If you have any questions, see the help pages or add a question to the village pump. Angela 19:32, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)
Changed figure for admission into confederation
It's good to have another Canadian editor on board.
You changed some of the figures for order of admission into confederation; however, had you checked Canadian Confederation, you would have seen that the numbers we are using includes the admittance/creation of the territories as well as the provinces. The previous numbers were correct. - Montréalais 21:03, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Oops, I jumped the gun on that: I went ahead and started editing before I really understood what was going on. Personally, I think the territories should be ranked after the provinces (as in the official order of precedence), but if strict chronological order is the convention here, so be it. Indefatigable 00:07, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
en_US to en_CA
Ugh, among your other tastes, apparently, is changing the language of Wiki pages from en_US to en_CA. "The trio was" grates on my ears like fingernails on a chalkboard, but I reckon you say the same about what I had there (Neil Peart, Alex Lifeson, Geddy Lee) originally. I'll also add that anyone who doesn't know how to pronounce "Peart" couldn't possibly be troubled to learn IPA. Also, don't we generally use SAMPA instead of IPA proper on the Wikipedia? Still, the price of purity is puritans, so keep it up...I think. :)
- Branden 00:56, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Point taken on the IPA spelling; I'll change it back to the ad hoc respelling. However, using plural verbs with singular collective nouns is usually considered a en-GB habit. Style guides from both Canada and the United States are nearly unanimous in insisting on singular verbs. -- Indefatigable 21:00, 8 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Either singular or plural can be used after group words (e.g., "Trio," "audience," "crowd"), but the meaning is different. If the singular is used, it means that all members of the group performed the action of the verb; if the plural is used, then some members of the group performed it.Cadillac19:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mount Indefatigable
The first thing I thought of when I first saw your user name a while back is Mount Indefatigable. Is that where you got the name from? Have you climbed it? It's an interesting scramble, especially the north to south traverse (I did it in 1994). RedWolf 06:51, Jan 1, 2004 (UTC)
My user name doesn't come from the mountain. In fact I didn't know that there was a Mount Indefatigable. I chose the handle simply because indefatigable is one of my favourite words. When I first came across it, I could immediately tell its meaning by breaking it into its roots, but I was puzzled at how to pronounce it (I'm usually good at guessing the pronunciation of a word I haven't seen before) until I finally got around to looking it up. Then I began to like it even more because of its unusual rhythm for an English word: two unstressed syllables, a stressed, and three more unstressed (in de FA ti ga ble). Then I ran into the word again in a list with other grand-sounding names of British warships built in the arms race preceding the First World War. HMS Indefatigable was sunk in the Battle of Jutland. When I read your message, I guessed that the mountain you climbed was named after the ship, and that it might be near other mountains named after ships from the battle. A quick Google shows I guessed right! Another reason I chose the handle is that I think (or wish) that it describes my character. And of course, who can forget "Camelot" from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "In war we're tough and able, / Quite in-dee-fat-ee-gay-bull; / Between our quests we sequin vests / And impersonate Clark Gable."
I may not be indefatigable, but I am Indefatigable 08:15, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Thanks on UK coat of arms
Tank you for your message about U.K. coat of arms. Could you write where can I find U.K. coat using by U.K. Government. Do you know polish wikipedia. There is Jonasz who live in Canada and write very much about the country. He has written about Alberta few days ago. Can you see U.K. coat of arms on polish wikipedia. What do you think about this version of coat.
Darius-poland-viki 21:18, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I can't read Polish, but the Polish Wikipedia's image of the arms seems to be a smaller version of the French Wikipedia's image. This drawing is a correct version of the arms, but drawn in an older style than the version on the English Wikipedia. Sorry, I don't know where there is an on-line image of the version without the helmet.--Indefatigable 22:29, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hi. I have started the WikiProject on Mountains — Wikipedia:WikiProject Mountains. Feel free to make comments on the proposed structure, etc. RedWolf 20:18, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)
Capitals
I note that you have amended various rank titles to smaller case and I wanted to seriously question whether or not this was correct in the given context. Example: Group Captain becomes group captain. Whilst this is correct in most uses, surely, if we are talking about a proper noun such as in a title or phrase such as "the rank of Group Captain" or "Group Captain Mark Smith" then capitals should be used. Additionally military protocol seems to back this up (the rank is abbreviated (GpCapt, not Gpcapt.) Dainamo 11:44, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
When a rank is used before a person's name, it has to be capitalized: Group Captain Mark Smith. Or when the rank is used to refer to a specific person, it can be capitalized: "Report it to the Group Captain." Because this is the way people most often see ranks used, they tend to overgeneralize this rule and overcapitalize. Ranks do not have capitals when not used as a replacement for a specific person's name. *"Mark Smith was a Group Captain." is wrong: it should be "Mark Smith was a group captain."
Because ranks can be used without capitals, Wikipedia articles about ranks should not have capitals in the article titles.
Capitals in abbreviations don't always tell you how the spelled-out phrase should be capitalized. For example, the symbol for megapascal is MPa.
Hi, I am in agreement with everything you have said above and your explanation. However the examples in the specific text are firstly in the page title, where capitals should be used and second in the text refering to other ranks. You are right in saying "Mark Smith is a group captain", but in in the phrase "immediately obove the rank of Wing Commander" wing commander becomes a proper noun in relation to "the rank of...." and therefore should be capitalised
Kind Regards
Dainamo 13:47, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I have done some browsing of newspaper style guides that are available on the Web, assuming that they would all support my position. However, I see now that some are on my side (e.g., the Montreal Gazette's section on capitals), and some are on your side (e.g., The Times' armed forces style guide). I won't object if you revert my changes.--Indefatigable 15:22, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Hi Indefatigable, I see the changes you have made to the List of communities in Alberta article. I appreciate your attention to detail and your effort to be grammatically correct and consistent. Based on my experience working with municipalities in Alberta, and the type of technical writing I do in my chosen profession, the style convention I use is obviously contrary to the style guide you use. Since I have no documentation on the acceptibility of the convention that I use, I accept the majority of your revisions.
However, I would prefer to revert the changes associated with the headline titles for Alberta's different municipality groups and municipality types. Using title case for these terms would be consistent with how Alberta Municipal Affairs (AMA) presents them on their website (see the Types Of Municipalities In Alberta web page, the 2009 Municipal Codes publication, the Municipal Locations web page and the Municipal Profiles web page). I think it would be appropriate to allow such since AMA is the primary source of all information in this article and the stewards of the various acts that established these municipal statuses. Thoughts?
Since you are well-versed on this topic, I would like to ask if you know anything about Wikipedia article and headline title style guides or conventions. First of all, do such style guides or conventions exist? If so, is there a link from which I can learn more? One of the things that puzzles me a tad is I notice that most articles I peruse have their article and headline titles in sentence case where I feel title case is more appropriate. For example, I feel that "List of Communities in Alberta" is a more appropriate way to title the "List of communities in Alberta" article. Is there any clarification you can provide so that I can better understand what I am observing?
Saw your user page and your interest in capitalization, punctuation, and apostrophes. What's the rule made by Charles? Is it Charles's rule, or Charles' rule? I've always followed Strunk and White's first rule so I like the former, but I like even more S&W's metarule: consistency. Vincent 00:20, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I did not see your Copps' -> Copps's edits, so it is an amazing coincidence. The chain runs like this.
1) You dared to edit the title of the Canadian Conspiracy article I started. I repressed the deep rage and anger that immediately surged up from deep within me and 2) investigated the fiend who performed the dastardly deed, then 3) saw that you were Canadian and promptly forgave all, hence 4) I also read of your wiki interests and grudgingly decided you were probably right but then 5) I noticed the bit concerning apostrophes and finally 6) I asked you your preferences about apostrophe S to avoid feeling as I did in 1).
And to add to coincidences, I'm also interested in Canadian railways. I just finished Pierre Berton's The National Dream and The Last Spike, and I worked for the CPR on a track maintenance gang during the summer of 1988. The highlight for me was working through Rogers Pass.
I happened to notice this discussion of apostrophes. If you guys don't mind a comment from a non-Canadian interloper, you might be interested to know that I raised the point a while back. You can read several users' opinions at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 6#Making possessives. JamesMLane 11:54, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Looks like I'm late to the discussion but it's still not clear to me what the rules are, here. Your recent edits to Southwest Island, Nova Scotia, for example, removed an apostrophe from a the nautical chart reference name. I am looking at a copy of the reference, and its got an apostrophe. So I think on the one hand you've contradicted a direct government source. Secondly, I think it adds ambiguity -- was it one St. Margaret after which the bay was named, or many? Without the apostrophe, you can't tell. I'm willing to be educated on this (hopefully indicated by the question on this talk page but at the moment I'm not thrilled by the removal? Can you help? B.S. Lawrence (talk) 17:27, 24 March 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Hi. Just a heads up that I changed the 120 mi (190 km) rounding-off in your edit back to 193 km. Some of the distances in the articles are approximations, but in this case, the 120 mi is an exact value, so the more accurate conversion is appropriate. :) -- Decumanus 05:41, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Help
Hi. I'm a relatively new user to Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could help me with something. (I've randomly picked your name off the list of "Most Active Users.") Last week I came across an article called Holomovement that was (and still is) absolutely horrible. It is being maintained by a user, togo who, as far as I can tell, is crazy. I took it upon myself to try to fix this situation and have taken several steps in that direction. I did some provisional research of my own and wrote a new article on the subject to redirect to. but togo won't cooperate with this redirect. i put in a request for comment, as well, but so far only one person (a friend of mine that i basically had to armtwist into it) has said anything. togo was unmoved by his comments. it just seems that this is taking much longer to deal with than it should. i was wondering if you could help me speed it up? –Floorsheim 08:34, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Which way round? (union flag)
Thanks Indefatigable. Thinking about is carefully I have to say that rahter than "upside down" the incorrect use of the flag is "back-to-front". And the article should refer to flying the flag the "correct way round" rather than the "corrrect way up". D'ya know what I mean?? Dainamo 15:05, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Well, I'm not a military man, but from what I have learned about military organization, (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing), formations and units are not the same thing. As I understand it, units are the basic building blocks, and formations are formed out them or out of other formations. The distinction appears to be important to military folks. However, as I said, I'm not an expert in the matter, so if I'm way off base, I could be persuaded to consolidate the two into one category.--Indefatigable 02:12, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Personally, I'd be happy with one category containing all military "things containing people", be they "units" or "formations", but that's just my preference. If you like, we could move this discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Military and try and get some consensus from other interested parties (assuming there are any). Geoff/Gsl 04:31, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I'm of the same understanding as Indefatigable - a unit has a UIC (Unit Identification Code) while a formation doesn't (because it comprises units or other formations?). Units and formations are different things. --BCRCornet 03:01, 2004 Nov 25 (UTC)
Canadian Government Copyright
I noticed that you just listed a couple of articles on Wikipedia:Copyright Problems that cite a Canadian government website as a source. There is a discussion at User_talk:SD6-Agent regarding using material from Government of Canada websites in Wikipedia. If you feel you can add something, I would be interested in your comments. Thanks Al guy 03:50, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
Canadian Red Ensign
I am ArmChairVexillologistDon,
I am a hobbiest in Heraldy, and Vexillology,
I am very well read on those subjects.
Yesterday I noted a slanderous reference, linking the Canadian Red Ensign to Neo-Facists groups. I did not appreciate the reference, not one little bit. I posted some information in that regard. Specifically a web-site link to the Great Canadian Flag Debate. The Canadian Government uncharacteristically saw fit to keep an accurate archive, detailing those important events.
At any rate, you decided to remove my "contribution". However you decided to leave the "disputed" reference linking the Canadian Red Ensign to the Neo-Facists groups. I was not pleased that you choose to remove my "contribution", and then decided that the Neo-Facist comment could stay.
I decided then, if my comments were to go, then the Neo-Facist comments were to go as well. I thus have deleted them.
I don't usually get involved in things such as this, but Heraldy and Vexillology are two of my dearest passions. So, my comments are gone fine, but why was the Neo-Facist comment left by you?
ArmChairVexillologistDon
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I expect the picture below will be accepted as proofAndyL 04:51, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Austrian (Austro-Hungarian), and German Flags are the most varied in the World. If you KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT FLAGS (which you obviously do not) you would know that some block-head waving a Flag does NOT make it theirs.
I am prepared to continue this "debate/deleting" of the Red Ensign racist-group linking, AD-NAUSEAM, AD-INFINITUM.
ArmChairVexillologistDon
Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
OR
Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)
Vieux Montréal buildings of the regime français
I tried placing this in the discussion page of Montreal but the system rejected it: The page was too long. Yes, the Vieux-Montreal borough is made up mostly of 19th and early 20th century buildings but it also has some 18th century buildings like the Chateau de Ramezay, right in front of city hall, and even a 17th century one, the Vieux séminaire (of the Sulpicians) right next to Notre Dame basilica. --AlainV 03:15, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Please do not remove the country of birth in biographies as you did in Yves Michaud. Thank you. JillandJack 15:44, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Royal Hamilton Light Infantry pages merged
Two pages were started within one day of each other, both on the RHLI and both with good information and links. The better one, The Royal Hamilton Light Infantry (Wentworth Regiment), uses the full formal name of the regiment. Mine was under the shorter name and is now a redirect.
Although I was aware of the duplication (after I created mine, of course!), your message promopted me to move up my plan of action. Yesterday, I merged, reorganized and added to the content of both pages to make a better single one -- the goal of Wikipedia.
Perhaps we need to chat about military history and some of its conventions more.
It's a pain to merge documents, and I find inconsistent choice among technically correct but rarely used titles and natural language variants as entry points makes it difficult to properly search for potential duplicates. For instance, a search on "Yeomen Warders of the Tower" yields nothing, while that on "Beefeaters" leads to a redirect to Yeomen Warders.
Still, thanks for the compliment on the merge job, especially since the other article was written by the Public Affairs Officer of the regiment in question.
Can I have "alternately" back on the Perl page?
I think the meaning fits better.
Also, I prefer the simpler sound.
From www.m-w.com:
Main Entry: 1 al·ter·nate
Function: adjective
4 : constituting an alternative <took the alternate route home>
Main Entry: 1 al·ter·na·tive
Function: adjective
2 : offering or expressing a choice <several alternative plans>
Yeah, OK. I guess the battle to keep separate meanings for the two words is lost. An alternate used to mean one of a group of equal choices that were switched through in turn. An alternative was secondary choice used when the first choice was not available. Indefatigable 20:24, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Actually, that's just the distinction that I was thinking of when I chose "alternate". Compiling the interperter to a link library isn't a secondary choice, used when an executable can't be created. Libraries and executables are equal choices (used, of course, for different purposes).
All in all, a pretty good edit of this article. The only thing I might suggest is that, as per Wiki guidelines, when British or American spellings are used, it is not necessary to revert one to the other. I prefer "cooperate" and "practice", which were the original spellings. However, these are minor points in the face of a thorough edit, and I will not complain. Thanks for your work! (BTW, I get from the edits that you are an Albertan. Yes?)Denni☯ 04:01, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)
sports franchises
You made Baltimore Stallions into a redirect to Montreal Alouettes. This is a decision I fully support. I think it is the correct protocol for MLB teams. There is currently a debate raging at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Montréal Expos, and so far the redirect solution is losing. I think it is because some of the users don't fully understand how franchises work in MLB. If you have the time, maybe you could chime in on the conversation there. Kingturtle 04:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I reverted a very strange edit of yours on Jam (TV series). Please make sure your browser is functioning correctly. Kelly Martin 20:50, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
I notice you've moved Regimental Sergeant Major to Regimental sergeant major. It may be a good idea to discuss moves like this first, since it's normal on Wikipedia to capitalise all words of rank titles and these articles are often heavily linked. For consistency's sake, there are a number of other two or three word rank titles that should be renamed if this is renamed, and it's going to upset a lot of people if you start doing it. -- Necrothesp21:25, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I actually agree with you, but I've had too many people go through my military articles zealously changing the first letters of all the ranks to upper case! Now I just give in to it. -- Necrothesp22:04, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! I apologise if, as a zombie of sorts, I erroneously expanded on the Blue Ensign flags added by another user recently. Mea culpa! This begs the question, though: why were they recently added to those provincial articles in the first place? Anyhow, thanks! E Pluribus Anthony16:17, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Good question. In the first half of the 20th century, such flags often appeared in charts of "all the world's flags", but the Canadian provincial flags were just fantasies of the artists who drew the charts, and then copied by other artists putting together similar charts. They never existed in real life.
Re recent changes to de facto head of state: While the office can depending on context be written as Governor General or governor general, it can never be written as Governor general. If it appears at the start of the sentence, producing a capital for the first word, the second word is always capitalised. Half capitalisation for the post is an elementary capitalisation error. Also whomever is grammatically correct. Whoever is a version which is generally used in American English but regarded as semi-literate in other forms of English. FearÉIREANN\(caint)22:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
According to the DAA website, the DAA is a privately-owned company that provides automotive services under its own name and branded under other companies' names. It is not a part of the CAA, which is a not-for-profit. Ground Zero | t20:26, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, thanks for the correction. I think the source of my confusion was that DAA has not operated in the West for a long time, so I was familiar with DAA only from seeing old stickers on old cars. That plus the similarity of the DAA and CAA logos led me to believe there had been a name change in the 1960s/1970s. Isn't there a quotation like, "It's not the things we don't know that hurt us, it's the things we know that aren't so"? Indefatigable21:47, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Another HMS Indefatigable
Try this one, much more fortunate than the Jutland ship and sailed by Horatio Hornblower, a major hero of TV and books. Actually I had two direct ancestors and a colateral relation aboard her during her most famous action in 1795, so your name caught my attention. Dabbler19:40, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikimedia Canada
Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--DarkEvil17:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you move the page without suggesting a move first in the page's talk page? Chris Benoît might be his given name, but it's common practice to use ring names to name wrestler pages for wrestlers who have established ring names, and his is certainly Chris Benoit, and has been for well over ten years. Would you be so kind and change it back?
↪Lakes(Talk)16:56, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, thanks for catching that railway, I just went back and reread my source. I got it confused because Donald Alexander Smith; the towns namesake was head of the CPR railway. --Cloveious04:40, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Buildings and structures in Saskatchewan
I note that you have added Holy Rosary Cathedral (Regina) to this list. I alas don't know how to negotiate the making and editing of lists, but the article on St Paul's Cathedral (Regina) antedates the Holy Rosary article and is considerably more ample. Would you mind adding it also? Thanks. Masalai10:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And since you are clearly considerably more expert than I in these things, how would I go about correcting the title of the article "Saskatchewan Legislature Building" to "Saskatchewan Legislative Building"? Masalai10:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not quite sure how you justified reverting my edits as vandalism. First, anemone links to the article on the plant. Second, it is important to note that shortgrass prairie does not exist west of Edmonton - it is not until you drive east that you run into it. Surely, as an Edmontonian, you must be aware of that. Finally, while clover grows in ditches everywhere, it does not grow on the roadways. Can you imagine the chaos which would ensue if suddenly the Yellowhead were covered with clover? I have rolled back your edit. Denni☯18:24, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
XHTML <sub> and <sup>
Indefatigable, thanks for the information you provided on the XHTML talk page. I’m not that familiar with French and that was more information on French abbreviations than I’ve seen before. I was wondering if there’s any rules behind the superscript letters. For example, how does one know the Établ<usp>ts has only the last two superscript while Mlle has all but the first? Or does this just require a dictionary lookup (or previous knowledge)? Just curious. BTW, from the looks of your user contributions, you look like youre] a native of Montral. I’m from Chicago, but I just ahppen to be traveling through Montreal today. --Cplot04:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that information. I’ve been wondering about that since I read the W3C description of <sub> and <sup>. I figured French would have some hard and fast rules for it. And I’ll definitely check out the smoked meat sandwich while I’m here. Thanks for the tip. --Cplot17:53, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Party of Alberta was briefly referred to in the Toronto Star, about a week ago. They also now appear on the first page of Google results for "Party of Alberta." Maybe they now are noteable enough for an article? Knave08:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Untagged image
An image you uploaded, Image:S-Sask-Reg-badge.jpg, was tagged with the {{coatofarms}} copyright tag. This tag was deleted because it does not actually specify the copyright status of the image. The image may need a more accurate copyright tag, or it may need to be deleted. If the image portrays a seal or emblem, it should be tagged as {{seal}}. If you have any questions, ask them at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. -- 15:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Montreal vs. Montréal
I understand that, but this is a little silly. Even the Alouette jerseys show Montréal. Does that now not make it a name...therefore changing the name Montreal from a city name (then the english renaming would be applicable) to a team name (making renaming it not applicable)? What did Wikipedia call the Nordiques?
Thanks for the work though. Just trying to figure out what the justification is. I read that article and if those are the rules, I understand it but don't agree with it. When speaking of the 'city' Montreal then I feel it is fine if people really feel a need to change it without the accents just like if someone was talking casually about Motley Crue... then accents are dropped. But is Wikipedia not aiming for more 'formal' styled writing? If that is the case, Montréal is more appropriate as per the Canadian Press style guide which Wikipedia seems to try to ask its writers to follow.
Like you, my personal preference is to spell it "Montréal", but I can understand both sides of the debate, and uniformity I think is the bigger issue. You also have a point regarding when the word is part of a longer proper name, such as "Société de transport de Montréal"; these definitely must have the accent. However, when translating names of North American sports teams, the "city" and "nickname" parts seem to be rather loosely connected, with the city being translated but not the nickname. If the French media can write "Flyers de Philadelphie" instead of Philadelphia Flyers, we in English should be able to write Montreal Alouettes instead of Alouettes de Montréal. Indefatigable04:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article UBC Thunderbirds, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Oo756506:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi; you seem to be the person who started this page, so I'm popping by to find a cite for this usage, i.e. is it HBC, British imperial term, etc and in what year was it first used; most of this area was not even on maps until the early 1800s; see my notes on North-West Territory about the relevant treaties re Russia and Spain as to its western boundary); mostly I'm interested in what year it started being used in, and if pre-1859 it was what the HBC called the area; part of it, at least, was the MacKenzie District of the HBC, I know that; but were they even in the Yukon in the early 1800s? I'll be writing some history on events in what became the Stickeen Terrtory for that article, at some point, so will save historical materials on that area for that article as opposed to here (maybe a "Main" template when the time comes). Oh - and, again, what's the source for this usage? I've rarely seen it in BC-based histories; there's also a stylistic rule thingie going on to consider, is that in the 19th Century Northwest Territories was often spelled in the hyphenated form used here...although in the plural rather than the singular, I guess.Skookum100:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Indefatigable. I noticed that you reverted my clumsy addition to the article on the pound. It was bound to happen anytime, but I found it strange that who did it was a Canadian, namely, a civilized human being, not a gringo (in fact, in my opinion the word gringo is not a derogatory term, to me it just means a native of the land between Canada and Mexico). I had written:
My first reaction was to think: "Oh, yeah? Name one!". But that'd be a gut, primitive reaction. You see, I tend to turn into a primitive beast when it comes to the English System of Measures. All my life I have fiercely and heroically resisted attempts from gringos, Spanglish speakers (which I despise as ignorants in both the English and Spanish languages), and University Professors who studied in the U.S., to force me to adapt to, and to use that troglodyte system of units. As you probably are well aware, the English System lacks the rigor and elegance of the Metric System, now enhanced and justly named The International System of Units.
Examples: I'm quite sure that many, if not all of the failures of the U.S. space program, ever since the first Atlas rockets that blew up, up the the tragedy of the Columbia Space Shuttle, had their origin, or more precisely, their culprit, in some obscure contractors still working in those yecchy, awkward units such as pounds, feet, degrees fahrenheit, psi's, btu's, quarts, pints, gallons, ounces, etc. - all of which have nothing to do with Science (I flatly refuse to use capital letters to name them). There lies the only fault I've found in that seminal, gigantic Sci-Fi movie "2001 - A Space Odissey" by Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick - they dare tu use miles whey they speak about distances! Preposterous!
I wonder when all of Humankind will have the fortunate occassion to celebrate and welcome the U.S.A. into the civilized world? -- the same day when that admirable nation finally embraces a decent system of units, forever and ever.
Now, please, could you name those countries where you say the stupid pound is still commonly used? (shame on them!) :)
Please don't take my edit as a personal endorsement of the use of pounds -- I agree with everything you have written above, and I would like to see the pound relegated to the scrap heap of history. However, the pound is still legal for trade in Canada, where you see it prominently used in the produce and meat sections of every grocery store. Canadians seldom know their own weight in kilograms -- pounds are the preferred unit. In the United Kingdom and in Ireland, people give their weights in a combination of stones and pounds. I'm not so sure about the situation in Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, but I suspect that pounds are not 100% obsolete in those countries either. Indefatigable12:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Re: Canadien
Thanks for the French lesson, but I do know about noun capitalisation but just missed it in the article. My apologies for the incorrect edit, I've added a French language tag to the text so that AWB knows that those words are in French not English. Thanks Rjwilmsi08:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Indefatigable, I see that you are an expert on all things Canadian and that you previously removed some claims about the revival of the Northern Canadian Railway from that article. Do you know whether the Canadian Simon de Rothschild / Baron Rothschild actually exists? Please pardon my ignorance. I've just gotten fascinated with the various conflicting claims made about this figure in Wikipedia. Llajwa22:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
pls see discussion there about "whether or not"; it's not common usage; nationally official, perhaps, also used officially without, at least by the provincial regime (and it dates to pre-Confederation times of course). Anyway, no dispute so much as discussion; my gut tells me without, Wiki rulebooks might dictate otherwise, i.e. as it's in one or certain particular database(s) that way, despite conflicting examples in others. Your intput/comment desired.Skookum1 (talk) 08:21, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
TELUS Corporation
I've noticed edits you've made over the last couple of days to articles on my watchlist, changing TELUS references to Telus. The edit note you've added references the MOS language on trademarks - that they should follow standard grammatical conventions on capitalization.
While I understand that, I suspect that many of these references aren't to the TELUS trademark, but rather to the company's legal name, which is TELUS Corporation. I can't find anything in the MOS about this, but I'd have to believe that style should dictate that using a company's legal name would be appropriate, wouldn't it?
I think the policy applies equally to a corporation's name, which is almost automatically a trademark if I understand the concept correctly. After all, if you tried to incorporate an entity called "Telus Corporation" and claim it was a distinct name from "TELUS Corporation", the name would be rejected. I'm pretty sure that the worlds' governments don't consider upper/lowercase enough of a difference to make a difference. So under that reasoning, both "TELUS Corporation" and "Telus Corporation" are its "legal" name. Indefatigable (talk) 23:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Indefatigable. Can you tell me why you deleted: The Nisga'a story of the destruction, Canada's worst known geophysical disaster. sentence on the Tseax Cone article? I have restored the deleted info because it appears to be a true fact per the website here. Black Tusk22:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dieu et mon droit seems not to be followed by too many editors, so I am coming to you about an issue due to your activity at Talk:Royal coat of arms of the United Kingdom. I have been reverting edits by Stephen2nd at Dieu et mon droit. His first presented a barely intelligible argument positing that the motto originated with oath-swearing ceremonies in English courts. As proof, he presented irrelevant quotations. His second major edit was an irrelevant (and incomplete) history of dragon supporters in the English arms.
I see this turning into, if not an edit war, at least some kind of conflict. For that reason, I would appreciate your double checking my reverts (as you have more Wikipedia experience) and, if I'm in the right, watching the article and perhaps giving Stephen2nd constructive advice.
Hi Indefatigable. I've notified Rrius of my intention to re-edit Dieu et mon droit. With reference "constructive advice", I have now quoted REFERENCES on it's Talk page, are these acceptable to your stated criteria? Regards..Stephen2nd (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Battle of Vimy Ridge is currently under peer review in an effort to get it to A or FA quality. The article has greatly improved over the pas few months but still needs work. I am sending out a notice to individuals who have contributed on the talk page to help with a copy-edit. Fresh eyes are always helpful. All the best. Labattblueboy (talk) 15:06, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heya, I've noticed you've been contributing to articles similar to mine, i.e. related to activist/anarchist people. My article on Bruno Masse is threatened of deletion, could you please vote to keep it? You can vote [| here]. In solidarity! Lkeryl (talk) 18:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Field goal
Hello. I liked your edits to the Field goal (football) article. I'm not that familiar with the American rules so I thought I'd ask if the elements of a deeper end zone and uprights on the goal line make missed field goal returns more common as well and, if so, you'd consider including it. DoubleBlue (talk)01:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I don't watch a lot of American football either, so I sometimes forget they have the posts on the dead line instead of the goal line. With the posts there, only attempts that are "short" can potentially be returned, while with the posts on the goal line attempts that are "wide" or "short" can be returned. Indefatigable (talk) 18:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
List of infantry battalions in the Canadian Expeditionary Force
What's this all about? You've gone through and altered the names of many of the battalions, in some cases incorrectly renaming them. For example, how do you explain the 86th Battalion (Royal Hamilton Light Infantry), CEF when the RHLI was still known as the 13th Royal Regiment during the war??? The 86th was always referred to as the Machine Gun Battalion. Also, I've never seen the 205th referred to as the 205th (Hamilton) Battalion in all of the years that I've been researching this unit. Kscheffler (talk) 21:15, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Mt Slesse crash, 1956
Saw your change to which sports team was on the casualty list; see Talk:Trans-Canada_Air_Lines_Flight_810#Blue_Bombers_were_on_the_plane..... The CFL may not have been formed until '58, but all reports I've ever seen talk about a football team from Winnipeg, namely the Blue Bombers, and that many of the people on the plane were fans who flew west for the game...my uncle was a supporter, being from Winnipeg, though living in Calgary, where he was bound back to on that flight....Skookum1 (talk) 19:24, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Re this edit, the problem I have with a result, though I understand why you made it, is that it gives the mis-impression that the Pacific Northwest was a "national interest" of the Canadian colony, which is only true indirectly, i.e. it gives the impression that this was part of Canada, which it was not (until 1871).Skookum1 (talk) 18:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I see you noticed my, er... attempts... at giving a noun a Candian provincial adjective. Admittedly, some of them didn't sound right; but, then, nothing seemed correct. "Quebecian Crown", for instance, sounded entirely foreign, yet, it also appeared incorrectly inconsistent to use the right sounding "Albertan Crown" in one place and just "Quebec Crown" in another. Is it indeed correct to use the "ian" or "an" suffix only when the proper noun ends in a vowel; otherwise, there's no suffix at all? I.e. it's "British Columbian", "Albertan", "Saskatchewan", "Manitoban", "Ontarian", "Quebec", "New Brunswick", "Nova Scotian", "Prince Edward Island", and "Newfoundland and Labrador". But then, "Newfoundland and Labradorian" looks perfectly acceptable.
I'm embarassed that need to ask this question! --ĦMIESIANIACAL
To me, none of those adjectives sounds right when placed before a noun. It seems to be a quirk of North American English that the "adjective" forms of provinces and states are used only as nouns, as a name for a resident of the province. The plain form of the name is used when it modifies another noun. "Albertan government", "Albertan premier", "Albertan weather" all sound wrong. Everybody says "Alberta government", "Alberta premier", "Alberta weather", etc. The table at List of adjectival and demonymic forms of place names#Canadian provinces and territories (which I did not contribute to) supports this notion too. Indefatigable (talk) 19:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Jacques Goulet
You recently used AWB to make changes to Jacques Goulet. In so doing, you erroneously removed diacritic marks from several words and also changed Québec to Canada in several places, rendering the article historically inaccurate. This may have been an anomaly created by AWB or some other oversight. I have reverted the article to its previous correct state. If you disagree with this, please be so kind as to discuss it before changing the article again.UMBRIS18:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Your edits were generally acceptable catches of errors, including one of mine. However, some of your work was in error. Please discuss or at least warn about edits in the talk pages. They are being watched for comment. I know I forgot to put "The Godfather" in quotation marks; but you removed a quotation mark that was necessary, etc. Best not to belabor the point here. Thank you, and let me extend a welcome to the article. Djathinkimacowboy23:20, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there, I've been watching Uloqsaq for a while and noticed that you changed 'Royal North-West Mounted Police' to 'Royal Northwest Mounted Police'. I checked your contribs and saw that on other pages you've been changing 'Royal Northwest Mounted Police' to 'Royal North-West Mounted Police'. As you can see from the linked page, the hyphenated version is correct, and was just wondering why you've been changing these. For example, here you changed the spelling to Northwest (which, by the way, is incorrect), but here you changed the spelling to North-West.
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