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==U1Quattro and YBSOne saga==
==U1Quattro and YBSOne saga==
Sorry I didn't see your ping, but until Yoshida Shoji is done, I effectively cannot be pinged. Thanks for handling it. I actually chose to go with [[User_talk:El_C#IBAN_violation|no action]], since the edit in question is from February (they both edit the same articles, so there's bound to be some overlap), but I suppose it was, technically, a violation. Oh well. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 19:09, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Sorry I didn't see your ping, but until Yoshida Shoji is done, I effectively cannot be pinged. Thanks for handling it. I actually chose to go with [[User_talk:El_C#IBAN_violation|no action]], since the edit in question is from February (they both edit the same articles, so there's bound to be some overlap), but I suppose it was, technically, a violation. Oh well. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 19:09, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== Some baklava for you! ==

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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Thanks for your help in letting me know how to state my case in enforcement. I sincerely appreciate it. And who doesn't like baklava?

But I urge you to take a look at the Democratic Socialists of America website before concluding that my edit, stating that the organization has a long-term goal of ending capitalism, was somehow a falsehood or smear. Thanks. [[User:JohnTopShelf|JohnTopShelf]] ([[User talk:JohnTopShelf|talk]]) 20:04, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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Note to self

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Wikimania 2020 Bangkok

Hi Klomp (that was actually the family name of my girlfriend when I was living in Amsterdam inn 1967). I won't be going to Stockholm most unfortunately, because I really can't afford $3,000 just for 5 days in the far north of Europe. I'll leave that trip to the Europeans and the 70-strong WMF junket. But next year Wikimania is right on my doorstep. I hope you will be able to come. I will be making absolutely sure that my friends who are able to come will have a great time. Regards, Chris. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:41, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Whoa. Oh dear, I'd LOVE to go--but I don't see it happening. On the one hand I'm not important enough to the WMF, I'm sure--I can't even get Jimbo Wales to respond to a ping. Actually, I've been trying for a dozen years. On the other, I doubt that I could swing it where I can argue to my employer they should pay for such a trip. But who know--I didn't even know, so thanks for telling me, and maybe it might happen. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:23, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    If Katherine can travel to all those places she mentioned on her Talk page, I don't see why you can't. She's working on the budget now, isn't she? Make sure you get at least business class on the flight, first class on the hotel, all meals, and of course WP:ANI (Administrative noticeboard incidentals).--Bbb23 (talk) 17:29, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This is the way it works at Wikimania, Bbb23: Back in 2012 in D.C. after the welcome party at the Library of Congress, the bus drove past the door of the ramshackle backpacker hostel were were forced to stay in (12-man rooms with bunk beds and a toilet down the corridor and a dysfunctional elevator), the WMF refused to let it stop, and it dropped us 14 blocks away at the WMF's luxury hotel. We had to walk back, and with 2m tall Mike Peel striding out in front, with the arthritis in my knees it was agony keeping up. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 20:20, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Good thing I never go.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:27, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Things change, it seems. This report from someone who attended both the 2012 D.C. Wikimania and the 2015 Mexico City Wikimania, had as one of their concerns, the issue that housing 2015 scholarship attendees in the Hilton was perhaps more expensive than would be appropriate. Presumably the toilet was closer and the elevators more amenable. MPS1992 (talk) 22:33, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hiltons have neither toilets nor elevators. They do, however, have tacky decor.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:35, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We all know it's only the Ritz for you, Bbb. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:46, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I spent one night in that hostel, Kudpung, one single night. I'm too old for that shit. Drmies (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your closure of the AN thread

At Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Abusive_behavior_and_controversial_edits_by_an_IP. While this started as my question on the applicability of talk page guidelines, I have grown increasingly concerned about Bbb23's behavior (i.e. lack of response to the question I and other have raised), and his refusal to discuss this on his talk page ([1]). I am sure acted 'to protect the project', but there are limits to such protection, particularly given the potential for admin abuse of power. I would not be pursuing this IF Bbb23 did not use the veiled thread 'this is an administrative action'. But he did. This all could have ended if Bbb23 said 'ok, I made a mistake, won't do it again', with a simple 'sorry' being nice but not necessary (my ego will survive without it). But given Bbb23 refusal to address this issue outside saying that Cirt socket, it seems to me that they have not demonstrated any remorse, or anything to demonstrate they made a mistake. This is worrisome. Admin abuse, where admins believe they are near perfect, have no need to explain themselves or apologize is a problem on Wikipedia. As an OP, I don't believe this issue is closed until Bbb23 explains themselves, apologizes, OR the community decided it is not necessary. Your closure of this thread, as a fellow admin, is sending a wrong message - that admins are beyond critique, and if critiqued, well, such threads will be closed by their fellow admin, no need for them to be stressed out and subject to such a terrifying thing as critique... Again, I am not seeking anything else but a simple statement from Bbb23 that they made a mistake and they won't do it again. If you are not going to reopen that thread, and in light of Bbb23 removing my posts from their talk pages, I'd appreciate if you would tell me which forum is applicable to pursue this matter further. Because while this started as a small matter, Bbb23 refusal to back down even a little bit suggest to me this may need to be investigated further, because this community does not need admins who are unwilling to accept that they can make an occasional errors. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:49, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Piotrus, I don't believe this is admin abuse (and the thread didn't conclude it was); in my view, the community has spoken. Forcing an apology from someone is rarely productive, and Bbb obviously doesn't think he did anything wrong. In the end, all this involves two things, as far as I can tell: talk page guidelines and how to handle edits by socks. (BTW, I fully understand that there was some dismay about the account not having been blocked yet, or marked as a sock. I'm glad that was handled.) Personally, I think we shouldn't overlegislate, but one can imagine some guidance on the TPG would be helpful. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have to say I am disappointed that you don't see how serious this is (as a symptom of a wider problem, the incident itself is very minor, of course). There are some people within the community who think that admins are "holy cows" and above criticism by peons, i.e. non-admins. This incident seems to me an example reinforcing such a belief. Invoking an admin status is a big deal. Not willing to apologize is not a sign of being a friendly mop'n'bucket wielder. Refusing to comment in a discussion where one behavior is disputed is likewise a bad sign, and a sadly justified attitude that 'non-admin criticism' is below admin's dignity to even reply, and surely it will be handled by other fellow admins who will just close this as no-action. Such attitude should not be ignored by other admins, but it almost always is. This is not how a healthy community should operate, with cliques protecting or turning a blind eye to their fellow mistakes. But, of course, I am talking about ideal world. In the real world, iron rule of oligarchy holds, and Wikipedia is not immune to it. I am not surprised that admins will protect their fellows, and try to brush aside their faults as minor things not worth pursuing (sure... just after years of such attitude, we end up at ArbComs or such). I am, however, disappointed, by the remainder that Wikipedia admins are, after all, imperfect, just like everyone else. You'd think after all those years I'd leave all my idealism behind, and got used to such corruption in the world, real of online, eh? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:10, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Contributions/Stupid_Rules

You might want to take another look at this. Besides [2] this, basically all their contribs are pursuing this fool vendetta from Talk:Romford. Pinkbeast (talk) 14:02, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I don't see much different in the (poor) level of contributions between the talk page jeering by MickGriff (talk · contribs) and the edit summarries of the other account. My personal view is that Wikipedia would be better off without both of them. 86.29.117.62 (talk · contribs) geolocates to the next town along. 31.127.146.196 (talk · contribs) is plainly from the edit summaries MickGriff logged out. They both do nothing else and neither presents the sort of case that Wikipedia needs. Uncle G (talk) 09:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe Wiki would be better off publishing the fact that Romford is in Essex instead of incorrectly showing Romford as London. As for the sort of case that Wiki needs I would think up to date government and NHS websites stating Romford is in Essex is what Wiki needs but no Wiki via people with no connection to Romford are allowed to impose their fakery and have Romford showing as London. Reminiscent of the old Soviet Union. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MickGriff (talk • contribs) 09:03, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

Hello, Drmies. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Barkeep49 (talk) 16:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deep state in the United States

You feel like taking a look at this? Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:25, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ali Eisami

On 5 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ali Eisami, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ali Eisami (pictured), a Kanuri man, dictated his memoirs of his captivity to German missionary and linguist Sigismund Koelle, and helped him produce a Kanuri grammar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ali Eisami. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Ali Eisami), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 5 July 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Franz Kafka

Thank you for another good one. Slave memories, banned memories, admonished memories (short version, + hope is precious) ... thanks from cabal of the outcast. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Did you ever add Adriaan de Bruin and the other to the stats? Or do I have to do that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1 the Road

On 6 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1 the Road, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an artificial intelligence wrote a novel in the spirit of Jack Kerouac's On the Road? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1 the Road. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 1 the Road), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Long-standing errors

After over a decade and a half finally someone — me! — has read a book. I've related the unfortunate truth that I found out at AFD. Alas, I have things to do. Lurkers here at Doktoro's talk page might relish the challenge of reading books, and pick up where I left off. You'll discover that Aquapasto is a name of one company's product, for starters, and we probably could do with using the generic name for the stuff. Uncle G (talk) 13:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

AfD Central

Pinging User:MaskedSinger and User:William2001: please look at this again: the AfDs, the associated pages, the comments here by Uncle G, etc. But for y'all's delete votes I could simply close them and be done with it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:29, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I fail to see what the issue is. The page doesn't have a single source or reference. In current form, it must be deleted or possibly redirected. If one is so vested that it stay, build up the page to reflect its importance, significance and notability. If one line in 15 years is the best that can be done. QED. Can I just say that the person who created this page was a known sock and all 3 pages cited above were ALL created by the same editor. MaskedSinger (talk) 15:21, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Which is why, MaskedSinger, you should read the entire account. I hate to say it but you are wrong: please read Wikipedia:Deletion is not cleanup. What matters not is what condition the article is in; what matters is whether the topic is notable in its own right. You are, essentially, arguing a. it was by a sock (but that's not a valid reason for deletion) and b. it's not a good article (which is also not a reason for deletion). Drmies (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No Drmies. I'm saying it's unsourced which means there's no justification for the one line. I wasn't arguing it was a sock - I added that as after the fact point. MaskedSinger (talk) 17:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is that you're saying "it's unsourced", and that is not a valid reason for deletion. "There are no sources" is a better reason, if indeed there are no sources. But for Surautomatism there are sources, as Spinningspark demonstrated, and for Sifflage/Soufflage a solution has now been found. For Aquapasto, Watercolor#Transparency might be a good target for a redirect. Drmies (talk) 17:15, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's unsourced and there are no sources are the same thing. If you think it should stay at the very least put a tag on it CAT:UNREF WP:ALS MaskedSinger (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MaskedSinger: I think what Drmies meant by saying "there are no sources" is that "a source cannot be found." William2001(talk) 18:11, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Drmies: Hello. What do you mean by "simply close them?" Close them as keep or delete? Are you telling us to reconsider our delete !votes? Just confused about what message you and Uncle G are trying to get across. Thanks. William2001(talk) 18:17, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've no idea what this conversation is about, but the key point for me in the AFD I'm involved in is that unsourced does not mean unsourceable. To continue to call for deletion after valid sources have been brought to your attention on the grounds that those sources have not (yet) been put in the article is downright disruptive. As Drmies said, AFD is not cleanup. SpinningSpark 19:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • In that case, Spinningspark, I think you know very well what's doing on, and thank you for your comments in the AfD. MaskedSinger, "it's unsourced" is a statement about the article; "there are no sources" is a statement about the reality of existing sources. The first is not a reason for deletion; only the second is. User:William2001, I don't see what confusion there could be. We have three articles at AfD, and for all of them you two voted "delete". One of them has been shown to be on a notable subject; the two others are valid search terms that are now redirects. Yes, I want to close them, keeping one as an article and keeping the titles as redirects for the two others. Yes I am asking you do reconsider your delete votes so that I can close them early--otherwise they're just going to be open for another couple of days. Uncle G and I are old experienced seasoned enough to smell where these AfDs will be going... Drmies (talk) 22:07, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Drmies:  Done I did in fact vote redirect for one of them, which I think you are fine with, and for the two in which I voted delete, I changed them, one to redirect and the other to keep. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. William2001(talk) 17:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Buckets and pigeons

This German bucket is from New Gallifrey, Doktoro, which we are told is at the end of the universe. I think that that might be a conflation with New Gallifrey, perhaps.

I don't know what seasoning Doktoro is covered in that makes xem smell, but all that I am asking is that people check out what is said in books so that we have what is right rather than what User:Daniel C. Boyer gave us. If pressed on the subject, I would argue that a prophylactic redirect at soufflage is the best course of action, because people are going to read these books that plagiarized Wikipedia and it is best that they get pointed to the right place. Maybe I am wrong about how much there is on the subject, but both the nominator and another person seem happy for a redirect to the section in the larger article. As for the others: please read sources and find out what is correct. I've been slightly busy with the ₹4,000 crore (equivalent to ₹50 billion or A$900 million in 2023) scandal that is threatening to rock the Karnataka government. I've even had to hand over the German buckets at User talk:Hans Adler#Respite, although it seems that the pigeons came home to roost there based upon my past history.

  • Rajendran, S. (2019-07-07). "Resignation of legislators spells big trouble for coalition government in Karnataka". The Hindu. {{cite news}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

Uncle G (talk) 23:41, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Totally impertinent aside. Every time I see this thread, I think of Little Adolf (the pigeon) from The Producers. giving a tiny little pigeon salute.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:46, 8 July 2019 (UTC))[reply]
The June 12 version is about the BPC. And why anyone should try to delete so wondrous an article is beyond me.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I never cared for pigeons; they signified Old Holland for me--old men training pigeons on rooftops. Drmies (talk) 14:52, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
With the cameras we have these days, we could get an army of hummingbirds to replace the paparazzi. Drmies (talk) 14:54, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I now get to truthfully say that I have just dumped a bucketload of pigeon crap on User talk:Hans Adler. Uncle G (talk) 18:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, as I live in Pinellas County, I can assure you that St. Petersburg, Florida is the end of the universe. Which end I'm not at liberty to say.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hänschen klein gets all the bad luck.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Did someone mention gluck?? ["The Bird Of The Wilderness" available on YouTube] Martinevans123 (talk) 20:24, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks more like Unglück. Though I should not cluck about it.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 09:08, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Drmies I just Reverted it since an experienced editor put it back? Since the Nazi did persecute Clergy Just a Example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priest_Barracks_of_Dachau_Concentration_Camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims#Roman_Catholics Jack90s15 (talk) 00:47, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK but Thanks El_C for still wanting to help!Jack90s15 (talk) 01:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jack90s15, if you have specific questions you could drop them on my talk page. Some very nice people stop by here occasionally, and they might could help you out. Drmies (talk) 01:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks will do!!! Drmies

Pamela Geller

I intended to go through and restore edits we can agree on, one by one. And I started to do this. Most of these edits can not be undone on a single basis. What else could I do? Jason from nyc (talk) 14:51, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • You can copy and paste the original text and restore that, leaving an edit summary that addresses the original edit summary. Drmies (talk) 14:53, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I started that but couldn't keep track of which edit was where. I had several screens open but it become overwhelming. I only requested that we discuss the edits in the talk page and I do agree with some. I appreciate bold changes but that prompts a revert for discussion. As new edits were continually added, I was hit with an "edit conflict" and had to start over again. I'd appreciate it if we could do this in an orderly manner instead of edit-warring on the article's page. Is that asking too much?
    • Would you consider reverting back before the page is frozen by an administrator? Jason from nyc (talk) 14:58, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm sorry, but that doesn't sound like a Snoogans or Drmies problem. These edits weren't rapid-fire, not all the time, and you have plenty of opportunity now to discuss them on the talk page. And glancing over them, I see solid sourcing, and edit summaries, and neutral language, so I don't see why any administrator would lock it--I certainly wouldn't. Remember, you are both editing from registered accounts, so any protection would have to be full protection, which is pretty draconian (I doubt I've done that more than a dozen times in my career), and it would only come after lengthy edit warring. For now, what we have is a few dozen apparently constructive edits undone by one single editor in one single revert--I'm sure most admins would agree that the ball is in your court, and that there is little on Snoogans's side that can be called disruptive. Drmies (talk) 15:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • I believe it has had full protection in the past. The vast number of changes are too much for me to review and handle. I've worked on controversial news-breaking stories with no problem. This is too much and more are coming. As I said I do agree with some, perhaps most with some tweaks. I'll have to leave it to other editors. Thanks for your consideration. Jason from nyc (talk) 15:21, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

check user

I think the check user bit would help me sift unblock requests, but there's no way to request it and I'm afraid of rejection. Is their anything I should know? Thanks  Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:10, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are you saying you want to be a checkuser or you want to request a check on certain unblock requests?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You can request it or you can take the easy route, like I did: run for ArbCom! And then you can run CU on me, and see I’m at Starbucks. Damn! I should be on their free WiFi! Drmies (talk) 21:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, you cannot request CU permissions from ArbCom. At various intervals, ArbCom invites self-nominations. When they do it next, you could apply. In the meantime, though, you can block Drmies for being at Starbucks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:44, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
From memory, Starbucks is okay, only Dunkin' Donuts is against policy, and Country Style if you're on this side of the 49th (Dunkin' in Quebec is okay), but I haven't had access to checkuser for a couple months now and things might have changed. As for the question: the process is Arbcom-driven and as I recall they appoint oversighters and checkusers (important: it's not an election) once a year in about October, just before the Arbcom elections get going, and they announce they're seeking applicants about a month in advance. They also do their own recruitment, and if you're interested it probably doesn't hurt to let the arbs know. Maybe closer to the time, though, they're pretty busy with, er, stuff, right now. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 00:01, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"do their own recruitment" What do you base that on?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:05, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I remember we put up some notification on the Arb noticeboard or something--Keilana, am I dreaming? Drmies (talk) 00:32, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, I remember a recruitment officer visiting our junior high school, making CU seem like a grand adventure where you travel the world, meet interesting people ... and indef them. Of course it was all very sexist back then and girls weren't really invited. Times have changed, I guess, what with all this soccer rigamarole. Softlavender (talk) 00:39, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Re: "do their own recruitment": maybe I've got the facts wrong on that. I recall being asked if I was interested, rather than expressing interest on my own. Doesn't really matter, though. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks y'all, though I won't comment on what I think Starbucks coffee tastes like. Yes, I know the Cu's are busy, and if I could just check some of these sock block appealers myself, it would lessen their load.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 01:54, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Banayoti

A controversial article receiving far too much attention. User:FRANCISBONNICI has been repeatedly attempting to whitewash the article. I have reverted him (more than I should but I'm considering it quasi-vandalism), but he keeps doing it. I warned him he'd be blocked if he persisted, but that's not stopping him, and, much as I think he deserves to be blocked, I don't feel comfortable doing so. In addition to the reverts, I've also done some editing of the article, so I'm WP:INVOLVED. If you could at least keep an eye on the article, that would be helpful.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:42, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone stepping into this should also see:

and the OTRS ticket (given on the article's talk page). Uncle G (talk) 09:01, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May also be worth noting that the subject of the article has recently been in (repeated, indeed, persistent) contact with OTRS demanding that the article be deleted... remarkable coincidence that FRANCISBONNICI showed up only a couple of days later to try and remove all the bits that Mr Banayoti objected to. Yunshui 雲水 14:37, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, yes. BTW I don't have OTRS glasses, and I aim to keep it that way--but thank you to all the folks who do. Drmies (talk) 14:44, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

Doktoro, being hep and with-it, drinks coffee at Starbucks. Although back in Gallifrey coffee houses, like this one at 37 Lauriergracht, have a rather different façade. Doktoro will exhibit youth cred by explaining how 37 Lauriergracht was in an episode of Max Headroom.
~ nice to meet you ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 14:22, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Let me add that I once was part owner of a Xantia.

By the way: ISBN 0198158831 p.223 tells me that the coffee house at 37 Lauriergracht has as famous an address as 221b Baker Street. I think that I have that right. This popular culture stuff from television is Doktoro's area. In the real world, 221b Baker Street was demolished years ago, and the scriptwriter for Doktoro's pop culture couldn't even get the name of The Bailey right. I suspect that xe looked up The Bailey in Pommiepedia when writing. Uncle G (talk) 19:38, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • DYK I used to live on the Egelantiersgracht? I get weak when I think of that. Drmies (talk) 22:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well your past is just a fiction designed to account for the discrepancy between your state of mind and your user talk page.

      — Hold on! This is the wrong series. We'll be pulling in that Zaphod Gearbox person if we are not careful.

      Doktoro, your childhood memories are entirely real and not in any way the product of a Chameleon Arch.

      So … when you swam past 37 Lauriergracht on your way to skool, did you look up? Was there a blue plaque on the wall, perchance? To commemorate the presence there of a man who had not learned to wet shave.

      Uncle G (talk) 00:13, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

      • When I lived on the Egelantiersgracht I was busy dropping out of college. I didn't grow up in Amsterdam, and when I attended the Vrije Universiteit I mostly lived on Uilenstede, close to Amstelveen. So, that's the house of the trader in Max Havelaar--I successfully avoided that in all my Dutch classes. I did read another classic, but that involved another street, the Sarphatistraat: "Behalve den man die de Sarphatistraat de mooiste plek van Europa vond, heb ik nooit een wonderlijker kerel gekend dan den uitvreter", and if you're not laughing as you read this you probably don't read Dutch. It's hilarious. The building seems to be 1930s, and it looks like there's apartments and a real estate agent? I'll ask my buddy to drive by. I didn't see a sign on the more recent picture. But I think this year there are some events commemorating (the end of?) Dutch slavery, so maybe the exploited workers in Multatuli will be paid lip service too... Drmies (talk) 00:23, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'm going to enjoy your page ~ reminds me of other editors here on wiki ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 23:03, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dreamland Bar-B-Que ~ Thanks a lot ~mitch~ (talk) 22:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Doktoro needs to carefully check the Foreign in this AFC submission. This is all pop culture and I have no idea what I am writing here. I am citing Michelin, for goodness' sake! Uncle G (talk) 10:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For your youth cred, Doktoro, I'll let you put in the happening and rad part about the Jongensweeshuis run by some brothers. Uncle G (talk) 11:05, 10 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Lauriergracht (literally "Laurel Canal"[1]) is one of the canals of Amsterdam.

Lauriergracht numbers 1 to 9, an 1895 photograph from the George Hendrik Breitner collection[2]

It was painted and photographed by George Hendrik Breitner who set up a studio on the canal, at number 8, in 1893 and stayed there until 1898.[3][4] His De Lauriergracht bij de Tweede Laurierdwarsstraat (painted in 1917–1918) is in the Rijksmuseum.[5] Prints of his paintings of Lauriergracht 1-15 are in the Stedelijk Museum.[6]

At the end of the 17th century, the Lauriergracht had been the residence of several artists and their relatives.[7]

Karel du Jardin's aunt Jaqueline lived there in 1661.[8]

Govaert Flinck moved to the Lauriergracht in 1644, where his nephew Dirck already lived, and lived there until his death.[9] He bought two adjacent houses, numbers 76 and 78.[10] He initially worked at, and later took over from Rembrandt the management of, Hendrick Uylenburgh's workshop that was located on the canal.[11]

One of the famous residents of the Lauriergracht is fictional, Batavus Droogstoppel, an unreliable narrator in Max Havelaar who is introduced in the first line of the book "Ich bin Makler in Kaffee und wohne Lauriergracht Nr. 37" ("I am a coffee maker and I live at Number 37 Lauriergracht") which the character repeats over and over.[12][13]

Numbers 130 and 132 used to be a Christian Reformed Church; originally opened on 1900-11-14 and reopened on 1927-12-21 after an extension, the church was finally closed on 1985-11-14 and turned into apartments.[14] The Evangelical Lutheran Church built an orphanage at numbers 112–118 in 1757.[15]

References

Cross-references

  1. ^ Michelin 2001, p. 128.
  2. ^ Beeldbank 2019a.
  3. ^ Bothe 1898, p. 32.
  4. ^ Pols 1966, p. 129.
  5. ^ Rijksmuseum 2019a.
  6. ^ Beeldbank 2019b.
  7. ^ Nguyen 1992, p. 36.
  8. ^ Kilian 2007, p. 13.
  9. ^ Kok 2016, p. 49.
  10. ^ Grape-Albers 1997, p. 84.
  11. ^ Dickey 2013, p. 140.
  12. ^ Nieuwenhuys 1982, pp. 88–89.
  13. ^ Niekerk 2000, p. 175.
  14. ^ RD 1985.
  15. ^ Meiners 1988, p. 77.

Sources

Further reading

  • Graves, W.J. (1985). De Lauriergrachtkerk in Amsterdam, 1900 - 14 november - 1985. Christelijke Gereformeerde Kerk. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • Lammertse, Friso; van der Veen, Jaap (2006). "The House on Lauriergracht". Uylenburgh & son: art and commerce from Rembrandt to De Lairesse, 1625–1675. The Oliver Millar Collection. Waanders Publishers. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • van Heel, S. A. C. Dudok (1982). "Het "schilderhuys" van Govert Flinck en de kunsthandel van Uylenburgh aan de Lauriergracht te Amsterdam". Jaarboek Amstelodamum. 74. J. H. de Bussy: 70–90. {{cite journal}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • van Heijst, Annelies (2002). "Heren in vereniging: stand en liefdadigheid". Liefdewerk: een herwaardering van de caritas bij de Arme Zusters van het Goddelijk Kind, sinds 1852. Uitgeverij Verloren. p. 70. ISBN 9789065507419. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
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U1Quattro and YBSOne saga

Sorry I didn't see your ping, but until Yoshida Shoji is done, I effectively cannot be pinged. Thanks for handling it. I actually chose to go with no action, since the edit in question is from February (they both edit the same articles, so there's bound to be some overlap), but I suppose it was, technically, a violation. Oh well. El_C 19:09, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for your help in letting me know how to state my case in enforcement. I sincerely appreciate it. And who doesn't like baklava?

But I urge you to take a look at the Democratic Socialists of America website before concluding that my edit, stating that the organization has a long-term goal of ending capitalism, was somehow a falsehood or smear. Thanks. JohnTopShelf (talk) 20:04, 12 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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