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1 year

It's been 1 year since i have edited wikipedia, i've always been very antisocial even in the internet so i couldn't really ask questions, but this year i will probably ask questions here, have a great day and thanks for reading this : ) --FromFrank✎Talk♬

@FromFrank: Welcome to the Teahouse. Feel free to ask any questions about editing here. Have a good day. Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 07:49, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

@FromFrank:I understand where you are coming from. Usually, I like to do things on my own as well and could be productive doing so. But I am glad you plan to engage with others because I found that it can also make your work easier, particularly benefiting from the knowledge and experience of other users (many here are eager to help). Also, since you have been with the community for a year, you can also share your thoughts and help others. Regards Darwin Naz (talk) 23:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Darwin Naz: Haha, thanks but i am still a beginner i just do gnome edits and the more shy type of editing but i am learning some new things along the way, maybe in 10 years i can understand half of what's going on here in wikipedia :p --FromFrank✎Talk♬ 04:49, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@FromFrank: If you are trying to be more active on Wikipedia and would like to become a more experienced editor, feel free to take the The Wikipedia Adventure, which is a fun basic tutorial on the groundwork of editing. Eclipsefc (talk) 02:32, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@Eclipsefc: Sorry but i only use my phone to edit on here so i can't really play it, its kinda more of a hobby for me and not as serious as wasting all my free time on editing here but who knows maybe in the future, maybe in the future. --FromFrank✎Talk♬ 05:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Template for directing IP's to Write the Article First?

I've got an IP that's trying to add links to a page that doesn't exist yet to several articles. For future reference, is there a template or handy guide besides linking to WP:WTAF, and maybe suggesting they don't skip too many steps on WP:YFA to give them that might let them know their editing is causing disruption? Thanks! Elfabet (talk) 18:24, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@Elfabet: It is OK to add red links to an article that may exist in the future WP:REDLINK. Can you explain more the problem you are trying to solve? RudolfRed (talk) 18:40, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Hmmmm, might have been over eager in my suggestions then. Policy trumps Essay, I'd imagine. And they were being changed in article body. Alright, I've removed my warning. Thanks for enlightening me.

PS: Is there a way to see the deletion history of a particular page that may have been submused or renamed to a disambiguation page instead? In this case it's Ladies First. Elfabet (talk) 19:54, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

@Elfabet: Click on "history", in this case you already see at the bottom that Ladies first was moved to Ladies First (Ms Scandalous album) leaving a redirect, and this redirect was then converted to a disambiguation page. Generally you can also click on "history", and then at the top of the history on "view logs for this page", that covers protections and moves.
I don't know what happens at the source for a page moved without leaving a redirect, i.e., if you're looking at a red link. IIRC for an ordinary red link you can just click on it to get a deletion info (or not.) You can also go to Special:Log and specify the page or user you're interested in. –84.46.53.127 (talk) 21:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Coordinate_footnotes

Which reference is used to add coordinate_footnotes and elevation_footnotes for Indian villages and towns ?--Vin09 (talk) 06:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Vin09: I believe the idea is to add a reference for where you found the coordinate and elevation data, similar to references you would use to cite information in the prose part of the article. So, if it is listed on a website somewhere or a book, then you would cite that. Does that clarify? --Jayron32 13:37, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Jayron32:Should it be a reliable source? Is Fallingrain.com be used, as I saw in many village pages?--Vin09 (talk) 02:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

How to have a popup image?

I uploaded a picture to Wikimedia Commons because it will help me to demonstrate a point in a text that I have posted in one of the articles.

I do not wish the image to appear as a thumb on the page. However, I would like that if I hover over a specific word in the text, the image will come up, much like compass.Yaronhad (talk) 15:20, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Yaronhad, is the feature you're referring to Page previews? Eman235/talk 19:16, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Eman235, the effect that I would like to achieve is the same as Page previews, but the image that I uploaded to Wikimedia Commons is in a file form. Is there a way to bring it up just by pointing at my text?Yaronhad (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Yaronhad: AFAIK page previews display the first image of a wikilinked article, and that's it. What word would you link? (If it can be wikilinked, I fail to see why you would want to show anything else than what the page preview gives anyway). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:36, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tigraan, What if the image that you wish to preview is not on a page but a file in Wikimedia Commons? From my search, this option is not available but it would be nice to have. Anyway, I linked it to the text as a workaround.Yaronhad (talk) 17:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Update: I added a link to the image.Yaronhad (talk) 16:19, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't know how to appropriately fix a dead link.

Hello. I don't know how to appropriately fix a dead link, for a citation. The link in question is the 3rd in the References list of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RimWorld. I have managed to find a bunch of snap-shots on Internet Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20180401000000*/https://ludeon.com/blog/studio/), but I don't know where to go on from there. Sincerely, AWearerOfScarves (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

The reference uses {{Cite web}}, which has parameters for this: |archive-url=, |archive-date=, and |dead-url=. You can see how I've used these here. rchard2scout (talk) 19:46, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much! AWearerOfScarves (talk) 12:53, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

problem

how do i delete the list of local accounts i have made by Accident please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patient support (talk • contribs) 19:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

This was crossposted to the help desk, see Wikipedia:Help desk#How to delete. Eman235/talk 20:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

What actually is the notable source meant to be?

I've tried really hard to understand what is meant by a notable source but just don't get it. Does it have to be a footnote, a link to a website or do I have to write something like "Sourced from [insert website here]" Also, does it have to be a source from a big company like a newspaper or can it just be anything not by me? Please help as I'm very confused and Thank you so much in advance :)

‘’’Edit:’’’ Thank you for explaining so clearly and politely! And yes I was confusing notability and reliability so that’s cleared it up. Again, Thnakyou!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by APerson2019 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, APerson2019. I think you are confusing two things. A source does not have to be notable - it has to be reliable (see the link for more information). Reliable sources are how you establish that a topic is notable. If I've not answered your question, please come back and ask further. --ColinFine (talk) 19:45, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

[Edit Conflict] You are conflating two different, though linked, concepts whose names have meanings specific to Wikipedia in addition to their more common meanings, so you have every excuse for being confused :).

The first concept is Wikipedia:Notability, which on Wikipedia means "sufficient material about this subject has been published in Reliable sources [see below] independent of the subject to allow an article based entirely on that material to be written about him/her/it" (Please read the linked policy, which gives much more detail.)

The second concept is Wikipedia:Reliable Source, which means (briefly) a source that has been published (so anyone can in theory refer to it, however difficult that might be), does not contain user or reader-generated material (which may be unreliable due to genuine misconceptions or deliberate falsehoods – so Wikipedia itself is not a Reliable source), and has been checked and edited by people competent to do so – the linked policy document goes into far more details. Note that even if published in a Reliable source, like the New York Times, material based on interviews with subjects, or publicity material released by or for them, is not independent of them and is not therefore considered Reliable.

These are linked because the notability of any subject has to be demonstrated by citations to extended material (not just passing mentions or listings) in several different Reliable sources. That last link will explain to you how we create footnoted citations in an article.

Note that sources which only briefly mention an article's subject, and sources not independent of him/her/it, can sometimes be used to confirm trivial facts like full name, date of Company's founding, etc., but cannot support notability.

Note also that sources do not have to be linkable online, though if they are it's easier for readers to check them. Even if only one copy of a published book still exists, say in the British Library, and someone would have to take a plane trip from another continent to consult it, that counts as published and the relevant citation template can be used to give all the necessary details of Publisher, Date, Author, Title, page number etc.

Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 19:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I've used other MediaWikis but not Wikipedia, and I need help

Hello! I'm a member of the Scratch Wiki, another MediaWiki-based wiki page. I got used to it and I know it inside out. My questions:

• How does Wikipedia compare to other MediaWikis such as Scratch Wiki?
• How do I upload pictures?
• Do you typically compress images on Wikipedia?

Any other helpful tips are nice, too. Thanks
Dominic035 (talk) 21:42, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Dominic035. Wikipedia should be pretty similar with regards to software, though of course due to the different skin some things will be in different places. Some pages detailing Wikipedia rules are Wikipedia:Notability (what can be included), Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Reliable sources (how and what to cite, respectively), and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (how to write prose on Wikipedia; check out Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style if that's tl;dr).

For uploading pictures, see Wikipedia:Uploading images. Basically, free (as in freedom) images should be uploaded to Commons (only compress these losslessly, if at all), but nonfree images (which should only be used according to this policy; definitely shrink them) should be uploaded locally to Wikipedia. Eman235/talk 22:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the advice.
Dominic035 (talk) 22:27, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Talk page

On every article I noticed there's a "Talk page", what's the purpose of this? 97.90.47.253 (talk) 22:32, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

To discuss improvements to the article. See Help:Talk pages and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines for details. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:33, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Lost movie needs to be included in the list of lost movies (1970)

The film Willy & Scratch (1974) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0227819/?ref_=tt_rec_tt is a "lost" movie and needs to be included in the 1970's section of lost films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lost_films#1970s . I have messaged the director of the movie Robert J. Emery and he confirmed that the movie is "lost" and has been since the 1970's. I also spoke with a son of one of the executive producers on the film and he also confirmed that the film is now "lost." In addition to Willy & Scratch being lost 2 other films by Robert J. Emery are also lost, The Bittersweet Night (1968) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0225187/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_26 and Dare the Devil aka David, David (1969) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0216660/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_25 . Would someone please update the lost films Wikipedia page to include these movies? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kadath9969 (talk • contribs) 00:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kadath9969: Fell free to add it yourself! Do your best to follow the existing formatting and it should stay. As a side note, please sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (~) <-- these things, as it lets us know who said it. Happy editing! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 01:46, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kadath9969: before you add it you will need to find a source other than IMDb. Per WP:RS/IMDB they are not reliable and they have had numerous films listed on their website that never existed. You can probably find other websites listing the films of Mr Emery that will work as references for Wikipedia. MarnetteD|Talk 03:58, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

How should I spell?

I've been editing on Wikipedia for a few days now, and I'm a little confused about one thing. If somebody has written the word "colour," should I actively go out of my way to change it to "color?" Or is the British way of spelling it okay? ChipotleHater (talk) 00:32, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@ChipotleHater: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Policy in this area can be found at WP:ENGVAR; but in short, the version of English used in an article depends on the subject matter. If you were editing Elizabeth II, you should use British spelling. If you were editing Donald Trump, you should use American spelling; Justin Trudeau, Canadian spelling, and so on. If the article is about a broad subject or involves multiple national versions of English, you can ask on the relevant article talk page. 331dot (talk) 00:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

ChipotleHater, there is also frequently a template displayed at the top of the page and only visible in edit mode telling you what English variant is used on that page. John from Idegon (talk) 01:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@ChipotleHater: I would add that an editor who goes "out of their way" to change article spellings from one valid form to another without justification is very likely to receive a formal request to stop doing so (warning) from other editors. There are so many articles with genuine spelling area in them that are far deserving of attention. If this area of work interests you, try loading WP:LUPIN's spellchecker for live-checking of new edits, though I'd observe that installing special scripts is not something all new user may be comfortable with. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:52, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Nick Moyes that you should definitely not go through articles changing one variety of spelling to another, but we do expect each article to be self-consistent in spelling. If you are in doubt about which variety of spelling is appropriate, then the usual compromise is to use the variety chosen by the earliest contributor to the article who used a regional spelling. Dbfirs 08:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Alright. Yesterday I was working through Wikipedia:Typo Team to fix spelling errors. I’ll look into installing that script. ChipotleHater (talk) 12:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@ChipotleHater: If you decide you like it, your welcome to use my slightly modified version. Mine runs for c.3 times longer before timing out, and also leaves a better edit summary. I used to use it at work, leaving it to run all morning, then I'd address all the reported errors in my lunch break, or after work. See User:Nick Moyes/recent2test.js for my version. Two things to say about using it: Beware false reports in hyperlinks - never change those! And be willing to deploy the {{notatypo}} template whenever you encounter seemingly-wrong spelling in quotations or non-English phrases. That stops you or others on the future from changing words that shouldn't be changed. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:41, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

How to save guard our uploads on Wikipedia Commons on the deletion process by someone ... Pls explain how to solve the problem and help me to get out of that problem ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by YugendarAMMK (talk • contribs) 01:32, 10 May 2019 8UTC) (UTC)‎

Hi YugendarAMMK. English Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons are sister projects and there is some overlap, but they each have their own separate policies and guidelines. This means if you've uploaded some files to Commons which have been tagged for deletion, then you're really going to need to discuss them on Commons. You can ask for help at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright or c:Commons:Help Desk if you want.

Looking at c:User talk:YugendarAMMK, a notification has been left by a Commons editor named Bukaroo bob 91 about a discussion at c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by YugendarAMMK which has to do with some files you uploaded. The main issue seems to be that it's not clear whether the files you uploaded are your own work. Please refer to c:Commons:Licensing for more specific details, but basically "own work" implies that you are person who originally created the work in question and are the person who holds copyright ownership over it. Anything you didn't create yourself (e.g. a photo taken by someone else found online, a political party's logo/flag found on their official website) cannot be uploaded to Commons without the explicit permission of the original copyright holder. Now, if you're really the copyright holder of these files, then you should clarify this in the Commons discussion about the files and then send an email to Wikimedia OTRS for verification purposes as explained in c:Commons:OTRS#Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS?. If there are no problems and your copyright ownership over the files can be verified by OTRS, the files will not be deleted. You can send a single email for all three files; just make sure you include the file name for each file so that the OTRS volunteer reviewing the email knows it's for more than one file. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:10, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Escape characters

I can't for the life of me figure out how to escape the "[" character that appears in the following URL, causing the reference link to break between "operator" and "0": http://collections.cinematheque.qc.ca/recherche/oeuvres/?operator[0]=+&q[0]=%22Chantal+duPont%22&field[0]=Realisation_r. The link in its broken form can be seen in the references for Chantal duPont. Thanks in advance for any advice.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 03:30, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey, TMIP, percent-encoding will generally do you right for escaping characters in URLs. https://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_urlencode.asp is the reference table I use; [ is %5B and ] is %5D, so replacing teh brackets with those percent combinations should work. I went ahead and did it for you here. Hope that helps! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 04:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Perfect! thanks so much for taking the time to answer.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 05:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Greetings

Can someone help me to create a progressive page to get started as a productive administer?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mittjohn11 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Mittjohn11. It's not clear from your post what you're asking. Do you want some help on how to create an article? Do you want some information on how to be come an administrator? You appear to have started a draft for an article at Draft:Forrest Animation and in User:Mittjohn11/sandbox. Is that what your question is about?

It will be easier for a Tea House host to help you, if you can be a little clearer on what you need help with. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

New article review

Hi If I publish a new article how much time will it take to get reviewed and get live? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rupeshbhojne (talk • contribs)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Rupeshbhojne. There is no straightforward answer to this question. It can take between half an hour and two months for an article submitted for review to be approved. The simpler the article (and the less promotional and the better references it contains) the more likely it is to be reviewed immediately. Clearly notable topics (species, geographic features) may be approved very quickly, but with a c.7,000 article backlog, and around 1,000 reviewed each week, there may still be quite a wait for some people. Nick Moyes (talk) 07:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Rupeshbhojne. Just want to add that it's not really a requirement that you submit a draft for reveiw to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, but it is something which is highly recommended, particulary for new editors who may not be very familiar with Wikipedia's various policies and guidelines. Although it's not impossible to do, most new editors typically find it quite hard to write a proper Wikipedia article from scratch; so, submitting a draft for review gives other more experienced editors a chance to look it over and provide suggestions on ways to further improve it. There's no limit placed on the number of times a draft can be submitted as long as it keeps being improved; in fact, many drafts end up being declined a couple of times before they are accepted.

Some editors, however, askew the review process and directly create articles themselves. Sometimes this works out OK, but many articles (particularly those created by new editors) end up being deleted each and every day for one reason or another. These articles may end up being deleted rather soon after they are created or quite some time after they are created, but they are all basically deleted because they are not up to Wikipedia standards and there's no way to "fix" them to bring them up to Wikipedia standards.

You've been an editor (at least using your current account) for only a few days, and many new editors get discouraged when an article they create is declined or deleted by the Wikipedia Community for some reason. So, perhaps it might be better for you to try and familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's various policies and guidelines by working on improving existing articles for a little while before trying immediately trying to create a new article. This will allow you to gain a little more experience and a better understanding Wikipedia which will help you when you decide to start writing a new article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:08, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Help??

Hi, I’m new to editing pages here at Wikipedia and I don’t understand some stuff for example as to creating pages and etc.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Radi Machete2 (talk • contribs)

@Radi Machete2: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may be interested in using the new user tutorial to learn more about using Wikipedia. Successfully creating new articles is probably the hardest task on Wikipedia; you may want to start smaller and edit existing articles and gradually work your way up to creating new articles, users who do that are much more successful than if they immediately started creating articles. 331dot (talk) 10:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Assignment issues, please help

I am currently a student studying a BA in Writing and Publishing, and for an assignment we have been tasked with creating Wikipedia articles 'from scratch'. However I have experienced an issue with another user.
I submitted an article for creation which was denied for promotional language (I have never worked on a company-based page, so appreciated the user feedback, even requesting more specific feedback to help correct my errors), however the reviewer has mistaken my efforts and thinks I am being paid for advertising, which I most definitely am not.
I even decided to focus on other articles so as not to cause any problems or upset/another other users with an article that is not strictly fact or backed up with reliable sources.
I am quite concerned as I worry this could all affect my assignment even though it is just a misunderstanding, and was wondering if anyone could help?

Thank you, GoldVine5 (talk) 10:48, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@GoldVine5: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. We cannot tell you what will affect the assignment you were given in terms of the assignment; in terms of Wikipedia, as long as you learn from your errors, you will have little issue as far as we are concerned. Does your instructor/professor work with the Education program? 331dot (talk) 11:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: Thank you for the speedy reply! I'm unsure if my tutor, user Cbderbylib, is a part of the educational program but I have emailed to ask, and has our course attached to the Outreach Dashboard. My major issue is that user Robert McClenon believes I am doing paid advertisement work for the House of Marley page I submitted, though I assure you I am not, and since his feedback I have focused my attention on articles that seem less controversial and prone to promotional language (my aim was never to cause issue or offense). However he is now suggesting a 'conflict of interest' and harrassing my other page(s), the Skin Books trilogy draft page made before the article was created. Is there anything you could help with/ suggest?

Thank you, GoldVine5 (talk) 11:45, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@GoldVine5: Robert did respond to your post on his user talk page; your instructor should not be requiring you to create an article by a set deadline. I see your instructor does have a page about the course. I would suggest that you ask your instructor to comment on the COIN discussion. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

creating a page

Hello. I'm trying to create a page for myself as I am an experienced and accredited screenwriter, script editor and producer. People in these roles don't tend to get interviewed in the mainstream press unless they are very famous, but I have referenced my IMDB page and my page on the BFI which list my credits (though the BFI page isn't comprehensive at all). These are both reliable sources, independent of me, but my page has been rejected? Many thanks for any advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filacious70 (talk • contribs)

@Filacious70: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft was rejected because it does little more than list your accomplishments like a resume. It is not written as an encyclopedia article. Please note that IMDB is not acceptable as a reliable source because it is user-editable. Unfortunately, if you are not written about in independent reliable sources, you would not merit a Wikipedia article at this time. If you just want to tell the world about your accomplishments and credits, you may want to indeed contribute to IMDB or other places where this is permitted. It is true that requiring independent reliable sources does leave out some subjects, but Wikipedia's mission is to summarize independent sources and not necessarily be a comprehensive list of all member of a subject(such as screenwriters).

Also please review the policy on autobiographies; while not forbidden, writing one is highly discouraged, as people naturally write favorably about themselves, and Wikipedia tries to have a neutral point of view. While it is technically possible for someone to write about themselves in the manner required by Wikipedia, it is rare; I've been here many years and yet to see it successfully done. 331dot (talk) 10:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for coming back to me - I understand re IMDB, but the BFI (British Film Institute) webpage is not editable and is an eminent, independent body, surely that would do as a reliable source? I was encourage to add my own page by other female screenwriters as there are so few women (let alone female screenwriters) listed on Wikipedia. I avoided writing a description precisely because I don't want to be biased and there seem to be lots of entries on Wiki that do just list credits etc? Many thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Filacious70 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@Filacious70: The BFI page simply lists the films where you are script editor or producer. To show notability you need in-depth coverage in multiple independent sources (please have a look at that page to get an idea of what is required). Creative professionals such as yourself may also be notable if they meet these specific guidelines - which again would need reliable independent sources. An encyclopedia article should not be just a listing of credits - there may be some such articles in Wikipedia now, but that does not mean that it is appropriate for new articles to be created in that format. Hope that makes sense. --bonadea contributions talk 14:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia page creation

Hi,

I am looking for Wikipedia page creation specifications and process to follow for the same.

Please provide guidelines to create and manage Wikipedia pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.156.100.130 (talk • contribs) 12.28, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

IP, please sign with four tildes after talk page comments and on discussion pages like this: ~~~~ (minus the nowiki tags). Some links that might be useful to you are our notability policy, our policy on sources, and finally a guide on making a new article. Do note that as an IP, you cannot directly create new articles. However, you are fully able to create a draft, and submit it for "article status" using Articles for Creation! Happy editing! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 13:07, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Missing birth/death date

Hi again, I've been trying to locate sources for deceased elected officials but I really couldn't find their birth and death dates. Even the government office/s they once worked for don't have records. Although I may have yet to pay a visit in the local public libraries and museums (fingers crossed), does MOS:BLPLEAD really require these information? Could we leave them like undetermined or the like? What are the options, if there are any? Again, thanks Verbosmithie (talk) 14:19, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Verbosmithie. Thank you for asking this question because I am sure that there are other editors who may need information on this same topic. First, it is extremely important that information about people be referenced. Also, it is frustrating not to be able to find that the information you want even after looking so hard for it. There are lots of biographical articles that have no information about the death of a person. If you are using an info box, there is a section asking for the date of the person-but you can just leave it blank. Perhaps another editor will be able to find the date. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 15:19, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

If the information isn't easily found in reliable sources, it probably shouldn't be included. However, sometimes you just need to know where to look. Many WikiProjects include lists of resources, so that's where I'd start. The Google News Archive, Google Books, Archive.org, and The Wikipedia Library are valuable resources. Between them, I've found most of what I needed online in digitized form. You should also check out national libraries. Some of them are restricted to their own citizens, but you can often get enough information out of them to make a search worthwhile. If you're serious about editing Wikipedia, you'll probably end up with a lot of random bookmarks like British Council, EDGAR, and National Library, Singapore. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:13, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Notability Question - Robert Horwich

Hello! I am wondering whether a draft article about Dr. Robert Horwich would pass the notability test. He is...

1) the inventor of the "puppet system" of hand-rearing crane chicks (which was a big breakthrough in helping crane species) https://www.savingcranes.org/honoring-rob-horwich-pioneer-in-costume-rearing/

2) the founder of a nonprofit conservation organization called Community Conservation http://communityconservation.org/who-we-are/

3) the co-founder of the Community Baboon sanctuary in Belize and is mentioned in that Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Baboon_Sanctuary

4) a published scientist/primatologist who specialized in both people-focused conservation initiatives and primates

He passed away in 2017 and my instinct is that he is definitely notable enough to have a Wikipedia page - especially because of #1 and #3.

I would appreciate any thoughts or advice about this - is Dr. Robert Horwich notable enough for a Wikipedia page? Thank you so much for your time!

Shelly Torkelson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiofishie (talk • contribs) 2019-05-10T17:15:23 (UTC)

Hello, Radiofishie, and welcome to the Teahouse. Horwich may well be notable, but I don't think what you've give so far establishes it. Notability in Wikipedia is something different from its normal interpretation - it doesn't mean famous, or influential, or important, though figures that those words describe are often notable. It means that there has been enough material published about them that is both independent of them and published in a reliable place, to ground an article. So the first reference you give above may be relevant - it is not clear to me how independent Saving Cranes are from him: if he was ever an officer, for example, I would be dubious. Again, Community Conservation are clearly not independent. The Wikipedia links, on the other hand, are simply not reliable: while it is strongly encouraged to wikilink other articles to help the reader explore, a Wiki article cannot be used as a reference, and therefore cannot contribute to notability. If Community Baboon Sanctuary itself had any reliable independent sources that mentioned Horwich as the founder, they could also be used in an article about Horwich; but only one of the references there even works for me, and that one does not mention him.

What you need to find is more places where people completely unconnected with Horwich or any of the organisations he is affiliated to have chosen to write at some length about him, and been published in a reliable place such as a book from a reputable publisher, or a major newspaper. Altenatively, as he was a scientist, there may be alternative criteria that are relevant here - they will still need reliable sources, though. --ColinFine (talk) 17:12, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Radiofishie I had a look around, and there might be enough independent material on him to write an article- its mostly about his work with monkeys and community conservation. You may have to dig a bit for it though. Curdle (talk) 18:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing a reference list

Greetings,

Our group technical editor has strongly encouraged me to expand the "et al."'s in the reference list on a page to which I've contributed. (I assembled the list and my boss pushed it up.) Is there a mechanism that will allow me to do this? Selecting the "edit" link on the reference section of the page doesn't access the existing references. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertgutter (talk • contribs)

Hey Robert! In the editing window, references are listed in the running text beside the citation itself. If you click the little number in the "references" section, it will bring you BACK to the section where the reference is made. Edit that section, find the reference, and then you can edit it there. I hope that helps! --Jayron32 16:54, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.70.186 (talk) 17:47, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Just a note here Robertgutter, If you are getting paid for editing Wikipedia, you have to declare this on your talk page. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 20:08, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Need help gathering sources, due to the fact that I would need money

I am trying to find sources for this draft, and I am struggling to do so due to lacking money needed to purchase potential sources. Any suggestions on what I can do? Invalid^OS (talk) 17:55, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hey InvalidOS. There are a number of resources available at Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library. Some of them free for everyone, and others you can request free access to, though I don't know how many would have information on contemporary video games. You might also try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games. They have a pretty active community there. GMG^talk 18:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

There's a project at Wikipedia called the Resource Exchange, where you can go and request people to provide you with help accessing difficult-to-access sources, including those behind pay walls. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. If anyone can help you, they can! --Jayron32 18:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I will be sure to try these. Invalid^OS (talk) 18:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Give Mercy to Bobby Deol

To the admin of 'Bobby Deol Page' on the Wikipedia:

Sorry Sir/Madam. But you are "I N D I R E C T L Y" insulting Bobby Deol on his official Wikipedia page by giving introduction about him which is superficial in its depth. Sorry.

He is a multi-talented star "I N D E E D".

He flopped in the Bollywood, "O N L Y & O N L Y" due to his lack of fitness.

So, that major reason behind his failure at the second half of his career must be known to everyone.

Please, give mercy to him & publish regarding this on his Wikipedia page (esp. in the end of his introduction).

Otherwise, many folks will think that he is a talentless actor.

In fact, in India, some shallow people mock at him, thinking that he is a very unskilled actor.

But, genuinely, he is the most "S K I L F U L" actor.

I am Bobby Deol's biggest fan (really).

So, please add this information on his Wikipedia page for the God's sake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inderpratap79 (talk • contribs) 18:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Bobby Deol - for convenience. I'll just comment that none of the editors there are "indirectly insulting" the person - they are required by WP:BLP to remove unsourced content from biographies of living people. As the final warning says on your talk page, you are liable to be blocked if you do not cite your additions to that article. theinstantmatrix (talk) 18:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing a pre-existing entry

I have just wasted about 2 hours editing the entry for the fossil amphibian, Pteroplax. Now, when I google "Pteroplax" I am referred to the original entry. All my work appears to have gone to waste. Why?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Jonathan Boyd (talk • contribs) 19:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Michael Jonathan Boyd. Please remember to WP:Sign your posts on pages like these. The reverting editor did not leave an edit summary. Would you be willing to clarify, @FireBlade708:? JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:45, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello and thanks for asking your question. You didn't sign your post here, are you Michael Jonathan Boyd? I just took a quick look at the article and at first glance, it looks like another editor reverted you. It is advisable to contact an editor (you) before such a mass deletion. I see that no one brought up the issue on the talk page of the article. I also see that the content you added had few, if any references added to support your edits. I didn't find any discussion about the deletion on your talk page or the talk page of the other editor. I did see the other editor is new and may have not known discussions like this need a better explanation. I also see that you are also a 'newbie' here. The other editor is 'allowed' to make the changes that they made. This is my explanation of what happened. Your edits are not really lost and can be restored but I will wait for your reply to this Teahouse message. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 20:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

I was tempted to edit a lamentable 'stubn' on Pteroplax, spent a couple of hours looking up references, and another writing the text. I cited 5 scholarly papers/theses as references to my edit (I did a Masters by research on Pteroplax). I am not *very* computer-literate and, if this is what happens to people who fall for the Wikipedia request to readers to improve entries, I shall not be doing it again. I wish someone ad told me what I had done wrong, instead of deleting the fruits of about 3 hours work! Btw, yes,l I am Michael Jonathan Boyd.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Jonathan Boyd (talk • contribs) 20:40, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear @Michael Jonathan Boyd: I understand your frustration; the other user (FireBlade708) reverted your clearly constructive and helpful edits without explanation. I’d say if they don’t explain why they reverted your edits in due course, please reinstate your edit. It is all saved in the page history, here. Regards, Zingarese talk · contribs 21:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Michael Jonathan Boyd, thank you for trying to improve Wikipedia. In the only instance I have been able to check, it seems that you were right and FireBlade708 was wrong, the naturalist's name was Atthey, not Atthby. My guess is that FireBlade708 reverted your edits because they did not cite any references, though they did list some. I suggest that you restore the constructive changes you made, but that you cite the references (see WP:REFB) after each statement that they support. I would do that for you, using the article's "View History" tab to access them – but I don't have access to the sources you listed. Maproom (talk) 21:34, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@Michael Jonathan Boyd: I have reverted the other editor, who had, regrettably, twice undone your work. I'm very sorry that happened - I know how upsetting that can be. Just like you, they are pretty new here themselves, and I suspect this was a genuine, but clumsy mistake on their part in their enthusiasm to revert vandalism by others. As you'll have seen, I have subsequently made some improvements in page structure and to the references you added to the the article. I have also left what I hope is a clear but polite explanation on the other editor's talk page, and I hope neither you nor they are put off from future editing. That really is very important to us here. I'll pop over to your talk page and have a chat about how I (or others) can guide you further, and also explain how to put a little note on your userpage to clarify what we call a Conflict of Interest in editing articles you've written about in the academic literature. It doesn't stop you from doing so, but it does ensures openness whilst editing. (And just as an aside, I know you've been asked to ensure you sign your talk page posts with four keyboard tildes -like this: ~~~~ - but please don't start a new discussion topic each time, assuming it's about the same thing, but simply add replies or follow ups to the bottom of first thread you start - just as you would in any discussion forum. We indent each reply by adding one more colon character to the start of that reply.) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing a pre-existing entry

I do not understand what happened to the extra information I, somewhat laboriously, added to the Wikipedia entry on "Pteroplax." I did not know I had to sign any entry. Has my work all been lost?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Jonathan Boyd (talk • contribs) 19:58, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Answered above. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 20:03, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Nintendo System Photographing

Is it allowed on Wikipedia for anyone to take a picture of a Nintendo system they own and use it as the photo on its wikiLBDCOM12 (talk) 19:58, 10 May 2019 (UTC) page?

@LBDCOM12: yes. SSSB (talk) 20:16, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@LBDCOM12:. I'm going to differ from what SSSB posted and say "maybe" because proper image use on Wikipedia is often quite complicated. There may be copyright issues involved when it comes to taking a photo of something created by someone else and physically owning the object (even if you purchased it) doesn't necessarily mean that you own the copyright on it. For example, purchasing a Nintendo game cartridge gives you ownership over the actual plastic cartridge itself, but not ownership over the intellectual or creative content of the game; for example, you don't own the in-game imagery or computer code which makes it a game, or the imagery that appears on the cartridge's packaging. There are actually some countries (the United States is one) where things such as as toys or product packaging are considered to be eligible for copyright protection.

Wikipedia's and Wikimedia Common's licensing requirements pretty much require that any image files uploaded for use in articles be 100% freely licensed without any restrictions (see Wikipedia:Copyrights#Guidelines for images and other media files and c:Commons:Licensing for more on this), but basically you cannot upload someone else's copyrighted content without their explicit consent to do so. Wikipedia does, unlike Wikimedia Commons, allow copyrighted content to be uploaded as non-free content, but there are lots of restrictions placed on how it can be used.

Now, even if there are no copyright issues which need to be dealt with, there still may be contextual or editorial issues which need to be resolved. So, whether the photo should then be added to a Wikipedia article is a different question which might be unrelated to its copyright status. For example, there may already be a sufficient number of photos used in the article and other editors might think that adding another one is not an improvement; moreover, if you remove an existing photo just to add your photo, then that might unintentionally lead to the deletion of the other image. So, like adding textual content, trying to add images to articles can lead to disagreements over content and you may need to establish a consensus to make such an addition per Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Editing a pre-existing entry

Hallo, Barbara! Thanks for your comments. I am completely new to Wikipedia, so do not know how to contact you other than here. Please excuse my ignorance. I edited rthe Pteroplax entry very thoroughly, citing 5 or 6 scholarly publications at the end to justify my edit. I did a Masters thesis on Pteroplax and wanted to improve the lamentable Wikipedia entry, which was just a stub. Btw, yes, I *am* Michael Jonathan Boyd. Feeling a bit out of my depth here, though!  :)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Jonathan Boyd (talk • contribs) 20:14, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello again, MJB. To contact Barabara, you can write something here, or you can use her talk page at User_talk:Barbara_(WVS). Whichever you do, it'll make things easier for us if you sign your postings (but not your contribtions to articles) by ending them with four tildes, preferebly preceded by a space, like this ~~~~. Maproom (talk) 21:41, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Is YouTube regarded as a reputable citation source?

I wanted to possibly use a YouTube video to prove a musician played with another particular musician at a specific venue. The YouTube video supports the information on musician's Wiki page that he did indeed play with this well-known guitarist, who hosts a particular jam night for guitarists. Or is YouTube not used for citations? Thanks, BahnJour9120 (talk)

Videos can be used as references, if they are in some way "official", i.e., no fan videos etc., but a video on, e.g., the YouTube channel for Full Frontal with Samantha Bee can be used as source for something she featured in her TBS show. –84.46.52.77 (talk) 22:39, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@BahnJour9120:, in addition to the above advice, you'll find a few more details with examples and various other aspects at Wikipedia:Video links (for example the self-published and primary nature of many YT videos, or possible copyright issues). YouTube is not prohibited, but should be handled with some caution on a case by case basis. GermanJoe (talk) 22:56, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Got it. I will look into the link you provided. Thanks GermanJoe. BahnJour9120 (talk)

@BahnJour9120:Can also read WP:YTREF for more info.--Vin09 (talk) 03:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Alan Moss obituary

I was surprised that the Alan Moss obit suggested that Middlesex team was weak at the time. As well as Alan, a superb reliable bowler, they had John Murray - sometime England keeper, batsman -Denis Compton, Bill Edrich and Denis Compton and top spinners Fred Titmus, Phil Edmonds etc. Cheers, Peter Byford— Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.203.73 (talk) 20:40, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP 82.5.203.73/Peter. I'm assuming that you're referring to the Wikipedia article Alan Moss when you posted "Alan Moss obit", and not something else. So, if you have any concerns over the content in the article then you can point them out to others by starting a discussion at Talk:Alan Moss or you can be WP:BOLD and try to address the issue by revising the content yourself. Be advised, though that article content is really only supposed to reflect what can be verified by checking reliable sources; article content is not really intended to be based upon our own personal opinions. So, if you can find reliable sources, which state that the team was actually quite strong, then feel free to rewrite the relevant sentence(s) to reflect those sources and then add citations in support. At the same time, if you feel that it cannot be verified through reliable sources that the team was weak, then perhaps try rewriting the relevant content in a neutral way which mentions the team but doesn't editorialize about how strong it was. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:08, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Why I'm not able to edit Student of the Year 2

It says only view source, I can't see an option to edit the article, Am I blocked from editing that article? --WikiLover97 (talk) 21:15, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear @WikiLover97: Your account should be able to edit it now. Try again. Let me know if it still says “view source”. Zingarese talk · contribs 21:17, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you for the quick answer, and yes it still says the same, I just wanted to add the Box office information to the article, as people might start looking for that in a couple of hours. --WikiLover97 (talk) 21:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@WikiLover97: Student of the Year 2 is semi-protected. That means you can edit it when your account is four days old and has ten edits. You have enough edits but the account was created today. You can submit an edit request after clicking "View source". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh Okay, Thank you @PrimeHunter: I got it! I'm submitting an edit request! this tea house is actually helpful <3 WikiLover97 (talk) 21:28, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Adding Citations

Hey there! I'm very new and I was wondering any helpful guidelines/tips for adding citations? I mostly just use a citation hunt page and then try to find one from there.

One question I had in particular was do song lyrics need a citation? And where would you even get one of those? The Miss Texas (Miss America System) page had a pop culture reference to Almost, by Bowling for Soup, and I didn't know if it needed a citation (but it had one of those handy citation needed boxes)

So the questions I really would love to have answered is do you have any helpful guidelines/tips/rules for adding citations? and what actually needs a citation?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.191.1.121 (talk) 21:46, 10 May 2019 (UTC)‎

I recently used what-song.com/Movies/Soundtrack/102615/Mission-Impossible-Fallout in a reference after checking that what-song.com is already used as source on other enwiki pages, and therefore hopefully a "reliable source". Really good sources often have an enwiki page, e.g., you can put a wikilink in a work=The Guardian source. No luck for what-song.com, I used website=what-song.com instead of some work=[[…]].
Just in case, enwiki pages about songs and albums typically do not quote lyrics, one of several reasons against this are copyright issues. But if you decide that you have good reasons to quote some lyrics anyway you need of course a source, or more precisely, a free source. –84.46.52.77 (talk) 22:58, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

"Anything that is likely to be challenged" should have a citation. Readers need to know where the information comes from to verify it. If you search WP:RSN the reliable sources noticeboard, you may find discussions relating to the reliability of websites you want to use, and sometimes the relevant Wikiproject page will have a list of sources they find useful.

A lot of what is in those pop culture sections is completely irrelevant trivia. It should all be cited, even if only to prove its not WP:OR, and that an independent, reliable source found it notable enough to even mention. So you don't just need a citation for the lyrics themselves, but a reference that explains their connection/use in that particular example.

For general information about use of lyrics on full or part- start with WP:NOTLYRICS for guidelines and relevance. There is also information at WP:LYRICS. Curdle (talk) 12:35, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources may be useful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:16, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Inclusion guidelines for items on organization templates

Hi - my turn to ask a question. Are there any guidelines that say every entry on the template has to have an article, like the guidelines for inclusion on DAB pages? I saw this one Template:Gimlet Media and before deleting the unlinked entries thought I'd check. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:55, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: The guideline is at WP:EXISTING – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:05, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

And one rationale not mentioned on WP:EXISTING is Special:WantedPages, navboxes with red links would inflate the numbers. –84.46.52.77 (talk) 23:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Finnusertop and 84.46.52.77 (can't figure out how to reply with a blue link for you) - I posed the question earlier on Category_talk:United_States_media_company_templates, not realizing it was more commonly called a navigation box. With your help, not only did I find another similar discussion on the WP:EXISTING talk page Wikipedia_talk:Navigation_template#Redlinks_in_templates, there was even more info on the Red link page Wikipedia:Red_link#Avoiding_creation_of_certain_types_of_red_links. There seems to be some gray area by about putting in all the members of the set, without red-linking, ie just leaving them unlinked, as I saw with Template:Gimlet Media. It seems like leaving the unlinked items won't create any unintended problems like on Special:WantedPages. I'm going to continue this discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Navigation_template#Redlinks_in_templates. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:03, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

TimTempleton links are red when the link target doesn't exist (but only for local links, external links or interwikilinks always render blue). Jannik Schwaß (talk) 14:05, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Jannik Schwaß I couldn’t figure out how to make the IP address blue like it is in the signature above. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:21, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Why is my edit not being saved

I’m trying to leave sources for my draft Draft:Angry Birds VR Isle of Pigs but the edit won’t save. Why is that. Sonicfan200530 (talk) 23:05, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

• OK I got one site but it wasn’t the one I was trying to use. Sonicfan200530 (talk) 23:07, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

  If it's no issue on your side there should be some red box explaining why you can't save a reference, e.g., some URLs are globally or locally (=on enwiki) black listed, because they were known to be abused for link spam or hopelessly unreliable. If you're using a mobile device it could be a bug on enwiki's side, but now I'm already guessing, maybe try to post an example here, without the http: or https: at the begin. –84.46.52.77 (talk) 23:21, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Silurian Geographical Timeline

Is "Silurian graphical timeline" messed up for anybody else, or is it just my computer? You can see it on these pages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireviken_event https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulde_event https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lau_event Lxxl2 (talk) 02:23, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Lxxl2: Someone vandalized Template:Silurian graphical timeline. I have reverted their change. If you still see the broken code, try purging the page. Eman235/talk 02:24, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Wiki introduction

Will I be able to receive some cash at a later stage while I keep in writing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaybee.wiki (talk • contribs) 04:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Kaybee.wiki, no, we're all volunteers here. Eman235/talk 05:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Kaybee.wiki You aren't going to get cash from Wikipedia, as noted, we are all volunteers, working here to help improve this project for the benefit of the world. We cannot stop you from asking outside parties to pay you to edit for them, but this is not looked upon well by other editors. You would also be required to comply with the paid editing policy and declare who is paying you. 331dot (talk) 08:53, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Creating an article about Paul Emile Coni

HI there, There is already an article about the printing of the first postal stamp in Argentina. My great-great grandfather was Paul Emile Coni, the person that printed it but he has no page about him yet. I found two of his kids in Wikipedia and some loose information about publications printed in his famous "Imprenta Coni"

How can I create a page for him or request somebody to do it if I provide the info?

Thanks!

I am very new to this and it is a bit complicated— Preceding unsigned comment added by AndreaLabat (talk • contribs)

@AndreaLabat: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure a separate article about your great-grandfather is warranted, but if you have the appropriate reliable sources, it is very possible this could be mentioned in the article Postage stamps and postal history of Argentina. I would suggest visiting the talk page of that article(Talk:Postage stamps and postal history of Argentina) and bringing this up there so interested editors who follow that article can help you decide how to work that into the article. If you really think a separate article is warranted, you can request that one be created at Requested Articles, although the backlog there is very large. Writing a new article is very difficult; if you want to attempt to do so, you can read Your First Article and then submit a draft using Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 09:00, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

About my recent contribution to wikipedia

Hello! Everyone. I recently joined wikipedia as a member, that is why I'm not very aware about the nitty-gritties of writing articles here. I have a question to ask that why my recent wikipedia article is not showing up in search engines' results. How much time will it take for my article to show-up on search engines?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhayoct13th (talk • contribs)

Hi Abhayoct13th and welcome to the Teahouse. I see that you have put a lot of work into your article Abhijeet Srivastava, but it will not appear in Google searches until it has been reviewed. Please be patient because this can take some time. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol for details of the process. Please sign talk page edits using four tildes ~~~~ Dbfirs 11:19, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

User page

How can we view and redirect ourselves to an unpublished page that is being edited by us after logging into our account?

Unfortunately, your user name MMMS2019 seems to be a shared account, so is not allowed under Wikipedia rules. Each account must be for one individual. See Wikipedia:Username policy for details. Your user page is at User:MMMS2019, and your talk page is at User talk:MMMS2019, but these will never be indexed by Google. I suggest you use social media to publicise your group. Each of you is welcome to create an individual account, and we welcome contributions "to the free world of knowledge". Dbfirs 12:36, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Copying charts and graphs on Wikipedia draft page

Dear Wikipedians, We are creating on the public budget of a country and we need to copy original charts and graphs from the government's official version of the budget. How can we do this as the draft page is not able to display charts and graphs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMMS2019 (talk • contribs)

About editing in External links of a biography page

Can an instagram account of a person be mentioned in the 'External links' section? Abhayoct13th (talk) 13:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)Abhayoct13th

Please go through WP:ELNO.--Vin09 (talk) 13:44, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Per WP:ELMINOFFICIAL perhaps, if there's nothing "better". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:10, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I see that Dhvani Bhanushali has Instagram as External Link

Can we add in external link section social media profiles?

Because I read that only officials are allowed (Websites/Blogs/IMDb/Bollywood Hungama) kinds.. WikiLover97 (talk) 13:43, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Who is "we"? Wikipedia Accounts must not ued by more than one person. Jannik Schwaß (talk) 13:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Jannik Schwaß, I think you could interpret that as "we editors of Wikipedia." --valereee (talk) 14:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

WikiLover97, I read WP:ELMINOFFICIAL to say that it can be ok to use a social media as the "official website" if there's nothing "better", but not a bunch of them. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Jannik Schwaß seriously I asked we (of course editors), Anyways thank you for the policy information I believe that is very important on Wikipedia to understand and act upon Policies. Can I get important policy links to read before I write my first article? --WikiLover97 (talk) 20:01, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

WikiLover97, I've posted several to your talk page! --valereee (talk) 00:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Contacting 'Dcirovic'.

Hello, I've never used this section of Wikipedia before. On 22/2/2016, I apparently made an edit for St. Patrick's College, Goulburn......I have only just noticed that 'Dcirovic' deleted my edit because he/she considered the article to be better before my edit. I have no idea now what this was about but would like to see the two versions side by side. Both my father and myself attended this College. Can you help with this enquiry ? The reason I began looking at Wikipedia tonight is that my computer screen opened with a photo of 'Eucalyptus Salubris', the text says it is a gum tree growing in the area of the Nullarbor Plain, Western Australia. The Latin meaning of Salubris is given, however the Latin meaning of the WORDS Nullarbor (nullus arbor) should also have been given. The very word Nullarbor means 'TREELESS', these trees would only be growing at either end or south of the Nullarbor Plain. I would appreciate it if this text could be edited in a suitable way by someone familiar with this system, and also please reply to my first enquiry above. Regards, wottaway Wottaway (talk) 14:15, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Wottaway, you can see them here. Near the top of the page, you can find a link to click 'previous edit' or 'next edit', and when you scroll down you'll see what the page looks like for each version. I will say that your edit broke the syntax, plus added two names into the notable alumni list who don't appear to have their own articles, which we generally consider means they are possibly not notable. --valereee (talk) 14:24, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Signature

Hii, can anyone help me make my signature? CptViraj (talk) 14:47, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

CptViraj, you appear to have done it -- you just need to end your posts with four tildes, like this: ~~~~ --valereee (talk) 14:50, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi CptViraj. You already have a signature "CptViraj", but maybe you'd want to customize it a bit. Please refer to Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature for information on various acceptable ways to customize a signature. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:51, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: @Valereee: Thanks! Regards - CptViraj (talk) 16:35, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

what is the submission code for the article?

I am trying to submit my article to the AFC but I have forgotten the code you include to submit the article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhaim (talk • contribs)

@Dhaim: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Since the last decline of the submission unequivocally states that the subject is not sufficiently notable for Wikipedia, I don't believe the code to resubmit is made available. Keep in mind that no amount of editing can make a subject notable. The only sources you have offered are routine announcements or press release type articles, which are not appropriate for establishing that this company meets the notability guidelines for companies written at WP:ORG. Please review them if you have not already. What is needed to establish notability are independent reliable sources that offer in depth coverage of the company, where the source has chosen on their own to write in depth about it. Press releases are not independent(even if printed in independent sources) as they just tell what the company wants to tell. Notices of awards also have little meaning, as any organization can give any 'award' they wish. Not every company merits an article here, even within the same field.

I see that this is the only subject you have edited about. If you work for this company, you must declare that per the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy. 331dot (talk) 15:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Versions of this draft declined four times in 2018 when submitted by User:Jemowkd and now rejected when submitted by User:Dhaim. Also, Jemowkd has the entire draft on User page. David notMD (talk) 21:37, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

India

I would like to add the largest metropolitan area (Delhi) in the infobox of India along with the largest city proper (Mumbai) with it. To get a better glimpse about what I am asking, the infobox of California has the largest city and the largest metro. I would like to do the same thing for countries. I have made this edit and another editor reverted my edits. I discussed the changes on the article's talk page, although the reverting editor is not involved with the discussion. Can you help me please? Interstellarity (talk) 15:21, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure what it is that you want help with- you are discussing the issue and other editors have joined in; we cannot force the reverting editor to comment, though they did give a reason in the edit summary for their reversion that may need to be addressed. You could try gently asking them directly on their user talk page to comment, but again, if they don't wish to, we can't make them. You should continue to discuss the matter until there is consensus as to what to do next. 331dot (talk) 15:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: I think you messed up my ping. I did not receive it, but anyway, thank you for the advice. Interstellarity (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I misspelled it. My apologies- I have fixed it for purposes of being correct. 331dot (talk) 15:41, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity, it seems the discussion is going well, but give it awhile. If you want, you can ping the editor who reverted you or leave a note at their talkpage that discussion is happening. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

[1] Perfect! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Disambiguating article name

I wrote an article about Shirley Gordon, a writer. There is already an article about Shirley Gordon, an athlete. 1. Did I disambiguate right? If not, can someone show/tell me how to fix it? 2. Should the athlete Shirley Gordon be distinguished now that there are two articles with that title? Thank you. --DiamondRemley39 (talk) 16:23, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi DiamondRemley39 - and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, you added the dab correctly. And yes, in my opinion, there is no primary target, and so the other article should also have a dab, and a disambiguation created pointing to both articles.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 18:20, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for setting up the disambiguation page, Onel5969. I did a search and saw that Shirley Gordon is now known as Shirley Gordon Olafsson. I added the name to her article. Should the article be renamed?--DiamondRemley39 (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi DiamondRemley39 - That depends on whether or not she is more widely known with the Olafsson (married name?) appendage. WP:COMMONNAME is the guideline which should be followed. If indeed she is more well known by Olafsson, than yes, the page should be moved. If indeed she is more commonly known with Olafsson, simply move the page. Regarding the below comment by the below ip, it's not exactly accurate. If there are only 2 alternatives, like in this case, where neither is clearly the primary topic, WP:2DABS is the defining guideline, which then leads to WP:NOPRIMARY, which says "If there are multiple topics (even just two) to which a given title might refer, but per the criteria at Is there a primary topic? there is no primary topic, then the base name should lead the reader to the disambiguation page for the term."

[Edit Conflict] Where there are articles on three or more people of the same name it's best to add a parenthesised description (as you have done to the writer) to each of them and set up a Disambiguation page to which searches on the bare name will point. When there are only two it's common to choose the more well-known one and add a Hatnote to that article with a wikilink to the other subject along the lines of "This is the article about the athlete, for the writer see X X (writer)" (where the text here italicised is the wikilink). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 18:30, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Yang 2020 presidential campaign

Hey, everybody, I am new to Wikipedia, I am a Ph.D. student that loves this website. I am here to contribute to the vast knowledge Wikipedia has to offer. I recently tried to edit the above article to include Kamala Harris in the section regarding Asian-Americans running. Considering she is Indian I think she should be included some way in the section talking about Asain-Americans running. What do you guys think? Snakebite21 (talk) 16:52, 11 May 2019 (UTC)SnakeBite21

Speaking as a Briton rather than an American, I have observed that while British people refer to those from the Indian sub-continent and its neighborhood as 'Asians', in the USA the term more often refers to those from Japan, China and their general regions (although 'officially' it also encompasses the sub-continent). Consequently, in the context of a USA-centred article, an Indian person might not be considered 'Asian.' The linked article goes into details about what the term means in various parts of the world.

Ultimately, you would do best to raise this question on the article's Talk page and see what consensus emerges. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 18:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Tags in the Headers

I wanted to ask about headers on the articles talk pages, for example these project tags were added to Judith Schwarz and Susan Hudson by the AfC reviewers (I think). I started a new page for draft:Linda Craddock 'Women in Red' artist project and wondered if its okay to add this project and/or other projects to the header of the talk page now rather later? Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 23:57, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi LorrieBrown. I don't think there's anything wrong so to speak with adding WikiProject banners to the talk pages of drafts. I think many WikiProject banner tempates have been set up so that the template recognizes that the "article" is actually still a draft and automatically specifies it is a such as well as adds the boilerplate text "This page does not require a rating on the project's quality scale." to the banner's description. So, you should be fine. Another option might be to add the WikiProject banner syntax to the page, and then hide it until the draft has been approved as an article. Once it has been approved, you or the person removing it can unhide the syntax so that the banners are now visible on the talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:04, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Many wikiproject banners actually allow the "class=draft" parameter, thus explicitly notifying the project that it is a draft within their purview. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:09, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Relation of Kumar Sanu with Nepali Music

Dear Wikipedians, I went through the article about Kumar Sanu: an indian singer Kumar Sanu . It nowhere mentions about his contributions in Nepali music. But he has sung many famous evergreen songs in Nepali Language. Please help in adding more about kumar sanu;s journey in Nepali music. Kumar Sanu Nepali Songs Kumar Sanus Nepali Song — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sashil Chalise (talk • contribs) 20:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Contributions before registering and how to add them to your current profile?

Hello, sorry if this is the wrong section, I am kinda overwhelmed with the site's features.

I want to add the contributions I've done (before registering) to my account. I know that Wikia records the IP left after a Contribution so I guess it wouldn't be impossible. Is it possible for my contributions from my IP and my profile to be synchronized? Is it a feature?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruck8 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Bruck8, I'm fairly certain this is not possible—but you can definitely say on your user page what IP you edited under, and link to that contributions page. Eman235/talk 21:23, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Eman235, That's my understanding as well. S Philbrick(Talk) 22:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Bruck8, you can create your user page by clicking here: User:Bruck8 and then at the top of the page, click Create. --valereee (talk) 15:54, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcoming new contributors

So what's the concensus on welcoming new contributors to Wikipedia, anyway? Do they deserve a personal touch, or do we just slap 'em with a template and call it a day? (Guilty as charged.) Also, I just realised that I was never welcomed to Wikipedia :'(. Granted, most of my edits are not in mainspace. Regards, Guywan (talk) 21:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Guywan. I don't think there's a consensus one way or another. There are many templates in Category:Welcome templates (a easy-to-understand list can be found at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates) for different types of welcomes, and these are fairly easy to use and often contain lots of links to other pages which a new editor might find helpful. Using templates can save time, but they might seem a little impersonal to some people who prefer to write their own "welcomes". There's also a page like Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome to Wikipedia which can be added as a link to a new editor's user talk pages. I think some members of Wikipedia:Welcoming committee might've even created a bot or two which will added welcome templates when the editor makes a certain type of edit, but not sure about that. I think the only (quasi-)consensus I've come across is related to not using welcoming templates with respect to new editors who seem to be intentionally trying to create problems and disrupt Wikipedia; many seem to go straight to user warnings in such cases. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:58, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I sometimes use {{subst:welcome|newuser=y}} (which omits "thank you for your contributions") for somewhat problematic users. Eman235/talk 22:05, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

@Guywan: Welcome. You have our wish - I have left you a belated welcome. I actually think a heartfelt welcome and a bit of support is better than a three second template, but these are all I can offer you right now. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:29, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Asbury Park, NJ 1930's History

My Father had a Beauty School in AP during the 1930's. He was a pretty famous Hairdresser, Barber, and Wig maker (Postasure). He later had a shop on Royal Palm Way in Palm Beach, Fla, where he did many millionaires hair including Meriwether Post. He also made hairpeices for the famous singer John McCormack and many other famous people. Learning his trade in a apprenticeship in Berlin during the 1890's, He migrated to the US and Canada in 1904 where he sold hairpieces in NW Canada from a Motorcycle. He passed away @ 98 1/2 in 1986 in Columbia, Md. During his latter years He made wigs for the VA. He was Straight Pool Champion of Pittsburg, PA for a number of years with a run of over 60 shots.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Micheel Jr (talk • contribs) 22:18, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Should I post this???? Paul Micheel JR— Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Micheel Jr (talk • contribs) 22:23, 11 May 2019 (UTC)‎

Hey, Paul Micheel Jr, welcome to the Teahouse. It sounds like your father had a pretty amazing life and business. If your father has been written about in detail and in depth by a number of reliable, independent sources (i.e. books, newspapers, magazines etc) then he might meet Wikipedia's Notability criteria. But there are millions and millions of amazing people in the world just like your father, but our test of whether or not they merit an entry in this encyclopedia rests purely and simply on whether the world at large has taken note of them. Only then would they merit a page here. Does that answer your question? Thanks for posting. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:38, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Mexico City Policy article is plagerized!!!

The article Mexico City Policy is plagiarized off this website:https://www.kff.org/global-health-policy/fact-sheet/mexico-city-policy-explainer/Goaliepowers (talk) 23:22, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps it is the other way around? The Wikipedia article got its start in 2003. The website you are pointing out was just published recently. David notMD (talk) 01:20, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Goaliepowers: Welcome to the Teahouse. You have already raised this exact same point on the article's talk page - which is the right place to do that, rather than here. I have answered you there, and actually questioned whether your assertion is correct. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Why my editing was deleted?

My editing in sita has been deleted. Scientific meaning of sita is ultraviolet rays. I known this meaning from a dictionary in Gaya divisional library— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumitgaya (talk • contribs) 02:29, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Sita is the consort of Lord Rama. There is nothing in that article that relates to ultraviolet rays. Your changes have been reverted twice. If you think you can make an argument for your proposed changes, the right place is the Talk page of the article. David notMD (talk) 02:43, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Someone is WikiBullying me

How do I officially report a "WikiBully"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danfloyd1 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

This pertains to Lincoln-Way East High School and and image the user has uploaded without valid license information https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Griffin.gif

I am not bullying you, it's not a "conspiracy to believe vandalism",[2] I am not admin, and I am not abusing you.[3] I am simply asking you to prove to Wikipedia that the img you uploaded is indeed something that we are allowed to use, and I am asking you to discuss on the article's talkpage whether the image you have uploaded is appropriate for the use you have put it to. It may be useful to show as part of the school's logo, but I would prefer to see an actual picture of the school's mascot rather than a heraldic style drawing if the editor is going to claim it is an image of the school's mascot. Meters (talk) 03:12, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Danfloyd1, you probably want to use OTRS to help verify that the author has indeed released the image under CC0. Eman235/talk 03:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Danfloyd1. Wikimedia Commons and English Wikipedia are part of the same family so to speak, but they each have their own separate policies and guidelines specifically geared to the role each is intended to perform. Since Commons deals primarily with image files, the relevant policy is c:Commons:Licensing. Basically, Commons will only accept files when it can be verified to a fairly high degree of certainty that the uploader is the original copyright holder over what has ever been uploaded or that the original copyright holder has given their explicit consent for their work to be uploaded to Commons. After looking at the file, I think Meters is correct in stating that some kind of formal copyright ownership is needed. There are a couple of ways to do this: if you are the original copyright holder of the image, please follow c:Commons:OTRS#Licensing images: when do I contact OTRS?; if not, please follow c:Commons:OTRS#If you are NOT the copyright holder. Once the intent of the original copyright holder has been verified, an OTRS volunteer will add a template (Template:OTRS permission) to the file's page to indicate that the licensing has been verified. One other thing to consider is whether the file you uploaded is an official file created by the school or a derivative work based upon the mascot created by someone else as explained in c:Commons:Derivative works. Derivative works often involve multiple copyrights and can be trickier sort out.

As I mentioned above, Commons just deals with how files are licensed; Wikipedia, on the other hand, deals not only with how files are licensed, but also how they are used in articles. So, even though the licensing of the file might eventually be sorted out, there are still other issues related to context and encyclopedic value which may need to be resolved through discussion on the article's talk page. The best way to add images may be something which editors disagree upon, and when that happens the person wanting to add the image is going to be expected to establish a consensus to do so per Wikipedia:Dispute resolution just as they would be expected to do if the disagreement had to to do with adding textual content.

Finally, you're a new editor who tried to be WP:BOLD in improving an article; there's nothing wrong with that and that's what Wikipedia wants us to do. However, when we are making changes that another editor disagrees with, we need to try and understand why. The fact that someone disagrees with us doesn't make them a bully and them pointing out or flagging our edits as potential problems is also part of being here to improve Wikipedia. Having your edits undone can be frustrating for sure, but you need to be very careful when accusing others of wrongdoing because the Wikipedia community takes such accusations quite seriously; so they should not be made lightly. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:52, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

question to user Sudiani

If you have a question for another editor, please ask on that editor's talk page, not here. This isn't a bulletin board. John from Idegon (talk) 05:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, you helped me to ask a question to user Sudiani about a Hollywood Reporter page 1 article from December 28, 1978 and he answered: I don't have a copy of the article/edition. The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts have the daily editions of The Hollywood Reporter for that period which is where I saw the information. If you are just interested in the Jaws II record, possibly Variety reported similar information when Superman came out and their back issues are available online. I would like to answer thst and ask another question : Thanks for your attention Sudiani. I actually want to know about Superman movie Christmas 1978 box office and Hollywood Reporter from December 27 and 28 ,1978 has such info ( I am a Variety subscriber and unfortunately it doesn't have this information from Hollywood Reporter that you saw.) As I live in Brazil, I would like a favor: one day,if you go again to The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts , can you please copy the text or photo the 'Superman' takes $3.2 mil one day December 28th 1978 article for me?? And see if the December 27 edition has more info? I would be so grateful... Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starmarco2014 (talk • contribs) 05:07, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Citations - government websites

Hi, my question is about citation protocols for factual content about places. I am wondering if it is acceptable to use town, government organization, and/or other websites with factual info about the topic even if those citations are not arms' length? The specific content I'm exploring building right now is information about provincial parks, and nearly all data on this topic that is available on the internet is on the government website associated with these parks. Obtaining multiple arms' length sources is going to be a big stretch. It's (so far) apolitical material so I'm curious where the line is drawn on these things for appropriate citation standards. Thanks! McDoggo (talk) 05:58, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@McDoggo: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It depends on what you are trying to cite. The relevant guidelines is probably WP:PRIMARY; "A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge." If you are just citing purely indisputable factual information, like the features of a park, number of visitors, etc., information from the administering government agency should be fine. The key is that the source cannot offer an interpretation of the information 331dot (talk) 10:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Ok, I should be covered then, this is helpful. Thank you! McDoggo (talk) 12:59, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

What principle of science is a creationist obligated to reject?

I am a new editor who got into a discussion with more experienced editors about a source used in my edits that had been reverted. In response to a puzzling statement, I asked three questions, the title for this section being the first one. The response was even more puzzling, but the tone of the discussion changed dramatically when one of the participants suggested that I come here for answers, expecting "a much more positive experience." So here I am. If anyone here cares to comment or maybe even pick up the discussion where we left off, please go here for context, search for the question in the title, and check out both hits to zero in. ThomasJamesGodfrey (talk) 11:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, ThomasJamesGodfrey. I'm afraid I'm a bit confused why Guy Macon should have told you at Talk:Book of Joshua to bring your questions here. It is true (I hope) that Teahouse hosts are focused on welcoming new users, but to my mind this is not a place for questions about specific articles, and even less about the philosophy of science or anything else. I'm sorry that you seem to be getting sent from one place to another, but I doubt if anybody is going to be willing to address that question here.

I'm not sure where else to send you. If it were a dispute about the content of the article, I would point you at the dispute resolution process. But for the more philosophical question you are asking, perhaps there is an active Wikiproject that is relevant; or else to the Village Pump. --ColinFine (talk) 13:08, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I was hoping that ThomasJamesGodfrey could get some general (not specific) advice on how to contribute to the encyclopedia in ways other that introducing fringe theories into religion pages (which he says that he understands will not fly and has stopped doing). He appears to be a new user who isn't quite clicking on what kind of edits are helpful and what kind of edits are pretty much certain to get immediate push-back from other editors. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:41, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Thanks for explaining. I see that Guy Macon has also explained why he suggested that I come here. He evidently thought I was looking for answers to more general questions only and didn't really care about the questions I had asked him. I thought he meant that I might get answers to my questions for him in a less hostile, more welcoming environment. The environment here seems fine to me, but I should have realized that it would be hard to find anyone willing to take up his side in our discussion. Oh, well. At least the confusion has been cleared up. If I just made a mess here, feel free to get rid of this section. No problem. Best regards. ThomasJamesGodfrey (talk) 19:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

wiki code mystery

Hi, Just wondering why in this version the April articles are missing while they appear in the current version. I couldn't find what made the articles disappear or reappear. Thanks --Golan's mom (talk) 14:02, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm not certain, Golan's mom, but I think it's probably the pipe character ("|") omitted from the end of the "columns" line. --ColinFine (talk) 16:21, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Have two versions of the same article, can you delete one of them?

Hello!

I am working on an article "Jamie Meyer" (in my sandbox). Now I have learned that I have two versions of the same article (one copy). I s it possible for any of you to delete one of them, so I have only one left to work with? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uppsalaelle (talk • contribs) 14:26, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Uppsalaelle Looks like one is at User:Uppsalaelle/sandbox and the other at Draft:Jamie Meyer. Which one are you wanting to keep? If you put this at the top of the page you don't want, someone will delete it: {{Db-g7}} --valereee (talk) 14:53, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Valeree! Thanks for the help! I need to try to understand what you mean. I'm not technical. I dont know how I manage to create two articles. It does not matter which one is deleted, the text is quite similar. Huge thanks anyway! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Uppsalaelle (talk • contribs) 15:20, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Uppsalaelle: (and may I say what a lovely name that is :D ) you did not do anything wrong - another editor moved the article from User:Uppsalaelle/sandbox to Draft:Jamie Meyer because the latter is a better location for an article that is under development. Unfortunately, it looks like they forgot to tell you about it, and so when you went back to your original title, User:Uppsalaelle/sandbox, you created a new draft there. Nothing to worry about though, it's just a matter of deleting the copy and making sure that you know which version to work on! Shall I tag User:Uppsalaelle/sandbox with the deletion template for you, or do you prefer to do it yourself? It's just a matter of pasting the code that Valereee supplied at the top of the page. --bonadea contributions talk 15:33, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, bonadea, and sorry, Uppsalaelle for providing confusing instructions! :) I try to remember how very overwhelming this whole process can be for new users! --valereee (talk) 15:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

bonadea Hi Bonadea! Huge Thanks!!! Can you send the tag for deletion? And then I try to find the draft instead. I only see the sandbox now. Wikipedia is quite complicated :)

@Uppsalaelle: OK, it's tagged! The draft is at Draft:Jamie Meyer - just click that link and it will take you to the draft. --bonadea contributions talk 16:27, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

About references for notability

Hey! My recently published article Abhijeet Srivastava has a tag about its notability. The subject is a bollywood singer and has sung for songs under two old and reliable music labels. I've cited two online platforms like Gaana.com and iTunes, which are not considered credible enough by editors. Please suggest me some platforms which could be used as reference. Is IMDb profile good enough to be used? Please suggest me. Abhayoct13th (talk) 15:28, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@Abhayoct13th: please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources. In this case, I'd imagine those would be newspapers, music or film magazines, and books. If you can't find any reliable sources like that that discuss Srivastava in detail, then the topic is not notable. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Thankyou Finnusertop for the information. I'll keep in mind the points you mentioned.

Abhayoct13th (talk) 15:59, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Anote Tong's assessment

Hi! Nice to meet you! Hope you're having a nice day!. Well, I am working hard on Anote Tong's article, former President of Kiribati, and I would need (if someone can do it) assess an importance level (Low - Mid - High - Top), to the "Kiribati Project" template. Could anybody be available and able to do that? I would be very thankful!!. -- --LLcentury (talk) 18:31, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Since he was a president, the importance is top. Ruslik_Zero 20:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

inexperience with at Templates at baffling issue at Talk:Tom Elliott (radio personality)

I am confused as how to move forward at Talk:Tom Elliott (radio personality) as a variety of issues appear to be arising. X1\ (talk) 19:52, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

X1\, that article provides little evidence that its subject is notable. It has four references: one is to an article he wrote himself, two give "404" messages, and one gives a "DNS failure" message. Unless someone can provide better sources to establish that he's notable, the article is likely to be deleted, making that rather incoherent talk page discussion irrelevant. Maproom (talk) 22:19, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@X1\: I agree with Maproom. I've just spent 15 minutes chasing round the internet to replace one dead link in a rather poor citation about his early life, half of which isn't supported by anything written within the source. If you then can't take enough care to add new sources to further content you want to either add or reinstate about his opinions (which I think Onetwothreeip removed) by supplying links that actually work, I'm not sure we can help you move anything forward. Fix those first. It does look like you've now received a third opinion. Further views on the article as a whole could then be offered if someone wants to put it forward for a Deletion discussion. I'm not sure it merits retention unless you can significantly improve the page with better content and better inline citations to independent sources to demonstrate that he meets WP:NBIO. It seems his claim to fame is as a minor presenter on a small commercial radio station in Melbourne, based upon one story in the city newspaper which originally created that radio station. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)  

Change username

Hello

I was wanting to know how to change my username, I am currently using my first letter and last name, what would be a better one to make it?

Jbegle (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Jbegle and welcome to the Teahouse. You can request a username change by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username, or you could take note of the advice there for users with very few edits, and simply abandon your current account, never ever use it again, and simply create a brand new one. Either way, the choice of username is up to you - albeit with a few limitations described at Wikipedia:Username_policy#Inappropriate_usernames. Looking at your userboxes and past edits, you could choose something like User:IndianaJones or User:IndianaJosei - it really is totally up to you. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:06, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

That sounds like a good username I think I will use the IndianaJones one it sounds awesome, and thanks for your help