrite, and offer an opinion on it? I am very open to making changes, but I'm in a situation where I basically have one editor (PHG) who keeps saying "no," and no one else seems to want to comment and help break the stalemate. We've been trying mediation for the last month, but without success, and even our mediator appears to have gone AWOL, with no posts for over a week now. I would very much like to find a way to move forward through this dispute without having to further escalate it towards ArbCom, and it's my genuine hope that if we could just get some more editors actually commenting there to prove a consensus, it could help a great deal. Any assistance appreciated, Elonka 17:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!

I appreciate the assistance on Turks and Caicos Rock Iguana, thanks a million!--Mike Searson 00:01, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to help with vereopedia, too, let me know how that works! Check out the following articles: Green Iguana and Blue Iguana. I pretty much rewrote both of them...Green Iguana just made it to GA...Blue will head there next...Fred Burton (the man who helped save the species) is doing a final once over on it before I reccomend it for GA review. I also created every Cyclura article with a Latin name, I'll be fleshing a few of those out this week. Just had Dr Hayes (expert on 3 of the Bahamian subspecies) donate some pics for all the Cyclura rileyi ssp.--Mike Searson 00:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Writing contest

Hi,

I just saw WP:DC for the first time. Will you be doing another such contest any time soon? Is it annual? Regards, Perspicacite 06:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Mike Girty

Hello Danny. We chatted before, about Veropedia (something I am still trying to figure out how to have time for) and thus, I know you read Mike Girty. I was just wondering, out of my own personal curiosity, if you had heard of this man before or if the article was your first exposure to him, just curious. Hopefully, that article will get better but I am hard pressed to find a source that doesn't refer to him as a scoundrel. :) IvoShandor 19:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

John Eardley Wilmot

Hi, Danny. Thanks for letting me know. Xn4 14:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

more mushrooms

May as well pick up its chum while you're at it. I have Amanita ocreata at FAC as well as DYK waitlist, and was musing on whether this was the first article to be simultaneously in both places.....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Goar and Gal

Thank you,Danny. I'm very flattered, and I will consider keeping an eye out for your project in the future. Alekjds ^talk 13:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Subpage

Wow, and not even a description of why you deleted? Please check this page's MFD. Thanks. GlassCobra 17:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Jon Burge

The way you wacked Jon Burge is unacceptable. On the talk page you can cite claims that violate WP:NPOV or WP:BLP. Just hacking an article is not proper.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 18:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Lets meet at Talk:Jon Burge and figure out what to do.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:05, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If neither of you has anything furhter to say, I am going to revert tomorrow.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 21:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:ADGordon.JPG

Image Copyright problem

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As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Wikipedia:Non-free content, use a tag such as {{non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 01:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. 128.118.226.88 (talk) 01:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom questions

Hi. I'm Ral315, editor of the Wikipedia Signpost. We're interviewing all ArbCom candidates for an article next week, and your response is requested.

1. What positions do you hold (adminship, arbitration, mediation, etc.)?

2. Why are you running for the Arbitration Committee?

3. Have you been involved in any arbitration cases? In what capacity?

4. In the past year, are there any cases that you think the Arbitration Committee handled exceptionally well? Any you think they handled poorly?

5. Why do you think users should vote for you?

Please respond on my talk page. We'll probably go to press late Monday or early Tuesday (UTC), but late responses will be added as they're submitted. Thanks, Ral315 » 04:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I saw that, but I sent out a template to everyone, as you might have guessed :) Ral315 » 05:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Core competition

This is a brilliant idea. I personally think this should be done more regularly - I am certian we would see a great deal of improvement this way and is gives users an incentive to address what really needs doing and some kind of reward other than barnstars for doing it. The Amazon River and Clint Eastwood are possible ones that interest me. I think of this as kind of like an investment in the project. Have you any articles which you know are shocking? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 22:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

As yet I haven't started on those articles but I'll definately see what SPECTRE can conjure up!! Some of the articles I've found most shockingly sparse on wikipedia or been most disappointed with is articles on regions and districts within countries. Some english villge with a population of 8 people can have a full article and an article on the local church yet entire regions of countries often which cover several million sq. kilometres are barely a few lines long. I strongly agree that people need to focus far more on quality but that isn't to say that there isn't a huge amount missing from the project too. Wikipedia can shock you at lack of development in places and it can also amaze you at how much detail is put into certain subjects which seme trivial. One such example is we have an articles on all the List of Pokemon characters and the Power Rangers yet serious articles like Wildlife of Brazil and Deforestation in Brazil are missing. I remember saying a while back the proportion of GAs 3000 out of 2.1 million really is appalling. FAs are difficult to obtain but there should definately be more of a focus to turn the core articles into at least a GA and many of the others too ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 23:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes there are tens of such articles I can think of off hand that you;d be amazed are missing. Many of them are overview articles which are seriously needed and highly encyclopedic such as Mining in South Africa, Ecological management in Honduras and by country etc,, (would cover environmental policy in the national parks etc -my cousin worked there for years), Environmentalism in Mexico etc, -basically real world issues which are affecting the planet today . I see somebody has realised how major the missing articles above were -that deforestation in Brazil is one of the biggest problems facing the planet today removing an enormous sink to absorb Co2 emissions. This should quite rightly not only have one article but be split into several articles on this topic alone such as Logging in .... Province etc to be more specific and detailed in exmaining such a topic. Most of the world haven't a clue about Deforestation in Cambodia either -another article I stubbed but I am gradually aiming to write a feature on. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

If you would permit me to add some of the articles which I think are core to the list- such as Mining in South Africa (this is a massive industry that affects the world economy) etc this would be a very good ide. I remember starting Mining in Wales (once the worlds biggest coal exporter a while back. The missing articles which provide very important overviews of major issues around the world are not always that obvious but there are hundreds even thousands missing guaranteed and yes it is extremely concerning why these sort of articles don't exist yet when we have tens of articles on the characters of Shortland Street! I strongly agree with you I think its time to reconsider what is important in the world and to an encyclopedia of this magnitude. Hopefully this scheme could be funded on a regular basis and core articles which are either poorly developed or missing entirely can be addressed will give editors an incentive to realise what is important and help at putting it right rather than being impressed by the article count soaring. Is there some wikiproject or something that aims to address this? I think it should be made central to the wikipedia community ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The nearest thing I can think of is the WikiProject GA group. I certainly think it would be a top idea to set up an organized formal project aiming to address the core issues we are concerned with on a permanent basis. When I'm feeling a bit better I think I'll propose something to WP Council and try to get a project set up aiming to highlight the most deficient areas of core articles and aim to set it right in an oreganized way, Hopefully you and many others would support such a move. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 17:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Yep no article on Communism in North Korea either. Even in the government and politics of North Korea articles it isn't really covered well. I think I'll aim at drawing up the Deforestation in Brazil article up from scratch. This is one of the most important world issues today so why not start here huh? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 19:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I added Loire River -the longest river in france 117,000 km2 and over 1000km long and barely anything solid on it at all. I won't add mnay more as the list is large enough as it is. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 16:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, kudos for the contest I must say. I was wondering the same as it's a huge list and I have no idea on the state of most of them - so having some clue as to other awful ones'd be good as as someone who has never owned nor read too much of the bible I don't think I'll be any good with psalms. Only problem is I am screwed for free time for the next two weeks...Must say I disagree on yer view on pop culture which is the mythology, psalms and folklore of our time and one of the best parts of WP - too bad so much is badly put together and unreferenced.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Aaah well, I figure with >2m articles we can be pretty detailed, but then again...bsck to the list - schizophrenia (a current FA) is on it which a few of us pretty comprehensively cleaned up recently and are watching to address stuff which crops up. Shall I remove it? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, an' kudos to the parser too..done most of it but one niggly sentence where someone has stuck a clarify tag which i am not too sure needs to be there but I'll dwell upon it. I hate monitoring psych articles....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Niiice (in best Borat voice)...though it will be a while before any other psych article is any good, though Psychiatry is improving slowl and steadily and I may help them take it to FAC soon...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:45, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Veropedia <> Good articles?

I'm having my first look at Veropedia, and I looked at Arch dam, featured on its home page, and compared it to Wikipedia's article. They are, of course, the same. So, thought I, if I look at the article's Talk page on Wikipedia, I will find that this article is a Good Article. Not so. Shouldn't it be? After all, if the selection process that results in inclusion in Veropedia is not marked somehow on Wikipedia, then the dismal Good Article count shown on your user page will improve much more slowly than need be, no?

Looking further, Jang In-hwan is rated Start Class on Wikipedia. Is this strange, or am I missing something? -- Mwanner | Talk 21:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I'm not really thinking of links from Wikipedia to Veropedia. But it seems a shame to let the fact Veropedia has accepted an article go unacknowledged on its Wikipedia Talk page. Would a Talk page template be out of place, do you think, or a Category:Veropedia? -- Mwanner | Talk 23:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Donating money

I'd be willing to donate $100. I thought you could use this to set up a first place prize of $200 (that sounds better than $120 for each person). What do you think? Remember (talk) 01:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Vero?

Maybe Göttingen Seven, maybe Christmas tree cultivation (yeah that's mine). Illinois Freedom Bell is the most comprehensive thing on the web about the topic. The Manzanar article is pretty good here, so is Ronald Reagan, and I did two of the related articles: Ronald Reagan Birthplace and H.C. Pitney Variety Store, both part of the Main Street Historic District (Tampico, Illinois). I have a whole series I wrote on Registered Historic Places in Orangeville, Illinois, the article itself I mostly developed as well (all the NRHPs are linked in the village article). Speaking of which, National Register of Historic Places, Historic district (United States) and Contributing property are all decent as well. Many of these I worked on solely and others I grabbed and made not suck, kinda like the internet and Wikipedia. To keep with the blatant self promotion theme of this post, I would also point you toward John H. Addams, John H. Addams Homestead and Jane Addams Burial Site. Just some thoughts on the mission to bring free, verified knowledge to the masses. Sorry I haven't had much time to jump in, to be honest, I am kind of gunshy at the moment, my wiki experiences haven't been the greatest lately. Anyway, hope those few suggestions help, I will come back with more. I also hope this wasn't an inappropriate place to talk about this, I figure 'tis fine considering both projects benefit. IvoShandor (talk) 01:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I don't think you guys have my only FA, Rock Springs massacre. I think I might be the world's leading expert on the topic now. ;) IvoShandor (talk) 02:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. IvoShandor (talk) 02:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know, I have been over these articles many times but that doesn't mean a missed typo or some such thing didn't slip through. Troubles I do have when working with something too much, although several have had the benefit of outside editors looking at them too. IvoShandor (talk) 02:18, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Which links are they? I am certain I can find replacements, I have tons of sources on that one that I didn't use. IvoShandor (talk) 02:44, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Veropedia question

Hi Danny. In the past few days I've seen a number of references to Veropedia on Wikipedia. Can you help me understand how these references—which include userboxes, Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Entries, and a Veropedia user who carries a link to an an essay about Veropedia in his or her signature that was recently proposed for deletion—do not constitute using Wikipedia for advertising purposes? The Wikipedia article on Veropedia states that Veropedia is "for profit".

WP:NOT states "Please note Wikipedia does not endorse any organizations and does not set up affiliate programs. See also Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) for guidelines on corporate notability. Furthermore, those interested in promoting causes or events, or issuing public service announcements, even if noncommercial, should use a forum other than Wikipedia to do so."

Thanks for your time. –Outriggr § 03:42, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Spend 20 seconds learning how veropedia works, and you'll understand why it's acceptable. ⇒SWATJester ^{Son of the Defender} 05:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note on the Contest

One last question for you regarding the contest: is it acceptable to add an article or articles to the candidate list? I've a few in mind... Mr Which^??? 16:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Core articles

I noticed that your list includes Drug addiction (609 pages link here) and Alcoholism. Another article of similar importance and consideration for the list is domestic violence. It's linked to 986 times in Wikipedia. That is a critical article, but of poor quality. It used to be much worse than that [22] before I spent some time on it in June/July. I had put it on hold, as it's a very difficult topic to work on. Someday, I'd like to make it a featured article. Not sure how quick that can happen. But now is a good time to continue work on the article. --Aude (talk) 17:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)