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Anyone willing to help??

Hello WikiWorld. I am a brand new editor and I am asking for a "mentor". Someone to take me under their wing and guide me. I have a subject matter that does not come up on Wikipedia. I would like to add it. Thanks in advance. Any takers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GindyLacey (talk • contribs) 16:42, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@GindyLacey: How long are you planning on sticking around? If you are planning to stay for a while, this program may be for you, but if not, this article is a handy read on how to make your article stick around a bit. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:54, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@GindyLacey: If your subject matter doesn't come up on Wikipedia, it could be that it's not regarded as relevant to this encyclopaedia, or fails to meet our Notability criteria. We have different critieria for different subject areas, so it might have helped had you actually said what that subject matter was. To be frank, the Teahouse is a far better place for a brand new user like you to get support than the Adopt-a-User scheme. My own opinion of recently getting involved with that scheme is that nowadays it is best suited to relatively inexperienced editors, but to those who do already have a proven record of serious commitment to Wikipedia, rather than to totally brand new users like yourself with no edits yet to your name. Not that there's anything wrong in being a new user - we all have to start somewhere! But adoption requires a huge commitment from both sides, and in the past, too many people have used it just to get one article written, only then to clear off and never be seen again. Thus a bad investment for us adopters to make. Nowadays, we can probably help you better in the short term here and at our other help fora, and also at Articles for Creation, provided you explain what help you need, and can demonstrate a few sources that show the subject matter is noteworthy enough. For someone to adopt you I do think you need to have created a simple userpage which explains a little about you and your editing interests here. Without that, and with no edits to your name, how can a potential adopter see whether you would suit one another? So please don't be put off if your approach to Denver20 is not successful. I will however pop by in a moment and leave a welcome message full of other helpful links. BTW: You can also gain an understanding of how things work here by having a go at The Wikipedia Adventure - an interactive self-guided tour. Regards, and do pop back and tell us more about what you'd like to achieve here, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:54, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes thank you for your helpful insight. I am completely green at this whole process. I don't even know how to make a simple userpage. I guess I should start with that as my first "tutoring assignment". So if you have the time maybe a quick step by step on the userpage area?? GindyLacey (talk) 16:46, 4 June 2019 (UTC)Gindy Lacey 4 June 2019

@GindyLacey: Sorry I missed your request - you didn't quite get the mechanism right for sending me an automatic notification, but not to worry at this point. (You can check the wikimarkup I used when - which includes two sets of curly brackets. Providing you use that and sign your post at the same time, I get notified). Now, to create your userpage simply follow this red link: User:GindyLacey (or click the tab at the top left in desktop view) . It's a red link becasue the page doesn't exist yet, so it'll say 'Creating User:GindyLacey'. Now simply type something like "Hello this is my userpage" and then look for the big blue 'Publish' button. It's at the bottom of the page in desktop view (i.e. non-mobile view). Click that and your edit will be saved and published as your userpage. You can use this page to say a litle about yourself and your interests in editing Wikipedia. You simply change the contents by clicking either the Tab at the top of the page, which is labelled either 'Edit' or 'Edit source'. To find out more about what is and what isn't acceptable on this page, see this shortcut: Wikipedia:User pages. Hope this all makes sense, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:50, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Would like to help wikipedia with the facts however I am (intimately) connected to the subject

Not sure what you may want to do with my personal experience with the design and development of Microsoft Windows. Because I am also a victim/witness (ei connected to the subject ) I am not sure about Wikipedia rules.

There is a lot more to add than merely the document management API origin material.

I was creating office automation software using the (below) document management API in 1992.

here is some basic material

Which are Windows 95 capability?

I used a document management object properties form ( nearly identical with MS Windows snapshot )

Document Management Object Properties Form

I was asked to attend Top Guns of Imaging by personal friend of Bill Gates.

File:Top Guns of Imaging T-Shirt-clip.001.jpg - Top Guns of Imaging, A Microsoft sponsored event of 1993

@Mawcowboybillsbrick7: Welcome back after a nearly seven year absence, but I confess that I have no idea what you are asking. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.). TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:58, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, TimTempleton

I am asking how to contribute however Wikipedia rules prohibit me from contributing, for example contraversial facts involving the design and development of Microsoft Windows.

regards, maw Mawcowboybillsbrick7 (talk) 22:15, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Mawcowboybillsbrick7. Thank you for wanting to help improve Wikipedia. However, it is a fundamental policy of Wikipedia that everything in an article must be sourced from a reliable published source. Personal knowledge, unless it has been reliably published somewhere, is never acceptable. Sorry. See Verifiability and Original research. --ColinFine (talk) 22:35, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, ColinFine (talk So basically what your saying is that factual events like Top Guns of Imaging don't really exist to Wikipedia. ( Or the software I developed in the 90's, although I can upload material evidence )

My development environment has been resold many times, and it's modified API is currently owned by IBM.

It may be possible to create a Wikipedia article where everything is sourced from a reliable published source however I understand that I can not personally approve modifications to Micosoft Windows history articles, as presented here on Wikipedia ( but are factually misleading )

What I am saying is that I may be able to 'point the way' toward reliable published sources of fact on the Internet but, as you say, I must avoid personal knowledge?

Does this make sense? Wikipedia's Microsoft story is misleading and may be proven using reliable published sources.

For example, Document management imaging software was factually distributed by Microsoft.

Imaging for Microsoft Document Management Desktop

Global 360 Imaging for Windows replaces, and is compatible with, the Wang Imaging for Windows (wangimg.exe) included in Windows 95 and NT and the Kodak Imaging for Windows (kodakimg.exe) and Imaging Preview (kodakprv.exe) in Microsoft Windows 98 and 2000 (sometimes known as Microsoft Windows Imaging).

regards, maw Mawcowboybillsbrick7 (talk) 23:24, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Mawcowboybillsbrick7 - a better approach would be to post your comments, with sourcing, on article talk pages. You will be more likely to find other editors who share your deep interest in Windows and related topics. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:33, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Mawcowboybillsbrick7 (talk) 21:42, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are asking.......however, an encyclopedia article is a collection of material paraphrased from reliable sources about a given subject. No more, no less. John from Idegon (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Very first article was declined...

Hello! My very first article was declined. Sure I made some mistakes. But really don't know how/what to fix. Maybe someone may help me or give me some assistance?!

Many greetings, Palim — Preceding unsigned comment added by PalimPalim1977 (talk • contribs) 05:00, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi PalimPalim1977. If you check at the top of Draft:Tim Luca Schmidt you will find some comments as to why the draft was declined. The main reason appears to be that you failed to demonstrate that the subject of the article meets Wikipedia:Notability (people). You've cited some sources in the draft, but none of them appear to provide the significant coverage necessary to establish Wikipedia notability. Wikipedia articles aren't considered reliable sources for any purpose, while IMDb and YouTube are considered to be user-generated sources in most cases and aren't helpful at all in establishing Wikipedia notability. If you'd want more feedback than this, try asking at User talk:Theroadislong since he's the reviewer who declined the draft. He might be able to provide you with some more specific details. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:26, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

In short, PalimPalim1977, if we were to reduce your draft to what is cited to reliable sources (which is required for articles on living people - see WP:BLP), all that would remain is a blank page. Please read WP:MFA and WP:RS and if you have further questions, come back. John from Idegon (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Citing medical journal articles, pubmed or full text pdf?

Hi community!

I'm trying to cite a medical journal article, and I can either use a link to pubmed - which seems to be the most reputable repository for medical articles, but doesn't have the full text - or use a link to Semantic Scholar - which has the full pdf but doesn't have the track record of pubmed.

The page I edited is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalohematoma and the links are: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17003628 (currently used this one) -or- https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/18b2/2faeff592c6d99d9ad4a8cc5611c16f2af77.pdf (might be more useful for readers who want to click through and read the whole study.

Thanks!

Max — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crljenak (talk • contribs) 14:04, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Personally, I always link to PubMed. Consider the abstracts sufficient for a ref. By the way, for your example, clicking on the journal hyperlink did allow access to PDF. David notMD (talk) 16:40, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

I edited the article and added several "citation needed" tags. If this is an area of your expertise, please continue to improve the article. David notMD (talk) 17:15, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Found this without a section

Why is Jerryism or the Classroom Religions Universe not constructive enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boyperson38 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Boyperson38, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid your question doesn't make any sense to me. I can find no such articles so, if you have concerns over them, could you supply a link to the relevant page, please? Whilst I'm here, please don't add what appears to be made-up content to articles, as you appear to have done here and here. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Creating an Article

I created a draft of an article but I want to know how to make it an actual Wikipedia article (62.64.196.116 (talk) 17:08, 6 June 2019 (UTC))

You'll need to submit it through Articles for Creation. Stick the code {{subst:submit}} (minus the markup in the editing window) and eventually an experienced editor with AfC reviewer rights will deem it worthy (or unworthy) of inclusion. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 17:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Fenn Treasure

I have a concern about a page that has surfaced called Fenn Treasure. Located here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenn_treasure

On it the author claims that he has found the location of the treasure and has slanted the page to try to give readers a negative image of the Forrest Fenn, the originator of the chase. In fact, there is no evidence in the author's writing that the treasure was ever at the location described. It appears that this author is simply upset because he cannot find the treasure and has decided to create a page claiming that the treasure's location was found but the treasure was not there.

The page contains no proof of it's main claim...that the author has found the location of the chest... Keeping this page up in its original form is misleading. I have exchanged email with the author who claims the photo on the page is evidence that this is where the chest should be found...but his evidence proves nothing of the kind.

I don't believe this authors claim is substantiated. When I edit the page to remove the claim the author simply retires the page back to it's original form. Is there some way to resolve this issue? Can an author make an unfounded claim with no substantial evidence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lummifilm (talk • contribs) 17:41, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

I believe you were right to remove it. The contentious material violates Wikipedia's policy on original research. Maproom (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lummifilm! I left a message with some more information and links on your talk page that hope will help. Orville1974 (talk) 18:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Oroville1974. Now that the page has been protected from editing what should I do next to follow up with my concerns about the claims made on the page and also about the bio?Lummifilm (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

I see you're using the talk page now to discuss it. That's the best place to work out content issues with other editors. Orville1974 (talk) 23:15, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Music genres

Hi, I have, I belief, a new genre of music that I am about to present with the help of a book that is in the hands of a publishing company's editing department. I have been a musician for 30+ years, and the genre has some "cousins". The genre I want to build is Caribbean Rock, not to be confused with Reggae Rock, or a few other genres that might sound the same. The sound is not Jimmie Buffet or Beach Boys, it is a harder sound, like throwing together Van Halen and Bob Marley. I have heard just a few tunes that can fit, I have a few more to help build "Caribrock" My question, Would this be visible and worthwhile to start?

Thank you for your time, J.R. Weldon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.163.73 (talk) 18:21, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello J.R.Welldon!- welcome to the Teahouse. There is nothing to stop you being innovative and creating or naming a new genre of music. That's totally your prerogative. But until the world has taken notice of it, and independent people have written about it in detail, I'm afraid there is no place on Wikipedia to promote your creation or your new genre definition. Wikipedia only accepts articles about notable topics that the world has already taken notice of. It cannot help you to promote your own new musical ideas. I'm very sorry to disappoint you. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:05, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Just to followup on Nick's post J.R. please see WP:NOTFORUM where it points out that Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought. Wikipedia depends on WP:SECONDARY sourcing for its articles. You can take advantage of other places on the web like blogs or facebook to put forth your ideas. If they catch on and research is done on them by others over the years they might wind up here one day. Best of luck on your endeavors. MarnetteD|Talk 19:53, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Why?

Why can't I edit the page for Pokémon Sword and Shield? There's some information the last user left out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueblur1991 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Blueblur1991, The article is currently semi-protected, witch means your account needs to have 10 edits and be 4 days old before you can edit it. This is because it is a commonly vandalized article, and protection can keep some of these vandals out. You can still submit an WP:Edit Requests. Good luck! WelpThatWorked (talk) 18:38, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

James Best-Actor

He also appeared in a 1955 episode of The Lone Ranger. The episode wasn't named, only stating the show first aired in 1947 but the copyright in the credits was for 1955. 1947 must have been when the series started? I only looked him up here because I just saw the episode on tv. I don't know how to edit. Just thought you might like to know about the omission? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.243.7.147 (talk) 20:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. The article Lone Ranger has a Talk page that you can access via the tab at the top left of the page. To post your concerns, click the tab for "New section" at the top of the Talk page. Don't spare any details, and try to be clear and unambiguous. I left a note on your Talk page about how to sign posts. Please read it.--Quisqualis (talk) 09:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Flickr Commons licensing

Hello and good day, I would like to include this pic in the ibx of the new article Aziz Abu Sarah, but I've never uploaded from this site before, and I don't understand the procedure nor the propriety of same based on the existing licensing this pic has? Havradim (talk) 20:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Havradim. Flikr offers a variety of licenses to its users, and that particular photo uses a license that restricts commercial re-use. Therefore, that photo cannot be used on Wikipedia because our licensing allows commercial re-use. Please see Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr for more detailed information about the acceptable licensing. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Darryl K. Williams

There is a Darryl K. Williams of Roxbury then Milton, Massachusetts who was paralyzed by a random gunshot in Charlestown, Massachusetts in 1979 as a teenager during a football game he was playing in. Darryl was an example of forgiveness and social activism in a time of racial tensions and was written about by sports editors. He has two unpublished works, according to his mother. Is he worth an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreekChanter (talk • contribs) 00:02, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

@GreekChanter: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Unpublished works would not merit one an article, as they are not publicly available. If there is significant coverage about this person in independent reliable sources,(be it on or offline) he may merit an article. Please see the biography notability guidelines for more information, as well as Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 00:11, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Perception of Swiss Standard German

Hello. How do other native speakers of German (particularly those from the north) perceive the Swiss accent in German? Is it perhaps subject to mockery, especially with their [ər] for the low schwa [ɐ] and Italian-style geminates (as in immer)? I'm asking this because I'm trying to figure out what's the point of including SSG (and Austrian SG as well) in Help:IPA/Standard German.

See this discussion if you're interested. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 01:50, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

• That question may be a better fit for WP:RD/L (or a German-speaking forum...). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Tigraan: I've moved it there, thanks. Kbb2 (ex. Mr KEBAB) (talk) 08:41, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

how do you add referances?

i am not sure of how i can add references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karentookmykids (talk • contribs) 02:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Karentookmykids. There are couple of different ways to add citations to articles. Try taking a look at Help:Referencing for beginners for some general information. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:18, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

vandalism

would adding "use in popular culture" be considered vandalism if i added it to the page for the name karen, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karentookmykids (talk • contribs) 02:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

If you mean to create a new section for the article Karen I suggest don't. David notMD (talk) 03:08, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Karen is a disambiguation page. That means it should only be used to refer readers to related Wikipedia articles. See WP:disambiguation. However, you can add sections to Karen (name) if your topics are notable and you can provide reliable sources to support their inclusion.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:43, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

And to answer the other part of your question, Karentookmykids, vandalism in Wikipedia is defined as deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose. Edits intended to improve Wikipedia as an encyclopaedia in good faith are not vandalism, even if in the end they are decided not to be helpful and get removed. --ColinFine (talk) 09:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

how do you add new paragraphs

how? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karentookmykids (talk • contribs) 02:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

First, please 'sign' your comments here by typing four of ~ at the end. Second, if you mean paragraphs within an article section, use the ENTER key to create a blank line between the existing paragraph and the new one. David notMD (talk) 03:11, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Was this a real question? Eschoryii (talk) 03:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Some people might be used to word processor–style (i.e., print-style) paragraphs, a newline and a tab, instead of a double newline. Eman235/talk 03:42, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Article about Attestation

Hi,

i want to make a article based on attestation and its process for a attestation service provider. How can i get notable sources on attestation? Will the article stay on wikipedia if it doesn't have a notable source? can i write the article with the company website as a source? By attestation, it means certificate or document attestation for travelling abroad from your home country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.191.66.130 (talk) 05:50, 7 June 2019 (UTC) 202.191.66.130 (talk) 06:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi 202.191.66.130 and welcome to the Teahouse. No, the subject's website is not an independent source. You need to find WP:Reliable sources in which the company has ben written about at length, and the article should summarise what these sources say. Are you connected with the company? If so, you have a WP:Conflict of interest and possibly WP:Paid status which needs to be declared. Dbfirs 08:18, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for reply. i didn't understand what do you mean by reliable sources? does that mean articles about attestation in blogs, sites etc. I am not planning to write about the company profile. I am trying to write about attestation in general and the other attestation related services? So can i write an article about that in Wikipedia. [HRD Attestation, MEA Attestation, Embassy Attestation, MOFA Attestation.] Are you referring to the reference section in wikipedia when you mean notability.

202.191.66.130 (talk) 11:12, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/attestation

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/attestation

http://www.norkaroots.net/certificateattestation.aspx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attestation

202.191.66.130 (talk) 11:28, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

The words “WP:Reliable sources” in Dbfirs' reply above make a hyperlink – please click it and read the linked page, it describes what the ‘reliable source’ is for Wikipedia.
What concerns the meaning of ‘notability’ in Wikipedia, you can follow the WP:Notability link to find out. --CiaPan (talk) 11:29, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

I need information how to create my company wiki page

hello mate i just wanted to know how to create company page in wikipedia as i saw many of company created their live page here so i want to become a contributor. please guide me the whole process how is this possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billdigi (talk • contribs) 08:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Billdigi and welcome to the Teahouse. It sounds as if you have a WP:Conflict of interest and posibly WP:Paid status in creating an article about "your" company, so it would be better if you didn't try. Please note that Wikipedia is written in formal standard English, and requires WP:Reliable references for all additions. You might like to try WP:The Wikipedia Adventure. Dbfirs 09:04, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

@Billdigi: I would also add that a lot of people wrongly assume Wikipedia can help them promote their company. We don't. If any person, company, band, sportsperson or even a new variety of cheese fails to meet our described criteria for 'Notability' it would be a waste of anyone's time trying. If however, that subject has been written about in detail and in depth by independent third party sources (and I don't just mean stuff copied from a PR notice and pasted into insider business newspapers, such as 'Cheese News'), then there may be a chance. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) to help you determine whether your company merits someone else writing about it. If it does, then someone surely will. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:22, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Use of Google Search Statistics

Hi, I am writing an article for a Sri Lankan automobile company as part of my university assignment. Under a section about the company's notable appearances on global news, I want to relate it to how the name of the company became searched up more than before.

Would this count as original research? The data is publicly available through Google trends and I am just gathering it. Just wanted to make sure there won't be any repercussions? LullabyPie (talk) 08:21, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, LullabyPie. This probably falls well into the realms of Original Research unless, that is, other news media and independant analyists have written at length on how that company has come to prominence by taking some unusual SEO strategy. Your question suggests you already understand that this is an encyclopaedia, not a place to promote or go into great detail into the minutiae of a company. Sometimes less is more, and only if a thrid party has written about how Google Trend data shows something significant about that company should you include that in an article. (NOTE: This question has been moved over from the Teahouse Talk page which is used only for issues relating to managing and operating the Teahouse, and not for seeking help or advice on editing Wikipedia.) Nick Moyes (talk) 08:57, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi LullabyPie and welcome to the Teahouse. You seem to have confused range with top speed in your draft. Since this is a university assignment, I'll leave it to you to put right. Dbfirs 10:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello help

Hello am trying to post an article about someone but am finding it difficult what do I do — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilijmae (talk • contribs) 09:25, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ilijmae. Articles on Wikipedia are not "posted"; instead, they are written as encyclopedia articles and then reviewed by other Wikipedia editors. If your article has previously been rejected, you should make note of the reasons given, and deal with the issues raised. If you want to write an article and don't know how, please read wp:Your first article, wp:Referencing for beginners and proceed slowly and carefully. Article -writing on Wikipedia is not an easy task. Good luck!--Quisqualis (talk) 10:02, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

@Quisqualis: As far as the User's talk page shows, it's about Jayne Cobain, and one of attempts (in a rough, initial version) is in the sandbox.
Best regards. --CiaPan (talk) 10:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
P.S. Please use {{Reply to}} or a shortcut {{Re}} when answering, especially when answering to new users, which may not know how to watch their threads in the teahouse. CiaPan (talk)

Comments on your Talk page explain in detail why you are having problems (Speedy deletion, etc.). Briefly, Jayne Cobain may not yet be notable by Wikipedia criteria, meaning that there is not independently written stuff about her that can be considered reliable sources. What she says about herself (blog, social media, interviews...) does not count. Secondly, you tried pasting in copyrighted material and that is a big no-no. Thirdly, as a friend, you should declare a conflict of interest (see WP:COI). David notMD (talk) 12:23, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Missing/conflicting information - with someone is already editing

Hello all. I have a page that seems to be in conflict with another page. I see under edit history there is a user already working on correcting the page in question; as there seems to be a preview of the coming changes. But I do not see an edit for the particular issue. Is their talk page appropriate to mention something to them, or what is the best way to see if this person is researching the issue or is even aware of it - in their process of fixing the page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Codecharmer (talk • contribs) 14:11, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Editing and Sharing a new Page

Hello! I would need help cause I created an account and I need to create a page. Is it just necessary to write what I want to publish in the sandbox and make it publish afterwards? What about the layout of the page? Does is come in automatic once shared it?

Furthermore, I just requested to edit a page (without following the normal criteria, i.e "Change X with Y" "because..", just because I need another information to be added in the page). This was my first editing request so I have two questions: 1. Is it possible that my request will be rejected? 2. By when I will get an answer about my editing request? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Consules MUN (talk • contribs) 14:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Because the article in question is semi-protected you did the right thing by submitting an edit request at the Talk of the page. Sooner or later someone will act on your request. As to creating an article, this borrowed from ColinFine: "Welcome to the Teahouse and Wikipedia. Anybody may create new articles, but very new editors can't do so directly. Writing articles (I strongly recommend you think of this phrase rather than "creating pages") is one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia, and I always advise new users to spend a few weeks or months editing and improving existing articles before they try it. (We have millions of articles that would benefit from this!). But when you want to try it, please study Your first article, which among other things tells you how to use the articles for creation process, that even new editors have permission to use." Lastly, 'sign' your comments here by typing four of ~ at the end. David notMD (talk) 15:12, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Need help adding info to an article

Hello!

My name is Simone and I would like to add info to Simon Chang's (designer) bio. I am his assistant. I was told I needed to advise of my COI.

I edited the article previously without citations. I now have citations and I need to post it to a "talk" board of something of a sort for a 3rd party to review and post. I'm not sure how to do this.

Thanks for your help.

Simone SimoneNoble (talk) 14:22, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

@SumoneNoble: hi - the talk page can be found at the top tab when on the page. Here’s a direct link Talk:Simon Chang (designer). You can add the edit request code - see Wikipedia:Edit requests for more info. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

The Cause For Joseph Immaculate Article

I have just written a new article called "The Cause For Joseph Immaculate" and I have had a problem with regard to a quote from a website and my article is soon to be deleted. I have got the information necessary for Wikipedia to contact the website which is called "Compelling Truth" as it has an emergency email on the website in order to ask permission to use the article from this website on my Wikipedia page. I have left a message for Cassiopia on my talk page but I am wondering if it will be read in time before my page is permanently deleted. Could you tell me the best way to get this information to the right people so that my page on Wikipedia is not deleted? I would really appreciate your assistance in this matter. Yours Sincerely. June Brown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FJBrown (talk • contribs) 15:17, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

No, too late. Draft:The Cause For Joseph Immaculate has been speedy deleted as a copyvio. (And the name of the admin is CASSIOPEIA, with an E.)   Maproom (talk) 16:21, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

FJBrown, consider also that, even if not copypasted, "Compelling Truth" is unlikely to be considered a WP:Reliable source. Per their "about" page: The purpose statement of CompellingTruth.org is: "Presenting the truth of the Christian faith in a compelling, relevant, and practical way.". That is not WP:s purpose. For a topic like this, try to find university-published books on the topic, and summarize what they say. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:05, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Attribution

Lets say I create an article, but roughly two thirds of its content derives from a page in draft-space; do I have to give attribution to the draft page or to its contributors? 92.10.235.192 (talk) 16:12, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes. John from Idegon (talk) 16:21, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Editing etiquette

If I wanted to make several changes to the same article at the same time (e.g. remove unnecessary content from one section, fix spelling and in grammar another section, and add new information to a section), should these changes be done in one edit or split up into multiple edits? I feel like some users might find splitting the edits up frustrating as it can clog up the edit history, but on the other hand, I think it makes it easier to see what changes have been made and to revert edits if there are problems with them. Is there an etiquette guideline on this? Thanks, SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 17:16, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer seeing section by section edits as stand-alones. That way, if I believe the edits were not an improvement, or were errors, or were not referenced. I can edit section by section. For extreme example, see Vitamin deficiency where I made >100 edits over a one week period. David notMD (talk) 18:11, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, but I wanted to get confirmation. Thanks so much for your reply. :) SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 19:38, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Replacement of existing image with a brand-new image of Chef Khalid Dahbi

I have replaced the existing image of Khalid Dahbi with a brand new one. This image is taken by Dahbi using a photographer and this image is not used anywhere else in print or web. Earlier I used an image provided by him not knowing that the image is already used in facebook. I have pasted the links (in 3 different places) suggested by wiki to indicate this edit. I have also inidcated that I'm not the owner of this image but indicated that Khalid is the owner. May I know how long it takes to get this image approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sksigworth (talk • contribs) 17:19, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

The photo at Commons has been nominated for deletion 7 June. Possible problems here: A) You have loaded to Commons a photo of KD, but the article is still in draft, B)You tried to put the photo in the draft, but used the wrong format, C) Photographers are usually the owners of photos. In this instance you are saying that Khalid is the owner. See Commons:Deletion requests/File:Khalid New IMG-20190603-WA0002.jpg for deletion discussion. Lastly, you wrote that you are Dahbi's assistant authorized by him to use it, which means you have to declare a paid relationship (See WP:PAID).

I am an old editor (in about every sense)

but still manage to discover new problems. I was checking out some links and references in Men's rights movement in India, in the “Organizations” section, trying to format things better but found myself wondering if these links should be here at all. And if these were real references or recruiting tools? Newsletters? Or something. I feel that I am not the best person to decide whether these should be here, so decided to ask here. Rather than on the talk page, for example. Any ideas? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:04, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Carptrash Because you've been around for so long - we thought you'd be OK hanging on for a bit before we answered you. (Just kidding; welcome!). You're right to be concerned, though I would probably have raised this on the talk page of the article, as you had considered doing. There is certainly no justification for an 'Organisations' section which is just a bullet list of names and a link, irrespective of whether those links are valid or promotional. At the very least, non-wiki linked names should go in the 'External links' section, whilst wikilinked ones should be in 'See also'. Some like Save Indian Family Foundation are already in the 'See also' section, so should simply be deleted. You or other editors would have to work through each external link in turn to determine any sense of promotion, but links from an organisation that simply go to an online newspaper are not appropriate at all. Hope this helps a bit, and sorry for the wait for a reply. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)  

@Nick Moyes:You are absolutely correct in assuming (as you humorously seem to have done) that I am not in a hurry. Thanks for getting back to me at all, although your reply was (1) more or less what I had figured and (2) more or less what I did not want to hear. I have found that men's right stuff is my achilles heel (one of two) when it comes to my editing like an adult. Doing it cross-culturally, as I suspect this will turn out to be, can be another hurdle. But I also understand "deal with it" so am heading for the talk page. But not in a hurry. Carptrash (talk) 16:21, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Question about first article -- notability

I am preparing to write my first article outright on Wikipedia, but have a question about notability. The article is about a business person who is a top investor and top executive of a company, well-known in a specific industry. There are various independent sources referencing him in other online and print publications -- is this enough to make such an informational bio "notable" and able to be published on Wikipedia? Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tracewriter (talk • contribs) 19:30, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tracewriter, and welcome. It certainly sounds possible. It hard to saymore though without specifics. Would you be willing to list the best sources you have for your article here? Then we could look at them and see whether they actually establish notiability. LadyofShalott 19:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia entry on "Geophysical survey (archaeology)"

Hi, The Wikipedia entry on Geophysical survey (archaeology) should be renamed to "Geophysical archaeological prospection" or "Geophysical prospection (archaeology)", since these are the commonly used terms. The expression "Geophysical survey" in regard to "geophysical archaeological prospection" is rather uncommon. How would one go about this? Thank you for any advice! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itrinks (talk • contribs) 2019-06-07T22:00:59 (UTC)

Hi, Itrinks. The best thing to do is to suggest this on the article's talk page. If after a week or so nobody has objected, you can move the page to the new title. --ColinFine (talk) 00:03, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Notability

I'm thinking of attempting to create a page called 'UEFA Euro 2020 qualifying goalscorers'. Would this be a notable topic? Or are there any other reasons not to write it? Barmanitan (talk) 21:44, 7 June 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barmanitan (talk • contribs) 21:40, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Barmanitan. The topic is notable if you can find several reliable publications which discuss the issue. It is not enough that you can find a list of the goalscorers: you would need to find places where people have actually written about the goalscorers specifically (not just listed them, but actually a significant amount of prose). I rather doubt whether this is a notable topic, but you can look. See GNG. --ColinFine (talk) 00:08, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Becoming an editor

How can I request to become an editor? Are there any other programs I can take part in Wikipedia. I want to help as much as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imperial Numismatics (talk • contribs) 22:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

You ARE an editor, in that you have already been editing articles and creating a draft article. You might like to try WP:The Wikipedia Adventure. David notMD (talk) 01:52, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Found two nearly identical articles on major topic

Hi, I am still new to wikipedia (I still havent registred an account) so I dont know how stuff works here, but I found two articles that are nearly identical, both on an arguably important topic. I know sometimes articles here get merged. Perhaps someone could merge these two (or start a discussion on the matter)? Thanks.

Articles in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Legend , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_legend_(Spain)

5.44.170.9 (talk) 22:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Good catch, but I think that's deliberate. If you look at the Distinction between "black legend" and "The black legend" discussion on the talk page, you'll see some of the history in the split of the two articles. At a brief glance, it looks like the Black Legend article is intended to cover the wider concept, and Black legend (Spain) covers the details about the most prevalent use of the term. After reading through a bit of the history, if you still believe they should be merged, you can start a discussion on the talk page to get input from other editors. Schazjmd (talk) 00:17, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Revision history

Is it permissible to revert an article to a version last edited by a banned editor if you feel this version is the most accurate revision? 92.10.235.192 (talk) 22:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

If the article is controversial, it might be better to discuss on the talk page first. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:15, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

DJ Kelblizz Biography

Please help me to create an article of DJ Kelblizz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizkizayo (talk • contribs) 02:52, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

{{Reply to}}Any college writing instructor can teach you to write an article about anything. However, if you wish to see an article about DJ Kelblizz on Wikipedia, there is a serious problem with that. You see, there is nothing about DJ Kelblizz on the Internet other than "Social Media". Articles on Wikipedia must be sourced to wp:Reliable sources, and social media isn't considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. It looks as though Google is doing a fine job of listing all DJ Kelblizz's social media accounts, which I'm sure are completely full of valuable information regarding DJ Kelblizz's musical successes. Thank you.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:04, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Wizkizayo. Here's the bad news for you: Wikipedia is not a promotional platform for up and coming DJs or for anyone else. This is a neutral encyclopedia with stringent policies and guidelines. Please read our notability guideline for musical performers, and also read Your first article. If you are the DJ or work for the DJ, please comply with our mandatory paid editing disclosure. If you continue on your path of promotional editing, you will be blocked. So please stop. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:13, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

How to edit television series table?

Hello Teahouse,

I tried to edit the episodes table for television series Yummy Mummies. Even though only the first 8 episodes of series 1 are listed (there are 10 episodes), I don't seem to be able to make changes. All of them should be series 1 in the first column. I tried double clicking but I couldn't change it?

Thanks for your help, sorry this is probably very obvious! SunnyBoi (talk) 05:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, SunnyBoi, welcome back to the Teahouse. To edit a page by double-clicking (which not many people do), you need to have that option selected in Special:Preferences>Editing. Is yours deselected? The normal way to edit the page is to click the 'Edit' Tab or the 'Edit Source' Tab at the top of the page, or to look for the edit link adjacent to each sub-section of the page. All three routes of accessing the page to edit Yummy Mummies work for me. As you are extended confirmed, I can't see any other reason you can't edit it unless you're accessing Wikipedia via a blocked proxy server, such as Puffin Browser - but then you'd see a really scary red notice telling you you're blocked from editing. As you didn't mention this, I doubt that's the cause. Does this help? Please let us know how you get on. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:27, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Nick Moyes and thanks for your reply! When I click on the edit tab, I found that even if I double clicked within the table rows (visual formatting), the only options I had were to tab - new row. I managed to alter some things in source editing but I haven't had these challenges with tables below, so I must've been doing something weird. Hmm! Thank you! SunnyBoi (talk) 09:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Al Bell

My problem with the article below on Al Bell is about the sentence which states that he was honored May 11 2020 - clearly incorrect because we have not reached that date in time as yet. Please make the appropriate correction. Gulfrey Clarke...confused

Al Bell From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigation Jump to search Al Bell Birth name Alvertis Isbell Born March 15, 1940 (age 79) Brinkley, Arkansas, United States Genres Soul, gospel Occupation(s) Record producer, songwriter, record executive, disc jockey Years active 1965 – present Labels Stax, Motown, Bellmark Associated acts The Staple Singers, Isaac Hayes, Tag Team

Al Bell (born Alvertis Isbell, March 15, 1940)[1] is an American record producer, songwriter, and record executive. He is best known as having been an executive and co-owner of Stax Records, based in Memphis, Tennessee, during the latter half of the label's 19-year existence.

The University of Arkansas honored his lifetime of accomplishment by bestowing an honorary degree on May 11,2020. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.165.228.48 (talk) 05:13, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy Link: Al Bell - Rojomoke (talk) 05:46, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
I've reverted the edit as unsourced. Rojomoke (talk) 05:49, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Replaying Table History

Is there a visual way of "replaying" changes that have happened in a wiki table over the years? I tried looking at the history, but there are so many small changes involving formatting,style,typos to wade through. Not sure how to find t big changes happens. I am looking at this table and want to see what the member names were at the end of each year from 2007 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andhra_Pradesh_Legislative_Council#Members_of_Legislative_Council Thanks for any help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pvf2019 (talk • contribs) 07:31, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Pvf2019, and welcome to the Teahouse. The first thing to say is that you can't go back to 2007 as that article was created on 3 September 2010! (Click 'oldest' in the 'View History' tab to see the very first edits.) Secondly, you really don't need to wade through each revision one at a time - there are 475 of them for that page! Have you ever noticed the little empty circles (called 'radio buttons') next to the entry for each individual revision? What you need to do is select two dates (say 6 June 2019 and 29 December 2018) by clicking the radio button beside just those two edits. Then click the 'Compare Selected Revisions' box. What you then see is this page showing all the revisions made between those two dates. Changes show up in bold type. Now, you may need to do this a few times to find the best stable version, as you have no other way of knowing whether some vandal has added a false name just before the first date you selected, or indeed when the page was fully updated with correct information. You can, of course, also click on the individual date of one particular edit in the page's long history and display just that whole page see this example for 14 January 2015. See Help:Page history for more information on ways to access an article's history.

Sadly, many of these election tables rarely seem to get good references included or updated which might allow you to look up the source documents on which that table was based. That is the only sound and reliable way of getting the data you seek, and is why we advise people never to fully trust Wikipedia content, but always to utilise the sources on which that content should be based. It would also be wonderful if one could select a table or a page section and scroll between edits in just that element of the page, rather than between whole pages, but I don't believe there is any way to do that. I hope this answer is of assistance to you. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:16, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Nick Moyes! That was a great explanation. I now get how to widen the diff gap between larger date ranges. That's really useful. Will use it to verify some data I have. Thanks! And yup I have been searching all over, to figure out where these tables came from. Absurdly, can't even find them on the govt website/archives. Will probably have to visit a library and look things up. Anyways, thanks once again for your time --Pvf2019 (talk) 16:22, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@Pvf2019: You're welcome. Are you aware of The Wayback Machine? Its a very good way of checking archived versions if websites. The url is https://web.archive.org. You might find old stuff there to help you.Nick Moyes (talk) 17:07, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: yup thanks, I have been digging around there and finding bits and pieces. While I have your attention I guess I should ask...I am finding old tables in these archives, which don't really have their own article pages. So I tried creating a new article page following the wizard and produced this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Andhra_Pradesh_Council_of_Ministers,1983 Is that the process for new tables? Seems straight forward enough, but just a bit unsure if thats all to it. I just follow that same story for other table right? --Pvf2019 (talk) 18:26, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@Pvf2019: I'm not really sure what you're asking me. Yes, you appear to have correctly constructed a table. But I don't think all that copied content about responsibilities would be appopriate for a list article. The source looks fine to show who was a member in 1983, but I would only include a small selection of those duties. Nick Moyes (talk) 02:54, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: That was just general uncertainty about process, format, content etc being the first page I am adding. Each state seems to have some other style of presenting the info. And yeah...it does look like a giant paragraph of text rather than a table. Will keep it simple. Thanks!

wrong place

I wrote an article in a wrong place. Instead of writing the article in the Sandbox for submission, I wrote the article in the Talk. How, what is the fastest way to correct this mistake and submit article ? I copy the article in talk and paste it to Sandbox but still cannot submit the article, why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chong Regan (talk • contribs) 09:36, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

You succeeded in moving the content to your Sandbox, so if you want to, you can delete it from your Talk page. I expect another editor will explain how to submit your Sandbox draft to Articles for Creation (AfC). David notMD (talk) 10:41, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Edits on a Living Bio.

Hi, I spot some minor problems regarding a page. However due to the fact that the person is living and breathing (hopefully) it is semi-protected. I am unsure if I should state the problem onto the talk page or do I do something else?

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Hudgens

Thanks. DZL (talk) 09:38, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@Dzl232: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, stating the issues you see on the article talk page is the correct thing to do if the page has any level of protection keeping you from editing it. You may just tell what the issue is, but you can also make it a formal edit request to get a little more attention. Eventually someone with the ability to edit the page will see it. 331dot (talk) 09:40, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, help to write the article correctly.

Hello, help to write the article correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Phil_Mezcal This article is rejected due to insufficient evidence from reliable sources. What changes need to be made? An article about a creative person - a musician who can, if necessary, present the evidence you need. thank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paoloarmani (talk • contribs) 12:55, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

No references = rejected. David notMD (talk) 01:58, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Ananda Daham Pasala is real!

I added description about Ananda Daham Pasala because any one reading the wikipaedia page of Ananda college will know about it. Ananda Daham Pasala has an fb page too. If u go to that, u will see our teachers and students, prefects. Please do not delete our description. I uploaded our logo to prove that we are really existing. This is not a joke. Please let the whole description about Ananda Daham Pasala exist on the wikipaedia page of Ananda College. I hope you will give us good response. Thank you.

Vinuka Walawage — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinuka Walawage (talk • contribs) 13:58, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@Vinuka Walawage: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I assume this might refer to Draft:Ananda Daham Pasala and edits to Ananda College. No one has said the Sunday School is not real, however Wikipedia cannot be used for promotional purposes like spreading the word about this Sunday School. This Sunday school must be discussed in independent reliable sources in order to be mentioned here. Its own Facebook page is not an independent reliable source. If you work for the school, you have a conflict of interest and should not directly edit about your school; instead, you should make an edit request on the article talk page, or otherwise discuss the matter there. 331dot (talk) 14:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I assume this might refer to Draft:Ananda Daham Pasala and edits to Ananda College.

If you say I am promoting the sunday school, then you must remove the description about the old boys association(OBA) of Ananda College and the olcott oration. Because that is also promoting. There are number of other societies in Ananda College who does great service like OBA and there are other prominent occations, celebrations like the olcott oration. I didn't mean to promote Ananda Daham Pasala. The objective of Wikipaedia is to improve people's knowledge. I don't think you can refuse that fact. So for everyone's attention, please keep the small description about Ananda Daham Pasala in the wikipaedia page of Ananda College.

i need help

who can help me to edit page for me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exaarapking (talk • contribs) 16:16, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Exaarapking and welcome to the Teahouse. Are you wanting to write your WP:Autobiography here? Please read the linked advice, and think again. Google finds only self-generated sources when I search. Wikipedia requires independent WP:Reliable sources. Dbfirs 17:17, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Advice needed on whether Wikipedia would consider a subject notable

I would like to write about a person who was critical to devising a revolutionary technique for wildlife research and which technique has at least 5 Wikipedia sites devoted to it but do not mention or cite this person even though the person published his articles earlier than those cited on the sites. However, the person has not been featured in any major popular publications, so he might not be considered notable by Wikipedia standards. He has published several scientific articles and is still living. I would like to propose to Wikipedia material that does indicate this person's expertise and that documents his contributions but does not seem to fit Wikipedia's standards for documenting notability and obtain advice from Wikipedia's experts as to whether this material would suffice for indicating notability. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.84.244.65 (talk) 17:14, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi! Take a look at this page and consider whether the person you are considering meets these requirements: WP:NACADEMIC. If so, you can find guidance on writing your first article here: WP:Your first article and here WP:RS, but writing an article that meets Wikipedia standards can be a difficult undertaking for newer editors. I recommend getting your feet wet by starting with editing articles, adding sourced information, to learn the process and familiarize yourself with Wikipedia standards of notability. You can respond here or on my talk page if you have more questions/would like further guidance. Orville1974 (talk) 17:37, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi 134.84.244.65 and welcome to the Teahouse. I suggest that you start the article in your sandbox or in WP:Draft space where you can develop the article. Please read WP:Your first article and WP:Biographies of living persons. The process is to find independent WP:Reliable sources in which the person has been discussed at length, and to summarise these sources in your own words. Please do not add information from unpublished sources because Wikipedia does not accept these. You might also like to read WP:Notability (people) to decide whether the person is notable in the Wikipedia sense. Dbfirs 17:41, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Can't tell if my article was published...

Hi there,

I wrote my first article and hit publish...Now I can see it in my watchlist but it says it's an unpublished draft. I've tried publishing from there, but it doesn't work. Any help would be appreciated, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavin Seal (talk • contribs) 17:26, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Gavin Seal:, your draft has not been submitted yet, but before you hit the blue submit button, I recommend adding third-party, independent sources to the article. Otherwise, it will likely get rejected fairly quickly. Here's some guidance to help: Wikipedia:Your_first_article and WP:RS. You can respond here or on my talk page if you have more questions. Orville1974 (talk) 17:30, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

ClueBot NG needs to be worked on. How did i make a mistake in this? I added a weather section on this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausana See below. Dbfirs 17:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Nausana Article

Adding new section for this question posted above - ClueBot NG needs to be worked on. How did i make a mistake in this? I added a weather section on this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nausana. (question asked by User:ShoushaJr in unrelated section above). Orville1974 (talk) 17:47, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi ShoushaJr and welcome to the Teahouse. The only reason I can see is that you put the reference before the information. You can report false positives here. Dbfirs 17:49, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

How to handle issues with other editors

Hello Everyone, I've been editing on and off on Wikipedia for some time. I make an effort to learn from mistakes and to improve as an editor and to improve past work whenever I can. At times, over the years I have felt some editors haven't been diplomatic and that sometimes their actions (meaning the communication they impart and the edits they make or responses the publish) are hostile or retaliatory. When you arrive at the conclusion that the editor is not willing to have a respectful dialog and this begins to diminish one's interest in contributing further, is there a resource in this ecosystem (a board?) that one can reach out to for resolution to avoid this becoming a permanent or ongoing problem? I am not basing this on any recent incidents - purely based on experiences in the past, when contributions made in good faith have resulted in this type of situation.--1987atomheartbrother (talk) 18:11, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @1987atomheartbrother:, I agree sometimes other editors can be mean/undiplomatic. I too can sometimes come out as harsh. But just remember that we are all imperfect human beings and sometimes what is undiplomatic to you may not be undiplomatic to them. Perhaps if they seem really undiplomatic you could leave a kind message on their talk page address your concern. Just remember that they are trying to make Wikipedia better as well (their edits are good-faith as well). Even if an editor conescomes out as hostile, it doesn't mean they want you to stop contributing to Wikipedia. Who knows, they could be tired or have a different definition of what's hostile or not (and that's okay). What helps me is that I just try to read though their comment and thank then. To my knowledge there is no board to report that type of problem. Please see Cullen328's comment below

But perhaps creating a positive welcoming eccoystem starts with me. If I try to be positive and welcoming to other editors maybe they will too. Maybe you can (or are) do the same? Thanks. Fellew Wikipedia editor, OkayKenG (talk) 18:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, 1987atomheartbrother. I suggest that you read the policy page Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, which describes a number of processes available to you, depending on the circumstances of the specific dispute. I hope that you will use these methods instead of being deterred from contributing. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:22, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

I lost my entire article from my sandbox. Can I recover it?

Hello there, I lost my entire article from my sandbox before I could hit publish to be reviewed. Can I recover it? Please, any help will be appreciated. Thanks!ArgieAtl19 (talk) 18:13, 8 June 2019 (UTC) ArgieAtl19

It's probably too late now, but if you still have your browser open, then using the "Back" button might just return you to the editing page so that you can save ("Publish") the article. This will not work if you have closed the window. Dbfirs 18:42, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Saroj_Gupta my first article

check this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Saroj_Gupta let me know that i going right or not — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amit15110003 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Nina Bal AFD

Hello, I have some questions and doubts; I checked this article and searched for Nina on google and yes she does have articles but after reading them they are 100% press release and biased toned. she has some Forbes contributor published articles (not reliable) so ShallI go for AFD? or not? --Siddharth 📨 19:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes. Though you say you have made some preliminary checking I'd advise you to read WP:BEFORE one more time. If you're still convinced the article should be deleted, then go for it. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:19, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with first edit please??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cranbrook_Academy_of_Art_alumni_and_faculty

Hello, I made an edit to this page last night, but this morning it was removed by someone named Joojay. In looking at the history of this site, it appears that every time someone tries to add a notable Cranbrook Academy of Art alum, Joojay removes it.

I am a neophyte so maybe I did it wrong, but could all of these people be wrong? Please advise. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamaRoxy (talk • contribs) 20:08, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

@DreamaRoxy: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm sorry your first edit did not go well; it can be discouraging, but it is good that you are here. Your edit was removed because you added the name of a person who does not yet have a Wikipedia article. The "list" types of articles are not meant to list every possible member of that list in existence, only those that have Wikipedia articles. If the person that you tried to add to the list merits a Wikipedia article according to the notability criteria for biographical articles, it should be created first before attempting to add that name to any relevant list articles. 331dot (talk) 20:22, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, DreamaRoxy. You tried to add Richard Kriegler to the list. The link is red because there is no Wikipedia biography of Kriegler. There is a strong consensus among experienced editors that the only entries in alumni lists should be people who already have Wikipedia biographies. Otherwise, these lists are overwhelmed with non-notable people and are of little encyclopedic value. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:30, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

please help me Regards, Deadlinedork. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadlinedork (talk • contribs) 03:35, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you Deadlinedork. That all makes sense. I understand that I need to make 10 edits before I can add a page. So I can't make a Kriegler page myself. I do believe he deserves a wikipage, so I will continue to make more edits elsewhere and if he still doesn't have a page at that point I will attempt it. But who determines and how do they determine who quailifies for a page? Thank you again. I am a longtime supporter of Wiki and its nice to finally jump into the sandbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamaRoxy (talk • contribs) 04:53, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello DreamaRoxy. Please read and study Your first article, and follow its excellent advice. Also study the General notability guideline. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Re: Updated Article

Dear Cassiopia, I have now renamed and updated the article on the "Cause For Joseph Immaculate" and its new name is "Joseph of Nazareth's Immaculate Conception". I have removed the content which had copyright issues and so made all necessary changes. However, I don't know how to get it to you so how do I do that? It is now in my Sandbox and it will be there until I can figure this out or you let me know what to do next. I would like this article to be published on Wikipedia but I don't know what to do next. Could you please help me out? Yours Sincerely. FJBrown. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FJBrown (talk • contribs) 21:55, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, FJBrown. The draft in question is User:FJBrown/sandbox/Joseph of Nazareth's Immaculate Conception. Your draft is not acceptable as an encylopedia article. It consists of your own original research, which is contrary to policy. It completely lacks references to reliable sources. It states that your religious beliefs are true in Wikipedia's voice. It violates the neutral point of view. Because immaculate conception is a widely held belief among Christians that applies to Mary, mother if Jesus, your idea that it also applies to Joseph is a fringe theory. Please read and study Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

I did find a selfpublished book on the topic, [1], it's not impossible that reliable sources may exist. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Moved to Draft:Joseph of Nazareth's immaculate conception and submitted to AfC. My expectation is it will not be approved because no references. David notMD (talk) 02:04, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

David notMD, I may be missing something here, but was it a good idea to submit it? Maybe FJBrown wanted to keep working on it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Gråbergs Gråa Sång - I was not the editor who moved it from FJBrown's Sandbox to a (unsubmitted) draft. All I did was state where it had gone. Soon after, an editor decided it had no potential as an article, and deleted the draft. David notMD (talk) 10:09, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Question

Hi I need help with something thats extreamly hard to explain, im not crazy i am very alert and stang unexplainable things have been happening to me in real life and on my laptop so much that i now know how to do things on a computer i never knew how to do before. I NEED SERIOUS HELP ONLY SERIOUS PPL WHO WILL TAKE THIS SERIOUS. THANK YOU — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sadiferrell1 (talk • contribs) 05:21, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Sadiferrell1 Teahouse is a place to ask questions about how to be a Wikipedia editor. I hope you have family, friends or others who can answer your needs. David notMD (talk) 10:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Barellor

Barellor need to invite to teahouse to being guest. Barellor (talk) 07:11, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Barellor welcome to the Teahouse. Your first few edits here suggest to me that you have already had experience of editing here before, and yet your question here doesn't quite make sense to me, nor explain what help you need. We are a friendly forum for assisting new editors. What help do you require? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:50, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Unconditional Surrender (Sculpture)

Hi!

I'm new here and I'd like to add some information, but wouldn't mind if some keen editor would like to do it instead! ;)

Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unconditional_Surrender_(sculpture) - Other locations

According to this article https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/education/d-day-75-iconic-d-day-statue-to-be-unveiled-at-historic-dockyard-1-8905799 ...

The European replica (of the US based original) has been touring Europe ... After leaving Rome the statue was housed at Mémorial de Caen Museum in France ... spending the last year in Belgium (Mémorial du Mardasson, Bastogne)

Its current location is: Portsmouth Historic Dockyard between HMS Victory and the Mary Rose Museum.

...as part of the city’s D-Day commemorations. ...where it will be based for the next 12 months, also marking the commemoration of VJ Day. ...unveiled by D-day veterans on Sunday 2nd June 2019 before they travel to Normandy the following day. "It will be statue’s first time in the UK." "We were keen for it to coincide with the 75th commemoration of D-Day which was so pivotal in bringing peace to the world."

Additionally, from the same article, "The statue Embracing Peace, (is) also known as Unconditional Surrender". This is verified on the sculptor (Seward Johnson)'s official website: "Portsmouth, UK: Embracing Peace on exhibition at the Portsmouth Historic Dockyard - a collection of 12 maritime museums. Unveiling ceremony is June 5" https://sewardjohnsonatelier.org/category/monumentals/

Maybe the title of the whole Wikipedia article needs changing to Embracing Peace (Unconditional Surrender).

I visited the statue in its present location on 15th May 2019 and have a lovely photo which could be included.

Many thanks,

Pauline — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaulinePO (talk • contribs) 07:43, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello PaulinePO and welcome to the Teahouse! Your source (The News (Portsmouth)) seems ok, so I say go ahead, but remember not to copypaste text from that article. See Help:Referencing for beginners for how to cite. About your image, see Upload Wizard. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:30, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I need an artist page

Please can a user help me create one — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.211.57.129 (talk • contribs)

Hello IP editor. You didn't say who the artist was. Firstly any person added to wikipedia must meet our Notability criteria before we can accept them. If they fail to meet them, any page is liable to be rejected. See WP:NARTIST for specific criteria relating to notable creative people. You might then like to try our interctive learning tutorial called The Wikipedia Adventure, and then visit Wikipedia:Your first article to learn how to create a new page about a notable subject. Be advised that creating a new page is actually the hardest task to perform here, so we always advise new editors to not rush in, but to learn how to edit existing articles first. That will help you avoid falling fouls of our many content and style requirements. We're always here to help you should you get stuck. Hoping this helps, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:58, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Apologies if I'm misunderstanding you, but I interpret your question as "I need a page on Wikipedia where I can tell the world about me". If that is indeed what you mean, then I am afraid that, like many people, you misunderstand what Wikipedia is. If Wikipedia has an article about you, it will not be your article, you will not have control over the contents, and indeed it should contain very little material that comes from you. It should be a summary of what has been published about you by people who have no connection with you (such as critics, journalists, academics). --ColinFine (talk) 11:38, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

How to translate and duplicate a Wikipedia page?

I would like to duplicate and translate a German-language Wikipedia page. Specifically, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleicher_Sch%C3%B6terich, for which an English-language equivalent is not available. I don't need translation help, just Wikipedia advice.

What is the easiest/best way to duplicate and translate a Wikipedia page? Does one provide a link back to the original foreign-language article? Are there other Wikipedia policies that I should be aware of when doing this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgJander (talk • contribs) 14:35, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

@GeorgJander: For guidelines, see Wikipedia:Translation#How to translate. Deor (talk) 15:29, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Review Process

Hello, I submitted an article entry, 1963 Freedom Ballot, a couple of weeks ago and I wanted to know if there's a way of speeding up the review process. --MalachiReschke (talk) 16:03, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

@MalachiReschke: I have just reviewed and accepted your draft, please could you take a look and add any relevant categories. Theroadislong (talk) 16:12, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

MalachiReschke, am I recalling correctly that this is a project for a class? --valereee (talk) 16:12, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, this is a class project. --MalachiReschke (talk) 16:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Very kind, Theroadislong! --valereee (talk) 16:15, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

what's your real name — Preceding unsigned comment added by DECHO1212 (talk • contribs) 16:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Heading and notes to a graph

Hi, anyone who could help me how to add a headline and bottom note to a graph?

Best //Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekh14psv (talk • contribs) 17:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)