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June 18

Instablity

In the newer triadic harmonic system, however, the tritone became permissible, as it could form part of a consonant, yet unstable, dominant seventh chord.

— http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony#Historical_rules

What excatly makes somthing unstable?68.148.164.166 (talk) 06:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

This will of course depend on the "something", although in general terms anything which is unpredictable or has a strong tendency to change will become unstable. D0762 (talk) 10:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe what's meant here is that, the major seventh being only a semi-tone below the octave, the whole chord feels as though it's about to come apart. See also Minor major seventh chord: "...this same effect makes the tonic seventh highly unstable. The raised seventh in conjunction with the tonic creates the dissonant interval of a minor second. The raised seventh creates a pull towards tonic, however since it is present in the tonic minor chord this pull creates dissonance." Sounds painful, doesn't it? And yet that same chord is used in Pink Floyd's hauntingly beautiful Us and Them! Makes you think.Scolaire (talk) 18:43, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Wedge insertion

Stein put the wood used in his instruments through a very severe weathering process, and this included the generation of cracks in the wood, into which he would then insert wedges.

— http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortepiano#Stein

Why did he do this?68.148.164.166 (talk) 07:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

From the article: "This gave his instruments a considerable longevity". D0762 (talk) 10:25, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Tv Series "Becker" What is the theme music called.

I have spent hours trying to find out what the theme music to the tv series Becker is called. It is the series about a grumpy doctor called John Becker. My son's and I love watching the reruns. I would like to get the music as a ringtone. So I would also need to know if I can and where to get it from. Many thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koolcarolle (talk • contribs) 15:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Aparently there is no offical theme song, however the music in the show was primarily composed by Bruce Miller and Chips Swanson. [1] You can listen to the music here and here. You might be able to convert those to a ringtone at media-convert.com D0762 (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Sitcom gags and live audiences

Hi. When in a sitcom taped in front of a live studio audience, there's a sudden cutaway to a new scene, to reveal a punchline or simply a visual gag, how do they do that? How do they actually reveal to the live audience the cutaway scene so they get suddenly surprised and laugh? Do they actually pull the stage curtain to suddenly reveal the new scene, or do they simply show an audience a previously filmed tape that shows the scene and then the cutaway like you would see it on TV so they can react to it, then record their reaction laugh, and edit it into the show later? I'm pretty sure it's not laugh tracks when this happens... Thanks in advance, Kreachure (talk) 19:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, if the cut away scene involves an exterior location or something like that, then they film those scenes previous to the live audience taping. And then they'll do just as you had guessed with showing the audience the cut away scene on television monitors. Dismas|^(talk) 19:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Live audiences are coached before taping starts. Then, during taping, there are coaches in front of the audience that indicate what sort of noise they should be making - big laugh, little laugh, surprise, oh no she di'n't... -- kainaw™ 00:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

City Life (video game)

Has anyone commented on the apparent racist undertones of this game? I just bought it (it is quite good) and my friend and I found it somewhat amusing. The most upper class are called the elites, and are signified by a white indicator. They enjoy opera and so on. The lowest class, called the Have Nots, enjoy basketball and strip clubs, and are indicated by a black indicator! In the manual it actually says "Elites (white)" and "Have Nots (black)".

I'm suprised this didn't cause a stir in todays politically correct world! SGGH ^speak! 21:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure many people have comment on the racist undertones of the game. But I bet there are still obssesed with wizards and anything that crushes religion at the moment. ;) Here is what I found on gamespot I'm not sure if its what you want, but it might help: [2] Cardinal Raven (talk) 23:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Given that there are six classes of people, who presumably have indicators that are neither black nor white in colour, it may be a little excessive to cry 'racism'. DJ Clayworth (talk) 16:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Kristen Johnston Information

I don't really have a question I just wanted to let you know that in her filmography you left out "Jerry McGuire". She played Renee Zellweger's older sister. You need to edit her info and add that. She deserves to have that credited to her biography if you're going to have her on this site......Thank You..........67.142.130.37 (talk) 23:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)Robin Brumley

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Dismas|^(talk) 23:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Please note that if you make this edit, it will be reverted. You are apparently confusing Kristen Johnston with Bonnie Hunt, who played Renne Zellweger's outspoken older sister in Jerry Maguire. -- kainaw™ 00:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I assumed too much good faith. Dismas|^(talk) 00:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Not at all, Dismas. There's no such thing as too much good faith. Your advice was fine. The edit that would have been made had your advice been followed just happened to be an example of the honest mistakes you were talking about. But the principle was sound. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

June 19

Old Russian cartoon

I am looking for an old russian/soviet cartoon. It is a musical, and features a pony. (I know just how vague that is, but that is what I know about it ...) Cold Light (talk) 20:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

It might be called Volshebny Loshad ... I cant find anything about it ! Cold Light (talk) 20:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Song

Sorry, I know this question may be a little vague. I'm looking for a rap/hip-hop song, perhaps made by a brazilian or spanish rapper. It conists mainly of a string of incomprehensible lines (more so than other rap), but while it has the look of a parody I don't think it is. Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.4.238 (talk) 01:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

If you don't know if it's Brasilian or Spanish, you obviously don't speak either language. So wouldn't it all sound like gibberish to you any way?? You're not giving the Ref Desk much to go with. Can you describe the music video? More info is gonna be needed to figure out who you are refering to. --Endless Dan 16:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

If it has 'the look' of a parody, where did you see it? This could help narrow down the search.  slυмgυм [ ←→ ] 18:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Trust me, you can't make out any words or syllables. It's sorta hard to explain, but if you saw it you would understand immediately. I saw it on youtube if that helps. PS It's portugese, not brazilian, and I know some spanish. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.4.238 (talk) 01:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Film Budget

Can someone tell me what the budget of Hamlet (2000 film) (Ethan Hawke) was, and where they found out? Harland1 (^t/_c) 06:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Estimated at $2,000,000, found here. Leeboyge (talk) 07:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

haha thanks, is that a lot for a film? Sorry for my ignorance. 86.157.134.22 (talk) 07:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Terminator 2 had a $102,000,000 budget, while Clerks was made for $27,000. I think $2,000,000 would be considered a modest budget. D0762 (talk) 09:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Harland1 (^t/_c) 09:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

music fandom in East Asia

I keep hearing about how various midlevel musicians from the US are considerably more popular in East Asia than in the US. But aren't the big stars from the US also popular in East Asia? And I know there are a lot of East Asian stars popular in East Asia as well. How does this work? Is the average East Asian a fan of more artists than the average American? Or is the East Asian market more fragmented and diverse, allowing for more niches? Or is the whole thing about midlevel bands being huge in Japan and Korea just a myth or stereotype? --Allen (talk) 11:06, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

This is an educated guess on my part, but I know that on the Japanese billboards, a single can hit #1 with less than 50,000 copies sold, so I think it's just more fragmented. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 16:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Who's the youngest gymnast who win gold medal in the Olympic Games?

men and women. Breckinridge (talk) 16:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Women:Nadia Comăneci#Montreal Olympics Oda Mari (talk) 17:39, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Men: Rowland Wolfe. [3] Mike H. Fierce! 19:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Tennis balls

What does the number just below the brand name mean? Like Penn, and then a 4 or something at the bottom... 21655 ^{ταλκ/01ҁ} 18:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Nothing; it's just so players can tell their balls apart from their neighbors' balls when they start rolling across courts. The balls in each new can have matching numbers. --Allen (talk) 19:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Golf balls have these arbitrary numbers too, right? I remember it coming up in the movie Goldfinger. Are there other sports where it's also done? And the most important question... is there a Wikipedia article about it? --Anonymous, 21:14 UTC, June 19, 2008.

Unfortunately, neither the golf ball nor the tennis ball articles mention the numbers. But yes, I agree with Allen, they're to tell the balls apart. Dismas|^(talk) 23:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes the numbers help people distinguish their balls from another can of the same brand on an adjacent court. I have added this information to the tennis ball article if thats ok. Jessica - N10248 (talk) 18:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Movie scripts translated

Somebody knows where can find scripts of movies translated in Spanish? David Pro (talk) 21:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Which movie are you looking for in particular? JessicaN10248 18:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

For action and horror movies. David Pro (talk) 19:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... I can't find anything other than original Spanish language films. You could try using the Spanish subtitles from a DVD, maybe transcribe you own version. Otherwise you'll have to pay someone to translate it, and that would be very expensive. JessicaN10248 19:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Tekken VHS mix-up

I recently opened a promotional copy of Tekken: The Motion Picture that I'd acquired in a yard sale still in its shrink wrap. The cover clearly stated "dubbed in English," but it was actually dubbed in French, and said so on the tape itself. Has anyone else had this happen? Will it affect the resale value in English-speaking parts of Canada? NeonMerlin 22:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The name game

According to the article The Name Game, about the Shirley Ellis song, some names, if subjected to the song's playful treatment, will produce a profanity as a result of changing the initial consonant. I can understand how this works with most of the examples given, such as Bart, Chuck, and Mitch, but the one I couldn't figure out was Helen. Where is the profanity in "Helen, Helen, bo belen, banana fana fo felen, fi fi mo melen, Helen"? - Aletheia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.139.75 (talk) 22:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

If I'm completely abreast of the situation, it's in the "mo' melon Helen" part. (When trying to find nasty interpretations of names in this song, one's cups truly runneth over.) StuRat (talk) 23:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Helen was added in this diff, by an anonymous editor who has no other contributions. I do believe I'll go remove it now. --LarryMac | Talk 20:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

For what it's worth, an editor has posted an explanation on The Name Game talk page, saying that Helen was added because it will result in "felon" which has "negative connotations". --LarryMac | Talk 20:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice pair of groaners, Stu! Thanks. -Aletheia

Thanks. I always appreciate a nice pair. StuRat (talk) 23:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

June 20

Animal actors

Clearly, real animals are often used in TV shows, films, live plays, etc. And, sometimes, they are listed in the end-credits. I was wondering. Are these animals considered "actors" just as human beings are? I assume that they get paid for their, umm, "work". But, like human beings, are they entitled to have their names appear as an end-credit in the TV show or film? Or is that simply a nicety that the producer allows? Are these animals in any way entitled to "benefits" or do they work under any set of rules, much like SAG dictates how human actors are treated in the industry? I was curious if anyone knows anything about this sort of thing? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk)

They are called "animal actors" in the industry and the agency or individual who provides the animal is paid for the animal's use. (Usually, the animal will be hired with a trainer who will also be paid.) Credits are a different matter. Human cast and crew are credited based on general agreements between their respective unions and the production company involved in the film. (For instance, the Writer's Guild has rules about which writers must be credited, where the writing credit falls in the credits, etc.) Contractors, on the other hand, are credited based on the contents of the contract. Animal agencies are considered contractors. So it depends on what the contract says; in some cases, the animal itself is credited in the cast list and the trainer in the crew list, while in other cases the trainer and agency are credited but the animal isn't credited at all. And of course in older films animals were rarely credited at all. --NellieBly (talk) 03:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that was very helpful and informative. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC))

Cantonese Opera

Is 大戲, or Cantonese opera, in A flat Major?68.148.164.166 (talk) 05:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Listening to the audio sample in that article, I don't think it's reasonable to say it's in a major key. It sounds like it's in some Chinese scale really, probably pentatonic. Hopefully a Chinese music expert will be along. 79.66.20.219 (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

movie credits question

This has puzzled me for years....why is it that at the beginning of a movie or television program, as the names of the actors appear on the screen, the last name to appear also lists the character name that the person is portraying? For example it will list (these are just made up names) something like John Doe, Suzy Q, and then finally it will say "Luo Smith as Papa Jones." I have always wondered why this is common practice...is it because they are trying to give the person a little extra for their name appearing last? Does it have something to do with age, etc? thanks! 10draftsdeep (talk) 18:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Sometimes a big actor or star is invited to perform a supporting role. They do not have a major part in the movie, so after the credits for the other supporting actors are shown the "star" is credited with the role they are performing to show they are not among the bunch of supporting or minor roles, but have a special role. JessicaN10248 19:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

That's a great question! You might be interested to read this Wikipedia article: Billing (film), as it specifically mentions what your question refers to. The article states, in part: An actor may receive "last billing", which usually designates a smaller role played by a famous name. They are usually credited after the rest of the lead cast, prefixed with "and" (or also "with" if there is more than one, as Samuel L. Jackson was in the latter two Star Wars prequels). In some cases, the name is followed by "as" and then the name of the character. This is not the case if that character is unseen for most of the movie (see Ernst Stavro Blofeld). (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 20:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC))

Singing "R" in Italian Opera

I've been listening to Puccini's Tosca a ton lately and I just got the thought---what do opera singers do if they can't roll their "R"'s? I know I can't (that's why I took French!) and I know a ton of people who can't either. So what do they do when they come across the rolled "R" in Italian opera? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.219.143.150 (talk) 20:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

They're coached by professional voice coaches, so there are possibly some tricks of the trade. But if all else fails, the voice is the first priority, and if that's good enough to compensate for poor diction, poor acting ability, or other imperfections, that will usually get them a gig. Our own dear Dame Joan Sutherland was renowned for her audiences not being able to understand a word she sang, even when she was singing in English. I exaggerate, of course, but she did have a problem. It never stopped her career, though. The Italians dubbed her "La Stupenda", so they didn't seem to mind. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Ricky Martin song

I'm trying to find the name of a song by Ricky Martin that has the following lines:

No puedo más

Yo ya estoy harto de jugar a amar

donde estarás

no se si el amor que busco existirá

David Pro (talk) 22:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

It's "Donde Estarás" from the album A Medio Vivir. David Pro (talk) 22:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

June 21

90's mystery show

I've been looking everywhere, but I can't seem to find this tv series/miniseries/movie (not sure which). It's about a boy and girl (I think) that go around collecting special scrolls from skeletons to find a treasure or something by reading the messages in the scrolls.... Ring a bell for anyone?

Cheers,

Kermuffle —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.129.104 (talk) 03:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Sounds a bit like Skeleton Warriors. JessicaN10248 14:53, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

How high is a good jump in soccer? In basketball?

Thanks. Imagine Reason (talk) 12:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Dress in Spain

Moved to Humanities upon OP's request Dismas|^(talk) 03:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

June 22

Will baseball ever try anything different?

Football has tried many sub leagues and failed every time. Baseball hasn't tried. With MLB approval, let's have a once a year game where we shoot all the players up with PCP (with legal and medical waivers). Or how about letting a random ticketholder play? Have a playoff game with no crowd, to see if it makes a difference. Have the beard game where everyone wears a beard, no exceptions. Bb guns for outfielders (for very limited circumstances, only!). I have other ideas but I've probably bored you eneough.Baseball and and and Popcorn Fanatic (talk) 01:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Do these suggestions correlate at all with your opening comment about football "sub leagues"? Subs might have footballs, but that post-dates the league. Anyway, baseball has a long history of the sort of promos you suggest. Disco Demolition Night is a particularly infamous one. — Lomn 04:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

• Well, baseball has tried something different and it is still controversial after all these years. Also, a minor league team did try having a game with no crowd. [4] As to the beard game, in 1972, the Oakland A's got their entire roster to wear mustaches (some for the full season, but all at least temporarily). They became known as the Mustache Gang. [5] --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:34, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

One problem with taking on too many of the ideas you suggest is that baseball is probably the most steeped in tradition of all American sports, and a great many fans prefer that. Baseball attendance is at its highest ever, television ratings and revenue are setting records, all while keeping the game virtually as it was 150 years ago. To change baseball radically in order to attract a few more fans would seriously risk alienating a substantial percentage of current fans, to the extent that attendance would actually drop. Minor tweaks every decade or two (the DH, wild cards, interleague play) already cause major riffs among fans. — Michael J 00:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Van Halen song

There is a Van Halen song that starts off acoustically, then David Lee Roth says something like "let's go boys" and it becomes a full rock song. It was on a "deep cuts" weekend on one of the radio stations here, so it's apparently on the second side of its album, or at least not a single. I don't remember any other lyrics. So before I start searching for every DLR-era non-single Van Halen song, I was wondering if anyone here had any idea what I'm talking about? Adam Bishop (talk) 06:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

[6]? Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes! Thanks! Adam Bishop (talk) 19:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

The name of the song is "Ice Cream Man" It's an old blues song that Van Halen did. It's on their first album.Bluesmanjay (talk) 14:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Dylan in the Movies

In the Belle & Sebastian song "Like Dylan in the Movies," from their masterful 1996 album If You're Feeling Sinister, Stuart Murdoch sings, "If they follow you, don't look back, like Dylan in the movies..." Does anyone know which Dylan and which movies he intends to reference here?

Thank you!

MelancholyDanish (talk) 08:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)MelancholyDanish

• Dont Look Back was the name of a documentary film about Bob Dylan. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MelancholyDanish (talk • contribs) 22:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Rock song from riff

I'm trying to find this rock song, and all I can remember is the following riff (say it starts in D because I don't know what key it's in):

dcAG F CD   *   dcAG F CD   *   edBA G DE   *   edBA G DE

where capitals are in a lower octave, spaces are rests, and asterisks represent something like a cymbal crash. Does this ring a bell for anyone? All suggestions appreciated. —Keenan Pepper 20:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Central Dark

I've noticed there are some intruiging propositions offered by the latest installment of Alone in the Dark regarding some of the mysteries of the park, but the article on Central Park is devoid of any references. Is there a factual or mythological basis to any of the claims it makes? It'd be very interesting to hear about some oddities of it's history, even if there are rational explanation for them. 167.1.163.100 (talk) 23:45, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Considering many of us have probably not played the game, we may not be able to help you as far as the "claims it makes". The Alone in the Dark article doesn't state any claims. Could you maybe go over a few for us? That might get you more than silence in response to your question. Dismas|^(talk) 12:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

June 23

Groups with no line-up changes

Which currently active group has been together the longest time with no line-up changes since it was first formed? Cowboy Junkies formed in 1985 and have had no line-up changes since then. Can any group beat that? --Richardrj ^{talk email} 07:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

How do you define "currently active". There are many groups from the 50's and 60's that are still on tour. Is that active? Are you arbitrarily requiring an album release in the last XX years? What about a recording contract like the one that Guns 'n' Roses has had for the last, what is it, 15 years without a release? -- kainaw™ 12:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Guns N'Roses don't come into it since they have had numerous line-up changes in their lifetime. I'd be surprised if there are many groups from the 50s and 60s still playing with the same line-up as when they started, but if you can name any, I'm all ears. As for defining "currently active", album releases and record deals might help, but it would be on a case-by-case basis. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 12:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

ZZ Top. 1969-present. Same line-up, still recording and touring. U2 would be second place as far as I can tell. Kreachure (talk) 14:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool, looks like we have a winner. Thanks Kreachure. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 15:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem! I don't think there's another band out there that outlasts ZZ either. Kreachure (talk) 16:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I asked about criteria because this came up before. The studio musicians commonly change all the time. So, the "band" is simply whatever the band considers itself to be. As such, the Everly Brothers have been a duo since 1956 and have not replaced either one of the brothers. They have retired and un-retired many times - as recent as a 2004 concert tour. So, this creates a special class of "band" that easily continues for many years without a lineup change. What makes it more complicated is solo artists. Does the lineup for Aretha Franklin change? -- kainaw™ 18:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, the spirit of the question makes it fairly obvious to me that something like the Everly Brothers is not what is being sought, no matter how well they fit the definition of a currently active group. Aretha Franklin is not a group, as you're aware, and even if she had used the same backing musicians for her entire career, she wouldn't be what the question was looking for either. --Richardrj ^{talk email} 19:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Billy Joel song about a couple getting married young, struggling through life, growing old, something like that...

I can't remember the lyrics, but the melody is stuck in my head, from verse to chorus to the bridge which is a melodic "who-oh, whoa-oh, whoa-ooohh oh oh oh ooohhh". I realize the song I've described is Jack and Diane but I swear it's a different song and it is definitely sung by Billy Joel. It's just I can't find it anywhere. I've searched every lyric database I could find on the man, now it's up to you Wikipedia answer patrons. Please help me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beekone (talk • contribs) 14:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Scenes from an Italian Restaurant, it's about Brenda and Eddie. --LarryMac | Talk 14:35, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

And, ummm, we're not Yahoo. hrmph! --LarryMac | Talk 14:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

StuRat sends LarryMac a bottle of white, a bottle of red, perhaps a bottle of rose instead, for his excellent answer.

sorry, Larry. Wow, I totally read those lyrics too, I thought it was too obvious to be the right song... also I didn't read far enough. Sweet lord, I can finally get this amorphic blob of a song out of my head. Beekone (talk) 14:41, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Mercy sakes. I was once talked into writing a filk song based on "Scenes from an Italian Restaurant" dealing with a storyline from Due South of all things. It is one of the worst possible songs to use as a base for trying to write a parody song (along with Paul Simon's "You can call me Al", which I also filked). Anyone who's masochistic enough to be interested in such things can probably still find it on my website somewhere...(rummages online)... here, in fact (/selfpromo mode :) Grutness...wha? 00:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

adding name to Tony Awards recipients page

The female actor, Frances De La Tour, won a Tony Award in 2006. However, she is not listed on the Wikipedia page of Tony Award winners which are presented alphabetically. I cannot edit the page, and wouldn't want to mess it up, anyway. Can someone help? Thank you, Karen Johnson/ log-in username is kjpr/ email is (deleted)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kjpr (talk • contribs) 18:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

She is listed in 60th Tony Awards. I can't find the specific alphabetical list you mention, do you know the page title? --LarryMac | Talk 19:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

The "list" might be the Category: Category:Tony Award winners. Look under T for "Tour" instead of D for "De". Does that solve the problem? --tcsetattr (talk / contribs) 19:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Trying to identify a song . . . all I remember is one line and a few notes

There was a song I loved when I was much younger that I'm trying to find now, but I remember almost nothing about it. It would have been on soft-rock/adult contemporary radio stations circa the early 90's. I think the singer was a man or a deep-voiced woman, but the voice isn't that distinct in my memory. The one line I remember at all is repeated regularly throughout the song, at the end of a verse or chorus, and it's something like "Imagine all the people that make the world go round," or "Think of all the people that make the world go round." I know the last five words are "make the world go round." After those five words is a distinctive nine-note piano sequence. I don't know the names of the notes, but without resorting to my own mental imagery I can only say the first five notes present a brief rising and falling sequence with the third note held slightly longer than the others, and the last four notes are short and quick and all the same except for the second to last. So, to approximate, "Duh-dum-DAH-dum-dah, dah-dah-dum-dah." Sorry I've given you so little to work with, but I'd really like to find this song (I'm on a huge nostalgia kick right now) and I have no idea where else to go. - ARFDJ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.139.75 (talk) 23:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

common practice period song

There's a documentary that interviewed the player of a common practice period song. He never played it before, but he learned it, and Robert di Niro starred in it when we was a lot younger, when he didn't have gray hair, wrinkles, among other things. The director wanted this player to practice this song until perfect and then at the time of shooting, to surprise Robert di Niro, and thus, his character. Before, the player never knew how to play piano. In the sense, Robert di Niro is with another guy, who was equally surprised and taken aback by the player’s ability as he too did not know the player had been practicing the song.

What is this song?

(The clues I gave may not be EXCATLY right, but I think most of them are, or close to the fact.)68.148.164.166 (talk) 22:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Not really enough clues to really begin this one. best idea might just be to go through the discography on the Robert de Niro article (de, not di), and click onto the individual films. Those film articles might discuss the music of the films. Any other clues as to the music? Was it a slow piece, a fast piece, and are you sure it was common practice period music, or just something that sounded like it was intended to be? A first guess, if it's a slow piece that sounds vaguely like CPP, it might be Cavatina, the theme from The Deer Hunter. Grutness...wha? 00:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I know for certain it was a composer who composed this song during that period, maybe Haydn, Chopin, Mozart, etc. etc.68.148.164.166 (talk) 01:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Mmmmm. Once Upon a Time in America used part of Gioachino Rossini's The Thieving Magpie... hardly what I'd call a standard piano piece, but could that have been it? (BTW, there's no need to reply on my user talk page - here is fine! :) Grutness...wha? 01:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)