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No, you can visibly see that she is older in this one and it is a high resolution photo of her. It is a better representation of what she really looks like. Beatrix TBS (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a way to fade the people in the background, like its' done in the current image being used? The guy standing next to her, is a distraction. GoodDay (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's a representation of her frailty in old age. It isn't a better representation overall at all and surely cannot be used to substitute the 2015 image. She has not aged dramatically since 2015. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk·contribs·email) 05:29, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am quite certain there is, the current image has been blurred, I will need to look it up. Beatrix TBS (talk) 21:12, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
After some time I believe I have altered the image into a more acceptable version to use as the infobox image: Beatrix TBS (talk) 22:12, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Awful image, that has caught her whilst hunched over. Also, she's using a walking stick in it, which was a temporary measure whilst she was recovering from a back problem. More recently she's been pictured without it. Keep the current one, there's nothing wrong with it. --Jkaharper (talk) 00:46, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
She has had a SLIGHT hunch for many years, it is a high resolution image that hasn't edited her appearance whereas the current one has changed her complexion and is 6 years old. Furthermore, if a high quality image that is years more recent it should be used, it is a fine photo and HM is noticeably thinner. Also, The Queen is 95 years old, using an image of her using a walking stick isn't a shameful thing or something she'd be embarrassed about and there should be no problem created because of it. The image should be a high quality, high resolution and recent as possible image, not a filtered 'insta-worthy' picture. Beatrix TBS (talk) 21:26, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Re: in the current image there is a skin filter making her complexion darker and it is a high resolution image that hasn't edited her appearance whereas the current one has changed her complexion
You're mistaken, Beatrix. As was explained in detail many talk page discussions ago, the original photograph was highly oversaturated and somewhat underexposed (a common technique when creating a digital negative in order to maximize data). The current infobox image has been properly developed from that original in order to normalize the saturation, increase the exposure and reduce noise. It took a while but I think that most editors eventually understood that she really is wearing a lot of foundation on her face, with very little if any on her neck. It is not the result of digitally tampering with her complexion. As for choosing a new image, I'm open to suggestions but the image above isn't very suitable IMO. nagualdesign22:02, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus to change infobox image.
Could we get opinions of changing the image of HM in the infobox, providing it is a recent image of high resolution and quality? Please state if you Oppose or Agree and your reasons why, so the question can be put to rest, whether that be keeping the current image or changing the image. Beatrix TBS (talk) 21:32, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you could come up with a good 2022-quality image, as this is her Platinum Jubilee year? That would be helpful. She has indeed (in appearance) aged quite a bit, since 2015. GoodDay (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There will more than likely be an official portrait or images released for her Jubilee on the 6th of February, just like there was on her Sapphire Jubilee. Beatrix TBS (talk) 21:57, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are usually crown copyrighted images or open UK government copyright images that are free to use for the public as long as it is not being used to earn money, such as selling products with images of HM on it. Beatrix TBS (talk) 23:29, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You have completely misunderstood the policy. If an image cannot be used commercially (i.e. cannot be used "to earn money") then it cannot be uploaded to commons and can only be uploaded to wikipedia if fair use applies, which it would never do for the Queen as there are thousands of free use images of her. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just because that image was not, does not change my point that a future OGL published image could replace the current one in the infobox TIGHazard (talk) 14:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Please provide reference(s) for this statement:
"However, support for the monarchy in the United Kingdom has been and remains consistently high, as does her personal popularity." 213.205.241.59 (talk) 08:32, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Add the length of reign to The Queen and previous monarchs
Should we add a template of the length of The Queen next to her Infobox:Reign (age in years and days) and the previous monarchs? I have seen the other languages of The Queen did this.
For example:
Reign: 6 February 1052- present (70 years x days)
I have been trying to add the following sentence to the article
The future queen was frequently exposed to her royal status even as a young child; issuing commands to parading soldiers, being honoured by passers by and inviting over friends using paper decorated with royal crowns.
Based on this source (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60201088), DrKay has repeatedly tried to remove it. They have claimed that the article is satirical. They don't seem to have any evidence for this claim and it seems fairly unlikely that the BBC would up a piece mocking the queen on its front page on the day of her platinum jubilee. That it's a poor source and that its trivial. From my point of view, a single sentence on the unique nature of her upbringing based on a BBC feature by a historian seems like a perfectly well sourced and proportionate thing to include in the early childhood section of her article.
To quote Lacey, "At Windsor Castle in the late 1920s, the young Princess Elizabeth (born 21 April 1926) was observed by the Royal Librarian Owen Morshead being wheeled out in her pram to watch the Changing of the Guard, when the officer commanding would march up to salute her smartly.
"Permission to march off, please, Ma'am?"
Sitting up in her pram, the princess would incline her bonneted head, according to Morshead, then wave her hand to give permission. At this tender age the little girl who already grasped the weightiness of her grandfather's national role as "Grandpa England", was clearly developing some inkling of her own as well...
What effect does it have on a three-year-old mind to discover that you only have to wave your hand and nod your head for the band to strike up and the entire platoon to march off at your behest - especially as further signals of your grandeur multiply?"
DrKay The statement I tried to add was "issuing commands to parading soldiers" not fighting men (which I said in my argument with you because I was irritated in the same way you have been irritable in this discussion). I'm perfectly willing to change "issuing commands" to "being addressed by" if that's what bothers you. The point is that its perfectly sensible to include one sentence on her unique childhood experiences in the section of the article on her early years. Llewee (talk) 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A baby waving in a pram is not issuing commands. The sentence adds nothing of value. Being present at a parade, being waved at by spectators and sending out invitations to a party are everyday occurrences of an entirely trivial nature. DrKay (talk) 15:16, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
DrKay, being saluted at parades and recognised whenever you go to park is clearly not a trivial part of most people's childhoods. I honestly don't see why you have such a problem with including one sentence on her unique childhood experiences in a section of the article entirely dedicated her experiences before she was ten. Llewee (talk) 15:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It adds nothing. She's a princess. She grew up in a palace with a governess. Her grandfathers were an emperor and earl. She was baptized by the Archbishop of Canterbury. No reader needs to be told that she had an extraordinary childhood. It is self-evident. If, on the other hand, we could be told that she grew up ignorant and racist because she was cocooned in a strange world that was very posh, very rich, very inbred and exclusively white, then I would be interested. DrKay (talk) 15:41, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Should "Windsor" be added as the Queen's last name?
In the opening sentence, the Queen's name is listed as "Elizabeth Alexandra Mary". Shouldn't the full name be Elizabeth Alexandra Mary Windsor, as that is listed as her full name further down in the article, and she is of the House of Windsor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leavit2stever (talk • contribs) 18:08, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We already had an RFC on that matter & the result was to exclude, PS - I've removed the name from the opening sentence-in-question. GoodDay (talk) 18:20, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The longstanding versions for the subsections-in-question, have been "Silver Jubilee" & "Golden Jubilee". I see no reason for making additions to either of them, other then possibly a push (on one of them) for a Canadian monarchist slant. As for the other, pointing out a new millennium isn't necessary. Honestly, must we go through (particularly the Canadian bit) these very old arguments, again? GoodDay (talk) 06:08, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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